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Welcome back to America Today. You're going to enjoy the next
couple of segments. I know you will.
Shaz Khan is back with us. She wrote a book called Vaccine
that the Ultimate Timeline, which I've read.
And it's a fascinating look at the history of vaccines in the
United States and in fact, the world.
And on the on the back end of COVID, still trying to grapple
with all that's going on there. Thank God for for Robert Kennedy
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Junior. He is a trailblazer and he is
recently of note, pulled us out of this horrendous World Health
Organization pandemic treaty that all these countries are
considering signing on to. And he actually pulled us out.
And I think Trump pulled us out as well.
And, and many people might go, oh, that's a bad thing.
It's a bad thing. Well, not if you look at the
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fine print. I'm looking at part of the
treaty here. And it's very arduous to read.
And maybe we can get Shaz Khan'sopinion.
But another breaking news story has to do with SIDS, SIDS and
the fact that there may be some relationship with certain
vaccines. So welcome back to the program.
Shaz, how are you? I'm doing very well, Jim.
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Thank you so much for having me back.
So tell us what's going on with this story of SIDS.
Well, Sid, it's interesting because as you're probably well
aware, Doctor Pierre Corey's I wrote a fantastic substance that
goes into details about how we have the health authorities have
kind of suppressed the information about SIDS after
vaccines since it's been obviously it was dire.
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The word came around in 1969, I believe it was.
The death following vaccination has been acknowledged and
witnessed and seen since the beginning of vaccination.
So starting from a smallpox vaccine, which obviously we
never really injected under the skin so much.
It was a a scraping type of vaccine.
But pretty much every single vaccine that has come onto the
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market up until that law, up until today, there have been
deaths reported. So it's no surprise that I hope
we now all these things are coming out to, to be open, to be
seriously investigated scientifically.
But I can tell you that in the US, the Institute of Medicine
published 2 reports specificallyon SIDS, one in 91 and one in
2003. And in both of them, what is
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quite concerning is that it doesadmit that there is a huge body
of literature missing, making itinadequate to accept or reject
causation for hepatitis B vaccine or polio, inactivated
polio, Hib, the D tap and multiple together as potentially
causing Sid. And despite despite not having
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the information necessary to really conclude if there is a
link or not, the committee did not recommend a policy review of
the recommended childhood vaccination schedule, which
again, for me is highly problematic.
I'm not a parent, but if I was aparent I'd be incredibly
concerned that our institutions aren't looking into this more
seriously. And it's also a fact that the
Big Pharma and the previous administration, the CDC and
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others, they've downplayed this study, haven't they?
I mean, you can't find it almost.
No, they'll downplay any connection.
The question maybe the answer ismore obvious, but the question
is how do they get away with it?That's a great question.
I think they get away with it because unfortunately science is
kind of being captured by financial interests.
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I mean, anybody who's in the scientific field and part of no
publish or perish, you need grants, you need all kinds of
financing to be able to investigate whatever it is you
want to investigate. And if the money's not there to
actually look at a valid problemor you have interest who are
trying to direct you into comingout with a specific outcome,
then you're never going to get to the bottom of these issues.
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And, you know, most parents and most people who are actually
taking these vaccines aren't even, you know, what involved in
the scientific community necessary.
So they're very dependent on thegovernment authorities and the
scientific community could give them the information that they
need. But I think it's also there's a
huge amount of fear that if the truth was to come out and that
they had to admit that indeed there were deaths after
vaccines, that would really dentthe public trust in the vaccine
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schedule, which has already taken a huge dent since COVID.
But the fact of the matter is that the Vaccine Injury
Compensation program has paid out for death following
vaccination. And in the state, that payout is
capped to a maximum of $250,000 per death.
It's unclear how many deaths have actually been compensated,
but they've been over 1400 deaths that have been claimed
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under the VICP. And that's already a huge, I
would say a small percentage of what actually maybe really is
happening on the field and and and and state.
We are talking with Shaz Khan. She's written the book.
