Building Futures and Inspiring Hope: The Moss Family's Vision

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Charles Bender (00:02):
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of Hope.
I'm your host, Charles Bender.
We're so excited that you'vetuned in to hear from local
South Florida leaders who aremaking a difference in our
community and region through ourcharity Place of Hope.
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We're the largest, most diversechildren and families
organization spanning Palm BeachCounty and the entire Treasure
Coast.
Our goal is to help those weserve find healing and

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restoration, leading to abrighter future.
Since 2001, place of Hope hasserved over 25,000 children and
youth in South Florida.
Place of Hope is a faith-based,state-licensed organization
providing programs and servicesto children, youth and families
to end cycles of abuse, neglect,homelessness and human

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Ambassadors of Hope Placing Hopein a Child's Future.
Welcome to Ambassadors of Hope.
We are excited today to haveour good friends Scott and
Katharine Moss, as well as AlanBrown.
As you know, we like tohighlight great people in our
community that are doing bigthings for Place of Hope.
This trio of good friends hasbeen doing things for many years

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now.
I'm just going to jump rightinto it.
Give a little intro aboutyourselves.
You know background aboutyourselves and why you're
involved in Place of Hope andwhat you're doing.
Scott, you can start us off.

Scott Moss (02:21):
Thank you, great to be here, great to be with Allen
and, of course, kate Moss, andwe'll start off there.
I work for Kate and the familyto make sure that she's happy at
all times, which is pretty easyto do.
She's a great lady and run abusiness with my family and
wonderful people that we workwith, moss and Associates, which

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we're a general contractorconstruction manager, and we
also do utility scale solar.
We do this business in SouthFlorida, tampa, dallas and
Hawaii as far as verticalbuildings are concerned.
As far as utility scale solar,we do it from Florida to Nevada
to Virginia.
If you get down, I think aboutthat triangle, we have roughly

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4,000 employees.
Oh, so just a small littlebusiness, small little business,
small family business.
About 19 years.
It started with me, my dad anda computer and my brother joined
about a year later and we havesome awesome people that make up
the team you sure do, includedAlan.
He was a team member thissummer.

Yeah, we're going to hear about that for
sure, Kate.
What about you?

Katharine Moss (03:25):
All right, my name is Katherine Moss and I'm a
stay-at-home mom.
I've got three kids, and two ofwhich are in college now and
one is a senior in high schooland I found a place of hope just
at the right time, when I hadteenagers and they were not too
happy with me.
So I had to go out into thecommunity and find some kids

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that would appreciate me and Icould have some fun with and
make some change with.
So I have embraced a place ofhope and found such a passion,
such a loving community beinginvolved here.
Just I'm so grateful and sohappy to be part of it.

And I'm pretty sure all teenagers.
We all feel that way about ourteenagers at some point.

Allen Brown (04:11):
Yeah, I'm sorry.
I'm better out there.
Oh sorry yeah.

Alan, what about you, buddy?
Tell us about you I mean it'sAlan Brown.

So much to tell.
How much time do we have?
No, I'm just a young man whowas down in his luck and I found
the amazing people, a place ofhope, and from there it was a
drive to get better and create abetter outlook on life.
And once I was able to do thatin a place of hope, they let me

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find the amazing people at Moss.
Oh man, I'm getting choked upbecause I just love the
environment that I'm in.
You know, it just feels socreative and loved, so that's
awesome.
Yeah, that's why I'm here Justto keep pushing that out there
and hopefully get more young,young people in there and, you
know, just create a great areafor everyone.

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You know, just want to makecommunities again.

And I have to correct you.
You are not just a man, you arethe man.

Down there.
Okay, I'm not just a mom.

I put that away a long time ago.
Lisa taught me to take mylittle box of gifts off the
shelf and use them.
So you can't be just a man, yougot to be the man.

Oh man.

Okay.

We could literally just stop the show
right now and think about it andlike roll back and look at the
even what you just said, whichwas not pretty rehearsed or
anything that you know thefamily, the community, how you
came to place hope met the love,and then you met the love of
the Moss family and that's howthey run their company and it's
like it just shows how this isjust such a perfect mixing of

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the corporate and thephilanthropic and the charity
world and the people helpingbusiness, and I mean your, your.
Your story is just amazing.
You know we we told you in veryhigh regard You're going to go
big place.
So tell us originally how youcame to find place hope and how
it's had an impact in your life.
We'll start with you, kate.
How about that?

Okay, so I received an invitation from
Renee fader.
I had worked with Renee andDavid at St Paul Lutheran school
.
Our kids grew up together.
We have a Moss foundation golftournament down at Trump.
David fader was the GM there.
Alan, you've been down there,right yeah places amazing.

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Yeah, pitches with a trash can,so something that it is every
year at the foundation we giveout checks to our favorite
charities that have to do withchildren, education and veterans
.
As we're giving out the checks,there is one raffle that we do.
That's a $5,000 check to acharity of your choice.

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Well, lo and behold, david, ofall people, was the winning
raffle.
So he called his wife, renee,and he said what charity would
you like to give the $5,000 to?
And she said, of course, placeof hope.
So I didn't know anything aboutthis because at the time I
wasn't at the tournament, butRenee called me out of the blue

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and she said hey, I want toinvite you to this luncheon.
You'll probably know a lot ofthe ladies there.
It's for an organization calledplace of hope and I had never
heard of it.
And I came and a young man spoke.
I was very moved by his story.
He's a young man that waswalking the streets with his

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little brother in East Boca,eating out of the Louis Basi
trash can at night, making surethat his brother got to school
on time, and then he got toschool after that and he would
pick him up and he's basicallyraising his brother on the
streets and I can't rememberabout the mom or the dad, but I

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was taken with tears, of course,and then I started to look
around the room and I realizedthere were a lot of women and
men leaders in the room that Ihad met through serving as
Junior League and the PTA andthe church, and I thought, wow,
I know these people in this roomand if these are the people

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that are supporting thisorganization, these are the
movers and shakers that I'vealways looked up to in doing
volunteer work.
So I was intrigued by what I sawand I wanted to find out more
about the organization, and so I, you know, after the luncheon I
ended up doing a tour at Placeof Hope and I was just.

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I met Lisa, I cried on hercouch, I told her my whole story
.
I was a mess, but I just thepresence, the faith, something
came over me that just wasunbelievable and I just wanted
to be a part of it.

