Episode 19 - The Ricker Is Back With a Music Episode And More!

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Speaker 2 (00:11):
from our humble backyard studio.
This is the almost famous radiopodcast with your host jeffy
mcjefferson.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Let's go, and welcome to the Almost Famous Radio

(00:41):
Podcast.
Jeffy McJefferson, here, alongwith little Rick App.
Hey, what's up, man?
You see it.
Yeah, of course we go aroundthe table.
We'll go across the table today.
Right, what do you got?

Speaker 2 (00:56):
I have a Ninkasi Red IPA.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
Yeah, interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
You're going to have one by the end of this.
It's really good, probablyafter one by the end of this.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
It's really good, probably after this, because I
got bodys off.
Uh, yeah, you know what I lovethat stuff.
Anyway, yeah, go ahead andexplain, um, what we're, what
you were talking about, man,because what happened to you
last weekend ah well, it wasopening weekend, deer season and
ders, we were out and I managedto catch nothing but poison oak

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.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
So it's really cool.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Yeah, poor Rickerman, his arms are all jacked and he
got it in his eye.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yeah, it's not good.
But hopefully I'll get takencare of this week.
And it's not, you know, it'sreally funny, it comes and goes.
How irritating it is.
Yeah, yeah, sometimes it's likefunny it comes and goes how
irritating it is.
Yeah, yeah.
Sometimes it's like you don'teven notice it, even though
you're covered in it yeah.
Then other times it's like Iwant to scratch the shit out
every piece of skin I got.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Yeah, are you giving out Halloween candy this year?
I'm saying use it to youradvantage here.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah, I may or may not, I don't know.
I usually do, but I always endup it's like I don't know the
kids.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
They just don't come through the neighborhood, like I
don't think it's as big of adeal as it used to be for us
well, I'm the same, because we,we, you know, red goes,
couponing and all that kind ofjazz and and she's got like a
bunch of Halloween candy thatshe gets for next to nothing, of
course, of course, and we neverget kids hardly here.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, I mean it's kind of funny.
I'm great with you know, I'mfine with the little kids coming
through, but you know, when itgets towards 9 o'clock and it
gets to be teenagers withpillowcases and you know.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Well, 9 o'clock, that's way past.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
It's like, yeah, I'm done, you guys go buy your own
candy.
What?

Speaker 3 (02:58):
does it even fall on this year?
I didn't even look to see whatday it fell on.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
It's probably going to be like a Tuesday, Wednesday.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
So it's a weekday yeah, I think so Might even be
Thursday and plus you know whatthose truck or treat things have
really taken over for kids andparents and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah, where you go to a place, and yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Because I mean, like you know, the myth of the razor
blades and the apples.
I know Lord knows where thatstarted.
You know, you've heard of that,you've heard it.
Oh sure, when I was a kid.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yeah, we all heard it , we were kids, man oh yeah, so
number one.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
it's like if somebody gives you an apple, it's like
fuck that.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah, it's not candy, I want the candy yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
You know.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
And number two I don't know where that razor
blade shit started, but it'slike, come on, well, you never
know, it may have had some kindof origin and truth, but how
long ago was this?

Speaker 3 (04:00):
And where was it at?
It was a long yeah, Because younever seen real reports of it,
I guess.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
I never heard one when I was a kid.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
You should Google it, because you got Google now.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
And.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
I never knew it.
Nobody in our neighborhood evengave out apples.
No, hell no.
And they gave out big candybars.
Then too.
They didn't have these littlebite-sized sons of bitches.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, yeah, and I remember it was either candy or
Do you remember those littlebooklets that the church would
give out?
It was like a picture book of aBible story.
Do you remember those gettingpassed out during Halloween?
No, I don't yeah, yeah, well,that's the one year difference

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between you and I.
It probably stopped right withme, maybe I don't yeah, yeah,
Well, that's the one yeardifference between you and I
probably stopped right with me.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Maybe I don't know it's just like but.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
That's what it was.
It was always wrap candy orthose.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
The wrap candy was that came in the orange and
black.
They're kind of like peanutbutterish or something.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
You know they were okay, but you know I could
always do without candy corn.
Yeah, I hate it.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Every once in a while it tastes okay, but it's like
so rarely.
It's so sweet it makes yourteeth, you know, slime over.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
And then you got like always got the good old sweet
tarts and uh, right, and thechico sticks, yep, and stuff
like that.
And then the candy bars andstuff.
Yeah, that was right.
But yeah, I guess they did havethe miniatures back then, but
they were all like hershey'sminiatures and right and uh, I
know, when I was a kid I didn'tlike the dark chocolate.

(05:44):
I love dark chocolate now, butback then I'm like I kid, I
didn't like the dark chocolate.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
I love dark chocolate now, but back then I felt
ripped off Right when you gotdark chocolate Instead of milk
chocolate.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Instead of milk chocolate, or like a crunch bar
or whatever they had in them,you know, in the almond thing or
whatever you know Good.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Bar, mr Good Bar, Mr Good Bar, yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yeah, we were talking at Cartwright today this is
totally off the Halloweensubject, but about you and I.
We like music.
In the words of Joe Dirtrockers through and through,
pretty much.
Yeah.
So we were talking aboutsuccessful singers with shitty

(06:24):
voices.
And so we were talking aboutsuccessful singers with shitty
voices, and we can start withyou.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
And first one you can start with, and then let's talk
about why I think that.
Well, it was actually yourswhen we were talking before, but
my number one's got gotta beSpringsteen.
Yeah, I mean, he just has tofollow it in the top spot.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
I don't understand it either.
I don't.
I don't understand, Sorry.
I don't understand theobsession with them.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
I don't know.
I don't know, maybe you know Imaybe they put on a really good
live show.
I don't know, I'd never gobecause I don't like the music
particularly at all.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
A couple songs, I don't mind A couple songs I
don't mind.
I hate the fact that they callBorn to Run a rock anthem, the
rock anthem of all.
Don't tell me what a rockanthem is.
It's not that yeah it isn't.
I hate the song.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yeah, I like the stuff like.
I like glory days and stufflike that, but nothing major I
can't really think of good.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeah yeah, it's not like you're going to go for a
drive just to listen to it.
If it comes on the radio andyou feel like it, you won't turn
it off.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
That's as close as you get to liking it right um
one of mine and we were like Isaid, we talked about it.
It's like bob dylan, absolutely.
The guy's voice is liketerrible yep, and he's like he's
I mean, he's iconic to peopleyeah I don't why I don't know I

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mean seriously, I I don't thinkI've heard any song of his that
he sings, right.
Okay, I had to clarify thatbecause we were talking about
hendrix and yeah along thewatchtower right but any song of
his.
And then he's got that goofymicrophone holder and then he

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plays harmonica.
He's got that goofy harmonicaholder and he plays harmonica
too.
Which harmonica drives me bats,does it really?
I don't even know.
Is there any good songs withharmonica?
Besides, I don't even know ifthat is Well Alvin and Chipmunks
.
He wanted a harmonica.
But I mean, come on, is thereany good harmonica songs?

