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Speaker 1 (00:53):
Hello, and welcome to Conspiracy Pilled Overdose, Episode one, Episode one,
Episode one, Starting a new Thing, Starting a new thing,
And we can, okay, first of all, we can argue
whether it should be overdose or overdosed, because me, John
and Liz don't necessarily agree. But I think, no, I'm
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not going to tell you what I think. Some of
us think it makes sense for it to be conspiracy
Pilled overdosed because both have the ED, and some of
us think that it flows better if you say conspiracy
pilled conspiracy pilled overdose. So that's but I think I
think the more pressing question is why why would we
change the name And I'm not going to answer that
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until after we get behind the paywell, because we're not
behind the paywall, and I'm going to introduce the show,
and then we're going to get behind the paywall, and
then I'm going to explain to you why the name is.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Do we agree?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
We don't do?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Liz and I agree you do? Oh well, okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Liz doesn't have an opinion. She just has a memory
of which thing we agreed to, which is not one
of the things that at any rate.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
As I am looking in the camera my camera's not mirrored,
so tinfoil reads backwards. LEO, Yeah, yeah, I don't. I
don't know what this is.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Guys, we can I think I can fix that. You
are fixed it, okay. So for those of you who
are here and you shouldn't be because this is a
paywall show. I'm just kidding, you are welcome to find
out what the show is going to before I kick
you out. So this is our Thursday night. Oftentimes, will
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either do a smaller conspiracy that's too too short, too
sparse for a Wednesday night full show, or more commonly,
we will do a smattering of headlines from the week
or conspiracy topics conversations that came up over the week
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over the last couple of weeks that we want to
chat out with you, And that's what we're doing tonight.
It'll be this tweet thread I found about the Beast
Kingdom and a conspiracy theory around revelation that I had
just it's really obvious, but I had never considered it before,
and I just really want to talk to you about
it because it blew my mind and it shouldn't have
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because it was so obvious, you know, you know those
things with it just so obvious, Like, how come I
didn't figure that out? Anyway, I'm really excited that I'll
be at the end of the show. We'll chat a
little bit about the latest Noah's Arc news in Noah's
Arc archaeology, uh, and then the the I think the
largest section of tonight will be chatting about the plane
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the Qatar gave to Trump and kind of looking at
both sides of that little argument. So I am going
to uh a switch to switch to locals only, up
to everybody, all right, yeah that I think this dream
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will be for local supporters only in twenty to twenty
one seconds. Okay, anyway, that's count John's happening. So John, John,
you were here tonight.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I I was not expecting to be here. Liz, it
sounds like was ran into some stuff at her day job.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
So yeah, she texted me a little bit ago to
say that they'd run into a problem and they weren't
sure how long it was going to take to solve
said problem. And then she was like, we solved the problem,
but we found more problems. So at any rate, they're
not they I think I know she's on the road now,
so you might see her poker head, and you might not.
We'll see, depends on when she is.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
She may pop in and grab Gideon.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Yes, he's been very quiet for now. He's over in
that corner.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Over. I'm your over over He's not.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I can't. It doesn't matter. Okay, let's see what is
saying about about overdose. Let's see. Monkey says call nine
one one? Is it because of being overdosed? Overdosed? Gypsy?
Overdose whim says over dough dost said Satyr, that's not
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one of the options. Gypsy says, stop taking so many pills.
Satyrs has let me have this, please, Satyrs is O
B E R D O A S E D. I
don't know, Sweet Bunny says, I like both. Overdose makes
more sense written overdose sounds better. That's the problem. That's
exactly think you put it better than I did. That's
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exactly exactly what what it is. We can have an
overdose as a treat this. Gypsy Bunny demands an explanation
for Lona's absence. We have given it. She demands it.
We have given it.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I don't know if we can explain it further.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah, without doxing her work. Probably not. She'll I'm sure,
she'll hop in the discord later and tell you any
further details she would like to. I am curious what
has gone so wrong to kept her? I think an
extra hour at work. Uh, let's see, let's see, Swim says,
I'm I'm right, it should be overdose. I didn't say
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which one was my anyway, Let's see, let's see. The
problem was a bankrupper. Probably, could could be, could be Okay,
it sounds like we're still maybe leaning a little bit
toward overdose, but still pretty split down the middle. We'll
figure it out. So the reason that we we've been
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talking about changing the name for a couple of weeks,
and last week we didn't because I just didn't have
time to read USIDN thumbnil. That's the only reason this
didn't happen last week. But we've been the three of us, Liz, Liz,
John and I have been talking a lot about what
we want the show to be.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah, the show.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Vision a vision boarding, mission, statementing, things like this, And
I think the big thing that we've kind of come
to over the last little bit is that we want
this show to be about being grounded in reality. That
as much as we love the conspiracy theories, and we
love getting off and considering what things might be true,
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could be true, might be lies. We want this to
be a secure place where you can come and feel
grounded in reality. I have a close friend who told
me as I was kind of launching the show, as
we were launching the show, that she would like conspiracy theories,
but whenever she tries to go listen to a conspiracy theory,
she always ended up feeling really ungrounded and really anxious,
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and that stuck in my head because I didn't want
that to be true about our show. I wanted and
she has in fact watched the show several times and
felt good about watching it, and that's exactly what I
wanted to be. I want us to be able to
talk about things in a way that doesn't leave you
feeling unmoored and unhinged. And I realized that the name
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of our show unhinged, and even just the whole kind
of joke and concept of like, oh, we're going to
get unhinged now, is kind of there's nothing wrong with
it as a joke, and we'll still probably still use
that language, but it's kind of going against what we
want the mission and spirit of it to be, which
is that we do stay hinged, that we take an
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unhinged thing and we find hinges, that we take a
theory and we say, how how does this ground in reality?
How can this make sense? What parts of this are true?
Why is it sticking in people's minds, even a theory
that we don't necessarily agree with, Why is it capturing
people's imaginations? What aspects about it are true? And the
point being to take something and ground it in reality
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and make it safe and good. So that's kind of
so instead of being unhinged, we just want you to
be overdosed, yeah, which is way healthier.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Of overdosed and conspiracy theories rather out there like that
one guy, this one guy, I don't like.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Them butting chemicals in the water.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Turn the friggin frogs.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Day, Buddy says, I like this. You guys have always
had that bend, which is what drew me to your
show to begin with. That it's really nice to hear here,
says he's unsubscribing. Fair. Oh no, Swim says, should the
unhinged channel and discord be changed? Uh, let's continue to
talk about that. Gypsy Princess votes for overdosing another conspiracy overdosing.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
I that could be a decent compromise.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
We'll keep talking about it, and when Low's gets here
after the show, we'll talk about it some more. I
think I put overdose on the thumbnail, which probably gives
a way where I stand, but we can easily change it.
