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Speaker 1 (00:57):
Hello, and welcome to Overdose, episode sixteen. Random wild news
stories occasionally less less occasionally than I would assume, but
occasionally I have a bunch of stuff I want to
talk about and I have not figured out how to
unite it into an overarching theme. And so here here

(01:19):
we are united in the fact that it is not United, right,
and not about United the air flight company, but definitely
some weird, weird news items out of this week that
I am excited to talk about. So also I am
still a little bit eating my dinner because when I

(01:40):
should have been eating my dinner, my toddler was screaming, crying,
literally throwing up because he didn't want to go to bed,
So I had to change the bed sheets and everything.
And John is hanging out with him for the show.
So we'll probably try to keep a short, not the point,
we will one hundred percent to try to keep a short,

(02:00):
try to keep in the hour tonight. So did I
get my screenshare ready?

Speaker 2 (02:04):
No?

Speaker 1 (02:05):
I did not, proud of you. Okay, So the first one.
The first one is this hot mic situation with Putin
and Xijinping. This was caught by CCTV in Beijing. Sorry

(02:25):
picked up by Bloomberg from CCTV in Beijing. So I'll
play the video, but i'll talk over it. I won't
I won't do the audio from it because it's all
in translation anyway. So yeah, you don't want to reveal
that you know both Russian and Chinese correct, correct, And
I don't want to know if you guys know, because

(02:46):
I don't want to know if you guys are Russian
Chinese spies. But this is going to remind you of
a book we read, Crowing. I thought of an immediate
All right, here we go. So they are walking, G says,
these days seventy years old. The translator says in Russian,

(03:13):
earlier people rarely live to seventy, but these days, at
seventy years years you're still a child. So something that's
happening in this video is that sometimes the when G
or Putin originally talks, they're not catching that. But when
the translator speaks to go between the two of them,
then we're seeing what they're saying. So there's some confusion there.

(03:35):
But yes, so G, through the translator, says, earlier people
rarely live to seventy, but these days, at seventy years old,
you're still a child. Putin is speaking, but it's inaudible.
He's responding, talking, talking, talking translator in Mandarin. With the
development of biotechnology, human organs can be continuously transplated, and

(03:58):
people can live younger and younger and even achieve immortality.
Predictions are this century there's a chance of also living
to one and fifty. That was it. I have one question. Yes,
so eventually your your brain starts breaking down, right, so

(04:21):
you could be really youthful throughout your body. But they
you know, a brain transplant doesn't transplant doesn't really achieve
what you're trying to go for. So there's that neurally uploads,
like that's that's where people are trying to get with
brain brain upload stuff. Also, what's my other point? So

(04:45):
I think that the the obvious question is like, sure,
theoretically you can continuously replace your organs, but where are
you getting these organs? Oh from Mike clone farm. But
I remember my other point. We need to do a
show by wait, I mean bye we I mean me
on personality changes after organ transplants. Yes, but yes, you'll

(05:07):
do that after my ghost show. But so like you're
gonna be like a ship of theseus at the end. Yes,
but also anyway, continue, So the book we ride according
is called The House is Scorping. There's actually a sequel
to it, it's The Lord of Opium. Yeah, something like that,
which is also and I haven't read the sequel. Good
it was. It was a good wrapping up to the series.

(05:29):
But basically the main character in that series is a
clone who has been bred to spoilers. Is it spoilers? Yeah?
That the entire thing, the comparison, it's been out for years. Yeah,
the entire comparison is spoilers. Oh yeah, you can talk

(05:49):
about it. He knows he's a clone, now, No, I
don't think he does. Well, maybe he does. No, he
he knows because he introduces himself as like having been
born out of a cow. He knows he's a clone
of the He doesn't know. Wow, now I'm now I'm

(06:12):
freaking myself out about this. But yeah, no, he does
not know from the start. Oh, he discovers it at
six or seven. I think that's part of the big
reveal in the book. But y'all, he said thirteen in
the book though maybe anyway, huh, anyway, really prove us
wrong or something. He and a bunch of other people
have been bred as organ organ farms for for the

(06:39):
drug lord that runs there. The pre the premise is
that instead of a border between Mexico and the United States,
they just let the drug lords take over a big
swath of land and like have a separate country where
they just ran it. And and this is one of
like the lawless things they are doing, like Abby all

(07:03):
up and here ruining books. Sorry, it is a middle
grade like or a very young young adult books. He's thirty.
I think he's thirty. It's still worth reading even with
the spoiler. Yeah, but yes, you do wonder if it's
clones or if it's just people who happen to be matches.

(07:24):
Who they are you know, killing family or family? Yeah,
that they're sacrificing forgans. Yeah, Like I only keep you
around because I think we're the same blood type. Mmmmm hmmm.
Oh that was that was a thought. But then if

(07:47):
if like people like this put G are doing this
sort of stuff, which you think that they they probably
must be if someone's doing it there, Yeah, if someone's
doing it, they're doing it. But like also the Hollywood League,
maybe are they getting access to some of these things?
If you pay enough money, can you get any organ

(08:09):
you want on the black market. Well, I just got
an email to my bank email that said that I
was a winner of a random lottery and I my
prize was five hundred thousand dollars, so maybe I can
afford organs hmm. But the email didvise me not to
tell any Thirth parties about it. I yeah, those are
always Yeahirth parties. Yep, Thirth parties. Anyway. Anyway, next news item.

