Leviticus and Hebrews: Part Four

In tonight’s Bible Study we read and discuss Hebrews chapter 5 and Leviticus chapters 12-14 with a detour into Acts 18 to answer a question we had. We hope you are blessed by the conversation.


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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Hello and oh hi guys you here. Hello, and welcome
to part four of our Leviticus Hebrew Bible Study Leviticus Hebrews. Wow.
I'm very proud of no wrong questions Bible study here

(01:13):
on the Alternatively channel or if you're over on YouTube,
it's just the just the Bible Study channel. I have
a headache. I have had a headache for I think
more than a week now. I think it's just been
like one long stop doing that. Yeah, it's not it's
not been fun. It's not been great, not my favorite.
So that's why my brain's are not working. So so

(01:34):
I'm actually really a jerk for laughing at you. Yes,
that's that was the point I was trying to make.
I was trying to start this off with a really
solid yeah this this light turns itself off, so I
need to get it. I need to get anyone it
turns itself off and it turns itself on. I will
sometimes like be going to better and be like why
is the light on in there? And have to go
in and turn it off. It's just wild. Yeah, I

(01:57):
think there's just there's just something wrong with the switcher an.
It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. It's been my brain.
Dear Lord, thank you so much for tonight. Thank you
for everyone who tunes into this Bible study. I pray

(02:20):
that you would bless it. I pray that you would
guide our discussion. I pray that you would keep us
out of error. I pray that this would be a blessing.
I pray that those listening would hear what they need
to hear from you and understand uh. And even if
we don't say something that they will still get it
from your word and your name. So we read every verse,

(02:40):
we talk about it. We're not Bible teachers. There might
be things that you think we should have talked about
that we didn't talk about, and we're just kind of
reading it and going off of what's kind of hitting
us in the moment. And you are welcome, more than welcome,
to talk about what you find interesting about the passage
in the chat. These we record, we pre record them,

(03:01):
and then we premiere them live. So we're actually recording
this while last week's or this week's part of the
Bible Study is is premiering. So kind of the chat
over there and keeping an eye on So do you
want to make things really confusing about reacting in real
time to last week. Right, Yeah, I was, I was

(03:22):
actually gonna. I was thinking about like how Danny was
Annie was first and first, and Sata was second, Variable
was third, but he said he was fifth, and then
it just it evolved from there. It definitely, it definitely
got worse. But no, I appreciate everybody who tunes in. Okay,

(03:46):
let's let's get into it, because my brain is too.
This might be a lot of reading and not a
lot of commenting this particular episode, because I don't know
if I have it in me. We just finished the
rest of the Lyticus. Yeah, just straight read all right.
We start with the chapter of Hebrews and then we
get into Lividus. So here we do, Here we do,
Here we go, Here we do, Here we do. For

(04:08):
every high priest chosen from among men, is appointed to
act on behalf of men in a relation to God,
to offer gifts and sacrifices for sins. He can deal
gently with the ignorant and wayward, since he himself is
beset with weakness. Because of this, he is obligated to
offer sacrifice for his own sins, just as he does
for those of the people. And no one takes this

(04:29):
honor for himself, but only when called by God, just
as Aaron was so. Also Christ did not exalt himself
to be made a high priest, but was appointed by
Him who said to him, you are my son. Today
I have begotten you.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
That is.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
I hate it when it references the first time it
ever and have to go all the way back to
Hubrews instead of hair it is and now I'm two
seven okay, back okay, as he says, also in another place,
you are a priest forever after the order of Melchizedeic

(05:08):
I appre and this is a Psalm one hundred and ten.
I love this. The We don't know who wrote Hebrews,
but he's like in another place it says this, and
it's like a direct quote, so he clearly hasn't memorized.
But if they didn't have the chapter and verse divisions,
so he's not. They were as worried about. Yeah, I

(05:28):
just saw the chat and Satyr says conjecture and speculation agaby,
which I'm gonna take personally and apply to what I'm
saying right now. I'm gonna I'm gonna be offended about
comments made, but apply them because I don't. I'm not
listening to the episodes. I don't know what they're referring to.
Pretend they're applying to this exactly. You were conjecturing and

(05:50):
speculating about the Bible division. But I've heard speak of
conjecture of speculation. Obviously, there's one theory that Paul wrote
Hebrews that to me doesn't seem that doesn't work. It
does in my head. It doesn't sound like everything else
that Paul's written. If it was Paul, he used a
very different style. Yeah, I've heard was it, Uh, but

(06:16):
the apostle who began with the bees not Barnabas?

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (06:20):
No, Yeah, it's probably I've heard that. And then they've
actually speculated it was one of the women women. I
forget there's a specific name of like a woman in
the New Testament. Anyway, something that's interesting and I my
feeling is it's not someone who's written any of the

(06:41):
other books in the New Testament because it has such
a unique Yeah, I wondered if it was John, that's
that is another because I think it feels more like
John than it feels, yeah, like any of the other
If it's if it's someone who's already written another book
in the New test it's John. Yeah, very fascinating. Though
it is very it is also the highest level of

(07:04):
Greek that is in the entire New Testament. That it's not.
It's not Attic, which is how you can guess that
it was a woman who wrote it. I don't know
about that. I wouldn't have a problem with it, but
I would doubt that that it was a woman. If
it if it was a woman, If it was a woman,

(07:26):
I can see why God hit that. Yeah, well that
was what I was thinking of, Like, that'd be really
fascinating by everybody. Okay, And she doesn't cite her chapter
a verse because she's a woman. That's that's what we're
gonna go with. As he says, also in another place,

(07:47):
you're a priest forever. After the order of Melchizedic. We've
talked about Melchilsdic on the channel. He is referenced in Genesis.
Abraham pays a tithe to him. He's a really mysterious
character and the Second Temple Jews speculated about him a lot.

(08:08):
They speculated if he was God, if he was like
an appearance of God. They speculated if he was Michael
the angel might Markangel Michael. I have this whole theory,
and I've presented it on the channel before. Maybe I
should present it again at some point that he's job Yes,
I remember that, but and and he's gonna be referenced

(08:32):
a lot in Hebrews, like Hebrews talks about him a lot,
because he's just like this random priest that shows up,
and he's just a different order of priests than you've
ever seen before or since. And David references him, and
obviously you're a priest forever after the order of mon
David is the one who spries him into Jesus. And
so it's just it's just a fun thing to think

(08:54):
about and talk about and what will continue to as
as we see the references. And he was yes, you
had meant that some people speculate the Malchos Dick is Michael, Yeah, well,
second the Second Temple juice. So I don't I think
it's a speculation that makes sense with just the Old
Testament references. But by the time you add in the

(09:15):
Hebrews references, I don't think it makes any sense for
it to be Michael the archangel. But and I could
be it was like a year ago that I looked
into some of this this stuff. But my reasoning for
thinking it could be Job is that Job is somebody
we don't we don't have any genealogy for. We don't

