October 2, 2023 • 35 mins
On this episode of America Stories, Jeff, Luke, and Jack discuss the reclamation of Boston by the Colonel George Washington. A lengthy seige took place, that included bombardment from navy vessels and the long awaited guns from Fort Ticonderoga. We also talk about our good friend Mister Whipple and his pyromaniac tendencies.
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What's she gonna do? Brother?When Jeff Townsend media runs wild on you
America Stories. Alright, alright,alright, this is Jeff Townsend. Welcome
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to another story, another America Story. I said, I'm Jeff and joining
me as Luke. I'm going toshare with you another Mark story right now.
Thank you, Luke. And that'sthat's how you do it. I'm
doing good. Yeah, did it. I'm just kidding him. You guys.
Uh. Last week, Okay,let's just started off the proper way.
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I guess. So this is AmericaStories. We are covering American history
in a light, fun I guessI got that backwards. We're covering America
Street in a fun, lighthearted manner, but yet educational in short form.
It's nothing that's necessarily going to behours and hours, but every week we
try to bring you another event inAmerican history. We're kind of moving along
at a timeline here. So lastweek we did a little bit of a
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deep dive. It was a shortone, but an educational one, fun
one into George w and the hellThat's saw George w Bush. George Washington.
We talked about his backstory and thenas we ended the episode, we
segged way where he was joining theefforts in the war. Did I sum
that up all right? Where weleft off. Yeah, so we're excited
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to kind of connect the dots andwhere he goes from there. So yeah,
like I just said, we justleft off he was joining the efforts
to help fight the war, andman, I'm excited to get into this
one. Actions about stuff's about topick up it is. Actually. Yeah.
One of the major things is,for most part, his staff officers
were chosen for him by Congress.Was the exception of if you're going to
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go to like build a team,right you like it's ideal if you're going
to go build a team that youhave, you're appointing these people on your
team leadership. Not the case you'resaying, oh no, no. For
the most part, all but twowere appointed to him too. He picked
what was a bookkeeper and his namewas Henry Knox and uh, but he
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had an exceptional amount of knowledge ofordinance like cannons and stuff like that.
They called him hard knocks that aleaf, yeah, very much. Because
he was promoted to colonel and achief of Washington's artillery. That's from a
bookkeeper to chief of artillery. That'suh, that's pretty So this is this
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is one that Okay, so Iguess I wasn't paid attention. Sorry,
is this one that he appointed orwas already appointed? This is one that
he got to appoint. Okay,So he personally had faith in this guy,
even though he wasn't a decorated militaryofficer. He thought that he would
be adequate to be behind the effortthat George Washington was going to and still
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so up up to this point theyappointed like his major generals and assistants and
everything. So Knox was like thefirst one that he got to pick himself.
And then he picked another colonel whohad helped John brightter on. No,
I'm just kid. It wasn't JohnBrook No, but we were talking
about him just before you rang usup. Or he's definitely gonna come up
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eventually, maybe not today. Butthe other he promoted to colonel was Alexander
Hamilton, who would later become presidentand he became his chief aid, his
CEA. Okay, yeah, yeah, exactly. So he then began his
march to Boston. This was,you know, kind of a big deal.
Everyone saw him immediately as a symbolof the cause. He was,
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you know, celebrated as he wentfrom place to place and greeted by anyone.
That's all because this was they hopedwould be the man to lead them
to victory in Boston. How arethey feeling right about now? I know,
like they just had a battle thatthey kind of held their own,
didn't. It's not gonna go downas a win. But it probably also
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was a quick realization that they're notnecessarily manned or experience enough at this point
to completely defeat the British. Yeah, so there's two things. Two different
groups of people had different thoughts.The people who weren't fighting, they were
excited because they thought, all right, this guy's gonna come in and immediately
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turned the tide. We're gonna winthis whole thing. The people who were
fighting, they were extremely wore out. They didn't want to do anymore.
And actually when he arrived, hegot there two weeks after the Battle of
Bunker Hill, they were a completelyundisciplined mess. By a time he got
there. What were they doing?What do you mean by that? Do
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you mean by that everyone was kindof just like slacking off. Things weren't
being built, like new fortifications,weren't being built and weren't being maintained.
The officers themselves in charge of themilitia, they were just kind of not
doing their jobs. In fact,at this point, the officers of the
militia were elected from the rank andfile soldiers. They elected their officers,
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so it's usually their friends and stuffthat they got elected. He then went
through and fired all those officers andpicked men that he could see that could
do the job better to run hisunder the lower level officers. That's a
way to make a statement. Yeah. He then he came up with a
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way of doing drills. This waspartially Benjamin Franklin's idea. But what he
did is he wanted the officers toidentify special skills in the privates and regular
soldiers. If they could find skillsthese recruits had, he would then yeah,
I'll be able to use them moreeffectively. But on top of that,
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he find out which officers were completelyincompetent and couldn't identify gills, and
this was a huge change in howthe army was being ran at this point.
What exactly how did he feel whenhe took over, Like, obviously
he's he's from a decorated background offact, participating and not. I guess
he wasn't in the British Army directly, but it had to be different for
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what he's witnessing. Yeah, sohe was definitely used to be working with
the more professional organizations and so hecomes into this and it's kind of like,
Okay, I gotta try to getthis you know, rabble back into
a fighting force. They were afighting force for a little bit, but
then after their you know, losses, they kind of disintegrated a bit.
A lot of people. Yeah,there was desertions some people. Actually it
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was a big problem is these wereshort term assignments, so a lot of
their their terms are coming at theend of the year, and so they're
just we're saying, well, wecould just ride out the next few months.
We're not getting paid very well,if at all anymore because of the
lack of funds. So they werekind of all shirking their duties and he
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had to get them back into theline. This is like the movie The
Replacement, So you're seeing that movie, but yeah, it's a wonderful movie.
Kind of it's kind of like setin the scene here of that.