She's an authority on the history of vaccines and the the
sometimes not so rigorous testing that they've gone
through. And that's, I think really the
bulk of, of what your book has to say is that we've rushed
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through a lot of these, you know, usually the process of, of
evaluating and going through tests and double-blind placebo
studies and all these is, you know, anywhere from 7 to 10
years, which is an investment of, I'm sure, a lot of
resources. And it's not as if we're sitting
here advocating that nobody takevaccines.
What we're advocating is that for far too long, people that we
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trust with our health and our health care have expedited in
the name of profits, many of these that have come to market
without doing real studies on what happens when you mix them
up. For example, it used to be when
I was a kid, I could remember Shahs, you go and you get your,
you know, you get one shot and then you come back a couple
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months later and you get anothershot.
Well, now they're mixing them all up and they're putting them
all together and they don't go through an efficacy.
Am I right in saying this? They don't really ever test to
see what the potential for adverse effects are with
multiple vaccines at once, do they?
They do in some cases like the flu vaccine for instance, they
might compare it and add it to another vaccine like the head
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but there has never as far as I know.
And I hope someone maybe corrects me but I have not found
a single study that looks at thecomplete vaccine schedule and
looks at the safety of the complete vaccine schedule and
the potential synergistic toxicity of giving all those
vaccines at the same time or even with intervals is like a
few months. But that's what really sorry
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lacking and even means. 2 of Medicine did publish a report
again specifically on the childhood schedule in 2013, and
they said the safety studies on the complete vaccine schedule do
not exist. There you go.
Just to give you an illustrationof this, if you were to go and
look at the VARES report, now the VARES report is the Vaccine
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Adverse Effects Report System reporting system, and it was
initiated actually by Congress as a way of monitoring reaction
from the public once a new vaccine is released or they
start implementing a new schedule.
Now if you go to if you do a search on open VARES or just
VARES, the first thing that's going to pop up is the
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vares.hhs.gov and that will takeyou through a myriad of all
these wonderful things that vaccines do and how happy you
should be. Then you go to Open bears.com,
which is about 7 searches down on Google and the first thing
you see is that 2.67 million people, and these are just the
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people that reported, have reported adverse effects and
these are from the COVID vaccine.
I don't mean to take up a lot ofyour time, but if you break it
down, that means that according to the adverse reporting system,
38,000 people have died subsequent to giving a COVID
vaccination. Now that's on the Open Bears
report that you and I can go andget.
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If you go look at the website ofthe United States government,
you're not going to see that number.
That's what we're talking about here. the United States
government is suppressing its own information.
Why? Because they are worried about
vaccine hesitancy. How do we end this culture of
death is my question. Well, it's a very hard question.
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I mean, I think you in the states, you're very lucky to
have Kennedy in office who is obviously trying to make changes
with regards to really assessingvalid safety for these vaccines
in combination and individually.That's the huge step.
And I'm hoping that that will filter down to other countries.
But Blenders is not doing any kind of research like that.
And we're still very much in thecensorship arena.
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I would say we're not even allowed to question the basic,
the basic principle, sorry, of vaccines being safe, effective,
but but yeah, it's very concerning.
COVID again, has has kind of highlighted the problems with
the whole system in general, because there's is a passive
reporting system. It's very important to mention
that people say, oh, you know, it it it can't prove causation,
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which of course it can't. It's just a reporting system.
But this is seriously under reported.
I was just saying that anyone who follows a force there is,
could be, you know, basically prosecuted for fraud.
But you know, serious people don't just fill it out for fun
and, and it's really concerning to know this is a passive
surveillance system doesn't really pick up the real truth of
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what's going on. Most people, I mean, nowadays,
hopefully, I think a lot of people are educated the system
actually exists. But for a long time, people
didn't even know the system existed that they could report a
diverse event. And with COVID, I believe in the
US and territories, we're looking at 19,000 deaths at the
moment, which have been reported, which the CDC and the
FDA and cysts have absolutely nocausation linked to the vaccine
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yet. I seriously doubt that.
