Amani Talks Podcast: Are Christians still having fun?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Happen.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'm Kim.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
I really want to.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
Put her up, But.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Dude, okay can cry, Yeah, scratching doors and stuff like.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Girl, this is not the time for you.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
So that's your camera, So whenever you want to speak
into the camera, that's you. But we're just gonna be
looking at each other most of the time. Okay, Hi
you guys, and welcome back to the Amani Talks podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
You're here with your host Amani on.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
The podcast where we talk about our Christian topics and
deepening our relationship with the Lord.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
And look, you guys, I have a special guest with me.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Hi already, Loki introduced you on one of my blogs.
I was like, you know, I'm recording an episode and
her name's Tyrae. She goes to twenty eight nineteen church. Yes,
tell us a little bit about what you do.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Tell yees. So currently, I'm a teacher. I'm also a
graduate student, and I also just do everything that I
can to serve the Lords. Yeah. Of course, like you said,
I'm a small group leader, I serving children's church and
all of those things. So other than that, I'm just
you know, just I'll be chilling.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Tell us your experience with twenty eight nineteen church because it's.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Blowing up, y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
I know you guys have seen it so many Whenever
I talk about churches, people are always in my comments
visit twenty eight nineteen, and I just don't say anything
because I'm like, y'all, i've visited before. That's how I
met Tirai through one of her small groups. But yeah,
tell us about twenty or nineteen, because I know people
are so curious about that church because it's just, you know,
the pastor is just great, and it's a line outside

(01:42):
the door and you gotta part thirty minutes away. So
tell us what it's like going to that church, girl.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Okay. So I have the privilege of being a part
of twenty eight nineteen before it became twenty eight nineteen. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying. And so I feel like
right now, it's just it's really out of control. The
growth is out of control, Like there's no parking, like
we were struggling with the parking, okay, girl. But other

(02:08):
than that, like the Lord is doing a supernatural thing.
We see so many people come to Christ every week,
so many people, and so many young people. Like I'm
talking under thirty you know what I mean. Yeah, So
I think that just being able to see what the
Lord is doing in the youth and the young people, Yeah,
it makes it all worthwhile. Like all the struggling, struggling

(02:30):
for parking, struggling to get through the door, whatever, it
makes it all worthwhile because at the end of the day,
we're stewarding a revival and Pastor p coming with the
fire every time. No definite. Yeah, I absolutely love, love,
love love my church. I am a new woman. I'm
not the same woman that I used to be as
a result of being a part of twenty eight nineteen.
So I love it.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah, I love to hear it.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yes, love doing it, love the people that I've met,
and it's really really it's incredible. It's powerful. Worship is
fire every Sunday. The Lord is moving every Sunday. There
is a word every Sunday. Yeah, that's one to convict
my soul, snatch my edges, and get me together. Yeah, Yes,
I love it.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Yeah. The two times that I visited, I absolutely loved
it too. It's just always going to be a word
that not only speaks right into your situation. Because he's
a younger pastor in his forties. So his testimony in
the way that he connects with people is just really
top tier. You don't get that at a lot of churches.
So that's one thing I really do.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
I did like about twenty nineteen.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yeah, it's a really good church, and it's so many
young people. Really, it's a church of the young people.
It really is. I can't remember seeing nobody over fifty.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
And night, and if you do, it's it's odd, like
it's like oh hey, rama hey yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah.
But also is diversifying, and that's probably my favorite part
about it is because you want your church to look
like the Kingdom, Yeah, of course. Yeah. So being able
to see people of all different races, of all different
you know, backgrounds and cultures. I think that part is

(04:00):
just beautiful as well.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
Definitely. So what's your advice to people trying to get
in the building.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Listen? How early they gotta come Listen, I'm gonna tell
you this. You need to get there an hour and
a half early.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
And you guys have three services them three services, So
it's an eight am and eleven and a one thirty.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
It's an eight am, a ten okay, and then a
twelve forty five.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Okay, So if they want to go to the eighth,
they probably have a better chance because if you get
there seven am, are you good?

Speaker 1 (04:31):
No? Oh no, okay, because the people who get there,
the people who we get there, like if we're serving,
we get there at seven okay, there's already a line
at seven am. There's a line like down the hallway down,
it's a line. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
So I'm so glad I visited before it blew up
as well, because if I would have visited and saw
a line, y'all, I'm turning around, yeah, and you see
people do that.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Oh I'm not getting to see okay.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
But people because they want to get in there, because
it's really that powerful of a church.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
And you know what, it doesn't matter if you're in
the sanctuary and the overflow, like it doesn't matter, you're
going to feel the spirit of God moving throughout the
entire building.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Yeah, And I believe that definitely. So I definitely wanted
to talk. I had a topic in mind, and it
just fits with even how you look at it.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
You look so cute.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
She has got her hair did y'all?

Speaker 3 (05:22):
She are on her way to a birthday party, and
that just is on theme for what we're talking about,
because I really wanted to dive into the subject of
what it looks like to have fun as a Christian.
We see a lot of videos and topics and even
examples in our own lives of things that we have
to give up to follow the Lord, and that's accurate.

(05:42):
You do have to give up a lot to follow him,
but we never talk about how the Lord replaces it,
or the fulfillment that comes from the loss, or even
the fun that you genuinely have as a Christian, and as.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Someone that struggled with that very early on.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
When I came back into my relationship with him in February,
I was like, this is going to be an edifying conversation.
People need to hear what it's really like living it
day by day. So what's your idea of Okay? So,
first of all, do you think that in your life
right now, being totally committed, that you are still having fun?

