Mermaidtok Reacts

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Speaker 1 (00:52):
Hello, and welcome to season one episode I don't know
recording pre recording.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Uh this this is a follow up, but not a
part two. Yes, it's like a sister sequel. Sister sister sequel.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Show to the Ocean is weird. So I guess the
basic premise is that we started with things that are
well documented, that are real, and are moving in the
direction of mythological.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yes, and this time we're going to talk pretty much
exclusively about Mermaids. I don't think there's any other crossover,
although if it comes up, I'm not going to squelch
the discussion. So I would just like to warn you
I am down with the sickness. Abby is recovering from
the sickness. She decided to share it with me. So
if my voice is tremulous and weak, it's not because
I'm really moved by the subject matter. It's just because

(01:42):
I'm really moved by being sick. So that's what's going
on today.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
And we're assuming that Liz had the same thing as me,
and if it turns out that she does not.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
We're going to be big man plot twist. I gave
you the last round two and the one before that.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
I finished the songs that I was knitting for my mom,
and I decided to pick up this pair of socks
for some reason. I know the reason, but I don't
want to explain it. I only knit one of and
and now I have to knit the other one.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Mm hm. So I am every stock most have a pair.
We're a nice I am into that. So all right,
let's go, let's get started. So this is going to
be like a really relaxed show with very few notes
on my end and just a bunch of stuff to
throw at you and be like boom Mermaids. Believe me,
just because I bombarded you with stuff trus Yeah, and

(02:35):
most of the stuff is probably going to be spurious.
My goal in showing it to you is not to
use poor evidence to prove mermaids, but to show the
quality of the evidence out there that I'm running across.
But it's also interesting to me and I enjoy the discussion.
And yeah, so where to go with ancient first? So,
first of all, some context. When I was doing research,
it seems like the first incidence of mermaid type creatures

(02:57):
in historical records is Babylon Lak summer that period. It's
like the fish men and they don't. They don't kind
of manifest as what we understands. Mermaids nowadays are a
little bit different. But then I think it's Syria, like
two thousand years ago that the first actual mermaid mermaid
shows up, So they've been around a while in the
public consciousness. It's not just a little mermaid that kind

(03:19):
of started things right, Like definitely deep mythology. So we
have an Egyptian mermaid carving. My understanding is this is legitimate.
I mean it could be Ai in this day and age,
is supposedly from the Temple of Edfu, and this lovely
little stock photo thing is covering some important details, but
basically it does look like he's got a mermaid tail,

(03:41):
and he's just Egyptian on the top, fish on the bottom.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
That's one would want. So you know, I love how
it always in all of these old carvings. It is
usually a man and it looks like he's stuffed himself into.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Fish pants that are too yeah, fish pants, buy some
for your friends this Christmas. But there's a lot of
like in these deep mythologies, there's tons of half human
half creature things like satyrs and centaurs and the minotaur

(04:19):
wasn't quite half and half, but he wasn't not happening.
He was like a quarter in three quarters. Yeah. So yeah,
and I think there's there's obviously some reason why the
legend started. And I wouldn't say it's because like, oh,
they thought it was a cool story, like there's some
like spiritual religious significance. I would think if it's not

(04:40):
like we were actually seeing these things. So let's go
to that next link. This shows a Babylonian cylinder seal,
so this would actually be older. So with the cylinder seal,
basically that's the thing you see on the left. It's
just like a circular thing with impressions on it, and
then you roll it across wax and it creates these things.
So you see, this is the Babylonian style fish man.

(05:01):
They've got slightly different tales from what we would picture nowadays,
but some of them are even fish from the top
legs on the bottom, which is a fun little switch up.
I mean, it makes sense that like whatever process created
one would sometimes create the other. They're just not as
cool because half fish half woman doesn't have boobs, so
you can't make movies about it. Yeah, but this ties

(05:25):
into I think the legends of like the Anonaki coming
out of the sea. So this is where I wonder
if these at least they're not trying to say, oh,
these are fish men, but a symbolic of these beings
have their source in the sea, which in that ancient
Near Eastern culture, the sea meant like chaos. It wasn't

(05:46):
always even like it was a very strong metaphor for them.
So when stuff is referred to as the sea, it
might be actually the sea, or it might be like
they came out of chaos and brought order sort of idea.
So it definitely could be a symbolic thing, yeah, exactly,
or it could be both. Embrace the power of both.
We also have mermaid cave drawings. I have a couple

(06:06):
of different examples of this to do so you can
see there's some different options. Yeah, this one feels a
little bit more us dubious, just as far as like well,
pictures in bed Yeah. Rule of thumb in general that

(06:27):
if your evidence is a meme, yeah, where you can't
even like reverse image search the image. Yeah, I'm not
saying these are definitely not real, because it's pretty compelling,
and if these are legitimate drawings. It does like raise
an interesting question because it seems like they're depicting some

(06:50):
sort of conflict between the flesh pedal bipedal ones and
the non by pedal fresh ones.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
And like Disney of course made Mermaids fun, but the
Pirates of the Caribbean depiction of Mermaids is more accurate
to the mythology as far as like them being evil.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
My thinking, I go back and forth. If there is
something that exists that is taken for a mermaid, and
I think it'd be similar to you know how like chimpanzees, monkeys,
et cetera. They have a similar outline to humans. They're
not humans, but they have like that you know, the
arms and the fingers and stuff, some fish version of

(07:31):
that that can kind of look human but isn't actually
half human. I could see like being like some sort
of predatory fish.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
I guess, because like there are I guess it was
a silver back gorilla that was considered a cryptid, yeah,
encryptid until it was proven to be real. So it
is possible that there there is a you know, a
fairly rare, fairly vicious type of predatory creature out there
that has that sort of outline.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
I could buy that. Yeah, I mean, be creepy as heck,
but yeah, and then we can go to that next
set of Mermaid cave drawings. This one actually is more attested.
And this is a cave in South Africa. Oh I
should uh, and this is thought to be super duper old.
Obviously they're dating methods kind.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Of cave miror oo short short Southern Africa. But yeah,
I mean that seems pretty like sometimes you see cave
drawings and someone's like, yeah, I think I think it.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Was Skinwalker Ranch or something something like that where I
saw some like analysis of cave draw drawings. It was
super dubious, Like that's like a cloud. You're like, I
think it looks like this, and I think it looks
like this. You're just you're just making it look like whatever.
But like this this pretty clearly mrror creatures. Yeah, Like

(08:51):
I've seen some petric glovesodes like this is kind of
a rorshactest, but this is pretty you have some pretty
well defined shapes. It's also into see what they're holding,
like the like curvy thing in front of their heads.
I don't know what that's supposed to signify. Like a
lot of them are holding either two sticks or two
curved sticks, or some some combination, which would imply like

(09:14):
that these are more humanoid with tools, although primates, yeah,
primates can. Octopuses can use tools. And some of these
it looks almost like they've got this probuscus like thing
coming out of their heads. M yeah, I don't know
if that's a helmet, if that's some indication these aren't
actually humans, but like a weird fish thing that just
kind of like I can see a fish with really long,

(09:36):
slender fins on the sides that could be taken for arms,
some sort of weird mutant swordfish.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
But not all of these have that, And that makes
me wonder if it's the angle if they do all
have the probuscus. But if you see from the back,
for example, you think, oh, that's a human, but then
it turns and it's got along now snouted.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
This one on the top does seem to have some
boobage going on, but that also could be like a gut.
It's kind of hard to tell. Maybe a missing hand.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Yeah, But as the more I look at it, the
majority of these have some sort of yeah probuscus, It
just differs in like like this one at the top
is the longest one, So I'm gonna assume, just based
on my own metric, that he's in charge because he
has the pointiest probuscos.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, there's also like those lines that kind of look
like ocean type stuff, and then these things swimming around
at the bottom of the lines those look more just
like regular dolphins almost, or like a half and half
where they look less defined as mermaid type, more fish
like but still kind of weird.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
Especially is an interesting corollary to the the other version
of the half fish half human, oh true, true of like,
do we have now two different parts of the world
cave drawings indicating that there's a race of creatures that
some of them are one half and half together, some

(11:00):
of them the other half and half, but they are
always seen together in the same which would tend to
imply something a little bit more demonic or.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, some weird in mutations type stuff. And then, now
that we've exhausted our super duper scientific cave drawing stuff,
let's look at the first of our videos. And this
is where this one is just the first two if
I recall my notes correctly or just dissorted dubious mermaid proof,

(11:30):
but then we're going to go into a bunny trail
about a specific dude who claimstap interactions with Saren. So
let's look at that first video. Okay.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
I did want to mention real quick that when I
had done I did a Mermaid episode like a while back,
and I think what I kind of focused on was
more here's the mythologies and how they're painted in different places,
but also Christopher Columbus's records where he says they had
spotted mermaids.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
And I didn't.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
I didn't put it in my notes, and I think
you brought it up. I know people talk about manities,
but it's worth noticing that beluga whales from underneath do
look like they have like legs and knees kind of
joining together in like a womanly shape.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah, manates doesn't make any sense. Bluga whales makes some
a little bit more sense. And some of it can
be like it can be both, Like if there is
this public, this kind of shared consciousness, shared story that's
been passed down people who've actually seen this, like the
creatures can exist and not everyone who says they see

(12:30):
them is right.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
I was thinking, like, if you know of this shared
consciousness you're kind of gonna expect it. They might write
it over what you're actually seeing, especially if you've been
in the grog and you haven't seen a lady in
five weeks.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
And right, No, I think that there's certainly room for
them to be that to be happening.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
If you're used to what your mom looks like. I
can see why I am nity would make, you know,
be a confusing situation for you. Okay, okay, so we're yes, okay,
mm hmmm.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
Have you guys seen this video.

Speaker 5 (13:08):
It's a pretty old one, but it's footage from the
bottom of a Russian oil rig, so they got some
unexpected footage.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
Check it out.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
Uh, it's weird. It's like a fish, isn't it peeled
on a pike and then something comes by with a
long tail.

Speaker 6 (13:48):
What was that?

Speaker 4 (13:49):
Okay, let's watch it again.

Speaker 5 (14:12):
Okay, So now that you've seen that, let's take into
consideration that this was supposedly at a depth of around
six three hundred feet, so the world record for the
deepest free dive is actually two hundred and fourteen meters,
which converts to seven hundred feet, so we know that
couldn't have been a person down there also the world's
deepest scuba dive is three hundred and thirty two meters,

(14:33):
which converts to around one thousand and eighty nine feet.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
So even if someone was wearing some kind of fancy scuba.

Speaker 5 (14:39):
Diving mermaid costume of thongs, you still wouldn't be able
to reach that depth. So one, we've got a creature
that is at a depth that humans cannot possibly reach.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
Even with equipment. And we've also got the fact that
this thing speared something in the middle of the ocean
in Russia at.

Speaker 5 (14:56):
Three hundred feet Like what creature as the knowledge or
the capability to understand how to spit a fish. Okay,
I've also got another really creepy video that I need
you to see.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
Check it out.

Speaker 7 (15:28):
Anyway.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
So those watermarks are really annoying. I know, I'm sorry.
It makes the video quite difficult to see.