Thank you for that.
That's awesome, Scott.
What about you?
Kate brought you in, there yougo.
That's the short end of thestory, right there.

Scott Moss (09:03):
Yeah, my five foot three blonde in my kitchen told
me this is what we're going todo.
I said yes, ma'am, and that'show I got, that's how we got
involved.
And when she told me the peopleyou know it's all of you know
that old saying you're theaverage sum of the people that
you hang out with, right?
And when you hear about thepeople that are involved with

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this, you're like, okay, youdon't have to do much betting,
they've already done the bettingfor you, right?
And so I'm a big trust personand you know a lot can be done
with a strong base of trust.
And so when these people trustthat the organization is going
to first take care of the mostvulnerable people that are out

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there and then also be goodstewards of people's treasures,
right, and those two combinationdrives this incredible amount
of trust that you see at Placeof Hope.
And so that's what Kate saw.
And then she said you're goingto do this and I said yes ma'am
Gotcha.

Yeah Well, I mean, that's one of the primary
points of this whole showambassadors of hope, because
that's what you're talking about, the ambassadors that are out
there that make Place of Hopewhat it is.
And so they look and say, oh,charles, lisa and Maya, because
we're on the actual paid team,but no, no, no, what is what
Place of Hope is is God'ssovereign hand.
And then all these people whoare awoken to or awakened to the

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mission and get involved andmake it even possible to do what
we do.
And you guys went from that dayor that time, which was not
even that long ago, just a fewyears right, and look at now you
guys are doing pretty mucheverything with us.
Everything we do you guys havea hand in.

So can't thank you enough.

All right, my friend, what about you?
What about you, alan Brown?
Tell us a little bit about howyou came to us, and so forth.

You know, I wasn't very dark place in my life.
I was living on my car.
I didn't know if I even want tocontinue anything.
Really, you know, I was justsearching for something, you
know.
So I was at FAU but notuniversity or people don't know
and it was like a little townhall meeting that they have and

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I wanted to know more about whatthey would be doing for mental
health, because that's oneaspect of my life that I think
that if I didn't have therapy itwould have.
I would have been a totallydifferent person than I am today
.
You know, the man I had I amtoday five years ago was not the
same person at all.
I should do that to the littlebit of amount of therapy I had.

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So I wanted to ask them like youknow, are we going to have one
therapist and what are we doingfor that?
And one of the presidents wasactually in the board, I didn't
even know.
She pulled me aside and she wastalking to me and I was letting
her know, yeah, I'm living onmy car, but I still want to do
something.
And she pointed to me to somepeople called Vista Nova out

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there in West Palm, and that wasa little further out than what
I could you know, drive all dayand come back to FAU and they're
like I think we have someone.
They're like do you by chanceknow place of hope?
I was like I've never heardthem.
Can you get me in touch?
So they got me in touch andlike, literally that same day I

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was called by Ms Teresa, msFinley, ms Terry Finley.
They called me to the, did ameeting with me and they they
would hear my story and theywere like yeah, we want to get
you here.
We want to get you here, we wantto get you some help.
And they delivered.
They delivered the first momentof that, that light that I was
looking for.
They were there, you know.

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And then I met some amazingpeople like Mr Rebecca, ms Lisa,
and it just kept having megoing like, yeah, I got to keep
going, there's no reason to stopnow.
Then Mr Rebecca is like hey,you, you say you're an engineer.
You know there's a company outthere called Moss.
See, if you want to do a littleinternship with them, you know,

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I did my first, firstinternship out of four years of
college, didn't know anythingabout the company yet, didn't
know the people.
So I'm going in a little scared,a little frightful of what's
going to happen, but hopeful atthe same time.
You know, and the type of lovethat I, that I received just to

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get into the building.
It made me happy, to the pointto where, if I had to wake up at
four o'clock to work, I'd wakeup at two, ready to go for the
whole day.
And I'll do it.
I'll do it again the next week,next day.
I didn't care, because it wasthat great, awesome.

Yeah, Good deal buddy.
That's awesome, Scott.
Talk about a little bit, fromwhat I understand, of your
journey as starting as a laborerat some point in your
construction career to becomethe CEO of Moss.
Obviously it's an inspiringstory and share a little bit
about the leadership about that,but also about the leadership
qualities and the values thatyou bring to the company that

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have contributed to the overallsuccess of Moss.

Scott Moss (14:11):
Yeah, that's a good story.
Thank you for the feedback.
We strive for exactly that, aspeople feel super welcomed and
it's a hard job, right?
You wake up at six thirty inthe morning and if someone's
willing to wake up that hard andwork for that long, that's the
whole point of the business,right?
So thank you for the feedback.

(14:32):
Yeah, I was seventeen and I madethe mistake of being caught on
a couch and my dad walked up andsaid you will be at the Miami
airport at six thirty tomorrow.
Make sure you have boots on anda t-shirt and some jeans, and
they'll give you a hard hat.
And I said, oh, okay.
And so I worked as a laborer onthe Miami terminal A, if you

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walk through the terminal AMiami.
I helped build theinfrastructure, the structure of
the building, and I was part ofthe concrete crew, and so it
was a good lesson about doingsome extremely hard labor.
It taught me I really wanted togo back to school and actually
learn so I could manage, andbeing out there all day, that's
a tough job, that's a tough job.

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And so the business.
I worked my way through anothercompany, centex, as a project
manager, and Bob left there in2003 and I left, maybe three or
four weeks after he left.
That's Bob Moss we're talkingabout.
Yeah, bob Moss and my dad, andhe had a great career which

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helped catapult Moss, and so westarted the business twenty
years ago.
The qualities, the values weactually didn't come up with
until thirteen years later.
Part of my journey was I had tofigure out why I was going to
be away from the family and mywife and also what was this all

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about, because it couldn't bejust about money.
And so we went on a quest,january twenty twenty two
thousand sixteen, to figure outwhat are going to, what's our
values.
That we're going to is going tobe no matter if we're in the
construction business or inselling some sort of widgets.
What values are going to be allabout Moss and what's our core

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purpose?
Our core purpose is empoweredto create the exceptional, and
so that means every person intheir position is empowered to
create it to create theexceptional for the client, for
each other, for a tradecontractor, for a community, and
so, with that, people are setfree to use their talents to

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make the best best of it, if youwill, and they can do it with
these three values.
First, honor relationships, careabout the safety, well-being
and success of our families andbusiness partners.
And that word well-being issuper important because it's
just not.
You know, clearly, you have tokeep everyone safe.
It's a more obligation than thebusiness we're in, right?
But well-being means not justif you just showed up to work,

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but how are you arriving as awhole person, right?
And in that whole person isn'tjust are you okay, are you or
are you set up to be successful,right?
What studies have shown overover the time period is
well-being ends up driving amuch more engaged workforce and
team.
And so if you really focus onwell-being as a company and, by

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the way, it's this study onlycome out like three months ago
then you're going to have a muchbetter success of having an
engaged team, which is prettycool.
So the next one isentrepreneurial spirit embrace
opportunity, overcome challengesand innovate, and so that
drives our team to kind of thinkoutside the box.

