June 30, 2025 • 19 mins
Researcher and author Shaz Kahn, who wrote Vaccines: The Ultimate Guideline, joins us to discuss new links between vaccines and autism, and another recent report showing how pharma companies hid the data that linked SIDS (Sudden Infant Death Syndrome) to DPT vaccines in the 1960's and 1970's. Also discussed: COVID-19 vaccines and what we now know about their true efficacy.
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I am very happy to have back Shahs Khan and she has written a
wonderful book and I've read it.And if you want to, if you are
interested naturally in vaccinesin general, she has done an
incredible job of timelining howvaccines were introduced, how
they're used, how they're developed, everything you ever
wanted to know about vaccines, including a lot of things that
(00:31):
you don't want to know. The ultimate vaccine timeline, a
fact packed history of vaccines and their makers.
Now welcome back to the program.It's good to have you.
Shahs, how are you? Thank you, Jim.
Thank you so much for having me.I'm very good.
Bit hot but all good. Yeah, I hear, I hear too, in the
States too. But guess what?
It's summer. That's a weird thing, you know,
(00:52):
that it became summer all of a sudden and everything got hot.
Imagine that. OK, so a couple of big shaking
things that came out that I wantto get your opinion on.
One is that the vaccines may have a direct link to autism and
#2 Pierre Corey of COVID-19 fame, one of the few that was
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able to survive being taken downby questioning the mRNA vaccine.
He came out with an incredible substack exposing the link
between SIDS, which is sudden infant death syndrome.
I think they've changed the nameof it and its direct
relationship to certain vaccinesthat are administered at a young
age. So we'll get to both of that.
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So Shahs, first of all, what's what's been, what has happened?
What are they, what are they determining in layman's terms,
how vaccines might have a directlink to autism?
What do you know? Well, from my research, and
again, it's been a historical research and the word autism
wasn't much in the old documents.
Obviously it was more neurological injury and
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philosophy. But coming to more recent like
from the 1960s, nineteen 70s andwe start seeing the word autism
come up. It's obviously not as common as
we have now. And the first IOM reports that
we're analyzing the link betweenvaccines and this didn't start
until like 2004. And there were expert witnesses
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who I would say one expert witnessed in particular in 2018
who wrote an affidavit. He was an expert witness for the
government under the the childhood vaccine injury
Compensation Program. So for those who don't know,
it's program where if you're injured off the vaccines, you go
to a special vaccine court and you will potentially get
compensation if your case is accepted.
And he was an expert witness defending the government and he
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wrote that he did believe that in some susceptible children
that there were triggers of autism following the
vaccination. And after he wrote that
affidavit, which the, the the copy of that text is in the
book, he was dropped as an expert witness because the word
autism and vaccines obviously is, is incredibly triggering, I
think for the institutions, for the, the, the makers as well and
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for the government who purchasedthe vaccine.
And also I would say for the doctors who are supposed to be
given enough warning and informed consent to anybody who
gets the vaccine. But the the clearer in in a
historical level was definitely the neurological injuries that
weren't very well documented. Like there were obviously
behavioral impacts that we see today with autistic kids today.
Obviously autism spectrum is very large, very wide spectrums
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where you have functioning children who were declared
autistic to the completely non functioning.
We need, you know, 24 hour care.And we saw those injuries with
all types of vaccines already nearly 20th century.
But the recent, recent documentation, I mean, the, as I
said, the Institute of Medicine now called the National Academy
of Sciences, I believe when theydid their immunization safety
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review on vaccines and autism, they only looked at thimerosal
containing vaccines and MMR, which obviously was doctor
Wakefield who brought up the potential link between MMR and
gastro symptoms, which were linked to autism.
But they never looked at the whole vaccine schedule.
They never looked at non thimerosal containing vaccines
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and they hadn't yet looked at TAP either.
But funnily enough, in 2012, theInstitute of Medicine then came
out with a report where they looked at adverse effects of
vaccines of evidence and causality and therefore autism
under detox. So diphtheria, tetanus and
pertussis, which is whooping cough, they just declared it was
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inadequate to accept or reject causation because there was a
lack of scientific evidence. So the question is still very
much open and still needs to be investigated and taken seriously
by the scientific establishment because at the moment they're
not really investing as far as Iknow.
Any research into trying to understand the link between
vaccines and development of autism and also the
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susceptibility of certain children may be too developing.