(08:35):
This is so the whole Lauren Chen Tenant media saga
is something that we covered when it when it first
happened about a year ago, and on the show read
through it was a it was an unhinged so it
would still be on locals if you want to look
it up. But read through the court documents and at

(08:59):
the time I felt that it was pretty obvious that
Lauren and her husband took Russian money from Russian media
and Russian actors. It was less clear if they purpose,
like if they let that money dictate what they were

(09:23):
pushing on Tenant media, or if there was anything like
more untoward going on than receiving money from people they
shouldn't have been receiving money money, And if the other
actors like there was there was a level of culpability
question there, but it was pretty clear that they had
done something wrong. And it was also pretty clear or

(09:45):
at least very very unwise and Unamerican. It was also
fairly clear to me that Lauren had taken a weird
turn in her opinions public opinions. Right around the time
that this had happened. She had started to defend Islam more.
She had started to at least mock people like myself

(10:09):
who were calling out anti Semitism. If not, I don't
think I actually saw her being genuinely a Semitic. It
was just throwing her weight against people who were trying
to say, hey, this is starting to be a problem guys. Yeah,
she was anti pro Semite. Yeah. So I wanted to
read this statement from her because I think it's an

(10:30):
interesting kind of study in manipulation and like, how do
you know if someone's lying to you or how do
you know if the truth is being represented? Let's read
it through and kind of yeah, that's all love. How
she emoges that one kid but not the other. Yeah,
like the older girl. But she so she leads with

(10:51):
this picture of her and her children, look at me,
as human. Yes, yeah, and I think in the context
here this is I would not use my children like this.
This is I think this is very manipulative. Statement dated today?
This today, Yeah, seven twelve, This is two months ago,

(11:13):
two months ago. She only posted it today. It's important
to me that you understand what month is. Maybe she
did a TYPEO I meant to do nine for that
would make more sense. Yeah, it would make more sense.
But maybe she wrote it last week. Yeah, weird? Okay,
good good, noticing that it's strange. This past year has
brought trials I never imagined possible. There is so much
I have to say, but for now I will do

(11:34):
my best to answer a question. I know many of
you have been wondering what happened on September fourth, twenty
twenty four two, So this is interesting. The statement state
is of four twenty five. So now we're just all confused.
I feel like it's because you can't keep her story
straight in anything, including what data is. Two months before
the general election, my husband's two year old and I

(11:54):
were awoken early in the morning by thirty armed FBI
agents about to break down our door. At the time,
was entering my fourth month of pregnancy. Okay, what the
question here is were they attractive the FBI, you wouldn't
be able to tell because they're like wearing masks, right,
That's what The FBI spent the next four hours searching
our house and interrogating us about our company, Tenant, which

(12:16):
licensed mostly right leaning conservative content. They took all our
electronics and seized our assets. This included our live savings
and revenue that had nothing to do with Tenant, such
as payments from contracts with The Blaze and TPUSA. That
same day, the then Attorney General Merritt Garland published a
press release which essentially labeled Tenant a Russia propaganda operation

(12:36):
intent on subverting American elections. Side network quick. The fact
that she's including like that line about this extra stuff
there's nothing to do with it, and she's I think
she's trying to indicate their began reasonable, but it's like
they're trying to do a deep investigation, right freezing everything.
And then I mean, this is how it's it's par
for the course of standard. Yeah, yeah, which, like we

(12:59):
we can fully admit that Biden's d o J is insane,
was insane, particularly with regard to conservatives. In conservative media,
and that there's a great chance that they truly overset,
over stepped and and didn't Yeah, that that that they

(13:20):
were rougher with them and and and more veno violating
of potentially violating of rights or like, went farther than
they needed to. But they also could be anticipating there
could be any number of shell companies she's using that
are under names that are not associated with this. Yeah. Yeah,
so like multiple things can be treated at the same time,

(13:43):
and I don't think we have there's a tendency to
want to go so my brain's not working for it. Well,
what's new, there's a tendency to want to go, Okay,
this person is either one hundred percent bad and therefore
they couldn't have been wronged, or they were wrong and
therefore this person was completely in the right. And I
don't think either of those are the case. I will probably,

(14:07):
just for the sake of like kindness, say probably her
and her family were wrong per to some extent, and
probably and for the sake of unkindness, I will say
the opposite. On the labeled tenant of Russia, Russian propaganda

(14:27):
operation intent on subverting American elections. Now, I don't remember
exactly what the statement was at the time, but my
impression after reading the court documents and everything was not
that they were focused on the election aspect of things,
but that they were focused on it being Russian propaganda
and she is going to lean into the election thing

(14:48):
because she's leaning into the I was pro Trump and
got punished for it, targeted for it, where I think
that the Trump of it all was not the core
or even like a strong piece of what she was
accused of trying to subvert elections. I think the accusation

(15:13):
was a lot more trying to stir up like Aji
prop basically trying to stir up divisions in the country,
and it stands to reason that would happen more around elections,
like Russia's not going to spend money right right, Yeah,
chaos I think was the point, not any particular candidate.

