Leviticus and Hebrews: Part Seven

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Yeah, YouTube's always the slowest, like your mom, Hello, and

(01:06):
welcome to the Leviticus Hebrews Bible Study Ebriticus. I forgot
what we no wrong questions Bible Study. That's what the
Bible Study is called. We are Live with you on
a Thursday night, which is just we are usually live
on a Thursday night, but we are not usually Live
with Bible Study on Thursday night, fresh nut canned Bible Study,

(01:28):
fresh not canned Bible Study, which I have missed, Like
Bible studies really the most fun when I get to
we get to talk with you. So when what had
happened was when we went to record, we were supposed
to record last Friday, Liz's ghost show, her one ghost

(01:48):
show and a Bible Study, and what happened was her
one show turned into two shows. And by the time
we finished recording those, John was like, use helped me
with the babies because it's bedtime, because like four and
a half hours of that was a lot of recording.
And so we decided to do the Bible Study Life
with You on Thursday night instead of our normal Thursday

(02:11):
fair which if you are like, why have they been
so weird about scheduling lately. You missed the episode where
we talked about why we were going to be weird
with schedulers. We'll keep saying this so that people who
haven't heard it will hear it. My husband John is
joining the National Guard. He's in the process. He was
supposed to swear in this week, but the government shut
down delayed him a little bit. But he's still supposed

(02:33):
to be swearing in very soon, at which point we
will get a date for when he's going to basic
and at that point he will be gone for an
extended period of time. And basically we just don't want
to commit to putting out any content. We may we
hope it. Probably he's joining the what you know what

(02:58):
he's joining very well, you've better around the KKK, the
West Virginia National Guard. Yes, so, I mean, uh, there's
going to be a period of time where I am
alone with babies, with you know, some family support, and
Liz and I very well may uh put out conteent,

(03:22):
but we don't want to commit to it. We don't.
I don't need that stress. But in my life, in
the meantime, I have been show writing like a person
on crack cocaine, because now I have show notes ready
for potentially another two parter, like not as a person

(03:42):
on cocaine. I have not been on crack cocaine. She
has not. The government shutdown, stop my surpise. We feel
the need to clarify this at the top of a
of a Bible study. Also speaking of Bible Study, I
did not know at the beginning of this week if
I would make it to this live recording of the
Bible Study, because on my way home on Friday, Uh,

(04:03):
do you mind if I just take the floor from
my floor, So let's drive in on a back road
right as one does. And I was maybe a zoning
out just a tiny bit in my head. I wasn't
like distracted looking, but I just all of a sudden,
my brain was like, oh, there's four deer across the road,
like big deer, the one that was in my lane
looking right at me. And my soul was this big
book with a full rack, and I just like accepted

(04:24):
my fate. I was like, yeah, I'm gonna hit that deer,
but I should probably try to stop anyway so that
I'm not hitting it at full speed. But I was like, yeah, no,
my car's not like I just except I didn't even
have to be afraid. I was just like this, this
is what it is, This is what and I slammed
on the brake and then my control arm snapped on
my car, which scared the deer away, I think, because
I didn't hit the deer, and but I thought my

(04:46):
tire had exploded, so I was like, better stop breaking,
and then I just like limped into beside someone's driveway,
like it was a perfect spot to break down because
it was a really windy back road with no shoulder,
and I was able to pull off beside someone's driveway
so I wasn't blocking them. The last time I was
when my other control arm broke from ale so and

(05:08):
they heard it happen from like the house up two
hundred three hundred feet off the road. But the funny
thing was there was a truck passing me in the
other direction that was like burning diesel in this big
black cloud. So they hear this really loud, loud sound
and they come down and all they see is black smoke.
So they were probably just like assuming I was dead,
so I hear shouting before I even saw them, but

(05:29):
initially so like, yeah, I thought I burst my tower
and then I get out and I look around and
I'm like, where's the damage. And then I realized the
wheels like crammed up into the wheel well because I
was hearing like a grating sound. Anyway, that's neither hear another.
Triple A covered my trip to the garage and my
car got fixed. Yep, what was it like? I got
dropped off Friday, so that was like the garage was
closed eight am. The garage opened on Monday. I got

(05:51):
the call at eight seventeen, up at the estimate, and
then they fixed it by twelve the next day. Oyay,
that's a long story. This episode brought to you by
Triple A. Exactly. We had Triple A for years. Liz
and I have our mom kind of reaps it for us,
kind of as a Christmas present, one of our Christmas
presents every year. It's not usually our only Christmas present,

(06:14):
but we also get one life. I feel like it's
usually like one of Yeah, they'll get other things too, yeah,
but it's like the big important we're taking care of you.
This is a practical but very important gift. Yeah. Yeah.
So we've had Triple A for years, and every two
or three years something happens, and it's like, well, I'm

(06:37):
glad I have yeah, and should I forget what I
was going to say? Oh yeah, they keep not sending
me my cards. I'd use Abbyes, So I was briefly Abagailippi. Yeah. Yeah,
but y'ah all have to say God took care of me.
I'm glad that didn't happen on the highway. It was
probably bound to happen, so I imagine God put those
deer there so I would break And I honestly like,

(06:57):
if I had hit that deer, I think it would
totaled the car, Like, I don't think it would have
been fixable. Engine. When you told me something happened to
your car, yeah, I was like, this is it. She's yeah,
her car is gone because it's such an old car,
it really is. It's two thousand and seven. Poor focus.
But yeah, initially so because I couldn't see what it
even happened, because when I broke my control on the

(07:18):
last time I had turned my car and then the
wheels kind of fell off a little bit, so it
was kind of like you could see, oh, yeah, it's
not supposed to do that. So I really wasn't sure.
And one of the dudes that came down to help me,
he crawled sort of under where he could get a picture,
and that's how I saw what was broken. And I
thought it was the frame at first, and I was like,
oh good, can you just turn around while I cry
real quick? But it was fixable. But I was shocked.

(07:41):
I was so shocked that it ended up being like
not not too expensive, not too bad. The owner of
the garage called me with the estimate. He was like,
before I tell you the estimate, you really should get
a car in the next year or so because the
rest is getting to it. And I was like, what
gave it away? Keep it away? Breaking the back. When
I apply the break, things snapped. That shouldn't Yeah, right,

(08:04):
eating my lip bom. Anyway, I'm gonna eat on your cars.
Will know for selection service it could now vote. You
can vote an eighteen right, yeah, I get eighteen and
twenty one mixed up at the eighteen. M Oh yeah
two thousand and seven? Is it nineteen? No? No, I
can't do math. It's eighty Okay, I was right initially. Okay, anyway,

(08:27):
shout out to everyone in the chat. We've got variable,
We've got this laurna dune person, I think mods should
have taken care of that's a lot of spam. Answered
Satyr is driving, answered Statter, don't do what I do
and hit the b R E a K pedal instead
of the b R A key key. Wow. Okay, I

(08:48):
I'm not a cocaine but I should be. I'm not
owned cocaine, but I should. Your cars is being drafted
for the war in Ukraine. Yes. Actually I did get
a weird letter in the mail the day thank you
for the fall from conservan On, which is a very
fun handle. Annie is here from Australia, Guys, Austria. I

(09:10):
am still unsure if I think Australia is real. Annie.
We need we need to hear from you on this
is it real? And then I'm hearing in the chat
that she's upside down, Her embojis are upside down, everything's
upside down. Grincess is here in the chair, Ancess, how
are ye? I feel like there's like Rumble's telling me

(09:30):
there's one more chat, but I can't see it. Okay,
maybe Rumbles it was from of her lives. All right,
we should probably get into Bible setting wells. We pray
for us. Yes, well, Jesus, thank you so much for
this day. Thank you that I got here safely, and
thank you that I did not die or my car
didn't die, and that it's fixed already, and thank you
that John gets to move into this new exciting part

(09:52):
of life. I pray that everything goes smoothly, especially with
the government shutdown, and I pray that we have all
the provision we need, and also all of our viewers
have all the they need. And I asked that as
we go over your word today, that we don't wander
into error, but that we learn more about what you
would have us to learn. And I'm prowled us into this. Amen. Amen.
I am finding more and more that I am frightened

(10:12):
of going wrong theologically in a way that I never
have been before. And the reason for that is that
I've continued to see where theological error leads more and
more of the fruit of theological air. I used to think, Oh,
you could just be wrong no about the Bible, and
it's not a big deal, and I don't. I kind
of think that that we're reaching a point in the

(10:35):
timeline and I could be wrong with this easily, could
be wrong with this. Maybe I was just naive ten
twenty years ago, thinking it wasn't that big of a
deal when it always was a big deal. But it
feels like it's becoming a big deal. I I feel
potentially wasn't before. It feels like there's more of a dividing,
like like what Jesus talks about when he says he

(10:56):
comes to set brother against brother, and yeah, mofinitly feels
like the picture side and there is a good side
and a bad side, and there are certain theologies that
don't like I'm watching it happen right now where there
are certain theologies that are more and more commonly landing
on the wrong side because they leave the door open.