They've done 19,000 individual investigations on each death to
really seriously evaluate that. And so some, we have 236 deaths.
And again, none of them, they say, are associated to the
vaccine. But it's dismissive.
We're going to continue our conversation with Shaz Khan.
She's the author of Vaccine the ultimate timeline.
We'll get to that. And I want to talk about this
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new World Health Organization pandemic treaty.
We'll get to that just a second.You're listening to America
Today, Jim Watkins, my guest Shaz Khan.
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Now I should mention that Shaz Khan is living in in a is
Switzerland part of the EU, right?
I mean, you guys are part of theEU, no?
It's not. Actually it's not.
It's not part of the EU. How is that possible?
Really. That's weird, I didn't know
that. Well, customers managed to get
away with having a very cushy kind of relationship, but we
still have a lot of pressure from the EU as we saw very well
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during the COVID pandemic. Yeah, I was going to say, is it
against the law? I mean, I don't want to put you
in any kind of trouble here, butI mean, you're basically just
talking facts. Any this show does not air in
Switzerland. So I guess you're OK.
But have you have you been, I mean, in your experience having
coming out with a book and I'm sure it's very successful.
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I'm sure you've been the target of a lot of people that find you
somewhat dangerous, right? Well, I think the advantage of
being based in Switzerland and my book actually only having
just recently come out in Europe, I've been pretty be
protected at the moment. I mean, I'm part of an
organization of Swiss medical and health professionals.
I just typically I'm not one myself as a researcher.
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I was voted in and it's through the organization that I've
noticed a lot of our doctors geta lot of a lot of heat.
But by myself at the moment, notyet because I guess I don't have
anything to lose. It's not like I have a
reputation or, you know, a university affiliation that they
can take away from me or so for the time being, no.
But we'll see. I guess in time maybe that will
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change. Have you traveled?
I mean, have you had your passport denied or anything like
that? Or do they watch your social
media? No, no.
And I'm not on social media. That was that.
That's smart. How did you, how do you avoid
that? I mean, that's impossible.
I guess you just don't do it. Right.
No, I, I mean, I guess I come from a generation who never
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really kind of adopted social media very easily.
And then when COVID happened andI saw the censorship on Facebook
and, and on, on Twitter and I was never on Twitter anyway.
But Facebook I, I barely use anymore at all.
LinkedIn I don't use either. I I basically use the good old
fashioned, you know, call peopleup and see people face to face,
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but I'm not very good on social media.
That's smart. I've been just talking to a
friend. He, he does a lot of research.
He's been on this program a couple of times.
He's actually come up with a fentanyl testing kit and a very
well-rounded, educated entrepreneur.
He says the rise of super cancers in the United States is
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alarming and he directly attributes it to mRNA.
Have you heard any, any, anything about that?
I know that in, in Germany they came out with the study, I think
it was 2024 where death rates were up by 30% year to year.
And, and, and there's some attribution to the mRNA.
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What are you hearing about the mRNA itself?
And I know you've talked to Corey and Robert Malone and
others. mRNA is dangerous, isn'tit?
I mean, would you assess that? It's as time goes on we'll start
to find out that it's much more dangerous than we previously
believed. I think we probably will,
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unfortunately, and I'll just tryto specify and remind people
that they are. mRNA in the vaccine is not a natural form of
mRNA because obviously we all have mRNA in our bodies
naturally, but this is a synthetic form which is hard to
break down. That's the reason why they made
it synthetic because otherwise they couldn't get it to actually
get into your cells broken down in the body before it actually
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even gets there. So yeah, that was very
concerning. And I'd like to remind your your
listeners, no vaccine has been tested to see if it can cause
cancer. So the the rise that we're
seeing in turbo cancers, especially in younger people,
which we're seeing across the board all across Europe,
especially in the vaccinated countries.
I mean, be interesting to see a comparative study between the
rates of cancer in in countries with had had low vaccination
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rate compared to high vaccination rates.
But this is very concerning and it's something that we're going
to see for another another few years, if not decades.