So just to Diamens a little bitmore We've talked about this on the previous
episodes. These guys that are doingthis war have left their livelihood, him
himself included, right, George Washington, have left their livelihood behind. They've
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left their work, maybe their farm, their family, and it's getting to
the point where their term of agreement, which is like what a year,
is up. And so he's alsonot only is he taking over having to
build his own entire team and getthings he wants and kind of organized when
he sees things are a little bitof an unorganized mess, he also has
to deal at this thing and hangingover his head of how do I deal
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with all these expiring let's just saycontracts. It was quite the predicament to
be in and this was like ano win situation. He had to in
a very short period of time getthe army turned around and make a big
stride to get the morale backup.Was this sorry to cut you off in
the movie The Patriot, right,it all seems like I don't know somehow,
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like Mel Gibson was George Washington too. He was like everybody in that
he made, like the decision hewould be like if they didn't want to
be there, he didn't make themor for they wanted to go home,
he would let them. Was thatactually the case with mister Washington. He
was a little more strict about that. Yeah, if your urn or service
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wasn't up, you still were youwork for him? Yeah, and he
was going to make you work.In fact, one of the first days
he did after he got the officersreplaced and got guys that he lower ranks
filled out, because that was onething. They just didn't have a very
good hierarchy. There wasn't you know, lieutenants and then you know second lieutenants
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or stuff like that. He institutedthat. And so first eight is he
made to get back to work,and that was building new trenches, new
fortifications, so that you know,what had kind of fallen into disrepair over
the few last few months was beingrebuilt. What do you got our researcher,
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our researcher, Lieutenant Jack. It'shard at work searching something on his
screen. Yeah, getting ready.We're we be talking about like some of
the privateers that were involved with kindof like dealing with British mercantile ships and
things like that, British Navy.What one character one privateier I wanted to
bring up. Was a person bythe name of Abraham Whipple. He was
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a you know, kind of likea privateer part of Eventually, I think
he even became part of the ContinentalNavy. Did his family to have a
patent on the whiffle ball or that? Well, No, but interesting he
mentioned his family is that he's kindof like a distant relative to HP Lovecrab.
So if you're familiar with his withthe Cthulhu, yeah, books and
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things like that. As a littlea little nugget of information there, because
he's he got his start and likeprivateering earlier in the war at the seventeen
seventy two he captured and burned someBritish ships and that's it, It's the
way to get started. He hewas. He was immediately jumped on.
I was as soon as there waslike the American cause were against the of
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the acts early on there, hewas just like, okay, let's let's
do it now, let's do itnow. And he started like one of
the ships. His name was agas beat. James Wallace sent him a
letter I said that he was goingto hang him for capturing and burning that
ship, and the Whipple sent himthe letter back says, if you need
to hang me or you need tocatch me, And so he was.
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He was. He was. Hewas a wirey one. Not I wouldn't
guess that by checking out of hispicture. Yeah, he was one of
the one of the more prevalent privateersduring this time. He was ahead of
his time. He was ahead ofhis time. The fact there's actually a
song that was written about specifically him, The wild Thing, right he was.
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That's a more modern redition of it. You know, I think you
can picture that song playing every timehe rides up on the ships before the
ships were being burned. Well,yeah, he was definitely ahead of his
time. That's a heck of athing to just get into you, right,
I'm gonna burn some ships, gonnaburn some ships. I mean,
if you make that decision, youknow, you kind of know what you're
doing. There's no going back.If you're pointing it out, that's true.
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He definitely not back. He hadno choice. He had to join
the effort. Actually, is aboutthis point that they did approve more private
teers. Like Jack was saying,they gave privateering contracts to twelve ships,
and over the next few months theycapture and destroy fifty five British cars containing
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what food, mostly food, andso this was part of Washington's plan to
starve the British out. He hadto do it because his side was also
starving. Both sides at this point, facing hunger, desertion, scurvy,
smallpox. It was a rough siteforever. What time of the year was
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this when Washington did join in thosefirst couple of months, I don't remember.
Was this full out winter he ator is that later on and we
it's it's it's getting to winter atthis point because he's there. He starts
there in July. But getting everythingturned around, getting them in back in
line, and then starting the privateering. It took a few months. It
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was mid to lay October or somethinglike that. At this point, the
Thomas Gage, the British military governorof in Boston, is actually relieved of
command and his underlying general house.He forced man too though, yeah,
because he didn't break the siege.So like they were like were on getting
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results such a slow moving thing too, like this didn't this happened over at
length to time, right this thisthis phase we're talking about right here,
like it makes sure what they're doingwhile Washington and his men are they're building
these trenches. He's they're working onsome training and stuff, like, what
the heck are the British doing.So there's actually the reason why they weren't
able to do much to stop them. At this point, two thousand long
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rifle hunters had shown up and theywere keeping the British away from sabotaging and
the earthworks and stuff. So everytime they were trying to come out,
these riflemen would be firing at longrange. The British we're not used to
exactly. Yeah, this whole likeway of doing war was almost entirely like
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this. It was like subrofuge.After subrofuge, it was by work.
It was a totally different type ofabout The British also know that they have
to fight on more than one frontnow, and General Henry Clinton sails out
of Boston with eleven hundred men tojoin up incoming recruits coming to the Carolinas
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where they're planning pushing the war fromanother flank to try to disrupt the Patriot
Army, which was going to bea big deal later on in the war.
So they're splitting their forces out ofBoston. They know this siege is
just like going on and on,and they're hoping they'll eventually just wear out.
But in case it doesn't, theyhave to start a new plan of
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attack, and so that's where allthese men are going. Washington desperately wants
to attack during this winter. Heknows that the contract they're actually the inlistments
are almost up. The rivers willfreeze, and they figured that they could
cross the frozen rivers. But hiscommand staff, which was beholden to Congress,
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the people that were appointed for him, Tom, don't go across the
rivers, don't do that. Theysuggested a different plan of attack, which
he eventually relented to because he sawit as a means to gain ground,
but it was safe. And whatthey decided to do is there's what's called
the Dorchester Heights. It's about ahundred feet above Boston, just the side
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of it, and from there theybelieve they have even better shooting range than
what they had previously on Breeds andBunker Hill. The long awaited guns from
Taykonderoga are coming. It's like thedragons and pants. The people delivering these
guns presumable. It's still it fordebate. I want to not It's like
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it's conflicting stories. One person saysthis, and then literally everyone else says
they were in advance. So theguns are coming. So they've been waiting
for these guns, just like yousaid the Game a Thrones with the dragons.
So they're waiting for these guns.So they do take the Dorchester Heights.
It was a relatively small fight.I believe it was like six British
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soldiers died, and because it wasn'tlike a ton of people up there.
