Are We Still Friends?! Where We’ve Been? Breakups, Burnout & Summer plans – Ep 21 - AM I TOO LOUD?! with The Odditty

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
welcome to am I too loud?
The podcast guys welcome.
Welcome to am I too loud?
The fucking podcast with sophie, aka the motherfucking oddity.
I curse a lot.
I feel like we're gonna have tobleep half of that intro out.
Welcome to season two of my tolove the y'all.
I can't believe we're finallyback again.

(00:27):
This is my episode 21 of Am IToo Loud?
My baby and we took a break andnow we're back.
Tell a friend to tell a friend.
Tell the odd fam to report in.
Let me know in the comments ifyou guys are excited because I'm
excited to be back.
I am trying really hard not toscream and yell because we got a
new mic for the podcast andit's very delicate.
If not, I would be screaming myfudging lungs out and throwing

(00:50):
this mic away because I can'tbelieve we're finally back.
I did not think we're going tobe back this soon.
I thought we're generally goingto be back sometime in the fall
.
I really was like maybe we'rejust going to scrap the podcast
anyways.
And then I just woke up one dayand I was like why the fudge
did I stop this in the firstplace?
We're gonna get into all ofthat, but first, because I know
you guys are gonna ask yes, he'shere, he's everyone's favorite.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
My favorite is here, mr kovu you know what you're
waiting to hear.
A name I was like is the doghere doll is here.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Hello, really, season two, and that's how you're
gonna start, really no, hello.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Why are you trying to be cool?
I'm not trying to be cool.
This is my personality,literally practice, we practice
what?

Speaker 1 (01:35):
that's a lie.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
That's not your personality what do you think my
personality is?

Speaker 1 (01:38):
don't know your personality, is not that?
You literally almost threw meon the floor today?
You?
Know the difference you alsopunched my new piercing I kicked
, I got a piercing.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Guys, you kicked me the and you kicked me the lip
yeah, so you're not.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Hello who you trying to be sexy for weird, there's so
much to unpack because Iremember when the team was like
donald's gonna, there's gonna bea reel of sophie being bullied
donald for the entire, and wegot off to a new start like
because't Because you weretalking into, you know what's
happening right now.
What.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
I can hear myself and I sound so good.
I don't know like Guys.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
We got a new mic and we got a new setup.
And then Donald is reallyexcited about the setup.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Clearly, I sound so good.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
You sound ridiculous.
I'm going to keep you as aproducer.
You're not gonna talk, you'reone of my personalities, and now
my personality is gonna take itthe vaccine I don't think it
was smart for you to give methis, because I want to throw it
at you because it's flexiblebut this is so cool though it is
.
It is.
I'm really excited.
I'm glad we're back.

(02:35):
Um, let's talk about why.
Why do you think we stoppedseason one?
Be very honest.
This is your time to be honestwith the cameras, I think I
think it's because we're we gotbored, I got bored.
You did not get bored.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Why are you?

Speaker 1 (02:54):
trying to be fake deep.
That's not true.
No, no, no when I say bored,it's like.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
In fact, we're the type of people like If we love
routines right.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
And.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
I feel like we created this routine uh-huh and
we fell out of love with theroutine I don't think that's
true.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Maybe you need to talk for yourself, because this
is news for me.
Just ask me.
Yeah, I know, but now I'mshocked because we've never
discussed this.
Why would you say we?
You got bored.
I don't want to talk from yourperspective oh, really, pause,
pause.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
I'm not.
When I say bored, I don't meanbored like oh, it wasn't fun,
but it became a routine, and Ithink you're very good at
looking at a situation,especially when we do something
together from outside and belike oh, something wasn't
working exactly but I wouldn'tsay it was boredom.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
I would say that I think you just you thought we
had hit the rhythm when weweren't even close to it.
Yes, I think that's what it is.
So I wouldn't say it'snecessarily boredom, but, like,
I think we got.
So, yeah, I think we got to apoint where.
So, guys, here's the thing I'vebeen thinking about my too loud
since like four years now.
I'm like everybody who knew meknew I had wanted a podcast.
That name was already there.

(03:55):
I just really wanted to starttalking, but I would always find
an excuse to not do it.
And so finally last year I waslike you know what?
I, I have the funds for this.
Now I need to just go ahead andstart my podcast.
And I did, and it was so wellreceived, yeah.
But as time went on, we startedlooking at everybody else and
seeing what they were doing.
Like I would compare myself to,like shits and gigs.

(04:15):
The Uncaught podcast, madamJoyce.
Yeah, those are my babies.
Those are the three that I couldthink of, and Anna Chamber, the
three that I could think ofagain anna anna chamberlain is
crazy.
Emma chamberlain, alex earlI'll compare myself to all these
people and like I'll be like,why are we not getting these
numbers?
And it's because we're not thesame you know I mean like and
all these people are like.
I'm fans of right, but I just Iwill always start comparing
myself, which is a goodconversation to have down the

(04:37):
line about comparison and thethief of joy, but I would
compare myself a lot to thesepeople and what I started doing
was when we got to the pointwhere we were we're 20 episodes
in we still hadn't hit that likebuzz, like that Like oh, people
are tuned in, waiting for thepodcast, people are clamoring
for it.
Sometimes we're doing well onsocial media, sometimes we

(04:58):
weren't, and we definitely,because I the podcast is not the
only thing I do.
It was even harder for us tofind the passion for it, and I
think for me too maybe a littlebit misguided of me, but I
really was so confident thatonce I started it, brands and
companies would see how good Iwas at podcasting and want to
take over the production of it.

(05:18):
So, if you don't know,minds2loud is solely funded by
me.
I pay for everything.
This is my baby Cameraequipment to a lot is solely
funded by me.
Um, I pay for everything.
This is my baby um, cameraequipment, production, all that
stuff, and so like it's harderfor me to to like justify
spending ten thousand dollars,eight thousand dollars a month
on a podcast that I'm not seeingany results from, and I know my

(05:39):
team told me this every timethat I didn't have to spend that
much money for qualityproduction.
But if anyone knows me, I'mfirst of all, I'm Nigerian, so
already that means I need to beperfect, right?
Um, I'm a cancer.
Um, I am a perfectionistanyways.
So for me, I really just wantedit to be the best of the best.
If I was going to spend fouryears dreaming of this, those

(06:00):
four, after those four years, itneeded to be the best that I'd
ever done.
And I came out of the gateswinging.
I mean, I was fucking.
I need to stop cursing.
I was in a podcast, on thefucking balcony you know, what I
mean, like I had this big ideathat I would be the next stephen
colbert and john stewart andtrevor noah and stuff what you
will.
I know I will, but like I thinkI I tend to think it would

(06:22):
happen so soon, and so all thismoney is going into this podcast
.
All this conversation ishappening with me and Donald and
we're still like we're goingand we're growing, but
everything else is happening atthe same time.
So I have Instagram, I havebrand deals, I have TikTok, I
have my YouTube vlog channel.
I have all these things.
So the podcast ended up beingmy priority, but was a priority
that was not making me any moneyand what was the priority?

(06:46):
So that was not making me anymoney.
And so I remember when I wouldhave meetings with my team.
They're like you can't justrecord a podcast, Like you need
to do more ideas for Instagram,for TikTok, Cause that's where
the brand deals and the moneycomes in.
And then I was and this is whereI'll call you out a bit and I
don't think Donald knows thisand I think I was depending on
each other.
So if one person is dying likeyou're, dying too Like we're not

(07:09):
necessarily like constantly.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
I'll say yes but I'll say no Because, like a lot of
things you're saying sometimes,like I feel like you have
conversations with me without mebeing there, right?

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Oh, interesting.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Because some of these things are very new to me.
Yeah, right, like what you'retalking about.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
You've never heard of this.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Because I'll always ask you like, even like going in
, I'll be like because I'mtrying to check right, it's like
, oh, how you feeling, how youfeeling, and like you're like,
oh, you're excited it's goingyeah.
And I think it's also part,like we've only known each other
for two years yeah, so there'sa long time and you, pretty much
like before you, brought me on.

(07:42):
You made a lot of moves.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
I already knew exactly what I wanted, exactly.
So those things were happening.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
So at the same time, it's like I'm also like I can't
come out out of the gate and belike oh, like I don't know if X,
y and Z is going to work.
So the last thing I want to dois like tell you but then we've
talked about me leaning on yourexpertise.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
More so here teased, more so.
Here's the thing about donaldguys he hesitates a lot and
you're which is crazy, because Iwouldn't necessarily say you're
scared of taking risks, but youare like you kind of like
stability and you like knowingthe outcome, and I think
something about social media andcontent creation is like you
can never guess the outcome ofthis shit like you know, you
can't fucking know if thisrandom video you shoot today is
going to be the viral videothat's going to change your

(08:23):
fucking life.
Like it can take this year, itcan take two days, it can take
20 years.
You never know.
Anyone who's been successfulwill tell you they don't know.
Like if they knew they boughtthe success.
Like no one who's truly donesomething and done something
well, knew when that moment wasfor them.
They just simply did it likequinta wouldn't have done bus
fee, thinking she was going toend up doing apple elementary

(08:44):
and having it be the success itis.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
You know what I mean.
You never know which particularthing too, exactly.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
So I think for us going into this, I generally
wanted more of like you pushingyour expertise and stuff, and I
think we would say like, oh, Iwant you to tell me more.
But I also say that with theasterisk of I don't listen,
right, right, like I am a verystubborn person and I like to do
exactly what I want, because inmy head I've thought things

(09:11):
through so much that anythingyou're going to come say to me,
I probably have said it in myhead to myself and I've thought
about the different outcome.
So I think towards the end ofthe podcast, I've said you for
season one.
We were both burnt out, forsure, but we're also both like
looking at each other likewhat's next right and I think
for me, I was getting drawn awayfrom the podcast by my team,

(09:32):
not in a bad way, but more inlike a this thing isn't making
money yet downsize.
Don't do all this and like beupset that's not working out and
do focus on other things.
So I spent the last what twomonths traveling like I can't
imagine having the podcast.
Maybe I could, but I don't thinkI was going to be able to do it
.
Well, can't imagine having thepodcast happening at the same
time doing all the travels I'vebeen doing and making the moves

(09:55):
that I've been making.
However, also, it was a mindsetthing.
I think my mindset has shiftednow.
Plus, I realized I have so muchto learn because as we went,
where you smiling?