(11:17):
So it's not everybody in the reformed post milk crowd
that's falling into this, but I'm seeing a lot of
the reform post milk crowd falling into really bad stuff.
I'm seeing a lot of Catholics fall into really bad stuff.
I'm seeing a lot. I mean, there's much has been
made about the more liberal Protestant The Methodists are gone,

(11:48):
the Episcopals are gone, a bunch of those so so,
and and there's I think there's a difference between a
church that just like more and more stops preaching the
word relaxes, right, it's lukewarm gets lukewarm, stops caring what
God said and and doing more just feel good messages.

(12:12):
I feel like that's a slightly different thing than actual
like a church that's preaching theology thick stuff just a second,
let me preach, like, but they're preaching a theology that's
opening the door to It's it's a wrong theology in
my opinion, but it's the thing that's opening the door

(12:35):
to sinful other like incorrect ideologies in a different way
than just like liberalism in general church, you know what
I mean, something more pernicious and hidden. Yeah, oh, I
briefly forgot my thing. So you know the chapter in Revelation,
I forget which one of the letters to the Angels
of the Church as it is might be the first

(12:56):
one even where God says, you know, if you're luke warm,
I will spit you out. It does kind of feel
like this is a period of people getting sped out
where you see more like almost overt demonization. I'm specifically
thinking of Joel Webbon and Candace Owens, especially Candace Owens,
did you see what she said that's going around today.
I don't know exactly what day she said it where
she called this Jewish guy subhuman and yeah, Josh Hammer

(13:19):
was a great Yeah, unlike Armie Hammer, who is she
called subhamen and filth and it was it was wild.
But like no, I am seeing more and more people
who So there, there's okay, we're getting a little bit
lost in this hospital. Go here and you'll get back
to it. Hey, Agathusia Asia showed up while we were yeah,

(13:43):
going on and on. There's God says to Abraham in Genesis,
those who bless your descendants will be blessed, and those
who curse your descendants will be cursed. So there's already
like a slight question mark if he means the Jews specifically,
because more people descended from Abraham than just the Jews,

(14:03):
because all Christians are spiritual descendants of Abraham. Or are
you talking about yes, yeah, Ishmael, well yeah, Ishmael. And
I believe he had after Sarah died, he had another
wife and he had children by her as well. I
forgot all about that. But I think that the general

(14:24):
Christian debate isn't really about any of them. It's about
whether we're talking about physical Israel, like the actual DNA
descended from Abraham, or if we're talking about spiritual Israel,
or if like that changed at some point along the line.
And then even if it is physical Israel, is the

(14:46):
current nation of Israel the same as what is meant
by that. So there's there are people who say it's
a one to one ratio. If you bless the nation
of Israel I as led by Netanyaho, you will be blessed,
and if you curse that nation, you will be cursed.

(15:07):
I think that that is incorrect. But I think that
if you are cursing the Jews, like in general, because
there are Arabs who live in Israel, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I think that it's a fine line because Israel is
the only state that the Jews have. Every other like

(15:29):
place where Jews are, they're like outsiders. One point that
people have made that I did know this, but it
just kind of synthesized it is that part of the
reason it's not just that they're Jews, that that Islam
hates them so much, it's that they see Jews as
like this lower subhuman and they cannot stand that they
have sovereignty sovereignty over a state that they consider to

(15:52):
have been their land before. Once a land is owned
by anyone Islamic, they believe that they have like they
never lose. It's the land, for which is why they
claim to still own Spain. They claim to be like
indigenous to Spain. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot with Islam
that you should talk about more on the channel. Yes,
so really good because I looked up the Abraham think
he had eight biological sons, so it will be six

(16:14):
with Katura. But there is some tradition that identifies Catura
with Hagar, and there's I guess some scriptrole support for
both views of oh several lady, or that he actually
properly married Hagar. Yes, Sarah died, so I want to
look into that at some point. That would be very curiosity.
I would I would appreciate that, I think if that
was the case. Yeah, there is a sort of satisfactory
noess to that. And he says lots of interesting theological debates.

(16:37):
But I noticed one side is very angry and aggressive
with the people that disagree with them. Yeah. I think
there's there's a weird kind of jealousy that Christians seem
to have towards the Jewish people, as if God can't
be good to us and a perfect savior to us
and properly love us if he still has a plan

(16:59):
to redeem the Wish people the way that the Bible
says that he does so. But I all that to say,
I do think that on an individual level, when you,
as a person, as Candice, for example, curses the Jews,

(17:20):
I think we're watching her be cursed. Yeah, she is
losing her mind. And I think that I've seen a
lot of people note this of like huh, because we've
I've always wondered it is like is that do you
mean monetarily? Do you like? What is this curse? What
is this blessing? But it seems, at least in part,
to be if you curse the Jews, you lose your mind. Well,

(17:42):
and I'm going to actually explore that a little bit
in the Exorcism episode of like when you come outside
of God's protection, you are exposed to demintic iniveuences. Yeah spoilers, Yeah, okay, yes,
to loop back in, I have found I have I've
been reading the Bible my whole life, been the church

(18:03):
my whole life, and I've read the Bible front to
back many times, but really really like whenever I read Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy,
it was always just get through it. Yeah, it was like,
let me read three chapters in a day, just like
zoom through this and not get it, not understand it.

(18:26):
But the more I'm really studying Leviticus, the more I'm
in some of my private study, I'm studying more of
the minor prophets. I decided to start. I always when
I read through the Bible, I always start at the
beginning and go through. But I was really I wanted

(18:49):
to do that, but I really wanted to read the
minor prophets. So I was like, what if I start
at the end of the Old Testament, I go backwards
to the Old Testament, So it's ever bringing back to front, sorry,
front to back, reading it back to front, but middle middle,
middle to front, and then probably revelation back through something
like that. That's the plan. So I'm in. I'm in Ezekiel,

(19:11):
which is fun because I'm revisiting Ezekiel. We did Ezekiel together,
we ended we finished it up around this time last year.
I want to say with you guys, so yes, looking
at chat Luzy Merch. I'm just like slack job reading Chat.
I have forgotten how to be live, but I know

(19:35):
I imagine chat. I'm sorry. Yeah, No, I found the
more I study the Old Testament, the more the New
Testament opens up to me. And I think that there's
a lot of people who don't understand that Christians who
are like the important Like the Old Testament's just the
Old Testament there, the important part is the New Testament.
The important part is Jesus. And yes, like the story
culminates with Jesus, and Jesus was the point of the

(19:57):
whole thing, and like everything turns on that. But there's
so much richness of understanding that you get if you
understand everything that happened before and all the prophecy that
hasn't been fulfilled yet. And there's even reading prophety. I
remember so many years of reading the Bible and just
kind of trying to make a verse about me and

(20:19):
not understanding at all how to recognize. No, like these
nice little things that God's saying, He's not It's not
that he can't use it to speak to me, right,
But like that first people quote all the time, for
I know the plans I have for you to close
the Lord Prince the propect be and not to harm you.