(09:37):
know exactly when he lived. We just randomly, Yeah, we
from the like weather markers in Job and some of
like the features in Job. It seems like we generally
date it really early, like, yeah, that he probably lived
before the author before Moses who wrote Genesis sex or

(10:01):
compiled and wrote Genesis Exiviticus Numbersseuteronomy. So and what we
hear about Melchizedic is that he doesn't have genealogy.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
He doesn't.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
He's might as well be eternal. And it's a little
we'll get to those verses. Well, maybe we'll talk about
it more. When we get to those, we'll burn the
bridges across.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Uh for seven.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
In the days of his flush flesh, Jesus offered up
prayers and supplications with loud cries and tears to him
who was able to save him from death, and he
was heard because of his reverence. Although he was a son,
he learned obedience through what he suffered, and being made perfect,
he became the source of eternal salvation to all who
obey him, being designated by God a high priest after
the order of Melchizedic. So what will continue to be

(10:49):
kind of repeated here in Hebrews is that Jesus is
a high is our high priest forever. But he's not
a high priest in the order of Erin. Yes, And
what does it mean to be in the order of Melchizek?
Who was Melchizedek is just kind of a question. And
again we see that terminology of being made perfect where

(11:11):
I really think it ties to the whole people, being like, well,
he can't have been born to someone with original sin
because he'd be tainted by in his well, he was
born into human flesh which is tainted, and he made
it perfect by not sinning. Yes, he has got he
is perfect and he lived out perfection. Yeah, and we
see we see him tempted, and I think that that's

(11:34):
like the idea is like you are tempted through your flesh. Yeah,
But the point of Jesus coming in the flesh is
that he overcame the flesh. If if if it wasn't
about overcoming the flesh, he could have come in a
different way. He didn't. Yeah, he wouldn't have had to
have been born a woman, born of a woman. He
wasn't born a woman, born of woman. Okay, he wouldn't

(11:54):
have been born a woman. And I was like, I
have news for you. And he was.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
He was a man in a woman's body, and.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
Then he was born, and then he was born. Okay.
Verse eleven. About this, we have much to say, and
it is hard to explain. Yes, since you have become
dull of hearing. It's way easier if you weren't so stupid.
I'm reading this verse again because holy crap, about this.

(12:22):
We have much to say and it is hard to
explain since you have become dull.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
Here.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Wow, see a line like this, I can understand why
they're like, yep, this is Paul, this is deinite or
in the mother in the woman theory, this is like
a mother thing too. Of like, I would tell you this,
but you are so dense, for though by this time
you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach
you again the basic principles of the oracles of God.

(12:51):
You need milk, not solid food, for everyone who lives
on milk is unskilled in the Word of righteousness. Since
he is a child, but solid food is from the
mature for those who have their powers of discernment trained
by constant practice to distinguish good from evil. I think
this passage is a really good Limus test, but not
in the way you might think. So. I've seen like

(13:12):
Twitter theologians being like trying to take the same attitude
of like, oh, you're still on milk and I'm on
solid food, And I feel like anyone who needs to
brag that they're on solid food is gonna choke on
solid food because the're still needing to drink milk. Both.
In my opinion, I think it's really interesting. Oh thank
you Annie, She says, this is a really good deep dive. Girls.

(13:35):
People are gonna be watching.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
That's a go.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Annie's not even in chat tonight, She's in chat with
her hearts. But this is I think this should be
humbling to all of us, because I think that Hebrews
is the densest book speaking of Denis in my whole Bible,
Like as far as like having to sit there and
read the lines over and over and go, wait, what is.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
It saying.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Those words separately?

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Sorry?

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yeah, you've got me. You've got people believing it's a
woman now, because I was, Okay, let's just follow let's
just just for today, don't burn us at the stake,
burn app just for tonight. We're gonna I'm gonna keep
saying she because I think it's funny. But then next
part part five, Part five, we'll be back Priscilla. That's

(14:25):
the one who's that. I was starting out for Pricilla
and Aquila, who said, right, what's his face? Oh hang on,
now now I have to look up. Well, let me Okay,
let's let's finish this. But there is a masculine self
referential participle in the text itself. We'll burn that bridge

(14:46):
a little bit later, but for now, as a joke,
a little joking joke, it's Priscilla, Priscilla for Scilla. I
do think it's It's like the the thickest Greek, the
most difficult to understand Greek, that the highest concept in
the whole Bible, most difficult to understand, and the authors
like this is milk. Guys. I know, I'm also for

(15:08):
needy this explained to you. I feel embarrassed because, like
I am struggling understanding basically English. So but it is interesting.
I like in my defense as a as a Christian
in twenty twenty five is the audience for this book
is the Hebrews. Like it's it's Jews who should understand

(15:30):
the law. You should have had more of a kind
of they should already have the entire foundation down. Yes,
and so there are ways in which like you and
me are wrestling with a foundation and how it's integrating
with Jesus, and they shouldn't be. And this is specifically
aimed for people who are Hebrews and have not converted.
Oh my understanding is that's according to the cars study

(15:52):
Bible is to I mean, there could be some converts
in here. So the idea of like you need spiritual
milk because you haven't even seen that Jesus is God.
Oh that's a good point too. How I took it
from the commentary from the John MacArthur Bible. When you
said this is a litmus test, I thought you were
gonna say that, like some people are offended by these verses.

(16:13):
Oh no, just the people who take the verses as
a compliment to themselves for being really smart. Are the
ones who the verses are for, is my opinion. Look, Annie,
you know what it's hoof. Okay, it's it's no, it
was I saying who. You're saying that. You just agreed
with me very decidedly. There's no walking that back. You

(16:33):
were very very decided on that. Guess okay, fine, I
was I was mispronouncing who in the last you're pronouncing
it like roof, yeah, huf. I guess it's hoof. And
I have heard it both ways. We were, we are.
We might get some more hoof references once we get
to Livedicus. But why don't you just every other time
you say it alternate you're pronunciator, I should I should

(16:55):
just keep going back back and forth. So it's like,
clearly you can't tell. Okay, three results for Priscilla, they
are all in Acts eighteen. Let's just go to Axe eighteen.
Let's see. After this, Paul left Athens and went to Corinth,
and he found a Jew named Aquilla, a native of Pontus,
recently come from Italy with his wife Priscilla. Because Claudius

(17:16):
had commanded all the Jews to leave Rome, and he
went to see them, and because he was of the
same trade, he stayed with them and worked for They
were tent maker's brave trade and he reasoned in the
synagogue every Sabbath and try to persuade Jews and Greeks. Backstory,
Laudius had told the Jews to leave Rome because if
I'm getting my timeline right, they were debating so much
in the streets about the faith. It was they were
like fighting all the time, a cousing disruptions because they

(17:38):
were debating the Jews amiac. Let's see, when Silace and
Timothy arrived from Macedonia, Paul was occupied with the word
testifying to the Jews of the Christ was Jesus. And
when they opposed and reviled him, he shook out his
garments and said to them, your blood beyond your own heads.
I am innocent. From now on I will go to
the Gentiles. And he left there and went to the
house of a man named Titious, justice shipper of God.