We I had already made the THUMBNI when I realized
that John and Liz weren't on the same page with me,
I'll figure that out.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
If you had made the thumbnail and I was getting
the livestream ready and I was looking at your template description,
I was like, overdose. We're going with overdose, but is
what is? I don't think it's bad. I just I
was undecided on what what was better? Yeah, And I
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was just like, are we sure this we want to do.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Over I think it's a valid debate as far as
like what's better. I don't think there's like one really
clear answer.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Conspiracy filed Oops it's poison.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Oh Swim says I said two people wanted overdose. That's
what gave it away. Fair. Uh, Christiano says, Abby's a
fed confirmed she's trying to get us on drugs. Fair.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Fair, I mean, you're just you're overdosing on the show.
It's really that's what it is. Conspiracy build.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
And Liz is the one who came up with this
concept of overdose because I was like, I want something
that's kind of like after hours, but not after hours,
and she's like overdose. So she's brilliant.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Anyway you would you would indeed overdose after it. I
mean people overdose all throughout the day.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
But John would know he's a giver of narcan.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Probably no, no, uh, pull pull up, pull up my Twitter?
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Oh straight at it?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Narket that is that has been my Twitter. I don't
know if I can pull it up profile pick.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
I don't know at any rate. At any rate, let's
get into it. Let's get into the show. So before
we kind of get into the other stuff, just quick
note off the top. The Diddy trial has begun. Today
was day four. Cassie Ventura was tested, gave her testimony
in the first three days, and today was the beginning
of her cross examination. I haven't watched any of it.
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It does not seem as if any bombshells have been
dropped anything that we didn't already know. Oh, everything she's
testifying to appears to be was already been public in
her lawsuit that we've talked about pretty extensively on this show.
But I did want to point this out because if
something big happened in the trial, there's a solid chance
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that it would be kind of covered up or memory
hold and not hit the news. In fact, it's hitting.
The fact that the trial's happening is hitting the news
way less than I would have expected for something this big.
So the only I think kind of piece of news
it's been going around is that the potential jurors were
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presented with a list of celebrities that were going to
be somewhat involved in the trial, and most of the
names were expected. A couple of them were slightly unexpected,
But it's it's so unclear from that list what relationship
those celebrities have with the story that I didn't feel
like it was worth speculating on since the trial's already
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ongoing or we're going to know in a few days
to a few weeks anyways. So that's just a note
that I'm keeping my eye on my eye on the news.
You guys, keep your eye on the news, send me
whatever you see. So the first real story I wanted
to get into is this Noah's Arc thing?
Speaker 2 (13:17):
This?
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Did any of you in chat? Tell me? Did you
see this news about Noah's Arc going around? Liz sent
it to me.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Let's see, I have not. I so that Liz was
supposed to beyond tonight and I am as cold as
you guys are chat.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Oh crap. I didn't mean to do it like that.
I meant step do do get your screen share in order? Abby. Okay,
So I haven't actually read this.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I was.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
My plan was to just live react to it, live,
read it, live, react to it with you guys. So
this is from the Daily Mail, which we know to
be super super serious.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Always best general journalism.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yes, bombshell discovery at site of Noah's Ark, which they
put in quotations for, probably because there's some debate as
to the actual site of Noah's Ark, but saide of Nosark,
which researchers say could prove biblical story true. I feel
like every few years, every five years, maybe there's like
a big story about Noah's Ark being founded, then it
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ends up being not true or not reputable. I remember
in high school there was like a massive story where
they were like, we found it, We definitively found it.
Here are the pictures. Here's the walkthrough that ended up
being a hoax. So we'll see. We're going to evaluate
to see if this is like the real deal or
if it's just another tease. So let's see. According to
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the Bible, the massive vessel, Oh sorry, I skipped the
first stuff. High in the mountains of Turkey sits a
mysterious geological formation that some research researchers believe could be
the remains of Noah's Ark. So that's existed for a while.
We've heard that news before. I think. According to the Bible,
the massive vessel saved humanity in every kind of animal
from annihilation during a catastrophic flood more than four three
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hundred years ago. Now, a team of American researchers working
at Durapinar formation near Mount Ararat has uncovered evidence of
angular structures and a void deep within the mountain. Okay
Andrew Jones, an independent researcher with Noah's Arc scans, used
ground penetrating radar to detect what appeared to be a
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thirteen foot tunnel running through the center of the formation.
The scans also captured three layers below the earth, matching
the biblical description of the boat having three decks. That's
a really cool detail.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
You know what I think? What I think they need
to get TJ alert out there.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah, they got to get TJ out out there. Okay,
let's see the Book of Genesis six sixteen. This is
a weird way to say that. The anyway states make
a roof for the arc and finish it to a
cubit above and set the door of the arc in
its side. Make it with lower, second and third decks. See,
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whenever the Bible gives like these specific details, there's always
a reason. And a lot of times I wonder if
the reason is because God knows what things we're gonna
find in archaeology later and what details to put in
so that we can have proof. But perhaps perhaps perhaps
other reasons, perhaps metaphorical significant, metaphorically significant reasons. The three
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decks symbolize something I don't know anyway, And a new
analysis of the team's GPR data claims to have found
central inside corridors or always running through the boat. We're
not expecting something that's fully preserved. What's left is the
chemical imprint, pieces of wood and in the ground the
shape of a hall. Jones told the Christian Broadcasting Network CBM.
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So that's the thing. If it was, if the if
this has been covered, if the boat which was made
of wood and cut coated in pitch, which would make
it with stand time a little bit better than regular wood,
maybe a lot better than regular wood. But it has
been four thousand plus years, so we wouldn't expect much
wood to be left over. It's kind of the negative
space I think that they're expecting to find, or they
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think might be possible to find. I don't even know
if they would expect the wood to be petrified or
just just kind of rotted away within whatever its sediment
is covering it. So far, the scans have revealed angular
structures as deep as twenty feet beneath the surface, features
that could represent rooms below a deck like platform pictured
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In Genesis six fourteen, the Bible describes the arc make
thee an arc of gopher wood rooms. Shall thou make
in the arc, and shall pitch it within and without
with pitch, pictured as a recreation of what the arc
may have looked like. Located just eighteen miles south of
Mount Ararat, Turkey's highest peak, the Durapinar format has only
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been known to the modern world for less than a century.
According to local reports, heavy rains and earthquakes in May
nineteen forty eight washed away surrounding mud. Nineteen forty eight
is an interesting year for this to happen, considering that
that's when Israel was founded, and also right around or
the year that they found the scrolls, the Dead Sea scrolls. Yes,
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let's see, heavy rains and earthquakes in May nineteen forty
eight washed away surrounding mud, revealing the mysterious formation. It
was then discovered by a Kurdish shepherd. The Bible states
that Noah's ark came to rest on the mountains of Ararat.