(20:40):
Plans to give you a hope in the future. That's
that verse, isn't. It's not that God can't use it
to encourage you, because that is the type of God
he is. He's the type of God who says that
to people. But he's the specific people he said it
to was the Jews, and not whoever happens to stumble
upon this verse. Right now. He's saying, I have plans
for you to prospeert, you know, to harmon, plans to

(21:01):
give you a hope in future. I think that's generally true,
that he has good plans for all of his children.
But I think that there's so many people who miss
what the prophecy is saying and miss what God was
communicating about his intentions because they're trying to make it
about them. There's a way that modern Christians read the
Bible with the them centric view of like, this is

(21:24):
a book about me that God wrote for me, And
it's like, yeah, but no, because it's the The book
is not about any person. It's about a good and
faithful God who deals with people. So it's like a
who comes verse to you or God and then read
the bubble in that order. I don't know, I'm phrasing
it badly. It was better in my head. Pastors should
talk about fulfilled prophecies more. It really does help strengthenly,

(21:45):
it does, Yes, don't. I don't understand why not, Annie,
because there's so much prophecy, Like the only prophecy that
I've really heard pastors talking about is like prophecy about Jesus,
And that's great, Like I'm glad that talking about that,
But there's so many prophecies where I'm reading through a
prophecy about tire or and I'm like, has this happened?

(22:09):
Why have I never been taught about like the history
or archaeology or anything about this thing. I'm assuming some
of these things. I'm like, I assume this happened because
it was prophesied so many thousands of years ago, and
it doesn't seem to be an end Times prophecy. It
seemed to be a more contemporaneous probably happened within two
hundred years after it was prophesied, But I just don't

(22:29):
know sometimes, and most people don't talk about it. Yes,
And I have challenged post Mills on this. I'm like,
if you are a post mill and you believe all
of revelation already happened, then you believe that all of
the prophecies of the Old Testament already happened, show me
where they happened, Like, like, shouldn't there be U don't

(22:52):
comme at me with this nebulous Oh yeah it happened,
But like, show me one to one ratio and all
these prophecies. This is how this was fulfilled. This is
how this was fulfilled, because would be so cool, but
I don't see you doing it. Because God's fulfillment of
his promise for a messiah was so earthshaking that we
still talk about it today. Yeah, but to be more
serious and not that I wasn't serious, but if God's

(23:13):
fulfillment for his promises is so hard to notice that
you have to be like, oh I miss that, like
totally miss that and understand like certain historical things, but
like if you have to question was this fulfilled or not,
you either have a very weak view of God or
it hasn't been fulfilled yet. I get. I'm not phrasing things.
Michael Heiser said the Bible was not written to us,

(23:36):
but it is for us. Yes, I think that it
is only when you recognize who was it written to
and what context was it written to and how did
that communication like go, because like God is speaking to
Israel and a lot of those prophecies and then like
how did Israel respond? What happened? What like what was

(23:57):
the interplay of that? And then I think when you
get through all of that, then you can look at
it and go, oh wow. God is a god who
keeps his promises. God is a God who warns you
over and over and over about your sin. He tells
you about your sin. He goes hey, hey, hey, hey,
And there's a point where he's like, I have warned

(24:17):
you so many times and now I'm done. Yeah, and
now you're gonna the consequences of your sin is going
to come back on your own head and it's going
to be awful and it's going to be terrible, and
then I'm going to restore you. And that so much
of the Old Testament is God saying all these things. Anyways,
way too much. Twenty five minutes of us talking before
getting into the Full of Arms. Very bad, very bad,

(24:38):
because we like to say we don't preach, we just
read through the Bible verse by words and top But
there's been an awful lot of preaching for Abby today,
for just stream of consciousness musings. Musings. Yeah, that's what
it is. Musings. Okay, we are in we do oh
oh hi whoa hi big Abby. I'm like your shoulder Angel.

(24:58):
I was going to start trying to if you did
it wrong. Okay, I edited the wrong street. I'm very
proud of you. Hebrews chapter nine. Hebrews does a lot,
a lot, a lot of explaining how the law from
Leviticus was fulfilled and Jesus applies to us today. That

(25:21):
kind of thing. Now, even the First Covenant had regulations
for worship and an earthly place of holiness. So we're
talking about the first Covenant as given in Leviticus Exodus.
Leviticus numbers to Norman. There's a lot of well, okay,
numbers is more census and a wandering in the wilderness. Yeah,

(25:46):
but the covenant starts being given in Exodus, really fleshed
out in Leviticus, reiterated with more like some some changes
in specificity for actually going to the promised land. So
Leviticus is like the fully fleshed out here are your
laws for wandering in the wilderness, and then there's a
lot that's repeated in Deuteronomy, and then things are added

(26:08):
like sanctuary cities and some of that like physical in
the land type stuff. Big Abby is always watching with
her shoulder gullum. Okay. So now even the first Covenant
had regulations for worship, and an earthly place of holiness
for a tent was prepared. The first section in which
where the lamp stand and the table and the bread

(26:28):
of the presence, it is called the Holy Place. Behind
the second curtain was a second section called the most
Holy Place, having the golden altar of Vincen's and the
arc of the Covenant covered on all sides with gold,
in which was a golden urn holding the manna and
Aaron's staff that butted and the tablets of the Covenant
above it, where the Cherubim of Glory overshadowing the mercy

(26:51):
seat of these things we cannot now speak in detail.
Is that because they don't really know all the details
for my witness, Yeah, I think it's because like they
they know what was in it. But other than that,
it's it's been so long since somebody saw it. It's
been forgotten, I think is the idea they did used
to have the temple basically talking about the tabernacles business.
He's talking about the Ark of the Covenant specifically, and

(27:14):
by the time we get to Hebrews, Yeah, it's been
lost for a long time since the time of Jeremiah.
I believe, yes, that sounds right these because there's a
theory that Jeremiah was the one who hid it in
the tunnels underneath them the rock, which that's what is
now the Dom of the Rock. I don't know if
that's true, though, isn't that in Mecca Beeze It's possible.

(27:35):
It's possible. I'm not sure where the source is on that,
but that is one of one of the theories is
that the arc is still down there, yes, somewhere hidden
locked up probably probably you know all the like really
difficult puzzles and locks and things in like Indiana Jones,
it's probably like that, or or I just had a

(27:58):
mental image that I now have to share with the class.
It's there. It's actually super easy to find, and every
day another Muslim goes down and tries to take it
out and then die, so that it's like just growing
pile of them. And they have to like squeeze by them.
It actually would be so funny if it's kind of
an open secret that it's down there and everyone knows
that it's down there and nobody can touch it. Yeah,
no one can get anywhere near it. I don't know,

(28:19):
I don't know. Oh. Yes, these preparations having thus been made,
the priests go regularly into the first section performing their
ritual duties, but into the second only the high Priest goes,
and he but once a year, on Young the day
of a Homet, and not without taking both. By the way,
we just had yan Kapor and Sokka. Yes, which is

(28:43):
why there were more terrorist attacks against Jwish people last
couple of days FW days, because it was sorry Yang
Kapur and Rashashana and suk that's that's the Russiashana in
first Russia Shana and then yank. Right, you're going to
be a Jew. You have to get it right once

(29:04):
a year, and not without taking blood, which he offers
for himself and for the unintentional sins of the people.
By this, the Holy Spirit indicates that the way into
the Holy Place is not yet opened, as long as
the first section is still standing, which is symbolic for
the present age. Okay, that was thick. What is happening here?
I'm gonna fit Okay, I'm gonna read the next couple verses.
I'm gonna go back and see if we unpacked that.