Speaker 1 (06:16):
Absolutely? Absolutely? Okay. I also think that my definition of
fund has changed, my desires for fun have changed, okay. Okay,
So just to give you some background, so we thank
God that I'm saved, Okay, but I wasn't always like
really living for the Lord, like I have to be
honest about that. I like, you know, I got saved

(06:39):
at four, but I did not get discipled at four.
So I didn't get discipled until I was in college,
like around eighteen. But that was also the time that
I had got my freedom, you know what I mean.
So I was in commerce, Texas, willin like doing god
knows what, like thank god he didn't pull my receipts.
Like so, like I said, my definition of one had

(07:03):
to change. So back in that, back in that day,
like back in that time, I'm thinking, like, oh, party culture,
Like I need to be our partying. I need to
be all drinking, like I need to be outside like
you know, as the people would say, I need to
be outside. And so it didn't take me very long.
I've never been like a huge party person, like you know,
I'm never like I was never like super into the

(07:25):
whole club scene or all of that. But that was
because the way my family was set up. We I
have a very very large family, and we get together.
We got together every weekend, and every weekend it was bottles,
it was whatever we had going on, music, whatever, Like
my mama threw the parties. So I didn't have to
go to that club because my mama was known for

(07:47):
being the person to throw the parties, like you see
what I'm saying, and so I didn't have to worry
about any of that. So when I got to like college,
you know, I'm like, okay, like let me go to this,
let me go to that. We had something called racks
back in the day grip. It was a hot, sweaty mess,
just a breeding ground for COVID, just terrible. And we
had a good time. But I felt very quickly like

(08:09):
I was already saved Holy spirits already in me. So
I'm like this ain't This is not for me, Like
this is not where I need to be. This is
not for me, This is not where I'm supposed to be.
So then it got to a point where it was like, Okay,
I'm having more fun you know at the kickback in
my apartment, like you know, we just games, drinks whatever,
like that's what we're doing. No, Because one thing about

(08:31):
it is like I had to realize that I was
seeking something that the world could not give me. You
see what I'm saying, That that community that you're looking for,
or that like just comfort just being around your friends,
just getting away from life for a little bit. No,
it didn't come from the world like it was not.

(08:51):
It came with consequences, like you know, you get drunk
and you make a decision that you really shouldn't make,
Like you got to deal with them consequences in the
morning when you sober up, you know what I mean.
And so that just was it. It became. It was
very quick, and I thank god it was very quick
that that just wasn't fun to me no more.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Okay, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yeah, So that meant that I needed to find something else.
So me, I'm from a small town Kansas city. It's
about this big everybody know. Everybody Like if I say
I'm a Jones, somebody out there know to Jones's like,
you know what I mean. So that being said, I
wanted to explore, you know. So as I grew, you know,
in christ and really anchored down and decided, okay, I'm

(09:32):
gonna pursue you, I had to find different avenues. So
I started traveling. Like I started, I started going overseas,
like it was crazy. To my little family, they was like,
where are you going? What's going on? Oh my god?
But that was fun for me. It was very fun
for me to be in Spain and they love black
women over there, and I don't have to pay for
anything and I'm having time to It was very fun. Okay,

(09:53):
it was very fun. And then you know, I got
into different hobbies like hiking and you know, just doing
all of the things. But I also found community and
women who were also christ minded and who wanted to
have a good time, but they were not wanting to
have those consequences that we talked about earlier. Yeah, so
then at that point we started like just hanging out,

(10:14):
you know, and I realized that what I was actually
looking for was that intimacy that comes in relationship, not
just with you know, dudes, because I think, you know,
as Christians, we just want to be with the dudes,
like we just want to get married so bad, like
you you know. But I think when you got really
solid community, I can be sitting right here with you
on this couch and we can be having the time
of our life.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yeah you know what I mean. That's very true.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
Yeah, so that's that's my few.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
I really feel like when you're looking for fun, that
is what you're looking for. It's just community and friendship
and bonding time with other people. Because even when I
think about my party days, it was never, oh, I
just like to go out and drink, and no, I
want to go.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
Out and drink with my friends.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
That's how we genuinely bonded was by going out. And
then of course when I don't do that any more,
those friendships, you know, disappeared.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
But that's another story further day.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
But yeah, that's totally what you're missing when you're looking
for fun as a Christian, it's just a community. So
you're saying that your idea of fund turned into more
experiences hanging out with your friends, traveling.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Okay, yeah, that totally makes sense.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Absolutely, And then I also had to recognize, like what
is I had to really do some deep digging because
I was like, what is it that's really causing me
to want to feel like I need to be outside?
What is it that's really causing me to feel like
I want to be drinking? What is it that's causing
me that to just do these things that I know
that are not of God and do them repetitively thinking

(11:41):
I'm going to like have a good time, you have
a different result, And that wasn't what it was, and
what I realized was I actually wasn't necessarily looking to
drink or you know, be out or smoke or none
of that. What I really was looking for was something
to ease my pain. And so, like you know, I
was going through like depression, anxiety, all that kind of stuff.

(12:04):
In college. I was a first generation college student. I
was away from my family for the first time. I
just told you, we tight knit. It's a lot of us,
but we're really tight knit.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
So when I had to, you know, go all the
way across and be by myself like that was hard.
It was hard for me at that young age. And
so I realized that I was going out because of depression.
I was going out because of anxiety. I was going
out to mass I was using you know, alcohol or
whatever to mask those feelings that I had, And ultimately

(12:33):
I needed to address those things because when I addressed
those things with the Lord, I became more satisfied in him,
and it wasn't a big deal for me to not
be out, y know, doing whatever.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Yeah, definitely, I saw a thread. The reason that I
started thinking about this topic is because I was on
Threads and Threads has a really good Christian community.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Really, it really does.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
I just got into Threads because I was like, I
don't need another social media app.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
I'm over it.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
But I joined Threads because I just saw what people
were posting. I was like, wait, let me see what
this says. It's very similar to Twitter, but I don't know,
it's very different too. But anyway, great Christian community on Threads,
you guys, if you guys are looking for a Twitter alternative,
because I really hate Twitter. I hate black Twitter with
a passion. Everyone's just so much of a smarty pants.
They got the buzzword of the month and everybody's talking girls.