Once they have that section, theguns show up finally in March of seventeen
seventy six. These guns were capturedin May of seventeen seventy five, and
they didn't make it down to Bostonuntil there. Wow. So Knox was
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y'all put in charge of those guns, and his mathematical capabilities allowed him to
triangulate and target a bunch of theships in the harbor, and he began
shelling them for days, blowing themup. This caused an absolute chaotic evacuation
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of Boston by the British army.And these were like the guns and I
realized, are they big guns?Yeah? Yeah, that's I kind of
run a. Guns were apparently farfar more powerful than I originally realized when
we first talked about them. Thesewere like coastal battery guns. These were
designed for destroying shippings. Were theBritish evacuating two They were escaping towards the
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Carolinas and stuff like that and surroundingterritories they were going to. Uh so
nin where the term came pull outthe big guns came from. I mean,
if you could come, I can'tcome up with a better reason,
way, a better example of it. So I think this has to be
it. All right. Took themten days to evacuate, and that whole
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time they're under fire. Knoxes uhis fantastic artilleryman. Then after that ten
days escape, Washington walked into Bostonwith five hundred men and captured it completely,
ending the siege of Boston back.This was, you know, something
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that everyone was just elated to havehappened, and like it was like this
is what they needed to get themen back into the fight. Morales up
and no longer are we worried thatwe can't win, except for like,
you know, people who are reallyhigh up and people who have you know,
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knowledge of what's going on in theCarolina as they know this is still
far from one, but it's thefirst step in a long road that takes
a long time to get things there. Yeah, I was gonna say it
does take a long time. We'retalking about that throughout this episode. And
when we get to the part whereit's it's ten days to evacuate, you
know, when you think it waslike a battle, it seems so constantly
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hacked it. So I'm I mean, ten days of constant chaos seems like
a long time. Yeah, that'sa long siege right there. Sounds exhausting.
Well, I mean it really was. One thing that happened, or
some things that happened after the colonialarmy was they were kind of in like
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a war mood and they wanted toloot all the loyalist houses and stuff and
destroy them in Boston. Washington managedto clamp down on that and prevented any
looting or rioting, and he thengot all the local police, kept them
in line, who made sure thatthey kept doing their job even though they've
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been working for the britishest whole time. He made sure that everything kept working
in town and kept his men fromhad a bunch of lilians. You know,
it's something that happens with almost everyarmy at any time you marching into
a city that you just take andthere's just something that switches off, and
the human brain kind of a fascinatingthing to study and research what different it
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happens. To see that now withevasion of Ukraine on both sides, right,
it's like both sides just kind ofboth sides runner all the guns doing
things that you normally wouldn't. Wealso saw that with the Green Mountain Boys
when they captured they for your emailboys. I was also gonna I was
I was going to bring up,you know what war. You know,
it's difficult to talking about war withoutsome you know, some terrible stuff popping
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up. But I was going tojust bring up the fact that they may
have fixed some locks. I don'tknow if we're going to do a throwback
to the the tea Boston Tea Party, but they broke a lot of stuff
when they fixed some locks. I'msure was there some additional locks fixed,
Luke, I would actually probably notsomething about the Boston Tea Party. Yeah,
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So, like Yo, we weretalking about how they were they were
kind of doing hooligan actions. Berniethrowing a t over and port. But
they didn't burn those shifts like thatcrazy Whipple guys. That's true. That
would have been a statement, justlight all the tea on fire. He's
highly by the way. It brokethe law. I made that up.
I don't know he's flammable at all. But yeah, yeah, for sure,
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but try it to me. Idon't know. Maybe maybe, yeah,
the bags themselves did be They brokeone lot, they fixed it.
This guy's out there, Bernie ships, he didn't fix them either. He
didn't fix that, didn't fix theshifts. For sure. It makes you
wonder if you could like a nummixedwonder makes you like think about being in
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there, like being able to actuallybe like a fly on the wall and
see all this happening, this siegethat took ten days, and to see
what some of the like the leaderswere doing during this interesting to think about.
Yeah, there's I kind of wantto know, like what the like
the regular council people in Boston andwe're going now like just your ranking fu
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say about this. They were thankyou peacekeeping mission exactly. So you talked
about how some of the I guessi'll say founding fathers, but the people
in Congress. I believe you wordedit, were not did not want to
be very aggressive, and it kindof reminded me of him. We'll talk
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about it later. But like theCivil War, Ulsis Grant, before he
really got going and took over,it was like very slow moving and almost
to the point where strategically was adisadvantage because they played it so safe.
So it sounds like it goes backto here too. It's kind of what
they were thinking. It does feelvery similar to that actually, and uh,
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and you can also draw parallels withsome of the people who were quick
to action and did more crazy thingslike Sherman went in the Civil War.
Yeah, he set out to destroythe supply lines of the South very quickly.
And then if you compare that tosay, like Francis Marion, who
was ahead of guerrilla tactics in theSouth and during the Revolutionary War, very
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similar tactics. Yew. They wereyou know, cutthroat kind of people.
They were going hard at them asopposed to like the traditional slow moving a
slog of war that these others havepracticed. So I mentioned that Gage was
replaced by General Howe just before allthis went down, well, because he
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lost Boston. How was replaced byClinton, who had went down to the
Carolinas and he blamed they fall ofBoston entirely on how said, how was
it building up? And he wasn'tgoing after the hills. He let them
get the Dorchester Heights and he saidthat was why. Technically, that is
why they lost. You lose thesights. But it's kind of funny to
see them immediately throw another one underthe bus. Some things haven't changed they
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had. It sounds like we hada very good strategy though to take over
Boston, and we kind of playedto our weaknesses. Yeah, definitely a
good strategy to take that hill anduse those guns that we spent so much
time getting down there in order tosecure the victory. It was just funny,
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though, how long what if theeven every would have came, that
would have been so bad. It'slike they just would have some about wandered
off or got recaptured or whatever.But it's funny though that. Yeah,
if it wasn't for the fact thatBenedict Arnold ran so hard to get up
there to get to those guns,they would have never broke to see thinking
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like Benny, Benny d Now that'swhat they call them Minny d b D
for short, and what would havehappened then, you know, if they
didn't take Boston and all those peowill Dessert at the end of their listen
should not come back. You know, definitely this up too. But the
importance of that fort Yeah, thatwas like six episodes. So they the
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gun guns finally came out. Thoseguns. Yes, so well go ahead,
Jacko Lanard. I was just gonnasay that, you know, because
you know, this is like abig victory by itself, but it's also
you know, yeah, because you'relike yelling, you're so excited. So
those of you that are listening,uh, we we we we work on
the audio and quite great length becausesome reason when we call him Samuel L.