(15:41):
The Department of Justice also unsealed an indictment on two
Russian individuals that worked in conjunction with our company but
were not in US custody or even in the country
this link. The indictment of these individuals was largely focused
on Tenant through most of though most of the information
provided was false inaccurate or out of context. There were
also claims made concerning issues outside of our knowledge, and
we regards as allegations with extreme skepticism. At some point,

(16:06):
maybe she'll be a lot more specific than this, and
will I can retract my criticism of this paragraph. But
I think that it is very convenient when someone is
able to say some of what was said was false,
and some of it was inaccurate, and some of it
was out of context, but not say which items. And
it leaves whoever likes her and wants a reason to

(16:27):
think well of her and to erase this whole thing
from their brain to be like, oh, okay, it was false.
It's like if you said Liz killed a man while
wearing a red shirt, and it's like, well, some of
that was false. I was wearing a blue shirt exactly.
She's leaving her readers to She's giving her readers just
enough permission to assume the best of her when it
might not be actually correct to do that. Garland painted

(16:52):
Tenant as a covert Russian propaganda mouthpiece, and our conservative
leaning talent was as unwitting propagandists. The implication was that
the Russian government was astro turfing support for President Donald
Trump in the upcoming election. See, this is the thing
she's I think lying outright lying about in my opinion,
because I don't I don't think that that was the implication.

(17:13):
I think the implication was that they were taking money
from Russia to stir up division in the country. I
think Russia would have actually benefited more of Kamala as president,
right right, if anything division on the right. Yeah yeah,

(17:33):
And that his conservative and right wing supporters online and
in independent media were merely behind him because they were
paid to be This notion was categorically untrue. So this
is where she's she's making a statement that I think
is false about it being about to support for Donald
Trump to in an effort to get people to be like, oh,
well I supported Donald Trump and you caught punished for

(17:53):
the like to relate to her in that way, like look,
you were paid with a bad brush too, Like no,
they but they weren't taking money from Russia to have
a media company. And also the whole oh you feel

(18:13):
bad for Trump. They think he only has friends because
they pay for them. But I'm his true friend, right right. Yeah,
to be clear, because because I saw some of the
content that was published for Tenant Media, and I didn't
think it was particularly pro Trump, and anyway, I don't
think it was anti Trump, but it was like it
was just political content. It wasn't. It was like videos

(18:39):
pushing to get Trump blacked. And sometimes propaganda isn't overtly
doing anything except making you question, like your entire sense
of reality and distrust everyone. I don't know. I do
think that Putin endorsed Biden satyr. I think you're correct.
I think a lot of people were like, is he

(18:59):
trolling razies? Serious? Yes? So, to be clear, she says,
my own commentary has never been shaped by any outside parties,
despite working with several different companies during my time on
social media. Furthermore, as a company, Tenant offered total editorial
freedom to our creators. We never forced or advised our
creators to push certain agendas, nor were we ever told
to do so by any third party. In fact, we

(19:20):
often did not see the content our creators published directly
to our platform until it went live. That's odd for
our company, I think. So yeah. We encourage these creators
to do what they do best, speak their minds boldly,
to suggest that their earnest opinions are tantamount. Russian propaganda
is not only dishonest, but of the smearing of views
commonly shared by a huge swath of Americans. I think
that this could be true in the sense that I

(19:42):
think that they not that I disliked the people that
worked for them and create content created content for them,
but I think that they picked people who were already
divisive on the right, who were already pushing certain types
of ideas. We'll just pay you to keep saying what
you've been saying. Right, There was there was a certain

(20:05):
aesthetic to everyone that was making content for them. If anything,
the person hiring was the one paid by the Russians
to hire certain voices who believed these right right. I
believe I'm quite certain that their Russian investor, like that
person approved everybody they hired. Okay, yeah, so I think

(20:31):
like a Russian is what I'm hearing. So emp Mama,
She's like, I'm so far from the social tramaw, I
don't know what's going on. I guess that's a good thing. Yes. So,
about a year ago, Lauren Chen and her and her
company were basically exposed as having been heavily heavily like
the huge amount of money that they had to build

(20:53):
tenant and to pay the creators was from Russia and
was tied to these like involved with these two other
Russian actors who had been indicted by the DOJ. So
and she's finally talking about it because the case has

(21:15):
been dismissed. Yes, oh, yes, yes, so we'll get here.
We'll get here. In any case, due to the political
nature of Garland's press release, our story quickly made international
headlines and we were falsely labeled spies, propagandists, and even traders.
We wanted to set the record straight, but in any
even spies and probably automatically implies to right. We wanted

(21:39):
to set the record straight, but it immediately became apparent
that any attempts to challenge the Biden DOJ resulted in
threats of harassed charges and potentially present I do think
that this is where we get into like that they
felt like they had no recourse to defend themselves, particularly
if now we're at the end of it and no
charges were filed, then I mean ity goot off. So

(22:01):
that's that's true. And so out of fear being separated
from our children and under the advice of counsel. We
chose to remain silent until we could be sure that
speaking out would not result in further judicial or extra
judicial punishment. Though there were never any criminal charges, much
less convictions. Due to this widely publicized investigation, all of
our professional contracts were promptly dropped. We were deplatformed from YouTube, TikTok, Discord,