Maybe, you know, you have 10 kids and none of them interact
the same way. What is, is there a genetics
predisposition that makes some kids more susceptible to getting
autism? Is an environmental factors?
Is it a combination of, you know, glycophate in the system
triggering these autism like symptoms when someone goes in
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for a vaccine? There are a lot of open
questions still, in my opinion, that need to be resolved.
There is a lot of chatter about aluminum being in a lot of these
vaccines and that could have a deleterious effect on the immune
system. Have you heard any anything
about that? Oh yeah, absolutely.
I mean, the whole reason why they add aluminum to the to the
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vaccines is to create an immune reaction because often many of
these vaccines and primarily theinactivated vaccines, but
they're not the live viral vaccines on their own without an
adjuvant, which is what aluminumis, there's no reaction.
So they need to add the aluminumto boost the immune reaction so
that there is, you know, a generation of antibodies or T
cells. And so that's why they used
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aluminum or aluminum aluminum inthe vaccines and they've been
using them since the 19 late 1920s.
And still, again, very little scientific study has gone into
understanding, one, the mechanism of aluminum and why it
does, you know, induce the immune reaction.
And 2nd, how can it be, you know, what are the benefits or I
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would say rather the, the negative effects that it can
have on the body, especially in the long term when you're
introducing it on a cumulative basis.
Because a lot of these vaccines and you get them, especially the
children, unfortunately, babies,they're getting repeat doses.
What is the impact of aluminum on the system at this age?
And again, it hasn't been studied.
And I was shocked to discover this because I came from
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completely kind of neutral, naive approach and was shocked
to find out that they hadn't done sufficient studying on the
adjuvant and aluminum especiallyto find out what the potential
side effects could be on a developing baby.
I, I want to stay on the autism and then and then talk about the
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SIDS case because it's very interesting in, in both.
There does not seem to appear tome at least based on, on what
you've written and others have said is what when they mix these
different combinations together so that you have basically a
triple shot MMR being a good example.
How much testing do they do to to find out if there's any
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problem with administering all three of those vaccines
simultaneously? And what does that do to the
immune system? It must be overwhelming.
Well, unfortunately, again, my research has come up, they
haven't researched this enough. Like typically with the MMR
vaccine, the three vaccines existed independently.
So you had the single mumps, they had the single measles and
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you had the single rubella. And when they were developing
the MMR, they simply tested it against the single vaccine.
So that was their comparative control.
There was no placebo. There was no long term studies
as well to see what the effects are on the on the long term.
And there was no analysis of thesynergistic effects that this
vaccine can have along with for instance, the D tap, which we
(07:54):
know you know, kids will have had by that point.
And nowadays also given the men and meningococcal as well around
12 months. So there has been very, very, in
my opinion, little studying of the, the impacts of these triple
combined vaccines. And you talk with the MMR, but I
mean, now we have the six in onewhere you've got a mix of viral
and bacterial diseases and in one shot.
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And it's supposed to be more convenient and obviously easier
for a parent and a pediatrician to administer instead of having
to do 6 separate shots. But the safety testing is
seriously lacking. And that's, that's my biggest
concern that they, they need to go back to the, the drawing
board, I would say, and really analyze the difference in, in
giving single shots, the combined shots and compare them
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to real true placebo controls, which to this day still has not
been done. Shaz Khan is the author of The
Ultimate Vaccine Timeline. I want to get into the money a
little bit. And if you can, can you hang on
it? Because I got about 10 more
questions to ask you. But I do want to do you think
that, I mean, just as an illustrative look at the heat
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that Robert Kennedy is getting for firing basically his entire
committee of vaccine researchersand over at the CDC.
But what they don't tell you is that every single one of the
people that he fired had strong connections to big pharma in
terms of getting money. And so let's talk about that
when we come back. Hang on just a second.
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Welcome back. We are talking with the author
of a great book that you absolutely must get if you care
about healthcare, particularly for your kids, You need to know
what big pharma may be in involved with.
It's not pretty, but it's important and it's good
knowledge to have its ultimate vaccine timeline.
And the author is with us, ShahsKhan from Switzerland, where she
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resides. Let's talk a little bit about
the big, the big pharma connection.
I mean, they are the number one advertiser in the United States
right now. Why don't they allow
pharmaceuticals to advertise on on TV in other countries?
The reason why it's not allowed in most other countries is
because it kind of takes away the, the job of the physician to
inform the patient and not to be, not to have the patient
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influenced by advertising, whichis obviously the whole point of
advertising is to influence behavior.