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Jackson, because he just yells intohis microphone. Anyways, you're excited.
I'm excited. I was excited aboutit was almost excited about when I
were John Bracketts. But yeah,you know it not only is it's like
a big win just in general,it's a very symbolic win by getting Boston
kind of it's like a come fullcircle here at this point, and it
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was what was the year long siege? Is that right? It started April
nineteenth, seventeen seventy five March seventeenth, seventeen seventy six, so ten months
and some odd change there. Yeah, long siege and a very important location.
So yeah, really really important battle. So what do we have any
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other interesting things to bring up onthis topic or any other side debts or
anything. I will say this was, you know, a beyond being a
big victory just for the cause,it was also proof in Congress's ability to
pick their leadership for this, pickingWashington to lead and hither his staff and
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then you know, trusting Washington's abilityto pick his understaff at lower officers.
They This was big for both Washingtonhimself because he got to prove himself in
battle as a cape well leader ofthe full army, like he had always
believed himself to be. And thenit was also a major thing for Congress
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because now they could point to howtheir new commander in chief can actually beat
the British. And so this wasa big boon for everyone's like egos is
like kind of a weird way ofsaying it, but really their ego was
pumped up from all this, andso this was this was big for everyone.
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How everything starts to really change nowbecause everyone believes that. No longer
do they believe that they're pretty sureinvincible. They've proven that they're not invincible.
About the British are they feeling rightnow? Obviously they decided to evacuate
Boston. They're bad. They feelingreal bad. They're really looking forward to
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trying to take the South, theshift their focus. Yeah, they're preparing
a grand military coming back in theSouth. They're also going to be doing
more combat in the North, butfor now they're they're focusing there. They're
most of their generals, most oftheir men to the southern stay colonies,
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preparing to undercut what just happened.They're truly picking their battles with this.
Now they're all going to get hungup on Boston for the moment. No,
not for long, but for alittle bit. They are mostly just
throwing each other under the bus.A little bit and a little update on
what Abraham Whipples up to during thisDuring this whole siege, he went from
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in June seventy seventy five, hewent from capturing a frigate from the British
and heading on down to Bermuda topick up some gunpowder from various places and
just kind of transporting that around.Then by the time the siege was over,
Boston was taken. He was,he was he was commissioned as a
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captain in the Continental Navy. Wherehe is. Uh, well, we'll
do some updates on Abraham Whipple throughoutthe coming years, because he keeps he
keeps up his h his Shenanigans,because he's gone to the Bahamas again and
he's fighting some British garrisons and capturingsome more British ships. He's take a
pyromaniac. He I guess he's kindof like those like American pirate kind of
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guy. I don't know what's up, Okay, I like, yeah,
Abraham Whipple, it's like Kid Rocks, American badass, but he's aired American
pire. Okay, what else wouldyou get anything? Any other you guess
pictures you're looking at, Jack,besides the guns, the massive guns,
the guns show is he realized AbrahamWhipple. Yeah, I know, I
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figured that it was muted. Okay, all right, let's take a quick
describe him to us. You'll haveto get a share a picture of this,
but described he is heavier man witha big hat, with a very
very big hat like a top hatslike no tricorner and okay, yeah,
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he kind of looks like I guesshe's almost like a Napoleon. It's a
little a little bit picture of theQuaker. Oh you know what, he
actually just look a little a littlemore like that. Now they mentioned it
to do a side best side atthe Quaker. Oh guy, okay,
yeah, Jack, Jack was overthis, I say it up in the
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corner okay, okay, oh man, does he not have hands? So
it's in his jacket? What's heup to you? And his hands in
his pockets or jacket or he's gonnahand in his jacket. And I think
that is a pistol? Is heholding that pistol style? All? He
actually got up on the barrel area. It's quite it's gotta saber. But
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it was no slides, I guessit. I don't know he is.
You can't see, but yeah,I'll definitely uh I'll put a picture on
both that makes to the quicker andwe'll see you you know what would make
this The people listening can't can't seethis, but in the background you see
some ships. You know, thatmight be more It might make more sense.
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That's kind of like his thing.Yeah, ship has to be in
there. He's gonna go He's gonnago blow that thing up. The only
problem with him is he just blewup every ship, whether it was the
American or British not I made thatpart be well. Well. I like
the fact that he's doing the handand the shirt like Napoleon did in this
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picture, because this is before Napoleon. So like, what do you think
another gun or box of matches?Maybe? Yeah, I think it's matches.
That's a guy that summer sausage yourself. That seems like he likes summer
sausage. He's yeah, that's actuallynot a gun. It's a roll of
summer sausage. What a great endingto this. This is a great picture.
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Jack will have to share this thirdbody. Definitely eat anything else, Luke,
or do you let me start seguatingtowards the end here, I think
we're going to segue. So sumit all up. We sees Boston and
now we are getting ready for what'snext. So we got the guns.
It took forever, the big guns. Get a pictures of the guns too.
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You can share on social media onthe website. Have you updated website.
Yeah, Jack, what is thatwebsite? Yack the website. It
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job, Cheats. Yeah, Iencourage everybody to go back through and listen
to the back episodes because we're actuallymoving in order here through the timeline and
we're building up to this and we'vedone a pretty good job. So make
sure you catch the previous episodes andfollow along. They're all available. Yeah,
basically wherever you listen to our watchpodcasts. It's probably the most overused
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term error during a podcast. Butit's the truth, Luke, It's true.
So sorry, Luke, that's true. It's true. It's true.
It's dam' true. Any words ofadvice, Luke to leave us on before
I go with my catchphrase and Ihit the stop button. I guess the
best word advice is to always holdout hope that the big guns are coming.
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I'm holding u hope right now andlife, Wow's life's just as can
just be as simple as big guns. Yeah, Well, on that day.
I've got to end it with mycatchphrase, and that's keep being you
and keep being great, and don'tblow up any ships. That's just dangerous.
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(00:29):
to another story, another America Story. I said, I'm Jeff and joining
me as Luke. I'm going toshare with you another Mark story right now.