Speaker 2 (10:05):
because it's a lot of things.
Yeah, right, like because I'dalso didn't know you were
traveling, you had all that solike okay, so also let's talk
about it without interruptingafter the traveling yeah, I was
like ah, it makes sense why youmade this decision.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah, there's no way I tell donald this all the time
that my podcast life with donaldis so separate from my work
life like I'm now slowlybringing you into like the full
team, but my team is so they'reall so spread out and I'm
working now and bringingeveryone together, so everybody
sort of like knows whereeveryone's role is and, for

(10:38):
example, like I'll be having aconversation about the podcast
with donald and then my team andI were having something else
about, like instagram and tiktok, but they don't feed into each
other.
There's two very differententities, which is not good
because at the end of the day,like I am one person, so even
when I was planning all thesethings, don't didn't know
anything was happening.
And then I'll be like I can'tdo, and he'll be looking at me
like why?
Like no, why can't you do this?
I'm like bro, because I have 50deliverables you just just like

(11:01):
I was so overwhelmed and I wasso exhausted.
I kept looking at my bankaccount and I kept looking at
the numbers and I kept lookingat like listening to my team.
I was just like I am, soexhausted yeah and I just wish a
production company would takethis off my hands.
But also now that I watch ourold episodes back when we're on
the break, I was like we have somuch to learn.
Yeah, like I think madam joycehas posted over 200 200 episodes

(11:25):
like these podcasts.
I'm comparing myself to haveposted so many episodes.
They've been learning as theyhave.
They've been I can't speak.
They've been learning as theyhave been growing and I think I
was sort of like jumping the gunin what I thought I should be
or where I thought I should beat 21 episodes because this is
episode 21 so, even looking atour episode, like, oh, we have

(11:45):
so much more to learn and wehave so much space to grow with
the podcast that it doesn't haveto be perfect.
And that was the whole point ofam I too loud?
Right?
It's supposed to be like thespace for everyone who's
listening and watching.
To excuse me, I just belched.
It's supposed to be a space forall of us to just like, simply
enjoy life and not be perfect.
Yeah, so this season two issimply us existing as sophie and

(12:11):
donald, or as the oddity anddonald, or as the oddity and a
random creative.
See what I did there.
We're like, we're going to beexploring so many nuances to
like our opinions, our thoughts,our experiences, reacting to a
lot of your dilemmas, talkingabout trending topics, just
checking in with each otherevery single week about our
loudest, boldest, craziestopinions, and we'll just be

(12:34):
chit-chatting.
I think this is what I want thatthis podcast to be, and I could
.
I could see that now because Iwent out.
I think over the past couple ofweeks I've been going out more.
Yeah, I've met.
They don't say they know mefrom TikTok.
They're telling me oh, my God,I love you and don't know your
podcast.
What yeah On my podcast.
Like you guys know about thepodcast, I didn't know anyone

(12:55):
listened, but people are outthere listening.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
People for me with business, like I would have
clients come to the call and belike, oh, where did you find me?
And be like, oh, the podcast.
I'm like, what do you mean?
What do you?

Speaker 1 (13:08):
mean the podcast putting that shit.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
I had a friend who was like, oh, like, she listens
to this podcast called am I tooloud?
And she's like she heard mylike, my voice.
And she's like, oh, my god, shedidn't know, like the donald in
the podcast with me don't.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
It is guys?
No, you're really special,donald, so thank you for being a
part of my podcast.
Damn, do you guys hear that?

Speaker 2 (13:26):
clip this, clip it, cut it because I want to take
this.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Can you put this part at the end of me cursing him
out every five seconds?
No, but, but you said somethingto do that I want people to
hear okay when I, when you saidI was happy, or when you know
I'm happy, what did you say?
Whoa when I was oh, when likeyou're aggressive.
Yeah, donald was like.
He knows, I'm in a good moodwhen I'm aggressive, when I'm
like punching or beating orcursing because I'm such an I'm

(13:51):
aggressive, I'm gonna this iswhat I want to say.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
I am, I think, like.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
I am an aggressive lover.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
I.
I think I want to say like oneI don't think I've ever told you
this.
I think I have.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Ew, don't say anything.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
No, no, for real though, because I think I don't
know, is it going to beemotional?
Yeah, I'm extremely proud ofyou.
No, no, no, no, pause, pause,let me say it.
Let me say it.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
No, I'm extremely proud of you.
I am because I swear you shouldhear my heart beating.
I know I think for the past somuch two years.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Wow, for the past two years, like I think, I've
watched you, like you've you'vechanged.
I'm sure you've changedeveryone's lives, right?

Speaker 1 (14:41):
anyone who I don't like this.
I no, I'm getting somewhere.
I'm getting somewhere.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Okay, right, I think it's important, because it's
important to know that, like thepeople that are in your life
and the people that watch youactually like are going on that
journey with you, and like theymight not see every single like
cause, I feel like you're alwaysputting positivity out there

(15:06):
and I think that's part of thereason why, like when you were
feeling don't make me sad, Ew.
Like when you were feeling likeyou see cause, I cause.
For me, it's like I'm abusiness owner, like I'm a
creator too.
So on the back end, I'm likehow does Sophie feel?
Like?
How does Sophie feel Like, okay, this number is cause.
I'm feeling it too.
I'm looking at it on Lucy'sdaily, everything.
I'm like how does she feel?
Okay, this money is going hereCause we're all spending money,

(15:28):
like we live in this crazy place.
I think when I look at you andI talk to you, like you always
like nah, it's not about that,it's good.
Lot of people would go pastthrough like the last 20
episodes and like spendeverything apart from the
episodes, like everything we'veever touched, right.

(15:50):
And I think like a time isgoing to come where you're going
to look back and be like damn,that was crazy.
Tuition money right like wepaid a lot of tuition we paid a
lot of tuition for the rightthings.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Thank you for saying that that meant a lot to me, I
will kill you after the episode.
Okay, tell me you are notclipping that clip.
If I see that clip, I feel likethat's gonna be like a clip
where she's like that one friendwho can't take a compliment.
I can just see the social mediapost.
Right now, guys, I'm gonna bereferring to tommy tommy's, our
social media manager officianado.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
I feel like manager is so small.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Guru Guru, I was going to say God, okay, oh, I
don't know.
I don't know how to continuethat so season two.
I feel like we started reallygood.
This is.
It feels good, I miss this somuch.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Right.
Oh let's first person to blinkpays.
God damn it.
Tell me why do I like dares andlike competition, like if
there's like a reward forsomething because I'm a middle

(16:56):
child yeah, that seems like alogical answer.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
I don't fucking know why you're asking me that kind
of question.
What do I look like?
Nebuchadnezzar?
Who is Nebuchadnezzar?
Nebuchadnezzar is a king, kingin the jungle, jungle.
Very, very stupid, stupid, veryfoolish.
Where do I know that from?

Speaker 2 (17:20):
that's so random oh, he's a king of babylon, oh is
that in the bible?

Speaker 1 (17:27):
yeah, why am I?
Why do I know that I?
don't know, so random.
Anyways, season two, guys,donald likes competition and
donald loves me.
Yes, it's pretty much the wrapof it, but no, for season two.
I think I'm really excited tokick things off like this
because I feel like it's goingto be a fun season, but I also
think I'm going to move awayfrom seasons and just we're
going to be uploading everywednesday, anytime between 12 30

(17:47):
est to 4 30 est.
Let's just give that kind ofbreakthrough, and early, ideally
early looking at donald to makesure it is early, but um, it's
going to be fun.
I think there's so much we wantto catch up on.
We might open a patreon, wemight not, but I might still
have a year to stay.
So merch is going to be comingout soon.
I think I am going to bet onmyself fully.
I don't necessarily.