Speaker 5 (15:47):
So I've got my best to brighten things and the
exposure so we can try to get a better look
at it.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
Have you guys seen this video.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
So feel free to share your thoughts before I share
what I researched in my thoughts. So the first thing, mm,
I'm very curious to hear. Yes, I struggle with videos
of both of them, because basically what happens is they
set they don't show you the video without telling you

(16:31):
what you're gonna see, and then you see what they take, like,
you see.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
Something really blurry and unsure, and then you are like, Okay,
must have been what they told me it was, because
the person presenting it seems very confident, right, And then
there's never like a discussion of like what else could
it have been? Like is there some other explanation here? Yeah,

(16:59):
and the second one, she doesn't even really attest as
to where the videos from.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Yeah she doesn't. Maybe she doesn't know, but yeah, So
couple things. And anytime I see videos like that, my
first thought is, you know, could this be doctored footage?
Could this be CGI? This is these were before AI
was a big thing. These are videos that I had
saved on my phone from years ago, but I looked
into So it is true that the deepest saturation diver

(17:26):
is like twenty three hundred feet, So if the depth
is what she's saying it is, this wouldn't be like
someone not in some sort of submersible. But you can
have submersibles. The first question is, okay, who's filming Because
this this camera is moving, so it's not like a
stationary camera. I'm guessing it's from a submersible if this
is legitimate footage, or.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
It's like moving with the ocean current. Yeah, I guess
stationary camera.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
I guess that would makes sense. That is how deep
sea rigs do look. The visibility is so low that
it just looks poorly rendered, So it does kind of
look cgi I've seen like footage that you would know
is real, and it looks the same. Oil rigs do.
Some of them will go that deep, so it is
it is possible that they claims of something happening at

(18:11):
that depth are true. Beyond that, I couldn't find a
lot of info on anyone talking about that oil rig
when this happened, any other theories, any other like news.
Maybe if I was like on Russian sites, I would
find something. There was a I forget what it was called.
There was like a fake documentary that came out years
ago that was claiming to prove that mermaids were real,

(18:34):
and it was all it was all fake, but a
lot of people took it as real. H So I'm
always trying to be careful when I'm looking for clips
that I'm not running into those clips that are like
actually fake, and I did find a few in my research.
But my understanding is she is aware of that documentary
and that it's fake, so I don't think she's pulling
videos from that. And I couldn't find any crossover between

(18:55):
that documentary and this clip, the second one before we
move on, because I just googled something and now I
have a theory. Go ahead. Oil rigs can.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Change depth, so some of them, like, it's not necessarily
all of them. But my best theory as to what
happened here is that that's a rig that is known
to often be at that hugely deep depth, but that
was not a video of a moment where that particular
rig was at that depth.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
It is possible I didn't I don't know about that
one or another, so I wouldn't have thought to look up.
It would be a really easy thing to get wrong. Yeah.
My question then is if it's at that depth, so
it's like there's two distinct things happening on that film.
It does look like a spirit a fish got speared,
and it also looks like something with a long tail
swam by. You assume automatically that the tail is connected

(19:51):
with the thing that speared the fish, and it could
be that like someone spired it and then a predatory
fish swim and really quick and grabbed it. Although it
doesn't look like a normal fishtail. It doesn't.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
So that's the thing too, is she She goes on
to prove that it couldn't have been a human that
swam by, But it's just a funky tape, like there's
no human. You don't see any humanoid features at all.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
It's very fast, and yes it's a it's a weird tail,
but there's a lot of weird creatures out there. There's
a lot of weird eels, there's a lot of weird things.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
And the fish is really struggling for like a long
time without it's almost like a weirdly long time that
the fish is impaled on this thing. Yes, as as
if the fish has accidentally gone into some piece of
the rig itself.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
And so it's not a human implement it if I
see what you're talking about, what what the for how
long the fish is just sitting there wiggling on this
thing that's not moving, and there's no attempt to like
pull it off and put it in a put it
in a net, or put it in a bag.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
It's not how you would expect a intelligent creature to
be fishing.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
It is a little Also, if this were submersible, why
would the intelligent creature be fishing around it? Because it
seems like, if they're real, they're really really good at
avoiding humans. Yeah. Also, if we're seeing if we've got
a legend mermaid sightings happening at like the surface of
the ocean, but then we're also having them happen at

(21:28):
deep sea where humans can't even go, it does raise
a question of like how does their system allegedly work. So,
if you've got a saturation English I speak it, if
you've got a saturation diver and they go all the
way down to twenty three hundred feet, what they usually
do is they have a compartment on their rig that

(21:48):
is kept at the pressure of deep sea. So when
they acclimate to that, they just stay in that for
the entirety of their month long shift, and when it's
time to do their dives, they go into a dive
bell that's also at that pressure, and then they go
down to the bottom of the ocean or wherever it is.
That they're doing their work on, like a deep sea
break or something. And the fun fact is you open
up the dive bell and because the pressure of the
dive bell is the same as the water, you can
just open it and the water doesn't come gushing in.

(22:10):
It just stays at this like level underneath. It's really
cool because the reason they do it this way is
if you're at twenty three hundred feet, the inert gases
in your oxygen mix become gas bubbles in your blood system,
and it takes a full thirty three hours if you're
going to do a safe descent or a safe ascent
back up, because you have to stop at different levels

(22:31):
and wait for a period of time, and it gets
long grown long grays. You go up so that those
bubbles disperse correctly so you don't get the bends. Now,
assuming that if these things are real, that they work
as the same as humans is kind of a bold assumption.
But at the same time, if you take a fish
from the deep sea and you pull it up, that
automatically kills it. And I don't really see a mermaid

(22:52):
type creature that just like does deep sea diving and
then does the really really thirty three hour rise back
up and that's twenty three hundred foe. So if they're
at six thousand feet, that's like maybe three days that
they're How do whales operate? Like, do they go pretty deep?

Speaker 1 (23:07):
They don't go pretty deep because they have to stay
close enough because they breathe oxygen.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yeah, they could never do that deep they go wait,
hold up, but they're also really large. I don't know
how that yeah, packs, I guess it depends on the
kind of whale. So hotbacks typically one hundred and fifty
to two hundred ten meters. This is according to the
AI thing. Sperm whales actually can go to one thousand

(23:33):
to two thousand meters to hunt and then curveers. Beaked
whales have the record for the deepest dive, which would
be nearly three thousand meters eight hundred feet, So actually
they can go, but they might have assistant built for
which would then make sense if because they're supposed to
live in the ocean, if mermaids have that same setup,
they wouldn't maybe be constrained by that.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
I have a forming alternate theory, but I actually want
to hold it back for a couple more pieces of evidence.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Yeah, Okay, and then the second clip. It's also interesting
to me how she will grab any any potential evidence,
and all this evidence points for like different type creatures
that would fall into the mermad category. It's not like
this specific creature exists, because the second clip clearly shows
like it's it looks like humanish eyes, but it's a
very fishy head. To me, it didn't look like a human.

(24:22):
It looked like if a shark was kind of like
I couldn't tell what I was looking at, to be honest,
it was just weird. If like a shark had human
eyes and then was wearing a helmet, That's what I saw.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Hold, Honestly, I just felt like I had no context
for what I was looking at to like be able
to make sense of it.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Almost Yeah, that to me, if you told me that
was pulled from a weird like indie movie that really
didn't make it big, I would believe it. That to
me looks more like special effects. But again I don't
really know what to make of it, and I'm not
And anything can just be like the first sighting of
a species that hasn't been docu mint like, that's not difficult.
That could have just been like a really freakish shark

(25:03):
that hangs out at that level of the ocean and
we don't really see it because we don't really run
into it. To me, I don't see that and think
mermaid is the answer. Weird ocean creature could be murmaid
because that falls under weird ocean creature. But like there's
plenty of our already weird stuff. It's slight bunny trail.
But yes, one of my.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Twitter mutuals posted a video where he was talking about
canvas owens and he accidentally misspoke and he said she
never provides claims to back up her evidence.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
And it was obviously a misspeak. He obviously meant the reverse.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
But I thought about it for a little bit and
actually that that is exactly what the vast majority of
the problem with the conspiracy space is is that there's
a lot of evidence being thrown at you, but not
actually a clear claim. Because if if they made a
clear claim, if she said in this video you are
seeing Xyz yeah, or if she said mermaids are real

(26:02):
and this is the nature of mermaids and this is
the evidence, then.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
She would have to.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
And this this just goes across the board for anything
you would have to answer for whether your evidence actually
fit the claim. But if you have an amorphous claim, yes,
and the evidence is just interesting and tilating, and people
accept it because it feels interesting, But you're not actually
making a claim that would It's like you're trying to

(26:29):
prove a case without saying with your cases, and so
you're letting Basically, you're leaving it for the viewer to
come up with whatever case they like, whatever case the
evidence fits for them, and so it's like a it's
very sneaky.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
It's very sneaky. So yeah, I've seen I've seen TikTok
videos where we'll just throw a bunch of like this
looks interesting, and this looks interesting and then nod knowingly.

Speaker 8 (26:52):
Right.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
You're just like left to make the connections yourself. But
I also think those are more engaging to some people
because you enjoy filling in the gaps with your own stuff. Yeah. Yeah,
it's this is a funny.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
It's very similar to why Twilight was so successful putting
forward a blank female character. Oh okay, that's incredibly uninteresting
because it was so easy for any teenage girl to
be like, she's me because she was nothing, she was nobody.
She had nothing interesting about her, basically very and this is.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Yeah. It's like that that type of media where you
give somebody a spot that they can insert themselves into.
Although I kind of I know people have always said
that she's a Mary Sue, she's very like blank. I
feel like she's just not as blank as people claim.
I don't know that she likes her old fiction. She

(27:53):
will get sassy with people. She like, she's curious. She
just she's not like overtly weirdly, but she is. She
is more of an every man. I do agree. I
mean that's fine. I think it's what I do. Think
it's why one of the reasons why it was so
wildly popular, because it was just she was really easy
to relate to or for just any yeah, any girl.

(28:17):
Also similar to the idea of like the amorphous thing.
I think that's why I'm missing for one one is
so popular. It's like so intriguing because it's like this
weird thing happened, and this weird thing happened, and I'm
not giving you an explanation, I'm just telling you the data,
which is like very very interesting. When you're like I
have free rein to make up all my theories that
I want, and you're not telling me what I have

(28:38):
to think. And it's not disproven because if you don't
bring up an actual theory, you can't disprove the actual theory. Well,
it's like what Kennice is doing with the Charlie Kirk
they She's like, look at all this weird stuff. It
couldn't like there's just too many weird things to explain, Okay,
but you have to in order for a pile of
weird things to actually be a pile. Yeah, you have

(28:58):
to show how they're connected. Yeah, if you're just like, oh,
this plane was from Egypt, and then also there was
this Mormon bee cult and then also blah blah blah,
and then also you could use this trapdoor potentially and
like at some point it's like, okay, sure you could say, okay, those.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Things are weird, but they're not weird in a connected
way that they could actually stack on each other and
become compelling. And I think that that that's so much
of what is done in the conspiracy space is just
throwing a lot of like little things at you, and
the assumption baked in is these are all important. None
of these are because there's so many of them, they

(29:41):
can't be a coincidence.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
The sheer weight of data points right.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
The idea of like, if I can show you enough
weird things, that can't be a coincidence. But that is
only compelling if you say I saw mermaids on three
different occasions.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
That starts to be you have to have something that
actually stacks on top of itself. Yeah, that like you
might have one coincidental piece of evidence. All the pieces
of evidences have the point in the same direction. Yeah,
for them to stack. When you got like, there's a

(30:18):
lot of conflicting evidence that the ocean has these weird
things in it, but it's never the same thing or whatever, Right, Like, congratulations,
you've proven that the ocean is weird.

Speaker 5 (30:26):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
Hanne Channity had a great tweet mocking Candace. He said,
I started working with Candace Owns on the Charlie Kirk
assassination investigation. You'll never believe what I found. Charlie was
assassinated on September tenth. On that very same day, a
Jewish guy in Miami was caught speeding and passing a
red light. You cannot convince me these two aren't connected.
But this isn't the end of it. I trace back
the license plate of that car to a guy whose

(30:48):
sister went to Israel on a visit eight years ago.
It's unbelievable how deep this goes. Everything is connected. I mean,
that's that's what honestly. Yeah, my goodness. Okay, So let's
go to that second video. It's shorter.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
I would I would be more interested in like getting
on here and debunking all of Kanna's claims if so
many people weren't already like doing it.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Yeah, and no one cares. No one wants to hear
the debunking. It's uh, I say, no one many people
I'm sure don't care. Yeah, for those of you who
are interested. Sean Ryan, uh, the Sean Ryan showed did
one where they went into like the ballistics issue and
some of like some of the more compelling, like the
more the stronger.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Pieces of the claims. And I haven't watched the whole
thing yet, but the clips I've seen are really good.
So it was explaining how basically if because the big
claim is like a thirty out six, you know that
couldn't stop it. And the guy was saying, like, once
you hit bone, you don't have a bullet anymore, so

(31:57):
the idea would be it hit and then kept like
would have gone down like glanced often. Anyway, I'm probably
presenting that really badly, but it was just an interesting like,
this is this person who actually knows what he's talking
about as far as like the behavior of bullets inside
a human body. And then the other thing he pointed
out was like, we are pretending like we have all

(32:20):
the evidence, but in any murder of investigation ever, it's
very normal and just standard practice to hold back a
lot of the little details because you want to when
you're interviewing a witness, if you hear them say something,
say a detail that's not been publicized, then that that

(32:41):
gives credence to like, oh, yeah, they know what they're
talking about. They're not just getting on, yeah, you know,
baiting their fifteen minutes of fame by parroting something.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
They also keep back information too, to know if a
confession is legitimate. So if a killer left a blue
sandal at the scene, and they're like, let's not tell
people that the killers and I freaking lost my favorite
blue sand although exactly exactly exactly that, there's a lot
of that and it's not lying to hold stuff back
like that. It's it's an essential part of the of
the processes. So also, we were talking about Charlie Kirk

(33:14):
and you can't see it, but I have my I
Am Charlie Kirk shirt which is exciting, Yes exactly for you,
thank you mind just ship. But I don't have the
exact one you have. I have the one that you
got to here.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
I am send me one. Yeah, okay, sorry, we are
back to back to business.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
I'm back to business.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
I'm back with more in the world. What I'm back

(34:06):
with more?