I think a lot of people who have a Sunday
School knowledge of the Bible think, oh, it landed on
Mount Air a rat, But that's not what the Bible says.
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The Bible says the mountains of Ararat, So anywhere within
that region, that region is fair game. After a one
hundred and fifty day flood that drowned the earth in
every living creature not sheltered inside the wooden vessel, I
am pressed with how much scripture this this, this is
a good article like that, They're really they're really quoting
their source material. Okay, what's intriguing is that the formation
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sits near mountain with a peak that some believe matches
the ARC's shape and dimensions. According to biblical measurements, the
arc was three hundred cubits long, fifty cubits wide, and
thirty cubits high, roughly five hundred and fifteen feet long,
eighty six feet wide, and fifty two feet tall. The
idea that the arc landed on Mount a Rat has
long sparked debate.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Well.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Many scientists argue that the formation is a naturally occurring
geological feature. Others are convinced it points to something far
more extraordinary.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
The team, I mean, I mean, just just look at that.
That best structure just looks odd, guys, it does.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
It's it's big, it's a little bit.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
I my mind is maybe going to a bad play
that it reminds me of an amatomical.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Landmark, a feature unique to biological woman certain gender. Okay,
let's see. Let's see. The team that knows our scans
firmly believes the latter researchers used ground penetrating radar to
detect what appeared to be a thirteen foot tunnel. Running
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through the center of the formation. This is the radar
scan here. The team has only been allowed to use
non invasive testing methods such as ground penetrating radar. So
be amazing if they could do a borehole or something
like that.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
But so far, Yeah, just like you know, actual archaeology.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Yes, yes, let's see. Speaking to CBN News on Friday,
Jones shared new details about the scans he and his
team of independent researchers have conducted over the past few
years at the durapin Our formation. So far, the scans
have revealed angular structures as deep as twenty feet beneath
the surface, features that could represent rooms below a deck
like platform.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Sator says he sees it too.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
In Genesis six fourteen, the Bible describe the arc, make
the an arc of gopher wood rooms. Shall the make
in the arc, and shall pitch it within him without
with pitch, and.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
You or a monkey says please don't, please, don't mention
bholes with that pictures.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Is they're going to drill into it? Oh no, guys,
this is a Bible story. This is not what you'd
expect to see at the site. We're simply a solid
block of rock. Or the result of random blood flow debris.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
We're allowed to be uncensored on on our locals only,
So there there is that.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
That's that's true, all uncensored. Uh. But it is exactly
what you'd expect to find if this where a man
made boat, consistent with the biblical specifications of Noah's arc.
The team has also performed soil testing uncovered with Joey,
uncovering what Jones described as some interesting things in quotes,
and a new analysis of the team's GPR data showed
central inside corridors are always running through the boat. This
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is okay. You can kind of see in this picture
these red red areas that are the voids that they're
kind of tracing out and calling corridors. Let's see. The
team is also detected angular structures up to twenty feet
below the surface, so you can see that a little
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bit of radar mapped onto the formation. According to the Bible,
the massive vessel saved humanity and every kind of animal
from annihilation during a catastrophic flood more than four thousand,
three hundred years ago. This is a famous painting. I
don't know who did this, but I've seen this many times.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Uh, Getty Images has the copyright.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
I think it's a famous painting, Okay. We noticed that
the grass growing within the boat shaped formation is a
different color compared to the area just outside it, he said,
suggesting this could point to a man made origin rather
than a natural one. William Crabtree, another member of Noah's
Arc scans, added that a tunnel appears to run from
the tip of the formation toward the middle, and it
is large enough to walk through. He also discussed soil analysis,
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noting that organic matter was found to be twice as
high inside the formation compared to the surrounding soil. The
potassium levels inside are also about forty percent higher. Crabtree said,
if you know soil science, as I'm a soil scientist,
you'll understand the potassium levels, organic matter, and pH can
all be influenced by decaying organic material. If this was
a wooden boat and the wood had rotted over time,
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we would expect to see elevated levels of potassium, changes
in pH and higher organic content, and that's exactly what
we're finding. Jones and the team plan to expand their
soil testing efforts beyond the twenty two samples that they
have already collected. They also aim to complete a core
drilling survey, see boreholes, and conduct additional ground penetrating radar
scans around the site. We want to compare what's inside
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the formation to what's outside. Jones said, that could give
us a much clearer picture of whether this is truly
something man made. Thoughts chat, John, what do you guys think.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
It'd be real neat if this was it? Of course,
until there's like actual evidence. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I like that it's not overly sensationalized. And I do
appreciate when there's a scientific approach where someone says, look,
if this is true, this is what we'd expect to see.
We tested, we found the thing, we found the thing.
Those are like falsifiable types of Okay. If they had
tested and what they expect to see hadn't been there,
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then they would say, okay, well hopefully anyway, let's see
Satar says they're gonna find Nephi bones in it. Bookmark
this post. I don't know. I think I think the
point of the flood was that no Nephi's survived.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Yes, Monny thinks would dark would their bones still? No?
Because because their bones are pink Himalay and salt.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Yes, all the nephews are pink him a land.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Salt, except for the ones that still exist. But that's
not here nor there.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Neither here nor there. Okay, well we'll leave that alone
and do a hard not too hard of a shift
because era At where is Ararat? Where is ara Rat?
We're going to dun Middle East, somewhere eastern Turkey. Okay,
So we're going to take a little trip. We're gonna yeah,
we're going to take a little trip over to Katar
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and talk about our good friends in Katar. Which let's
see if I can make this bigger. I had to.
We've been talking about Qatar quite a bit on Twitter lately,
and I did not actually know where it was. So
this is where it is, Saudi Arabia. It's just like
this little pimple on the side of Saudi Arabia.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
What they have oil or something? Yeah, yeah, a little
bit of oil.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
I don't know a lot about it, but I do
know that Katar spends eight tons of money on the
United States. They spend a ton of money on capturing
our higher education. They spend a ton of money lobby
They spend way more money lobbying than Israel. We talk
a lot, and there are to be fair, there are
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valid critiques to any foreign country spending a lot of
money lobbying our politicians, any of our politicians that are
clearly getting a lot of money from these lobbies and
pushing certain things as a result, we don't want our
politicians to be bought. However, if we're going to complain
about APAC and not complain about Katar, I have questions
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because Qatar is spending a of money. It came out.
I don't think we actually end up discussing it on
the show because things were getting crazy around that time,
but it did come out that Katar had been funding
some influencers, some agents to be pushing narrative on online.
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So yeah, okay, okay, Doki, let's get to the the story.