(18:09):
I can't speak sometimes and youguys also sidebar.
See, I don't finish my thought.
Hold on hold that.
Put it in your, put it in anote.
Okay, that I was gonna say.
I forgot what I was gonna say.
God damn it, guys.
I have adhd patreon patreon putit in just put patreon and merch
on the side okay, what was Isaying before then I have no
idea.
I shouldn't do that so mybiggest issue, I've been told,

(18:32):
is I don't finish my sentences,especially on the podcast.
Whenever I try to cut clips forthe podcast, I don't know how
to communicate without finishingmy sentences, especially even
when I'm talking to donald,because me and Donald are so in
sync that I know exactly whathe's about to say.
So I either also interrupt himby finishing his sentence for
him, or he's talking and I'vealready responded to his

(18:55):
conversation and I continue onand move on to something else.
So we're learning as we go forseason two that I'm going to try
to pace myself.
Let Donald speak, and if Idon't, don't know, if I don't
let you speak, say ah, orsomething okay.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Do you think podcasting is hard?

Speaker 1 (19:10):
yes, oh, absolutely like yapping for this long I
don't even know how we're doingit but also like making sure
we're entertaining people at thesame time.
I think is really hard.
See also, you know you justmoved the conversation to
something else, because how dowe get support?
I think what happens issometimes when someone is
talking you start thinking itstarts to fade out and I'm like,
ah, I wonder so I am learning,see, also, I interrupted you

(19:33):
because I knew exactly where youwere going with that well I
need to say it's not a goodthing.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
That will like people who do that, because some
people wait to continue.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
The next yeah I think it's because we are
entertainers like I never want alull in the conversation, right
, but at the same time, I thinkit's okay to have that law right
also.
I've been listening to trevornoah's podcast, though, and
trevor is just like me.
Trevor also interrupts people,yeah, so if trevor noah can do,
I can do it too.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
That's crazy well, I hope you guys can follow.
We just went through like 10different.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
I'm telling you it's so hard to cut clips from us
talking but, there's no other,first of all, yeah, this is
episode title adhd, adhd and meguys, I don't think there's any
podcast like what we have here,and I can say that on my mom
yeah, she's not dead.

(20:19):
Wow, oh my god, bro, on my dad,he's dead.
I can say that on my father'slife, like I don't think there's
any podcast like ours, likeeven listening to our banta, and
like the way we connect and wetalk is I think it's so raw and
so authentic and so us that I'mjust really grateful to like
have this space with you.
Um, I don't know why, Irandomly just said that, but I

(20:41):
just threw that out there.
Where are we in?
our feelings today?
I don't know.
I don't like it.
Let's move on, fuck you.
Anyways, let's do a quickcatch-up, because this episode
is just gonna be us catching upon what you've missed in our
lives and also our hot topicsand our crazy opinions about

(21:03):
everything else happening in theworld.
One thing you've missed, guys,is today.
Literally a few hours ago, Igot my ears pierced.
I got my helix and my middlelobe pierced and it still hurts
like a B-I-T-C-H.
So I'm in a lot of pain.
My ears are throbbing.
So if you feel or see someredness in my ear, that's why me
and donald ran a marathon.

(21:24):
I ran a half marathon and heran a full marathon.
Tell me everything you'refeeling.
So can I say something aboutdonald running his first
marathon.
Okay, guys, donald is the mostcompetitive asshole I've ever
met in my life, like especiallydon't.
I don't think donaldunderstands being a woman and a
man.
And now let's talk about itreal quick, because there's
nuance to that right masculinityand femininity and the nuance

(21:45):
of like.
What a masculine and femininetraits are men stronger than
women or men equal to women?
I hold the perspective that ourbodies are very different, not
necessarily our minds or ourbrains, even though I think are
different in different ways.
I say all that very nuanced.
It's not black and white.
I think it's very gray becausewhen Donald first told me about
he was going to run a marathon,I was like, oh, I'm definitely

(22:07):
going to run a marathon too andI can definitely do it.
And so I was.
I ended up being the firstperson to run a marathon and
donald is like competitive, sodonald would.
When I first started, I wouldbe like don't know, I can't run
within five minutes or a minute.
And don't know, don't be like,yes, you can, you can't be.
I'm like don't know, like I'm agirl, I'm just a girl, I can't
do that.
Like leave me alone.
And he would always make itseem like, yes, I could, and

(22:29):
that was fine, cause I ended uprunning and I killed it.
Donald's turn comes in my head.
I was like I kept trying totell him that a marathon isn't
necessarily a strength race,it's a mind race.
So that's why it's so differentfor men and women in that race,
specifically because bodycomposition, bodies, all of that

(22:49):
doesn't really matter in thatrace.
It's all about your mind.
You can be the fittest,strongest any man or woman in
the world.
Running a marathon is is such adifferent feat.
People who can run, it's all amind game you have to have the
mindset for it, that's why themen and women races when they
say the winners it's such aclose amount of time.
It's never necessarily about thefact that it's a man winning or

(23:10):
woman winning, it's simply justa thing of the mind, right?
So donald runs his race.
How did it go, donald?
I will say I called all thecertain mile mark and I've never
seen donald so defeated in myentire life.
Donald felt like I think in hishead he was like how the fuck
are all these tiny ass peoplerunning past me?
And these girls are running,and sophie ran this shit and she

(23:34):
didn't tell me this thing washard.
And I remember I said I thinkit's hard, but instead I think
he kept thinking no, she justdidn't train well enough, this
can't be that hard, right,donald?
How was the marathon?

Speaker 2 (23:44):
it was hard yeah, I saw it was.
It was probably the hardestthing I've ever done.
I remember, you know,completing the first half
marathon and you know we wentpast the finish line right and I
saw you finish so a marathon is26.2 miles or 42 kilometers
which is typically, on theaverage, you run a marathon for

(24:06):
about three to six hours, soyou're running steady for three
to six hours.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
That's the context, okay, and then, but half is 13.1
yeah, half is 13.1, so that'sabout two to four hours right
and on that day.
So if you ran a half, yes, Iwas not doing a full unless I
was getting a gold medal.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
After I passed that half I think like I've run a lot
you do, and when I got to the15th mile I felt something.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
I felt my muscle and like my calf like like tighten
up a bit and I was like, oh,what's going on, that's
interesting.
And then I go to 18 and Iphysically couldn't do it
anymore.
You couldn't and I couldn'tbelieve you because I'm just
like you've done this before,I've done like I've.
This is this is easy, like it'srunning, but like my body was

(24:54):
like no, but I would say, justto make the long story short,
the fact that I was alone, Ithink like that moment changed
my life because it made me slowdown.
Right, I slowed down and I waslike, if I'm gonna finish this,
I need to plan.
So I slowed down, walked alittle bit and I just started

(25:19):
running, but not in the same wayI was running before.
I had to change my entire likeway I was running to accommodate
for the pain that I was feeling.
And that's how I was able toget through to the end.
And like I would not recommendanyone to run a marathon, but
really I wouldn't, okay, but Iwould tell you that if you ran a

(25:40):
marathon, it would be the mostinsane, unreal.
It's the best thing you ever do.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
I feel unstoppable, yeah I think like the marathon
changed my life like even likerunning that half.
I remember mile one to three.
It's such a mile like a mindgame.
Yeah, we start.
First of all.
We were late to the startingpoint for the marathon day so I
was already like why the fudge?
Am I doing this again?
Like, first of all, donald canrun this by himself.
I will cheer him on.
I don't want to do this.

(26:06):
And I was so close every timeand I just told myself, if I got
to this end of the mile, I'llthink about it, I'll think about
stopping and I'll see end oftwo miles, end of three miles
into four miles.
Before you know, I was like atseven.
I was like, okay, if I can doseven, I can do eight.
I can do seven, I can do eight.
If I can do eight, I'm almostat 10.
If I can do 10, I might as welldo 13.
That was my thinking for thehalf.
And I remember like I was withDonald's girlfriend and his
sister and when I finished Ifound them and I was like, oh,

(26:29):
how's Donald doing?
Because I had finished the raceand he was still running and
his girlfriend was like he's notdoing good, he's to be here
anymore and I was like I'm gonnacall him, and I called him and
just hearing your voice breakessentially didn't.
It was like oh my god, are youokay?
He's like, yeah, but like fuck,I'm like, he's like, so he's
hard.
I'm like I know.
I've been trying to tell youthat, no matter how hard you

(26:52):
prepare, yeah, race day can goso many different ways and the
only thing that matters is youjust keep running, like the idea
of like nemo, just keepswimming.
And I think, even watching youaccomplish that, I was so proud
of you because, like, I knew howhard you train and I knew how
much you beat yourself up for it, but at the same time, like you
finished that shit like you didit.
Your first marathon is over with.