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Oh my gosh, See, now I'm going to have to think about
that, and I don't Not really.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
Not really going to have to think about that and I
don't, uh, not really, notreally, not that I can think of.
Did piano man from billy joehave harmonica?
Was that a harmonica?
Yeah, I think it is I thinkthat may be the only tolerable
probably harmonica song.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah, I think that is .
I think that is a harmonica.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yeah, and so any harmonica song for me is out
Pretty much Thumbs down, waydown hugely down.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Yeah, okay, so we got Dylan and we got Bruce
Springsteen.
So it's back to me.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
We can just talk about any of the guys that we
talked about today, because Ithink we should.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Okay, well, neil Young.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Neil Young has a shitty voice.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yep, he might have been good in harmony with, you
know, crosby, stills, nash andYoung, but Again, as a solo act,
yikes.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
I can deal with Rockin' in the Free World.
I kind of like that song.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
The lyrics.
I really don't give a shitabout that much on that.
Usually I like songs because oflyrics, but I just kind of
think the song's kind of coolsounding it is.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
He's not a bad songwriter.
He's not a great songwriter,but he's not a bad songwriter.
He had some okay songs, butagain overrated and terrible
voice.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Thanks to Ronnie Van Zant calling his ass out.
Southern men don't need himaround anyhow.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Right yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Because they don't need him around.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
That's it, they don't .

Speaker 3 (10:44):
they don't need him around, that's it, he can fuck
off go back to canada go back tocanada or you know, do whatever
you need to do.
That's all.
That's all perfectly fine.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
We we kind of disagreed on david lee roth yeah
, I I know you liked him I likehim and I thought that he, uh,
he was a good complement to themusic, but he is not a great
singer, but he sounded good,like I said, the first three or
four albums that they put outthey were all good, they were

(11:17):
great.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
I liked them.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
And I was also talking about Sammy when he
joined the band.
I really liked Sammy when hejoined the band.
I really liked Sammy when hejoined the band.
I know that we kind of got alittle disappointed in Ed
because he wanted to do a lot ofkeyboards and shit.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Right.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
But he started that with David Lee Roth and, like I
said, jump.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
He did.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
That song Jump.
I couldn't stand it.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah, you know, yeah, well, you know, they jumped
right out of there at that pointbecause they sucked.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
And well, you know, they jumped right out of there
at that point because I sucked.
Well, you know I got to hand itto Roth because he was kind of
getting pissed off at it.
He wanted to keep you know rock, rock, solid songs, and right,
he didn't want to throwkeyboards in there.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
And they did.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
And they did.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
That's Ed's band.
So what the hell are you goingto do?

Speaker 2 (12:00):
You're going to fight him.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
No, no him no no, so then sammy came along and they
they did a few things withkeyboards and stuff like that
man, but at least you know itbrought another guitar into the
fold it did, it did and sothat's what I love about it too,
and plus I like sammy hagar, sothat helps yeah, and hagar's
got a a.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
I wouldn't say he had a great voice, but he's a
better singer than David LeeRoth, definitely.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah, I think that's pretty apparent.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Yeah, we went to that .

Speaker 3 (12:36):
We went to some shitty singers.
Well, even you said Hendrixwasn't a great singer no but
serviceable, serviceable yeah,and he, he did.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
okay, you know, he, um, that's like, that's like uh,
um, oh gosh, dang it uh.
Stevie rayughan, yeah, I mean,he was a good singer, but not a
great singer.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
He was a really good.
I thought he was really goodfor the style of music.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
His voice was very complimentary of that type of
blues music.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
It's funny because I was talking, I was about to
leave Cartwright's you had leftbefore and Caroline and Krista
was there and I didn't mentionthis and I said most successful
singer with a shitty voice andthe first thing that popped up
in her was Janis Joplin.
Oh, so she, Krista, that washer first one, right?

Speaker 2 (13:39):
up her head, yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
And I agreed with her totally.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah, and I agreed with her totally.
Yeah, I, it was a screeching,not one song of hers I like None
.
I can tolerate them, but it'snot something I'd seek out.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Absolutely not.
No, I would, I would justassume, go through a root canal
or something like that, notworth throwing stones at.
Oh hell no.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
As you like to say, I can't stand it.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
Yeah, and, like I said, ian Anderson from Jethro
Tull, I can't stand Jethro Tull.
And then I thought his, I thinkhis voice it's just Aqualon.
Yeah, you know like, come on,and what the fuck is an Aqualung
?
I?
And then every song, a lot ofsongs that he'd come up with
after that.
You know he brought up Aqualungin the lyrics.

(14:33):
Right, I'm like okay, whateverthe hell that is, I probably
should look it up.
A lot of people probably gonnaknow, oh, come, come on, dumbass
.
You don't know what aqualung is, but I know it's a song I know
those songs sucks, and I knowthat he freaking kept bringing
up aqualung.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
After that I'm like that's terrible, terrible,
terrible stuff.
Yeah, I don't have the hatredfor it that you do, but again
another, another band that Iwould seek out very much hatred
yeah, well you know, because itit just sucks.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
And who else are we talking about?

Speaker 2 (15:08):
gosh dang.
Uh, well, I thought we startedtalking about singers that were
underrated.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Well, we did that, but I I'm sure I'm missing some
yeah, because I, I because Ididn't think Plant was good and
you thought Plant was all right.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yeah, I think he was pretty decent.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
You know, and stuff like that.
I don't like his voice.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
His voice ain't great , but he's yeah, but again
there's one of those thingswhere it's like could you put
anybody else singing those songs?
Can you think of anybody who'ddo it better?

Speaker 3 (15:45):
I don't know.
And see, I love Ozzy, I lovehis music, but I think his voice
stinks.
Yeah, you know.
Yeah, I just don't you know.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Great songs.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Great songs.
Some freaking great albums.
And of course he's got, youcourse, as we said before, a lot
of compliments, complimentaryto the style of music that they
did, things like that, butvoice-wise not so much.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
And then we had some trouble thinking of successful
singers with great voices in therock side.
Or even on you.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
You know we have mentioned a couple of other ones
, but yeah, I mean uh, oh,another shitty one real quick,
willie nelson, yeah yeah, nodoubt terrible yeah yeah,
absolutely.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
I really don't even like a song, I don't know, I
don't know.
A willie song I like on theroad again makes me want to kick
somebody in the teeth was it?