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We know you have your valuesright.
When someone tries to orsomeone overdoses it, right?
And so, entrepreneurial spiritpeople think out of the box a
lot, and so that's what they'llblame it on.
Sometimes You're like, well,okay, you're over the guardrails
, but I know, understandentrepreneurial spirit, you're
going to get back in theguardrails.
So that's kind of fun.
And then the last one is anhome to my father, because he

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just has so much energy.
It's called contagious energyand that contagious energy is
what he felt when he walked inthat office the first day.
And that's you're going to workhard because that's his
business, right?
This business is a businesswhere someone's opening the gate
at 6.30 in the morning and thegate may never close, right,
like at F1, the gate neverclosed for three months, right,

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when we were finishing up thatproject.
Number two is you can be nice.
In this business I know it'snot known for being a nice
industry you can be nice and wekind of demand people to be nice
to not only one another but tothe client, to the trade
contractors, to each other,right.
And lastly, you can have fun.
One exclamation mark, right,not three one.

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That means you know we got tokeep it to where it's fun that
everyone can have.
It's not.
Everyone's version of fun is alittle different, so you have to
kind of be okay with thevariation of fun.

So when you were talking to your story earlier,
how you got started, I mean Iasked a question but then you
said it and actually know theanswer and our stories are
similar, like when I got started, my dad was in the elevator
industry and he ended up owninghis own small company, but prior
he worked for a big company andI went to work for them and
they did the same thing with me.
You know, first, like I thinkthey called me greenie and then

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they put me to work stack andrails in elevators and
counterweights and man 18.
I mean it was.
It was good workout, but boy,did I not like it all that much.
It made me go back to school,the same exact thing I'm like.
I got to go back to school andsaw a couple of these guys that
were only like 35 years old andthey looked like they were 90.
You know they've been working sohard.

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So anyway, it just made melaugh inside.
But tell us a little bit aboutand you can all kind of given
some inputs here because I knowwhat you were just working on
solar and so forth but just someof the cool projects.
You mentioned one because youknow I'm a big formula one fan.
But tell us some of the coolprojects you guys have done over
the years or might be evendoing now.

Scott Moss (20:05):
There's roughly 120 projects going on across the
system at one time.
So when people say, hey, whatdo you have going on, I'm like,
well, how long do you have?
So hopefully I have plenty ofbattery in that camera and also
the audio.
So I think one of the one ofthe neatest ones is formula one,
which is bund on in two phases.
We built a track and half thegarage one year and then that

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and finish the, the sweets andthe kind of everything above the
garage this past year and it'sbeen a fantastic success for the
area.
What people don't realize aboutF1, in essence, that creates a
super bowl actually times twoevery year in South Florida,
which is which is pretty, prettyfascinating.

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Oh yeah, another another greatproject that we're Set to finish
over this next, next year so,is we're building a Saint Regis
in and Sarasota, which it'll bethe first kind of five star
that's in in Sarasota.
There's a Ritz there, but it'snot gonna hold a candle to do
this and and the kind of giveyou idea how opulent it's gonna

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be.
It's gonna have 25,000 squarefeet of pools and and lazy
rivers and stingray Petting,petting zoo it's.
It's gonna be pretty coolthat's.
That's a really cool project,you know, and, and when you
think about solar, you know somepeople think about solar on top
of a warehouse or they'rethinking about just maybe a
small field I think about 5,000acres and and we built something

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similar to that in Colorado,right outside or right south of
Colorado Springs.
And so there's a lot of, a lotof great projects that we do
that have huge meaning in eachone of the, each one of the
communities we we work in.
So Marlins ballpark is probablyone of my favorite ones, that
that we had a hand in that howdo you stay on the forefront as

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a company to be able to go from?

I mean, all you have to do really is go around
Broward and here and see you'llsee mall signs, right, and but
most of what you see is thevertical construction, the
commercial or some residentialbut.
But how do you add all of asudden, how do you pivot into
the kinds of things you justdescribed, like somebody has
caused, as you want to build anF1 track or yeah.

Scott Moss (22:18):
Yeah, so so that I'm gonna go back to the values
that on some people spirit right, embrace opportunities, right.
And so some people ask are youguys gonna continue to grow?
I said, well, let's go back tothe values and it'll.
It'll tell you what's gonnahappen.
Right, in order to not grow,we'd have to unembrace
opportunities, right?
So that's not who we are, andthat that F1 story is a great

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story because it is a story of along and so that honor
relationships always still comesinto this, because Bob and
Steven Ross who owns who ownsthe Miami Dolphins, is where the
track is they had known eachother for 25 years and and so
Steven had had a bad, a badexperience with a Contractor as
they put on the roof of thestadium and he called and said I

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need your help.
And and Bob said, okay, this isa good call.
And, and so we did the tenniscenter first there.
So we did the whole outdoorcourt facility, the big kind of
big pond they have out frontthere, or water feature, and
then we did all of theInfrastructure and set up the

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tennis, the temporary tenniscenter that's inside the stadium
, the first time for him.
And so that's how we ended upin F1 Now.
Now, this is how this works,right?
So that's the first job.
The second job is the trainingfacility for the Dolphins we
just we finished a couple yearsago, which, by the way, I'm a
big Dolphins fan, so oh God,thank you, that was.

that was a huge honor.

Scott Moss (23:45):
You know, it's all the training facility.

They get paid.
They get paid to train.

Scott Moss (23:51):
They work on Sundays , You're right you're right, um,
and, and, then, and then, ofcourse, we just we're finishing
up, are we?
We finished?
Or his office building, relatedoffice building in West Palm
Beach, and we're doing anotherjob for him.
So you see how the honor,relationship and also the
entrepreneurial spirit.