Speaker 2 (34:07):
That second one looks like yeah, and not even like
a high budget movie. Yeah, the first one, I think
this sounds like they were speaking Rassian or something. I
wouldn't be surprised if you can get really really convincing
mermaid silicone tails. Yeah, like that's just the thing you
can do. Yeah, And it would not surprise me if
these people feel like they're seeing a mermaid and that's

(34:28):
genuine surprising their voices, but it was just someone doing
some sort of like stunt. Yeah, so maybe at this point,
with video the way it is now and because of
those really realistic silicone tails, I sadly I say sadly
loosely because I'm not like hitched my wagon onto this.
I don't really super carrer either way. But even if
there was legitimate video footage of a mermaid, we just

(34:51):
would like just yeahnt it anyway?

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Well, this is also like a very human place, like
this is such an easy spot for somebody to.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Just be swimming. It's not in the middle of the ocean,
it's not off the side of a boat like. Yeah.
And I if mermaids are real, they have succeeds survived
a long time, not just running into humans a bunch, right,
So it seems like this is not normal unless it's
got rabies or something. I mean this, this is like
a concrete like inlet. Yeah, this is a very human location, Like,

(35:25):
no Mermaid's going to be swimming around in here, even
if they're real. And also, if we're gonna go with
how all the ancient cultures understood them, they're not just
chill and vibe and they're like carnivorous and like to
eat humans. And so if this were a real mermaid,
it would like be like here it comes, swim with me. Yeah.
And then and then the second clip she showed it

(35:46):
for such a short period of time and like actually
didn't even say anything about it at all, And I think,
like that makes me think she's just being straight up dishonest,
Like you know that you're just taking a clip from Yeah,
it could be that I just took it as she's
just really but not goebbal is the right word, it's
not the wrong word. Just really believes anything because she
really wants it to be true. But it could be

(36:07):
that she's being the thought.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Well, there's there's such an incentive if your platform, well
there's two incentives. If your platform is about a certain topic,
you have to keep finding stuff about the topics. So
even if the first fifty things that you showed and
talked about were legitimate, at some point you're going to
run out and you're going to start because like you're making.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Money off of it. But the other thing is that
the more wild clips you can find, the more viral
they go. There's a there's a massive incentive to fake,
to fake new clips or find new clips that could
be taken a certain way. And if she's at the
elk of like just throwing things at the wall to

(36:47):
see what sticks, it could be that her motif is
not I am sitting here trying to scientifically prove or
disprove clips just like throwing out anything of like this
is a potential memori side, this is a potential memorid setting,
and it's always falling on thee the answer to determine
if it's real or not. I think that's more of
a her approach of just like anything that could possibly
be proof here you go. Yeah, which on the one
hand is lame. But on the other hand, if you're

(37:09):
trying to find everything that is potentially being taken as
Mermaid evidence to sort through yourself, it's a good resource
to find. That's fine.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
My Again, she has not attested where this is where yeah,
I mean, unless it was in the caption, And it
is interesting that she she it's one of those video
replies to a comment and the comment is I need
my daily dose of Mermaids. And it's like, that's that's
what your people want. They want every day to see
a new clip of Mermaids. That's what your audience wants,

(37:38):
that's what you're giving them. And if you are trying
to actually be a resource, if that's if if what
you're doing is like I am not saying one way
or the other I am just presenting to you every
single weird clip from the ocean that I find. Then
the least you could do is say, this is where
the clip is from, this is the time, this is who,
this is all the data that I can give you

(37:58):
about where this clip came from. And she's not doing that,
and maybe she and like maybe she does genuinely doesn't know,
and she's just sharing it along.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
From people who were also being dishonest or not particularly
interested in the truth. There was I'm trying to remember
there was a person who also was doing more mad
type videos around the same time, I think, and she
had the same shtick, and I forget if she was

(38:28):
more scientifically minded than others, but yeah, I think it
was like a rage At the time. I'm trying to
find an old post I wasn't gonna bring up, but
I actually feel like mentioning at this time. Okay, okay,
it's just so this is on Reddit. So I was

(38:49):
looking up as I was trying to figure out how
I want to deframe this show, I also looked up
like verbal accounts of mermaid encounters, and I very quickly
was like, you could just make stuff up. You could
just say stuff. It's really hard to know if even
someone could know what makes something seem more plausible. But
this one I kept thinking about. So I'm gonna bring
it up. I'm gonna drop it in the notes so

(39:11):
you can bring it up if you if you would
like to, so they can see it. I'll just consert
it between the videos just a second boop. There we go. Okay,
and it's gonna be the comment by one Amphibian five
A three once. You just have to scroll down a
little bit. Yes, okay, this one, so I shall read

(39:32):
it for you. Oh gee, I'm so happy I found
this post. The post was just like, do you have
any Mermaid settings? Okay, I really suck at explaining things
in English isn't my native language, so please keep that
in mind. Oh so, one thing that I love about
Reddit is that you'll have these people who say English
is at my native language, please forgive me for bisching
the language, And they come up with this like novel
in perfect English. And then you got these native English

(39:53):
speakers who are like, yeah, you good, I are knowing
that you don't speak English well or whatever. This is
something that's been bothering me for years. I'm twenty female
and when I was thirteen, me, my dad, and my
younger brother went to Thailand. We traveled to Fifi Island
or Pipe Island by boat with one of those travel
companies for tourists, and stopped by different islands to snorkel.

(40:15):
On one of those stops, me and my brother were
right next to each other looking at a fish that
I found really cute. To paint the picture better, at
this moment, me and my brother were snorkling in the
water right by a floating island, while the others in
our group were a bit further away from this island.
This island was like a chunk of land that extended
downward into the water, rather than having a gradual slope. Suddenly,
our dad called up for us. Someone in our group

(40:36):
saw a small shark and everyone was gathering around to
see it. My brother swam over there, but for some
reason I stayed put and kept watching the different fish
that were swimming so closely to me. Then something caught
my attention. There seemed to be smaller caves underwater by
the shore, and I saw something slowly coming out of there.
It was similar to a human head facing down towards
the bottom of the ocean. I completely froze and froze

(40:57):
up and kept staring. The person kind of flowed it
out of the cave, never faced up toward the surface,
and did it really slowly. Nothing of this person that
I could see was moving. By this point, I could
see the back of the head and most of the back.
The person had really sparse black hair slicked down to
the scalp. Their skin looked gray, and the spine was
completely pronounced. I was so sure that I was looking

(41:17):
at a corpse, and I completely froze up. I couldn't
breathe or move time felt like it was standing still.
The person kept floating out of the cave, and that's
when I started seeing its tail. The tail was dark
gray and looked like a stereotypical mermaid tail. I blinked
multiple times, convinced I was hallucinating, but I kept seeing it.
I've never believed in the supernatural, but this thing was
only a few meters below me, and I could see

(41:38):
it so clearly. I felt a sense of danger. I
knew that I wasn't supposed to be seeing this, and
I was terrified that it would see me and attack me.
But the thing never once faced up. Once it was out,
it swayed to the side and kept a close distance
to the island and disappeared into another cave. After a
few seconds, I snapped out of it. I quickly swam
to my dad and brother. I burst into tears and
frantically told them that we had to get back on

(41:58):
the boat right away. Dad asked me what happened, and
I told him what I saw. Obviously, he didn't believe me,
and I got furious at it and got furious at
me for lying. When we got back to the boat,
I told him again and stood by the fact that
I wasn't lying. My father told me that he really
hoped I was. That it was either a lie or
that I was insane and had to be locked up
in a mental hospital. Oh great, Dad, I knew how
crazy all this sounded, and honestly, I didn't even believe myself.

(42:21):
I decided to tell him that I made it all up.
Since that day, I've tried to convince myself that I
made it all up, but I've never experienced any hallucinations,
and I know what I saw. I've told others, but
of course most of them thought I made it up.
It's so insanely frustrating, feeling like you're being gasolped by
the entire world. And I truly hope that someone out
there believes me. The thing that struck with me about that,
I don't know whether I think it's real one we'
or another. If it's not real, they're just like a

(42:42):
good storyteller, but it is a common motif that has
showed up for the Mermaids to be like this weird
grayish color with sparse like Gollum type hair mm and
this one is like creepy mm hm. Anyway, so I
don't know. Again, you could just say things there, Yeah
you can. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
There's parts of the story where I'm like okay, and
then there's parts what they just hit a little bit
weird in it might be it might be the not
not your first language thing, but like that that a
dad would respond, you are either lying or you have
to be locked up in a mental hospital because one
time you saw something, as opposed to like saying, oh, you're.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
Confused, it must have been the water or whatever. That
to me would make me wonder did he see it too?
And he really didn't want it to be real and
he could not stand the kids on it too.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
The yeah, I mean people are weird. Like, for sure,
people are really weird. So I'm not gonna say like,
no dad would ever respond like that. But that's a
really weird response.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
It is, and it could that could be just the
language thing. I don't know, Like the story stuck with
me for some reason, just like it's a very strong
mental image too. It is a really strong mental image.
And this would almost make a wonder because the way
it was acting, in the way it looked like a corpse.
If it is some weird fish type thing that just
reads really human in the water and it's just doing

(44:07):
fish things, and that's why I didn't like look up
at her. But it could be some sort of predatory
type fish. Sure, Okay, we do have to pause. Back
after brief brief back after brief pause. I didn't know
I had made myself a tongue twister. She had to

(44:27):
pause real quick to just like chug a handle of vodka.
Now she's hammered. Yes, now that I'm pregnant, I can't
drink on stream. We have to do it. I had
to pause because I had to have to pay again,
That's not why I have to peel lot. Wow, don't

(44:51):
perfectly don't now this this story is.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
The more I think about the story, the more that
it bothers me a no, it's not real kind of way.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
I think in large part like it. The dad's reaction
seems is very cinematic as opposed to being like an actual,
real feeling of a reaction. Is the only option that
I see otherwise, not saying that there's only one, just
the only one that I think of is that this
person does have a pattern of saying things or seeing things,

(45:26):
and so he's kind of at the end of his rope.
I can see something like that. So the lie is
not that.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
The lie is that you actually do see things and
to listening quite a bit, or you actually do see
demonic things. Yeah, and it's possible that they're not lying,
that they just don't remember that they just took all
that as normal and just wondered why the dad always
I don't know, I'm just respecting. Yeah, No, there's something
off about this story. But yes, it could be any

(45:55):
a variety of different things that are off, and the
dad could just be like a psychopath.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Yeah, and it could be that, like he's just really
really quick to anything, the questions his worldview he just
cannot accept and.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
It's kind of just I don't know, or like had
seen something when he was younger and had tried really
hard to not see. My other issue with this is
that it's set up as they're touring.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
They're on a boat tour to five flight islands.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Yeah, islands that are frequently visited like this is this
is a frequent touristication. So for one of these creatures
to be in one of these locations seems seems unlikely
unless it was sick or something.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
And that's why it looked so bad, because if you
think about like, if you're you don't usually see foxes.
They exist, but you don' usually see them. So if
you're seeing them, it usually means it's either sick or
there's an overpopulation. But you do see foxes every now
and then.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
Yeah, that's a good point that they're usually gonna be
very good at staying out of your way. But if
it's an old one that's just kind of waiting to
die or something like that, then then you might.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
Also speaking of fox's quick tangent to something not marrid related.
But I'm traumatized by it, so you guys have to
be traumatized by it. There's a mister Balin's story. So
mister Ballin does like YouTube videos or he will real stories.
I mean he'll embellish them a little. But this one
I think was like a fan sent in the story
where she was camping out in the woods and we're