So I it's interesting that New Zealand is the only other
country. I'm not quite sure why that is.
I guess, again, lobby interest who put, you know, their
influence in, in policy making. But yeah, it's it's mainly
because you don't want to replace the doctor patient
relationship. You certainly don't want to have
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people going into the office andjust basically, you know,
repeating what they've seen on ad TV, which is obviously paid
for, paid for by the pharmaceutical company.
And it almost appears as they write a lot of the ads or news
stories about, you know, like, for example, if there's a flu,
they'll use it as a catapult. This is a reminder that the CDC
recommends that you get your flushot and all that stuff.
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I mean, they're really big on, on, on jacking things into our
arms constantly. It must be hugely profitable.
What kind of profits are we talking about here with, say,
Pfizer or Moderna? Are we talking billions of
dollars in in annual profits? Yeah.
Absolutely. I mean, Pfizer, Pfizer thanks to
COVID and their and their injection blew basically the
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record in 2022, I believe it waswhere they, they for the first
time any pharmaceutical company went over 100 billion in sales,
annual sales worldwide. And that was thanks to the sales
of commonities of their mRNA vaccine.
But in general, yeah, their, their profits are definitely in
the billions. People tend to believe that
vaccines aren't big money makers, and they used to not be,
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but now they are, and they can be a significant source of
income for the Pharmaceutical industry.
And they represent about the 10 we've been trying about 15 to
20% sometimes of the annual sales of to the vaccine
manufacturers. So like GSK, Merck, Sanofi and
Pfizer, obviously, which are theBIG4.
Now Moderna has come into the, to the play also Johnson and
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Johnson, Durham Institute, Indiais actually the biggest
pharmaceutical manufacturer of vaccines by doses, but not by
the by, not by profits, because they sell most of their vaccines
to Gabby and UNICEF, but they they're definitely but into the
billions. Absolutely.
And you have to remember they have no risk involved with
vaccines. So if there are any damages,
it's not them who pays the bill,it's the the the taxpayer.
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You know, Bill Gates has gotten a lot of criticism from places
like Nigeria where they were sterilizing under the auspices
of giving them vaccines. Do you know anything about that?
And I think it was either, I think it was Nigeria where the
president actually told UNICEF or whoever was involved, go
away. We don't want you.
You're you didn't tell us you were sterilizing our children.
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Isn't that shocking to? You yeah, it is absolutely
shocking. And it wasn't only in Nigeria,
it also was in Kenya, Nicaragua and the Philippines and Mexico.
And I believe again, sorry, my my date exactly.
I can't remember off the top of my head, but I believe was
already in the 90s where there were suspicion around a tetanus
vaccine campaign. It was aimed at only pubescent
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girls and they were giving them several doses, like up to 5-6
doses. And they started investigating
and looking at the vials and they found anti HDG, which is
human, human gonna cropin. I'm going to say it wrong,
sorry. Human chrono cropin, which is
basically a hormone that is necessary to become pregnant and
it was an anti this. So it was creating antibodies
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and the people were receiving this against pregnancy.
Obviously The Who, they denied all of this and UNICEF denied
this as well. But there were at least four
countries who who recognizes andstop the vaccination campaign.
As a result, I'm not surprised that Nigeria came out against
Bill Gates. But we're not talking about
being against vaccines. There are vaccines that are
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perfectly acceptable and, and they're very effective, right?
I'm trying to be diplomatic because obviously, I mean,
everyone's going to accuse me ofbeing an anti vaccine as well,
but I only got to this. I would say I'm an X Factor
because I've had vaccines, I hadall the travel vaccine, but
having now done the research, those are 10 years of me going
to the libraries in the archives, not just on Google.
I honestly, I'm not sure that any vaccine at the moment is,
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is, is of use. And I would also point out that
I went to a vaccinology course in 2019 at Oxford University,
and I brought up my concerns about the flu vaccine because
that's actually the vaccine thathas the most injuries associated
with and the most award companies sated under the
Childhood Vaccination Compensation Act.
And they all agreed that the fluvaccine was pretty useless.
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You're lucky if you get, you know, 2030% efficacy.
And I asked them, why are you pushing on pregnant women and
why are you pushing on on healthcare workers who sometimes
lose their jobs that they refuseto take it?