Speaker 2 (16:45):
it wasn't.
Uh, you were always on my mind,and that one is you know, I
guess that was tolerable I thinkI not not by him, but you know
there were other people thatsang it that right okay, pretty
deep you know yeah it was okayit's kind of really good.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
It's kind of a good song right so I'll go ahead, and
I'll go ahead and give him alittle bit of props for that,
even though that yeah yeah, he's, but he quit smoking weed, so
that's a yeah, what an idiot.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Because what is he like?

Speaker 3 (17:14):
what?
What I mean because, like whatis he?
I know I'm not proponent, youknow a proponent of weed smoking
, but he's like what,90-some-odd years old, yeah, and
he drank and he smoked pot andhe did all this other shit and
then he lived until he wasliving into his 90s and then he
stopped.
I mean, I'm just waiting forhim to croak over just because

(17:36):
of the fact Right, because, yeah, the detox kills him.
I mean, what do you got to losenow?
I mean, you're living onborrowed time anyway.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
I mean, hell, this guy's like okay, so I'm going to
stop smoking.
Yeah, I don't believe it onebit anyway.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yeah, I don't know, I don't think so, I don't think
so I just have a hard timebelieving that.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
You know he stopped smoking weed.
Yeah, I believe, like SethRogen.
If he said it I'd definitelycall him a liar Right?
I think that Willie Nelsonsaying it is just as much of a
liar as Seth Rogen, even thoughSeth Rogen didn't say it.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
But I'm just saying Right, if he would have said it,
you would have called bullshiton it right there.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
Absolutely, I'd call him bullshit.
Totally bullshit singing right.
If he would have said it, youwould have said called bullshit
on it right there, totallybullshit.
So on on.
On the other hand, thesuccessful singers ahead great
voices, either rock or even someof the country stuff uh, we had
a few, yeah, I uh, we had aharder time thinking yeah, it's
not an easy one.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
You said tommy shaw and I think that's probably.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
I'd say tommy shaw was probably up there and
possibly underrated too I thinkunderrated because dennis young
got most of the most of the pubon that right but and I didn't
think dennis young was thatgreat, but but he could sing
pretty good.
Yeah, I like Styx.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah, they were fine.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
Oh, you know what Singers, successful singers and
this is one we didn't mentionand I'll bring it out right now
Ann and Nancy Wilson, from Heart.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
And also, I think, lindsey Buckingham and stevie
nicks and christine mcvee fromfleetwood.
I don't think that they're.
They had any flaws in theirvoices and they were all totally
different and it worked.
Yeah, you know yeah so that wasone that just just now popped

(19:40):
in my mind yeah, those are.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Yeah, those are good ones, those are good ones.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
Because I like Fleetwood.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Mac, yeah, yeah, I mean literally.
You know how many times hasRumor's been said as the
greatest rock album ever.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
I totally will.
You know what I talked aboutthat with Ron in the very first
podcast, I think Did you.
You know what I talked aboutthat with Ron in the very first
podcast, I think Did you, and wewere talking about the best
album, the perfect album, right,and to me that was the perfect
album.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
I don't see there's no flaws in that album, right,
especially since they were allbreaking up, right.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
And it's just flat brutal the way the songs were.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
Yeah, all freaking digs at each other.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yeah, they're, they're like totally and yet
they came together and stillmade the music right.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
It's like okay yeah, and then even went on tour and
stuff like that and they'repromoting the record and then
and and stuff like that and then.
But it was, it was extremelybrutal, yeah, what they did.
And then they ended up puttingout one of the best albums
probably ever yeah way betterthan any beatles album uh, yeah,

(20:51):
yeah, I'd say so because I'mI'm not a beatles fan.
I think some of their stuff isokay, but it's a little too
bubble gum for me.
A lot of it and then and thenthe rest of it's like stupid
hallucination yeah, psychedelichorror shit yeah yeah, and so I
am, and I I don't get it.
Maybe you could help me out onthis.
But everybody was like, okay,the beatles were my inspiration

(21:15):
to start being a musician and Ilike why the only person I can
think of with the Beatles thatwould inspire me was George
Harrison, because I think he's abadass.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Yeah, yeah, he was.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
But McCartney and Lennon I just didn't think were
badasses.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
No, but they did have you know some of their music
was pretty decent.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
They could write songs.
I mean, I get that, yeah.
But when they went out on theirown a couple of lennon songs, I
I thought was okay, not theones.
Everybody's thinking that.
Imagine song I hate it, right.
Um, um, that strange daysindeed.
Song I like it, yeah, I don'teven know.

(21:58):
That's really in the title ofthat song I don't, I don't know,
paul.
Mccartney.
There's not much I really like.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
No, no, not a single thing.
I don't like any of the Wingsmusic.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
I don't either, sorry .

Speaker 3 (22:11):
And then both of them have wives that were
interjecting and everything, andthey both couldn't sing worth a
lick, Right?
So screw that.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yeah, and like you said, george harris, not well,
you got to give props to ringoringo is kind of good ringo's
kind of singer.
But no, but I mean as far assomebody who takes the place of
somebody and rides it for allit's worth and has been in a lot
of good bands yeah I mean, hewas in uh traveling wilburys
right was he I think, so Ithought it was him, wasn't it

(22:46):
him?

Speaker 3 (22:47):
orbison tom petty I thought it was.
It was george harrison, tompetty, jeff lynn of yellow and
let's say, orbison already yeahyeah, okay, oh okay.
Oh yeah, tom Petty, I don'tthink Ringo was in that.
He might have played drums onit, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Okay, I thought he was in one of those combination
bands.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
I actually kind of like some of the Wilburys' music
.
Yeah, I do too.
There's another one, tom Petty.
We love Tom Petty yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Not a great, not a great voice.
His songs were phenomenal yeah,to me, and you too.
We were talking about yeah,yeah, he, he not, not the, not a
great singer, but uh boy, againit musically good songs.
Yeah, put out, put out a lot ofgood songs good songs, man.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
Yeah, yeah.
So he was good.
We like he said, we said steveperry from journey.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
Steve Perry from Journey, definitely a great
voice.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
Not a big Journey fan .

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Nope.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
It's okay.
I mean it's for your highschool chicks and all that kind
of stuff, but Neil Sean couldplay yeah.
You know, and I guess JonathanCain was the keyboard player.
I guess he got together withRobert Palmer and they had that

(24:07):
damn, what was that group thatthey freaking put together?
God dang it.
It's like slipping my mindright now I don't even have my
phone to check it, but they hadsome cool songs.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Yeah yeah okay, but they had some cool songs.
Yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
I sure wish I could remember the name of that band.
I can't believe I don't.
It's just slipping my mind.
It sucks.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yeah, I can't think either.
I know who you're talking about.
I can't remember.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
Power Station, that's what it's called.
Yeah, power Station.
Yeah, they were kind of a coollittle.
A lot of those bands kind ofstarted forming together, you
know like that in the 80s andstuff like that, from other
bands like Damn Yankees, damnYankees.
I really liked that band.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
That's Tommy Sean's head Yep.
And Jack Blades, and JackBlades, yep.
And then I liked, I reallyliked Asia, who was like yes,
and some other.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yeah, who was in that ?