(22:24):
and Google. We and even some of our family members
were debanked by several financial institutions. We were forced to
move due to death threats. Our work based immigration visa,
which work based immigration visa, which was torpedoed by the
actions against our company, was not renewed. The Canadian government
also seen to have opened their own investigation into US
following the highly publicized American case, and of course we

(22:47):
quickly amasked legal fees well into the six figures. Yes,
she's actually like, the visa thing is this huge deal.
But if you have a workplace visa, it's because you're
working at a specific job that's documented. It's not just like, oh,
I'm here and I'm going to work. So of course
the visa fe through. She lost her job, right, that's
how that works. Right, I agree that it is the

(23:09):
sheer level of cancelation of debanking and all this, it
does become a little bit squishier when when it's like
is a is a crime involved? I do think that
things like YouTube perhaps should put accounts on hold while
a crime is being investigated, but not completely delete them

(23:31):
and be prepared to give them back of the person
is not charged or found guilty or anything like that. Yeah,
although I don't know how everything works, but I know
that if if I'm setting an international wire, there are
some countries I cannot send wires to, like yourn is
one of them. There's certain like regulations that are federal,
so I can understand a bank just in terms of compliance,

(23:53):
being like, I don't want to touch that with the
ten foot poll because I don't want to get in
legal trouble if I'm caught helping funneling funds between Yes,
I can completely understand that. So there's I think there's
some nuanced conversation we had about that, and I don't
feel qualified to have it. But I do know personally
a couple people who were associates of Lauren's, friends of

(24:17):
Laurens who had maybe done a little bit of work
for her or you know, whatever. It was who also
had things unjustly taken from them Google accounts, banks, things
like that, And so there might be an extent, a
large extent, to which a company is just like trying
to distance themselves from a potential crime for their own

(24:37):
protection and a level of like this seems unjust if
family members and barely connected friends are being caught up
in this, Right, if there's only association to go off of,
that is right. But it's a really serious like thing
that was potentially happening here because it had a specific
relation to money coming from foreign government. So it might

(25:01):
not be a cancel culture thing, but like a really
harsh cost benefit analysis of it is not worth to
risk even a little bit, right, And there has to
be freedom to do business with the people you want
to do business with. So it's tough. That's a tough one.
But I do think at the very least, it's like
this is reasonable to complain about, Like this was a
heavy burden cost that you and your family and friends paid.

(25:22):
Something went wrong in March of this year, due to
high blood pressure caused by chronic stress, I was induced
and delivered our daughter. Despite the circumstances surrounding the pregnancy.
She is a happy and healthy baby and has been
a light in our lives during these difficulties, Thanks be
to God. I feel for her on this, but I
also kind of resent the way that it feels manipulative.

(25:46):
You guys make me so stressed that by holding me accountable,
that I had to deliver early, right and like the
get out again. That's why she shared the baby's face.
Look at this baby that you harmed by accusing me
of crulty. I absolutely think that that's the case. In April,
the US Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New
York and formed our lawyer that the investigation into us

(26:06):
and our company had finally been closed. This news provided
us with some relief, but it soon became clear that
although we weren't criminals, ZSDN y I had no interest
in restoring us to where we were before the investigation began,
though they could easily do so. She is implying, not
explicitly saying, but I think I saw in the comments
her kind of confirming. So I'm a little bit squishy
on this, but it sounds like they never gave them

(26:27):
their money back, and I'm unsure why that it would
be It could be that, or it could be she's
expecting to be compensated for all the issue, like you
can if you've been wrongfully convicted and then you're released
later on. They do like right, However, it's if they
kept the money. It also might mean she's lying about

(26:47):
whether the money was dirty or right it exactly, I mean,
like there could be corruption. It's so vague. Had no
interest in restoring us to where we were before the
investigation began. She's not explicitly saying nothing, like they stole
our money. Yeah, they never gave us back. So yeah,
there would be no similar press release absolving us of

(27:07):
the very public and very serious allegations that had been
made against us. There would be no help clearing our
names with the Canadian government. They would not restore our
visa status, and predictably, despite the lack of charges or conviction,
our financial assets, all our savings, would not be She
was specific about it, I apologize. So I do wonder

(27:28):
if this is way over the line or if she's
leaving out something really important here. That's a great question
because on the surface, the way she's spun it, it looks bad.
But party is like, yeah, how would that be a lot.
I'm curious to see how this shakes out. If she had,
you know, going public about this, if somebody comes to

(27:49):
her aid and gets that money returned or not yeah
or plot Twuss has been returned, She's just like potentially.
We have lived humbled this past year, both due to
financial woes and public vilification. We have had very little
certainty about what our future as a family will look like.
Because my American visa was contingent upon our company, we
had no choice but to leave our home in children's
place of birth. We are doing everything in our power

(28:11):
to get a new visa and return home. Sadly, we
also lost some people who we believed were our friends.
But more notably, we were blessed to have quite a
number of our colleagues reach out with words of support,
some even published if videos are posted in our defense.
I am humbled to say that there are too many
to think individually. We've also received many kind messages from
our audience during this time, and I cannot thank you
well enough. Your messages to support, which have continued to