So the first when I'm going to show, there's two
articles I wanted to show on this.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Switch.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
There we go. This is from writers, So this is
about the plane. Trump's quote palace in the sky plane
gift concerns some Republicans. I think this is a really
weird headline.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
So was it a president president to President Trump, the
individual or the office of the president.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
This is debated, and I will show you it's kind
of the answers kind of both. So let's see Washington,
May fourteenth, multiple congressional Republicans raised concerns about President Donald
Trump's desire to accept a four hundred million dollar airplane
from Qatar, as rival Democrats slammed the plan as an
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illegal foreign donation and national secure already threat. So this
is immediately. This is why I think that the headline
is kind of weird because it makes it sound like
this is only concerning Republicans as opposed to concerning all
Democrats and some Republicans. Liz is here, Hello, Liz, say hi,
and come get giddy. Okay, Liz can also get bean out.
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Let's see yeah uh yeah, yeah Monday that it would
be stupid Boeing seven four seven eight airplane, which would
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be used as US one, the jet American presidents travel
on when they fly around the globe. So this is
immediately what's I think raising the biggest concerns. I think
it would already be a concern for US to accept
a gift of that nature because it feels like a bribe.
But it's raising even higher concerns because Air Force one
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is not your typical plane. It's obviously the plane that
carries the president. It has an incredibly high amount of
security features on it. It's it's it's made so that
it can be refueled in mid air so it can
stay up there indefinitely. There's a lot of things about
it that make it unique. And so the idea of
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switching it out for a plane made by a foreign
country is a little concerning. Slightly slightly, but we'll get
into that.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Well. I mean, they accept it and then they like yes,
and they are examine it top to bottom to make.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Sure yeah, and they're.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Not tracking the president.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
By all accounts, that is what is happening. That it's
being gone over with a fine youth gome. But Katari
Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Shaikh Muhammad bin abdullahman al Sani,
that is just an insanely long name.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Like I'm sorry, you say, going over with a fine
tooth comb like they did in Spaceballs in the Desert.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
To CNN on Wednesday that the offer was quote a
very simple government to government dealing, not a personal gift
to Trump, and that quote, of course, it would be
withdrawn if the transaction were deemed illegal. The aircraft eventually
would be donated to Trump's Presidential Library Foundation and used
by him after leaving office. So this is where it's
both right, because they're saying this is this is a
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gift to the United States government, not Trump, But then
it doesn't. It's not going to stay with the United
States government after Trump leaves office, which makes it seem
to me that it's kind of it is a gift Trump.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Then I think kind of because the library is still
Isn't it still run by the federal government. Isn't the
Obama and the Clinton and the Bush and are all
of those libraries still run by the federal government.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Let's see, are we back?
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Chat?
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Are we back? I think we appear to be back
when you just check chat make sure we are actually
in fact back back? Question mark? Okay, okay, yes, I'm
mirror my camera. I can indeed mirror your camera.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Okay, poifectfect sorry about that.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Yes, apologies, apologies to everybody.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
We'll just edit all that out out of the audio.
It'll be fine.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Let's see. So I'm going to share a screen again,
and Allison, this guy share boop? But do you boop doop?
Let's see, Senate Democrat leader Chuck Schumer vowed to block
all of Trump's nominees to the Justice Department until the
agency reports what it knows about the Katari offer. Three
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nominees are currently before the Senate quote the Attorney General
must testify before both the House and Senate to explain
why gifting Donald Trump a private jet does not violate
the Emolument's clause of the US Constitution, which requires congressional approval.
He said in a speech. This is interesting. Somebody online
was talking about the Statue of Liberty as like a comparative,
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comparable type gift as far as value from another nation,
Because of course we got that from France, and indeed
it we did. Congress had to approve us accepting the
Statue of Liberty, so that's a precedent for that. That
was not a thing that I knew. I didn't know
that Congress had had to do that. So the Democratic
National Committee flew a plane dragging a Qatar Alago banner
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near Trump's Florida mar A Lago home on Wednesday. The
action angered nearby Trump supporters. Whoever's flying that plane can
kiss my ass, said Stephen Drue, a visitor from North Carolina. Yeh,
as far as I know, Trump's been trying to do
everything to make the country as great as he can,
and I'm fully on board with that, he said Schumer
of New York. I think this is a little bit misguided.
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As far as we can, you can one hundred percent
belief that Trump is on our side without believing that
he is incapable of making a mistake. And I'm not.
That's not to say that he definitely is in taking
this plane. We can continue to debate this because I'm
going to bring up a couple of things on both sides,
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but this idea of like he's on our side, therefore
you can kiss my ass, you don't get to you
don't get to suggest that he's he could be making
a mistake. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Yeah, I mean we should probably be holding the people
on our side to the standard that we want. Yeah,
you know, maybe maybe that's the hot take, Maybe that's
an uncommon belief.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Yeah, I mean, imagine how we would be feeling right
now if Biden was accepting a plane from from from
any country, much much less on the Eastern Islamic Biden got.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Yeah, if Biden got a plane from Ukraine, yeah, like.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
We we would we would be freaking out, we would
be losing our minds, we would be so against this,
And I think that, Yeah, I think it's just concerning.
But it's also concerning that Boeing has taken so long
to make air Force one UH for for the update.
And I think you can make a similar argument that, like,
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is Boeing as a company just as untrustworthy at this
point as Katar? I don't know. I think that that's
a fairy fair concern that any big corporation UH who
has access to something that could hurt Trump is questionable.
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So Schumer of New York says. He said he wants
answers to whether the Katari government would pay for modifications
needed to protect the president and secure communications. I don't
think that's a good solution. Asking Guitar to give us
more money to make the plane more safe. I don't
think that that's I wouldn't want that as the solution.
Give us more Bride money, no, thank you. If the
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US government must bear those costumers has said, why are
American tax payers being asked to spend hundreds of millions
of dollars or more on a plane that will only
be used for a year or two. Again, since when
has the government been concerned about saving money, especially the Democrats.
But this is a good question. If this is if
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this plane is going to be retained by Trump and
not retained by the President's office or whoever owns Air
Force one, I that is a valid question. Why should
American tax payers pay hundreds of millions of dollars for
a plane that Trump's just going to own as his
personal plane basically in a couple of years. I guess
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you could argue you want the continued safety of an
ex president A lot most of them still have security details, yes, I.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Like, to my knowledge, unless they give up their secret
Service detail, they retain that.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
But that's I believe quite a bit cheaper than what
we're talking about. But it could be wrong. Maybe I
don't know. Money, that's complicated anyway, let's see. A White
House spokesperson on Monday said details of the gift were
still being arranged. A new commercial seven four seven eight
costs Trump.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Trump just should just pay for it by himself.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Yeah, yeah, costs approximately four hundred million.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Oh dropping a bucket, billionaire, but but billionaire.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Ethics experts have listed a range of Trump activities that
could point to the president using his office to enrich
himself or his family. She mentioned a Trump Mean coin,
plans for a new Trump hotel in Dubai, and a
new golf course in Qatar. See these are other kind
of adjacent issues in the conversation of is Trump effectively
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accepting bribes from these nations? I think it's a reasonable
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
How fair it is, though, to like when I hear that,
what I want to do is be like, Okay, but
like Nancy Pelosi and AOC everybody who's been in they've
all gained significant amount of wealth from just holding.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Office, I'd like them all to stop.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Like me personally, like I feel this whole what about ism,
Like I want to defend them, but at the same time,
like we should also hold our guys to a pretty
high standard, the same standard we want the other guys.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Held to, right, because if we don't say anything and
just allow Trump to do any and all of this stuff,
and then the next president is a Democrat and does
the exact same things, we have no ground to stand
on to fight those things. The president is already set
in stone, and all there's left to do is escalate.