And trust.

Scott Moss (24:12):
You trust, yeah, and and what ends up happening is,
if you have an engaged workforce, then they then, at the end of
the day, that's what those,those clients, feel, and so then
they get honored by Gettingtheir work done on time and also
they, they get to use thosefacilities and monetize those
facilities that they need to.
It's awesome.

Yeah, american story, I love it.
I love it.
I like the entrepreneurial parttoo, Of course.

Scott Moss (24:37):
I'm Scott Moss.
I am Catherine Moss's husband.
That's my title.
I'm also the CEO of Mossconstruction work construction
management business and also autilities solar Contractor
business started 20 years agowith me, my dad and a computer.
My brother joined a year laterand we've hired some of the best

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people that work inconstruction.
Our goal is to make this themost rewarding place to work in
construction.
We feel like it's a moreobligation to also be a part of
the community that we end upBuilding physical assets into,
and what we also do is, ifsomeone's qualified and they
have the desire to be in theConstruction field, we give an
opportunity to be to aninternship, and I think we had

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two or three Placeful kids comethrough here and they've done a
great job.
We aren't so interested inbeing recognized.
We were interested in doing theright thing.
And what are we proud of whenyou're recognized by an esteemed
organization Like place of hope, that you're making a
difference in the community.
It's, it's an honor and thenit's also good for Good for our

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team members here to understandthat we're giving back in the
communities they live in futuresbright, with Place of Hope and
with Moss looking forward tomaking it, making a difference
in children's lives For theongoing future.
We all want our dollars spentwisely.
We feel like the dollars thatthat are given back, or the
contributions that are givenback the place of hope are used

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wisely, and If you'reconsidering a place to give back
to make a social impact, thisis a great organization to do
that.

One of the other things you guys do really well,
as you have a great internshipprogram, so maybe mention
something about that.
But then we want to hear aboutyour, your latest internship, so
tell us why, maybe why you guysdo that and yeah.

Scott Moss (26:24):
So the one constraint on the business is if
you get the opportunities right.
As you embrace opportunitieshave to have the resources right
and and and they have to be theright culture in order to kind
of understand that thewell-being and engaged workforce
kind of drives everything.
And so you have to.
You have to create theseleaders yourself over time, and

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sometimes there'll be leadersoutside that will get it and
they'll come searching for this.
But every year we, we haveabout 150 to 175 interns from
about 20 different schools.
So we go out to schools, we, weinterview people and then we
bring them into the, into thefamily.
For you know, if you thinkabout this from and I'll talk
about this selfishly it's athree-month interview, right.

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We get to see how people behave, we get to see how they handle
stress, we get to see how they,how they handle life balances
right.
And I'm not, or life demands, Iam not a big fan of this work,
life balance thing, becausewe're a little.
Work is work, is part of life,right?
You can't have a life withoutwork, right?
I mean, that's kind of how thisworks.

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That is the balance right, yeah,and, and I so, I so I saw this
life balance like you're gonnahave demands and Light in in
your personal life, in yourfamily life and your work life.
You're gonna have all thosedemands.
Now you got to figure out someway how to Sometimes it feels
survived through them and thensometimes it's thrived through
them and, and so that's how weview that, that that work life

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balance quote unquote.
And so that internship providesus with that, really, and what
we do is we stagger it so we'llhave freshmen, sophomore juniors
and seniors, so at all times.
So you'll have, you have someteam members that will come in
with the full years ofexperience, because they have
three-month internships and itkind of stacked up and at that

(28:11):
point they get it and they'reimmediately productive.
What we also do with this issuper organized.
So Alan will tell you he hadresponsibility.
He wasn't just getting coffeeand being treated like an intern
.
He's given responsibility, he'sgiven pressure, he's given
things that he needs to do forthe team and the team relies on
him to get it done.
We're super intentional aboutMaking sure it's gonna be

(28:35):
experienced they get value from,because we owe that to them as
well.
Then we, what we also do, iswe're being all of them together
.
He happened to be in Mississippi, we had people in Texas and
Arizona and and all other places.
We didn't bring them all toSouth Florida.
And we have a project engineerssummit, and so that's some of
the young engineers, or some ofthe young engineers they would
work with as a as they gofull-time, they get together and

(28:57):
they have a learning, they geta little company overview and
then they have a leadershiplearning moment and then they go
into often different, differentareas.
So he, if he was in the solar,he would go into the mechanical
area and learn all aboutmechanical Installations and
what he needs to look for as anengineer.
And so we do that for a coupledifferent reasons.
You build this camaraderie, soif he has a question, he can

(29:18):
call somebody else, another,another project, right.
And so now it builds this kindof intimacy with the
organization Sure get.
And then we give them technicaltraining on top of it, right?
So that's, that's the thoughtprocess.

I love it.
Now I know you've alreadyyou've, on your own, explained
like you've experienced the mossculture.
You've experienced the love,you've experienced the having
the responsibility, all thosethings kind of coming here.
How was did you enjoy this lastround?
And I know you're back, you'redoing, first of all, hang on let
me back yeah you're at FAUdoing engineering mechanical
engineering I tell you whatthat's impressive by itself,

(29:52):
because it's hard, couldn'tcarry your folders for you in
that world, so so.
So tell us a little bit aboutyour internship at Moss.

So my last internship at Moss it was well,
because I haven't been out ofFlorida since I've been alive
for the 24 years of my life itwas a huge experience trying to
understand the area I was in.
Thankfully, I had people whowere like adamant in about hey,
do you need this, do you needhelp here?

(30:21):
One, one person who was likethat, miss Constance Hayes.
Constance Hayes, she's theadministrator for the site.
She knew everyone and everyoneknew her.
She, if it was there somethingthat was wrong, see, would be
the first person I would contactand she'd like yeah, I got you,
I got to know what you need.
You did this wrong, but it'sfine, do it over here, you'll be

(30:41):
way better.
And Because of that type ofcamaraderie that I got from them
, I gave them everything I gotyou know.
So when they were like hey, canyou set up these meetings?
Can you Talk with the owners?
Can you make sure that thebecause they have any tracking
the equipment.
You know how, how easy this tolose your money as soon as your

(31:01):
equipment goes in.
And you have this, this piledriver, here for I don't know
how many days and you don't evenneed anymore.
Yeah, I was the guy to be likehey, your power driver been
there for a couple months now,we don't need it.