(27:12):
Now you can do like 20 millionmore, but the fact that you push
through is a trait that not alot of people have.
Yeah, people give up right andagain, like, of course, if
you're not feeling like it'shealthy for you, whatever, you
should absolutely always give up.
Like, don't kill yourself oversomething that you shouldn't
kill yourself over.
But it takes a certain level ofa person to be in so much pain.
But just be like, as long as Iput one foot in front of the

(27:35):
other, I'm gonna be fine whichis exactly why I really love.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
The thing is like it was, it was hard, it was hard as
shit, like it was the hardest,like yeah, mile 20 insane I was
like once, when he's always thehardest, I was like.
There's a like those.
Those are possibilities that Icouldn't have finished and that
was the scariest thing, becauseI finished in four hours 58
minutes and when I thought aboutrunning the marathon like my

(27:59):
first half yeah I was done inlike two hours yeah so like
running an extra three hours forthe second half was like wow,
like but remember, I told you, Isaid at some point it's not
even about power anymore, it'sjust about mind.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Yeah, because your body will pain, your body
doesn't want to pull you throughthat shit like.
There's so many things ourbodies don't want to do that we
have to do for the body andaround me too.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
It's like the people like.
It's such an interesting visualbecause you have people around
you giving up, yeah, crying, andit was like a long stretch of a
graveyard.
That was like the entire becausewe ran the jersey city marathon
it was and I was like, okay, ifI can make it to the end, I
think the fact that I had youguys at the end I was like and
one thing about me is like Iwant to always make sure I make

(28:43):
people proud, Cause the last dayI don't want to give anyone a
reason to not complete something, yeah, but also would have been
proud of you regardless.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
I hope you know that.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
I know that yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
But I would have not been proud of myself.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
I would have, but that's the thing.
So after the marathon, forthree days I couldn't do
anything.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yeah, you could not right, but seven days later you
felt like I could do this shitagain I ran a half marathon, you
did and you killed it.
You speeded mcmuffin, I'mtelling you, I was running fast
and I was like wow, well, yousee my issue with you, though
can we call you out real quick?
So here's the thing I tried totell Donald Slow and steady also

(29:23):
wins the race Right, and Ithink you doing the half
marathon and making sure youwere fastest and you killed it
was proving to yourself that youcan do it.
Will you like?

Speaker 2 (29:33):
not to throw it back at you.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Let me explain.
Okay, you can't say yes or nobecause I'm very sure of this
thing it might affect everywhere.
I, yeah, and you can't tell meyes or no because I'm very sure
of this thing.
Because you do that, itmanifests everywhere.
Okay, I think for me, watchingyou do that was so great.
I also, and it was humbling forme to see you struggle, because
I think one of your traits thatI've noticed is like you think

(29:56):
you know everything.
No, in a bad way right, you'revery like.
I know exactly what I'm doing,so you don't tend to want to ask
questions with your peers.
I think maybe you've been hurtin the past.
We might unpack this later yeahmaybe you've been hurt.
So you tend to like you would goto ai or computers or you do
your own research and then youcome to a conclusion but you
don't listen to other peopleabout their thoughts to
influence your decision, whichis a good and a bad thing, right

(30:17):
, because I remember that when Iwas training I kept telling you
, like it's not, it's a longrace, it's slow and steady, wins
the race.
But in your mind you're like,yeah, but I've all, I've done
all the research.
If chad gbt tells me if I'vetrained for 16 weeks this exact
mileage and this exact thing anddo this exactly, I'm going to
get this specific outcome, no,right that's not how life works,
like so many things caninfluence that.

(30:39):
So when you went back to the aftmarathon, I was really proud of
you that you did that, but Idon't think I've told you this
too.
I was really proud of you thatyou did that, you did it well,
but in my head I was also a bitdisappointed.
I was like, oh, I wish you gotthe lesson of maybe you have of
it's still okay that it was.
I was slow at the longer thingand I was not the best at this
longer thing, because maybethat's not for me, but I can
still do it and train and be thebest at that pace right, like I

(31:02):
don't have because you're notcompeting with anyone.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
True, you ran that race fastest, okay no, then what
you know, you know whathappened I finished the race and
the guy that came firstfinished in an hour.
So I finished in one, like anhour 58.
The guy finished in an hour andI was like, wow, can I run an
hour?
But but I would say, when I got, when I got to the half

(31:25):
marathon, I was like I'm notgonna run fast unless I feel
good.
And I started running and atmile two I followed the pacers
and I looked at them and I waslike, oh, like, I feel good yeah
and brooklyn was so like thatwas a broken marathon.
It was so beautiful.
Yeah, I was like I love thisyeah and I was going, but I

(31:47):
honestly didn't think that.
All I knew is I wanted tofinish all the two hours yeah
and the moment I looked and Isaw the two-hour pacer, I was
like no, I have to go.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
Yeah, I'm really proud of you.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
I'm so proud of you through everything I'm happy I
didn't run toronto because I wasgoing to go four days later.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
I know it's a great you're just gonna try to prove
to yourself.
I guess that you could do itand then break your leg, which
would not make any sense,because we need, honestly, we
don't need your leg, we justneed your mouth I don't like
that.
I'm like.
I said that moving on I'mgrateful for my legs I am too.
Yeah, we're all grateful fordonald's legs.
I didn't like that either.

(32:23):
Let's move on.
Um, okay, guys.
Um, let's see what else haveyou guys missed?
Um, I'm working with delta.
Yeah, um, I'm working with oneof my dream brands this year.
That was really exciting.
They're doing this really coolproduction.
I don't think, by the time thisepisode comes out, I don't
think it's going to be live yet,but it's going to be live on
their YouTube channels andhopefully on planes everywhere.
So, if you see my low face onthe Delta plane on an ad, yeah,

(32:47):
your girl's big, she's doing bigthings, and that's been such an
interesting experience justnavigating.
I'm literally going to Atlantain a few days to film the final
episode for them, and I've beentraveling a lot.
I've hit five countries thisyear alone, which I'm really
grateful for as well.
Many more to come.
My goal is to hit 10 countriesthis year intentionally and
we're very much on track to dothat.

(33:08):
It's also something really bigcoming up this summer that we're
not going to tell you guys yet,but we're going to tell you
guys really soon.
But I'm also doing really well.
Like, mentally, I've been very.
The past day or three days havebeen rough, especially just
because I think, with thepodcast starting over, with
everything going on, with Deltaending, I'm feeling a bit lost

(33:29):
on what I want to do.
But I realized I can't stopmoving and the moment I stop
moving is when I start gettingin my head.
So my goal has been to just notstop moving and prioritizing my
routines and my goals andeverything like that, and it's
been really good so far.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
So it's been a really good year for us, I think.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
I think, yes, yeah right, because we came into this
year like really strong we didlike I became swinging, like it
was like and I felt like therewas so much going on in our
lives.
Yeah, that like it made senseto come into the year the way we
did.
Yeah, right, like, and justeven like working through
everything that I went throughlast year and this year too,

(34:10):
2025 has been a very interestingyear, yeah, and it feels like
it's been a blur so far and it'sgonna be even crazier I think.
I think I don't remember likedonald, I mean, I wasn't gone
twice in january, february, likewhat the hell.
No, yeah, a lot has happenedmarch I was no home march or
february or april, and then it'smay.
Now, and then my mom's incanada now with my, my family,

(34:32):
like I'm supposed to be goingthere.
Work is happening.
We stopped the podcast.
We're starting it over again.
You ran a marathon, I ran ahalf marathon.
I've lost friends.
I've gained friends.
Um, I've had people come tostay over.
You know, I mean like and andand I feel like it's important.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Okay, there's a lot of personal work going on behind
the scenes between both of us.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yes, I think we're doing a lot of self work and
self growth, like we're doingthis thing where we don't scroll
on our phones anymore, um,that's been really hard.
Yeah, like the I'm, I gave upon this.
I started watching youtubebecause I just couldn't not
watch youtube but and every timeI get scroll, I give myself 15
minutes if I catch myself goingonline to like respond to dms

(35:14):
it's too small it's too small no, like it's too much, give
yourself 15 minutes it goes awayso
quick, so fast like I'd be onthe bathroom like wait, it's
finished I have to stop this butI, we decided to not scroll for
the entire month of may, justto see how it changes our
perspective of working andcontent.
It's a game changer.
I don't think I've, I've, never, I've not compared myself like
I had the met gala recap, whichthe met gala just happened the

(35:37):
way I did not have, becauseusually when I'm doing recaps
like that, I'll go scroll onlinesee what other people are
saying and then, oftentimes,without knowing it, it
influences your decision.
Yeah, I just didn't do that.
I just I literally kept myTikTok open, saved the photos
posted, saved the photos postedand I got over 10 million
impressions on that alone and Iwas like, oh my God, I am so

(35:57):
special by myself.
Like, individually, we're sogreat.
We as humans are not meant tobe taking in so much of other
people's content yeah we'resupposed to be create.
Like if you're interested inbeing a creator, right, like,
because there's certain peoplewho aren't people who enjoy
taking things in, they enjoydoing that.
Like I wouldn't be where I amtoday if they're not people who
enjoy listening to people talkright, right, like I enjoy

(36:18):
podcasts.
So I listen to certain peopletalk too, and I'm learning that
it's okay to quiet your mind abit and just focus on you.
So not scrolling has beenreally great.
We started the artist way, theone that doji popularized
recently, and this is this bookabout discovering your
creativity.
That's been also insane to me.
Like the self-work I've beenworking through, yeah, has been

(36:39):
a bit scary.
Like I think one of the biggestthings I've learned from the
artist way is I.
I am my biggest critic.
Yeah, like you guys, Ioverthink every fucking thing
and like this has been somethingthat I've struggled with since
time.
Yeah, like I go.
I snapchat is terrible for thisbecause sacha has memories.
Almost every single video of mein some way or form every month

(37:00):
is me saying I don't know ifI'm doing well enough, I don't
know if I'm doing good enough.
I don't know if I'm doing this.
I don't know if I'm doing that.
I'm sorry I'm not doing better.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
I'm so critical of me and myself and I'm a
perfectionist I realize thatholds me back so much so I'm
learning to even like unpackthat and just let go and let
live one of the things I learnedfrom week three was, you know
how, like you have this high oflike you're on a good run and
then, like you have this restright where, like your body's
resting, being able to tellyourself that like this rest is

(37:29):
needed, yes, right, like it'snot, because, like I feel guilty
when, like I'm not doinganything, yeah, I'm like we need
to do something, like somethingneeds to happen and you said
something today.
Right, it's like and I thinkthis ties back to how season one
went it's like at no point didI look at season one.