And the argument was better thannothing, which for me to give
something which is such a low efficacy to a pregnant woman
where you are risking other, youknow, potential injuries, it's
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best to not give anything. So, and also the fact that
they've combined the vaccines now that people don't have the
choice really if they want to goto a hospital and they have an
injury and they just for instance, want the tetanus shot
in the States, you can't get thetetanus shot on its own and
neither in Switzerland, but you have to get either.
Sometimes the hospitals only haven't stopped the fixing 1.
So that's the only choice you have.
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And I again, what happened with COVID, I think is just many
people now don't trust the wholevaccination program, especially
when you consider, well, they'venever tested them against real
placebos. They haven't been tested for a
long enough time time. There's lots of layers of
assumptions. They only look at antibodies as
a, as a marker for efficacy. They don't compare, you know,
unvaccinated to vaccinated populations to see what the
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other potential diseases, because you might pretend, you
know, measles vaccine might prevent measles infection, but
what if you're risking other kinds of, you know, neurological
or autoimmune diseases as a result?
I mean, I, I had measles, I'd much rather have a one week
infection that can be managed asopposed to a, you know,
potentially chronic disease for the rest of my life that that
warrants medication. And that's the point here is
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efficacy. These things should work.
And we trust our institutions that what they're putting into
our bodies is beneficial to us, not, you know, destructive to
our immune system. We're seeing a lot of cancer
increases where I think it was either McCullough or it might
have been Robert Malone a few months ago was talking about
that autopsies are showing COVIDis in the body.
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The, the mrnas are rewiring the DNAI mean, it's just, it's out.
It's crazy. But I, I want to go back.
The, the thing I think that upset me the most about Pierre
Corey's article this week in Substack, and I know that you
respect him a lot is, is during the period when thousands of
children were dying of SIDS. And it was clear that there had
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to have been a connection because like you said, before
the 60s, SIDS didn't really, I mean, occasionally.
And their solution, which was shocking to me, was just turn
your baby on their back and whenthey go to sleep instead of
their tummy. And Corey makes the point that
for as long as humans have been alive, we, we seem to know how
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to sleep, you know? Credit to a little bit health
professionals who, you know, thevast majority of got into this
business to be able to help people.
And there's obviously the, the, the the kind of issue of having
to accept that maybe something that you've recommended is harm
the baby. There's also sometimes there is
a large lap of time, you know, did they often happens, you
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know, within an hour or a few days of the vaccination.
But if it happens within a week or two, you're less likely to
make the association with the vaccine.
And again, so many people are formatted working.
I can say this now because I work with medical professionals
here in Switzerland, they're so formatted not to even recognize
what potential side effects, including SIDS, can happen after
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vaccines. They, they can't, they can't
make that connection. But it's not just, you know,
everyone's evil and they're all collaborating in this massive
cover up. I think a lot of them are just
unfortunately plain ignorant or don't want to admit it, don't
want to see it. And if the authorities aren't
informing them to look out for these kinds of side effects and
to try and remedy and understandwhy they're occurring because
that's the other thing we know SIDS and and deaths after
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vaccination has been happening for over a century.
But to date, I haven't seen a single study that actually tries
to understand what mechanisms are doing that.
Why is a vaccine able to harm a kid to the point where you know,
the heart stops beating, There'sso much neurological damage that
you know it's not viable for forthe in the case of a pregnant
lady, the fetus to continue developing or the baby to
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continue developing the regressive problems that we see.
There's no understanding betweenbehind the biological mechanisms
behind and this is a huge aspectthat needs to be researched.
But again, if pharmaceutical industries funding the research
or NIH to spend funding the research, it's going to be very
difficult for them to put money towards something that might
question a product that they've been pushing on the public for,
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you know, centuries or a centuryat least.
Unfortunately, it's a question of ignorance and simply not
wanting to make the connection. It's going to be very hard for
them to make that connection. And especially talking to the
death of a baby is a huge thing.Shahs Khan, author of the book
The Ultimate Vaccine Timeline. It's sobering.
Thank you and stay cool. And we'll talk to you again soon
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here around America today.
I am very happy to have back Shahs Khan and she has written a
wonderful book and I've read it.And if you want to, if you are
interested naturally in vaccinesin general, she has done an
incredible job of timelining howvaccines were introduced, how
they're used, how they're developed, everything you ever
wanted to know about vaccines, including a lot of things that
(00:31):
you don't want to know. The ultimate vaccine timeline, a
fact packed history of vaccines and their makers.
Now welcome back to the program.It's good to have you.
Shahs, how are you? Thank you, Jim.