(13:22):
Stop saying narcissists. Stop stop saying that.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
But anyway, I saw this.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
Girl on Threads and she was saying I guess I
don't know if she was a new Christian or what
her story was, but she was asking, what are the
nightlife vibes for Christians? What can I go out and
do at night? She was saying, I don't drink, and
I want to go out and have fun, but that's
all that there is at night is the club.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
So give me some suggestions. And it really made me think, like.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Okay, when I came into my relationship with God. I
had to realize that, just like you said, your definition
of fun changes. I couldn't go wild with my friends
and just think that, oh I can go out with them,
but I'm just not gonna drink.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
You're gonna be miserable.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
That's a recipe for disaster, because not only is a
temptation all around you, you're also gonna feel left out
and then you're gonna feel like, what am I even
doing here? So you have to change your thoughts about
what fun is. And that's what I wrote to that girl,
Like I kind of quoted her a thread and I said,
not sure if this really helps, but I found as
a Christian that the night life vibe is just not

(14:29):
for you.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Night life is not your vibe anymore.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
You need to wake up early and have fulfillment during
the day so that by ten o'clock you're good.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
You're done, you know.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Yeah, And I think that. But I will also say, like,
if you have a good community of girls around you,
you can have a little something something in your home
that would be fun, Like you know what I mean.
You can hang out with your girls and it would
be fun. If you feel like you just have to
have like something going on at nine o'clock, get cute
with your girls, take pictures around the city, like yeah,

(15:02):
you know, do something like go walk around and see
what's going on, like you know, slight, see you look
at the lights, do something like whatever you feel like
you need to do, as long as it's with your
community of women who are like minded. And the reason
why I say that is because it's different when you're
going out with somebody that you know wants to drink
and turn up and do that. Yeah, do this, that's different.

(15:24):
But if you and your girls, you know, you just
want to go get you some late dinner or whatever
the case may be. I don't think that's an issue
or a problem with that.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Now.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Something that's really controversial right now is like the Christian clubs.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
Girl, I had that on my list, stop getting ahead
of me.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
I had on my list. It was number four. Okay,
so let me just back up.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
And because you talk a lot about community, right, so
that's something that the girls are asking a lot about,
and by the girls I mean me. But but no,
that's a really big topic as well. Because sometimes the
Lord will have you in an isolation season. And I
really do believe that when you first commit yourself to him.
That's where he has you because y'all got to get

(16:05):
right first before you get the friends and the boyfriend.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Don't focus on that.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
And even when I was finding my church, I was
really attracted to twenty eight nineteen at first because the
whole concept of if I want Christian friends and if
I want to get married, my chances are better where
it's a large black church. Yeah, you know, it just
makes sense, but that's not where God has He has
me in his total opposite right now. And when I
was praying and just asking, you know, God, confirm if

(16:32):
this is my church, he confirmed it in different ways.
But I just really realized one of the reasons He
may have me at this church that I would not
have thought or looked twice at is because Okay, stop
focusing on everything else, stop focusing on the friends, stop
focusing on the boyfriend, focus on me right now, and
that there are other reasons, and He's never going to
have you in isolation for too long. But for the

(16:54):
girls that are in isolation right now that don't have
the community, it might be a little bit harder. But
I also want to just get into the ways that
how do you find community as a Christian?

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yes, girl? Okay, So it's first of all, as a
thirty you know, early late twenties, early thirty something, it's
gonna be hard to find community in general. I think
that's that's just something that plays our generation. It's like
everybody's looking around like we need friends, but we don't
wanna go outside type thing, you know what I mean.
So that is difficult. Now for me, I did get

(17:28):
plugged into church. So like you talked about, like with
your local church, I did get plugged in with my
local church, and that was what helped me. I was
new to Atlanta, you know, I didn't know anybody out here.
But once you know, the doors opened up after COVID
and everything, and you know, I was able to get
you know, become regular in a church. Then that's where
I was able to find girls who were like minded. Okay,

(17:49):
because the issue is that you don't wanna get with
somebody that's lukewarm and you really, like, if you really
passionate about the Lord, you really trying to seek him,
you really trying to get to know him, you really
trying to lay your life down, it's not going to
be conducive. For you to be with somebody that's not
living the same way, you know what I mean. And
you talked a little bit about how God puts us

(18:10):
in the isolation season. He has to change your taste buds.
Like if you have been in the world, and you
have been you know, just you know whatever, even if
you're not just swelling, you weren't saved. Okay, you could
have been chilling, calm, but you were not saved. So
you have some things in you, some desires in you
that need to be perched. Yes, and you know the
Lord is going to do what he needs to do

(18:31):
to change your appetite. If you are just fresh off
the world, you was at the club on Saturday, You're
not gonna find like really intimacy with girls who are
talking about God all the time. You're gonna be like okay, yeah, cool,
like yeah, you know, like okay.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
So, and I'm glad you brought that up too, because
just because they go to church, there's a lot of
lukewarmness in churches too. So I do agree that church
is definitely I think your best option, your number one option.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
It's ground zero, like literally where everyone is.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
But even within the church, you definitely have to kind
of keep that eye out and keep your discernment on point. Absolutely, Yeah, definitely, absolutely, I.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Do feel like but I also understand like it's going
to take some time, Like you know what I mean,
because you can go to church and you can find
a small group and be like, oh, this is where
I'm going to be, and those girls are not for you.
Not because they're not Christian or they're not, it's just
that those are not your people. I've had that experience
as well, where I'm like, Okay, y'all cool or whatever,

(19:29):
But let me bounce around a little bit and see
if I find people that are, you know, just more
similar to me. Yeah, just like have the same interest
that I have, you know. So that definitely helps me
the small group thing. But and I think that, just
like I said, with the way the world has changed,
that's going to be your best bet. But I do

(19:52):
know about some things, like people are going on apps. Girl,
listen to me what apps? I had some apps? I
think it's called it's like Upward and there's another app
I have to look at ward. Okay, Upward and there's
another app. Like people are using apps to link up