(37:50):
I'm like, wow, this is likethousands of people and all
these comments you know, wedidn't do that.
No, like, we celebrated, likebecause the entire time we're
just like what's next, where canwe go?
And like what you said todaywas we should figure out.
No, like you're learning how toenjoy the moment, the things
that like you have right,because there's so much going on
, because you get that medgalatine, it's like that's easy

(38:11):
and you know, when we look atlike the audacity reacts, we get
all this like we've done somuch, so much.
You know, and yeah, it's like,unfortunately, instant
gratification, I think, is ourissue but no, I think it's also
the ambition you know, it's likewe're very ambitious, yeah, and
it's like the container thatwe've built, that we want to
occupy, is really big, so it'sfrustrating, yeah, when we're

(38:32):
not, like you know, increasingat the rate, like the volume is
not increasing at the rate.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
That we wanted to.
I'm thinking about it fromtimothy shalamet.
That's not right, timothychalamet, when he got the award
and he said I want to be one ofthe greats, I want to be so
successful like I.
I am meant to do more.
I am meant I am not meant tosimply exist as me in this

(38:59):
moment.
I am meant for so much more.
I know it in my bones.
And so sometimes I feel like,because I know what my potential
is, I am pushing myself to thebrink of exhaustion, because I'm
like, girl, you're not eventhere yet.
Like I, right now, I think I'mat 0.0 percent.
It's the hardest thing, it's.

(39:19):
I think we're both at like.
I think when we talk about alot, we're like we're not even
there.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
It's like every piece of content, work, anything that
I do, yeah I hate because I'mlike it's not good, it's not
good enough.
I know there's so much morethat I can do better, but I'm
just like why didn't we think,why didn't you know?

Speaker 1 (39:37):
well, I want to give us grace, yeah, and I want to
give whoever's listening, who'salso feeling the way we're
feeling, grace, because I feellike our listeners are from all
over the world, but specifically, we have nigeria in the us as
some of our top like countries,yeah, and if you're nigerian or
from america, it's a rat race.
If you're listening to this,you're going to be thinking of
how can I make money, how can Ibe better, how can I be
successful?

(39:57):
It's a rat race that we'reengaged in and I just want to
give us grace all of us who arelike high achieving people, who
really, really want the best forourselves, and we feel like
maybe we're not there yet.
You're on that journey, you'rein that mix, you're on that
process, you're on the ride,you're in or you're on the
yellow brick road.
The castle is right there, thewizard of oz is in front of you,

(40:18):
like okay, well there was awoman, and you're also alive
you're alive and well right,like you're thriving, you're
flourishing, you're in thatgrowth stage and last year I
kept saying I'm so grateful.
And I remember my friend waslike why do you keep saying
you're so grateful, like we knowyou're grateful.
No, no, no, I'm not saying foranybody else I'm saying for me
yeah like I need to remindmyself every time that I am
grateful for the opportunities Iam being afforded right now

(40:41):
yeah because if I don't say that, then at some point I'm going
to forget that I'm supposed tohave gratitude for everything
happening to me and I never wantto forget that.
At my core, I always want toremember where I started, where
I am currently and where I wantto go yeah so even right now,
I'm grateful that we have theopportunity to do season two
again right like I'm gratefulthat you guys who are coming,

(41:02):
who are new listeners I'mgrateful you found us.
I'm grateful for folks who areor been with us, who have been
like y'all.
When is the next episode?
Right?
Because we're buildingsomething here that I think is
so special.
Like the dream is in a year orfive years.
We're in mad skin square garden, sold out arena, me and donald
on that stage, guest starringany cash and justin ug.

(41:24):
Guest performances by fuckingiris star, beyonce, tyla, the
weekend scissor oh fucking, I'mjust throwing out names right
and like we're the biggest blackpodcasters in the world, all
for being ourselves.
Now, for a lot of people thatcould be like how the fudge are
you gonna get there?
I don't know, I'm sure I don'tknow if we're ever gonna get

(41:44):
there.
I wonder if this clip is gonnadie in the abyss, or I can think
about it and say no, this isexactly what's going to happen
because I can see it.
I can see me at msg, atbarclays center.
I can see me inspiring so manypeople and inspiring myself to
dream as big as I want topossibly dream, because there's
so much potential.
It's crazy.
There is so much potential intruly being an existing yourself

(42:07):
and being vulnerable because, Ithink this space is exactly
what that is.
Okay, oh my god.
This is a really good seasonstarter kickoffer.
Clearly, we've missed talking.
Yeah, we've missed this shit.
I've missed this so much.
Guys, I'm so, I'm so, I'm back.
I'm so glad we're here.
It's so special.
All right, let's get into somepop culture commentary.

(42:28):
Some everything has beenhappening.
The one thing I don't see onthe notes we're going to be
using my trusty iPad that Ireally want to talk about, and
it's Jalen, when it washappening.
When I tell you, it took me somuch not to freaking write a
think piece about those two.
If you're listening to this,let me give you some backstory.
Monet McMichael is anincredible TikToker creator,

(42:52):
model artist, everything.
She blew up on TikTok frombeing a former nursing student
who's currently now one of thebiggest influencers and creators
.
Jalen Noble was on Love Islandand he and Monet are dating.
We followed her journey ongoing on dates with him.
They're now dating.
People love to hate people.
That's one thing I'm learningabout social media and
negativity.
And recently Jalen bought ahouse, and when he bought the

(43:13):
house, it was he bought a housein Austin.
It's like a cabin slash vibehouse kind of thing and the
house is a guest house thatresembles like one of those like
old plantation houses inamerica, like slavery slave
quarters, essentially.
So he talked about one of hisfirst videos was him talking
about this is my guest house,this is the plan for it, we're
gonna make it into a gym.
And the comments there was likeoh my god, this looks like

(43:36):
slave quarters.
And he was responding in thecomments, laughing with them.
Them Like, yeah, y'all aregoing to go crazy.
Yeah, your ancestors must knowthis is crazy.
But he started talking anddoing all of that, right, and he
was clearly joking.
It's the same way Like if meand Donald were ever doing
something and for some reason,someone is like oh yeah, sophie
X, y and Z and I'm laughingabout it.

(44:05):
Like, oh yeah, this is clearlya joke, right?
Y'all will definitely know I'mnot that kind of person.
So that's what I got from hiscomments.
Fast forward to Monet gettingher house as well and like,
talking about the comments,people talking about how he says
my house, she says our house.
They've been dating for abouttwo, three years now and he
posted a gym transformationvideo and people went crazy
talking about how black peopleshould not be owning, how homes
that resemble plantations shouldnot be in these spaces.
They should talk about thesespaces with reverence.
And there was a lot of thinkpieces dragging these two

(44:28):
creators, and all I could notstop thinking about is why in
God's name do we love to hateeach other?
Tell me, donald Money.
Money Explain.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
TikTok makes money, so people some of these
commentators don't make moneymoney.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
Explain tiktok makes money, so people do.
Some of these commentatorsdon't make money no, yes,
attention but it's like negative.
I'm simplifying it, but it'slike like you said, right, it's
really hard to not talk likewell, like why, like?
I hope to god that I don't haveany comments where I've been
negative with people and if I do, that was a very terrible time
for me if I ever have.
That was a very terrible timefor me If I ever have that.
But I have never thought to fixmy hand and write something

(45:06):
negative.
If I felt like gossiping orbeing negative, I will text the
group chat Right or call myfriends to gist them Right.
I don't imagine a world where weare so comfortable pouring out
negativity Like yappa yappa,yappa out negatively like yep,
it's so bad you you literallyfix your phone to record you
talking negatively about someoneelse.
And here's the thing.
There's a difference betweencriticizing someone or giving

(45:27):
like feedback, like oh hey,jaylen.
Um, I saw your home.
This is no negativity to you atall.
I think you should do this.
Maybe send them a dm.
You might not know that theymight see, they might do some
research themselves.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
That, I think, is a better approach than creating a
whole video but it was also like, based off of, like something
that wasn't fact wasn't fact forcrying out.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
It wasn't true.
He comes back and he's like I,my place has no relation to
slavery.
People are like oh, of courseyou'll say that.
Oh, this definitely, it's fakepeople.
Shut the fuck up.
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
Guys like he had to hire someone he had.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
It's so mean and monet posted on her snap, on her
spam page, where she talkedabout how exhausting it is,
because it's a phenomenonespecially within the black
community because it'severywhere.
That's the craziest part,everywhere honestly, it's really
in the immigrant, uh community.
Yeah, no matter what immigrantyou are like I have a friend
who's korean.
We were just talking about thistoo yeah, where you get to a

(46:20):
certain point and it's the crabin a bucket mentality where you
feel like you have to fight eachother for the little resources
that are left.
Because how dare you be betterthan me when I am supposed to be
at the same level as you orbetter, and that, to me, breaks
my heart because I can't imagineposting content, being very
happy for myself, being a proudblack guy or black woman,

(46:46):
sharing my wins, and people arequestioning oh, of course she
took out the black in her bio.
Of course she's saying my housewhen that guy hates her.
Get a fucking life.
You guys, why are you so mean?
Yes, you're mean.
You are being mean Becauseimagine if it was you.
I can't imagine a world where Isee you walking in the street
and I say look at your ugly asswith your ugly house and your
tentacles.
In person, I will smack theshit out of you like I wish.