Thank you, Luke. And that'sthat's how you do it. I'm
doing good. Yeah, did it. I'm just kidding him. You guys.
Uh. Last week, Okay,let's just started off the proper way.
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I guess. So this is AmericaStories. We are covering American history
in a light, fun I guessI got that backwards. We're covering America
Street in a fun, lighthearted manner, but yet educational in short form.
It's nothing that's necessarily going to behours and hours, but every week we
try to bring you another event inAmerican history. We're kind of moving along
at a timeline here. So lastweek we did a little bit of a
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deep dive. It was a shortone, but an educational one, fun
one into George w and the hellThat's saw George w Bush. George Washington.
We talked about his backstory and thenas we ended the episode, we
segged way where he was joining theefforts in the war. Did I sum
that up all right? Where weleft off. Yeah, so we're excited
(01:36):
to kind of connect the dots andwhere he goes from there. So yeah,
like I just said, we justleft off he was joining the efforts
to help fight the war, andman, I'm excited to get into this
one. Actions about stuff's about topick up it is. Actually. Yeah.
One of the major things is,for most part, his staff officers
were chosen for him by Congress.Was the exception of if you're going to
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go to like build a team,right you like it's ideal if you're going
to go build a team that youhave, you're appointing these people on your
team leadership. Not the case you'resaying, oh no, no. For
the most part, all but twowere appointed to him too. He picked
what was a bookkeeper and his namewas Henry Knox and uh, but he
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had an exceptional amount of knowledge ofordinance like cannons and stuff like that.
They called him hard knocks that aleaf, yeah, very much. Because
he was promoted to colonel and achief of Washington's artillery. That's from a
bookkeeper to chief of artillery. That'suh, that's pretty So this is this
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is one that Okay, so Iguess I wasn't paid attention. Sorry,
is this one that he appointed orwas already appointed? This is one that
he got to appoint. Okay,So he personally had faith in this guy,
even though he wasn't a decorated militaryofficer. He thought that he would
be adequate to be behind the effortthat George Washington was going to and still
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so up up to this point theyappointed like his major generals and assistants and
everything. So Knox was like thefirst one that he got to pick himself.
And then he picked another colonel whohad helped John brightter on. No,
I'm just kid. It wasn't JohnBrook No, but we were talking
about him just before you rang usup. Or he's definitely gonna come up
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eventually, maybe not today. Butthe other he promoted to colonel was Alexander
Hamilton, who would later become presidentand he became his chief aid, his
CEA. Okay, yeah, yeah, exactly. So he then began his
march to Boston. This was,you know, kind of a big deal.
Everyone saw him immediately as a symbolof the cause. He was,
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you know, celebrated as he wentfrom place to place and greeted by anyone.
That's all because this was they hopedwould be the man to lead them
to victory in Boston. How arethey feeling right about now? I know,
like they just had a battle thatthey kind of held their own,
didn't. It's not gonna go downas a win. But it probably also
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was a quick realization that they're notnecessarily manned or experience enough at this point
to completely defeat the British. Yeah, so there's two things. Two different
groups of people had different thoughts.The people who weren't fighting, they were
excited because they thought, all right, this guy's gonna come in and immediately
(04:39):
turned the tide. We're gonna winthis whole thing. The people who were
fighting, they were extremely wore out. They didn't want to do anymore.
And actually when he arrived, hegot there two weeks after the Battle of
Bunker Hill, they were a completelyundisciplined mess. By a time he got
there. What were they doing?What do you mean by that? Do
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you mean by that everyone was kindof just like slacking off. Things weren't
being built, like new fortifications,weren't being built and weren't being maintained.
The officers themselves in charge of themilitia, they were just kind of not
doing their jobs. In fact,at this point, the officers of the
militia were elected from the rank andfile soldiers. They elected their officers,
(05:24):
so it's usually their friends and stuffthat they got elected. He then went
through and fired all those officers andpicked men that he could see that could
do the job better to run hisunder the lower level officers. That's a
way to make a statement. Yeah. He then he came up with a
(05:44):
way of doing drills. This waspartially Benjamin Franklin's idea. But what he
did is he wanted the officers toidentify special skills in the privates and regular
soldiers. If they could find skillsthese recruits had, he would then yeah,
I'll be able to use them moreeffectively. But on top of that,
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he find out which officers were completelyincompetent and couldn't identify gills, and
this was a huge change in howthe army was being ran at this point.
What exactly how did he feel whenhe took over, Like, obviously
he's he's from a decorated background offact, participating and not. I guess
he wasn't in the British Army directly, but it had to be different for
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what he's witnessing. Yeah, sohe was definitely used to be working with
the more professional organizations and so hecomes into this and it's kind of like,
Okay, I gotta try to getthis you know, rabble back into
a fighting force. They were afighting force for a little bit, but
then after their you know, losses, they kind of disintegrated a bit.
A lot of people. Yeah,there was desertions some people. Actually it
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was a big problem is these wereshort term assignments, so a lot of
their their terms are coming at theend of the year, and so they're
just we're saying, well, wecould just ride out the next few months.
We're not getting paid very well,if at all anymore because of the
lack of funds. So they werekind of all shirking their duties and he
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had to get them back into theline. This is like the movie The
Replacement, So you're seeing that movie, but yeah, it's a wonderful movie.
Kind of it's kind of like setin the scene here of that.
So just to Diamens a little bitmore We've talked about this on the previous
episodes. These guys that are doingthis war have left their livelihood, him
himself included, right, George Washington, have left their livelihood behind. They've
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left their work, maybe their farm, their family, and it's getting to
the point where their term of agreement, which is like what a year,
is up. And so he's alsonot only is he taking over having to
build his own entire team and getthings he wants and kind of organized when
he sees things are a little bitof an unorganized mess, he also has
to deal at this thing and hangingover his head of how do I deal
(08:03):
with all these expiring let's just saycontracts. It was quite the predicament to
be in and this was like ano win situation. He had to in
a very short period of time getthe army turned around and make a big
stride to get the morale backup.Was this sorry to cut you off in
the movie The Patriot, right,it all seems like I don't know somehow,
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like Mel Gibson was George Washington too. He was like everybody in that
he made, like the decision hewould be like if they didn't want to
be there, he didn't make themor for they wanted to go home,
he would let them. Was thatactually the case with mister Washington. He
was a little more strict about that. Yeah, if your urn or service
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wasn't up, you still were youwork for him? Yeah, and he
was going to make you work.In fact, one of the first days
he did after he got the officersreplaced and got guys that he lower ranks
filled out, because that was onething. They just didn't have a very
good hierarchy. There wasn't you know, lieutenants and then you know second lieutenants
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or stuff like that. He institutedthat. And so first eight is he
made to get back to work,and that was building new trenches, new
fortifications, so that you know,what had kind of fallen into disrepair over
the few last few months was beingrebuilt. What do you got our researcher,
(09:28):
our researcher, Lieutenant Jack. It'shard at work searching something on his
screen. Yeah, getting ready.We're we be talking about like some of
the privateers that were involved with kindof like dealing with British mercantile ships and
things like that, British Navy.What one character one privateier I wanted to
bring up. Was a person bythe name of Abraham Whipple. He was
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a you know, kind of likea privateer part of Eventually, I think
he even became part of the ContinentalNavy. Did his family to have a
patent on the whiffle ball or that? Well, No, but interesting he
mentioned his family is that he's kindof like a distant relative to HP Lovecrab.