Thank you so much for having me.I'm very good.
Bit hot but all good. Yeah, I hear, I hear too, in the
States too. But guess what?
It's summer. That's a weird thing, you know,
(00:52):
that it became summer all of a sudden and everything got hot.
Imagine that. OK, so a couple of big shaking
things that came out that I wantto get your opinion on.
One is that the vaccines may have a direct link to autism and
#2 Pierre Corey of COVID-19 fame, one of the few that was
(01:14):
able to survive being taken downby questioning the mRNA vaccine.
He came out with an incredible substack exposing the link
between SIDS, which is sudden infant death syndrome.
I think they've changed the nameof it and its direct
relationship to certain vaccinesthat are administered at a young
age. So we'll get to both of that.
(01:34):
So Shahs, first of all, what's what's been, what has happened?
What are they, what are they determining in layman's terms,
how vaccines might have a directlink to autism?
What do you know? Well, from my research, and
again, it's been a historical research and the word autism
wasn't much in the old documents.
Obviously it was more neurological injury and
(01:55):
philosophy. But coming to more recent like
from the 1960s, nineteen 70s andwe start seeing the word autism
come up. It's obviously not as common as
we have now. And the first IOM reports that
we're analyzing the link betweenvaccines and this didn't start
until like 2004. And there were expert witnesses
(02:16):
who I would say one expert witnessed in particular in 2018
who wrote an affidavit. He was an expert witness for the
government under the the childhood vaccine injury
Compensation Program. So for those who don't know,
it's program where if you're injured off the vaccines, you go
to a special vaccine court and you will potentially get
compensation if your case is accepted.
And he was an expert witness defending the government and he
(02:37):
wrote that he did believe that in some susceptible children
that there were triggers of autism following the
vaccination. And after he wrote that
affidavit, which the, the the copy of that text is in the
book, he was dropped as an expert witness because the word
autism and vaccines obviously is, is incredibly triggering, I
think for the institutions, for the, the, the makers as well and
(02:59):
for the government who purchasedthe vaccine.
And also I would say for the doctors who are supposed to be
given enough warning and informed consent to anybody who
gets the vaccine. But the the clearer in in a
historical level was definitely the neurological injuries that
weren't very well documented. Like there were obviously
behavioral impacts that we see today with autistic kids today.
Obviously autism spectrum is very large, very wide spectrums
(03:22):
where you have functioning children who were declared
autistic to the completely non functioning.
We need, you know, 24 hour care.And we saw those injuries with
all types of vaccines already nearly 20th century.
But the recent, recent documentation, I mean, the, as I
said, the Institute of Medicine now called the National Academy
of Sciences, I believe when theydid their immunization safety
(03:45):
review on vaccines and autism, they only looked at thimerosal
containing vaccines and MMR, which obviously was doctor
Wakefield who brought up the potential link between MMR and
gastro symptoms, which were linked to autism.
But they never looked at the whole vaccine schedule.
They never looked at non thimerosal containing vaccines
(04:05):
and they hadn't yet looked at TAP either.
But funnily enough, in 2012, theInstitute of Medicine then came
out with a report where they looked at adverse effects of
vaccines of evidence and causality and therefore autism
under detox. So diphtheria, tetanus and
pertussis, which is whooping cough, they just declared it was
(04:25):
inadequate to accept or reject causation because there was a
lack of scientific evidence. So the question is still very
much open and still needs to be investigated and taken seriously
by the scientific establishment because at the moment they're
not really investing as far as Iknow.
Any research into trying to understand the link between
vaccines and development of autism and also the
(04:47):
susceptibility of certain children may be too developing.
Maybe, you know, you have 10 kids and none of them interact
the same way. What is, is there a genetics
predisposition that makes some kids more susceptible to getting
autism? Is an environmental factors?
Is it a combination of, you know, glycophate in the system
triggering these autism like symptoms when someone goes in
(05:07):
for a vaccine? There are a lot of open
questions still, in my opinion, that need to be resolved.
There is a lot of chatter about aluminum being in a lot of these
vaccines and that could have a deleterious effect on the immune
system. Have you heard any anything
about that? Oh yeah, absolutely.
I mean, the whole reason why they add aluminum to the to the
(05:28):
vaccines is to create an immune reaction because often many of
these vaccines and primarily theinactivated vaccines, but
they're not the live viral vaccines on their own without an
adjuvant, which is what aluminumis, there's no reaction.