Speaker 3 (25:10):
Good question, but I really.
They only put out like I think,two albums, maybe three.
But I loved Asia.
A lot of people make fun of it.
They make fun of it in the40-year-old version because he
had that Asia poster in theframe.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Oh, no way yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
But I like the band.
Honestly, I played the crap outof that record.
Yeah yeah, it was kind of cool.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Another good one that we were talking about, and this
may be more on me than anyanybody, but I think that scott
wyland had a good voice.
I thought he did too I thoughthe he had a good range and he
could.
He could sing a lot ofdifferent types of music.
Yeah, the bullhorn kind ofthrew people well, yeah, you

(25:57):
know, but well it was just hisstick, justick.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
That was just him.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah, he was a weirdo .

Speaker 3 (26:03):
Yeah, he was, yeah, and, like I was telling you,
jeff Tate, I thought, and Brockwas the best voice ever, I think
, from Queensryche.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
And I think his range is just incredible.
Just even on Silent the City hewas like listen to Silent the
City, you can hear his fullrange, yeah yeah.
Silent lucidity was like justlisten to silent city, you can
hear his full range, yeah yeah.
And it's like, oh, you know whohad?
Okay, we didn't talk about him,but who had, who had a?
Really he had a really goodvoice and really unique voice to
me was paul rogers from badcompany I, you know when you,

(26:35):
when you said something aboutwhat's his name from the babies
john wait john.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Wait, that's, that's who I was going to say.
At the same time, it's like,yeah, paul Rogers.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
And he's another one who floated between groups.
After bad company he was insome band with a bunch of other.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
Yeah, did they do a collab band or something?
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
I can't remember what it was Gosh lab band, or
something.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
Yeah, I can't remember what it was.
Gosh dang it.
I can't either.
This really sucks.
You get over 60 and yourfreaking memory goes.
Yeah, it's like it does suck,you know, because you know that
I forgot what band he that hethat he did, but but I really
liked his voice and uh, well,actually you know talking about
damn yankees.
I went to the damn Yankeesconcert um Oklahoma and bad
company opened up for him, butit was like the other non Paul

(27:29):
Rogers.
Paul Rogers.
The guy could sing.
He had a high range voice, butthen that was.
That was the eighties for you.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
And then not you.
Was it the 90s?
No, it was the 80s.
But yeah, he had that big rangeof voice and stuff like that,
like all the hair bands andstuff had, because you had to
sing high, like Sebastian Bach,who was a great voice.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
And stuff like that.
So you really had to have ahigh range voice to even thrive
in the 80s hair band scene.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Yeah, like.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
I was saying, except for Bret Michaels, he didn't
have to have a high voice.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
If you remember Poison's songs, they're not like
one of those high SebastianBach type voice deals.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Okay, yeah, okay, yeah, gosh, dang it.
I was just thinking of somebody.
Yeah, I can't remember.
I'll, I'll remember in a second, I'm sure.
Um, yeah, there, you know, it'salmost as hard, you know what
it is is.
Sometimes you can't remember.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
Well, I threw a lot of great ones before we did
shitty ones right there.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah yeah.
Sometimes you kind of forgetwho really had good range and
who didn't.
Gosh dang.
There's so many bands out therethat you could talk about that,

(29:06):
had you know singers that wereeither good or really not good
yeah, because, like we'retalking about paul stanley from
kiss, he was kind of a mid guy.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
He wasn't great, he didn't suck, but he was, he was
okay, he had, yeah, decent voice, right, you know.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
And stuff and getty lee, and you know, getty lee not
a great voice, but uh like.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
Perfect for the music bands yeah, so yeah but yeah, I
mean and and new stuff.
I don't really, you know, Idon't really, I can't really.
None that comes to mind are thenewer stuff, or at least not
newer stuff, but I mean even inthe 90s rock and that comes to
mind, or the newer stuff thatare at least not newer stuff,
but I mean even in the ninetiesrock and stuff like that, and

(29:46):
then the newer stuff.
I really can't think of a wholelot.
That blew my mind, cause I, youknow I like food fighters, but
you know girls voices Okay.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Yeah, yeah.
And like you were saying, youknow, kurt Cobain was never
going to win awards for vocalrange.
Not going to happen.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
I didn't think his voice was very good, but it was
perfect for that, yeah, perfectfor that deal that you know, the
game changer of music, yeah, ofwhat they did was pretty
incredible because coming off ofthe hair bands and stuff like
that, and they just said, fuckyou, yeah, we're going grunge,
we're going garage, we're goingto do this stuff and come out

(30:27):
with it and people ate it up.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Yeah, Lane didn't have a great voice.
He had a good voice and he hada decent range, but he didn't
have a great voice, but it wasperfect for the music.
Yeah, axl rose was pretty goodaxl rose was pretty good, yeah,
yeah they helped out.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
They helped usher out the hair bands as well they did
.
They were kind of that bridgebetween the two yeah, they just
did you listen to a lot of hairbands, I think oh yeah of course
, because that was rock thenRight, that's all you got.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
That's all it was.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
It was all metal hair bands, metal hair bands, yeah
Rat.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Poison and freaking Cinderella Right Freaking.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
Y&T.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Y&T.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
Wasp, and then you got crap like Europe.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
Yeah, I couldn't do that.
That was terrible.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
Who was in Night?