(47:31):
gonna really just like condense it. And she's having this
dream where these people are trying to force this crown
of thorns under her head and it's really hurting, and
she wakes up and it still hurts, and she like
she's in pitch dark, but she feels like there's witness
around her head, so she like calls out for help
and her friend turns on a flashlight and starts screaming
and like something runs away. Turns out a fox was
trying to eat her head and her dream was just

(47:53):
like turning the pain into a dream thing instead of
waking her up, and had taken like twenty bites out
of her scalp. They were able to suit it back up,
but like, what the frick should take rabies shots And
I was like, please get also other shots for like
I don't know what that thing had, but it's probably
like really bad. I mean probably rabies, Like yeah, freaking,

(48:14):
like that's not normal fox behavior. But they just come
up to him to start eating them, like fox is
too small, Like actually, yeah, they don't like ever, you know, like,
oh gosh, she got killed by a pack of foxes.
Not a thing. It would be really funny if she
was wearing some like scented like shampoo or something in

(48:37):
the fox was like, ah, I love fries. The fox
was also having a dream where it was eating a
delicious berry Pie's a horrible misunderstanding all of it. Yeah,
I was like, thanks, I hate this. See that's the
kind of thing where it's so weird that like I

(48:57):
don't believe that he would made it up, Like it's
just so out of pock it. Well, and she had
like specific details about the dream she was having and
and the fact that like when they fixed her they
were able to hide like the scars in the hairline
and she does not camp ever. Again, Yes, it's just
like a weird freak thing that happened. Anyway, fun fun

(49:18):
for my diversion. So let's go back to the Mermaid
videos because now we're going to launch into the saga
of Sauce ninety essentially. Okay, I a while back, we
did some Sauce ninety videos, maybe two or three. Yeah,
I think it was. It would have been on like

(49:41):
and uh uh unhinged. Yeah, I was gonna say overdose.
What was it called overhingeddse Yeah, so I'm familiar at
least up to his car accident, I think. Okay. I
don't know then if this will be a lot of
new information for you.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
But it will be fun to review m in light
of like because that I believe was before I did
my research on Mermaids and like before like her analysis,
and I think that's probably details of missing. So yes,
I'm excited to get back into this. And there's more
I could have included that I didn't just for time
saying yeah fair enough. Yeah, because he's his whole personality

(50:17):
that's also built around this thing, although I don't think.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
He posts about it anymore. I went to his TikTok page.
I found it, and like, I downloaded TikTok just so
I can find it, and then it was just like
him rapping and smoking weed, and I was like and
beleeving TikTok again. Interesting Okay, yeah, without.

Speaker 5 (50:33):
At least mentioning the legend Souce ninety. There's no doubt
you would have seen this video. He already knows that's

(50:57):
not a dolphin. Check out the following video of him
dodding a fellow or TikToker.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
Secondly, what you're hearing that is not a dolphins, bro, No,
this is what a dolphins sounds like.

Speaker 7 (51:13):
That's what it sounds like.

Speaker 4 (51:17):
That's a dolphin.

Speaker 7 (51:20):
That is a dolphin.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Kind of like. No, damn, what you're hearing.

Speaker 7 (51:25):
Is a siren.

Speaker 5 (51:27):
It didn't stop there because she totally came back.

Speaker 7 (51:31):
I do where is he at? What the what is
that noise from? What is that? Thy?

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Where are you?

Speaker 7 (51:48):
This is crazy? I heard it.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
I heard it, I hear it.

Speaker 8 (52:00):
Oh my god, that's been crazy.

Speaker 4 (52:06):
That's like and then this happened?

Speaker 8 (52:11):
Kratz, How mister Kratz time him, mister crabs.

Speaker 7 (52:14):
Actually, you know what, hope me.

Speaker 6 (52:15):
I'm gonna throw you back in your ocean because we're
not catching you.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Be free, Be free, homie.

Speaker 9 (52:29):
Sometimes you gotta sometimes you gotta let him free, you know,
sometimes you just gotta let him roam free.

Speaker 7 (52:40):
Let's just look right back. Let's see if you can.

Speaker 8 (52:43):
Find oh yo oh hell no, wait, no, no, fucking wait,

(53:07):
are you fucking kidding me?

Speaker 5 (53:11):
Like they're clearly aware of each other's existence and they're
interacting honestly.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
What's next?

Speaker 5 (53:19):
Please go check out the original videos and like, let's
just wait to see what happens.

Speaker 4 (53:25):
Okay, I can't keep going on about.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
Sorry, what are your thoughts?

Speaker 1 (53:29):
I have gone back and forth about sas ninety. There's
first of all, he looks he looks a little crazy.

Speaker 10 (53:41):
Yeah, I mean yeah, yes, the the first video where
he says dolphins.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
I don't have any particular reasons I think that that
is not like a real video with real audio.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
I don't have any.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
Particular like it is this, it is that right about it?
And then it almost seems like he got fed something.
He got fed a line he went really viral, and
then he went with it, and then I wonder if
everything after that is fake.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
I was wondering the same thing too, so I could
see him wondering if it's maybe not dolphins, but still
phrasing it as dolphins. He tries to claim, well, I
didn't know how it would be received, so I just
said dolphins. But it wouldn't surprise me if someone was like, yeah, bro,
that's sirens, and he was like, oh, I could get big.
I have something here.

Speaker 11 (54:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Yeah, the crab thing, I go back and forth. It's
hard to tell if it's the same crab or not,
just because the top you see before he throws it,
and then when it's thrown back you see the bottom
and there's a significant difference in particles. But like it
could be the same crab to the other side. To me,
what the thing that strikes me as odd about that
clip is that between the time where he throws the

(55:06):
crab and when it comes back, allegedly he seems to
be like doing filler talk to kill time as he's
waiting for a queue. Yeah, he doesn't seem to be
just going about his day and then interrupted again. It's
like he's waiting for it to get thrown back, right,
because like there's no there's no discernible point of the video, yes,
other than to do this crab to catch the sun camera. Yeah,

(55:30):
and he's not saying this has happened before. Look, this
is gonna happen right yeah to me. I and you
don't see enough, like if if you had a broader
camera angle and you see the crab coming up from
the ocean. That would be a little different, right, But
you don't.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
It seems like something that would be extremely easy to
fake with his with his buddies.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
Yes, yeah, And.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
Like the first dolphins one is the most compelling one
because there's it's out of no right, Yeah, he's not
making a claim that sirens. But then once he once
he's he's gotten viral, he's gotten prompted that it's sirens.
Then he puts out, oh the noise is.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Back, yeah, and it's it's so loud and it's so
like obviously stereotypically sirens. Yeah, And it's like, I think
you're just playing something off a speaker at this point,
and it could be. So I tried to listen to
because there's a bunch of footage of him hearing this stuff,
and I tried to I'm not a sound engineer, but
I tried to see if is it the same sound

(56:30):
playing over again? Like did he just take the sound
from that first track and play that over speakers? Did
he isolate that somehow? I don't know. I'm I'm not
the person to go to be like, this is legitimate
audio recording and it's coming from the ocean and not
from a speaker. I will say there are other videos
where it seems like either the rest of the Corona
ship is in on it too, or they are also

(56:52):
experiencing it because they're they're also hearing this stuff and
interacting with it. Yeah, No, I definitely. I mean, if
he's playing a sound on Stoke's like they are in
on it, Yeah, I don't know it. Some of his
reactions are manic enough to be like, Okay, I could
buy that this is really happening to you. Yeah. And

(57:12):
on the other hand, I guess the other the other
potential is like, is there a creature that we have
not documented that makes these sorts of noises that like,
it's not going to have that demonic effect of a
siren on you. It's not going to have like that
mythological effect. So the community that's following him had a

(57:37):
theory as to why he wasn't getting, you know, killed,
And he tries to claim how much of this is
back feeling after the fact I watched a couple of
interviews with him, He tries to claim, No, I did
feel myself drawn to the edge of the boat, like
I would find myself kind of tempted to jump in,
but it wasn't overwhelming, and so the theory is, you know,
this is a siren, a young one in training, and

(57:57):
that like it's it's it's trying, but it's not as effective.
And there's we'll see in clips later. It follows him
into the harbor as they're bringing the ship in, and
they're saying, well, I don't know how they had this information,
maybe from lore, maybe just making it up in like
the sour community. You know, you can't fail at this.
You have to die if you fail to bring him in.
So it's desperately trying to follow him in to get
him to jump to me as as that's not him

(58:19):
saying that. That's like people on building up like a
copy pasta. Yeah, the mythology, Yeah, this is I mean,
I watching people make mythology here makes people go like, okay,
is this how mythologies were always created? And you can
sort of see how to follow. I think we see
that in urban legends, and I think we just kind
of distinguish them because like one is new, one is old,
but it's kind of the same thing. I'm actually reading

(58:41):
a compilation of Japanese urban legends and you can see
how there's like different ones that have crossover. You can
see how they kind of used to be one and
kind of merged and then those are split and then
split again. And it's it's the way, the same way language.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
Because it's it's a story with more power than if
just one person sat down and wrote a book, because
it's it's a bunch of people working together to make
the most compelling version of the story.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
It's a group project oral history. Yeah. Yeah, and you're
gonna remember, like whenever somebody tells you the story, you're
gonna remember the most visceral part of it, and that's
what you're gonna tell, and then that's gonna get embellished
and added on to and so yeah, you're gonna build up, yeah,
by this very organic way, the most striking, punchy story

(59:26):
you could possibly and that it grows to the point
where it has some real staying power over the years,
even after whatever the original thing. I remember, very very
early in the show, one of the very first episodes,
we talked about the Bunny Man Bridge piece of urban legend,
and it's very much an urban legend. It's very much

(59:46):
like a story that grew up like that and most
morbid like tillating. And it could be you know, I
didn't sit and listen to all the whale song ever,
and it could be that there's some type of whale
that either we're not familiar with that we're just not
familiar with the whales doing this kind of song, and
it kind of sounds eerie and kind of human. And

(01:00:07):
so even in the olden days, sailors heard and we're like,
this is just really odd.

Speaker 7 (01:00:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Now, the idea, I'm not going off of what Sauce
is saying, because he could be saying it because he
knows he's supposed to say this, But the idea that
this thing lures you into the water, I'd be curious
how that part of the legend started. Yeah, And I think.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
That we like, in a lot of ways we're missing,
Like we don't have people going on years and years
long journeys where they're losing their nutrition, they're losing their minds,
they're probably not drinking enough water, they're drinking way too
much beer.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
They advertized by the light on the water. Yeah, they
haven't like had real good human interational, like they are
losing their minds. Yeah, and then they hear a beautiful
whale song, Like it might just be one of those
like last straw type of issues as opposed to like
the act the singing is the actual problem. Could well be,
but you have to like factor in, like how much

(01:01:04):
of this is demonic or at least has a demonic
element to it. Yeah, so let's go to the sauce
ninety highlights from a live video. Oh yeah, so he
did a lot of this stuff live, didn't he. Yeah,
that's where it got kind of interesting to me because
he's like, there's a longer clip, I'm not gonna show it,

(01:01:25):
but he's just doing his work, interacting with the sound,
interacting with his coworkers, has to set down the phone
to draw in the line, and it feels just very
relaxed of like it doesn't feel as set up for
a thing. So if it is set up, everyone is
on the same page of orchestrating this. They're not just
humoring him. I think, I'm not sure. Well, I do

(01:01:47):
wonder if like they are in.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
Some sort of pot of whales, like they are like
that there's some true peace, Like that's what is the
case with a lot of these things, right that, like
that there's some truth in it and that's why it's
so compelling, and the sorting it out part is a
difficult part.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
Yeah, let's play this any more more flatter for discussion.

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
Did you catch Sources Live recently?

Speaker 5 (01:02:19):
Unfortunately, with the time difference, I actually missed this, but
fortunately so many of you guys sent me what happened.
So in case you missed it, here is everything from
Sources Live.

Speaker 8 (01:02:30):
Do you want to go swiming?

Speaker 7 (01:02:43):
Can you hear me?

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
Where are you?

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
That's over here?