And that's the problem with the what about is and
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that's the problem with saying, well, they did it, we
get to do it too, is because the next step
is escalation to something worse. Okay. Republican Senator Rand and
Paul of Kentucky said Trump taking the plane would be
a mistake. So Rand Paul thinks it would be a mistake. Quote,
I think it's not worth the appearance of impropriety, he
told Fox News Jesse Waters's primetime program. I wouldn't take it.
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That's a fair as fair an argument as as any.
So that's all of that article. I wanted to pull
up this Politico article on the same topic, but going
a little bit different direction, talking about the Katari lobby. Okay,
so this is also from yesterday, so it's part of
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the same conversation. Who's on Katar's payroll? White House Press
Secretary Carolyn Levitt said this week there's quote absolutely nothing
Katar might be expecting in return for the four hundred
million dollar luxury jet. It's poised to gift President Donald
Trump to use as Air Force one and then be
transferred to his presidential library once he leaves office. But Qatar,
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where the president touchdown today has plenty at stake in
Trump's presidency. That's especially true after his first term in office,
when Trump declined to intervene in a diplomatic blockade against
Qatar led by regional rifles, Saudi Arabia and the United
Arab Emirates. Doha has also endured years of attacks from
conservatives for serving as the home base of Hamas's political
leadership amid the war between Israel and Gaza. The Qatari
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government has built uple.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Hot Hot Take Hot Take niw Qatar, New Qatar. I
just kid, there's so much oil there.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Yeah, when don't want to ruin it. The Guitari government
has built up an army of lobbyists and pr gurus
in the US in recent years in an effort to
turn its reputation around. That group once even included Attorney
General Pam Bondi, who signed off on the legality of
Trump except in the plane, figgering scrutiny from Congressional Democrats.
It's fair that there's some eyebrows raised about that seems
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like a conflict conflict address. Doha has further supplemented its
influence operation in recent months with allies of the president.
According to a PI analysis of DJ filings, the Katari
government currently has about three dozen lobbying and pr forums
on its payroll, including Mercury Public Affairs, the former K
Street home of White House Chief of Staff Suzie Wiles,
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though Wiles herself never lobbied for Qatar. There are several
former members of Congress on Qatar's roster of lobbyists to
including Republican Tom Davis who's now at Holland and Knight,
and Democrat Jim Moran, who now runs his own lobbying firm.
Other top K Street shops working for Qatar include BGR
Group Invenable. Over the past year, Qatar has also paid
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GOP strategist Garrett Ventry more than five hundred thousand dollars
for work that has included highlighting Doha's role as the
chief mediator of c fires and hostage releases between Israel
and Hamas. According to DOJ filings, in March, the Katari
embassy inked a deal with Cornerstone Government Affairs. The team
of lobbyists working on the account includes David Planning, a
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former special assistant to Trump, and Chris Hodgson, a former
aid to former Vices. So many formers former Vice President
Mike Pence and House Majority le versus Steve Scalise.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
In that everybody has a title, everybody's important, everybody.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
The following month, the embassy hired a firm founded by
former New York Police Chief Bernard Carrick, a Trump ally
whom Trump pardoned at the end of his first term.
The year long contract is worth nearly one hundred million,
according to a copy file with the Justice Department, and
stipulates that Karric quote shall be personally and substantially engaged
in performance of the services. Trump announced plans to stop
and get Qatar during his Middle East swing. Weeks later. Okay,
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that's it for that one.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Uh. I mean, I mean like Trump's already been and
if it did so much from this presidency, like he's
going to turn all of Gaza, all all Palestine from
the river to the seat into apartment complexes. I mean,
what's one plane.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
I want to show you the street from Jarvis because
it's so funny. He said it would be funny if
like the CIA had briefed Trump on Qatar's plans for
another nine to eleven, but Trump was only sort of
paying attention and thought they were giving him a jet
for his birthday. Quote, Sir NSA has confirmed the plane
for Qatar is on its way to Washington, now DC.
But that's where I live. Yes, sir, we believe that
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you are at the target of this attack. So these
guys think they're going to surprise me with a jet, well,
I mean they intend to use it as a weapon,
to a jet for me. Wow, wow, No, sir, they
aren't going to give it to you. This is a
terrorist cat John Carl on the phone, tell them I'm
getting a free jet. Just funny, just funny. But the
point being made here underneath the joke is that why
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in Okay, obviously we think nine to elevel was inside well,
I think nine eleven was inside job. John. You're kind
of on the fence, aren't you.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
There's a lot of suspicious things around.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
A lot of suspicious things.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Okay, But like the whole couple of days prior Pentagon
saying that they don't know where a lot of allocated
money went the ties to.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Yeah, so let's just pretend for seven com down.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
I'm overdosed. I need dark hand straight out.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
Where was I Let's just pretend we believe the established
narrative for a second. Because that's at least what our
government is pretending it believes, right, and the established narrative
is that Islamic terrorists flu planes. Islamic terrorists from the
Middle East flew planes into the towers. So it just
seems a little too on the nose for me personally
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that an Islamic state, their their official religion is is
Sunni Sunni Islam, that they would be giving us an
airplane for our our president to fly around it. It
just kind of feels like something that on its face,
we should just not be accepting. Like, no, we we
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know what Islam, what what the Islamic religion thinks of
the United States, And even if a certain country has good,
good relations with us, it just seems like a plane
for our president does not a thing we should be accepting.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
But I could only really picture us accepting a plane
from from one of like our very long term allies,
from like Canada or England or France, but not and.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
We'd still be suspicious of it. We'd still need to.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Yeah, but we wouldn't be like, oh, we were just
in the Middle East ten years ago.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
Yeah, yeah, we're over there.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
We're going to take bribes.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
Now there are memories that are much longer.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
We're still engaged in the war on terrorism, like that's
it's not ended. It's been ongoing for twenty four years,
so twenty three and a half. Somewhere around there, twenty
three and a half.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
We'll say several people, myself included, made the Trojan horse
comparison of like, let's let us please look the gift
horse in the mouth. We should definitely be looking the
gift horse in the mouth, the Trojan plane. It's us
all around. It just feels like the kind of thing
you see it happen in a movie, you read about
it in a book, and you're like, no, no, no, no,
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do it because you kind of know how it's going
to go. So it just feels like something where wisdom
would say, no, don't do it.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
Okay, Gypsy Princess in Chat said, does Qatar even manufactured jets?