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According to this arrangement, gifts and sacrifices are offered that
cannot perfect the conscience of the worshiper, but deal only
with food and drink and various washings regulations for the
body imposed until the time of Reformation. Yes, so when
Jesus refers to the Pharisees as whitewashed tombs, I think
this is kind of what he's referencing of, Like all
these things you're doing cleanse the outside. We haven't dealt

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with a heart yet. Your heart's rotten. So that's what
we're gonna do next. Yes, this verse eight confused me. Okay,
so he's talking about the temple itself is the holy place,
and then the whole the place where the ark of
the Covenant was is the most holy place. And you

(30:10):
had to let's see, in order to go into the
first section, the holy place, the main part of the temple,
the priests had to be ritually pure, but in order
to go to the most Holy Place, you had to
take blood. Yes, I think I get it. Okay, So
the yeah, the Holy Place and then the Holy of Holies.
And when the curtain was ripped, we now have access

(30:34):
all of us to the Holy Place, but we won't
be in the Holy of Holies until we're in heaven.
So this present age is the Holy Place. We haven't
entered into that next room. It's not yet opened as
long as we're in the present Age. I thought the
curtain was between I think so, But there I think
there is debate us to which. But also the curtain
might just indicate the Holy Spirit is leaving the most

(30:54):
Holy Place because he's gonna dwell us. Oh so there's
like several things going on here. Oh that's my take,
So let's see buy this. The Holy Spirit indicates that
the way into the Holy places is not yet opened
as long as the first section the Holy Place is
still standing. So as long as the Temple is still standing. Well,
it's it's not about the Temple itself standing. It's the

(31:15):
symbol of what this age is because we're the Temple
of believers. Like the believers, the Temple is now made
up of each individual believer who's a stone in the
temple that's in First Peter or Second Peter where it
says that, and so like we constitute in this present
age the holy place in this giant abstract temple interesting,

(31:35):
and then the most holy places happen, which will come
after the judgment maybe or something. Yeah, I'm unsure, I'm
unsure about any of that. Actually, it's a good as
good a theory as any holy theory we have. The
Holy Spirit indicates that the way into the Holy places
is not yet opened as long as the first section
is still standing, which is symbolic for the present age.

(32:00):
Just googling comment. So the idea of like, as long
as as long as okay, I'm gonna read it the
way that I know that you corrected me, I'm gonna
go back because you could still be right. But I
also think like the face value reading is always going
to be the best reading, usually going to be the

(32:21):
best reading as long as the first section is still standing,
as long as the temple is still standing, the temple
being symbolic for the present age, So as long as
as long as the temple is still standing, the way
into the Holy places is not yet opened. My question

(32:41):
here is when the temple was destroyed, did that did
that do anything? Or was it truly because you added
in some stuff that I think is I mean biblically
correct that I believe like we're all that priestthood of believers,

(33:05):
the spirit is living in us, that the Bible says
your body is a temple. Like all that concept is there.
I'm just unsure what this means ells commentary for English
readers and their little paragraph on it with the way
into God's immediate presence is not yet manifest. Yeah, the
way into God's immediate presence is not yet because we're

(33:28):
in this place where we are in communion with God
and we are priests in the order we're all. I'm
just very badly warning things. I think it's second Peter. First,
Peter talks about us all being priests, so we're in
that holy place, and yeah, if our bodies in the
new Temple, mm hm, is it saying that, like we

(33:50):
we can't basically as long as our body as long
as we are I don't want to see trapped in
our bodies because that's a gnostic idea, but as long
as are we are bound to our earthly bodies. Mm hmm,
we can't be in the presence of God. Well, I
think it's we can even further simplify it, as of

(34:10):
as long as we're in this present age, we're not
in the age to come of being in God's presence. Sure, sure,
but there seems to be there seems it seems to
be saying something physically about as long as this first
section is standing whatever, whatever the current holy place is,
as long as that's standing, we can't get into the
most holy. But when it says which is symbolic for
the present age, I think it's talking about as long

(34:30):
as the think it's a simple forest still standing. But
maybe I'm age is still stand. That's how I'm taking it. Okay,
all right, well we because the temple itself isn't standing.
It's not, but the the body of body believes. The
body believes. What sorry labor this because I got stuck
on this because it's such an interesting Is this another

(34:54):
evidence of rapture that if the if the IF believers
are the temple mm hmm, as long as the temple
is standing, we're in the present age and we're not
with God. Well I think that, Yeah, like when the
rapture happens. It's kind of like moving into the next age. Yeah,
I mean, it's not finishing the and it would be
when we've seen him, right, Okay, yeah, we would be

(35:14):
taken up. Yeah, because then we would be in the
presence of God. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, lots of stuff going
on there. Talk the verse eleven. But when Christ appeared
as a high priest of the good things that have come,
then through the greater and more perfect tent, not made
with hands that is not of this creation. But when
Christ appeared as a high priest of the good things

(35:35):
that have come, then through the greater and more perfect tent,
not made with hands that is not of this creation,
he entered once for all into the Holy places, not
by means of the blood of goats and calves, but
by means of his own blood, thus securrying an eternal redemption.
So we don't have access to the holy places, but
Jesus did because he's in his glorified body. So I

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do think it has something to do with the body. Yeah, okay, yep.
For if the blood of goats and bowls and the
sprinkling of defiled persons with the ashes of a heifer
sanctify for the purification of the flesh. How much more
would the blood of Christ, who through the eternal spirit,
offered himself without blemish to God, purified our conscience from
dead works to serve the living God. So the old

(36:19):
covenant purified the vessel, and the soul is not purified
except through Christ's blood, which kind of ties into my
talk about like people in Shield of like their exterior
would have been cleansed by the stuff, but they still
had to be purified by Jesus when he died, right,
so they had to wait and shield and tell Jesus

(36:39):
went and preach to them, and they got the opportunity
to follow him. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know
how that works. That was a fun conversation in that episode.
And I don't know how much of it has I
was going to say, I went out on Wednesday, or
how much you're going to get next Wednesday. Yeah, so
I might be giving spoilers and you guys don't fish.
Verse fifteen. Therefore, he is the mediator of a new

(37:00):
covenant so that those who are called may receive the
promised eternal inheritance. Since a death has occurred, that redeems
them from the transgressions committed under the First Covenant. For
where a will is involved, the death of the one
who made it must be established, for a will takes
effect only at death, since it is not enforced as
long as the one who made it is alive. Therefore,
not even the First Covenant was inaugurated without blood. For

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when every commandment of the Law had been declared by
Moses to all the people, he took the blood of
cows and goats with water and scarlet wool and his
up and sprinkle both the book itself and all the people, saying,
this is the blood of the Covenant that God commanded
for you. And in the same way he sprinkled with
the blood oath, the tent, and all the vessels used
in worship. Indeed, under the law, almost everything is purified
with blood, and without the shedding of blood, there is

(37:44):
no forgiveness of sins. Yeah, I was like, I strongly
confidently understand the last words, so I'm gonna go with it.
I for some reason in this season of my life,
versus that I memorized when I was a kid really
stand out to me. Yeah, That's why I said it loud,
because it was one of those that I was like,
I recognize that when I memorized it, and it is

(38:04):
an important verse. Now I the more and more I'm like,
I want to make my kids memories so much scripture
because it's like it's in me. It's really in me,
stuff I memorize when I was like seven, you know,
so sorry not to Yeah, I've been reading. I haven't
finished it yet. I started reading it when I was

(38:24):
younger and then I just never got all the books.
But there's a series by Stephen James. It's called like
the Bowers Files or something. It's about this you did
you got me the second one because I met him, Yeah,
signed by the author, personalized for me. It was really good.
So I've just finished reading the fifth one a little
while ago, and I think I'm not sure, like what

(38:45):
the nomination he is, how solid all of his doctrine is,
but the stuff that he puts in because he does weaven.
Like the characters aren't Christian, but they're slowly, you know,
grappling with their view of the world and of God.
And one thing that they talk about in the fifth
book is forgiveness and how in order for that to
be forgiveness, someone has to bear the cost. And the
example he uses is like, if you are in this
doctor's waiting room and you smash that doctor's table, the

(39:08):
doctor forgives you for it, he has to pay for
the table. If he doesn't forgive you, you have to
pay for the table. Someone has to pay for the table. Yeah,
and for sin what the price for that is not
the price of a table. But it's death. Someone has
to die. It's either you or it's Jesus. But something yeah,
like if no one, If if no one, you could say,