(18:01):
His I didn't make that up. That is his name,
might be I'm being Claudius. It's probably Cloudius, Claudius. I
don't know, it's not important. I was going off of
like Titus. But it's Tedius. Yeah, okay, probably Tedious. I
don't even know. This is a bunny trail, off a

(18:21):
bunny trail. His house was next door to the synagogue. Chrispus,
the ruler of the synagogue, believed in the Lord together
with his entire household, and many of the Corinthians hearing
Paul believed and were baptized. And the Lord said to
Paul one night in a vision, do not be afraid,
but go on speaking, and do not be silent, for
I am with you, and no one will attack you
to harm you. For I have many in the city
who are on my people. And he stayed a year

(18:41):
and six months teaching the word of God among them.
But when Gallio was proconsul of Aka wow Okay, the
Jews made an united attack on Paul and brought him
before the tribunal, saying, this man is persuading people to
worship God, contrary to the law. But when Paul was
about to open his mouth, Gallio said to the Jews,
if or a matter of wrongdoing or vicious crime, O Jews,

(19:03):
I would have reason to accept your complaint. But since
it is a matter of questions about words and names
and your own law, see to it yourselves. I refused
to be at judge of these things, and he drove
them from the tribunal, and they all seized Sausines, the
ruler of the synagogue, and beat him in front of
the tribunal, but Gallio paid no attention to any of this.
After this, Paul stayed many days longer, and then took

(19:24):
leave of the brothers and set sail for sail for Syria.
They'll touch yourself and with him Priscilla and Aquilla. At
sun Cree, he had cut his hair, for he was
under a vow. And they came to Ephesus, and he
left them there, But he himself went into the synagogue
and reason with the Jews. When they asked him to
stay for a longer period, he declined, But on taking

(19:44):
leave of them, he said, I will return to you
if God wills, and he set sail from Ephesus. When
he had landed at Cesarea, he went up and greeted
the church, and then went down to Antioch. After spending
some time there, he departed and went from one place
to the next through the region of Galicia and phrygiaing
all the disciples. Now, a ju named Apoulos, a native
of Alexandria, came to Ephesus. He was an eloquent man,

(20:05):
competent in the scriptures. He had been instructed in the
way of the Lord, and being fervent in spirit, he
spoke and taught accurately the things concerning Jesus. Though he
knew only the Baptism of John. He began to speak
boldly in the synagogue. But when Priscilla and Aquila heard him,
they took him aside and explained to him the way
of God more accurately. And when he wished to cross
to a Keia, the brothers encouraged him and wrote to

(20:27):
the disciples to welcome him. When he arrived, he greatly
helped those who, through grace have believed. He powerfully refuted
the Jews in public, showing by the scriptures that the
Christ was Jesus. See. I like this passage because anytime
on Twitter someone tells me, like women Jim be silent
and they shouldn't speak about the Bible, and like ixclose
this passage. Yeah, Now, I wonder if Hebrews is written

(20:49):
by Apollos. That was my other thing of like Priscilla
and Apollos, yeah, or Priscilla and Paul.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
It might be so confusing an authorship because there's two
voices smiling. Because Paul lived with Priscilla and Aquila for
that whole it could have been all three of them
who wrote Hebrews because in this in this context they
are trying to talk to the Jews. And yeah, so
that would make sense. And this is this has been
a fun little money drop. Like it's clearly Priscilla and

(21:20):
Quilla are knowledgeable teachers because they're able to Yeah, I
mean not that the Gospel is difficult at its core,
at its core, no, but but especially the transition from hey,
you have served the Law your entire life, and now
your Messiah is here and what does this mean? I
can understand that being a difficult thing to walk people through.

(21:42):
Would you characterize that as a transition from milk to
solid food? Yes, yes, I think so, especially since so
much of the Law is like metaphor that led into
a deeper understanding of God once you transitioned it from
from the physical metaphor to its spiritual meeting. Galatians talks

(22:02):
about the Law being a guardian for like a non
of age party. So you like a kid who's on milk,
and then you've got us graduating to solid food and
not being a guardian. Having go back to the idea
that we've talked about of like the moral development of humanity,
of like introducing concepts and then and then bringing people

(22:25):
along slowly through the use of metaphor and parable. And
I do think these things. Society hasn't finished morally developing.
And I know this because men still wear those kneehigh
socks with sandals. That's what makes the point. Thank you.
All right, let's get into Leviticus. We are in Leviticus.

(22:47):
We're starting in twelve. Said it real quick, Satyr says
in Chat bread is not that intelligent? Then I I
thought when my mom said at the iq of a
bread that that was a compliment. I now have some questions.
Uh huh, uh huh. But go on, uh huh, speaking
of moms. This we're getting into the law about purification

(23:09):
after childbirth. So this is great timing because I had
suggested that the writer of Hebrews is the mother, and
that we're talking about childbirth. Clinking inkin, I think so sorry,
I think so.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Now.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
I really like the idea of it being Priscilla, either
Priscilla and Paul, or Priscilla and Aquila, or even Priscilla,
Aquilla and Apollo's like some combination of those. But but
I so many people think that it's Paul. Yeah, it
makes me think that maybe Paul is one of the authors. Yeah, Like,

(23:44):
I can see why some of it is Paul, but
it doesn't have the same overall. Right, Yeah, the I
don't think it could possibly be just Paul, And I
think he would have signed his name to it. Like
I understand people being like this, the author wasn't signed
to this so that they could be discredited for this thing,
but like Paul would have signed. Yeah, and it's not
like the doctrine that Paul writes is any less of value. Right.