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Ranger.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
And that.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
Jack Blades was in Night Ranger.
Yeah yeah, they were prettydecent.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
They were too bad.
I liked Night Ranger yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Yeah, but they were one of those you know 80s hair
bands kind of.
I guess they were kind of oneof those.
They were in Branson when wewere there but we didn't get
tickets to go see him.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
Yeah, you just wonder after, but they were like man a
concert tickets suck yeahNowadays.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah, they're way expensive.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Yeah and uh, cause I had like this kind of a but it's
kind of a festival-ish typething and they had a lot of
bands you had to pay a shitloadof money and Night Ranger was in
one of those.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Yeah, you know my days of going to a concert that
last more than two and a halfhours.
No, no, I couldn't do it.
You know the idea of anall-weekend freaking music
festival.
Yeah, I can listen to music inmy car.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
Yeah, I'd like to go see bands.
I love live music, but I justthere's nothing out there right
now that I would pay to see.
No, I mean, you could go seepeople at brit for not too bad
of a price, right, um, but theyhave to be decent.
I don't know who would.
Who you would go see every timeI look, you know, because brit
publishes their lineup for theyear like in the spring yeah and

(32:51):
every time I look it's like Idon't know any of these people
yeah, and then I mean zz top wasout there and and I know this
is going to be sacrilegious topeople, but I can't stand ZZ Top
.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Really I don't.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
No, I don't.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
No see, there's a good one.
I think that Billy Gibbons'singing voice is less than
stellar.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
Less than stellar, yeah, but yeah they.
I never, really.
There's nothing that reallyturned me on about freaking.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
ZZ Top.
See, but I kind of like that.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
It's sacrilegious to a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
I don't think it's sacrilegious, because if you
don't like it, you don't like it.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
I don't like it.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
But again I like it.
I again I like it.
I thought they were a good band.
They were a good three-pieceband.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
I'll give them credit where credit's due.
It's just that I didn't youknow, I call them ZC Slop, that
was my name for them when theycame out.
I mean, I didn't really.
There wasn't anything thatreally did like.
I was like man, that's a prettygreat song.
I mean, you're singing songsabout TV dinners and shit like

(34:12):
that.
I was like you know no See, Ididn't.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
You know, Eliminator kind of ruined them for me.
I mean, I didn't really carefor.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
That was a little too commercial.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Yeah, a little bit too commercial.
I like Deguaylo, that's a goodalbum, but yeah, not really, not
so much.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
Eagles man.
I love the Eagles.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Yeah, but I mean, look at all the talent they had.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
Oh my gosh, there's singers out galore out of that
one I.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
There's singers out galore out of that one.
I mean everybody could sing,Hanley could sing.
Except for Joe Walsh yeah wellyeah, okay.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
Joe Walsh's voice sucked, but you could tell it
was Joe Walsh.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Yeah, but I mean Glenn Frey could sing a storm up
and Hanley could sing.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
Timothy B.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
He could hit the high stuff, yeah.
But yeah, that was a great band.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Yeah, yeah, they were .

Speaker 3 (35:04):
We didn't talk about them earlier, but now we are.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
But yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
Because I do, man.
There's not much Eagles that Idon't like.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
You know, I've heard it so much that I'm kind of
tiring of it.
Well, I mean it's been.
You know 40 years of it.
Well, I mean it's been.
You know 40 years of it, 50years of it being poured down
your neck.
It, yeah, gets old.
It's like stairway to heaven.
You just you've heard it somany times that it's like it
turns into an earworm.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
It's just the yeah yeah, I don't like it.
I didn't think that was afantastic song anyway.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Stairway to Heaven.
It was okay.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
It was not like oh God, stairway.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
Yeah, same with freaking Freebird.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
No, I like Freebird.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Yeah, I can't do it.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
But I'm a Skinner fan .

Speaker 2 (35:59):
I like Skinner, but that's one song that just
freaking, it's just like.
It's just like a stairway toheaven.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
I liked a lot of other stuff before free bird,
but I did like free bird.
It's not like it wasn't.
I don't know, man.
I think we were talking aboutthat.
I do like it, man.
That was almost a perfect songfreebird yeah uh, maybe, maybe
just for me I think we weretalking about that with ron I
think freebird may be a perfectsong uh, it's perfect in some

(36:28):
way for me.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
I'd perfectly like to never hear it again I don't
know I, I can't do it.
It's like really good, I meanI'm not saying it's a bad song,
just like stairway to heaven,but I just I've heard it too
many times.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
I don't want to hear it yeah, well, I mean because
you know you gotta, is there aperfect song for you?
Because we were talking about,like I said, we're talking about
that, we'll do it live I don'tknow.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
That's a.
That's a really good question,I because we talked about
perfect album.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
And then we talk about you know, perfect song, or
did it vice versa, one of theone of the two you go back and
listen to it's episode, onepeople, but um, perfect song.
And then we kind of agreed onfreebird on that, because I
think it is yeah whether youlike, whether you've heard it a
million times right not, it'sjust the the song it's very good

(37:18):
, I'll give it to you.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
It's very good, uh, I don't know if it's very good,
I'll give it to you.
It's very good, uh, I don'tknow if it's perfect though it's
clear.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
It's pretty good as you can get it's pretty, it's
yeah, it's probably close don'tknow, whatever, what's going to
be a better perfect song thanthat?

Speaker 2 (37:38):
gosh, I can't think of anything that's do.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
Do you really want to hurt me by Culture Club?
Is that better?
That's pretty freaking close,and you know what the answer to
that question is you don't gowrong with Boy George?

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Yeah, you know what the answer to the question is
yes, I do.
That's the answer to thatquestion yes, I do.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
Yeah, well, you know, got to give Boy his credit
right now.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
I had a girlfriend that loved that fucking group
back in the day and I justcouldn't stand it.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
You know what?
I don't really like pop music,but freaking Wham was good.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
You know I got to agree with that.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
There's somebody who had a freaking great voice
George Michael.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
George Michael, george Michael, yeah, dude could
sing.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
He could sing anything.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
Yeah, you know, they had some yeah, they had a run,
yeah, and they had some prettygood songs.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
And I don't like pop dance music.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
But they were good.
They were good, you know yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
And that was his talent man.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
He was freaking, phenomenally talented One of the
big wake me up for you, go, gosong.
I know but there was otherstuff that that careless whisper
was a fantastic song.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
That's probably in that genre.
That's probably as close to aperfect song as there's ever
going to be.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
Yeah, that was a great.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
It was about the band .
I saw a documentary on the bandand there was like a bunch of
different iterations of thatsong and George Michael didn't
like any of them until he got tothat one.
They went through a bunch ofdifferent I don't know a bunch.
They went through more than onerecording studio and more than
one producer.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
And the cut that everybody knows was not the
first one yeah I mean he wantedit perfect.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
Well it was.
It was close to it yeah notfree bird, but right there okay,
this uh, okay, here's okay,real quick, go ahead.
Well, I was, I was gonna say,uh, you don't like?

Speaker 2 (39:47):
beach music, right?
Well, I was going to say youdon't like beach music, right?
You're not a Beach Boys, or?

Speaker 3 (39:53):
Oh hell, no, I think.
Oh God, that shit drove me nuts.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Really.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
Yeah, you know, I think Dave.
Okay, you know what I thinkabout David Lee Ross voice.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
And I think his version of California Girls was
better than the Beach.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
Boys.
You know what I think I have toagree with that.
So you know what I think I Ihave to agree with that, so you
know there's where.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
There's where I stand , there's where I stand on that
guy.
I see now I like it becausethere's a lot of harmonies
involved and and freaking.
Brian wilson was a genius inthat I love harmonies too and I
do.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
I think that's great.
I think crosby stills anddash's on't legendary Right.
But I just couldn't do BeachBoys, man, I just can't do the
fucking Beach Boys.
It just irritated the livingshit out of me.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Now that's funny, because I like that, I like that
music.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
That kind of cracks me up a little bit.
I would not have thought thatat all.
I wouldn't think that, hey,Ricker, you're a Beach Boys man
by trade.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Well, monday morning when I go to work, you better
freaking.
Have it tuned up and ready togo on.