Speaker 8 (01:02:58):
Wait no, now it's there, show yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
Okay, new theory. Oh yeah, fully grown siren. But cannabis
is everyone this jump and he's like, guys, what's up?
What's going on? But like it takes your like drive
and passion like it does. It would be so fascinating

(01:03:35):
if like the whole ships they're all stoners, which is
not difficult to imagine. If if one guy on the
ship is like, that's off the community thing.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
Although I don't know what the like rules would be
for like the mates and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
But yeah, so they're on a commercial deep sea fishing vessel,
so it's not like a government thing. It wouldn't necessarily
be super regulated. It could be just like the person
who owns the commercial deep see fishing vessel does not care.
It is like, as long as the work gets done
and you don't die, whatever you do to blow off
steam is fine with me. I don't know. Yeah, so,
like they found this pot of sirens.

Speaker 12 (01:04:12):
They're not going over.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
And the sirens are like so freakin mad, and that's
why they keep following them. They're like, at this point,
it is a pride thing. It is an ego thing.
This would be easier to believe if we were seeing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
Like regularly go down men regularly going overboard.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Well, also, it would be interesting to see, like someone
do a sound breakdown, because it's hard with just headphones
on a phone filming to get a feel for what
angle the sounds are coming from. They do seem to
my ears connecting with my eyes connecting with everything. Does
buy that it's coming from off the ship, but I

(01:04:53):
mean speakers. I don't know. I don't know how all
this works. I'm just I forgot that there was Yeah,
it's not like it just a carefully edited video and
he does several long lives where this is just happening intermittently.
I don't know if I included the clip that there's
one where it kind of sounds like people are saying
it sounds like it's saying it's name. He has never

(01:05:14):
said he's seen one of these, but sometimes people will
take a still from his life and be like this
little wave thing looks weird, or like this thing looks weird,
and he'll entertain them. But he's not made the claim
that he's actually gotten a visual on these things.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
So if you want to, it would be really interesting
to me if like he knows exactly what it is,
Like whatever it is, he knows exactly what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
Yeah, so oh yeah, that goes back to one of
the things he did with his eyes earlier. It either
reads untruthful to me or it reads like he I
know something you don't know, yeah, which can which can
read untruthful. If I know something you don't know, is
I'm lying? Or it could be like you guys think
it's Sirens, but I know it's Metatron come back to
take us all or something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
Also side note, he has a very mischievous Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
Metatron being a word for enoch like an old word,
will never make sense to me. Metatron is so clearly
coded as a new name based on science fiction, like
we've got our Transformers, Metatron and Amazon Prime. I don't
know anyway, not even remotely connected to this video.

Speaker 6 (01:06:23):
I can't hear it that one.

Speaker 12 (01:06:29):
That one echoed a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
And maybe maybe I'm just like nim picking, but like
the sounds just feel so stereotypical of like this is
exactly how you would fake it. Maybe maybe there's like
some internal like we all know what this sounds like, yeah,
because I would argue, is it is it stereotypical? Because
the stereotype is based on the reality, so you would

(01:06:53):
run into that, like, I mean, it is a it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
Is a I feel nothing when I hear it. I'm like,
and maybe it's just because like it's too like much
of a movie. I'm like, Okay, well.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
Yeah, we're so inoculated against sort of stuff like this.
If you were out there experiencing that sound, I feel
like your feelings would like the exact same setting, exact
same sound, but you're in it and you know it's
not a speaker. I feel like you would feel something
if that, if it's real the other.

Speaker 7 (01:07:20):
Side of the damn quote.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
That me know, I'm not crazy.

Speaker 6 (01:07:34):
It's the same freaking pitch, same sound, and everything like
then it dies out.

Speaker 10 (01:08:00):
I don't know what to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
It's like he's not scared enough, So I think at
this point he's encountered in a bunch. He also on weed.
I don't think anything really right off, But I was
thinking to your point about the stereotypical sounds. If it
was more like singing like then I'd be like, Okay,

(01:08:23):
that's definitely fake. But this sounds like an ocean sound
like a whale type thing. Sure, And it's like the
same repeating like it doesn't have like a ton of
options for what sounds it's making. Sure, So to me,
I could be like, yeah, I can see a weird
whale making these sounds following you for a long time.
You eventually go crazy and jump out, and you're like,
he wants me to join it. It's a vuluptuous woman

(01:08:45):
I'm diving in anyway. Yeah, like the idea of like.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
The reality isn't that anyone ever jumped after just a
few minutes of listening to it, But yes, like the
drip of it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
Yeah, And I will say, as I was doing the
research for this, I spent like several hours like watching
these clubs, and I started to feel like weirdly sick
to my stomach, not like disturbed or scare, But it
was just like something feels wrong and not wrong in it.
I feel like I'm being lied to, but like I
don't know, and like you can't go off of feelings
that you're having in the middle of the night when
you're but I was just like something felt like it
was starting to get under my skin hearing that sound

(01:09:21):
over and over again. I think that the more we
talk about it, the more I'm like a little bit
agitated of like can't put my finger on the truth.
And I think that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
Sometimes like stuff like this does get to you in
that like I can't make it make sense.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
I can't. And it might be something about the frequency too,
Like there are frequency like in for sound can really
really disturb a person you don't even know you're picking
up on it. So if the sound has some sort
of frequency that is kind of distressing at long exposure,
like that also would go to like sailors jumping into
the water at a certain point. Side note, things that
are distressing after long exposure, there's a brief period where

(01:09:59):
they I thought the certain shade of pink was really
really calming, because in the first twenty minutes that they
studied it, it was really calming. What they didn't realize
is that after twenty minutes it starts to create like this,
just like visceral aggression in you. And they only discovered
that after they painted a bunch of prisons on the
inside pink because they thought it'd be really calming, and
then it just drove them nuts. Oh my goodness. Anyway,

(01:10:22):
I forgot what the pink was called.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
There was a study done on a similar idea of
on coke versus pepsi.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
Oh yeah, yeah, And they tried to prove in with
just taking one zip blind testing whether people preferred coke
or pepsi and one sip, people largely, like by a lombshot,
preferred pepsi. But when they tested the whole can people

(01:10:50):
prefer coke because it's a higher sugar content in pepsi,
and so it's like too much. After a little while,
it kind of fatigues your taste buds, and it's yeah,
but that initial sweetness is more satisfying than what you're having.

Speaker 9 (01:11:03):
Yeah, yep, show yourself, baby, Come on, where are you
back girl?

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
Come on?

Speaker 5 (01:11:21):
Man.

Speaker 8 (01:11:27):
Honestly, I think this thing is like playing with me
right now.

Speaker 13 (01:11:30):
Like it thinks this is fun.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
He's got to be playing on tape of.

Speaker 7 (01:11:36):
A game or something.

Speaker 5 (01:11:37):
Absolutely, her screams are just getting louder and louder.

Speaker 4 (01:11:41):
It's like she's getting frustrated. It's almost like there's more
than one.

Speaker 13 (01:11:46):
Now you're surprised.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
I haven't like been shut off or a block or
band right.

Speaker 5 (01:11:51):
Even you spoke too soon my friend, because he actually
did get banned for that. We thought it was going
to be permanently, but luckily it got restored, like he's
always band. And then somebody saw this. This is what

(01:12:14):
somebody found in the background of one of Sauce's videos.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
So you see that little splotch at the back. I know,
the horizon, I think is what she's pointing to. I
don't put a lot of stock into because I think
it's just bomb shutting up for all. Whay Yeah, yeah,
Like if you squint, you can see the suggestion of eyes,
but that's just I think paradolia. Yeah, like you have
to be told what to see before you it. Yeah,

(01:12:46):
and then of course you're putting that like creepy music
over it to get that like.

Speaker 4 (01:12:52):
Kind of looks like someone's watching him. Cleo is just
having a little peek at the.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
Top of the wave here.

Speaker 4 (01:12:57):
I don't know what do you think.

Speaker 5 (01:12:59):
But while we're here, I want to show you another
video where people have pointed out lights in the background
of sources videos. So not only is she saying jump
for me, people have noticed lights coming from the water.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
Which see like, you don't hear it until you're told
what to hear. I actually did when I was hearing it. Oh, really,
the light in the water could be like by aluminescence,
But there does seem to be a connection in like
lare and legend and clam sightings of like they're being
kind of like orbs of light under the water connected
to the mermaid stuff, which when you talk about that
and you talk about like settings of Bigfoot also connect

(01:13:42):
to orbs, it makes you wonder about like some like
demonic thing of like there's like a consistency across the
board with this one calling card. I don't know no.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
Because like what's his name? Hit them off? John keel
Hill talked about how like you used to be. They said, Oh,
it's it's a witch on a broom with her lantern
that I'm seeing and then it's now it's UFOs. Now
it's now it's these clusters of like you have these

(01:14:13):
you see this cryptid and you see these lights, and
you see this ufhone, and like all of these things
are happening at the same time, and you see a
lot of these hot spots like Skinwalker Ranch, where you're
just seeing all the sorts of phenomena. You're just you're
seeing the cryptids and you're seeing the lights, and you're
seeing the UFOs, and so why are those things comorbid?

(01:14:36):
And it's like, Okay, is it some sort of demonic
activity that people are seeing what they're willing to accept
and so like their brain is just like, Okay, you're
seeing lights, Okay, you're.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
Seeing Now my alternative theory that I'm working on pulling
together from other sources, so it's not like mine. I
didn't originate it. That's the idea that you know, angels
have modes of transportation and like they're not in the
same dimension, but there is some crossover and what you

(01:15:08):
can see and so the orbs you might be seeing
and the stuff you're trying to fill in the gaps
around it with like hallucinations to try to make them
make sense. It's like some sign of their transportation methods.
And one of the reasons why I kind of give
some stuck to that is because John Kill does mention
some of these people who had these sightings had radiation
burns on their eyes. So it makes you wonder, Okay, like,

(01:15:30):
whatever this thing is, there's some strange additional detail that
feels kind of important. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
Yeah, though this seems to be higher levels of radiation
around these things. And then you wonder of like, okay,
is there the creature and then there's the creature's mode
of transportation, And those are the kind of the things
that are coming together where we're assuming that Bigfoot is
not a creature that just walks around, or Mothman's not
actually just walks around, but Mothman travels in a her

(01:16:00):
or something.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
Yeah, like the flaming chariots that you know, Biblical people
saw and didn't know how to describe. Yeah, because what
are the odds that angels actually travel by chariot, which
is something we don't even use anymore because we're advanced
past that, right, versus like the best mode of transportation
I can think of as a chariots. So that's what
I'm gonna call it that. That's the word I'm going
to use literally have yeah. Yeah, Well and then you

(01:16:21):
see like that all over Greek mythology of the God's
traveling in chariots across the sky, yeah, and all that stuff,
and then you're like, ah, interesting, interesting, Okay, yeah, you
can continue.

Speaker 5 (01:16:36):
Place wouldn't be the first time, which we've seen and
discussed many times.

Speaker 4 (01:16:46):
Someone also pointed out it sounds.

Speaker 5 (01:16:48):
Like she's actually calling him by his name, not source,
like his real name.

Speaker 4 (01:17:05):
I don't know what to do right now, like like
there's only like so, like.

Speaker 7 (01:17:10):
What do I throw her?

Speaker 8 (01:17:11):
Like a clean like this bitch, like a cohax like
clamitch I got.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
It's interesting that he doesn't seem to be hearing, but
several people in the comments are, and I can hear
what they're saying, Like I'm not saying I think that
she's actually saying that, but I can hear what they're hearing.
Is that right? It's also interesting how he talks about her.
She's like both in awe and kind of disrespectful and
kind of like he's very He's talking about it is

(01:17:40):
like how I would talk. I wouldn't talk in the
same terms, but like about my cat, and I'm just
really used to like, yeah, rue, what does she want?
I could give her a claim, I don't know what
she wants.

Speaker 5 (01:17:49):
Hmmm.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
Yeah. The more it's funny you mentioned you started to
feel sick because I am sorry to feel sick. There's
a level to it of just like something feels weird
and it's not it's not the weirdness that you feel
when you know someone's lying to you, but it's not
completely divorced from that. Yeah, it does feel like we're
watching something we shouldn't be or hearing something we shouldn't be,
and there's like this discomfort of like, dude, get off

(01:18:13):
the camera, get below deck. Yeah, it's kind of like
a I don't want this to be proof of Mermaids.
I want this to be fake. I would much prefer
just the calming. Oh yeah, someone exposed him, you know.

Speaker 7 (01:18:27):
It's just.

Speaker 1 (01:18:30):
Yeah, Yeah, it's interesting. It does feel it feels more
and more demonic the longer you and I think that.
There's another video I have that talks about it a bit,
but she.