(20:13):
and find friends.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
Is this Christian specific specific you're I mean, okay, you're
gonna have to send me them apps so I can
put the links in the description people that want to
go that route, because there are people that are just
you know, they'd rather do that.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah. Yeah, So I actually met a girl from twenty
eight nineteen that was on that app. Yeah, so I
was like, this is crazy, like, you know, let me
see what's going on. Yeah, oh wow, this is actually holy.
That's what it's called holy.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Okay, Okay, that's so cute.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
That's that's really cute. So yeah, that's I mean, you
know you listen, yeah, shoot all shots. Definitely, yes, yes,
so yeah, that's helpful. But also like just the way
that you normally we're in the Bible belt. So it's
like if you just go outside, if you go to

(21:06):
the park, if you talk to people, talk to people
at your gym, you may just find that they also
happen to be Christian.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
You see what I'm saying. It's not like a you
gotta look for the ones with the markets, like, no,
it's not that serious.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Yeah yeah, definitely.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
So I want to go back to what you when
you were getting ahead of me with the Christian club.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
So for people that are I don't even know how
to say it, just newly transitioning, or maybe they are
one full and one full out, or maybe they just
really don't know. I think they can find themselves in
positions like to where I was talking about. You go out,
but you just don't drink, and then you're miserable. You
go on vacation with those friends and then you just
can't do what they're doing and you're just like, oh,

(21:48):
I should have stayed home. I think there are people
that will look for the Christian alternative of the same
things that are out in the world.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
So there are things that I.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
Feel like are not edifying or are just like, girl,
what are you doing? But they say, oh, I can
do this, It's okay because we're proclaiming Jesus while we're
doing it. So the whole idea of a Christian nightclub,
because I saw that on social media earlier this year.
I think there's a one in Texas. I think it

(22:19):
was like Houston or something. I don't know, but basically,
the whole idea of a Christian nightclub like yay, your.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
Nay, okay. So here's the thing. If God can use
a donkey, he can use anything. So I'm not going
to crucify someone who is, you know, early in their
walk or wherever they are in their walk and taking
those steps to try to get closer to God, and
they decide, okay, I'm giving this up. I'm going to
try this now. For me, I'm not doing that. That's

(22:48):
just not for me, because what ends up happening is
you go to the nightclub and then it's like, oh,
I went to this nightclub. Now I can just I
could try to over here and just not drink, like
he talked about. I think it's if you're not careful,
and if you're if you're not discerning, you can be
someone who ends up like, oh I was just over here.

(23:09):
It was fun. We had a good time. I want
to now, I want to go to Magic City. I
don't know. So I think you definitely have to be careful,
but I'm not going to condemn or crustify anybody who
is trying to, you know, sanctify their lives. If that's
your step one, that's your step one, you know, and
God bless you for it. He's going to see that.

(23:30):
He's going to honor that and Eventually we're going to
pull you out to where you feel like this is necessary,
you see what I mean. But I feel like for
people who have really been walking with God and who
you know, have gone through a level of sanctification. And
that's not to say like these people are better than
these people. I'm not saying that. It's just a different
but I think eventually you will get to a point

(23:51):
where that's not your desire anymore. Like you don't care
about a nightclub when it's people out here dying and
going to hell. I can I can let go of
this desire to do this when I know that I
can be out here evangelizing. When I know that something
like that may take my witness, I'm not going to
do it, you see what I'm saying. So I think

(24:11):
it's a journey. It's levels to this, you know, And
I'm not going to Like I said, I'm not gonna
crucify anyone for their where they start. But as for
me and my house, I'm not with that now. What
I do like, though, is like Christian hip hop, you know,

(24:32):
like Christian music that's like it got a little bop
in it. You know. I was telling my homegirl, like
I'm not trying to drive to the gym listening to
Chicaga Glory, like you know what I mean. And so,
like I said, I think that there are great alternatives
for Christians, Like it's not this rigid lifestyle that people
try to make it, you know, like where it's like, oh,

(24:54):
I can't do this because I'm a Christian, Like you
can still enjoy life. I'm very much so enjoying my
I'm excited for this birthday party on bicycle too. We
don't have a good time, yeah, you know, but I
know also that I'm not going to have to deal
with you know, the residue or the next morning, you
know what I mean, where I've done something that I
shouldn't do or whatever, like you know, yeah, definitely.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
So you're saying that the Christian night club whole idea
might just be a slippery slope or it might just
be Okay, this is your first step, but you probably
shouldn't stay there.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Yes, So absolutely, if you go there, let's not stay.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
Yeah, And I totally get that because my whole thing
is there's a certain I think that people think that
there are elements that are God, and you can mix
those elements with other things, and it's okay because there's
still that God element. But I think that it's more
than just the elements. It's the vibe and it's the feeling,

(25:53):
right because we go we're emotional, not just emotional, but
we are humans that have so many different elements to us,
some players and everything, and we're not just like you know,
cutt and pace.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
We have feelings.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
We have like, oh, like this song reminds me of
this and this move, and I'm just like, I don't
really understand the concept of it. Like you said, I
think for a first step it's okay, but yeah, because
how can how can being somewhere out at night in
a dark room with blasting music not reminds you of
what you used to do five years ago?

Speaker 2 (26:28):
I just don't get how that's a separation.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
So I get like, okay, first step, but I wouldn't
a seasoned Christian.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yeah no. But let me also say, I haven't been
in a I don't have intertraction to something like that,
so I haven't been in there. So I've seen little
clips online where people are like really deep into worship,
like you know, really deep into worship. Yeah, So that's
how I'm saying like a first step, okay, cool, Yeah,
you start to understand that what you've really fallen in
love with here is the worship part.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
Yeah, and then maybe yeah, that elevates for you definitely.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Even the concept of drinking.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
I know that that's a very divisive concept also in
the Christian community because there are people that I say, why.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Are you drinking? And then there's just like drink and
not get drunk.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
So where do you stand on that? If you're not
trying to get drunk? What are you drinking for? Hello?
What are you doing?

Speaker 2 (27:22):
What do you maybe saying it? That's my.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
You thirsty?