Speaker 3 (40:59):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
You know I, you know one of the80's bands you were talking
about.
It was kind of whammish buttears for fears.
I, I thought a lot of their.
I thought a lot of their songsare pretty good, except for that

(41:21):
shout song.
I hated it yeah because I mean,we always sing it like shout,
shout, let it all out.
Yeah, this is a song we can dowithout Right and shit like that
, because the song blew ass.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Everybody wants to rule the world is a great song
to me.
Pretty good, it's fair.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
And they had some decent stuff and I wasn't really
a big fan of theirs but Ithought that they had some good
stuff.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
No, it's like Wham or freaking Duran Duran.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
There's songs in there you like, damn dude.
I'm glad you brought up DuranDuran because I liked them.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
I think that their music was, you know, well done.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
Progressively worse.
Right, okay, but I did likeDuran Duran, you know,
especially some of the earlystuff.
But then again I liked earlyNickelback and the rest of their
shit sucked after that too.
Um, the early stuff was good,it was it was and then all of a

(42:21):
sudden, they went to hell.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
You know, there's a lot of bands like that, like
their first, you know bon jovi,okay, bon jovi, okay, let me.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
Let me get this out real quick while I'm thinking
about it.
Like their first, you know, bonJovi, okay, bon Jovi, okay, let
me get this out real quickwhile I'm thinking about it.
Their first two records, youknow, their self-titled one and
then 7800 degree Fahrenheit.
I thought it was even betterthan Slippery when Wet, that's
what they're big known for.
But after, okay, I'll even giveSlippery when Wet props just
because it was a good record,right.

(42:51):
But after, okay, I'll even giveSlippery when wet props just
because it was a good record,Right.
But after that it blew ass.
Yeah, he went Ballad City, kindof like Dennis DeYoung did to
Styx, right After he did thatBabe song.
All he wanted to do was fuckingballads and then, REO
Speedwagon, which I liked Right.
And then Kevin Cronin same deal.

(43:12):
Yeah, he was like I workedyears and years and years on
this song and then he startedplaying it and I was like, oh no
, not that.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
You wasted your time, dude.
Go back to writing, try again.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
And that was well.
I can't fight this feeling.
That's what it was.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
Yeah, and I'm like, oh shit man, you guys had way
better shit than that.
You worked years on that, right, you know I got to say that you
wasted a lot of time like yousaid, yeah, but REO, I liked
them.
I liked them before HighInfidelity.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
Yeah, they were okay.
They weren't one of my favoritebands, but they were okay.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
Yeah, good stuff.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
And Gary Richrath could play guitar pretty good
yeah.
You know, yeah, but bands thatwere progressively sucked yeah
there's a lot of them.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
Yeah, there's a lot of them, poor Guns N' Roses they
put out such a great firstalbum?

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Yeah, how do you?
Repeat that you know, and rosesthey.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
you know they put out such a great first album yeah,
how do you, how do you repeatthat you know um?

Speaker 2 (44:25):
like I said, nickelback, but there's probably
others.
Yeah, there's got to be others,because I um anybody out there?
I think, I think you know youprobably get into some of the
grunge bands.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
And.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
I think that's where you see a lot of drop off, and
part of it is Cobain died sothey couldn't go any further,
but their first album was great.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
You just brought up a couple of guys that I think
that you know, just because ofthe grunge shit.
Oh God, sound Gardens.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
Oh yeah, Gosh dang it .

Speaker 3 (45:06):
This is pissing me off.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
I know Chris Cornell Cornell yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
Chris Cornell, huge, great voice.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
Chester Bennington.
There's another one.
Yes, fucking great voice, yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Linkin Park was yeah, they were excellent, yeah, good
stuff.
But again their music kind oftapered off there.
It wasn't as well.
I guess they didn't have as biga fall off as some other bands.
They were pretty decent, theyhad good songs.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
No, they didn't fall off.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
I was just like I was singing to two great singers.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
I want to give them their props real quick.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
Yeah, I think that's right.
Yeah yeah, chester was right.
Yeah yeah, chester Chester was.
He was a good singer.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
Good Great, you said Duke and belt.
Both of them killed themselves.
Thanks a lot, guys.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Chris Cornell had nothing to live for.
Really, there's planes thatleave out of Detroit.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
You don't have to get that depressed because you're
there, just get on a plane,fuckhead.
Yeah, it's like it's got, it'sjust got.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
Crazy man and I've written the.
Chester bennington reallyshocked me, I do.
You know there's a lot ofconspiracy theories about him, a
lot.
I don't know if I buy any ofthem, but there's a lot of them
you got any off in somebody toldme that he was about to blow
the lid off of hollywood andchild uh, child diddling really

(46:46):
yeah, that something happenedhim when he was a kid what the
hell?
Yeah, and somebody wanted himto freaking shut up about it.
But I don't again.
That's just rumor.
I have no idea.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
That cannot be verified, people, so don't get
on record.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
Yeah, yeah.
And you know that's like withCobain, you know, having an
interview the day before heshoots himself and everybody
thinking he sounded perfectlyfine.
What the hell's the deal?
Yeah, or the day of I don'teven know.
It was really close.
He did like a long forminterview with somebody.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
Cobain didn't surprise me.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
No, and you know.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
Chris Cornell Chester Bennington.
Yeah't surprise me.
No, and you know, chris CornellChester.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Bennington, they surprised me.
Yeah, yeah, definitely, cornellwas a shock, but then you see,
like his, somebody did a youknow, took a video of him.
I think he was at the FoxTheater in Detroit, detroit, in
Detroit.

(47:54):
Yeah, he looked like ass and hesounded like hell.
Yeah, yeah, that was likewithin the day or two days
before.
Yeah, he looked like crap.
So that sucks.
Yeah it, man, because a dudehad unbelievable talent.
Yeah, I mean Soundgarden was afreaking grade A band.

(48:16):
They really were.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
And then, what was the other band he was in?