(47:10):
I wish a black mirror episodeshould come out where, instead
of negative opinions, someoneappears in front of the person
they want to say somethingnegative to and say it to their
face.
Right, I dare you.
I dare these people to go infront of someone and just step
in front of them and say somecrazy shit but they're not gonna
do it twitter warriors fingerof warriors yapping, yapping no,
no, I think, like twitter isdifferent, much twitter is

(47:30):
different because that's justbehind your face.
Your face is on there and itjust takes one person to say
something for the dog piling tobegin, because you all want
those views.
You cannot be successful bybeing negative yeah let me
repeat that you cannot besuccessful by being negative.
It doesn't matter what you do orsay right like even me, when I
was doing met gala recap, I feltso bad.

(47:52):
I couldn't say worst dress, Isaid not best right, and I even
then I felt so bad because I'mlike I can't imagine so.
Even now I still regret doingit.
I'm like, in some way, thefolks who are doing this
particular thing are openingthemselves to criticism too, and
I see that with social mediatoo, where it's like, oh yeah,
if I post online, I'm openingmyself to critique.
Was a different critique beensaying we're stressed versus I

(48:13):
think you deserve to die becauseyou potentially are living on
slave quarters.
Mind you, there are whitepeople who also live and have
weddings, who is?
weddings exactly on theseplantations because, like, who
else is supposed to own it?
And even if they're owning itand are not represented like I
can't speak.
Even if they're owning thesespaces and not representative of
the like, they're notrepresenting what I'm trying to

(48:35):
say.
Even if they own this thing andthey're not hyping it up or
like showing reverence to thespirits of the land, the fact
that, as a black person, as ablack descendant, you have the
ability to even buy the land inthe first place, your existence
is an act of resistance.
Your ancestors will be proud ofyou, regardless.
We are doing this shit like.

(48:55):
That is a black man who canafford to buy his own home?
That is a black woman who'sable to afford to buy her own
home who is finding success onsocial media.
We were in chains and now we'rebreaking free, owning,
podcasting, owning studios,making films, pushing the
barriers of things our astroscould not dream of, and what we

(49:17):
want to do is break ourselvesfucking down.
Are you kidding me?
Some of the biggest bullies onsocial media are all these
creators who all they do isbully each other.
It's terrifying, why?
Why?
The negativity within our owncommunity.
And yes, it's okay, fenita,it's okay to criticize, but the
idea that you want to bringsomeone down because, oh, they

(49:38):
deserve to be canceled Shut thefuck up.
I'm so sorry.
Clearly I'm so passionate aboutthis.
I wish, like it's so verylittle of us who happen to break
past the barrier to go to thetop, and even then we claw at
those people at the top to bringthem back down to earth.
I've never seen anything likeit, and we're such a small

(50:02):
population.
It terrifies me that everybodyelse is going to win while we
keep losing because we can'tfucking see what we're supposed
to be doing.
We can't see past our ownbullshit.
So shout out to Jalen and Monet.
Congrats to Jalen for havinghis beautiful home.
Congrats to Monet for killingit.
You deserve the very best.
No matter what, keep fucking.

(50:22):
Keep your head up, keepswimming.
Ignore the hate.
They're always going to hate.
There's nothing you can doabout it.
I am just really proud of youguys.
Your existence is always a formof resistance, no matter what
they say.
Let me let you know that Nextpop I was, so I'm so passionate
about that.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
Hashtag your existence is a form of
resistance.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
It really is Okay.
Moving on, wow, we have a newpope and he's an american pope.
How do we feel about that?
I'm not catholic so I knownothing about the process.
It's from chicago chai town, isthat right?

Speaker 2 (50:54):
yeah, america, is that good for vatican city?

Speaker 1 (50:59):
I think I feel like the beauty of the pope is I
think americans tend to makeeverything about americans, but
for the most part, I don't knowwhere the last pope was from.
Oh, I think oh argentina Idon't know, but argentinians
would know.
But the beauty of the idea islike when the pope becomes a
pope, he sheds his past life.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
Why did they have to see it was american?

Speaker 1 (51:20):
because americans will american every time.
Americans will american everytime, especially because he's
also a pope.
That stands against what thecurrent administration is doing
right so it makes sense thatthey're like oh my god, we have
our first american pope.
Also, he's the first americanpope ever, which is, I think,
very symbolic, and I'minterested to see where the
catholic church goes, becausealso the world is becoming very

(51:42):
um hateful well, argentina,argentina, that's good the world
is becoming like.
I think we had like a solideight to ten years where
everybody was like, oh diversity, oh inclusion, oh growth, and
now everybody's like boo anyadvancements at all, like we
don't want any of this to happen.
So I like that.
I think it would be interestingto see an english-speaking

(52:02):
american pope champion and pushback against, like what the
current western world is doing,because I think the west is
becoming stricter and moreconservative.
Yeah, and what's so funny to meabout conservatism or just
people wanting to control otherpeople?
It's never worked well foranyone in the past.
Yeah, I don't think, but likenothing has ever worked well for

(52:24):
anybody wanting to controlpeople.
Like people have lost theirlives, people have suffered
because we genuinely just wantedthem to not be who they are and
I just it's disappointing whenI see humans just not respect
and love each other and I'm I'mexcited to the new, for the new
pope.
I'm not religious in that way,but everyone seems excited for

(52:45):
the new pope, his brotherespecially.
Has been some news about howthe pope's brother has been
talking about how his brother isthe pope, but he's still going
to call him brother and I waslike that's really cute he
monetizes them.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
There we go humanize.
Yeah, people are also mad thathe didn't speak english.
Americans forget that americansthey don't.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
The pope does not speak.
Yeah, they're like okay, whywon't he speak english?
Because the pope does not.
Even the former pope did notspeak english americans love
them though.
Hashtag blue passport, um.
Moving on, we talked about thisa little bit, but the met gala
also just happened.
Yeah, I rated them on my tiktok, so don't forget to check out
my tiktok for all those rating.
Black dandyism was the theme ofthis year's met gala.
It was fun, it was great.

(53:27):
I wish more people stepped outin color and did more, and I'm
also.
I'm so curious to see whypeople decided to like.
It's so interesting.
Again, sorry, I say this a lot.
What are you looking at?
No, I'm good.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
No, but you're looking at something I'm just
checking, okay, because I pause,you're supposed to be, I'm also
.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
I'm also in charge of looking at this, so no one is
the producer as well as theco-host of the podcast, and he
tends to.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
He's trying to make sure the cameras are all good at
the end of the day he distractsme, because when he's doing
that, I'm looking at him likeit's something wrong and he's
like you have a worried face theentire time.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
Your face is worrisome anyways, guys, but the
met gala happened.
Um, let's talk about it realquick.
First of all, how the met galaworks is.
There are certain fashionhouses that buy chairs.
It's a charity event so youraise money?
I have no idea, okay so youraise money for the mets right

(54:20):
the metropolitan museum, becausewe don't pay to go to the met,
it's free, they have theseexhibitions and they make money.
So this year was they raisedthe most money and fashion
houses buy tables at this gala.
You go in, there's performances, it's a fun time, but the idea
is the fashion houses dress thepeople who they're inviting.
It's very all-inclusive, veryamazing all that stuff.
So sometimes celebrities don'tnecessarily have a choice in

(54:41):
their looks, but they also do.
There's a hierarchy,essentially Like, the bigger you
are, the more you have arelationship with a fashion
house you get, the better itlooks.
So I think most people camelooking correct and others did
not.
I want to speak from theAfricans who were attended,
because I know Brenna, boy,aristar, thames, kabilame and so
many other African creatorsattended, but also this was also

(55:03):
the most diverse Megala Do.
This was also the most diverseMet Gala, though it was mostly
black, but also there was like alot of like Indian actors there
, asian actors who were likeincredible too, or Southeast
Asians or Eastern Asians, Idon't know.
I don't want to say Asian,because Indian is Asian.
The point is there was a bunchof diverse people there, the
Africans at the Met wearingdress in the way I thought they

(55:23):
would be dressed is like bolderand like fun and amazing and I
was a bit disappointed.
But I understand also, like thehierarchy in those situations.
Yeah, and everyone played it sosafe with the theme that I was
a bit frustrated about whyeveryone was playing it safe and
I can see there was a divideonline with people saying they
did really well and other peoplesaying they could have done

(55:43):
better because the theme isblack dandism, like congolese
inspiration.
You know there's so much more.
Being in a suit is just onething, but the colorfulness, the
boldness, the vibrancy, theintentionality of all of this
like so they are pulling up in awhite suit pissed me off.
Yes, I get it, because she canrock anything and she was going
to like the simple route.
I think she was trying to beanita baker.