Move it away, you're right.

And so you know, even though I was up for the
challenge, it was a lot, but Iloved it.
Yeah, I loved every second ofit.
And when there was a periodwhere I didn't have it under,
like I didn't know what to do,Sam will come in or Francesco
will come in and he'll be like,hey, what's wrong, man, I can
see it on your face.
What's good?

you what's interesting about your answer
right now.
Your description is that youactually everything you just
talked about.
You spoke in a Circular fashionabout the core values of the
company without even mayberealizing you were doing it.
You didn't talk about thetechnical stuff, you were doing
it.
You talked about the corevalues of the company, which I
mean.
I think that that's what youwould want.
Obviously, they got to learnthe job and so forth.
In the long run, I'm sure youhope to work for the company

(31:59):
when you're all done and soforth.
But and some things you'lllearn as you go, but you'll, you
could potentially go in knowingall that stuff already.
That's awesome.
I love it.
It's working.

Scott Moss (32:09):
Another thing you worked on which I checked with
the team about, you so I got anupdate.
He worked on the plan of theday three month interview.
But yeah, yeah, he worked on theplan of the day, which I think
is one of the coolest thingsthat we do in that team.
So we meet with the owner, whowas very involved in these
projects, and we talk about what.
What do we plan on getting donetoday, what player we running,

(32:31):
so they know what play we'rerunning and in that way they can
understand what we're doing.
We do things totally differentthan most companies.
Most companies have one personthat knows kind of everything as
a journalist, and what he sawwas and we were talking before
for this is you.
You have these many crews comein and they're specialists and
so they're like little ninjas intheir particular field of area.

(32:54):
So they're super efficient andyou exactly needs to get done.
They don't need a lot ofsupervision.
His job is to make sure hekeeps in front of them and then
was able to tell hey, this iswhat these group of ninjas are
doing over there, so watch themright, and then, and then this
group is doing this and thisgroup is doing this, and it's
pretty, pretty cool to watch,and and so it's a bigger

(33:16):
responsibility and I love it andI'm a if I could add on to that
.

One other thing I was doing Along with plan today
was, like the monthly reportyeah, as well.
Yeah the monthly report.
You think it's simple until youstart trying to add all the
information and now budging getsinvolved.
Then you're trying to make sureeveryone can see exactly what
all the lines and items thatwere was paying paid for.

(33:42):
Like if For bought tape, tapewas on there.
We had made sure all everythingwas itemized.
And then another thing that Iloved about it was safety.
You, you know they had this,they have, you know, documents
of everything and it breaks downthe, the, the task that that's
being had, and then on the backis blank.
And I asked one of my safetyAdvisors and I was like, hey,

(34:06):
what this is blank part about?
They're like oh, that's theliving, this is a living,
breathing document.
So if something happens on that, on that field that is out of
the task area of hazards andstuff like that, we want you to
document it so we can put it inour head and like, okay, we saw
snakes that day, make sure theseguys get their snake girders,

(34:26):
make sure they protect it outthere.
Things like that made it reallyhappy for me to be there,
because it's just like that's alevel of Protection over someone
who might not think of thatexcellent, yeah, especially in.
Mississippi.
They didn't know anything.
They don't know anything aboutenergy.
Right, we're just talking withstraight farmers.
Yeah, yeah so when we're tryingto break everything down, when

(34:49):
we're like, hey, you do this,this, this, watch out for this
and watch out for thesesinkholes over here, they're
like, oh, yep, just see it now,thank you, thank you.
And then they're then, becausethey're farmers, they're like,
hey, don't forget, you got sometype of bug in here that you
need to look for.
Right, I've never heard of it,what's it called?
It's like a very tough littleSpider, like beetle, I don't

(35:11):
know, and it's like if you touchit like it's, it's real fast
and you can't just stomp out it.
You got to get away from it.
That's a very dangerous.
Anyways, what I'm saying is wewere prepared for and the things
that we weren't prepared for,we made notes of, and that's
what I loved about the wholeexperience.

You know what my experience would have been, in
that I would have been halfwaythrough and as soon as they said
snakes, I'd have been packingup and going home.

Well, I had a lot of guys from Texas.
They're like nah, you go awayfrom the snake, I'm gonna come
right to you with it, yeah,

Maya Elias (35:48):
Or even the smallest seed has the potential to
flourish into somethingextraordinary.
This month, our kids enjoyed avaluable opportunity to engage
with PBSO during career day atour kids sanctuary campus.
It was a positive and impactfulexperience, particularly for
some of our girls who previouslyheld negative perceptions of
the police Due to associationswith family separation.

(36:11):
This community initiativeplayed a crucial role in
reshaping those perceptions,fostering a newfound
appreciation for the police asdedicated individuals committed
to serving and protecting ourcommunity.
Thank you for listening to thisweek's segment on seed of hope
and please continue listening onfor the rest of this week's
episode.

So you don't have to look very far or dig
very deep to see also thegive-back side of Moss, the
philanthropic nature of theTaking care of the communities
that you guys do business, and Iknow that's a big part.
But I want to jump into Kate.
And I want you to talk aboutyour experience on the big run

(36:54):
it, which included Moss in a bigway.
Yeah but you know you were, youwere the the, the queen bee of
Taking a project on and makingone of our cottages down at the
Leighan and David Rinker campusso special and talk about what
drove you to even Think aboutdoing that and then take us
through a little bit of theprocess of how that went and how

(37:16):
rewarding that was and so forth, because we know you've blessed
a bunch of lives through it.
But what, how was that for you?

It was extremely rewarding and I first I have to
say that the reason why I lovePlace of Hope is because I've
learned from my corporate, mycorporate friend that I have at
my house, that Purpose andpassion drives everything that
you do and you have to havepurpose and passion and All of

(37:45):
the values and cultural.
You know All of the morals andvalues and the ways we go about
our business at work at Moss.
It's the same thing that'shappening at Place of Hope.
I mean we have decoratingninjas, we have food ninjas, we
have, you know, basket ninjas,we have all kinds of ninjas that

(38:09):
are working special teams atall times and we are.
If you're an angel mom orvolunteer, whether you're
raising money or you'redecorating a house or you're,
you know, filling envelopes forthank-you notes, you are
organically Able to do whateverit is that you feel is a need

(38:32):
for this organization.
And so it's, you know,contagious energy with
Entrepreneurship.
And if we have an idea I meanjust today we were working on
the hope bash and we were wewent to an architect's office
and we were looking at Anentryway and which we're gonna
go in to the hope bash and raisemoney.