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
Mentioned in this one where he does get banned a lot,
he gets banned a bunch. It isn't uncommon for people
to get banned just for random reasons, like TikTok algorithm
is kind of harsh, and it's it goes off of
like computer stuff that might be a false positive people
can mass report. But it is a little It is
a little weird how often he's been banned, Right, And

(01:19:02):
then you have to wonder if like he's being banned
because he's leaving awful comments in somebody else. Right, I
was gonna say, it could be that he's posting some
other stuff, like I don't know if he used to
be posting like the videos of him smoking before, if
that's new. What else he might be doing too? Why
are there two of these now? I keep playing with
them putting them, Yeah there's two. I don't I don't. Yeah,

(01:19:24):
I could play with them. And I didn't realize there
was a second when I must have grab him somewhere
else unconsciously because I put one of the side so
I wouldn't play with it, And I'm why do I
have one in my handle was still on the side.
What was I thinking about? Like reasons he could be
getting banned?

Speaker 1 (01:19:40):
Oh, I don't know if this is the case on
TikTok anymore. But back in like twenty twenty one range,
there was a lot of like getting banned was like
this badge.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
It was. It was almost it almost got to the
point where it felt like people were getting ban non
purpose for clout And this is my third account, fourth account,
and it almost felt like is that either A is
it true that you're getting banned?

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
B Is it true that you're getting banned for the content?
Because there's always like this. They don't want you to
know this, and that's what made them so much more powerful.
They don't want you to see this.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
I'm like, Okay, why what would possibly motivate the TikTok people, Yeah,
to hide sirens, and I know that. I think one
of the times he got banned it was like mid
live stream, if I recall it correctly. I was trying
to think about reasons why TikTok would kind of not

(01:20:41):
want this up, and it could be I forget the
reasons you couldn't report someone, but it could be for
like promoting false information. That's the only thing I could
think of. But I in terms of like if I
were a TikTok moderator, I'd be like whatever, like you
do your thing like this doesn't seem to violate anything
where it's like this needs to be like this is
a threat.

Speaker 1 (01:20:58):
Unless somehow it's he was mass reported by people who
who felt sick, who felt really uncomfortable. Yeah, I didn't
want to face it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
It could well be something like that. Yeah, I don't know.
That's there's something really awesome weird about that. There's something
and it's almost like if I'm going off of my feelings,
so a feeling I get most is about him, not
actually about the sirens. Yeah, no, I agree, because he
looks a little it's like he looks so mischievous. He

(01:21:29):
looks like a little sprite, and there is a if
you're gonna go off of like if this is real,
there is a reason why these creatures seem to be
fascinated with him, And I don't think that's a good reason,
because I don't think the good creatures. It's also interesting
to note the stuff going on with this tooth gives
you like a sense of the timeline. I don't know
what happened to his tooth, but in this clip he's

(01:21:50):
got half of a front too, and some clips. He's
got all the teeth and then in some later stuff
he's missing the tooth entirely. I don't know what happened,
but it's just like a sigh thing of like dude
slipped on deck. Bro, well it give me that, or yeah,
I don't know, gotta fight with a siren? No, there does?

(01:22:10):
I agree with you. There's something wrong with him. Yeah,
And I don't know exactly how to put a finger
on it, because, like, on surface value, he's not said
anything or I'm like, ooh, you vile creep. It's almost
like he's not having a normal person response. Yeah. He

(01:22:32):
Also I think part of it is, if this is
something demonic, he is very openly in fighting it and
anticipating it and enjoying it, which is kind of like
a don't do that. Yeah, let's finish watching that clip. Okay,
you ain't get much shoveled old bitch.

Speaker 7 (01:22:52):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
Yes, sometimes he's flirting with her. Sometimes he's talking down
to her in like a really demeaning way, like if
you actually believe this is a.

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
A female like intelligent creature, why are you talking to
her like that? Yeah. It could also be a coping
thing if he is a little bit afraid. This is
how he can no that that would make sense to you.

Speaker 6 (01:23:18):
I know you can probably find it in the ocean
my yourself, but.

Speaker 7 (01:23:27):
You welcome.

Speaker 8 (01:23:39):
I don't think not everything.

Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
Okay, so god, Oh I wonder if if a group
of people gathered around the live is also creating this
sort of like a tupa yeah, or like.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
A worship a worship oh yeah. Yeah. Also, his face
near the end of that part of the clip almost
did actually look disturbed, like you kind of. I think
he was just listening, but it almost seemed like holding
out the facade of I'm enjoying this and engage kind
of slipped and he's like, actually, not super cool with it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
Because I mean a lot of the comments are very
much like, I don't know, there's something creeping me out
about like the participation as well.

Speaker 2 (01:24:30):
It's creepy to me. How many people I didn't notice
specifically on this but I did watch a longer life
or a lot of them are like jump overboard, jump overboard,
jump overboard, and if you think this is real, why
are you telling him to jump? Like yeah, that's it's
really weird. Like throw her something, throw her some of
your hair, yeah, yeah, comment like something really creepy about yeah, yeah,

(01:24:50):
all right.

Speaker 12 (01:25:01):
And now there's this, Oh this.

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
Is I think a compilation video, so it spliced together
some of her stuff showing up again so we don't
have to finish that left come. Yeah, So I think
we've thoroughly discussed that one. Unless you have more thoughts, Yeah,
we can do that next clip where it follows him
into the docks. I think some of what we saw
was from that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:23):
There's it's kind of hard to like because there's there's
at least one place where you've seen you've seen a
lot of lights around like it seems yeah, exactly.

Speaker 7 (01:25:33):
Do you know what it is?

Speaker 13 (01:25:33):
Man, just finished another fishing trip. Whole fishing trip, heard
no noises whatsoever until we got into unload peede.

Speaker 14 (01:25:46):
This video crazy.

Speaker 7 (01:25:53):
At the docks. Hey you hear that?

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
I know what the fuck that is. I know what
the fuck that is. I've bitch followed me to fuck
in at the dock.

Speaker 3 (01:26:12):
No way, no way.

Speaker 2 (01:26:15):
There's something in his eyes that I don't like. Yeah,
so this is I think a separate trip from the
one where he was hearing all the other stuff, right,
because said he didn't hear anything in the whole trip. Yeah,
and that other guy I don't know if that's his
ship or not, because if it's some other dude who's like,
what the frick is that? Yeah, it does lend some
credence to at least that sound is not coming from
a speaker. Probably, I don't know at least.

Speaker 1 (01:26:34):
That that Yeah, the person taken by it, But the
idea that that she didn't call to him the whole
time he was out but then started calling to him
like by the dock feels weird too.

Speaker 2 (01:26:53):
I guess. I mean, if you're if you're entering into
the mindset, you could say maybe she didn't she wasn't
out there, she was at the docks the whole time
waiting for him to come back, Like she followed him
in last time and just hung out there until he returned.
But that is odd. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I agree,
there's something weird about his eyes. Yeah, he seems like

(01:27:14):
the kind of person who would sumit a demon on purpose? Right? Oops,
I think I I think I accidentally closed the next clip.
Follow your okay it is the next clip is sawt
an idea? Okay, Okay, he.

Speaker 15 (01:27:32):
Gets banned and then this happened.

Speaker 6 (01:27:35):
You're gonna be out here doing testing testing what what.

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
The fuck are you guys testing?

Speaker 13 (01:27:40):
That's what I want to know.

Speaker 6 (01:27:51):
We all know. So it's ninety has heard certain things
out in the ocean, and then my.

Speaker 13 (01:27:56):
TikTok gets banned, and then.

Speaker 12 (01:27:59):
The government my boat.

Speaker 4 (01:28:00):
There's too many fucking coincidences.

Speaker 2 (01:28:04):
First he gets banned and then this. That is weird. Yeah,
the timing on some of these things is like, what,
you know, what is the lab for? What are they
doing on a commercial fishing boat. It could be completely unrelated,
or it could be some scientists were like, oh, maybe
this is a different kind of will. Maybe this is
a thing, let's check it out. Because scientistsarily, you know,

(01:28:24):
nerdy searchy people. He doesn't give a lot of information,
and sometimes that feels a little bit like intentional of
like you want us to think, you know, the government.
First of all, the government doesn't wake up in brush
its teeth. It's it's a bunch of people, right, people
from the government. But also like he might know all
of the context of why they're there. This might be
something that was planned a year in advance. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

(01:28:45):
But it is interesting that even unless he planned this
whole thing knowing that this was going to happen, the
coincidence of the lab showing up on a boat where
these things are happening is just like automatically.

Speaker 3 (01:29:01):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (01:29:02):
It is interesting how little information he's giving, even if
he doesn't know why they're there, Like yeah, any like
okay on x y Z date, this is when they
said or this is when I found out that this
is going to be happening on my boat, and like
any kind of proof that like they knew he was
going to be on the boat or it was connected.

Speaker 1 (01:29:21):
Yeah, but also like the people who run TikTok moderation
are not the same people who put research things on boats.

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
Yeah, And also you know, he doesn't give any info
of are we expected to participate, Like is there a
role that we play? Are they just kind of hanging out?
Where do we go to help them do their studies?

Speaker 1 (01:29:41):
Because they talk to us like there's just no information
given and that feels slimy.

Speaker 2 (01:29:46):
And it could be that there are other videos where
he does give the info. And this is a recap
video because he is responding to a comment if you
don't mind replaying a little bit video a little bit.
I want to actually google that. Wow, but I just
need to see the side of the.

Speaker 3 (01:30:00):
Happened I didn't earlier, and then this happened band, and
then this happened.

Speaker 2 (01:30:06):
You out here doing testing testing. What what the.

Speaker 4 (01:30:11):
Are you guys testing?

Speaker 7 (01:30:12):
That's what I want to know. We all know.

Speaker 2 (01:30:24):
So it's not.

Speaker 8 (01:30:26):
Ocean.

Speaker 2 (01:30:27):
So the AI overview says that a unial's shared lab
use lab ban is a portable laboratory container that can
be mounted on the deck of a unital's research vessel
to provide additional specialized lab space for oceanographic research. So
it's odd if his ship is not a UNILS research vehicle,
his is like a commercial fishing vessel, he says. So,
unless he's lying about the type of vessel he's on,

(01:30:49):
that's a good question. And it seems like the general
purpose of these labs they can look at like the
different kinds of things. Some of them aren't supposed to loo,
like isotopes, like they're doing specialized lab work they're not
doing like Yeah, it could even be that a're trying
to look at how things behave out and in the ocean,

(01:31:10):
like taking out things. I don't know enough about all
of these things. It seems like they might be kind
of modular where you can use them for whatever purposes
you want. You can install one on a boat.

Speaker 1 (01:31:19):
So I have a vague memory from back when we
looked at this before, yes, basically discovering that this is
pretty common that kind of at random.

Speaker 2 (01:31:30):
Sometimes they will they'll ask to go on.

Speaker 1 (01:31:34):
A vessel and just because the vessel's going to where
they want to get data from, so they're like, okay, can.

Speaker 2 (01:31:41):
You let us come along with you, and well, you know,
we'll pay you or whatever. Like the labs don't own
vessels and they don't have the shipping expertise, right, so
it's their way of like we don't really want to
spend I mean even just the fuel to go out
into the ocean like a deep sea is extremely expensive.

(01:32:01):
And so for them to have these partnerships with the
ships where they're like, okay, we need some data from
this location, yeah then it can we help a ride
with you to go get it? Yeah, that's like that
sounds like it makes a lot of sense, like a
symbiotic sort of thing. And to me, like if he
gave more info of like these people came in and

(01:32:21):
they were like, don't ask any questions and you have
to sign an NDA a bully, right, right, That to
me would indicate something was more fishy. But you know,
if you signed an NDA then he wouldn't be limited
limited info. So if you can skip to that next
video because it's going to bring up that lab thing
again plus some other things.

Speaker 4 (01:32:37):
Okay, girl, where to even begin?

Speaker 5 (01:32:42):
So this is his new account that I mentioned a
few videos earlier, which has grown exponentially and always does
every single time he makes a new account.

Speaker 4 (01:32:50):
Now, this one was removed, but.

Speaker 5 (01:32:52):
He managed to appeal the ban and get it put
back up. But he's still banned from like posting and
there's certain restrictions, so this is also his backup account.
There's like a slight difference in the name. You can
also find him on Twitter his Instagram of course, and
he's also just made a YouTube as well.