(28:33):
come even though I've been gone from public life for
a year now, never fails to bring tears to my eyes.
No criminal charges were ever actually brought against myself, my husband,
or our company. The legal investigation has been quietly closed.
Despite this, the road ahead of us is fraught with
difficulty and uncertainty. I wish this ordeal was over, but
our struggles continue as we fight to correct the many
ways that our lives were upended. To that end, as

(28:54):
some of you have kindly suggested an offered, we are
now seeking help to cover our still growing legal fees
and our effort to return home. Any support is greatly appreciated,
and we look forward to getting back to our content
creation in our lives soon. Thank you. So couple couple things. Yes,

(29:18):
legal fees are still growing, so there's no case anymore,
but there's still legal fees growing. Question Mark. I think
that's just a lot of unanswered questions for me, and
it feels manipulative. So I don't know the truth. I
know what I concluded a year ago. I'm opened to

(29:40):
new things, but I think that there's an extent to
which this is what happens people. Something happens at the time,
people may or may not look into it deeply. Time passes,
and then the person that they want to like again
gives them just enough permission to dismiss everything that happened,
and they get the sob story. They attach. So many
people who have done bad things have attached themselves onto

(30:05):
Trump of like like the Tates for example. I like Trump.
I am being persecuted by by people trying to hold
me accountable for the crimes that I actually committed. I
did google why legal fees met Contitia grew after her
cases closed. There are a couple ways that it might,

(30:27):
including costs related to collecting judgments, unresolved feet disputes, enforcement
of settlements, or lawyer's pursuit of unpaid bills. But all
those would kind of indicate there's something ify on her side.
I think. I think so. The other kind of thing
here is that she was unlikely to be charged because
she was never a citizen of the United States. Oh,

(30:48):
she's a Canada. Might be charging Canada because she's saying
that she's still in trouble Canada. She said that. She
she said, we think maybe the Canadian government, or it
looked like the Canadian government might have opened a case.
Well no, but she also said, like the the the
people that didn't return her to her the place to
choose in before didn't restore her relationship with Canada. Oh

(31:11):
didn't imply is still a bad relationship. There's some variable, says,
here's my donation to the alternatively legal fees. Thank you,
thank you. Can we sue him now now that we
have money to No, No, it was worth a shot.
We are thinking about moving the LLC to Wyoming, but

(31:32):
we may or may not because there's no sales text
and Wynest sales tex. But if we don't have the shop,
then it's kind of pointless to go through. So that's
just that's neither here nor there. We'll burn that bridge
as we're crossing it. I don't know why Canada O.

(31:54):
Canada is crazy. So they can do whatever they want
will They will do whatever they want regardless of whether
we like it. But if she was spreading Russian propaganda
in the United States, influencing United States politics, I don't
know why what Canada would. Isn't she have an issue

(32:15):
with that? With I have a question. It's probably dumb one.
If you are Canadian and you're on a work visa
in America to support American politics in which you take
no part, are you a trader to Canada? Because if
I moved to Russia and made money off of supporting Putin?

(32:40):
Would that not make me a little sninky trader? Also,
I don't know follow follow question. She's Canadian, right, so
why is she invested in American politics and not trying
to become an American citizen? See that that that'sird? Is
So this is citation needed and I can't give it

(33:02):
to you. Insider source a friend a mutual friend of mine,
and Lawrence basically asked her like, what, yeah, some personal
questions around this, and she's like, she does not. The
conclusion was that she kind of explicitly said that she
does not care about the United States and the well
being in the United States. It's it's there's something she's

(33:26):
just happy to make money off of talking. And I
think a big part of it for Canadian commentators who
come to the United States to do commentary is that
they don't want to get in trouble with a lot
in Canada. I think this is the case for Door
and Peterson specifically, is that he was really running up

(33:47):
against legal stuff around Canada's crazy right, and his ability
to just stay employed and speak on the things he
felt were important were in conflicts. So I think that
the made a lot of sense for in to come
to the United States and work in the United States.
And I think that that's the same for Lauren Southern
to an extent of like I know, Lauren Southern lives

(34:10):
in Canada, she like actually lives in Canada and talks
a lot about Canadian politics. They need to have different names.
This is confusing. Also, shouldn't she be Laura Lauren Northern
if she's up in Canada. I think so, I would
assume she should. Now, I think there are we're starting

(34:34):
to see it more and more in very large political commentary,
Twitter accounts and other similar things, where there's a lot
of foreign people who are more or less overtly like,
more or less honest about being foreign, having strong voices,

(34:54):
pushing American politics in different directions. And they don't love America.
They don't love America, they don't care about America. They
might live here, they might not, but they're not citizens.
They're not voting in our elections. They're not actually invested
in the way that you would hope somebody would be
invested if if they're going to be telling us how

(35:15):
to how to write poems. And I don't think that
that that's like no one foreign should ever have an opinion.
But I do think that there it should be a
little bit more open and honest, and especially someone like
Lauren southerns who's like trying to start like she tried
she and her husband. Hang on, I'm having hard enough

(35:36):
time chasing down my thoughts as it is tonight for
some reason, probably because I didn't get to finish my dinner. Sorry,
I don't know. Sorry, guys, it's been a really hard night. Yeah.