(38:53):
But we were talking about otherideas that we have on the table
that are creative, and you knowwe just come up with these
ideas and then we pass itthrough leadership and they say
roll with it, do it like this Isawesome.
I didn't think of it.
So I love that part about Placeof Hope, because I am a
master's degree stay-at-home momand I have ideas, like a lot of

(39:17):
the other volunteers, and Ineed to feel like I'm producing
and you know make, you knowdoing something that's making a
difference and so that, for me,fulfills that void that I have.
So I feel like just as much asmoss puts into the Culture of

(39:37):
their people, place of hope hasdone that for me.
They've made me a publicspeaker, which I, you know, put
my feet in the sand.
I never want to do it, but it'smade me grow in ways that are
amazing.
You're good at it, by the way,oh, your so sweet, and so my big
thing is, when I get involvedin something I'm usually 110

(39:59):
percent.
So I came in I wanted to meetthe organization, I wanted to
see what was happening, I wantedto meet the kids, I wanted to
work with my hands.
So I first came to Place ofHope and realized, well, a lot
of these kids don't have clothesfor church or Interviews or

(40:20):
whatever, or they're wearing thewrong size or, you know, maybe
they've never worn the rightsize shoe.
They don't even know what sizeshoe they are.
It was really sad.
Or they were in the fields andthey're in their foot Didn't
grow the way that the 18 yearold foot should be.
So I first Talked to Charles andLisa and I said you know, we

(40:43):
need to get these kids someclothes, and I'm you know.
I said you know, I knowfamilies that have clothes and I
like to do design and if youcould just find a room for me,
I'll put together a consignmentshop and then I'll get the
volunteers in and we can Stylethe kids, we can make them feel
confident, and so they.
Lisa just walked me to thislittle room and there were some

(41:07):
basketballs and some boxes andit was really Not being used for
much, it was just empty space.
And I just showed up with atruck one day and they let me
Paint and, you know, put thingson the walls and bring curtains,
and I mean I had a ball justhaving fun decorating this

(41:27):
closet.
So we called it hope threadsand we had special Paper bucks,
kind of like monopoly money, andthe kids at Place of Hope would
come with their monopoly moneythat they got From doing good
things on campus, going to theenrichment classes, showing up
for therapy, helping another out, you know, working in the

(41:51):
pantry, meeting the guy thatcame from Whole Foods to take
the, the extra baked goods outof the truck and fill the pantry
.
So the kids at Place of Hopefelt like they were contributing
.
Then they came to my shop.
I felt like I was contributing,they were being built up and

(42:11):
you got.
You know you always have thesefundraising events where the
kids speak and they didn't haveanything to wear, so they would
come in and we would dress themall up and you know we had a
great time.
So that's where I started andand and that's where I started
to build the relationship withthe kids and I loved it and then
I was there a lot, because whenyou get donations you have to

(42:34):
go through the donations and youknow, I mean and everybody was
benefiting because Even thecleaning staff at Place of Hope
we would save the best for thekids and then we would again
either send them up north to theother Consignment shop or we
would give them to the cleaningstaff that was there.
So we were using everything,which was another thing.

(42:57):
Place of Hope uses all theresources all the time.
If a table's on the side of theroad, they will use it.
They, they I mean the handymanwill put cribs together and go
to Home Depot and buy extra woodto patch it together.
We use everything which I don'tlike waste no waste in my house

(43:18):
.
So that spoke to me and so Icould see that they were good
stewards of their money, theirtime.
I trusted them.
So I also like design.
So I was on campus working inthe store and and they asked me
to come over to the cottage andsee if I could help move around
the furniture to make it moreefficient in the Girls cottage,

(43:42):
the mom and babies cottage, andI started to look around and I
thought, oh, we can do this, wemove this around.
But then you know it's a kidscottage and there were lots of
kids that came through there andI honestly don't know when it
was built, but it needed a freshcoat of paint and the
dishwasher even though they hada dishwasher they took had two

(44:06):
refrigerators.
It was really nice but thedishwasher wasn't working and
you know, when you have babiesand bottles, you you don't have
much time.
So I started to look around andI thought, hmm, I have a
Drywall guy and I could call apainter and maybe I could, you

(44:26):
know, take out this banquet andand move this table and make it
more efficient.
So I just asked Lisa andCharles if I could get in here
and just kind of fix it up alittle and it begins.

I've heard this story before.
So it was no, simple paint upI've seen this story before at
home renovations.

I came home and I said I said just listen, sit,
just listen to my idea, just sit.
Here's a glass of wine.
And I said I need BrettAtkinson, and I don't know if
you know Brett Atkinson, he'sone of my favorites.

I met him.

He's so sweet he's the president of vertical
construction.
And I said can I have BrettAtkinson to Get me a couple of
guys To help me coordinate someof these subcontractors?
Oh, the eyes started rollingand he said just tell me what

(45:30):
you want.
Just tell me what you want meto do and I will do it.
So we started a team and all ofa sudden I was getting mossy
nails and I felt like a big wigright.
So I showed up and theyorganically, entrepreneurally,
left me alone.
And let me figure all this out.

(45:50):
We had cabinets donated, we gotdiscounts at Lowe's, we had
drywall donated, paint donated.
The community came together andit was amazing and I spent long
hours there, early mornings,late nights.
I saw the beautiful sunset overthe lake.

(46:10):
I saw the kids rocking in therocking chairs on the porch.
I realized that sometimes theoutside of the cottage was more
important than the inside of thecottage.
We I helped them with theirgroceries, they fed my puppy,
they walked my puppy.
I was allowed to bring a puppyin the house on my job site.