(24:09):
The only reason I can think of that Paul wouldn't
put his name to it is if it was primarily
not his Yes, and if it was a woman. I'm
just enjoying pushing this the boo where I'm doing it ironically.
I will eventually ironically believe it. I do like the
idea of it being Priscilla and Paul. Yeah, but Paul's
is also an intrigue. And if if Priscilla wrote wrote it,

(24:31):
it seems like Priscilla and Equill were such a unit.
It would be I think strange to me if Aquilla
wasn't also involved. Yeah, well that's what I think of like,
she wasn't. She wasn't saying anything without male headship over it.
So right before they even scandalized. And I'm suggesting awful things,
and and the Holy Spirit is capable of we had
women profits. So yeah, you're gonna be so excited we're

(24:53):
to talk about circumcision. Adverse one. The Lord spoke to
Moses saying, speak to the people of Israel, saying, if
a woman conceives and bears a male child, then she
shall be unclean. Seven daysons are stinky and Chris, yes,
as at the time of her menstruation she she shall
be unclean. And on the eighth day, the flesh of

(25:13):
his foreskin shall be circumcised. Thank you so much for
the five dollars rumble rant variable five five dollars for
the beer fun sir. This is a Bible study, a
Bible study. Thank you. Yeah, I should also say thank you.
I mean I just didn't. But you won't know for
a week. So a little awkward bit of a pause there,

(25:37):
time travel, Liz, will you type in that chat that
we are live responding to their comments in the next
week's recording, because I want them to know. Oh and
on the eighth day, the flesh of his foreskin shall
be circumcised. Then she shall continue for thirty three days
in the blood of her purifying. She shall not touch

(25:58):
anything holy nor come in to the sanctuary until the
days of her purifying are completed. But if she bears
a female child, then she shall be unclean two weeks
as in her menstruation, and she shall continue in the
blood of her purifying for sixty six days. This is
fascinating to me on a couple levels. So if you
don't know, after you give birth, you bleed for a

(26:19):
good period of time. Different women are different, but in
the same way that women were considered unclean and had
to go through the steps of being unclean when they
were on their periods, this period of time is also
in place for that period of time after giving birth,
because she's basically for the same like hygienic reasons, in

(26:43):
the same sort of situation with the bleeding, and they'll
it's called lokia. But also yes, I mean this is
a very intense physical time for her, and I think
this is also God taking care of women and making
it so that men aren't pressuring them to slip with
them until they're healed. Yes, because some and not holments.

(27:03):
Some men, if they didn't have the law stopping them,
would be right pressure. Yeah, yeah, but it is really
fascinating to me that the length of time is doubled
for a woman as for a female child as for
a male child. I think it's my understanding is women
having pregnancies with a female child, there's more estrogen and

(27:26):
it's more exhausting.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Interesting, that's what I've heard. Let me google that real quick. Yeah,
it is. It is interesting. So with a male child,
she gets seven days and then the child gets circumcised,
and then she gets another thirty three days. So that's

(27:48):
that's that's about six weeks. That's about the medical six weeks.
So it's not a definite rule, but it is like
a general theory that a female child is harder because
testosterone is more energizing. Oh, I see, as opposed to
more estrogen. You know how on your period, when you're
like cranky and you feel like really aggressive, that's testosterone.

(28:08):
Your test is testos Your testosterone is hiring that period.
So when you're acting like a B word because of
your period, is because you're acting more mainly, Ah, some
men are always on their period. This has been fun
fact science hours. It's like this is a very feminist
Bible study today. But yeah, I do think this is

(28:30):
in place for the protection of the woman. And I
think that, like, yes, for hygiene reasons, even the periods.
But there before, before I was an adult and like
had work and relationships and stuff, I didn't understand as
much why you had to be unclean for your period.
But now I'm like, because they used to get all

(28:51):
the women who were like all synced up, yeah, in
a tent together while they were all unclean, and they
would just like have a nice time out and I
think eat ice cream. They had ice cream back then,
don't worry about it, yeah, and and not have to
deal with men. And I'm like that sounds so nice. Yeah.
And this too, that they had this period of time

(29:11):
after having the baby and where they were cocooned, where
the time after the birth is to protect the woman.
I do think the period being uncleans to protect the
man from getting murdered.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Verse six. And when the days of her purifying are completed,
whether for a son or for a daughter, she shall
bring to the priest at the entrance of the tent
of meeting a lamb a year old for a burnt offering,
and a pigeon or a turtle dove for a sin offering,
and he shall offer it before the Lord and make
a toonement for her. It's interesting, like it's this isn't
Fridny specific sin, but it is a sin offering of like, yeah,

(29:48):
a burnt screenful to have a baby. It's a burnt offering,
not a sin offering. A pigeon or a turtle dove
for a sin offering. So there's a lambering, oh yeah,
and a pigeon. Okay, interesting, baby's because maybe you say
swear words when you're in labor. Then she shall be
clean from the flow of her blood. This is the
law for her who bears a child, either male or female.

(30:09):
And if she cannot afford a lamb, then she shall
take two to her loves or two pigeons, one for
a burnt offering and the other for a sin offering,
and the priest shall make atonement for her, and she
shall be clean. I do wonder.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
This.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
So we're talking about the moral development of humanity, and
I do wonder if there are things in this law
where the idea of being physically clean and the idea
of being spiritually clean are intertwined at this point that
it isn't until later tell Jesus where he's like, it's
not what goes in your mouth, Yeah, that makes you unclean.

(30:46):
Where he separates out like this is what sin actually
is and people did is a heart thing. Yeah, he
didn't separate out the idea of sin happening in your
mind at all in the law here. Yeah, And so
the idea that like, it's not that she's sinned, it's

(31:07):
that she's not clean, and the idea of clean uncleanness
being sin. You'll get separated out later, but right now,
this is the stage and world development that we're in. Yeah,
because if you're unclean, you're not like God. So you
have fallen short of aware of God.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Right right.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
So much of the law is hygiene stuff is like
physical cleanness type stuff. Cleanliness is next to godliness. I
do think this has to do with like, I think
there are ways that we don't give credit for the
things we understand because there have been generations of understanding

(31:50):
it as opposed to like there are still cultures that
don't seem to understand the concept of hygiene we talked
about this like redditors as a culture, but like there
are whole cultures that that don't. I think we just
talked about this in one of the recent records Wednesday recording. Okay, yeah,

(32:17):
so you'll have heard it now, yes, yes, about cultures
that that are still pooping in their water supply or
near their water supply, and they don't seem to get it,
like they're they're they're being told by Westerners, hey, don't
do that, and they just don't seem to get it.
And so I think that there are ways in which,
like from our perspective, we're like, how could somebody think

(32:41):
that giving birth was a sin or like conflate that
or like not be able to understand it if you
tried to explain it to them. But I think that
you there's like layers of things. There are things that
if you try to teach a child calculus, it's they
could only understand it if they had gotten all the
foundation first, Like you could you could have a prodigy

(33:02):
that understands calculus really early, but not if you haven't
done algebra first. And so there's that those those layers
of stuff. Speaking of bad hygiene, specifically the Ganges. This
is billions of leaders of untreated sewage from densely populated cities, towns,
and villages along the river banks flow into the Ganges daily.