So if you're familiar with his withthe Cthulhu, yeah, books and
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things like that. As a littlea little nugget of information there, because
he's he got his start and likeprivateering earlier in the war at the seventeen
seventy two he captured and burned someBritish ships and that's it, It's the
way to get started. He hewas. He was immediately jumped on.
I was as soon as there waslike the American cause were against the of
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the acts early on there, hewas just like, okay, let's let's
do it now, let's do itnow. And he started like one of
the ships. His name was agas beat. James Wallace sent him a
letter I said that he was goingto hang him for capturing and burning that
ship, and the Whipple sent himthe letter back says, if you need
to hang me or you need tocatch me, And so he was.
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He was. He was. Hewas a wirey one. Not I wouldn't
guess that by checking out of hispicture. Yeah, he was one of
the one of the more prevalent privateersduring this time. He was ahead of
his time. He was ahead ofhis time. The fact there's actually a
song that was written about specifically him, The wild Thing, right he was.
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That's a more modern redition of it. You know, I think you
can picture that song playing every timehe rides up on the ships before the
ships were being burned. Well,yeah, he was definitely ahead of his
time. That's a heck of athing to just get into you, right,
I'm gonna burn some ships, gonnaburn some ships. I mean,
if you make that decision, youknow, you kind of know what you're
doing. There's no going back.If you're pointing it out, that's true.
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He definitely not back. He hadno choice. He had to join
the effort. Actually, is aboutthis point that they did approve more private
teers. Like Jack was saying,they gave privateering contracts to twelve ships,
and over the next few months theycapture and destroy fifty five British cars containing
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what food, mostly food, andso this was part of Washington's plan to
starve the British out. He hadto do it because his side was also
starving. Both sides at this point, facing hunger, desertion, scurvy,
smallpox. It was a rough siteforever. What time of the year was
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this when Washington did join in thosefirst couple of months, I don't remember.
Was this full out winter he ator is that later on and we
it's it's it's getting to winter atthis point because he's there. He starts
there in July. But getting everythingturned around, getting them in back in
line, and then starting the privateering. It took a few months. It
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was mid to lay October or somethinglike that. At this point, the
Thomas Gage, the British military governorof in Boston, is actually relieved of
command and his underlying general house.He forced man too though, yeah,
because he didn't break the siege.So like they were like were on getting
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results such a slow moving thing too, like this didn't this happened over at
length to time, right this thisthis phase we're talking about right here,
like it makes sure what they're doingwhile Washington and his men are they're building
these trenches. He's they're working onsome training and stuff, like, what
the heck are the British doing.So there's actually the reason why they weren't
able to do much to stop them. At this point, two thousand long
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rifle hunters had shown up and theywere keeping the British away from sabotaging and
the earthworks and stuff. So everytime they were trying to come out,
these riflemen would be firing at longrange. The British we're not used to
exactly. Yeah, this whole likeway of doing war was almost entirely like
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this. It was like subrofuge.After subrofuge, it was by work.
It was a totally different type ofabout The British also know that they have
to fight on more than one frontnow, and General Henry Clinton sails out
of Boston with eleven hundred men tojoin up incoming recruits coming to the Carolinas
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where they're planning pushing the war fromanother flank to try to disrupt the Patriot
Army, which was going to bea big deal later on in the war.
So they're splitting their forces out ofBoston. They know this siege is
just like going on and on,and they're hoping they'll eventually just wear out.
But in case it doesn't, theyhave to start a new plan of
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attack, and so that's where allthese men are going. Washington desperately wants
to attack during this winter. Heknows that the contract they're actually the inlistments
are almost up. The rivers willfreeze, and they figured that they could
cross the frozen rivers. But hiscommand staff, which was beholden to Congress,
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the people that were appointed for him, Tom, don't go across the
rivers, don't do that. Theysuggested a different plan of attack, which
he eventually relented to because he sawit as a means to gain ground,
but it was safe. And whatthey decided to do is there's what's called
the Dorchester Heights. It's about ahundred feet above Boston, just the side
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of it, and from there theybelieve they have even better shooting range than
what they had previously on Breeds andBunker Hill. The long awaited guns from
Taykonderoga are coming. It's like thedragons and pants. The people delivering these
guns presumable. It's still it fordebate. I want to not It's like
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it's conflicting stories. One person saysthis, and then literally everyone else says
they were in advance. So theguns are coming. So they've been waiting
for these guns, just like yousaid the Game a Thrones with the dragons.
So they're waiting for these guns.So they do take the Dorchester Heights.
It was a relatively small fight.I believe it was like six British
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soldiers died, and because it wasn'tlike a ton of people up there.