(46:32):
I Mean it was just beautifuland I had so much fun.
And then I had passion andpurpose and and what you don't
know about me is that I live,you know, a fabulous lifestyle
now, but when I was growing up Ihad a really tough childhood.
You know, I lived in a greatneighborhood with great parents

(46:54):
that were pillars of thecommunity during the day and at
night my house got very violentand and doors started swinging
off, the hinges and plates gotthrown at the windows and I
couldn't really say anythingabout it because my dad was the

(47:15):
president of the Quantas Club orthe bank manager, what you know
.
He was involved in everything.
But it was a really bad,emotional, verbally, physical
life.
And I thank God for place ofhope because when I was 15 and I

(47:36):
got tired of being knockedaround, I got very bold and
brave and I had called thepolice in my house off of Las
Olas Boulevard so many timesthat the police told me they
can't come anymore and they gaveme a card to the child you know

(48:01):
, ned, or whatever, theDepartment of Children.
I didn't even know what thatwas and I knew that if I called
those people on that card thatmy dad would lose his job
downtown at the big bank withthe big window, and then my mom
would be on the street, I wouldbe on the street, my sister

(48:22):
would be on the street.
So I honestly I suffered insilence, but I was really.
I had a lot of fire inside andit just made me mad and angry.
And I tell Lisa and Charles allthe time this is my testimony
had I known that place of hopewas available off of Boca Rio

(48:46):
Road, I would have taken a caband I would have gone there and
I would have showed up with mybackpack Because I went to St
Thomas Aquinas High School,which is a nice high school A
lot of people know it because ofthe football and I would take a
cab as a 15 year old and Iwould go to my other nice

(49:07):
neighborhood in Rio Vista, fortLauderdale, and I would sleep on
the floor with no, no furniturein my house until my house was
sold.
And there were cockroaches theretoo, because you know, when you
move out then there's no food.
So I was living in a house in anice neighborhood 15 minutes,

(49:28):
10 minutes away from my otherhouse.
My mom was so distraught overmy dad she didn't even realize I
was gone and I would walk in myuniform to my neighbor's house
and we didn't talk about it.
I just got in her car.
She drove me to school.
She never asked me.
She knew what was going on.
So me going through this, when Iam at Place of Hope, I people

(49:55):
might think I'm a woman ofsociety or I've got a nice car
or whatever.
It doesn't matter, I am in yourshoes, I know who you are.
I have been on alert since Iwas four years old.
I can read a room in twominutes and I know who's got my
back and I know who I can trustand I know who I can love, and

(50:17):
when people upset me, sometimesI have to put up big boundaries
because I'm a hurt person and Ican't be touched too much Like
you can't mess with me too much.
So I get these children and Ilove you.
I love these children and, and,and you know what's so
beautiful is that y'all all openup to me right away, because I

(50:42):
almost think you kind of feellike I get you, you know.
So, anyways, through thatconstruction project I scrubbed
on my hands and knees I swear toGod and I prayed in that place.
I scrubbed the grout and I wasjust.
I'm going on and on, but Ireally truly washed sin, I

(51:06):
washed anger, I washed so manythings away when I rebuilt that
house.
So I wasn't just rebuildingthat house for y'all, I was
rebuilding it for me and to thisday, honestly, I have a great
relationship with my father.
He never apologized Surprise,surprise but I'm not surprised

(51:27):
because I had enough confidenceand I looked him in the eye and
I said Dad, I forgive you, Iknow you didn't know how to be a
good dad or to love, but I knowyou love me and I know I am
loved.
So that, in a nutshell, longstory short, short story long, I

(51:48):
don't know.
That is why I'm involved andthat's why I have purpose and
passion for y'all and I justlove you.
That's it.

I love you too, miss.

Kat, I love you too.

There's a true love there, you know, I understand.

I got you.
So you're not just a man, justa guy.
I'm not just a mom, I'm notjust a person and I'm not going
to beat beat on the thing, but Ipretty much am a dang ol' good
girl and I work hard.
So that's my story and I'msticking to it.

There's not a dry eye in this room right now.
Thank you for Thank you forthat.
You know the Bible says refersto the power in the testimony.
That's what we just experiencedright here.
It's like the Holy Spirit justcome over this place.
Your testimony is powerful andthat will help lead people to

(52:54):
redemption.
That'll help lift people to newhighs.
You just heard it and you don'tknow this part, but there was a
very peaceful bunny rabbitright out the window sitting
right next to you.
And as you were, as you weretalking, he felt safe enough to
come over here and just hang outand maybe try to listen.

So he might actually jump in your car.
They're like you know, I knowMiss Katherine's here.

I feel her, I'll be around I it's hard for me to
public speak and of courseevery time I do and I expose
myself, I feel worried thatpeople are going to feel sorry
for me or think different of me.
And I know that I can.
I know that when I'm inuncomfortable space and I just

(53:38):
speak from my heart that God isputting me in that spot because
he wants me to go outside of thecomfort zone to share, because
really, if you look at me fromthe outside, you don't think.
You don't think these things.
And I think a lot of the angelmoms like from what I've learned

(54:01):
and we go on retreat so we cantrust each other and, you know,
build a better leadership team Ithink a lot of these women and
men that help serve.
I think they all have a storyand I think that's what makes
Place of Hope so special isbecause we care so much and we

(54:22):
want everything to work out foreverybody.
So we're all like-minded inthat we wanna do better things
to make life happier, you know.

We are so blessed by the team that we have
at Place of Hope the ambassadorship, the people that are
involved, the young people thatget to come be with us and be a
part of-.
By the way, I found out today,nobody's called you yet and
we're forming right now aleadership council, youth
leadership council, at Place of-.

(54:53):
Now, scott, you're serving onour CEO council for Place of
we're gonna have a youthleadership council, so we're
gonna make sure Joy calls youabout that, because we want you
on that as well.
We have these kids that comeback years later and they're
saying well, I didn't have a gymwhen I lived here, I didn't
have an enrichment center when Ilived here and I didn't have
this, so we wanted to get theirinput and so forth.
But it's interesting becausethere's when you and I first sat

(55:14):
down when we started talkingthere's a lot of different kinds
of ambassadors for the missionof Place of Hope and what we do
in the lives.
We together do in the lives ofyoung people and families and
trying to keep more familiesfrom breaking up with the kids
ending up in the system and soforth, and that's what we're
doing when we're building thishousing and so forth.
But there's all these kinds ofambassadors and we talked about
Moss and the company, but thenwe just got to hear you say what

(55:37):
drives you which I know ispartially what drives you and
which also lifts you andencourages us and keeps us going
.
But I can tell you after allthese years that is probably the
biggest blessing for me in myrole is the people that are
involved with us and that teamand the why behind it, and that

(55:58):
is the most exhilarating part ofeverything we get to do.
I was gonna just dump this lastquestion just because I don't
even wanna talk about anythingelse now, but it's important
because part of what we'retalking about here for
ambassadors of hope is from abusiness and a leadership
perspective.
People wanna know why thingsremain great as well.