Speaker 14 (01:33:09):
So he's really now trying to work around all of
these bands. Now that I've shown you all of the plugs,
and we know that his previous account got banned for
a little while, which he is super lucky to have
gotten that back, so trading very carefully posting on this account.
He's now also been banned until the eighteenth of this month.

Speaker 5 (01:33:25):
Okay, so if you're up to date, with sauce, and
you follow him on all of these platforms, you'll know
that he's just.

Speaker 4 (01:33:30):
Come back from being out in the ocean again. Of
course this trip wasn't a normal one either.

Speaker 5 (01:33:36):
He managed to post this to his account just before
his recent band.

Speaker 16 (01:33:39):
Just I think the least compelling thing. But there was
banging against your boat right like the.

Speaker 2 (01:33:56):
Waves can bang? Okay? And also interesting that it's reflexes
to film, although I guess if you're hearing something weird,
you're gonna film it. But like I always question, like,
how am I seeing with some camera? Who set up
the camera? Right? Does this makes sense in the situation? Yeah,

(01:34:29):
it suddenly feels like he's acting more scared than he's
acted on like every other thing. It does definitely a setup.
It does feel like acting. Yeah, And it's one of
those things I've like, did it start legitimately and he
started having to ham it up because that was his
to fame?

Speaker 7 (01:34:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:34:41):
I agree.

Speaker 5 (01:34:43):
Well, clearly you can say by his reaction that that's
not a normal thing that happens, But that wasn't the
only thing.

Speaker 4 (01:34:50):
Check this out, yea, what is that?

Speaker 6 (01:35:00):
What the fuck is that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:03):
I have? Oh?

Speaker 7 (01:35:09):
I got another one?

Speaker 2 (01:35:10):
Another one over here. Oh yeah, don't double. Let's finish
the video and then we can discuss. I'll just say
for people who can't see the video, it's kind of
like in the same spot on both sides of the boat,
like equidistant, and it's pretty uniform parallel.

Speaker 6 (01:35:24):
What are these.

Speaker 7 (01:35:32):
What the heck on.

Speaker 14 (01:35:40):
East side of the boat?

Speaker 9 (01:35:44):
What are those trails called?

Speaker 6 (01:35:45):
Let's time swimming fast and I need that water some
swimming real fast and I need that water, Like what.

Speaker 4 (01:35:52):
Could this possibly do?

Speaker 5 (01:35:57):
We really need answers at this point, and I think
I know you might be able to give them to us.
As the camera pans to the right, just here, you
can see that this scientific laboratory that you would have
seen from the previous videos is still on the best song.

Speaker 4 (01:36:11):
What is going on? I'm a little afraid at this
point to ask, but make sure you keep.

Speaker 5 (01:36:15):
Up to date with all of this and follow Sauce
on all of the platforms everywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:36:19):
This is huge. Okay, go ahead and pull up that
next link that I have. Oh not not the next sorry, Yeah,
it is the googling because if you'll auto playing, it
makes sense if you'll look at this thing that I
have and biggened. These are called stabilizing arms or for

(01:36:44):
commercial fishing boats, and they'll have them in different locations
and they don't always look the same, but basically the
idea is they have these arms that go out and
then go down into the water. That's a good view
of it too, to kind of keep it from I guess,
going too far in one direction together. I don't know
exactly how they work, but notice how they're kind of
in that same spot where he's seeing this something dragging

(01:37:06):
through the water, grating that wig on the both sets
of the boat. Now he claims that his boat has
two sets of stabilizing arms. One set is I think,
he said, like in the back, so it wouldn't be
located whorth these are, and that there's another set that
is kind of worth these are, but it's never put
down unless they're in dry dock. But he could also

(01:37:27):
be lying because to me, in a couple of the videos,
I did see what looked like a stabilizing line going
down into the water, just pinting back really quickly. So
my impression of this is just he is taking advantage
of the people's general lack of knowledge of how commercial
fishing vessels work in the water so that he can
kind of make it look like he's being flanked by
these two sirens.

Speaker 1 (01:37:47):
I even saw in some of the captions on the
videos that like he's like, what's going on, and they're
like this from an experienced commercial fishman, like because of
who he is, automatically that the fact that he's asking
means like he proves it something.

Speaker 2 (01:38:04):
Yeah, and not that he's playing dumb because he knows
that he can m to me, I would buy most
of the things that he's you know, claiming and stuff.
If this was like a really hard bitten fishing dude
who was like, no, that's word man, I don't know.
I just went about to stay. Yeah, like I would,
I would buy it more than this guy who's like
it's a big thing and I'm gonna whip everyone up

(01:38:25):
into a frenzy. Like it almost looks like between Phoebe
and Sauce. It's like folli adu, which is like a
shared what's the word not hallucination, like a shared in sanity,
a shared delusion that you build up between each other
so you're each playing off each other until you reach
this crescendo, completely divorced from reality. That's the vibe that
I get of, like, and it's turning into sort of

(01:38:46):
almost a mass hysteria because everyone's getting involved and no
one's like, wait a second, there are some details that
don't work, and everyone's like this is big and this
is scary, and the fear is what's driving in the
fear of like some big other entity like the government
or whatever is going to try to suppresss because we
know too much. What does the government have to do
with sirens? Like what would the government lose if we

(01:39:07):
knew that sirens were real if we found evidence, and
what would they gain by suppressing it? Right? If someone
could give me a valid answer to those then I
would entertain that. But otherwise it just is like the
stamp up approval on your conspiracy theories that the government
doesn't want you to talk and the government isn't this omniscient,
all knowing thing. If the government was able to find
enough evidence for sirens to know that they're real, we
probably would just have that like ourselves too.

Speaker 1 (01:39:31):
Yeah, I think it would be a lot more. I
don't know, Like, I think you could build a somewhat
compelling argument for like why the un would have like
secretly decided among all the nations, we are not going
to ever, none of us are going to acknowledge. We're
all going to hide that these mythological creatures. Yeah, maybe,

(01:39:55):
but don't. I don't really see any evidence of that
conspiracy on a government level. It's always it's always more
it came out of this TikTok banning thing. And then
I wonder if like that's part of what TikTok was
doing to like pull people to the platforms.

Speaker 2 (01:40:09):
Like ooh, all of these people getting banned, and you.

Speaker 1 (01:40:12):
Like, it drove interest, It drove people seeking out new accounts,
It drove people like becoming really loyal to certain creators.
It's almost like they banned somebody just because they got big.

Speaker 2 (01:40:26):
Now, an alternate conspiracy theory that I, if I believed
any conspiracy theory is the one I would put more
stock into is that Sauce Nidy actually works for the
government and he is what's the word like, an intentional
not sioup. He's intentionally doing a red herring. That's what
he's paid to do. He's paid to ham it up.
He's paid to really distract people. We get them to

(01:40:48):
focus on this and it's not necessarily to make them
think the wrong kind of suren is real, but like
to distract their attention from something else that is happening,
like the whole Titan disaster thing happened at a really
convenient time, distract the news cycle from some other things
that were going on. I could see something like that
being a little bit more realistic. I'm not saying I
think that's necessarily the case, but because he has that

(01:41:10):
sort of devious look about him, he is and sometimes
this is just just.

Speaker 1 (01:41:15):
As like the luck of the draw that the like
sometimes fishermen can be attractive, but like he is very
like uniquely attractive and unique looking as far as like
becoming a personality of that type. And there's certainly across
across industries there's people like that who make content.

Speaker 2 (01:41:39):
So yeah, he just to me, he reads as a
plant versus I don't know. I don't look at him
and think that, yeah, that guy's actually a fisherman. Yeah right,
exactly exactly. He's like too much of a pretty boy,
he's too Yeah, I don't know, But let me have
one more clip and then I have a few other
details to talk about that I just don't have in
video form. This. It's the Mermaid tailbone one.

Speaker 11 (01:42:05):
Yes, the paranormal tic here y'all. I am so excited
about this update. It's an update regarding the Mermaid videos.
So if you've seen my previous videos, the deepsea fisherman,
the commercial fisherman, sauce. He has this outworldly connection with
these unidentified creatures and he manages to catch amazing footage.

Speaker 4 (01:42:28):
Well.

Speaker 15 (01:42:28):
In the interview that I conducted with him, he had
mentioned a tailbone that he had pulled up from the water.
He's taking that tailbone in now to be analyzed. Listen
to the comment that the specialists made. Tell me what
you think.

Speaker 11 (01:42:44):
Like postcomment repost.

Speaker 2 (01:42:46):
Let me know.

Speaker 6 (01:42:47):
I got a call back from the Whaling Museum and
they had an expert there who was willing to talk
to me about the bone that I have found. But
look at that man, Look at those big monstrous animals
with those bones. That's crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:43:11):
I think I don't know what it is.

Speaker 6 (01:43:23):
He was there taking a whole bunch of photos, measuring
the thing, emailing certain other people that he knows who
might have other insight on it. Yeah, everybody's seen the
never seen nothing like it. Usually the bones that come
up with like vertebrates and stuff. But nobody's seen anything
like this.

Speaker 2 (01:43:37):
I can't be there anything that whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:43:44):
I mean, it's obviously too big to be a mermaid.
So it almost feels like he's trying to like switch
his griff to something else.

Speaker 8 (01:43:50):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:43:50):
No, he's claiming it's like the tailbone, that the tail
is just one solid bone in that shape, oh, instead
of being cartilage. Yeah. And he's claiming this came up
in like his fishing truck thing. Yeah, that's my understanding,
because he doesn't he's not trying to say this is
something not a mermaid. He's trying to say it'd.

Speaker 4 (01:44:08):
Take a photo, Bob, ask me to take a phone.

Speaker 6 (01:44:10):
Absolutely, you've never seen anything like this.

Speaker 4 (01:44:14):
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 6 (01:44:15):
It's crazy.

Speaker 7 (01:44:18):
I don't know what it is. I don't know what
it is.

Speaker 11 (01:44:23):
M h.

Speaker 2 (01:44:27):
I don't think that this guy doing the analysis is
the specialist he's being paged. Yeah, I think it's just
a guy. I was like, it could just be that
he had some random person staged this in a whaling thing.
My question is, I mean, I know it's a bone,
it's from the ocean, but why isn't the guy wearing gloves.

Speaker 1 (01:44:42):
Right, Well, well they're right out in like the main
center of the office. I would I would even buy
that this didn't even bring this bone with him, that
it was already here, and then he's just asking this
guy to like say what he thinks of it.

Speaker 2 (01:44:58):
Maybe I I think that there might be enough if
that he did bring the bone, but it is it
is a you know, a valid question of what is
that bone? And it might be that it is like
part of a creature that we do know about, and
this person is lying to.

Speaker 1 (01:45:12):
Okay, So like let's say he brought it in and
he brought it in this blanket, yeah, and plopped it
down on this table.

Speaker 2 (01:45:18):
Who is he talking to? Because like, yeah, a.

Speaker 1 (01:45:21):
Place like this would have like a clean back room
where they would bring bones in and like staging.

Speaker 2 (01:45:29):
I would think unless it's it is sort of like
a because he's not handing this bone over to them,
He's just getting it in to be appraised. If they
have a less formal process just be like, I don't
know if we're interested in your bone at all, So
it might work here, but like just throwing it on
the table, it's just so weird. It is odd. I agree,
but I don't know, you know, if this is a

(01:45:49):
legitimate bone, what kind of bone it is? So I
can't be like, no, this is b us, this is
the butt bone of the Eastern sphinxle whale.

Speaker 1 (01:46:01):
I would also like the guys like I don't know,
and he seems to be uninterested, And I get I
guess that that is a fairly common human reaction of
like I don't know what it is, so I'm not interested.

Speaker 2 (01:46:11):
I'm not, I'm not. I didn't take it as interested,
but be like, oh, I don't know, like like intrigued,
but not like oh my gosh, all over himself, just
kind of like a dry somebody.

Speaker 7 (01:46:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:46:20):
Yeah, I mean a lot of especially the older academics,
aren't really like ooh, I want to discover a new creature.

Speaker 2 (01:46:25):
But yeah, it does seem weird that it's like you're
you're not like I don't know, let's let's get this,
let's get this into the back and like look at
it closer, or like like, I mean, I understand what
you're saying. But I know people who like I know
dudes who could be encountering the thing that is the
most interesting thing in their lives and they could still
have a dry response like sure, so I mean taken together.