(56:04):
I think it was inspired by Ithink maybe that was megan
salian, I can't remember.
No, I think meg was josephinebaker, right, but either way, I
just was.
I was disappointed, but also itwas fun.
It was like, with everythinggoing on in america, this was a
fun, like insight into likeblack expressionism and how
amazing black people can be,even through a time of like

(56:27):
frustration and anxiety around,like so many laws being passed
by the current administration inAmerica specifically.
Okay, next thought I like howsometimes it all just looks at
me as I keep yapping along noCause, like I.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
You could explain it, but I still don't understand
the Megala.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
Really, I also it's a fashion thing.
It's like for fashion heads.
I like it because it's fun oh,I like the drama.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
I love the drama.
The whole sharkan drama wasinteresting let's talk about
that.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
So you guys keep, uh, fuck me.
Tiana taylor and ego went in.
Yeah, so uh, tiana and egointerviewed shark khan and if
you don't know shark khan, he'sa huge, like one of the biggest
bollywood stars in the world,and I didn't find anything wrong
with the interview well whenpeople, a lot of people were

(57:17):
like oh, they felt disrespectedbecause they clearly didn't know
who shark khan was.
I think people sometimes forgetthat america has centered itself
as the powerhouse of mediaright, and then we have and not
because of the numbers, notbecause the number is just
because of america, like americais just a bully, right, it's
america.

(57:37):
They've all.
We all know america is like.
If you've met any american, theaverage american is just, they
don't care, they don't eventravel out of america, right,
america is so big that theydon't need to.
Someone from louisiana mightnever go to la because la is
like the big city is, and theyjudge them like that's how
america is.
And then we have bollywood.
We have korea.
Essentially, I say koreabecause k-pop is a thing.
Korea movies are a thing.

(57:58):
We have nollywood, which is thenigerian version of hollywood.
Even then, bollywood isinspired by hollywood and
nigeria is not.
Hollywood is probably byhollywood.
So essentially, the entireworld tends to look at the west
because the west is positioneditself as the sense of power.
So institutions like that wouldsay like, oh, why didn't they
like show him more respect orprove that they like were
listening?

(58:18):
And I'm like, because it'samerica.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
America doesn't care about everybody else america
doesn't work with movies americadoes not work with like the
average.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
But nigerian would watch.
But like you know, I mean likeI think everybody else in the
world interacts with everybodyelse in the world.
Americans don't necessarilyinteract with everybody else in
what they tell their own storiesand their own version, and
that's what americans hear everytime.
It's a beautifully fascinatingthing about living in american
media because if you're inamerica you're so blocked out

(58:49):
from the rest of the world.
I think that's the same thingabout like you can argue about
any other place in the world,like they might just give you an
idea of if you go to europe,for example.
People think americans are stuckup and annoying they are, but
like that's the thing aboutliving in america.
You just you get that a lot andthey move on.
So I think it was justunnecessary uproar, because once
you accept that americans canbe.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
I think the outrage comes from, like someone who
doesn't live in america.
They watch the met and they seethat interaction and they're
wondering why, like first of all, it's janitor and like no.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
But the stylist was the one who said I don't think
you guys understand.
Like this is one of the biggeststars in the world.
He already.
He came in with a chip on hisshoulder.
He was upset because he's,because even shere khan was like
I don't know why I'm here butit makes sense, I have to be
here because I need to be herehe's not even a fashion guy,
right?
The man did not care to bethere, so even his style has
been like.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
You guys need to bow down to this man yeah, that's
not like unfortunately rightlike this is not this.
No, it's also not a castesystem like I feel, like you
know, it's like they're gonnareact like that like yeah
freaking.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Andrea leone telly was replaced by liza koshy.
That's all we need to knowabout american media.
I don't know if you know whothat is no, okay where the
former entertainment director ofvogue, who, like the red carpet
correspondent for the met gala,this like incredible fashion
icon was replaced by lizakoshoshi for numbers, because
she had more numbers at thatpoint in her career.
Like it's america media, youaccept that.

(01:00:13):
You move on right anyways.
Moving on against some otherhot topics, the bt awards is
going to be hosting 106 andparks 25th anniversary
celebration.
Guys, when I heard about this Ididn't know it was a thing, and
I like that the BET Awards iscoming back in America.
I think when I was a kid I usedto watch 106 and Park on BET.
That was like my first introinto black American culture that

(01:00:33):
I really enjoyed.
It made me feel very fascinatedabout everything, so I'm really
excited that that is happening.
I don't even want to watch theBET Awards.
I wasn't planning on it, butnow I think I will, because,
because I'm like when is ithappening?
Paying tribute to the show?
Oh, what's happening?
It's airing June 9th.

(01:00:54):
Ooh, where am I?

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
going to be.
I'll be on my way back.
Hosted by Kevin Hart.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
Kevin Hart.
Oh, you guys, I have such athat man.
I love Kevin.
He's so driven That'll beinteresting to actually watch.
We're going to stay tuned andwe're going to react to the bt
awards when they come out,because I'm really curious to
see, like, how kevin revives it,because I think that's why
kevin is doing it.
He also just launched hiscartoon on bt.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
So that makes sense, kevin, kevin no little kev
little kev.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
I think it's little kev, that's about right.
Well, I think that's also whyhe's he they got him to do it.
There's no way because if not,I'm okay.
I know he's not done, no one noone before high profile has
done the bt awards before likein recent years.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
I wonder who hosted it last year.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
Anyways, moving on again.
Oh my god, donald, a hundredmen versus one gorilla.
We're a bit.
We're like three weeks latefrom this conversation but, I
want to talk about it.
First of all, it's a recessionindicator that we're deciding
that we want to find out thisargument.
But also, this is not the firsttime I've heard this argument

(01:01:56):
like I've heard it before, likethis is I feel like every two to
three years we come up withthis hundred men versus one
gorilla.
My thing is 10 men cannot fighta sumo wrestler, not to talk
about a gorilla.
So why in gaza, would we think100 men you trust?
Imagine you throwing donaldsand peers like donald to you.

(01:02:19):
Would you charge a gorilla?

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
why, if I see the gorilla breaks one person's
skull, I'm running away, youknow the entire time when people
are like oh, one gorilla versushundred men, I feel like the
people that started the trenddon't even know what a gorilla
is.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
Because, like this is not.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
This is not a monkey, as I'm saying, this is not an
orangutan, this is like agorilla right like his hand can
clear 10 people at least, thedistance will be like 10 yards
if one, if one gorilla shouldshove donald.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
Donald's own body can shove 10 people.
Yes, so already you are down 20, is that?

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
statistic is right.
No, no, I'm like is that a goodthing?
No, but you're right though.
Yeah, I'm like why?

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
and some people are like oh, some people attack do
people also understand like Idon't think enough people get
into physical violent activities?
Yeah, because I feel like ifmore people engaged in fights
they will understand howfighting works, right fighting
is aggressive guys, you have tobe willing to die.
Oh, I see no, but it's truethough do you ever think I'll
get in a fight?
No, I swear to you, I wouldrather die like no that's why I

(01:03:26):
don't, that's why I don't fight.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
I can't fight.
When I was in boarding school Iused to fight a lot, but I
didn't have anything to live for.
I'm being serious because it'slike I went to an all boys
school.
So when you're fighting like Ihave nothing to live for, I'm
not thinking about the future,we're going to die but now, now
I'm not going to touch you.
A hundred, first of all, itmeans that a hundred men need to

(01:03:48):
agree that, like, nobody willrun away, I think they will have
to lock a hundred point.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
So, first of all, are they willing to go into the
room?
That's the one thing.
Are they choosing to all fightto the death.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Is there a prize involved?
Is there a prize involved?

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
And is it that they are sharing?

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
because that's also a different some people will even
kill some of the other menexactly.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
Human nature is very difficult.
Like they're going to startthinking, oh, because this man
is saying this, I'm going tokill 10 of them, first right
we've seen squid games, bro.
A gorilla is just thinking foodanger is this a gorilla like
why are you attacking?
Is this a squirrel?
Have you seen a gorilla's teethbefore yo?
Have you seen his palm?
One palm is bigger than fivemen's head.
Are we mad?

(01:04:27):
Why is the?

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
conversation.
The gorilla walks with four,that's like thousand right
thousand.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
So essentially there's no way a hundred men can
take on a gorilla.
That's insane um this one.
I don't know if you saw it ahundred us people versus a
hundred british people yes, okay, so one one thing that someone
said I saw yami posted about it,talking about someone from
leeds.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
Someone said never pulled it.
Someone said that hasn't thisalready happened?

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
the civil war or the british are coming.
I was like, I was like, firstof all, in america, the amount,
the kind of food, the processedfood they eat.
Yeah, you want to compare thatto british beans?
Yeah, have you guys seen achicken from walmart?

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
so you say that's a good?
Because I think, yes, somegirls said.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Some girls said, steroids alone you need, like
she's like 350 year olds fromlike Chicago.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
She said an old woman , like a 80 year old woman from
Arkansas.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
It's like give a Madea uh, what pull up Americans
10 Floridians who fightalligators and crocodiles in the
swamp in.
Louisiana.
Yeah, are you kidding me?

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
have you ever seen like?
This is from West Virginia yoYo in the South, Because one
time I was in Kansas.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
You're looking at LA LA Erwan people.
I was in Kansas one time.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
And in Kansas, like the bars close like 11 pm, right
, but like there's something inthe South, like where you have
the bars, there's always policearound.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
Motorcycle gangs right the bars.
There's always police aroundright motorcycle gangs right,
yeah, like motorcycle gangs,like you're always fighting yeah
, I saw these two girls fightone time and I was like have you
been to waffle house?