Once they have that section, theguns show up finally in March of seventeen
seventy six. These guns were capturedin May of seventeen seventy five, and
they didn't make it down to Bostonuntil there. Wow. So Knox was
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y'all put in charge of those guns, and his mathematical capabilities allowed him to
triangulate and target a bunch of theships in the harbor, and he began
shelling them for days, blowing themup. This caused an absolute chaotic evacuation
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of Boston by the British army.And these were like the guns and I
realized, are they big guns?Yeah? Yeah, that's I kind of
run a. Guns were apparently farfar more powerful than I originally realized when
we first talked about them. Thesewere like coastal battery guns. These were
designed for destroying shippings. Were theBritish evacuating two They were escaping towards the
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Carolinas and stuff like that and surroundingterritories they were going to. Uh so
nin where the term came pull outthe big guns came from. I mean,
if you could come, I can'tcome up with a better reason,
way, a better example of it. So I think this has to be
it. All right. Took themten days to evacuate, and that whole
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time they're under fire. Knoxes uhis fantastic artilleryman. Then after that ten
days escape, Washington walked into Bostonwith five hundred men and captured it completely,
ending the siege of Boston back.This was, you know, something
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that everyone was just elated to havehappened, and like it was like this
is what they needed to get themen back into the fight. Morales up
and no longer are we worried thatwe can't win, except for like,
you know, people who are reallyhigh up and people who have you know,
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knowledge of what's going on in theCarolina as they know this is still
far from one, but it's thefirst step in a long road that takes
a long time to get things there. Yeah, I was gonna say it
does take a long time. We'retalking about that throughout this episode. And
when we get to the part whereit's it's ten days to evacuate, you
know, when you think it waslike a battle, it seems so constantly
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hacked it. So I'm I mean, ten days of constant chaos seems like
a long time. Yeah, that'sa long siege right there. Sounds exhausting.
Well, I mean it really was. One thing that happened, or
some things that happened after the colonialarmy was they were kind of in like
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a war mood and they wanted toloot all the loyalist houses and stuff and
destroy them in Boston. Washington managedto clamp down on that and prevented any
looting or rioting, and he thengot all the local police, kept them
in line, who made sure thatthey kept doing their job even though they've
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been working for the britishest whole time. He made sure that everything kept working
in town and kept his men fromhad a bunch of lilians. You know,
it's something that happens with almost everyarmy at any time you marching into
a city that you just take andthere's just something that switches off, and
the human brain kind of a fascinatingthing to study and research what different it
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happens. To see that now withevasion of Ukraine on both sides, right,
it's like both sides just kind ofboth sides runner all the guns doing
things that you normally wouldn't. Wealso saw that with the Green Mountain Boys
when they captured they for your emailboys. I was also gonna I was
I was going to bring up,you know what war. You know,
it's difficult to talking about war withoutsome you know, some terrible stuff popping
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up. But I was going tojust bring up the fact that they may
have fixed some locks. I don'tknow if we're going to do a throwback
to the the tea Boston Tea Party, but they broke a lot of stuff
when they fixed some locks. I'msure was there some additional locks fixed,
Luke, I would actually probably notsomething about the Boston Tea Party. Yeah,
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So, like Yo, we weretalking about how they were they were
kind of doing hooligan actions. Berniethrowing a t over and port. But
they didn't burn those shifts like thatcrazy Whipple guys. That's true. That
would have been a statement, justlight all the tea on fire. He's
highly by the way. It brokethe law. I made that up.
I don't know he's flammable at all. But yeah, yeah, for sure,
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but try it to me. Idon't know. Maybe maybe, yeah,
the bags themselves did be They brokeone lot, they fixed it.
This guy's out there, Bernie ships, he didn't fix them either. He
didn't fix that, didn't fix theshifts. For sure. It makes you
wonder if you could like a nummixedwonder makes you like think about being in
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there, like being able to actuallybe like a fly on the wall and
see all this happening, this siegethat took ten days, and to see
what some of the like the leaderswere doing during this interesting to think about.
Yeah, there's I kind of wantto know, like what the like
the regular council people in Boston andwe're going now like just your ranking fu
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say about this. They were thankyou peacekeeping mission exactly. So you talked
about how some of the I guessi'll say founding fathers, but the people
in Congress. I believe you wordedit, were not did not want to
be very aggressive, and it kindof reminded me of him. We'll talk
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about it later. But like theCivil War, Ulsis Grant, before he
really got going and took over,it was like very slow moving and almost
to the point where strategically was adisadvantage because they played it so safe.
So it sounds like it goes backto here too. It's kind of what
they were thinking. It does feelvery similar to that actually, and uh,
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and you can also draw parallels withsome of the people who were quick
to action and did more crazy thingslike Sherman went in the Civil War.
Yeah, he set out to destroythe supply lines of the South very quickly.
And then if you compare that tosay, like Francis Marion, who
was ahead of guerrilla tactics in theSouth and during the Revolutionary War, very
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similar tactics. Yew. They wereyou know, cutthroat kind of people.
They were going hard at them asopposed to like the traditional slow moving a
slog of war that these others havepracticed. So I mentioned that Gage was
replaced by General Howe just before allthis went down, well, because he
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lost Boston. How was replaced byClinton, who had went down to the
Carolinas and he blamed they fall ofBoston entirely on how said, how was
it building up? And he wasn'tgoing after the hills. He let them
get the Dorchester Heights and he saidthat was why. Technically, that is
why they lost. You lose thesights. But it's kind of funny to
see them immediately throw another one underthe bus. Some things haven't changed they
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had. It sounds like we hada very good strategy though to take over
Boston, and we kind of playedto our weaknesses. Yeah, definitely a
good strategy to take that hill anduse those guns that we spent so much
time getting down there in order tosecure the victory. It was just funny,
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though, how long what if theeven every would have came, that
would have been so bad. It'slike they just would have some about wandered
off or got recaptured or whatever.But it's funny though that. Yeah,
if it wasn't for the fact thatBenedict Arnold ran so hard to get up
there to get to those guns,they would have never broke to see thinking
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like Benny, Benny d Now that'swhat they call them Minny d b D
for short, and what would havehappened then, you know, if they
didn't take Boston and all those peowill Dessert at the end of their listen
should not come back. You know, definitely this up too. But the
importance of that fort Yeah, thatwas like six episodes. So they the
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gun guns finally came out. Thoseguns. Yes, so well go ahead,
Jacko Lanard. I was just gonnasay that, you know, because
you know, this is like abig victory by itself, but it's also
you know, yeah, because you'relike yelling, you're so excited. So
those of you that are listening,uh, we we we we work on
the audio and quite great length becausesome reason when we call him Samuel L.
(25:36):
Jackson, because he just yells intohis microphone. Anyways, you're excited.
I'm excited. I was excited aboutit was almost excited about when I
were John Bracketts. But yeah,you know it not only is it's like
a big win just in general,it's a very symbolic win by getting Boston
kind of it's like a come fullcircle here at this point, and it
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was what was the year long siege? Is that right? It started April
nineteenth, seventeen seventy five March seventeenth, seventeen seventy six, so ten months
and some odd change there. Yeah, long siege and a very important location.