(01:46:46):
I you know, you can include that anything, but I
wouldn't want a lot of stuck in that. Okay, that's
fre that's FAE. So that's all I have for video stuff.
I did watch a couple interviews with him. One was
with Phoebe, one was with this lady who. One with
that lady was really difficult to watch because she just
kept interrupting him. She was really really friendly, but like
he would be saying something interesting and she'd get too
excited and kind of off and was like I want
to hear what he's saying. But she wasn't mean or anything.

(01:47:10):
But so basically, if I'm understanding the timeline of events,
like he's got these trips, he come in, he came
in from one of the most recent trips as of
the making up these videos, where the lab was already
on the thing and he's had all these bands and
then he goes home and he's driving and someone drives
him off the road like from the other direction and

(01:47:32):
he crashes into a tree and it did actually knock
him out and stuff. He had to go to the hospital,
and then in the hospital they were like, oh, yeah,
we got your necklaces for you, Like we had to
cut your clothes off and stuff. Here's your necklaces. And
he's like, I don't have necklaces and it's like a
cross necklace. In this other one, they're like, yeah, no,
it was in your he's either his hand or his pocket.
Oh it was on him or something. They're like, I
know these were yours. These were on you. So he

(01:47:54):
wears them now, And that part was like, that is weird.
It's an odd detail to try to cut with yourself. Yeah, Like, again,
no one operates the same my mind does, so I
could see someone who thinks differently is like and I'm
gonna add this detail about this weird thing that shows up.
But the way he's processing it is like he's not
even trying to say the people who ran him off

(01:48:14):
the road did it, but that like maybe someone else
came along him and put this on him to kind
of like help him survive better or something. I forget.
It's almost like he's just kind of throwing out random
things to try to explain it. But he feels like
they're kind of a good luck charm and he's afraid
to take them off now because he's wondering if they
protected him, and it's like it's an odd detail in

(01:48:34):
the whole mix of all the things. That's when I
actually get up hung up on the most because they
could just be his necklaces that he's making this big
thing about. It could be he got hit harder in
the head than he thought he had, just like selective
necklace amnation, and he actually did have them. But it's weird.

Speaker 1 (01:48:48):
Well, if he got if he get run off the
road and m m and hit a tree, it is
possible that the person who ran him off was like
some girl yeah, and stopped, tried to ascertain that he
wasn't actually like gonna die, Yeah, left him with the necklaces,

(01:49:09):
but like randslod and it didn't have to be.

Speaker 2 (01:49:12):
A girl because they weren't specifically girl coded necklaces. They're
like a necklace you might see a dude wearing. It
would still make more sense to me in that little
like narrative that it was like a girl who was
afraid to Yeah, no, I know what you mean. My
other what I was picturing it was just like going
along with their narrative. I said, say, it is some

(01:49:33):
assassin who was hired by the government to kill him,
runs them off the road, or maybe not even to
kill him, but just like to send a message like Okay,
back off, dude, stop filming this stuff. And then he
leaves the necklaces as his calling card. And you're like,
what if we find more cases of people who've been
round off the road with these type of necklaces. Not
everyone survives and not everyone is there to point out
these weren't my necklaces. I didn't own these. Oh, like

(01:49:54):
a subtle Joe was here doing his murderous duties. Inside
joke was himself. It would be interesting too if it
was if it.

Speaker 1 (01:50:04):
Was a government thing and like they're like recording devices
but or tracker or something else.

Speaker 2 (01:50:08):
Yeah, but I feel like they wouldn't need to record
him because he records himself all the time. Yeah, it
is just that's really weird. But the timing was odd.
He did actually get like a a scar on his
head from it, and like that that because people getting
car accidents all the time, that he got in a
car accident when he's already a stoner, like, right, is

(01:50:32):
not weird, but the necklacey is. Yeah, And the way
he describes the accident. If I recall correctly, He's driving
one way and this other car comes up, turns their
high beams on and is like driving like sort of
towards him, so it blinded him and he couldn't really
see it felt like intentional, that's how he took it. Now,
it could be he was stone. I think he was

(01:50:52):
coming back from doc Like. It sounds like it was
pretty quick after coming to short. It could be like
the same day or the next day, huh. But yeah,
it kind of sounds like someone intentionally tried to blind
him and guide him off the road. At the same time,
he could be making that detail up, and he could
have been drunk. I don't know, but it is that detail.
If anything else, I would have been like, okay, I
can just like talk this up to nothing. That detail

(01:51:15):
kind of is just a little weird to me. I
don't know. It's not enough to be like and he's
right and it's the government, but like something something about
the whole thing doesn't fit into either the explanation that
he's giving or the explanation of he's just making everything up.
It's like the secret third thing that is kind of disconcerting, right,
But not because Oh no, I'm paranoid about the government
because I'm like, who is this guy? What is he

(01:51:37):
mixed up in? Right of thing? Well, then then it
makes you wonder if like there's some completely other disconnected
reason why demons are following him around. Yeah yeah, and
in influencing the people around him, and yeah, yeah, I
don't know. And I I wanted to look into him

(01:51:57):
or to see if he's making those types of videos
for follow up, and I just found I really didn't
want to be on this TikTok page. I was like,
I'm good knowing this part of the story. I don't
care if there's more to it than this because I'm
not vested in I don't have a vested interest improving
when or another. I just wanted to talk about this
weird phenomenon that there's definitely like a I don't want
to touch this. I don't want to be in this.
Like I've looked into it. I'm good. I just want

(01:52:19):
to be toime. So but if you guys want to
look into it more at your own discretion, you know,
I'm curious to know what she'll find. But yeah, so
that's all the information I had. Basically, I don't think
mermaids are real. If there is something that is real,
it is what I mentioned earlier, something that kind of
looks vaguely human at the right angles is predatory or

(01:52:43):
you know, we know in the Bible the pigs got
possessed by demons, so animals can be possessed. You know,
what does it look like physiologically in an animal if
like demons have just decided to live in animals for generations,
does that impact how their genetics break down or what
becomes assessing question? And that's why you it's associated don't die. Okay,

(01:53:11):
So something had I said I was going to come
back to this. Let's see.

Speaker 1 (01:53:18):
Oh yeah, so I had kind of said offhanded that
it kind of looks like they're shoved into something, as
opposed to, oh, this looks like a drawing of their
body and how because how we would artistically depict would

(01:53:41):
be like kind of the scales going up and like
fading into the skin. But it's almost like his belly
is hanging out over like overly tight pants.

Speaker 2 (01:53:50):
Yeah, just very tight leather fish pants. Yeah, let me
show the cylinder. It's a little bit less, so he
like a little waist wrap that kind of hides whether
there's emerging or not. Right, And with both the fishtail
dudes and the whole fish costume dude, like it kind

(01:54:13):
of looks like the whole fish costume dude just wearing
a fish draped over him. He's like, like, did you
see that picture of the Miss Norway? I think it
was Miss Norway dressed up as a whole fish. Oh
I did not see that. And like with high heels
or something like that. That's the vibe that that's giving,
just somebody in a fish costume, and it just makes

(01:54:33):
me wonder, like did they I think I think I
probably closed the tap, but even the one with a
kind of prebuscus, yeah, yeah, Like is this an old
technology that has been lost that we didn't like? But
just just a uh, basically a scuba technology where you
you put on your you put on your little tail,

(01:54:57):
your little your old fish pants tail, and you put
on your prebuscus, you put on you put on like
whatever head piece you need to put on, and and
you go diving. So there is that brings me to
a tangent that I might as well share with you.
So I'm gonna drop some stuff into the notes. This

(01:55:17):
is something that you'd be familiar with from years and
years ago, because I believe Kent hovend Ah incorporated this
in this video. So that's the first link, and I'm
gonna see if I can find the other. I'm trying
to remember what it was. I had too many thoughts
going in my head at said time. Oh yeah, is
it showing up on your yes? So yeah, on this

(01:55:37):
you can see it looks kind of like a blimp
or a submarine. It looks like an AI generated image
where like it resembles and you can't quite a figure
on whatever resembles. They're claiming that this looks like this
because it's like a palimpsest, which is like something that
gets rewritten over time. So it's carving is on top
of other carvings that create it. So you see on

(01:55:58):
the left it looks like a helicopter. It's raised the
question of like, well, did they have these other technologies
and this kind of like shows that they do it.
It almost like they look so much like a helicopter
and a UFO to be like this has to be fake.

(01:56:23):
But I've heard about this enough times. Yeah, fair, it's
a tested enough where I don't think at this point
you can try to say it's fake. I'm trying to
find I don't know if I've used the right search terms.
There's some Mayan I believe it's mine. It might be
az tech hieroglyphs or whatever their carvings are called. Where

(01:56:47):
it looks like some underwater apparatus that he's in. You
can interpret it different ways. Just the idea that pre flood,
that there may have been some high level technologies even
very similar to what we like if humans followed the
path once. Maybe they followed it once before and it

(01:57:08):
just they do it in different ways, different technology. So
it doesn't look quite the same, but it looks similar similar, Yeah,
and in that it's written in stone, so it survived
the it survived the flood because it was like deep
underground in these caves or whatever. I don't know, because
a lot of water. You be like, how could a

(01:57:29):
carving have survived that? Well, I guess it depends on
what it's carved into, because there's also some Egyptian vases
that are made out of I'm going to get the
kind of stone wrong. It's it's the one that's really
not easy to car like, you can't carve it by hand.
You have to carve it with a laser and it's
really finely precise, so it's like that would break down

(01:57:49):
very fast. And also how did they how did they?

Speaker 1 (01:57:52):
It basically been proven that they it had to have
been carved by some sort of computer, like had to
be a laser cut or yeah, yeah, but like their
computer specific Yeah, not necessarily the type of computer that
we see, but like both the cutting tool and just
the like absolute uniformity around, so the ability to cut
it and the ability to have it be incredibly precise.

Speaker 2 (01:58:15):
And there's also some evidence around like Mayan technology where
some carvings look like they actually could forsemple a motherboard.
So there's a question of like do they have some
different form of producing computer type stuff that we just
can't conceive of because we've gone It's like, once you're
familiar with how technology works, it's hard to fathom how
that same effect to be reached with a different kind
of technology. But there was like that Mayan crystal battery

(01:58:38):
that was found and some other things. I find all
that stuff really fascinating. Yeah, well, I love it. I'm
having trouble finding the other Mayan hieroglyphic, but it Basically,
it looks like it's hard to interpret it, but it
looks like it could be this dude wearing some sort
of underwater diving helmet and some sort of like machine
type thing. But anyway, fun times. But yeah, the whole

(01:59:01):
Mermaid legend could be recalling a time when people did
have the technology to kind of do a lot of
stuff underwater and not live underwater, but like be underwater
a bunch.

Speaker 1 (01:59:11):
So yeah, yeah, well, if you can, if you believe
the Bible is both true and like literal. In Genesis,
you have people who are living eight hundred nine hundred
years in not having to spend half their a third

(01:59:32):
of their life in education.

Speaker 2 (01:59:34):
They can just build and build and build. Yeah, you're
not starting form the ground up each generation.

Speaker 1 (01:59:38):
So yeah, and you've got two thousand years before the flood.

Speaker 2 (01:59:45):
The world is newer everything, Like humans are at their
peak of intellectual capability.

Speaker 1 (01:59:52):
I think it's likely that they reached a high level
of technology prior to the floodagine And actually.

Speaker 2 (01:59:57):
Sorry, no, go ahead. Our next My next episode that
I'm planning to do is going to be on cancer.
But then the one after that, I'm not sure yet
if it's going to be a one part or two parter.
It's going to talk about are their pyramids on Mars?
And is their biblical evidence for there having been something
on Mars and tying into some Atlantis theories, some pre

(02:00:19):
ted Deluvian stuff. So yeah, that's I like it. That's
the most fun I've had in researching. I'm really excited
to do it. Okay, very excited. Is this is that?
It is that? Do you have anything else? That's everything
I have for today. That's all, folks, that's all. Well,
thank you for being here. Here's the status of my saw.
Come on to the heel.

Speaker 1 (02:00:38):
Yeah, the heel goes pretty fast, and so I don't
have to go all the way around.

Speaker 2 (02:00:42):
It's just oh right, it's like a little bulge. Yeah,
all right, thanks for being with us, and good night

Speaker 6 (02:01:01):
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