(35:58):
How they won't go to sleep? Yeah? Sorry? Where was
I I'm trying to remember. Sorry, it's not that I
don't it's not that I think that no one foreign
can ever have something to say, But I do think
that there needs to be a lot more transparency, and
I do think it's it was really weird that and

(36:20):
she doesn't take responsibility for it in that whole post,
that this is a Canadian citizen who started a company
in the United States to push, you know, to influence
United States politics, to make money on United States politics
with money investor money, like one hundred percent investor. It's

(36:45):
not like one investor happened to be like all of
the money was Russian and you're not going to take
any responsibility for that. You think you're you're completely a
victim in this at the very least. I think she
was stupid. Is still is Yeah, it was and is stupid.

(37:06):
I think that you can't just make money any which
way you want to, like it does actually matter. Yeah,
where are your money is coming from and what the
powers that be are behind it? Thanks the m P Mama,
I I I appreciate the person for my lack of

(37:26):
brain power. Okay, let's move on through. I so I
call bs on all the people who are like I
don't trust Ben Shapiro because he's from Israel and they
have other loyalty and like, we can't have people who
have like any loyalty to Israel living in America, but
you're fine with politicians who are not from America and

(37:48):
are don't love America. Ben was literally born here, citianated Ben.
He has the right of return. He wasn't born in
this house. I think like people can get a little
tripped upon, like if you have a dual citizen. I
don't know what the status on Ben's citizenship is, but
at least he has citizenship. He has you know, yeah,

(38:10):
he has American citizenship he has obviously, he's pro is real.
He has right of return if he wanted to return,
he could. Variables like Ben's and Ben Shapir's initials are ps.
I'm not saying, I'm just saying yes, no, but like
the same because Lauren Chen was taking this turn into

(38:32):
the anti Semitic like line and the people, some of
some of the people who were defending her are defending
her because they're in that sphere, and it's like, yes,
Candace Owan's is another is another one. She married a
British guy, Like, what's this? Also? I love that I
can tell Lauren Chen to go home and not be

(38:54):
racist because I'm talking about Canada. Go back to where
you came from. Okay, Yes, So I think that that's
That's something I'm working on a lot. In the world
we're living in today, it is so difficult to tell
what is true and what is false, whether it's an image, AI,

(39:14):
whether it's any anything. Are people who they say they
are are? Do they believe what they say they believe?
Do they stand like all of these things? Is this
person trustworthy? Are they telling the truth? And I wanted
to just read through the statement because I think it was.
I think it was a decent case study in like manipulation,

(39:37):
and you know what things that she's saying might be
true and what might not be. So we'll continue to
keep an eye on that. I like to follow up
on the stories I have covered in the past, because
I think that that doesn't happen enough in our news
cycles that people will cover something and they just never
follow up on it. I do think it's interesting that
it was dropped. Yeah, that that at the very least

(40:00):
they weren't able to find sufficient anything to pursue to
continue to pursue it. And it could be the money's
not coming back because she's not allowed to keep any
money from Russia and it was all from Russia. Yeah, yeah,
I don't know, because she said some of it was
from contracts with the Blaze and TPUSA, but it might
have all, you know, depending on how they were keeping

(40:20):
their money. It might have all gone into like if
all of it was in an offshore bank and there's
no way to because she crowded it through shell companies
and there was no way to prove that it came
from the Blaze as opposed to Russian media. Then it's like, well,
I can see why they would keep that. Sorry, Yeah,

(40:43):
there is like a take responsibility for your actions, Like
there's a huge extent to which no one made her
do this. She was not Like if she was just upstanding,
creating her content, speaking on politics, this never would have happened.
And she made it out like, oh, it's just because

(41:04):
we were supporting Trump. But that's not Russian money. Also,
is it more dirty stinky trader for me to take
money from Russia or for me to give money to Russia?
If I'm like, your poot, have two dollars buy yourself
something nice from the grocery store, that's a good question.
I think I think taking money because the idea is
like there's probably some strings attached, but let me go

(41:26):
do both and then see which one I get charged
the most for anyway, praed. This is hard because there
I John and I were going through have been going
through a really difficult financial time for a while now,
and a friend of mine in the world that we're

(41:46):
talking about, yes, gave us some money as a gift.
He's not Russian the time that we know of. That's deporting,
and part of me was like, do we accept this? Like,
but he made it very clear, like and you can
turn around tomorrow and publicly disagree with me, and that's okay,

(42:09):
and so like, the text messages are there if anyone
questioned it. So, but that stuff is hard and you
have to ask those questions and you have to be
careful in those ways when when something like that happens,
even if it is ostensibly a gift. So question what
if someone gives us a rubble rant and all they
say in the rubble rant is for Mother Russia? Are

(42:32):
we in trouble for having that money? Depends on how
much it is probably good to know no may do that.
That reminds me of fury. It was like fifty dollars
for cat. My husband's like, you're not worrying cat phones.
I'm so disappointed from the Donald. Yeah, it was. It

(42:57):
was my good friend Donnie who sent me that money.
He was like, here, this should cover a couple coffees
for you. He's like, what could a coffee cost fifty dollars?
I don't know one new toilet for your because he
has a solid I was gonna say he only gave
us enough for goalplay a toilet, and I was going
to bring that up, but I didn't want to seem

(43:19):
unfl just you know. Okay, fifteen minutes left and then
we will really ever recover. Okay, I have to share.
Let's see, I have to reshare the screen in order

(43:40):
to get this one to do the audio correctly because ted.
But this is so fascinating, So we'll start here on
this story of what's been quick in Germany.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
Yesterday I read four German AFT candidates who were supposed
to sit in the elections. Suddenly, four politicians that are
a part of the AfD in Germany, which supports mass
deportations or them, died unexpectedly. I woke up today and
it was six AfD politicians died suddenly in the last hour.