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
I was like that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
I was like whoa, I don't think the british
understand american culture here, you guys use knives yeah, to
fight, that's the only thingthere's, just like the knives,
guns yeah, I'm like they'reanything, bro, like those fights
the alabama boat brawl aloneshould tell you that americans
have nothing to lose yeah thegovernment is constantly chasing

(01:06:38):
them.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
If you think you have it bad yeah come to america,
come to west virginia, go toalabama, go to mississippi you
don't even need a hundred youdon't need a hundred us people
yeah go to detroit, michigan,yeah, the south side of chicago.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
Okay, honestly, I'm just calling out names from no,
it's true, but there are placesin america that I would not step
in florida, yeah go.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
Florida is alone the the state of florida.
Go to the state of floridaalone yeah you're not gonna come
back outside a hundred britishpeople mind you is this
hand-to-hand combat, or is thisalso with weapons, because
that's even worse if it'sweapons then, like the brits,
won't survive no, if it's aweapons, for sure yeah, if it's
weapons that you have in yourcountry.
Even worse, you won't survive,but because you think the

(01:07:21):
americans are coming with hungryamericans gonna say please,
honestly, what are we talkingabout here?
eat you up, mind you.
I'm telling you this with brothe british are not coming let's
just relax, yeah all right.
Finally, guys, I want to talkabout kaisa and streamer
university.
If you don't know, kaisa is thetop biggest streamer in america

(01:07:42):
and is the lighting okay?
yeah, because it's dark no, yeah, it's good, oh, um, talk about
kaisen at becoming the topstreamer in the world.
He is the top streamer in theworld.
He opened streamer university.
I was so close to actuallyapplying for streamer university
because I feel like I reallywant to stream.
There's not enough black girlsor black women who stream but he

(01:08:02):
had 96,000 applications.
I had a six million, sixmillion applications.
Yeah, of what of people?
Oh, that's true, because he hadhe just reviewed 96 000 on his
stream that day, or like he hadthose dumped into his folder.
Six million people applied to beat kaisen.
I don't think you understand.
Like when people talk aboutsocial media now, like this is

(01:08:24):
the new thing, this is the newwave, like everybody is so
hungry and looking for jobs andthere's so much opportunity
within the space to grow thateven seeing that, I was like wow
, there's so many people who arehungry and ready and willing to
learn and just good luck toeverybody who applied.
I didn't apply, but for anyonewho wants to do social media in
general, there's so muchopportunity there.
Just start, um, just startposting.

(01:08:44):
I.
I saw a tiktok the other daythat was like, oh, everybody
keeps saying, um, just startposting.
I.
I saw a tiktok the other daythat was like, oh, everybody
keeps saying, start posting,start posting.
What does that actually mean?
It just means, post like post,what you're passionate about,
even if not for the success, forjust the fact that you're
posting, because you never knowwhere it's going to go.
There's so much, there's somany people in the world that
you're going to find yoursuccess in your little tiny
corner, on your big corner.
You just never know but, yeah,shout out to kaisa for even

(01:09:05):
doing that.
That's one of the smartestthings that's a good point he's
such a smart like player in thegame.
I think it's the way he movesis very, very smart.
I really like it before youconclude well you know, he's
building a school in nigeria Idid not know that kaisa is
building a school in nigeria sohe's building a school in makoko
I don't know if I like that yes, is that why you're telling me

(01:09:27):
yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
that's why I'm gonna talk about it, because, like I
saw the picture um see if I canput it here so here's the thing
about stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
I can't say that it's poverty porn, right that's.
But also there's two folds ofthe conversation there.
I worked in the non-profitspace for a really long time and
I my goal when I had mymaster's was I wanted to be in
peace and conflict.
I wanted to do some of theselike UN guided work of giving
back to the community, and oneof the biggest things that I

(01:09:56):
noticed about those spaces iswhite saviorism doesn't
necessarily have to be from awhite person, but also most of
the things people do are eitherperformative or they're not
necessarily addressing the rootsproblem of the issue.
Right, because in thissituation I'm like does the
school in makoko make sense?

(01:10:17):
If maybe he puts computers inthe school, is he going to put
no computers?
Is he going to fix the dam?
Could he fix the water issuesthere?
Could he give them better?

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
homes.
The school is on the water.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
You see what I mean.
Like it might.
What is the main issue on?
How does that, in the long term, affect the kids there?
For context, makoko is in theslums in nigeria, yeah, right,
and there's so many issues goingon with those kids.
Education, of course, is a bigfactor, right.
So also is hygiene.
So also is health.
So also is like finding betterhomes for them, the space in

(01:10:50):
itself.
Are we revamping the slums?
Is it just school?
And, of course, like there'sprobably like he can't do
everything, he can't fixeverything.
But for me, when I see stufflike that, I'm like is this the
best approach to a situation ofthis magnitude?
I don't know.
So that's why I'm like I don't.
I'm know, so that's why I'mlike I don't.
I'm really that's that's mythoughts on it.
At the same time, like it'ssomething good he's trying to do
.
It's like the same way mr beastlike said he was building homes

(01:11:12):
for different people in likedifferent parts of the world.
He's giving back water.
Or there are people like the unwould say they're funding women
to make clothes, but if thesame women you've been funding
for 25 years are still makingthe same clothes and they're
still the same place you hadthem for the past 25 years?
Are they actually growing?
Or is this just you feedingyour, puff your pockets for
another profit or for a tax umrebate?

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
okay, so I'm going to give you information okay, give
me information, right theschool is going to cost 2.4
million dollars that's crazy.
Yes, and I'm looking at thevideo right now.
Right, I remember seeing thisvideo and he breaks down the
build and the timeline, cost and2.5 is crazy, 2.5 is crazy 2.4

(01:11:56):
is crazy.
So phase one set up 75k 2 to 4weeks land selected and
purchased 500k to 800k a land innigeria, makoko abu.
It doesn't matter where it islooking at this, I'm just afraid

(01:12:19):
of what of the people he'sworking with, right, because
where does land cost fivehundred thousand dollars in
nigeria?

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
yeah, because this is a school.
The school has not been.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
This is the land permit and pre-construction
seventy five thousand dollarsfor a place in nigeria?
Yeah, in lagos on the island,it depends right it doesn't
matter I don't think we haveenough information because this
was a video like.
This is like I mean like fromhis stream.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
I mean I'm saying like I don't look the forward
space to land selected, purchaseproduct 800 000 permits and
pre-construction 75 000.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
I think when you see that one was that posted 24
right no, no, it was like twomonths ago.
Yeah, I don't think he wouldtalk more about it, because it
can be very messy.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
No, of course, Because he already said this out
.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
And I can imagine people seeing this and being
like someone said no, somebody'seating good in Nigeria.
No, someone's eating really good, because this is the that's an
absurd setup 75 000, like if youspend 75 000 on setup, you
spend 800 000 on the linedollars, that's crazy you spend
75 000 on permits andpre-construction right, and I

(01:13:38):
think it's about 1.5 milliondollars on actual construction
and then operation.
There's no number on it.
Yeah, so we haven't even gottento it, because this is supposed
to be a free school.
Yeah, how are you spending 2.4million dollars already?

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
that's actually interesting.
We're gonna follow that storybecause I'm really curious to
see how it's gonna end.
Curious, okay, guys.
Yeah, this is a really solidepisode.
We love you guys very much.
Thank you so much for tuning into.
Am I still at the podcast?
Um, it's gonna be solid seasontwo.
Just to let you guys know whatis coming up in this next couple
of episodes.
I'm going to be traveling a lot, which means sometimes you're

(01:14:11):
going to have solo episodes withjust me.
You might have solo episodes,we might have solo episodes with
just me.
You're going to have episodeswith me and a guest.
We're going to start trying tobring guests on the podcast.
We're going to have me andDonald have interact with other
people.
Me and Donald might call infrom other places around the
world, but the podcast is goingto come to you every wednesday
for the foreseeable future,until we get to 100 episodes,

(01:14:32):
because all we're going toalways do is try our best to be
the best we can be, and thatwould include, like if you guys
have any submissions, don'tforget to go on our website at
myslotcom, at myslotpodcom ormyslotcom.
Oh my god, I'm choking myslot.
Thank you.
So just you know, ask us anyquestions, drop your comments,
join us.
Let's hear from you.
It's going to be really funcreating episodes over the next

(01:14:55):
couple of months, just toentertain you guys and just have
fun and catch up and check inon anything going on.
We'll try our best to be astimely as possible, to react to
current events as much as wecould, but otherwise.
To react to current events asmuch as we could, yeah, but
otherwise.
This is the first episode ofseason two of am I too loud and
we're so excited you were herewith us and I can't wait to see
you next week wednesday foranother episode.
I love you very much, pod fam,and I'll see you later.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
Bye, guys yeah, you guys changed my life bye okay
dramatic.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
That was crazy that was like what you can't see it's
true, though it's so dramatic,I get any calls.
Oh, I hate when I open my phonewhen it wasn't doing a
disturbance like silencecrickets.
Nobody even sent me a snapchat.
That's not even fair, really.

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