(33:23):
It's levels of fecal colorform bacteria specifically are so high
they sometimes reach hundreds of times the safe bathing standard.
Isn't that fun? And they drink from that river and
bathe in it and wash their clothes in it. So
it's so so so bad, and it's like, how can
people not understand this? But they don't. I had another

(33:44):
thought in my head and I lost it, so maybe
maybe it'll come back to me. Sorry, doesn't happen very often,
so I shouldn't turn that. But I do think that
like the the idea of of germs, Yes, like sinn fantasticizing,
that's a different metaphor, but there are still the idea

(34:08):
of germs spreading and yeast spreading, and that being the
metaphor for sin. I think it does make sense why
God picked this for the like undergirding metaphor for this. Yeah. Okay, also,
though sorry really quick. Before Jesus came, there was like
a certain element of the children being held responsible for
the sins of the father. Oh, so there's like that

(34:30):
attitude that that something about the aspect of other people's
sin kind of falls on you. So maybe in that
set up, even just being tainted by something evil and
wayward like germs, falls on you. Until Jesus came and yeah,

(34:52):
made it clear that it's what happens in there. I
don't know, I'd have to do well. And then then
you get to like the For a really long time,
people thought that germs were demonic. I still sometimes and
there are still cultures that believe that, like sickness is
because of demons, and then you're like, like, wait a second.
So in general, I wouldn't have put it as much
stock by that, but I just remember I've had COVID

(35:14):
a couple times, and I know I've talked about it before,
so I'll be brief, but there was one time I
had COVID where it felt demonic. I have never felt
that way when I was sick before. There was this
dark shroud over me. I genuinely felt like it was
trying to kill my mind, like my spirit, not just
my body. It was after that I'm like, yeah, I
kind of believe it. Literally, some things are demons sing, right, right. Well,

(35:37):
like we've talked about this. We talked about this in
the Luke study, where like Jesus rebukes the fever and
it leaves.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
Wait a second, so it would be it would be
interested if ultimately like cleanness being clean.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Uh is more closely related than we we thought. But anyway,
we'll move on, okay. Chapter thirteen, the Lord spoke to
Moses and Aaron, saying, when a person has on the
skin of his body a swelling or an eruption or
a spot, and it turns into a case of leprous
disease on the skin of his body, then he shall
be brought to erin the priest or to one of
his sons the priest, and the priest shall examine the

(36:18):
diseased area on the skin of his body. And if
the hair in the diseased area has turned white, and
the disease appears to be deeper than the skin of
his body, it is a case of lepross disease. When
the priest has examined him, he shall pronounce him unclean.
But if the spot is white in the skin of
his body, it appears no deeper than the skin, and
the hair in it has not turned white. The priests
shall shut up the diseased person for seven days, and
the priest shall examine him on the seventh day. And

(36:40):
if in his eyes the disease is checked and the
disease is not spread in the skin, then the priest
shall shut him up for another seven days, and the
prees shall examine him again on the seventh day. And
if the diseased area has faded, and the disease has
not spread in the skin, then the priest shall pronounce
him clean. It is only an eruption, and he shall
wash his clothes and be clean. But if the eruption
spreads in the skin he has showed himself to the

(37:00):
priest for his cleansing, he shall appear again before the priest,
and the pre shall look, and if the eruption has
spread in the skin, then the pre shall pronounce them unclean.
It is a leprous disease. I was really disappointed when
I learned that when they say leprosy in the Bible,
they're not talking about what we commonly understand as leprosy.
Hanson's disease. That could be part of it, but this
is like a broader spectrum of things. But I do

(37:21):
think it is really really cool that this cover is
like you could even stephalos could be going around and
there's like a way to keep it from spreading like
wildfarts with these people who don't know what germs are, right, Yes,
and the priests in these cases are acting as like
infectious disease, yeah, experts because of the criteria that God

(37:41):
has given them for for diagnose and like the reference
the reference to like white patches that haven't like that
could even be there's there's a form of like skin
yeast overgrowth that can cause like lighter patches in your
skin like that. So just an eruption. Yeah, So that's
probably not the only thing that's talking about, but it
is interesting speaking of the skin disease turning the hair white.

(38:05):
When I had COVID that ten, it was really awful.
A couple of my eyebrow hairs turned white, oh and
grew back in white several different times before they stopped
coming back. In Weird Okay, verse nine, when a man
is afflicted with a leprous disease, he shall be brought
to the priest and the pre shell look and if
there is a white swelling in the skin that has
turned the hair white, and there is raw flesh in

(38:26):
the swelling. It is a chronic Lepross disease in the
skin of his body, and the pre shehell pronounce him unclean.
He shall not shut him up, for he is unclean.
So that with this criteria, it's like you don't need
to shut him up and keep checking. We already know
it's unclean. Yeah, he doesn't have to go through all that.
And if the lepros disease breaks out in the skin,
so that the lepros disease covers all the skin of
the disease person from head to foot so far as

(38:47):
the priest can see, then the pre shell look and
if the Lepros's disease has covered all his body, he
shall pronounce him clean of the disease. It has all
turned white and he is clean.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
It's like done its full work, I guess. But when
raw flesh appears on him, he shall be unclean. I
wonder if that's kind of like a vital ego sort
of thing. Huh. It's interesting, like God understands these criteria
where he's like, yeah, at this point, he's no longer contagious. Yeah,
and so he doesn't need to suffer because the disease
hasn't doesn't have anything to have a foothold on, so

(39:17):
it can't. It's probably died out. Yeah, And the pre
shall examine the raw flesh and pronounce him unclean. Raw
flesh is unclean, for it is a leprous disease. But
if the raw flesh recovers and turns white again, then
he shall come to the priest, and the pre shall
examine him. And if the disease is turned white, then
the pre shell shall pronounce the disease person clean. He
is clean. If there is in the skin of one's
body a boil and it heals, and in the place

(39:38):
of the boil there comes a white swelling or a
reddish white spot, then it shall be shown to the priest,
and the pre shehell look. And if it appears deeper
than the skin, and its hair has turned white, then
the pre shall pronounce him unclean. It is a case
of leprous disease that has broken out in the boil,
ursa or something h But if the priest examines it
and there is no white hair in it, and it
is not deeper than the skin, but has faded, then

(40:00):
the pre shall shut them up seven days, and if
it spreads in the skin, then the pre shall pronounce
them unclean. It as a disease. So it's not saying
that it's all the same disease. It's just saying, like
the different markers of lapros diseases is an overarching thing.
You'll see these traits in a bad disease. These traits fine,
But if the spot remains in one place and does
not spread, it is a scar of the boil, and

(40:21):
the pre shall pronounce him clean. So it's like, don't worry,
you have hyperpigmentations there, but we're not going to keep
you lockers. You don't understand like God understood this stuff.
To me, almost nobody, it seems, uses these as proofs
of God's existence in Godhood. But it feels like this

(40:41):
this stuff is like pretty solid proof that somebody who
wrote in his time period would have this level of understanding.
And I think it's interesting because I know a lot
of teens nowadays will often have a lot of ACME
in their growing up years. So if you put them
in that period, they be locked up a lot. But
I wonder if locking up one team with the acone