Speaker 3 (27:29):
It's some tea, it's some juice, it's some mocktail, it's
some club soda. Listen, it's some sparkling water. That's I
don't I don't really get the justification of drinking not
get drunk, because that's what alcohol is for.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah, And I get that some people have like a
cultural tie to it, like if you go to Rome,
you do as the Romans do whatever, and even like
in Spain, like you know, they that's something that's really
part of the culture for them, And.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
I get that, But like even your culture is sin.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Yeah, like Eventually you have to get to a point
where it's like I'm going to do everything that I
can to follow Christ. I'm going to find my delight
in him. And I feel like once you get to
when you get to that place, and I'm still still
trying to get to that place, but once you as
you're working chwards, like when you really taste and see
that the Lord is good, the other stuff you just

(28:19):
you're willing to sacrifice it. And I feel like drinking
is one of those things that I was willing to sacrifice.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
Yeah, definitely, just because I'm all about and it's not
just about these rigid things you guys like we were
talking about. It's not all like don't go to the
night club, the Christian night club and don't even have
one glass of wine. It's all it's just about what
spirit are you feeding with everything you do in your life?
What spirit are you feeding? Because there are My spirit

(28:45):
of impatience is tested by traffic, Okay, So it's like, okay, well,
if I don't want to feed into that spirit, I'm
not leaving the house at four pm during rush hour.
I'm gonna get my errands done during nine am, you know.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
So it's all.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
It's always gonna be about adjusting your life so that
the correct spirit gets fed, and that, like Paul said,
all things are permissible, but not all things are going
to edify you. And a glass of wine after work,
sis is never going to edify. It's not gonna bring
you closer to God. It's never gonna bring you closer
to God. And the more you just kind of sit
in it and play with it and just have.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Okay, let me quick, Okay, can I have some water?

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Of course, I'm sorry, I forgot. Yes, I have a
love of water for you.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Thank you, my love, thank you. Mm hmm there your camera.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
I forgot where I left off. Me too.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
But yeah, it's not all about these rigid things like
we're saying. It's just about edifying the right spirit and
feeding the right spirit. Because I just did an episode
a couple maybe weeks ago about training yourself for godliness
because it does not come natural to us. The wine
after work comes natural to us, the nightclubs come natural
to us. And like I feel like anything that's sometimes

(30:41):
I feel like once you get a little too comfortable
in your walk, it's time for that level up list,
I think.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
So I think so. And also I think it's important
to know, like the enemy is tricky. He's very very tricky,
you know, and if you give him any sort of loophole,
you bet or believe he's going to take advantage of it. Yeah,
your one glass of wine a night can very quickly
become one bottle, and you know, just you're spiraling out

(31:09):
of controls.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Definitely.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
People definitely underestimate, first of all, how long the devil
has been around, Like you think that you have a
hold on something, and the devil done tricks? How many
girl he got, how many people under his belt? Like successfully,
successfully he took a third of the angels that were
already in heaven. And you think that you're just like, well, no, girl,

(31:32):
come on, you're not smart. You're not smarturer than You're
not smarter than.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
That's what it is.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
And it's not even about being smarter than, because you
don't have to be the smartest girl in the room.
You just have to be at least be in obedience.
That's what it's really about, and about just dying to yourself, which.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Is not easy.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
It's not easy, so that's why you have to train
yourself to do it. And there are just certain things
that I think that we should stay away from when
we think about fun for our Christian life.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
I think it's important to know your triggers because if
you know, if you hear one beat or one song
and it sounds like this and it makes you think
about like you talked about earlier, it brings you back
to those memories, you have to be okay with letting
that go.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Definitely, even music.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
If you know, listen, that's where my mind just went,
because what I can be listening to a harmless John
Mayer song, not all of a sudden, I'm thinking about
pop on a kid. That's where I'm and so I
just be like, for me, I know I can't listen
to a lot of secular music. I just I personally
cannot even the most harmless secular music. And now I'm

(32:38):
listening to it's a very slippery slope. It brings you
back there. So whatever your triggers are, and I know
my personal triggers are music, That's why I can't do
the Christian nightclub SYS because my trigger is music. I
love young Thug. My trigger is music, So for you
it might not be. But whatever your trigger is, you
gotta stay away from it completely, the whole realm of it.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Definitely. But here's the thing, and what you talked about
earlier was God. God is good. First of all. God
is good, he's kind, he's loving, he's good, and so
he's not going to take something from you and not
make sure that you're good. Like he's not going to
just leave you in the wilderness, you know what I mean,
Like think about it, Like, yes, Jesus went through his
forty days and forty nights, but once his test was over,

(33:25):
once he said no to the devil, he brought the
minister the angels to him to minister to him. So
it's like, the Lord is not going to see you
striving for him, trying to give your life to him
and not you. He's not going to do that. He's not.
He's if he sees you, you know, making sure that
you're trying to clean your music up and things like that.

(33:45):
The music that they have for Christian Girl is today,
It's much better than they had way back in twenty fourteen,
twenty fifteen. Like I'm like, okay, Cee, j okay, Francesca,
Like yeah, you know, when you just want to be
cute and just chill relax. You don't want on the list.
You're not trying to go up and glory right now,
you're just trying to chill.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Yeah, they have they have music for that. You know.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
That's very true.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Even when you want to be more upbe they have
a good time or whatever, they have music for that,
you know, and it's glorifying it into guy definitely.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
Yeah, I just want to play a little game. Let
me get the white boards out, Okay. So what I'm
going to do is I'm going to call out one
thing that the world would say is fun, and then
we are going to write down our personal Christian alternative, okay,
and then well, you know, just have a little.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Chat about it. There we go. This is on the fly.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
I haven't even come up with the categories.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Yeah, I'm just gonna kind of.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Okay, let's see. Oh goodness gracious.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
So the first one, we're gonna start off with things
we already kind of talked about a little bit. But
if you're someone that you love two go out and
just have a drink with the girls. You like the bar,
you like sitting at the bar, you like looking cute,
you like the nighttime vibe.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
What would your alternative be as a Christian.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yeah, okay, so this is the alternative to the night
life vibe.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
At stay down, okay, whenever you're ready, okay, okay, all right, one.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
Two, three, Okay.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
So you wrote dinner versus bar in a Christian fellowship
at home, throw a party.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Okay. So this is what I'm saying. And if you again,
I'm really big on taking baby steps, So maybe you
don't do the bar babe, Like, that's not what we're doing.
But if you and your Christian girlies go out to
dinner at night, you do a nine forty five, ten
o'clock dinner, okay, whatever. It's Atlanta, so you can find
somewhere that's opening, you know, and just be careful. And

(36:45):
I'm okay with that. I'm okay with you going to
dinner in a civilized.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
Place, okay, because I was gonna say, I don't want
to see you know where where hookah is on the
main menu?