And it's going to take a while, if ever the public health
authorities actually admit to this and do the studies
necessary to actually confirm the connection.
Because again, if nobody's doingthe studies and, or they're not
being published in the high impact journals or being funded
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by what they call, you know, reliable scientific
institutions, we're not going tohave any clear cut answers that
can be taken seriously by the public health authorities in the
medical community to help actually treat these people and
prevent it from happening again.Why was the treat Explain to me
that the dangers of the World Health Organization's attempt to
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come up with an international pandemic treaty.
Now, I'm going to take the devil's advocate approach here.
Let's say that in this pie in the sky world, we have this
international consortium of nations that work together and
they and they try to put out a pandemic.
You know, so people in Ethiopia will be just as entitled to
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treatment as people in Arkansas.OK.
So that's what everybody is talking about, the benefits, all
these doctors and physicians andinstitutions getting together to
work to any kind of future pandemic that that's the rosy
picture. What's the dark side of this
World Health Organization pandemic treaty from your
position? What's wrong with it?
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Well, from my position and from the position of people who have
a lot more expertise and understand these treaties, who I
work with or who collaborated with, the big problem is that it
seems to be a mechanism to allowpandemics to happen more easily.
And that there is a whole financial mechanism to finance
it and for Pharmaceutical industry to benefit from these
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pandemics. About something called Biohub,
which is this the centralized system of wanting to share
pathogenic information in. And it's always under the guise
of like equity. Equity is one of the keywords
that you'll find in this pandemic treaty to, to make sure
that everyone has equitable access to medication and to
vaccine. And it sounds fantastic on
paper, but on in actual fact, the problem is that you're not,
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it's going to become a controlling mechanism to control
what products can get out to people.
So for instance, what we still with hydroxychloroquine and
ivormectin, it would be very easy for them to basically shut
down any access to those medications because they deem
them to not be efficacious or profitable for their partners.
Because let's face it, The Who has now become one giant public
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private partnership, unfortunately, with the way it's
been structured and finance. And that could basically mean
that next time there's a pandemic, not only are they all
the countries can be able to share their genomic pathogen
information to make it much easier for other countries to
maybe even create new pathogens.And there's something even
called AI generated pathogens. There's going to create a huge
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market and basically close off any opportunity for there
already was no debate possible this like the COVID, but it will
remain make it very difficult next time around.
And even though countries like Switzerland, you know, we're
supposed to be a direct democracy and the, the, the
example in the world of, of sovereignty, Switzerland
insisted that who can't declare a pandemic on our behalf.
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But we are changing our nationalepidemics law to align with the
international health regular regulations that have been
changed and now accepted by Switzerland and this new
pandemic treaty. So they're putting in place all
the instruments to allow them basically to have a complete
market control over the productsthat get exchanged during a
pandemic, what we have access to.
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And not to mention the whole, there's a huge profit motive
behind it. I mean, look at Pfizer, how much
money they made from their theirCOVID vaccine, despite the fact
they did receive taxpayer funding to help develop it.
This is something we're going tosee on an even more massive
scale of this pandemic treaty actually goes through and gets
ratified because even though it's been accepted by not the US
and Argentina, but all the othernations pretty much accepted it
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this year, still have to be ratified and it'll take probably
another two years before actually gets implemented.
But it's very concerning. I mean, it could actually create
more pathogens being shared amongst Member States and the
bio security risks are are very,very present and very real and
very concerning. It's it's insane to think that
there are scientists, doctors working on pathogens right now
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in the lab somewhere under the guise of safety.
I'm and we don't have time for monkey pox comes to mind.
We'll get to that the next time.Shah's Khanza, because I'm sure
she has some. Remind me about that.
Anyway, your book is wonderful. It's called If you want to
understand vaccines and history unbiased.
It's not a political book. Get the book.
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It's called Vaccines, the ultimate timeline.
Shahs Khan. Thank you again, Shahs.
We'll talk to you again. Be safe.
Thank you, Jim. All the best to you.
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