That's a question.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
Shouldn't say it was a ques No, So, Gypsy, you
are correct. Boeing made this plane. So Boeing made the
plane for the royal family, and now the royal family
is done with it and they're donating it to trouble.
So it's it's it's a plane that's been around the
block a little bit. I don't know how old. I
don't think it's very old.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
But there is a airline called Qatar Airways.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Yes, that's the airline that is buying all those Boeings
that we that was in the article.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Uh okay, okay, yes, are these I was only kind
of paying attention. Uh, the same Boeing airplanes that were
like having problems.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
Yes, well I mean the exact same ones. Okay, yes,
but yes, Qatar is buying up old crap ton of Boeing.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
We need to do a Boeing whistleblower episode.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
We should do a Boweing whistle blower episode. We've talked
about it a little bit. On on hint. Yeah, I'm
still allowed to call the past episodes of unh on hint.
We don't have to like re have to memory hole
the title.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
They gifted him a used plane. He should be offended.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
Yeah, he should be offended. But planes are a little
bit weird, I guess. Okay, I appreciated. I appreciate PDB
because I often disagree with him about certain things, but
the way that he presents his arguments is compelling, and
so it gives me something to think about. So this
is kind of his counter argument here. Qatar didn't give
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Trump a plane. They offered a Boeing seven four seven eight,
once used by their royal family to the United States government,
not to Trump personally. Air Force one is a military
aircraft built by Boeing. In twenty eighteen, Trump cut a
fixed price deal for two new jets. They're still not finished.
That's the real story, a slap at Boeing, which Trump
has publicly clashed with before. Our current Air Force one
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is forty years old, lax modern tech, and costs a
four to maintain. Qatar's move fills the gap not as
a gift to Trump, but as a strategic play with
a country that spends billions on US defense contracts and
hosts key military bases in the Middle East. So I
guess this kind of fills in that question mark of
why the plane will be going to Trump afterward is
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that it's the new Air Force ones are going to
be completed, and it's just filling that gap of a
couple of years so that they wouldn't even need it anymore.
So that's there, And I think you could probably make
the argument, like Trump, if you want to risk your
life in this Katari plane. Fine, but it's not going
to be like the plane that the government uses forever.
This is just going to be the one that you use.
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And his point is valid that it's they ordered the
planes in twenty eighteen and it's twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
Uh quick, math, what that's like seven years?
Speaker 1 (48:51):
Yeah, I've yeah, yeah, that's so long to wait for
planes when you're the freaking government, and.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
Like, not just when you're the government, when you're the
freaking president. Yeah, the president didn't. Yeah, yeah, it's it's wild. Yeah,
it's so unprecedented. I think this is a really fair argument.
Counter argument here was air Force one has some seriously
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advanced tech that no other plane in the world has
built to keep the president safe in the worst case scenario.
It makes me wonder why this isn't more of a
safety concern and if the DoD will be adding this
kind of tech to the guitar plane. I wonder how
difficult it would be to just transfer it.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
Yeah. So p says it's been here in America since
April third, So this Qatari aircraft has been here since
April third. Now the aircraft is undergoing modifications by L
three Harris Technologies, a US defense contractor to meet the
requirements for potential use as a temporary air force one.
Let's see, I don't know about that one, Pete. Would
you trust a gift from qataris like he said, you
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accept it and say thank you, but I have my reservations,
he says. It's been in San Antonio, Texas for weeks now,
being checked out and worked on by defense contractor. Can
meet the needs of the country. It's built by Boeing,
who is working on ours. Would I take it? I
don't know enough about the behind the scenes to know
exactly by taking it who this upsets and what strategy
Trump is playing. And this is also a fair Do
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I think Trump's always playing for d chess? No, but
there's probably some politics going on behind those scenes here. Okay,
let's see I think.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
That.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
Okay, I had only one other related thing I wanted
to show you. This was not Katar, but this was
circulating today and I don't know what to think of it,
so I'll just show it to you, guys. But this
is the reception Trump got when he arrived in the UAE.
And keep in mind this is this is in an
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Islamic nation where women are supposed to be covering their
heads and they're not supposed to be showing their hair.
So here you guys can see this right.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
Yeah, I don't know if I'll be able to hear it.
Speaker 1 (51:07):
There's there's no need fair enough, Am I comfortable? Okay?
Speaker 2 (51:26):
Are they? Are they saying, hey, mister President Donald Trump,
we're available for for you? That's the first thing I
think of.
Speaker 1 (51:37):
It feels pretty sexual, yes.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
With the additional context of their heads are not covered
and their hair is out. Yeah, and they're waving their
hair all in head like all around.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
It was. There's no conspiracy to this. This is just uncomfortable.
It's just we're just talking about like Islamic states and
how they relate to it.
Speaker 2 (51:58):
Hey, oh goodness, what's the I don't know. I can't
think of her right now. Her name the Hey, mister
president with jfk our Happy birthday, mister President Marilyn. Yeah.
It almost reminds me of that, like, hey, mister president,
I want you to grab me.
Speaker 1 (52:20):
Yeah, yeah, it's here. Let me show it one more time.
Speaker 2 (52:24):
And what Donald Trump grabbed me by the art, grabbed
me by the art by Mount Ararat.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
Stop it, stop it what I noticed that the man
walking next to Trump. I don't know if he's the
head was down.
Speaker 2 (52:42):
Was it not?
Speaker 1 (52:44):
To me? I just think he's smirking.
Speaker 2 (52:55):
Maybe not.
Speaker 1 (52:57):
Maybe I thought he kind of like dipped his head
down because he was trying to hide like a smirk.
I don't know. I don't know. I could be reading
it wrong, but it felt to me like he is
key my read of it, and maybe this is just
not fair, but I felt like his read of it
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as an Islamic man was that they had just experienced
a very sexual thing and that's why he's like hiding
this smile or smirk. I don't know, That's just how
I read it. Okay, let's move on to our title.
Our title thing that I wanted to talk about, which
is this beast kingdom idea. This is Donnie Donnie darkened.
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Why does it always always let's see hang on my Okay,
there we go, Donnie discerned, Donnie darkened. Sometimes I read
his stuff and I'm like, that is way too unhid,
that's way too out there. I don't agree. He kind
of goes on this whole like Trump is the antichor thing,
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and everybody knows the anti crisis supposed to be a
hot Russian So I'm just kidding, but I grew up
on left Behind.