(39:28):
oh well, just don't buy a new table. But then
the patients who don't get like who don't get to
sit on the table, they pay anyway, I take it
too far. Variable five dollars Morant, thank you so much.
Quote I started when I was younger, Laura, Technically everything

(39:49):
you've ever done, you did when you were younger, just
saying thank you for correcting her like that. I you
can pay me to correct her any time you want.
When I would younger, I said something about the book
that I read with the table metaphor and stuff. And
when I was younger, I just said that comment. When
I was younger. We started this stream forty minutes ago

(40:11):
we did. I've aged a lot since. Yeah, but yeah,
I think I've got like a whole new gray hair
since then. I've seen like three pop up. There's like
spraying anyway, somebody's got to go to jail. The Mason
and National Treasure yep, yep, National Treasure secretly a Christian movie.
National Treasure is a National Treasure. Do you remember that

(40:31):
like time period of recent church history where pastors were
like so desperate to be like and this movie that
everyone loves is secretly Christian? And this movie that everyone
loves I remember when our pastor the section should have
been a red flag. I think if I'm recalling, I
might just be making this up wholesale. I think also,
you might have been in college he made this. No

(40:53):
you went to be because this was before Anyway, it
doesn't matter. He did some sort of tried to connect
the Force in Star Wars. Okay, yeah, I'm not hallucinating.
I'm sure completely unrelated. He did go on to sort
of have an emotional fair with someone in the church,
so I don't know if he had the best grounding

(41:14):
discernment or just yeah, he was like the Force is
kind of like the many who Okay, well that yeah,
that guy I probably should not have been a pastor.
I do think it's fair to say when you have
a pastor who is like really really trying, really really

(41:34):
hard to shoehorn the Bible and make it feel relevant,
that might be a sign that they don't they don't
love the Bible and are excited about it. And I
will say, my pastor he sees the effect of parables
like how they are his teaching, so he will throw
like a little anecdote as like a parable type thing in,
but it's not struggling to make the Bible seem relevant.

(41:55):
He'll like use that to you know. It's fine. I
don't need to defend my pastor to you guys. Fight
me anyway, satrisis. Did you know Domino's Pizza is secretly Christians?
My favorite secretly Christian thing is In and Out because
they have like if you turn the cups upside down,
you can see the Bible verse on the bottom of
secretly And that training was like I didn't consent to

(42:16):
having a Bible varse on my thing. Well, I was like,
I didn't consent to having in my feet. That's the
right way to be secretly Christian. Anyway, When I worked Atchiicili,
we would sometimes write Bible verses on the caps and
tell someone complained to the manager. Not like this movie
is built on Buddhist ideology. It's secretly well technically, I think,

(42:39):
I don't know if you're specifically referencing Star Wars, but
I think that's gnostic, is it? You know what You're well,
it's all gnostic. At the end of the day, Buddha
is Yeah, what's more important here? Is it if I
can get the last drip of coffee? I know every
time I think I've got the last drop, and then
I put my tumbler in my diaper bag and then
there's drips of coffee on that vipers, and I'm like,

(43:00):
I drank the last job, and I know I did
because I tried really hard. Generated does not care. Yeah,
always generates in others a little copy. Although I put
my calcium supplement in there, so like every drop is
important to me because that was an expensive supplement. Fair enough,
I'm getting my last money's worth anyway. Oh okay. Indeed,

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under the law, almost everything is purified with blood, and
without the shedding of blood, there is no forgiveness of sins.
Thus it was necessary for the copies of the heavenly
things to be purified with these rites. But the heavenly
things themselves with better sacrifices than these. For Christ has
entered not into holy places made with hands, which are
copies of the truth thing, but into Heaven itself now
to appear in the presence of God on our behalf.

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Nor was it to offer himself repeatedly, as the high
priest enters the holy places every year with blood on
his own, For then he would have had to suffer
repeatedly since the foundation of the world. Catholics, he's not
being crucified. Well, it's not that they believe he's being
crucified again. It is if they believe he's being offered
up again. So he's like coming down on the altar
again as a sacrifice, and they make this distinction of well,

(44:07):
it's a reminder sacrifice. And it's like the whole purpose
of him sitting at the right hand of God to
intercede with us is that God is continually reminded by
his presence in heaven. Yeah, that he that he now
operates in the role because he sacrificed for us as
the mediator. Yeah, we don't need to remind God like, oh, hey,
you forgot, but your son died for us, so don't
kill us. This passage, I think is a really clear

(44:29):
repudiation of that particular doctrine, for then he would have
had to suffer repeatedly since the foundation of the world.
But as it is, he has appeared once for all
that the end of the age is to put away
sin by the sacrifices of himself and justice. It is
appointed for man to die once and after that comes judgment.
So Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins
of many, will appear a second time, not to deal

(44:50):
with sin, but to save those who are eagerly waiting
for him. And this makes it clear he's offered once,
he's not offered repeatedly. Yeah. The other thing here, and
you mentioned this on one of the episodes, like I
have no idea which episode now, one of the last
three episodes that we recorded, which one of them hasn't
even aarred yet, but oh oh yeah, but as it did,

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and just as it is appointed for man to die
once and after that comes judgment. What was Sater yelled
at for oh, I have no idea?

Speaker 2 (45:21):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (45:22):
Did we yell at him for something. I don't think
so I didn't. I didn't yell Stata for anything. We could,
we could, we could yell if you would like to
pick something for us to yell at you about, then
we could. I I'm open to that, unless unless he's
talking about us yelling at Catholics. Oh oh, in my head, well,
because Sata says he's only he's nominally Catholics. So in
my head, he's uh when I yell at the Catholics

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that in my head, I'm not yelling at him. Yeah,
you get a free pass. You are covered by the
doesn't make any better. Sorry. Reincarnation. This first really clearly
denies reincarnation, and then if Satar wants to get offended
the verses prior repudiate I think really clearly the Catholic

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idea that every time the priest officers communion, it is
Jesus's body and blood again being overed again. That's also
a play on pagan theophagi, which is a thing, Yeah,
a pagan Okay. The other thing I wanted to highlight
here is this is also really clearly stated that each

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of the things in the temple, in the Tabernacle were
copies of heavenly things. The altars a copy of the
heavenly Thing, the lamb stance copy of the heavenly thing,
the arc of the Covenant is a copy of the
heavenly Thing. And I think that there's a way that
we have gotten very fixated on the of the Covenant,
where is it in conspiracy circles, And I think that

(46:49):
that that may come into play even within the next
five years, where the you know, the earthly arc of
the Covenant is, but the the real stuff is in heaven.
And I think that that this also kind of repeates
this idea that the temple doesn't matter anymore, that after
the Temple, that after Jesus's sacrificed, the temple was destroyed

(47:15):
and there's never going to be another temple, or if
there is, it's going to be an evil temple, and
that the temple and easy Gill that's described in extreme detail.
I had somebody trying to insist to me that that
that temple and Easykiel that's described in like chapter upon
chapter upon chapter, like it takes you a couple of
hours to read aloud through the whole like intricate description

(47:36):
of it. And someone was like that's just a metaphor
for Jesus's body, like you're telling me, God in the
book with limited space in the book he gave us
spent that much time on all of this heavy detail
about metaphor for Jesus's body. No, that's a real temple.
And I believe, if I'm understanding correctly, the temple that

(48:00):
is described in Ezekiel and not much detail is the
heavenly thing. It's the one that's going to stand out
of heaven. I could be wrong, also, I just felt
like I should remember. Remind y'all, Jeremiah three fifteen to seventeen.
I will give you shepherds who are loyal to me,
and they will shepherd you with knowledge and skill. When
you multiply an increase in the land in those days.