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Oh shit.
We're killing ourselves hereWith a memory loss.
It's freaking ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
It's going to come to us, but oh shit, maybe not.
You got to Google that man?
Yeah, Chris Cornell man.
Yeah, I will, Because that'spissing me off.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Yeah, this is too much.
We got the Google machinesright here.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
Everybody out there.
Almost Famous Radio Podcast atgmailcom.
I would love for you guys togive us some bands.
That's progressively got worse.
Also great rock singers.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Audio Slave.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
Audio Slave, that's it.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
He was in another band too, and they had one song
that I can remember Audio Slave,audio Slave, that's it.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
Yeah, he was in another band too, and they had
one song that I can remember,gosh dang it, you know Corey
Taylor.
He sang for Stone Sour and thenhe also sang for that one group
that went I can't remember thename of it, right, but it was
crazy how they did all thatmusic and shit.

(49:35):
Like then he's saying for stonesour, like duke can fucking
sing right temple of the dog,temple of the dog that was the
other band that he was.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Yeah, yeah, that was a good band, but it's funny some
of those, you know that wholegrunge scene, a lot of those
bands.
There were people going in andout of them, especially in like
in the real early 90s yeah sothere you know there were
associations between all thesepeople that came out of seattle
in the grunge movement thatthey're all they you know they

(50:04):
were in each other's bands andshit in the early days it's too
bad.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
Nobody clotheslined Eddie Vedder and screwed his
vocal.
No kidding man?
Well, I guess they might have,because who knows what the fuck
he's singing about.
I don't understand any of theshit that he sings, I mean
lyrically.
If I'm listening to it I'm likewhat the hell did he just say?

Speaker 2 (50:30):
Yeah or sing.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
Whatever, don't care yeah or sing Whatever.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
Don't care.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
Don't care.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
They had a couple of songs that were decent.
They did.
Don't get me wrong.
I'm not going to say everyfreaking Pearl Jam song sucked,
but I just didn't know what thefuck he was singing.
I don't know what the fuck hewas singing.
I don't know how could they putthe lyrics on an album jacket

(50:57):
when they don't even know whatthe fuck he was singing about.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
Does it even actually tie to what he was singing
anyways?

Speaker 3 (51:04):
Yeah, I don't know, there's somebody else like that
oh freaking.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
There's somebody else like oh freaking, oh shit, the
lead singer from Motley Crue,vince Neil.
Vince, neil, yeah, I cannot.
You know the last 10 years thathe was singing.
It's like are you even fuckingspeaking English?
Well?

Speaker 3 (51:27):
that's the time you can really know anything,
because they were sober on that.
Dr Feelgood was a totally soberalbum and that was a freaking
masterpiece.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
That was I like Motley, don't get me wrong, I do
too.
I like Motley, I do too.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
They fucked up a lot of people man on the strip back
in the day before they got back.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
They were freaking.
Yeah, they were animals.
Yeah, no doubt about it butthey're cool, man.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Man I mean, um, shit man.
I was watching documentary onit on nicky six and and how he,
you know he woke up with afreaking needle still in his arm
and shit like that.
He was clinically dead for one,you know, and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
He still went out and got heroin and then he maybe
just got clean, yeah yeah, it'scrazy that whole freaking that,
that whole biography that he hewrote and then like didn't he
put the six cents?

Speaker 3 (52:27):
is that what the band that he put together afterwards
?
Uh?
It was pretty good, yeah, hadlife is beautiful on it, okay,
yeah, yeah, that's, that was.
That was pretty.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
You know pretty good short-lived there's, there's a
bunch of them, there's a bunchof those kind of bands, yeah,
and then it's just short-lived.
It's like uh, I'm in between,you're in between, let's, and
then it's just short-lived.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
It's like I'm in between, you're in between.
Let's make an album.
Let's do it.
Yeah, because it always pissesoff other band members.
Right, you're not involved init and all this kind of shit.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:02):
You're over there raising a kid or something.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
Right yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
I'm going to go play music.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Right, yeah, I guess that's how it was.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
I don't know.
I've never been a rock singer.
We're in a band, for thatmatter.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
Yeah, yeah.
I think Motley had so many goodsongs.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
From the jump, yeah, from their very first record and
then they even to the last one.
I mean that I remember was theyeven had that Saints of Los
Angeles song and they sounded sogood, yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
I just I thought they were just a fantastic band.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
What do you think about Metallica?

Speaker 3 (53:46):
I think that they're one of the most overrated bands
ever See now I like them, but Ididn't say I didn't like them
yeah I liked a lot, okay, okaythey.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
They were great way back and then they progressively
got corporate yeah, everybodysays the black album is where it
went, freaking sideways for andit was a good one.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
It was a very good one, you know, and all of a
sudden everything startedsounding exactly alike.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Yeah, yeah, kind of did.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
Yeah, every song sounded just alike to me.
Yeah, and plus they pissed meoff back in the Napster days
because, I had.
Napster, when it was free, andthen Lars over.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Yeah, I had to go bitch about it.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
They bitched about that shit about free music.
Okay, we were downloading freemusic and shit like that, and
then they got the governmentinvolved A fucking band like
Metallica getting governmentinvolved.
Right, you sons of bitches,yeah, and then now look
everything's free on YouTube.
I know, you can listen to anydamn song you want.

(54:53):
So take that Lars Ulrich rightup, your fucking Swedish or
whatever, your ass, whateverGerman or whatever it is, eat it
Dane.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
He's a Dane, I think.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
Okay, hell with it.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
Danish ass.
Whatever Right, She'll shove itup there.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Right.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
That's what will work .
If you want to come over hereand talk about it, we will.
I'm not scared of you I youknow what, although you're one
of the best drummers ever withthe feet yeah but still fuck you
, okay, yeah he's yeah, they'vehad some great songs they have
uh but that's a good question.

(55:31):
Metallica, Because there's alot of ride or dies with that
band.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
There's a lot of Metallica.
They think they're the greatestband ever.
I like them and they're good.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
They're good.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Yeah, that's it, they're good.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
And yeah, I don't think they're one of the best
good, and yeah, I don't thinkthey're like one of the best,
although and you know what'sweird is they got primo people
at each right.
Each member that does.
Um, jason newstead was a greatbassist, right kurt hammett.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely and andthen, uh, um james hatfieldfield

(56:12):
he could play the guitar, not agreat singer.
But his voice is perfect forwhat they did.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
His voice is great for the music.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
And then Lars Eat Shit.
Ulrich.
Right, he probably has thefastest feet in drumming history
, even though Neil Peart's abetter drummer than anybody else
.
I'm going to hand it to NeilPeart, not just because they're
my favorite band.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
If anyone's challenged me, I'm going to go
ahead, you got to put him upthere at the top you have to.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
My kid.
I remember my kid when he wasyounger.
He wanted to play drums.
I said you know what?
Okay, if you want to play drums, I want to show you who you
want to emulate.
And I showed him Neil Peart,and until the day he passed he
was like that was his drummer itwas Neil Peart.