So yeah, really really important battle. So what do we have any
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other interesting things to bring up onthis topic or any other side debts or
anything. I will say this was, you know, a beyond being a
big victory just for the cause,it was also proof in Congress's ability to
pick their leadership for this, pickingWashington to lead and hither his staff and
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then you know, trusting Washington's abilityto pick his understaff at lower officers.
They This was big for both Washingtonhimself because he got to prove himself in
battle as a cape well leader ofthe full army, like he had always
believed himself to be. And thenit was also a major thing for Congress
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because now they could point to howtheir new commander in chief can actually beat
the British. And so this wasa big boon for everyone's like egos is
like kind of a weird way ofsaying it, but really their ego was
pumped up from all this, andso this was this was big for everyone.
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How everything starts to really change nowbecause everyone believes that. No longer
do they believe that they're pretty sureinvincible. They've proven that they're not invincible.
About the British are they feeling rightnow? Obviously they decided to evacuate
Boston. They're bad. They feelingreal bad. They're really looking forward to
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trying to take the South, theshift their focus. Yeah, they're preparing
a grand military coming back in theSouth. They're also going to be doing
more combat in the North, butfor now they're they're focusing there. They're
most of their generals, most oftheir men to the southern stay colonies,
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preparing to undercut what just happened.They're truly picking their battles with this.
Now they're all going to get hungup on Boston for the moment. No,
not for long, but for alittle bit. They are mostly just
throwing each other under the bus.A little bit and a little update on
what Abraham Whipples up to during thisDuring this whole siege, he went from
(28:33):
in June seventy seventy five, hewent from capturing a frigate from the British
and heading on down to Bermuda topick up some gunpowder from various places and
just kind of transporting that around.Then by the time the siege was over,
Boston was taken. He was,he was he was commissioned as a
(28:55):
captain in the Continental Navy. Wherehe is. Uh, well, we'll
do some updates on Abraham Whipple throughoutthe coming years, because he keeps he
keeps up his h his Shenanigans,because he's gone to the Bahamas again and
he's fighting some British garrisons and capturingsome more British ships. He's take a
pyromaniac. He I guess he's kindof like those like American pirate kind of
(29:22):
guy. I don't know what's up, Okay, I like, yeah,
Abraham Whipple, it's like Kid Rocks, American badass, but he's aired American
pire. Okay, what else wouldyou get anything? Any other you guess
pictures you're looking at, Jack,besides the guns, the massive guns,
the guns show is he realized AbrahamWhipple. Yeah, I know, I
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figured that it was muted. Okay, all right, let's take a quick
describe him to us. You'll haveto get a share a picture of this,
but described he is heavier man witha big hat, with a very
very big hat like a top hatslike no tricorner and okay, yeah,
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he kind of looks like I guesshe's almost like a Napoleon. It's a
little a little bit picture of theQuaker. Oh you know what, he
actually just look a little a littlemore like that. Now they mentioned it
to do a side best side atthe Quaker. Oh guy, okay,
yeah, Jack, Jack was overthis, I say it up in the
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corner okay, okay, oh man, does he not have hands? So
it's in his jacket? What's heup to you? And his hands in
his pockets or jacket or he's gonnahand in his jacket. And I think
that is a pistol? Is heholding that pistol style? All? He
actually got up on the barrel area. It's quite it's gotta saber. But
(30:56):
it was no slides, I guessit. I don't know he is.
You can't see, but yeah,I'll definitely uh I'll put a picture on
both that makes to the quicker andwe'll see you you know what would make
this The people listening can't can't seethis, but in the background you see
some ships. You know, thatmight be more It might make more sense.
(31:18):
That's kind of like his thing.Yeah, ship has to be in
there. He's gonna go He's gonnago blow that thing up. The only
problem with him is he just blewup every ship, whether it was the
American or British not I made thatpart be well. Well. I like
the fact that he's doing the handand the shirt like Napoleon did in this
(31:42):
picture, because this is before Napoleon. So like, what do you think
another gun or box of matches?Maybe? Yeah, I think it's matches.
That's a guy that summer sausage yourself. That seems like he likes summer
sausage. He's yeah, that's actuallynot a gun. It's a roll of
summer sausage. What a great endingto this. This is a great picture.
(32:07):
Jack will have to share this thirdbody. Definitely eat anything else, Luke,
or do you let me start seguatingtowards the end here, I think
we're going to segue. So sumit all up. We sees Boston and
now we are getting ready for what'snext. So we got the guns.
It took forever, the big guns. Get a pictures of the guns too.
(32:27):
You can share on social media onthe website. Have you updated website.
Yeah, Jack, what is thatwebsite? Yack the website. It
is America Stories dot us and youcan contact us our mention just and speak
with us on Twitter at America storyPod or you can send us an email
America Stories Pod at gmail dot com. Smooth. I like that. Good
(32:52):
job, Cheats. Yeah, Iencourage everybody to go back through and listen
to the back episodes because we're actuallymoving in order here through the timeline and
we're building up to this and we'vedone a pretty good job. So make
sure you catch the previous episodes andfollow along. They're all available. Yeah,
basically wherever you listen to our watchpodcasts. It's probably the most overused
(33:13):
term error during a podcast. Butit's the truth, Luke, It's true.
So sorry, Luke, that's true. It's true. It's true.
It's dam' true. Any words ofadvice, Luke to leave us on before
I go with my catchphrase and Ihit the stop button. I guess the
best word advice is to always holdout hope that the big guns are coming.
(33:34):
I'm holding u hope right now andlife, Wow's life's just as can
just be as simple as big guns. Yeah, Well, on that day.
I've got to end it with mycatchphrase, and that's keep being you
and keep being great, and don'tblow up any ships. That's just dangerous.
(34:00):
As everybody knows. Brother around there, fluent schools go into jo Are
you like you find Negle Road?Did you do it's wrong? People got
a think for the dangers, findany side? The best of us take
you what day wrong? Like yousaid to some of us, do good
(34:22):
best we can. Some of usdo the best we can. Say Jeff
(34:54):
Townsend, media sees you good night. And the question is do I stay
here? Will you be back?Are you gonna come back? Will you
be back? Are you coming back
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