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Okay, don't go like. This does not apply to Pasha. Yeah,
this don't apply to the.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
McK long because they have an NCK restaurant and the
McK lounge.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
This don't apply to the lunge.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
This don't apply to Like I said, anywhere were hookas
on the menus.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
If it's in the city, just don't go. Just you
go here at Sandy Swings, you know, and to your
you know, you can't go to the Mexican Hooters and
where the girls wearing the short shirts that don't counsels. No,
so this is just your because I really like getting
dressed up, like I love to get cute, go to karaoke, like.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Go to Noble, go to Umi, yeah, get like, do
what you have to do.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
But don't like we're not doing the night We're not
doing the bar. Yeah. But also I really love I
have my most like the most fun at home with
my people because when I'm at home, I'm going to
play the music that I want to play. I will
dim the light to make it cute, do whatever I
have to do, and I genuinely have a good time
because it's not about what we're doing. It's about who

(37:53):
I'm with. Yes, it is about who I'm with and
we will have a good time.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
So yeah, major k alert, I wrote, I put no
night life on top. I put an event in your
interest because one thing I'm really big on is I
like to do stuff like I want to go see
the ballet. I want to go see a show. I
you know, I went to New York just to go
see a Broadway show and they don't have as much
of that in Atlanta, but they do have it, like

(38:19):
right now, the Nutcrackers playing, go to a show.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Go.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
They have a lot of Christmas events going on, the
lights at the Botanical Gardens, a lot of stuff like that.
So plan something intentional. I think that's what it is,
intentional planning. And maybe you make your calendar and you
do your calendar monthly and you look at what's going
on in my city, so I can get out three
times this month at night purposefully, and you plan those

(38:42):
and get those tickets, girl, and you go.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
And then friend listen. I have found out about so
many things on event bright. I mean, of course we
got Instagram, you know whatever, but Evan Bike has things
that I would never think of going to, like.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
Okay, yeah, yeah, that's and free stuff too. And then
I also put church event because even if your church
doesn't have a lot going on for your young adults,
like my church doesn't really have that much going on.
It's a really small church, but there are other churches
that do and you don't have to be a member
of that church or go to that church just to
go to their young adults you know thing, or their

(39:19):
worship nights something like that.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Yeah, so just.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Always like plug into the churches in your area.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
I would say, definitely. Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
Let's see what is another one? Oh, okay, I mean
this is gonna be a really easy one. But okay,
what's the alternative to the alternative to what the world

(39:48):
sees as like a traditional Okay, well, first of all,
let's ask do you think.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
That there exists an alternative for a vacation? Okay, unless
you're married. Okay, no, you're not doing it?

Speaker 2 (40:02):
No, yeah, no, I don't drip up like that.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
Like yeah, no, I agree, because even if you get
separate hotel rooms, you're still about the country by yourselves.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Yeah, I agree. And you know, the Bible talks about
fleeing at the very appearance of evil, so not necessarily
being not even playing with it at all, and that's
just not something that you can play with. It's a
lot of scenes in the Bible, but the Bible talks
about fleeing from sexual immorality, like, so don't even play
like that.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
No, definitely, That's why sometimes I even get convicted about
being out and getting a mocktail because they don't know
if it's a regular drink. I know, and I'm not
convicted about it, but even the image of it sometimes
convicts me, like maybe I shouldn't have the fancy looking
motel and maybe I should just like it water.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Yeah I know.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
Yeah, so even that, and you would say, girls to moxtel,
you're not jeking. Who cares what other people think? It matters, Well,
other people see you doing act.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
She does matter.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
Like the word tells us that absolutely, because it goes
towards your testimony. It goes towards what other people would
look at you doing and say, oh, she's doing it,
so it must be okay, I can do it too.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Yeah, if your testimony matters, absolutely, Yeah, your witness matters.
Like just if somebody walks up to you, they they're
going to assume that what's in your cup is alcohol.
So it's just like, let's just not do that. I know. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
It's just it's so funny because that was a recent
conviction of mine.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
Because I'll be like, oh, let me just get a mocktail.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
I'm not drinking, but then I will look around and
people will recognize me and they'll come up to me like, oh, Amania,
and then I'm just like girl at a mocktail. You know,
you have to say it. And I was just like,
let me just stop, let me just stop. Okay, what
is an Okay? So here's one that's not specifically fun coded,
but I know the girls.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
Want to have an alternative.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
So when you're out vacation, even like during the summertime,
what do you wear when you go to the beach,
What what do you wear when you're at the pool,
because it has become so normalized. Our culture has normalized
the throng bikinis. Like I see girls at the pool
in my community when people's kids are right there wearing
the thongs to the pool, and I'm just like, you

(42:14):
were not in h in Spain, girl, You're not at
the naked beaches.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
Somebody's kid is right there. So what's the.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
Alternative to modesty when it comes to a bathing suit?