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This is the Lord's declaration. No one will say again
the ark of the Lord's Covenant. It will never come
to mind, and no one will remember or miss it.
Another one will not be made. At that time, Jerusalem
will call the Lord's will be called the Lord's Throne,
and all the nations will be gathered to it. To
the name of the Lord. In Jerusalem, they will cease
to follow the stubbornness of their evil hearts. And the
way I'm reading this is there's going to reach a
point where it just doesn't even matter because the thing

(48:42):
that it was a picture of has come. You don't
care about the picture anymore because we have the thing.
We have the Lord's throne, which is is it the
idea that like the arc used to be God's footstool,
but it's actually going to be the whole city of Jerusalems.
That's my take. That's not how I'm reading it. So
by not marry, that's the arc of the Covenant, It's
Jerusalem the ark of the Covenant. Yes, I've also seen

(49:03):
a really good breakdown of how uh Jesus is the
ark of the Covenant.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Hmm.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
I would need to go back and find it. But yeah,
And and the fun thing is Jerusalem is a lot
easier to find and a lot harder to lose track of.
So this new Throne, I'm pretty confident will will know
where it is. Might go on to that, Yeah, But
I do think that the temple described in it is
egel Is is the heavenly thing that in Revelation it

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talks about the new Jerusalem coming down out of heaven,
and it seems that within the Nudersalem that comes out
of heaven, all of these heavenly things that have always
been described as coming down. I don't know, I knows
that's gonna look like or mean like that. It seems
like a very strange thing. It sounds very sci fi.
It's like what It's always funny to me because we

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I picture the Bible as kind of like a fantasy novel, yes,
kind of when you're when it's playing out in my head,
it's like a fantasy novel movie like that. There's all
these miracles, and it's got the like medieval or not medieval,
but like kings and queens and successions and stuff like

(50:18):
the stuff that you find in a fantasy novel. And
then revelations like, oh, by the way, it's super sci
fi though, actually sci fi, And then Ezekiel has these
moments of like, WHOA, that was super sci fi? Was
going on here because it's the spaceship side note. Side note.
I don't think y'all even want Mary as the Ark
of the Covenant because it's going to become so irrelevant
that no one cares about it anymore. And I wouldn't

(50:38):
want that for Mary. We don't want that from Mary. Yeah, okay,
back to the text. Wow, we are making so little progress.
And by that I mean a lot of progress. I
have like really enjoyed being live with you so much
so that we have this, yes, been a terrible actual
Bible study. I mean never gets little treats since so
she's really taken by this one. Okay, Actually we did

(51:02):
get to the end of Hever's nine. Okay, let's speed run.
Oh we actually did. Okay, well, yeah, we did. Let's
speed run Leviticus nineteen, and then we can say we
at least did a chapter of Leviticus nineteen. And the
Lord spoke to Moses saying, speak to all the congregation
of the people of Israel, and say to them, you
shall be holy, for I the Lord your God. And holy.

(51:23):
Remember holy means set apart, yes, and that's something that
God kind of taught and expanded. At first. That meant
like a very physical set apart. Don't intermarry with the
nations around you unless they convert or like all this stuff.
And now we have come to understand like it means

(51:45):
set apart from sin. It means every one of you
shall revere His mother and his father, and you shall
keep my sabbaths. I am the Lord, your God. Do
not turn to idols or make for yourselves any gods
of cast metal. I am the Lord, your God. When
you offer a sacrifice of peace offerings to the Lord,
shall offer it so that you may be accepted. It
shall be eaten the same day you offer it, or
on the day after, and anything left over until the

(52:05):
third day shall be burned up with fire food poisoning.
If it is eaten at all on the third day,
it is tainted. It will not be accepted. And everyone
who eats it shall bear his iniquity because he has
profane what is holy to the Lord, and that person
shall be cut off from his people. So I guess
Leviticus nineteen seems to be and we'll see if this
bears out through the rest of the chapter. But kind
of some repetitions of some like really important key concepts

(52:27):
that have already been expressed, but he's like driving them home.
I think it's also worth noting that he'll be cut
off from his people also because he'll probably die of
wood Puts verse nine. When you reap the harvest. I
love this. Oh, I've talked about this in the Exodus study.
I don't know if we've hit it in Levitica study,
but yeah, I don't. I love this so much. When

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you reap the harvest of your land, you shall not
reap your field right up to its edge. Neither shall
you gather the gleanings after you harvest. And you shall
not strip your vineyard bear. Neither shall you gather the
fallen grapes of your vinyard. You shall leave them for
the poor and for the sojourn or I am the Lord,
your God. So basically what he's saying is, don't try
too hard when you harvest. Yes, So it's so fun

(53:11):
because it's it's like a kindness to everyone. There's like
a no, you just just harvest your field, but don't
like nitpick it. Yeah, don't sit there and go you like,
you just harvest it, have a good time, harvest it,
and then leave the rest behind for the poor, who

(53:31):
then can come behind you and nitpick through. And that
why they're also working for their food. They're working for
their fil food. And you are you are in because
harvest is a really busy time of year. You are
released from the like perfectionism. You know what you know
how you can do a task. You can do a
task perfectly fine, and you can do it quickly, or

(53:57):
you can do it perfect and you can do it
so slowly. And there's like a burden to that perfection.
And with harvest, God's saying, don't don't do that perfection.
This is the provision I'm giving so that people who
are hard down on their luck struggling do not have
to lose their dignity and take a handout. They're going

(54:17):
to work for their food. They are going to harvest
their own food. And it's just such a beautiful gift
to like everyone involved. And I love it so much,
and I get the feeling. And maybe you cover this
in I Zoned Up. They don't have to go through
the embarrassment of asking, hey, can I pick in your field,
because they could just go in and yeah, they can
just they can just do it. Yeah. Yeah. And we
see it happen in Ruth in the Book of Ruth. Oh,
I think she does ask. Yeah, I forget there is

(54:43):
there is some communication. Oh, I think it's just for
protection from the Actually, yeah, he says, So she gleans
without asking one day and then he realizes that she's
a distant relative of his And so he's like, do
not go to anyone else's field, stay in my field,
continue gleaning in my field. I will make sure you're Yeah,
that's but yeah, that's what happened. We should do the

(55:06):
Book of Ruth. That would be really fun and easy
to do in one night. Go and and there's there's
a few a few different laws that it like kind
of illustrates how those laws and it kind of m
it shows the people following the laws, and then it

(55:27):
it makes it even clearer how those laws become a
picture of Jesus. So I think it would be actually
a really fun follow up to this. But the gleaning
thing is a big part of Ruth. Okay, oh, verse eleven,
you shall not steal, you shall not deal falsely, You
should not lie to one another. You shall not swear
by my name falsely. Okay. This is funny because I've

(55:47):
heard people say, oh, the Bible doesn't say you can't lie,
It just says bear false witness. I'm like, you only
read the ten Commandments and didn't read the rest of Leviticus.
There's also another verse it was like six things Lord
hates seven and to him abomination lying lips. The Bible
does say don't lie. Sorry, But but there's also a

(56:11):
couple stories where it does seem that the main character
lies and is blessed for it. Rahab the prostitute lies
about the spy that Israeli spies be is really Israeli
spies from Masad. The two Mathad agents that were scoping

(56:32):
out the promised land right have hid them and lied
about it, and God blessed her and saved her. And
then also the the midwives, the the Hebrew midwives who
were lying to the Egyptians, dirty women. They just say
that don't need our help, like well, I promised we

(56:52):
want to kill the baby boys and they just they
just give birth before we could get there. It's like
baby I don't know why they werevaguely Russian, but I
do think in those cases it's the spirit of the
law versus the letter of and the reason I'm saying
that is not so like I can get away with nine.
But there's the the story. So Jesus is with the

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disciples going through the field and on the Sabbath, that's important,
and the disables are kind of grabbing some grain to
eat on the way, doing the gleaning thing. Yeah, actually, yeah,
and the Pharisees are like the kind of the falls,
and Jesus was like, you remember that time when David
went and ate the bread of the presents, which is
only the priest can eat. And the point he's making
is Sabbath is made for man, not man for the Sabbath.

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And yes, you specifically talk about the Sabbath. But I
think the idea is when it comes to do we
follow the exact letter of the law and hurts someone right,
or do we follow God's real law, the spirit of
the law of love your neighbor as yourself, love the Lord,
your God, with all your heart and soul. I got
those backwards. Do we follow that first and foremost? Where
the things conflict? And the answer is right, we follow God.