(44:17):
It is now seven AfD politicians died suddenly, seven from
one party, one party in Germany which supports mass deportations.
And this is before key state elections. But put that
intra perspective. Imagine any party in your country, any one party,

(44:38):
had seven of their politicians die suddenly a foreign election,
especially when they're the opposition just before elections, a party
that's been gaining a lot of traction in Germany, seven
candidates yesterday.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
Also, that thing that said yes'fty. Now, I'm sure it's
a coincidence. I'm sure once is a one off. Twice
it's a coincidence. Three times it's also a coincidence. Four
times is also the coincidence is not a pattern? ALTI
I love that this is not the be Seven right

(45:15):
wing German candidates die within two weeks of each other,
just days before the election. Well, this is just the
wildest string of coincidence onces you ever saw, isn't it. Seven?
Now the right wing anti parties losing so many candidates
before the election that the media can't even keep up.
That's you cannot convince me that this is just a

(45:36):
coincidence unless they had a potluck dinner and they all
got food poisoning from the same dish? Did they have?
So let's see. This is from newsweek. Four candidates running
for local office in the northwest German state. Local authorities
reported last month. The deaths all took place within thirteen
days of each other. According to The European Conservative This Week,

(45:57):
AFTI state deputy leader Kate got Chuck said two reserve
candidates also died. In an interview with Politico's Berlin Playback playbook,
Pockets so people who were like actually running and then
people who were kind of in reserved to run if
something happened. Yes, also, which is like wild. Investigations are ongoing,
but police said there is no evidence of foul play,

(46:17):
with most of the deaths involving pre existing health conditions
and natural causes of North Rhine Westphalia Afty spokesper Central Politico.
According to the German daily newspaper Develts translation of the
podcast episode, Yep, no foul play. Just all these people
running for office in the Verboten Party all happened to
die at the same time. A coincidence of coincidences. Candidates
Ralph Lange sixty six, Wolfgang Clinger seventy one, Stefan Burrendi's

(46:42):
fifty nine and Wolfgang Sites fifty nine are the first
four who died within two weeks of each other. The
city of Rhyme Burke announced Sites his death on August
twenty first, before the city of short set on August
twenty six that Clearer had died unexpectedly on August nineteenth.
The next day of the city of Blomberg announced the
unfortunate death of Lange on August twenty seventh, and on
August twenty, the city of bad Lip Springs said Brandy's

(47:02):
died unexpectedly. This was the video we already watched. The
liberal parties that control Germany have tried to stop the
Surgeon popularity for the ft by outright banning the party
for the sake of democracy. Of course, they designated an
extremist organization and etc. So I do wonder if we're

(47:23):
seeing like heart attack, gun action or just a good
old hit man. Well, I mean, someone who's making it
look like an accident, like like natural causes in line
with their like pre existing health conditions. So my guess
is this is heart attacks. But maybe hopefully more will

(47:47):
come out about this because this is conservatism is a
pre existing condition. It is okay, ten more minutes to
speed run the Epstein updates, because I'm guys, I'm so
tired of the Epstein story, and I kind of think
that as the point of the op to drag it

(48:10):
out and drag it out and make it such a
joke until we are so tired and so desperate to
move on from it that either we will demand we
move on from it and they get to shut up
about it, or they can publish the truth and people
will be like, I don't care, I don't want to
talk about it like I have. I'm just tired of it. Yeah.
So the other night, Representative Anna Paulina Luna said public

(48:32):
release of Epstein piles coming any minute now. This did
not happen. I don't know how a representative is tweeting
something like this, and like I didn't believe her at
the time, but like, how do they get off tweeting
things like this and then not releasing the fire like
it's just yeahs, it's like yelling fire in the theater.

Speaker 4 (48:53):
Yeah, this this this meme, the Pam Bondi Epstein files
is the football.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
What's his name from Linus? No, that's not like, no,
the main character is not Charlie. Charlie, Yeah, Charlie. It's
like conservatives, but it is. It does feel like that.
It's it feels like such a psychological operation to just
completely discourage it seems, and like to make absolute mockery

(49:30):
of it. Matt Walls said this, and I fully agreed.
I said, I think that Trump Adman should release all
of its Epstein information, as I've said many times, but
it is pure political theater to hold a big press
conference with Epstein victims, where they speak cryptically about all
the powerful people implicated in this scandal, but refuse to
actually name any of them. We know the names, but
we'll tell you later. Is bullshit. Then why are you
holding a press conference? What is this a teaser trailer?