Speaker 2 (54:11):
Uh No, it's it's the president of Ukraine was the link.
Just kidding. The Antichrist is gonna come from Switzerland, but.
Speaker 1 (54:21):
Every once in a while, I or increasingly often Switzerland.
Speaker 2 (54:25):
Yeah, yeah, well that's what we've got to do is Switzerland,
specifically Switzerland episode as well. We have like six months
of content planned out and a lot of it loosely
planned out. A lot of it is the stuff that
you guys have thrown into discord, and we're very excited.
I don't think Switzerland was something that you guys suggested,
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but I do know that if it went and if
you guys throw suggestions in there, we look at it
and if we think there's enough there, we we throw
it in our plan.
Speaker 1 (54:58):
Yeah. Okay, so I take things from Donnie with a
little bit of grain of salt, but this one was
like what what? Okay, let's see, he said. Christian nationalism
sounds like it's about restoring faith and order, but under
the surface, its spiritual engine isn't biblical. It's esoteric, aryan myth.
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The deeper you go into these circles. The more you
start hearing about blood, soil, destiny, and the divine Ariyan,
the language shifts from repentance and humility to strength, ancestry,
and glory. And at the center of it is a
vision of white European civilization as sacred not because of Christ,
but because of racial or mythic identity. I will say
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this about Donnie, even when I don't agree with him,
it seems really clear that he loves Jesus, that he's
coming from a really strong faith, and that these are
his kind of like religious conspiracy theories, if you will,
And I really appreciate his point of view. So he says,
this is where the crossover happens. The more Christian nationalism,
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the more it blends with anti Jewish conspiracy, old pagan symbolism,
and a belief that the Jews are the enemies of
God's true people. But here's the truth. The Bible says
Jesus was Jewish, the Apostles were Jewish, the Gospel came
through Israel, and Christ will return to reign from Jerusalem.
So where do you think this movement is going. It's
heading straight toward Armageddon, where the nations gather against Jerusalem,
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thinking they're fighting evil when they're actually rebelling against God himself.
That's why their profile pictures are all geared in crusader
armor and ready to wage a misguided holy war. That's
the trap. They think they're restoring righteousness, but they're preparing
the world to resist the real king when he returns.
Christian nationalism isn't the solution, it's the set up for
the beast kingdom. Jesus warned about this exact deception. The
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time is coming when anyone who kills you will think
they are offering a service to God John sixteen to two.
That was specifically to a Jewish audience. Let that sink in.
There will be a movement religious, confident and convinced it's righteous,
that persecutes true believers and fights against God, all while
believing it's doing his will. It's not just about ancient
Rome or Islam. That's about a rising false kingdom, one
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that talks about Jesus but hates his people, hates the Cross,
and ultimately turns on Jerusalem itself. And Jesus said it
with his own mouth. They'll think they're serving God, but
they'll be doing the work of the enemy. That's the
spirit behind what we're seeing now. It's not revival, it's
rehearsal for war against the Lamb. This is not the
entirety of it. This is just a setup, guys. Okay,
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let's see.
Speaker 2 (57:31):
So there's more.
Speaker 1 (57:32):
Okay, there's more, there's more. Okay. So somebody commented on
that post Nazi Germany was a test run. Next it
will be global. He said, exactly. It was a dress
rehearsal foreshadowing what's coming. We're living in spiritual Weimar again,
moral collapse, leftist chaos, and a growing rage against what
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they call submittic corruption. This time, the backlash won't just
be national, it'll be global. A new beet system is rising,
and it will fit what Hitler only began, a final
war to cleanse the world of Yahweh, his covenant, and
his people. What they don't realize is God's using all
of it to bring about the final showdown at Jerusalem.
Here's another Okay, this is I'm gonna read this reply first.
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So this is again to the same or applied to
the same tweet. Bye, Jeremy Smith. That's what's sort of
crazy about this. It's literally the only way you would
ever see a coalition formed of Christians, Muslims, and the
crazy part of the left. I always thought it was
some form of world government, but couldn't imagine how you
could use one lie to unite these factions with very
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different world views. Turns out World War II already gave
us the answer, and it should have been obvious. Satan
knows the key to Christ's return is Sorry, I don't
want to miss the sense. Satan knows the key to
Christ's return and his end is the Jewish people repenting.
No Jewish people, no trigger for the end. And this
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is what Donnie said. This guy absolutely nailed it. The
only thing that he could unite Christian nationalists, Muslims and
the radical left is a common enemy in World War
two already gave the blueprint. Blame the Jews. What none
of them realized is that Satan's not just targeting Jews
out of hatred. He's trying to stop prophecy. Yeah, which
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Satan has done this many times. He's tried to stop
prophecy through killing the babies.
Speaker 2 (59:24):
I mean, in the last from Jeremy, what you're at,
That's exactly what I was. What I thought, what came
to mind is is in his description of what they're
doing is they're exactly that they're trying to stop prophecy.
Speaker 1 (59:38):
We saw this when when Herod killed all the baby
boys and trying to kill Jesus, but of course God
rescued Jesus out of that. But this is not the
first time Satan has known about the prophecies and tried
to stop them through some means. Christ returns when a
remnant of Israel repents and calls on him Matthew twenty
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three thirty nine or I twelve ten also a lot
in revelation. So no Jews, no repentance, no repentance, no return.
It's not just hatred, it's strategic. And most people helping
this coalition don't even see they're playing their part in it,
so that the whole thing kind of.
Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Just it's wild to me that they believe very deeply
that they're able to undo a prophecy.
Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
The same things He can stop a prophecy. Yeah, yeah,
so I had I've definitely said many times that I
think that the hatred of Jesus is demonic, that this
shift in our in our landscape, especially online, toward hatred
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of Jesus is demonic. But I hadn't seen what the
actual play was, but it's true. The one hundred and
forty four thousand witnesses that rise up at the beginning
of Revelation are all clearly, like, very explicitly in Revelation,
not just Jews, but virgin jewish Men, virgin young and
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Jewish Men who are like a special kind of apostle.
Basically that one and four thousand who go throughout the
world preaching Jesus, preaching Jesus, that that Israel by and
large turns back to Jesus, and that Babylon. I think
we have a lot we spend a lot of time
trying to figure out what Babylon is, what Babylon stands for.
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But Babel, Babylon was the juxtaposition to Jerusalem. It was
like a tale of two cities. One city follows God
in one city is set up against Jerusalem, set up
against God and worships the false gods. And it seems
that the Babylon Kingdom, the Babylon is the beast kingdom.