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He was pretty clear that, Like, if I was to
extrapolate from the couple stories of people like you are
allowed to lie if it saves someone's life, like that
seems to be like the pretty clear. Yeah, the Bible
doesn't explicitly say that, but it does kind of seem
like if you lie to save someone's life, you're fine.
And I do think God really does care about your heart,
because there was the case with Corey ten Booms. I

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think it was like cousin or sister who couldn't lie
and was like, yeah, we're riding juice and they're like,
ah haha, you're so funny. They didn't believe it. It
was really funny. Yeah, her conscience would not let her lie,
so she was like yeah, she was like, yeah, they're
in a little like covered up cover. But I do
feel like I always had an issue with her, and
I understand that she was following her principles, but there's

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a certain extent to which if you want to protect
your conscience by not telling a lie at the risk
of someone's life, I do kind of have a problem
with you. Yeah. I appreciate that God honored that, Yes,
oh yeah, absolutely, but there's yeah, I didn't agree with her.
We'll kind of be like, okay, and you're sleeping on
side tonight. But no, yeah, mostly let's see, let's see

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and and you're allowed to eat food that you shouldn't
or when you shouldn't, are you allowed to work? Like?
That's the other thing when when David and his soldiers
came in to eat the bread of the presents, they
weren't like, we're just feeling kind of peckish. Do you
have anything like that? We're so they were so hungry,
they were starving, that was the only food available. Yeah, yeah,

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don't deny aid to people in the name of God.
Yeah yeah, yeah, it's very much the case of like, oh,
I'm sorry, I can't help you. I am a very
bull makes a good point. He says, if you're gonna
have to ask for forgiveness either way, better to ask
for forgiveness for the thing that only negatively affects you, right, right, Yeah,
your conscience should not be prioritized over someone's life. That's

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very that's correct. And I think with the way that
Korey Tamboom presented it, like her sister was just so
like naively innocent and yeah, she wasn't a stick in
the mud, Yeah exactly, which is I think she just
could not bring herself to lie and wash Yeah, honored it. Yeah,

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she probably if she honestly, if she had lied, she
would have probably been a bad liar and the Jews
would have been killed probably. Yeah. Yeah, there's sad. Yeah,
there there's also stuff in the Bible, but like, don't
violate your conscience. That's even if somebody tells you you
are allowed to or you have the freedom. Look, it
would not violate my conscience to be like, no, we're
not going to do some the floorboard, but we are
hiding your mom. So yeah, anyway, okay, let's see. Let's see.

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Let's see verse eleven. You shall not steal, You should
not deal falsely. You should not lie to one another.
You shall not swear by my name falsely and so
profane the name of your God, I am the Lord.
So that I swear by my name falsely is like
I promise in Jesus name I'm going to do this
and then not do it. Basically side note, yeah is it?

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This is? This is on the parisecical of parsing things.
But if I were to not want to violate my conscience.
So going with the juice thing, like do you have juice?
Are you hiding juice? And I say, there are no
jews here, and in my head hear me, it's in
this exact room and there's no Jews in this exact room.
It is lying by a mission, but it's actually lying
because what I said with my mouth hole was not
a lie. Not that I'm hiding juice. I'm hiding juice.

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I'm hiding Ben Shapiro in my floorboards. Oh that's why
the floor was talking really fast. I just thought I
drank too much coffee or something. I'm not looking for
an opportunity to lie. I just for this very specific circumstance,
want to know what I'm supposed to do. But the
funny thing is when that happens, it's like they're gonna
be like, Okay, we're taking you away because the Internet
told us super Jewish. So it doesn't even matter who
I'm hiding where. It's just I'll be the one hiding

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in the if if they ever asked me if I'm
hiding Jews, I'll be like, yes, Ben Shapiro is in
my floorboards. Yes he won't stop talking. Please take him
out of the house. And they'll be like, this is
a joke to you, This is very keep yelling respect
to the shmer and then taking all of my cream
cheese sick jokes on them. I actually did have veg

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of beer. Okay, yes, I need to calm down. You
need to come down. I need to come down anyway.
You shall not oppress your neighbor or rob him the
wages of a hired worker shall not remain with you
all night until the morning. I need to tell my
boss that you shall not curse the deaf or put

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a stumbling block before the I think the idea is like,
once they have worked for the thing, don't put them off.
I mean, my boss will look me back pay. So yeah,
that's yeah. Her boss says, But if you're an employer
and you have contracted with your employee and they expect
to be paid every two weeks, then you're fine. Yeah,

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but none of this like oh it's you have to
work a month to get your anyway, Well, the structure
they had was stayed labor, so it was like he
needs that in order to pay for his lodging or
eat pay for his food. You can't deny him these
things of life because he's a day laborer. It Stata says.
If anyone asked me if I'm hinding Jos is gonna
tell them. I think Abbie lab or her sister are
in the walls. I mean your walls, whether you're trying

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to hide me or not, so like get an extormination
surface or stop complaining. Oh I saw alease get the
mouth please. I can't call it choosing her walls again.
I note I saw a video on Instagram where this

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extermination surface as a prank calls up one of their
clients that they helped out like a couple of weeks
prit They're like, you know that rat we got from
your walls. We named it Scraps, and he's just really lonely.
He really misses your house, and we feel it's in
the best interest for Scraps his mental health to come
and return to pure house and we'll refund him. But
you need to take Scrush back because, like, looking at
it from his point of view, he was your roommate.
He's like, it's kind of his house too. It was
just so funny to go so mad. Oh yes, they

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are gnawing on the wires. Picture is calling the Nazis
of like juice in my walls. And also there are
wolves chasing me, which actually side note, apparently hallucinating wolves
chasing you is like a known side effect of flakka,

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where the people in your walls and floors is I
believe method better means interesting that there's very specific hallucinations
in a company, certainly certain drugs. I'm curious about that.
You shall not curse the death or put a stumbling
block before the blind. But you shall fear your God.
So like this feels like like don't be cruel, Like,

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don't be cruel to people who are as It's not
it's not a joke to be mean to disabled people.
It's not funny to punch down. Unlike the AI video
my coworker showed me of Stephen Hawking driving his little
wheelchair off a giant stand and onto an MMA fighter

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and winning the match by just like body slumming him
with his real That really happened, That wasn't I did
promise that with AI. You shall do no injustice in court.
You shall not be partial to the poor or defer
to the great. Yeah, so it's very specifically, you're not
supposed to prefer either one. You're not supposed to be
partial to the poor because they're part. You're not supposed
to defer to the rape because they're great. But in

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righteousness shall you judge your neighbor. You shall not go
around as a slanderer among your people, and you shall
not stand up against the life of your neighbor. I
am the lorder God, So sign out about the not
showing partial preference to the poor. We're seeing that Arena,
the guy who killed Arena, stuff like that. We're seeing
people taking it easy because it's like I have a
friend who, like, bless her heart, she's very compassionate, but

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it's misplaced suicidal compassion where she thinks all a lot
of crime can be solved by having less poverty. And
it's like, Nope, we're being extra nice to them on
the justice system because they're poor and they're stabbing people. Yeah,
let's not do that. Let's do that. You shall not
hate your brother and your heart. You shall reason frankly
with your neighbor, lest you and curseon because of him.