(56:19):
I think you just heard a bigreason why Place of Hope has
survived and thrived and wecontinue to do more because
God's got his hand on us.
But all the great people andthe why behind what drives them
to be a part of Place of Hope,regardless of what they do and
their role.
But how does Moss stay on theforefront, the cutting edge of

(56:41):
things, and as you grow, how doyou keep those principles and
those core values?
It's tough because as we'vegrown at Place of Hope and staff
will make fun, that I hate.
When there's fingerprints ondoors, right, well, that gets a
little bit harder when you wentfrom one building to owning 45
buildings, right, but you stillhave to have those standards.

(57:02):
It's not always perfect, butyou gotta try.
How do you guys go about that?
Because now you're in multipleplaces too.

Scott Moss (57:07):
So yeah, you have to dedicate a decent amount of
time to just think and some whatI think I feel some businesses
make the mistake of.
They get busy, so busy withtheir head down and doing they
get kind of lost in the forestand they don't even realize in
the forest because they'relooking at just trees, right.
So we spend as a visionleadership team, as the top 10

(57:30):
people of the business.
We spend six to seven hourstogether in a meeting once a
month and it's offsite and thenwe really talk about first, how
do you make this a great placeto work?
Because we feel like thosevalues really make sure that
we're gonna be in perpetuity.
Right, we wanna make sure wethrive in perpetuity, and so if

(57:52):
we think about how to make agreat place to work along those
values, and then this is thebusiness challenges we have,
right, the way we look at it isthe values are in the middle and
this is Louise, who's one of mymentors.
She's a great lady, she taughtme this the values in the middle
.
Then you go mission what's yourmission?
You're on.
Then you go strategy.

(58:13):
This is how you're gonna get itdone, this is how you think
you're gonna get done and youhave to go structure, and then
this is a structure.
You need to get it done.
So, yes, if you wanna have 45buildings, you have to have a
structure to get it done right,if that's your strategy at 45,
you have to have a structure.
Then you infill with people.
A lot of companies just starthiring people and they're not
quite sure what they're gonna doright, and so then no one what

(58:34):
knows what play they're gonnarun.
They don't know what positionthey're gonna have.
So if you start with this kindof strategy, structure people
and it has to we iterate thisall the time, that probably
twice a year reiterate it.
The business has grown so itcan be kind of ideal on scale,
like in 2011, we were doingabout 175 million in sale and

(58:55):
work a year.
Maybe we had 142 people in thebusiness right, and now, 12
years later, we'll do 3.2billion this year.
So when you kind of think about30 times, how do you iterate
that fast?
And so that's the only way youdo it.
You have to do thinking time tofigure out what do you want,

(59:16):
and then how do you make sureyou have strategy instructor to
make sure that that's gonnahappen, and so it takes a lot of
time.
That particular VOT they'resaying they are saying is, if
you wanna go fast, you go alone.
If you wanna go far, you gotogether, right, and so going
together takes a lot more time.

(59:37):
And you're feeling it as a CEOof a growing business or a
growing organization and I'dlove the fact that I call it a
business and not an organization, right, because you guys think
about this as this, and abusiness thrives for perpetuity,
because the game of business isnot a finite game.
It's the beginning of thebusiness.

(59:58):
There's no end.
End is bad, right.
So once you think infinite,it's a whole different game.
Right, you're setting thisthing up for a longer, much
longer than myself and muchlonger for you, charles, and so
that's kind of fun.
It's a fun puzzle to kind ofthink about.
I think that's the way it lastsis.

(01:00:18):
It's not for how well, how muchmoney can we raise this year?
That's not the point.
How can we make thissustainable for the children and
the most vulnerable people thatwe're taking care of here?
That really is the point, andto a certain degree, we're doing
the work that needs to be donethat government necessarily

(01:00:42):
can't do or is not superefficient at doing.

Charles Bender (01:00:44):
Right, absolutely yeah.
It's our responsibility to handthis off one day when we're all
gone in the afterlife, and makesure that it's strong and
you'll do some version of thatsame exact thing with the
company, with moms, oh 100%.

Katharine Moss (01:01:00):
That's exactly why we felt so important to do
this capital campaign and theendowment and all this so that
the buildings are paid for andthat we're feeding the
individuals long after we'regone.
And that's what life is allabout.
If you have a great life, it isyour responsibility to help

(01:01:22):
others in need.
It doesn't matter if you have$10 and you give two of the 10,
it doesn't matter how much, butthat you are doing that and
that's gonna live on past us andthat will be so unique.
And that's why we have togather the people that we know

(01:01:43):
that care about these things asmuch as we do, to keep going and
gather them up and say let'stake this on as an army and
let's get this done.
You know we don't have muchtime, right?

Well, that's what I think of like.
Was there a better way to spendour days than to do what you
just described?
And it doesn't matter what youdo day to day for work.
You should live withintentionality and purpose and
meaning, and I know everybody inthis room does, and so I'm
grateful for that for sure.
Well, listen, thank you guys.
This has been.
This is, can I say this, thisis my favorite one that we've

(01:02:21):
done so far.
Can I say that you might haveto cut that out?

Allen Brown (01:02:23):
Anyway, what has been, Don't cut it don't cut it.

But we appreciate you guys.
We appreciate everything thatyou all do to just do what you
just described.
I don't even have to sayanything.
I mean you understand themission here and you guys
particularly you two right hereyou do a little bit of
everything and we probably evendrive you nuts with how many

(01:02:45):
things we have.
But you know, in leadershipthat's the thing if you're
really good at something, peopleare gonna keep asking you to do
stuff, but you never really sayno.
So a lot more to come and thankyou guys for everything that
you're sowing into.
And, alan, we know you're goingbig places, baby.
So you just keep going in thedirection you're going and we're
super proud of you and we areone grateful group of people.

(01:03:07):
So thank you for being heretoday.
Thank you very much.

Hey, I'll be bringing more people along with
me.

Scott Moss (01:03:12):
It's not gonna be me .
That just sounds likerecruiting.

It's not just gonna be me, it's gonna be a lot of
people around me, and I'm gonnamake it the forefront of my mind
to make sure that not only do Isucceed, but the people I bring
with me as well.

It's awesome, it's good Help lift others.
I love it.
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