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It's it's not necessarily something that exists, yet it's it's
the name of the kingdom that sets itself up against
Jerusalem and sets itself up against God. That's what our
pastor preached, at least we've been going through revelation recently,
and that's that's what he preached. And there's a good
argument to be made that the capital of Babylon will
be in Jerusalem, that it'll be kind of like this
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merged thing where the Antichrist sets himself up as Messiah
and the Temple, and that Jerusalem is kind of being
fought over by the people who serve God and people
who serve Satan.
Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
Yeah, I guess not extremely important, but something that came
to mind as we were talking about what it was,
six thousand virgin men. They it says that they will
be like perfect or something similar. It says maybe like
they'll be perfect in comparison to everybody else. And not
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to say like in comparison to everybody else. That's not
that they're perfect. That it's just that they're ah they
like repent to God for their sins and like they
live as holy of a life as as they can
and not just dwelling with all of the sin and
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despair that all of the other all the other people
at the times times are going to be We're you guys,
you guys know you guys all know this. We are
go for it.
Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
Oh no, finish your sentence.
Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
We are Protestants and we fall underneath the pre trib
so we suspect, we highly suspect that uh we won't
be here uh for for this and any of the people,
uh the Christian Nationals who who are on this crusade
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against the Jews for the zillionth time. There's been so
many crusades against the gainst the Jews. If they're still here,
then you know what they weren't. M M.
Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
It's funny, says Do you guys still feel like the
Second Coming could happen in our lifetimes or do you
think it will be in future generations? I think those
are a really solid chance. It's it's in the next
ten twenty years.
Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
It wouldn't be in our lifetime, so because we'd be dead,
well well not dead, just here hah.
Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
We would be raptured, well, she said, the Second Coming,
So sure, yeah, raptured while still living.
Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
And Sator says, no one knows the day or hour, bro,
no one, no one.
Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
But what about the month? What about the year?
Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
I'm just kidding Jesus, is Second Coming is going to
be some time between now and infinity.
Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
Oh John knows the month and the year. It's kidding.
Swim says, why do people hate juice so much? I
don't know, maybe they're jealous.
Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
So so sad, not like not trying to like like
put you down. Sure, nobody's going to know the exact moment,
but we can like make somewhat educated guesses that, like, yeah,
we highly suspect that. Like we're looking around and we're
seeing some of the signs for the end times coming up,
Like we're seeing the Nile River starting to dry up
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in several spots, and that's one of the things.
Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
And how do you prates, Well, I think it's both.
Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
It's okay, all like the earthquakes and all the things
that are Yeah, like we're looking around, we're seeing signs,
and not necessarily that that means that it'll be within
the next ten twenty years, but we're seeing signs and
so at least to some extent in the length of eternity,
it's gonna be pretty soon.
Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
Melody says, we don't know the day or the hour,
but God definitely has told us the season. I think
that's really the way that's it perfect and I kind
of think Sator might have been joking anyway, but true
truth card to tell say, there's always always a little
bit joking, I think. Okay, so this is Revelation seven,
so I'll just kind of cite our sources here for
this whole one hundred and forty four thousand. So this
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is after the four horsemen of the apocalypse have been unleashed.
Says after this, I saw four angels standing at the
four corners of the Earth, holding back the four winds
of the Earth, that no wind might blow on earth
or sea, or against any tree. Then I saw another angel.
It's like everything holds its breath, The whole world holds
their breath for this. Then I saw another angel ascending
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from the rising of the sun with the seal of
the Living God. And he called the lad voice to
the four angels who have been given power to harm
Earth and sea, saying, do not harm the earth or
the sea, or the trees until we have sealed the
servants of our God on their foreheads. And I heard
the number of the sealed, one hundred forty four thousand
sealed from every tribe of the sons of Israel, twelve
thousand from Judah from Reuben gad Astron of Italian Manassa
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same and Levi is the car's ambulance Joseph and Benjamin.
Let's see, I was wrong.
Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
It's one hundred and forty four thousand, not six.
Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
Oh yeah, my bad. Let's see. Maybe I was trying
to cite my source and then I don't. Okay. Our
pastor definitely preached on this, and he definitely said which
verse it was versus.
Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
It was that if you hit like control fined control
f and you type in like perfect.
Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
Perfect, nothing, nothing. Okay, we'll apologies.
Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
Hopefully we've given you enough to do Google search.
Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
Okay, so maybe John can find it. Otherwise we are
we are over time. I'm sorry that I tried to
try to show you the verses we were taking that from.
I paid attention in church, but not enough apparently, So
fourteen four maybe Revelation fourteen four. I'll try it. Oh ah, okay,
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this is it. Good job, Good job John. Okay, let's
see Revelation fourteen. I'm gonna start the first one. Then
I looked and behold on Mount Zion. Let's see what's
the context. Hang on, hang on hand. It's talking about
the beast. Okay, Okay. Then I looked to behold on
Mount Zion stood the Lamb and with him one hundred
forty four thousand, who had his name and his father's
name written on their foreheads. And I heard a voice
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from heaven, like the roar of many waters, and like
the sound of loud thunder. The voice I heard was
like the sound of harpists playing on their harps, and
they were singing a new song before the Throne, in
before the four living creatures, and before the elders. No
one could learn that song except one hundred forty four thousand,
who had been redeemed from the earth. It is these
who have not defiled themselves with women, for they are virgins.
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It is these who follow the Lamb wherever he goes.
These have been redeemed from mankind as first fruits for
God and the Lamb. And in their mouth no lie
was found, for they are blameless. That's what the word
you really think was blameless. That's the same word used
to describe Noah, so that he was blameless in his generation.
And for those of you who have been following along
in our Exodus study, I think that first fruits concept
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may have come up or might be coming up soon.
We've recorded a couple more episodes than you've seen, so
it might be coming up soon. So anyway, that's uh.
I think that's everything we had for tonight, John, Do
you have any closing thoughts?
Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
What? What can I say that would require a narcan? Uh?
Nine to eleven may have been in such job where
you going like I'm putting chemicals in the water because
they turn the friggin frogs day That all right, It's
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it's super suss that Donald Trump accepted a plane from
a foreign government. I don't I don't know. I don't
know what you want me to say. It's been pretty fun, John,
now you okays, been awesome hanging out with you guys.
Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
Will you pray for us and pray for Chat as
we say goodbye.
Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
Dear Heavenly Father, thank you for for bringing us all
together here tonight. Thank you that we have this this
space where we can hang out and chat and we
can kind of discern what's going on uh in in
the world, in the news, and uh yeah, I'll help
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us with our with our discernment, help us with our
our relationship with you, help us to grow closer to you. Uh,
and really give give us a heart for you where
we are not like the Pharaoh, where our hearts are
getting turned hard at all. Please help us just have
a super soft heart for you. Please help us to
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have a good week. Please blessed Chat and Abby and
Liz and and maybe me too.
Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
Yeah amen, Amen, all right, good night everyone, love you
got to find all right,