(41:04):
keeps other teams from kidding if if it spreads more
from person to person than maybe we quite realize. Ooh,
I know that, like when you touch your face, Yeah,
you can spread it around your face. Yeah, that's why
I just evenly spread yeah. Verse twenty four. Or when
the body has a burn on its skin, and the
raw flesh of the burn becomes a spot, reddish, white,

(41:26):
or white, a pre shall examine it. And if the
hair in the spot is turned white, and it appears
deeper than the skin, then it is a lepros disease.
It has broken out in the burn, and the pre
shall pronounce him unclean. It is a case of lepros disease.
But if the priest examines it and there is no
white hair in the spot, and it is no deeper
than the skin, but has faded, the pre shall shut
him up seven days, and the pre shall examine him
the seventh day. If it is spreading in the skin,

(41:47):
then the pre shall pronounce him unclean. It is a
case of lepros disease. But if the spot remains in
one place, it does not spread in the skin, but
has faded, it is a swelling from the burn, and
the priest shall pronounce him clean, for it is the
scar of the burn. A man or woman has a
disease on the head or the beard, the priest shall
examine the disease, and if it appears deeper than the skin,
and the hair in it is yellow and thin, then

(42:08):
the priest shall pronounce him unclean. It is an itch,
a leprous disease of the head or the beard. And
if the priest examines the itching disease and it appears
no deeper than the skin, how much you know, and
there is no black hair in it, then the pries
shall shut up the person with the itching disease for
seven days. And on the seventh day, the pre shall
examine the disease. If the itch has not spread, and
there is in it no yellow hair, and the itch

(42:29):
appears to be no deeper than the skin, then he
shall shave himself. But the itch he shall not shave,
and the price shall shut up the person with the
itching disease for another seven days. And on the seventh
day the priest shall examine the itch. And if the
itch has not spread in the skin, and it appears
to be no deeper than the skin, then the pree
shall pronounce him clean, and he shall wash his clothes
and be clean. But if the itch spreads in the
skin after his cleansing, then the priest shall examine him.

(42:52):
And if the itch is spread in the skin, the
priest need not seek for the yellow hair. He is unclean.
But if in his eyes the itch is unchanged, and
the black hair has grown in it, and the itch
is heel, then he is clean, and the priest shall
pronounce him clean. When a man or a woman has
spots on the skin of the body, white spots, the
priest shall look. And if the spots on the skin
of the body are of a dull white, it is
leucaderma that has broken out on the skin. He is clean.

(43:14):
If a man's hair falls out from his head, he
is bald, he is clean. I love that. It's just like,
don't worry. Oh, so lucoderma is videlago is one of
the things that can cause lucoderma. Okay, so it is
the disappearance a pigment, so acad Oh. And if a
man's hair falls out from his forehead, he has baldness

(43:36):
of the forehead, he is clean. But if there is
on the bald head or the bald forehead, a reddish
white diseased area. It is a lepross disease breaking out
on his bald head or his bald forehead, then the
pre shall examine him. And if the disease swelling is
reddish white on his bald head or on his bald forehead,
like the appearance of a lepress disease in the skin
of the body, he is a lepros man. He is unclean.
The priest must pronounce him unclean. His disease is on

(43:57):
his head diagnosis bald and lepress rough. The lepross. Person
who has the disease shall wear torn clothes and let
the hair of his head hang loose, and he shall
cover uh. He shall cover his upper lip and cry
out unclean. Unclean. He shall remain unclean as long as
he has the disease. He is unclean. He shall live alone.
His dwelling shall be outside the camp, so he has

(44:17):
to when he's around any people, he has to signal
to them not to come near him. And this is
this is quarantine for an infectious disease. It's not to
be cruel to these people. It's to make it so
that not everyone gets this right. When there is a
case of Lepros's disease in a garment, whether a woolen
or a linen, garment, in warp or wolf of linen

(44:38):
or wool, or in a skin, or in anything made
of skin. If the disease is greenish or reddish in
the garment, or in the skin, or in the warp
or the wolf, or that's weaving terminals are different, ambrosia,
ambrosia weaves. She'll recognize this, or in any article made
of skin. It is a case of Lepross disease. And
it shall be shown to the priest. And if and
the priest shall examine the disease and shut up that

(45:00):
which has the disease for seven days, then he shall
examine the disease on the seventh day. If the disease
is spread in the garment, in the warp or the woof,
or in the skin, whatever be the use of the skin,
the disease is a persistent Lepross disease. It is unclean,
and he shall burn the garment or the warp, or
the woof, the wool, or the linen, or any article
made of skin that is diseased, for it is a
persistent lepros disease. It shall be burned in the fire.

(45:21):
Then might also be referring to like mold and stuff. Well,
I think there's a separate place that's going to be
talking about mold. Mold. Yeah. And if the priest examines,
and if the disease has not spread in the garment,
in the warp, or the woof, or in any article
made of skin, then the priest shall command that they
wash the thing in which is the disease, and he
shall shut it up for another seven days. And the

(45:42):
priest shall examine the disease thing after it has been washed.
And if the appearance of the disease area has not changed,
though the disease is not spread, it is unclean, you
shall burn it in the fire. Whether the rot is
on the back or on the front. But if the
priest examines, and if the diseased area has faded after
it has been washed, and he shall tear it out
of the garment or the skin, or the warp or
the wolf. Then if it appears again in the garment,

(46:04):
in the warp, or the woof, or in any article
made of skin, it is spreading, you shall burn with
fire whatever has the disease, but the garment or the
warp or the wolf, or any article made of skin
from which the disease departs. When you have watched it
shall be then shall then be washed a second time
and be clean. This is the law for our case
of Lepros's disease in a garment of wool or linen,
either in the warp or the woof, or in any
of any article made of skin, to determine whether it

(46:26):
is clean or unclean. I've said this in the previous
but there is so much repetition so that it is
so that it is easily memorized, so that they don't
get this stuff wrong. Yeah, so you just know off
the top of your head what you're talking about. Yeah, yep,
okay um. Oh, we're not as far along as I thought.
We can keep going, yeap. Chapter fourteen, the Lord spoke

(46:48):
to Moses, saying, this shall be the law of the
leprous person. For the day of his cleansing, he shall
be brought to the priest, and the priest shall go
out of the camp, and the priest shall look. Then,
if the case of Lepros's disease is healed in the
lepross person, the priest shall command them to take for
him who is to be cleaned two live clean birds
and cedar wood and scarlet yarn and his up.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
I have to pause.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
I thought we were really close to being done on it.
I was like, I can hold it, and like.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
Why am I still here and waiting for this? It's
not everything I love about. You are probably mad because
it never happen. Uh uhh.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
Y h.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
Do you want to build the meat man? Do you
want to be the millmen? Kind of rude? But okay, hello, good,
let me know we're back. And the pre shall command

(50:42):
them to kill one of the birds in an earthenware
vessel over fresh water. He shall take the live bird
with the cedar wood and the scarlet yarn and the
hiss up and dip them and the live bird in
the blood of the bird that was killed over the
fresh water, and he shall sprinkle it seven times on
him who is to be cleansed of the leprous disease. Growl,
excuse me, right, this is so random. Then he shall
pronounce some clean and shall let the living bird go

(51:03):
into the open field. Sounds like I have not coming
back here, but yeah, it seems like the metaphor is
something in regard to like this thing has kept you bound,
like imprisoned in this disease. And so this the ritual
of of the cleansing is like the bird goes free

(51:28):
after the other bird gives its life for it. Yeah,
and it's like covered in the other bird's blood, right, right,
it's a fresh water. I'm the hsup, I mean the
hiss up was used. Yeah, it's like a good for

(51:49):
sprinkling blood. Yeah, it is good for sprinkling blood. And
it's the plant that was commanded to be used in
Egypt to paint the blood on the door frames the
scarlet yarn. I'm I'm not sure. This seems to be
like a really complex metaphor and symbolism, and I'm I'm
not sure I understand all of it. But ah, okay.