Speaker 1 (42:24):
Yeah, So these days they have the basenesses that are
like the three pieces where you can have the skirt,
does it put the skirt on, you know, like put
a little scarfhone and make it cute, like, yeah, you
can do that, It's fine. And also like, don't be
afraid to cut up in a one piece. Okay, I

(42:46):
feel like you can get a one piece and get
a little something that that you know, covers you up
right there so that your butt is not like out,
but you know, like you can be cute and modest
like that's not foreign. So you know.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
Okay, Next one, dating, What is your alternative as a
Christian girl to dating? Not and I'm not talking about
having sex. I'm talking about literally just dating people. Are
dating apps a good thing for you? Is it okay
to meet men that are outside of the church. I
want you to write that down and just think about

(43:20):
your alternatives to what the world sees as dating norms.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
The tops come off so easy.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
Child, you're trying to take the table with this, okay.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Okay, one, two, three, flip dating. I'm glad we on
the same page. Okay, So you put group dates versus
a one on one, no dates and major accounts ability period.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
So here's the thing. I don't believe, and I just
came to this revelation, but put in your I don't
think as women of God, we really have to work
as hard to you know, find relationships, husbands, et cetera.
We think we do. I truly believe that if it
is the Lord, if it is in the Lord's will

(45:05):
for you to be married, the Lord will present you
to your husband. And it's really just that easy. It's
really just that simple. Yes, And I think that dating
is something that the culture kind of put together because
it's fun, you know, like whatever, whatever. But I don't
think I don't think it's ironic or on an accident
that dating is not in the Bible, because it comes
with so much temptation, right, it comes with so much

(45:28):
So when we're talking about like going out for dates,
I do think that if you and your you know,
your friend group, your brothers and sisters in Christ, decide
that y'all want to go out together, you know, bowling, whatever, whatever,
I think that's okay, Okay. You know, maybe you think
that such and such as cute and you want to

(45:49):
see them in an atmosphere where he's or she is
interacting with a bunch of people, that's fine. I feel
like if it's a million people there, you know, all
six of your brothers and sisters and y'all all there
having a good time, go for it. You know, I
don't think that's a problem with that, but I feel
like that only comes after you have established that this
person the Lord is kind of illuminating them to you

(46:09):
and you're wanting to see them in different atmospheres. Yeah,
so that's fine. But aside from that, like just casually
going out dating blah blah blah because you're lonely or whatever.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
No, so you're saying no to one on one dates
as a Christian and we're in Like I said, let
me reiterate, we're not talking about sex. We are talking
about literally just going on a date, no one on
one's period as a Christian.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
And the reason why is because it's so much. It's
just you never want to be outside of the will
of God. And I feel like when you are just
casually going out meeting this person, meeting that person, like
what is your intention? Like you know what I mean.
And a lot of people say like, oh, you need
to know what you like and you need to you know,
just do this and do that so that you can
see what you like. But I just don't think that

(46:56):
that's necessary, and I think it's an open door for
the enemy.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
Oh definitely, yeah, yeah, who was saying this. I think
it was doctor Umar Johnson. But this concept has been
talked about before about how there is a reason why
we were not supposed to have sex outside of marriage
because you develop all these preferences that maybe the person
that the Lord has for you will not be able
to measure up to because now you're in your mind

(47:22):
thinking about the way this person did something, and even
if you take sex out of it, going out and
even okay, let's say that it's two Christian people that
have never had sex within their church, but one person
went out on a date with this person, and a
date with this person no sex, I would think you

(47:44):
was already in everybody face. Probably not, probably not right.
So I think it's also just about the world tells
us that it's fun to go out on a date
no sex. It's still fun to get dressed up and
go and have somebody pay for your meal.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
That's still fun. But is your fun within.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
The will of God? And I totally agree with you.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
I don't think that a one on one even because
there are people that will say I can go on
Christian Mingle and go on these apps and still date
with intention, But.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
I don't know how it is for the men.

Speaker 3 (48:21):
But as a woman, I couldn't you out looking for
a man? And when did God say that? When you're
on these dating apps, you are out looking for a man.
And God never told you to go out looking for
a man. Ever, He's never led not one woman in
the Bible to go out and look for her man.

(48:43):
So even that is like, I don't care if it's
no sex. I don't care if you're always at a
public place and he's not picking you up and he'll
know where you live.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
You still out looking for a man? Says you're out
of alignment.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
Definitely.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
I wrote brother in Christ to husband, and that's really
there's really no in between. I've told my friend that,
Let's say I go to a church to visit and
a guy there.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Thinks i'm cue and he wants to talk to me.
He asked me for my number. I'm saying no even
to that, because why do you want my number? And
you don't know me.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
You don't know me, but you want my number. So
you're going based off of just looks. I could be
the most look warm, I could be an atheist just
looking at just trying it out. Let's see who's in
church today, and you ask me for my number. You
don't even know me, so you could be going on
a date with an atheist wasting your time. And no,
I want the person to ask me for my number
or even asks to just kind of like see me

(49:41):
outside of church, to already know me in some capacity,
Like did you pray before you ask for my number?
Did you ask about me? Did you ask other people?

Speaker 1 (49:49):
You know?

Speaker 2 (49:49):
Amani?

Speaker 3 (49:49):
Like what is she up to look me up on
social media? I don't know, but it's just like, yeah,
I don't even want that, like you just try and
go based off of looks.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
Yeah, I think you do need to have someone that's
very intentional. Yeah, you want somebody even from the jump,
somebody that's very intentional that's looking for and you want
to make sure that this is somebody that's looking for
a wife and not somebody that's cute, like you know,
not somebody that that's just gonna be arm candy for them.
You want somebody that's looking for a wife. You need
to be asking about you know, what's going on, what's

(50:20):
going on behind the scenes, et cetera.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
So definitely, no, definitely, you have to stay weary of,
like we said in the beginning, when you're looking for
friends or you have the desire of marriage, even when
they're inside the church, you still have to have your
intennas up and okay.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
So I'm sure that there's going to be somebody that
hears you say that and who says, okay, Amoni, how
do they How are they going to get to know you? Yeah,
if they don't get your number, what are they How
are they going to get to know you? How are
they going to know you know, if you're a marriage
material or whatever. If they don't get to know your personality,
how are they going to do that? Yeah? How are
they going to see you? You know me? What is

(50:57):
that going to look like?