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You shall not take vengeance or bear a gradge against
the sons of your own people. But you shall love
your neighbor as yourself. I am the Lord, So I
like this, Like, you shall not hate your brother in
your heart, but you shall reason frankly with your neighbor.
This idea of like, instead of just building up this
narrative in your mind about how awful this person is, like,
go to him and try to like work it out,
because becoming resentful and better it is incurring sin because

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of it. Yeah, and I think that there's like a
there's a way you can be like, oh, I you know,
I don't hate anybody, but like, in practice, you're not
going to the person, you're not trying to work the
thing out. You've just given up on them. In practice,
you do hate them. Yeah, Like if you're going to
just cut someone off without giving them the opportunity to

(01:06:48):
fix things with you, Yeah, it's different if they try
to stab you or something. Yeah, but it's it's different
if you have tried to reason with them, You've given
them multiple chances or a chance. Yeah, And then there
comes a point where you're like, Okay, I need to
I need to stop doing that. Okay, Verse nineteen. You
shall keep my statutes. You shall not let your cattle
breed with a different kind, no crossbrating, no filth the

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rotten mixed cows. You shall not sew your field with
two kinds of seed, nor shall you wear a garment
of cloth made of two kinds of material. If a
man lies sexually with a woman who is a slave
assigned to another man, and not yet ransomed or given
her freedom, a distinction shall be made. They shall not
be put to death because she was not free. So
they understand that there's that power balance off. She wouldn't

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really have about the same thing yet, right, so she
wouldn't be put to death. But he shall bring and
if he was put to death, then he can't make
it right to her. And so neither of them is
going to be put to death. But he shall bring
his compensation to the Lord, to the entrance of the
tender meeting, a ram for a guilt offering, and the
priest shall make atonement for him with a ram of
the guilt offering before the Lord for his sin that
he has committed. And he shall be forgiven for the
sin that he has committed. And you come into the

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land and plant any kind of tree for food, then
you shall regard its fruit as forbidden. Three years it
shall be forbidden to you. It must not be eaten.
And in the fourth year all its fruits shall be
wholly an offering of praise to the Lord. But in
the fifth year you may eat if it's fruit, to
increase its yield for you. I am the Lord your
gods to just let it. Let it. I'm mature. But
also I wonder if there's certain like higher tannins or

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shills lights in the early that's maybe not so good
for the body. I want to revisit this whole passage
because this like not sew in your field with two
different kinds of seed, or wearing a garment of two
different kinds of material. Yeah, the garment thing, I've heard
several things, because remember they didn't have polyester, so I've
heard the modern day thing of like, oh, well, garments

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mixed with polyester can be like a natural spermicide. M that.
I don't think that's what the Bible was talking about.
But my understanding and this is like Christian mu wu,
so I would look into it. But I believe that
this is verified that linen and cotton have different frequencies
and when you mix them, they kind of like cancel
each other out. But there are some like maybe health

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benefits of just one or the other. Don't quote me
on that. I want to revisit this in the next
Bible study because we don't have time to dig into
it tonight. But this was actually, this was one of
the things I absolutely intended to give you good answers
for in this study and didn't realize it was coming
up today. So let's just finish reading it and then yes,

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we'll circle back to a couple of these questions next
time before we get into Liviticus twenty and by next
time it's tomorrow, so we're gonna be recording. Oh yeah,
I shall not eat any flesh with the blood in it.
You shall not interpret omens or tell fortunes. You shall
not so just even like that's a we say things
casually like that, that's a good sign. It's a bad

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omen and that's supposed to even do that. Yeah, you
shall not round off the hair on your temples or
mar the edges of your beard. You shall not make
any cuts on your body for the dead, or tattoo yourselves.
I am the Lord. The running off the hair of
your temples is one that I'm like, I understand that's
why they have the locks, and I don't think that's
what it's talking about. Yeah, I mean, the lows will

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kind of cool. There's a bunch of like ones I
am very curious about. I wonder if the hairstyle of
rounding off the hair, because I think it's just like
the way they're cutting it and the way they're doing
the beard would be maybe something like the Canaanites or
the Pagans did that signified because the very next verses
you shall make cuts in your body for the day
of tattoo yourselves, which were pagan practices, and the verse

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before that is omens and fortune. So I think the
context is like this, this is lumped along with what
pagans are doing right and bad religion stuff. It's not
like I just really like this haircut, so you can't
do different ones. And there's a lot of this stuff.
I think that is like spirit of the law stuff
that the spirit of the law is, don't don't participate

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in these pagan practices the you're supposed to be, they're
supposed to be set apart. I don't think because I
don't see any I don't see any reason in the
New Testament that this tattoo thing, Like I have a tattoo.
I didn't think it was sinful to get well, the
context is for the dead, cuts in your body for
the dead, or tattoos, tattoo yourself. Yeah, I don't know

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if it's like directly for the dead. I have been
a little bit leary even because of some of the
things that are like ways that New Testament authors talk about,
like which ways are appropriate to grieve. He's like, don't
grieve as those who have no hope. I have wondered if,
like I personally wouldn't get a tattoo in remembrance of
a dead person, Yeah, because I think that that might

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be over that line with regards to the tattoos too.
You can get like a lot of skin infections, and
they're discovering that the tattoo ink can especially I have
a lot can be found in all of your lymp nuts.
It does migrate into your body, so it could even
just be a health thing of like this is oh yeah, yeah,
as I'm sure it was like way more dangerouspect than

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to do as well dick and poke and they didn't
know what germs were and yeah, yea shared needles and yeah, yep.
Do not profane your do by making her prostitute. Plus
the land fall into prostitution and the land became full
of depravity. You shall keep my sabbath and reference my sanctuary.
I'm the lord. I feel like, do you not pfing
your daughter by making her prostitute? Should have been able

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to have thought without saying like I'm glad. It seems
like the context of a lot of these specific things
are like specific, Just so we're super clear all of
these pagan practices that these other nations do in service
of their gods. You are not going to do them.
I'm going to be so clear with you. Do not
do these things. You're not going to find a loophole
where you can do these things. So when you see

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something like that, listen, you're like, oh, that's another thing
they were doing. And Cavin right right, And I wonder
if like all of these things, even the like planting
to kind of things together and then maybe a way
like it all too damage as the soil. But yeah,
variable made a good point of some of the stuff

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was simply so that the Israelites will be separate in
the world from other people. God wants it's people weird,
which is yeah, that's a good point. Just plant one
crop at a time. It's funny because I was just
I just saw a post about a three sisters garden,
which is a Native American practice where you plant corn,

(01:13:16):
beans and squash together because they like the way that
they interact is supposed to be really good for the
soil and the crop. So I'm curious if there's some
other like something pagan about that. I don't know. It
would also depend on the plants that are in the area,
because some of the plants that we have are not
gonn be what they have. And I have seen recommendations

(01:13:37):
for garden of like maximizing your output. This helps this grow,
and this keeps the plant. The flies off of this,
This keeps the deer away. And I don't think God
is like you can't do really maximize garden stuff. So
there's something going else going on. Anything. Uh, you shall
keep my sabbaths and reverence my sanctuary. I'm the Lord.

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Do not turn to mediums or necromancers. Do not see
them out, and so make yourselves unclean by them. I
am the Lord, your God. We talk about that in
one of the and we'll talk about recent episodes next two. Yeah,
that we're going to do. You shall stand up before
the gray head and honor the face of an old man,
and you shall fear your God. I am the Lord,
so I honor this face, but I can talk behind
his back. No, when a stranger sojourn's with you in

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your land, you shall not do him wrong. You shall
treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native
among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for
you are strangers. In the land of Egypt. I am
the Lord, your God. Side note, because I have seen
this get used by leftists to say, see the Bible
says that you have to accept immigrants, yes, but not
illegal immigrants. Because the Bible makes it clear the sojourner

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has to follow the lot if he wants to be
part of the group, he has to be by those
rules of citizenship. He has to be a citizens alien. Yeah. Yeah,
you shall do no wrong in judgment in measures of
length or weight or quantity of people. You shall have
just balances, just weights. Adjust Efa and adjust him. I'm
the Lord, your God who brought you out of the
land of Egypt, and you shall observe all my statutes

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and all my rules and do them. I am the Lord.
I do like how it keeps reminding them like I'm
the Lord. I'm saying this and I'm the Lord. Okay,
So mental note. We are going to go back to
just a couple of those things and do a little
bit more research on them when we record tomorrow, and
you will get that episode next Monday. Thank you for
being Live with us tonight. We have gone fifteen minutes

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over our normal time because we were so talky really
too chapter really did to chapter. So it'll be he
Brews ten and Leviticus twenty where we pick up next time.
Thank you so much for being here, God bless you,
and good night.

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