(49:52):
People are making a game out of this issue on
all sides. Extremely frustrating to watch, one hundred percent. Charlie Brown, Yes,
sorry again, brain's out w tonight. Have had a headache
most of the night, for all of the night. He
also said, reminds me of Adam Schiff talking for months
but having seen the Russian inclusion dossier. Yeah. Yeah, it's
just it's so it's so bad. And honestly, like at

(50:14):
this point, if you're not going to tell me who
it is, and you're just gonna allude to the fact
that there is written right powerful people, I'm going to
just assume it's you, right and everyone right. Sarah Field's
reported Epstein victims say they will be releasing their own list. Quote,
we know the names. Many of us were abused by them.
We will compile the names. We all know. We're regularly
in the Epstein world. Go ahead, keep gaslighting the victims.

(50:35):
And telling them that the list doesn't exist. Sorry ahead, Yeah,
this is like, we haven't quite seen a development like
this before, so I am interesting interested to see how
this will play out. However, this is one that didn't
make it. Our next episode is going to be seven
of the people who play our a building will have died. Right.

(50:55):
This didn't make it into my notes, but I send
it to you a little bit earlier. So this is
a response to the Thomas Massey tweets. I'll ready Thomas
Massey tweet. First, it's the kind of repetitive, but survivors
at our press conference announced they are privately compiling their
own Epstein list. They would be sued into homelessness for
naming names, but Representative Marjorie Taylor Green and I are
willing to name names in the House of Representatives under

(51:16):
constitutional speech or debate immunity. So the idea, the idea
is that these it's a little bit slippery here, right.
What he's saying is that these survivors are going to
compile the list of names, and then they are going
to give that list to himself and Marjorie Taylor Green,
and then they're going to go trust us, bro. This

(51:37):
is the list of the people that they gave us,
and then they're going to read out the names. They're
not going to swap it with another list with names
on it. That they're not going to add any names,
They're not going to subtract any names. Just trust Thomas
Massey and Marjorie Taylor Green that they are going to
be completely honest and upstanding with this. That makes me

(52:01):
really nervous because I'd be interested to see how that
plays out. But Sean Ferrish said, it makes a really
good point here because Thomas said, or Massy Thomas Massy,
but I should call it Massy said. They would be
sued into homelessness for naming names. So Sean says, do

(52:22):
you know what this actually means? This means the victims
do not possess enough evidence that would shield them from
getting sued. I want to believe these victims, but this
means straight up that their claims will not hold up
in court. It means that ironclad evidence doesn't exist anymore.
No blackmail tapes, no client list, which honestly is a shame,
but that that's what is being admitted here. Yeah, and

(52:44):
I would not have I would not have realized that
now it's possible that Massy is just kind of exaggerating
rather than like trying to admit that that's the case.
But that's heavily the implies right that, Yeah, like if
they if they had tapes, is this just him taunting them?

(53:10):
I don't know it. It is just really wild to me. Now,
it's possible that the victims can't you know, it would
get sued and they don't possis It's not that the
evidence doesn't exist, but they are not in possession of
it or in control of it. Like perhaps the blackmail
tapes exist, but they couldn't. They don't have access to

(53:33):
that to use it in court to defend themselves, and
unless the government stepped in and gave them access to it,
then they would be up a creek. But h Sata says, dude,
damning evidence defo got scrubbed. The question at this point
is when and who did it? Yeah, this whole thing
has been a mess, and I've been really, really really
disappointed and displaced with how Pam Bondy and just the

(53:56):
entire Trump administration has handled this. They didn't have to
promise it to us, but they did, and they made
a big show of it. Then they guess let us,
and then something happened, and I would like to know
what happened between here's phase one in the minders and
everything's on my desk and I have seen I mean,
there's hundreds and hundreds of hours of stuff to Oh

(54:17):
it's gone, it never existed. How dare you? Maybe it's
something that we wouldn't expect, and that Biden was really
seen out and he drew over all the files of
crayons and they can't read them now, and they're really
embarrassed that they like they have them, but they're just
not legible anymore.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
I feel like I feel like they can fix that. Yeah,
to be clear, your piet body is still hot. Sure,
I'll allow it.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Variable it's easy to post like that when he knows
that nobody whacked will will ever actually be named. Also,
Massey would be safe from prosecution and liability, but if
the source ever got leaked, and it did have to
in order to verify the veracity of the list of source,
would still be liable. What I will, what I'm worried
might happen, is Massy an MTG come out, speak a list,

(55:12):
never back it up. Just say trust this bro, this
is what this is. This is the list, the whole list,
and nothing but the list that the survivors compiled for us.
And they could do serious damage to the reputations and
careers of anyone that they wanted to, whether or not
there was actually evidence against those people, Massy and Marjorie

(55:37):
Taylor Green, even just the threat of that could be
wielding blackmail level power in Congress, out in the open,
right in front of all our eyes, with the cheering
of a lot of American people. So it's just a
very interesting situation I'm interested to see play out. Yeah, okay,

(55:58):
well I wow. I'm gonna go relieve John. But thank
you for being here with us tonight. We will see
you on Monday for another Bible study should be and
I love you. Well behaved. Don't take money for Russians. Yeah,
don't take money from Russians or candy or anything. Don't
take anything for Russians, not candy, not candy. Good night, filty,

(57:05):
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