(52:14):
Verse eight. And he who is to be cleansed shall
wash his clothes and shave off all his hair, and
bathe himself in water, and he shall be clean. And
after that he may come into the camp, but live
outside his tent seven days. And on the seventh day
he shall shave off all his hair from his head,
his beard, and his eyebrows. He shall shave off all
his hair, and then he shall wash his clothes and
bathe his body and water and he shall be clean.

(52:34):
So it's like that extra level of like, you're not
contagious per se, but these are, I mean not quite
not contagious yet. Yeah, taking measures to like completely get
whatever it is off of you. Yeah, so no trace remains.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
And on the eighth day, he shall take two male
lambs without blemish, in one you lambing year old without blemish,
in a grain offering of three tons of any fine
flahmix with oil, and one log of oil. And the
priest who cleanses him shall set the man who is
to be cleansed and these things before the Lord at
the entrance of the tent of meeting, And the priest
shall take one of the mail lambs and offer it
for a guilt offering, along with the log of oil,
and wave them for a wave offering before the Lord.

(53:09):
And he shall kill the lamb in the place where
they kill the sin offering and the burnt offering in
the place of the sanctuary for the gill's offering. Like
the sin offering belongs to the priest, it is most holy.
The priest shall take some of the blood of the
guilt offering and the priest shall put it on the
lobe of the right ear of him who is to
be cleansed, and on the thumb of his right hand,
and on the big toe of his right foot. So
same botom set up as the ordination. Then the priest

(53:30):
shall take some of the log of oil and pour
it into the palm of his own left hand, and
dip his right finger in the oil that is on
his left hand, and sprinkles from the oil with his
finger seven times before the Lord. And some of the
oil that remains in his hand, the priest shall put
on the lobe of the right ear of him who
is to be cleansed, and on the thumb of his
right hand, and on the big toe of his right foot,
on the top of the blood of the sin offering,
on top of the blood of the guilts offering. Sorry. Yeah,

(53:52):
And the rest of the oil that is in the
priest's hand he shall put on the head of him
who is to be cleansed. Then the priest shall make
a torment for him before the Lord. So the anointing
with oil is also similar to the priest priesthood or nation. Yeah,
just really similar parallels. And I'm not entirely sure I
understood why verse nineteen, The priest shall offer this an

(54:13):
offering to make atonement for him who is to be
cleansed from his uncleanness. This is I think the same
as as the woman being cleansed from childbirth. That the
leprous person hasn't done anything wrong. They've been sick, yeah,
but it is separated them from God.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Right.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
Yeah. And afterward he shall kill the burnt offering, and
the pre shall offer the burnt offering and the green
offering on the altar. Thus the pre shall make atonement
for him, and he shall be clean. What I don't think, like,
if you have a there are two ways you could
look at this. If there is a God fearing person

(54:52):
who gets leprosy and keeps the law within his lepross disease, yeah,
outside the camp doesn't violate, It doesn't make other people unclean.
I think he's right before God, right, I think this.
Or you could argue because there's lots of instances of
God bringing leprosy down on somebody as a as a punishment,

(55:15):
and so perhaps the whole reason that he has leprosy
is because he's not right before God, because there's a
sin that hasn't been dealt with. Also, this could be
recognizing without having laid out again the whole sin of
the mind, it's to be recognizing that when you're in
these positions, you are more likely to commit a lot
of sin of the mind of like grumbling against the

(55:35):
lord or oh, I'm just yeah. Maybe the other thing
I wondered if of like, if somebody has has like
you've said, one of the lepros diseases could have been syphilis.
I just suggested. I mean, I was thinking, you have
an STD that can cause like skin sores and stuff.

(55:56):
I don't know, I wondered. I wondered if if like
what is manifesting as some of these diseases were sinful,
and it was it was a way of like got
exposing You're seeing physically what the spiritual sin was. Yeah,
because I'm curious to see what our micro biome issues

(56:19):
are compared to back then. So syphilis wouldn't have been
in specifically syphilis that came over from South America from
when Columbus went and they didn't have it in Europe beforehand.
And do you know what had syphilis in South America?
A certain type of animal llamas Lama's lovely. Oh we

(56:40):
love that, okay, Verse twenty one. But if he is
poor and cannot afford so much, then he shall take
one male lamb for a guilt offering, to be waived
to make atonement for him in a tenth of an
efa of fine flower mixed with oil for a green offering,
and a long of oil. Also two turtle loves or
two pigeons, whichever he can afford. The one shall be
a sin offering and the other a burnt off ring.
And in the eighth day he shall bring them for

(57:02):
his cleansing to the priest the entrance of the tentive
meeting before the Lord. There's a lot of provisions along
these lines of like, this is the standard offering, and
if you can't afford it, here's the substitution. And if
you can't afford that, here's a substitution. I appreciate that,
and I think it's also worth noting that like, God
is never going to leave you unprovided for, to be

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right with him. Yeah, So I don't think there'll ever
be anyone who didn't have any of these things, because
God would ensure that the head was needed. Yeah, And
the priest shall take the lamb of the guilt offering
and the log of oil, and the priest shall wave
them for a wave offering before the Lord, and he
shall kill the lamb of the guilt offering. And the
priest shall take some of the blood of the guilt
offering and put it on the lobe of the right

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ear of him who is to be cleansed, and on
the thumb of his right hand, and on the big
toe of his right foot, And the preece shall pour
some of the oil into the palm of his own
left hand, and shall sprinkle with his right finger some
of the oil that isn't in his left hand seven
times before the Lord. And the priest shall put some
of the oil that is in his hand on the
lobe of the right ear of him who is to
be cleansed, and on the thumb of his right hand,
and on the big twelve his right foot, in the
place where the blood of the gill's offering was put.