Speaker 3 (50:58):
So this is how I logically think about it because
there is really no alternative, like just one plus twenty
people two. This will be a man that the Lord
puts in my path with some kind of purpose. So
even if it's not within the church, because I do
some stuff outside of my church that's kind of like
some evangelism work in my community. And the Lord's gonna

(51:21):
place him there, just like he placed me there. The
Lord is gonna place him at my church. He's gonna
place him where he has the opportunity to observe me.
It's not gonna be the Lord is going to be like, oh,
well you missed her.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
Once, never again.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
Too bad for you, like not knowing that he works.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
He's gonna be intentional with placing my husband in the
same places that he places me. So it's always going
to be a situation so where he will have the
opportunity to observe me, ask about me, pray over it
right before, because once you start asking about somebody now
people like, oh he like her. Before you even do that,
you're gonna pray about it, and you're gonna be like,
I really do see Amani's character, and I see the

(51:59):
way that she moves, and I don't see why this
couldn't at least be somebody that is within my interests.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
So how should he approach you? He should?

Speaker 3 (52:12):
I really, just like you said, group dates, I think
the first step will always be him at like I said,
he's gonna ask about me, and he's gonna be like, well,
let's go out, like, let's have some kind of young
adult meet up. Let's go bowling this to He's gonna
do something like that, and he's gonna be. And here's
the thing too, A lot of women have the idea

(52:33):
now because a lot of men and the devil did
a number on these men.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
Okay, he just has.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
He's taken away a lot of their leadership, a lot
of their masculinity, a lot of their pride, a lot
of their self esteem, and so a lot of men
just sit on the sidelines.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
They don't even approach women.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
But that's how you filter out a lot of men too,
because I don't ever want nobody that's too that doesn't
have enough confidence to approach me.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
He's gonna be a leader because he's gonna lead the family.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
So he's to be a leader in that situation.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
And he's going to get the group together and say, hey,
you guys, let's get in the group chat and let's
go bowling Thursday night. So he's gonna take charge in
that situation. And that's totally how I see that happening.
And if it's not within my church, like I said,
he'll place the Lord will place my husband in a
position to where he gets to observe me over a
certain amount of time, and but it will still be

(53:24):
I think a group situation because people have certain formalities
and they have their ears on when they're in church
or they're in the community, but just some more relaxed
kind of situation.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
He'll wait until he sees me.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
And that as well. Personally, I think that the Lord
would have to make my friendship of marriage, like I
need to go from friend to Mary. And the reason
why is because I feel like when you go out
on dates and you you know, like when you're really
trying to get to know somebody and you know your
intention is to date them, there's a mask and I
don't want to I don't want to deal with that

(53:56):
at all. I feel like when when you're friends with
somebody that comes all the way down, you really get
to know them for the nitty gritty and you know,
just get to know them for who they are.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
So for me personally, like we'll have to be that's
my bro.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
Brother in Christ brother.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
Oh my god, that's not that Oh my god, Yeah,
that's me.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
No, definitely, because the world tells you that dating is
just a part of having fun, but it's just yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
God is too intentional. No, tell me. The man that
knows the number of hairs on your head don't know
what kind of husband you need. Without your input. Stop.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
Yeah, definitely, let me see if I can think of
one more than what kind of ended there?

Speaker 1 (54:42):
Okay, fifty four minutes?

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Okay, perfect? What's something can you think of?

Speaker 1 (54:46):
What?

Speaker 2 (54:46):
What's something else that the world says it's fun?

Speaker 1 (54:52):
Joe, Mmmm. I think we talked about so much.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
It's like if we can think of, well, we'll probably
just end it there. I think we talked about so
much that I don't even have another like concept like
what the world versus you know, what the Bible says

(55:21):
it's fun. I think more of the story, hold on,
let me put these down somewhere. Moral of the story is,
there's a lot of things that have to get removed
from your life, and sanctification is definitely a process. It's
not all gonna be cut out right in the beginning.
It definitely will come with your maturity, your closeness with.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
God, all of that.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
But number one, there will be a removal process, but
the Lord will always add and replace.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
Number two.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
You talked a lot about community, how big community is,
and then number three is just finding the alternatives putting
it as your intention. Yeah, because the Lord is very intentional,
like you said, he knows what you need. He knows
what you thought was fun, and he's gonna give you
the alternatives. You just have to be open to it.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Listen, you need to read your Bible, Okay, before you
try to have fun and do all this and do
all that, like, get to know the Lord that you're
trying to serve in the first place, because as you
get to know him, you will find so much satisfaction
in him that you're not looking for satisfaction in the world.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
Yeah, read your Bible very true.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
Read the Bible so as far as to say that
when you're first committing your life to the Lord and
really living or living in full surrender.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
You might not have fun and what you think.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
Oh even the Christian version of fun, because the Lord
is removing you and putting you by yourself to get
you close to him. And then there's seasons for everything.
There are seasons for everything. But you will find fulfillment though.
You'll always find joy, peace fulfillment. Because even when I
was out in the world having fun, and we talked

(57:01):
about this, when when I was in this small group,
I used to have nightmares, y'all.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
And I thought that that was just a regular part
of my life.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
I thought I just have bad dreams, and they would
be like sometimes I wouldn't even want to go to
sleep because I knew I was gonna have a really
bad nightmare. And then when I broke up with that
man and I gave my life back to the Lord,
I have not had a nightmare, said y'all.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
And I'm telling y'all nightmares for years.

Speaker 3 (57:24):
So there are different ways that the Lord warns you,
and I just, you know, I just wasn't listening. But
also I also think that it was just deep seated
anxiety from me living a life that I knew I
was not supposed to live. So even when you're out
here having fun as a Christian, is it really fun? Sis?

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Right? You really? Yeah? Are you really at peace? That's
that's that part. That's that's what it is.

Speaker 3 (57:47):
TYRAI thank you so much for coming on the pod.
I enjoyed having you so much. Definitely, I was a
part of Tyree Squad at twenty eight nineteen and it
was really, honestly a good time. The Lord just you know,
put me in a different church and I'm doing other
stuff during the weekends, but I would definitely pop.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Back in very soon and catch up with everyone.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
Yes, yes, I definitely miss everyone soon. Well, thank you
guys for watching and we will see you guys later.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
Bye.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
Perfect. Oh my gosh, that's really nerve wrecking.