(57:05):
He couldn't he wasn't Neil Peart, by all means Nobody is.
But I mean I said, if you wantto learn and you really want to
try to emulate somebody, do that.
I mean you're not going tomatch him Right, but even if you
have a little bit of successtrying to emulate Neil Peart,

(57:27):
you're going to be able to playdrums.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
Right.

Speaker 3 (57:30):
And you'll be fine.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
And you'll be better than Ringo.
Yeah, who wasn't an outstandingdrummer.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
No.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
Who was good drummers ?

Speaker 2 (57:43):
Bonham, good one, bonham, oh, keith Moon.

Speaker 3 (57:48):
Yeah, Keith Moon.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Gosh dang it.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
Well, lars, lars, you got to put Lars there.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
We'll give him that credit.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
Piece of shit.
Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
Yeah, we got Lars, butdrummer-wise, yeah, like I said,
perk.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
Tommy Lee is pretty good.
Tommy Lee is a really gooddrummer.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
He's pretty good.
Got to see him live.
Tommy Lee is pretty good, Tommy.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
Lee is a really good drummer.
He's pretty good.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
I see him live and that dude can drum.
He was, he was.
It's pretty fun to watch himdrum.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
He was bad-ass for a marching band guy for a marching
band guy.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
The dude could play.
He can, he can.
So yeah, I mean there's reallynot too many other outstanding
drummers, not that you know notthat I'm sure there are.
There has to be, I'm suresomebody might chime in on it
one of these days and say, hey,you forgot this guy idiot.
But you know, I just can'tthink of any right now, grohl.

(58:47):
Eh, he's okay, he's okay, hewas a pounder, he was just a
beater he just beat the shit outof his room uh, yeah, but
smells like teen spirit he wason it that that's a freaking.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
That's such a good drum riff such a good drum riff.
Yeah, it really is.
Um gosh dang.
I'm trying to think, uh, wewere just talking about a band
who had a a great drummer and II can't, oh, sound garden.

(59:22):
I'm trying to think of their,their drummers, excellent pretty
good huh yeah, I never eventhought about the drummer on
that.
Yeah, cameron.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
What the?

Speaker 2 (59:33):
hell.
Yeah, I've got it right here.
I've got my Google machinetuned up.
Get that Google machine going.
Yeah, because we need it.
Yeah, we do.
Come on Soundgarden.

Speaker 3 (59:45):
I don't even know any of Soundgarden's freaking band
members' names besides Cornell.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
Kim Thiel, it was a guitarist.
Okay, the other, you know thelead guitarist.

Speaker 3 (59:58):
And I'm ashamed of myself for not knowing that, but
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
There you have it.
Yeah, matt Cameron.
Drummer Was a drummer and Ithink he's pretty damn good.
Drummer was a drummer and Ithink he's he's pretty damn good
.
Yeah, there's, you know there.
All right, drumming is, I'msure, is so freaking hard that

(01:00:24):
to do it in front of people tobe a drummer yeah it's probably
the most underrated member of aband, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
Because it's hard.
I mean it's not easy to do.
You've got to have your feetand your hands working at
different levels.
I mean, I even try to do a drumset and stuff like that.
I can do one at a time.
Right, I can beat the shit outof some couch cushions with my
hands, but not using my feet atthe same time, no, and so

(01:00:54):
drummer is probably the mostunderrated member of any band.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
I think so too.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
No matter how good or bad or not, and I shouldn't say
bad, you're good.
If you're in a band, you'regood, or like you know.
So if you're okay or whatever,well, just add singing to it.
Yeah, that's the one that killsme.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
Not that I really like some of the singers that
were drummers, but Phil Collins.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Yeah, phil Collins, for sure, or Henley Henley.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
Yeah, henley too.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
Dude from Night Ranger.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
So he sang lead on some.
He's a drummer too.
Yeah, yeah, henley too, dudefrom Night Ranger.
Yeah, so he sang lead on someof his drummer too yeah.
So, Not a whole lot of them,though Lead singer, drummer
combinations.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
Yeah, at least sing on stuff like that, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
I don't know that's a .
You know this is a subjectthat's really you.
It's kind of computer intensivebecause you, you can't remember
all these people, you justcan't get it going.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
So here's the great thing about it is is that we
hadn't even scratched thesurface on half the shit that we
wanted to talk about on here,so we're gonna have to do
another one yeah, and then we'lljust do it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
I think, when you do something like this, I think
three or four people would bebetter.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
Oh, I think so.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
Because what I forget , somebody else will remember.
Right With the two of us, we'rejust both forgetting the same
people over and over.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
Exactly.
That's just how we do it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
Yeah, that's how we operate.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
So we'll get some people in here I'd like to get
actually ron in here becausehe's, he's a music guy.
Um, even jason, for that matter, he, he's a.
He listens to a lot of music.
Uh, um, he's, he's gonna.
I can't talk country with himbecause he's a country, he likes
a lot of country stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
I don't really listen to that too much Old stuff
maybe.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
Yeah, old stuff, but yeah, I mean, no matter what,
who it is, everybody has theiropinion on music.
Yeah, and that's what's greatabout this topic, because we can
go on.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
I think this might be one of our winter topics, just
going on it's just, yeah, youcould, you could, you know, and
you could incorporate it intoany number other subjects you
can do.
You know, you could do 15minutes of this right.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
Well, I mean, we could go and we'll have other
people and then right you knowwe could do the same subject.
We don't have to have the.
You know you're like oh man,they just touched on that last
time.
Well, well, we have otherpeople.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
Right, and now you got other opinions.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
Plus, it's our show, we can do whatever the hell we
want.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
Right, yeah, pretty much.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
Yeah, so yeah, but yeah, I think this is a perfect
time to wrap it up.
Okay, sounds good yeah well,thanks everybody for listening.
Thank you, ricker, absolutely,yeah, this is kind of you know,
we were just like uh, we caughthim out of deer season.
He's, you know, he's a deerhunting dude, you know.
Except, he's got a lot ofpoison oak on him right now.

(01:04:00):
So, good thing, nobody wants torub up against him, no, but, um
, you know, you can find usanywhere on your uh, where you,
wherever platform you listen tolike I said, almost famous radio
podcast at gmailcom.
That's where I'd like everybodyto check out.

(01:04:20):
Man, just, just just.
I'd love to have anybody thatlistens to this go on there and
then tell us what they want todo.
Let us know.
Yeah, topics, yeah, if you wantto hear something, let's do it.
And we want to thank everybodythat listens to us, coast to
coast, here in this country, toaround the world which we are.

(01:04:43):
We have more than one person.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
Even though we're a certain person, nobody's
listening.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
All you nobodies out there, thanks, coast to coast
and around the world.
I'm, I'm, I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
I'm, I'm.