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And the rest of the oil that is in the
priest's hand he shall put on the head of him
who has to be cleansed, to make atonement for him
before the Lord, and he shall offer up the turtle
doves or pigeons, whichever he can afford, one for us
an offering, and the other for a burnt offering, along
with a grain offering. And the priest shall make a
toment before the Lord for him who is being cleansed.
This is the law for him in whom is a
case of Lepros's disease, who cannot afford the offerings for

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his cleansing. Verse thirty three. The Lord is spoke to
Moses and Aaron, saying, when you come into the land
of Canaan, which I give you for a possession, and
I put a case, and I put a case a
leprous disease, and a house in the land of your possession.
Who so there is that level of God doing this
which is interesting to me. Then he who owns the

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house shall come and tell the priest there seems to
me to be a case of disease in my house.
Then the priest shall command that they empty the house
before the priest goes to examine the disease. Lust all
that is in the house declared unclean. And afterward the
priest shall go in to see the house, and he
shall examine the disease. And if this is the diseases
in the walls of the house with greenish or reddish spots,
and if it appears to be deeper than the surface,

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and the pre shall go out of the house to
the door of the house and shut up the house
seven days. And the pre shall come again on the
seventh day, and look. If the disease is spread in
the walls of the house, then the priest shall command
that they take out the stones in which is the disease,
and throw them into an unclean place outside the city.
And he shall have the outside of the house scraped
all yes, sorry, inside of the house scraped all around.

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In the plaster that they scrape off, they shall pour
out in an unclean place outside the city. Then they
shall take other stones and put them in the place
of those stones, and he shall take other plaster and
plaster the house. I think it's interesting because I don't
know of too many diseases that would infect your house
as well visibly, so I wonder if some of the
stuff they're dealing with is just not what we would have,
like there's more of a supernatural element to it maybe,

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or different different germs that have been eradicated because of
these practices. Because there's there's there's been a lot of
turnover as far as what diseases we deal with now
is opposing what they dealt with a couple hundred years ago.
If the disease breaks out again in the house after
he has taken out the stones and scraped the house
and plastered it, then the priest shall go and look.
And if the disease is spread in the house, it

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is a persistent, leprous disease. In the house, it is unclean,
and he shall break down the house its stones and timber,
and all the plaster of the house, and he shall
carry them out of the city to an unclean place. Moreover,
whoever enters the house wall is shut up, shall be
unclean until the evening. And whoever sleeps in the house
shall wash his clothes, and whoever eats in the house
shall wash his clothes. I'm sorry, Bill, I can't come
into work. My house has leprosy. But if the priest

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comes and looks, and if the disease is not spread
in the house after the house was plastered, then the
priest shall pronounce the house clean. For the disease is healed,
and for the cleansing of the house he shall take
two small birds with cedar wood and scarlet ron and
hiss up. And he shall kill one of the birds
in an earthenware vessel over fresh water, and shall take
the cedar wood and the hiss and the scarlet ron,
along with the live bird, and dip them in the
blood of the bird that was killed, and in the

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fresh water, and sprinkle the house seven times. That thus
shall he Thus he shall cleanse the house with the
blood of the bird, and with a fresh water, and
with the live bird, and with the cedar wood and
his scarlet yarn. And he shall let the live bird
go out of the city into the open country. So
he shall make atonement for the house, and it shall
be clean. This is the law for any case of
leprous disease, for an itch for Lepros's disease in a

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garment or in a house, and for a swelling or
an eruption or a spot to show when it is unclean,
and when it is clean. This is the law for
a leprous disease.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
It is.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
You might be right that some of this is mold.
I thought that there was a separate and we'll see
this stuff for mold. But I could be wrong. We'll
find out, I guess. Yeah. I do think it's interesting
that these are things are talking about as cleansing the house. Yeah,
so either it could be referted like there's some antimicrobial
properties in this, or there is something more supernatural to this,

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where this act of obeying God and doing this thing
cleanses the rest of the evil out of it. Yeah.
Now I'm really curious what all the legal commentary in
the torus says another toy the thank you. Yeah, this
is interesting stuff, but it shows a complex understanding of

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of infectious disease in humans in garments, are any cloth things,
skin things u and in and houses Yeah there was
stone and plaster houses. So and maybe even an understanding
of if maybe if you're if some of this is

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talking about mold, like your house is moldy, it is
affecting you because it Yeah, there's a lot of bit
like black mold toxicity in a house. Also, did you know, uh,
citric acid there's a natural form and then the artificial
citric acid that they make is a byproduct of black mold. Yeah,

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and they say it's not toxic, but there's like some
potential issues from it. And so now I'm kind of like,
are there some things in our food that are just
why would you Why would you make anything from black mole?
Because that's super toxic? Why would you do that? It
is funny. There's so much of like avoid this thing
and avoid this thing, and that's like what if like

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way more things, Like even if we avoided these things,
we're still not living healthy because there's just way too much.
That's also, it's not Espergillous Niger it's Espergili's flavus or is,
So it's not quite black mole. It's the same family,
but it's the same. Yeah. Interesting, Yeah, what We're sorry
what we're saying. No, that's all, but like the the whole,

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Like I think there's like a push in kind of
the Maha movement. There are things I really like about
the Moha movement. There are things that I do that
are you know, that I subscribe to, But some of
them I think there's a push to like purify our
cells through food and purify our cells through this. Like

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there's some of this almost attempt to return like we've
we've gone through a period of godly godlessness and now
as a culture, people are like I need to clean myself. Yeah,
I need to find a way to be clean. Mh.
Because I'm sick. I think there's a lot of people
who are realizing, like I'm sick, I have these autoimmune issues,

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I have this said that I'm sick and I need
to fix my food and I need to do X
y Z to not be sick, and and so it's
it's almost like starting again. Some people are starting kind
of at this sort of baseline with their moral development
of like realizing that they're sick and sinful and the
need of a savior. But that's where they're starting. So

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I think that's an interesting development and culture development in
our culture. Liz, would you pray to rap I'm just
so boring, Lord Jesus, thank you so much that you
love us and that you take care of us, that
you took care of the Israelites even before they understood
all this microbeal stuff. Would ask that you help us

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to understand your reading in these passages, to ponder what
that would apply to us today, because obviously we don't
follow those forms of a lot, but there's still something
to take from it because you you put it down,
and I asked you just watch out for all our viewers,
bring them closer to you. Help any searching loss souls
who might be here, who might not follow you, to
see your beauty and your glory and your grace and

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to get to know you. And I proas amen, Amen,
And I had to make this stoke before we left
out the next uh liviting His fifteen is where we're
picking up next time, And the heading says laws about
bodily discharges. Whoa, that's probably where we're gonna get more
of the venereal just lose. So this is where I'm like,
so excited, so excited for next part of Leviticus because

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this is what we get to talk about up pus
and oozing and things. Yeah, yes, so so tune in
next time for that. What a what a cliffhanger, right,
can't wait? I love you all, blessed and good night

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