So they need to add the aluminumto boost the immune reaction so
that there is, you know, a generation of antibodies or T
cells. And so that's why they used
(05:48):
aluminum or aluminum aluminum inthe vaccines and they've been
using them since the 19 late 1920s.
And still, again, very little scientific study has gone into
understanding, one, the mechanism of aluminum and why it
does, you know, induce the immune reaction.
And 2nd, how can it be, you know, what are the benefits or I
(06:09):
would say rather the, the negative effects that it can
have on the body, especially in the long term when you're
introducing it on a cumulative basis.
Because a lot of these vaccines and you get them, especially the
children, unfortunately, babies,they're getting repeat doses.
What is the impact of aluminum on the system at this age?
And again, it hasn't been studied.
And I was shocked to discover this because I came from
(06:31):
completely kind of neutral, naive approach and was shocked
to find out that they hadn't done sufficient studying on the
adjuvant and aluminum especiallyto find out what the potential
side effects could be on a developing baby.
I, I want to stay on the autism and then and then talk about the
(06:52):
SIDS case because it's very interesting in, in both.
There does not seem to appear tome at least based on, on what
you've written and others have said is what when they mix these
different combinations together so that you have basically a
triple shot MMR being a good example.
How much testing do they do to to find out if there's any
(07:12):
problem with administering all three of those vaccines
simultaneously? And what does that do to the
immune system? It must be overwhelming.
Well, unfortunately, again, my research has come up, they
haven't researched this enough. Like typically with the MMR
vaccine, the three vaccines existed independently.
So you had the single mumps, they had the single measles and
(07:33):
you had the single rubella. And when they were developing
the MMR, they simply tested it against the single vaccine.
So that was their comparative control.
There was no placebo. There was no long term studies
as well to see what the effects are on the on the long term.
And there was no analysis of thesynergistic effects that this
vaccine can have along with for instance, the D tap, which we
(07:54):
know you know, kids will have had by that point.
And nowadays also given the men and meningococcal as well around
12 months. So there has been very, very, in
my opinion, little studying of the, the impacts of these triple
combined vaccines. And you talk with the MMR, but I
mean, now we have the six in onewhere you've got a mix of viral
and bacterial diseases and in one shot.
(08:15):
And it's supposed to be more convenient and obviously easier
for a parent and a pediatrician to administer instead of having
to do 6 separate shots. But the safety testing is
seriously lacking. And that's, that's my biggest
concern that they, they need to go back to the, the drawing
board, I would say, and really analyze the difference in, in
giving single shots, the combined shots and compare them
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to real true placebo controls, which to this day still has not
been done. Shaz Khan is the author of The
Ultimate Vaccine Timeline. I want to get into the money a
little bit. And if you can, can you hang on
it? Because I got about 10 more
questions to ask you. But I do want to do you think
that, I mean, just as an illustrative look at the heat
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that Robert Kennedy is getting for firing basically his entire
committee of vaccine researchersand over at the CDC.
But what they don't tell you is that every single one of the
people that he fired had strong connections to big pharma in
terms of getting money. And so let's talk about that
when we come back. Hang on just a second.
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Welcome back. We are talking with the author
of a great book that you absolutely must get if you care
about healthcare, particularly for your kids, You need to know
what big pharma may be in involved with.
It's not pretty, but it's important and it's good
knowledge to have its ultimate vaccine timeline.
And the author is with us, ShahsKhan from Switzerland, where she
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resides. Let's talk a little bit about
the big, the big pharma connection.
I mean, they are the number one advertiser in the United States
right now. Why don't they allow
pharmaceuticals to advertise on on TV in other countries?
The reason why it's not allowed in most other countries is
because it kind of takes away the, the job of the physician to
inform the patient and not to be, not to have the patient
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influenced by advertising, whichis obviously the whole point of
advertising is to influence behavior.
So I it's interesting that New Zealand is the only other
country. I'm not quite sure why that is.
I guess, again, lobby interest who put, you know, their
influence in, in policy making. But yeah, it's it's mainly
because you don't want to replace the doctor patient
relationship. You certainly don't want to have
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people going into the office andjust basically, you know,
repeating what they've seen on ad TV, which is obviously paid
for, paid for by the pharmaceutical company.
And it almost appears as they write a lot of the ads or news
stories about, you know, like, for example, if there's a flu,
they'll use it as a catapult. This is a reminder that the CDC
recommends that you get your flushot and all that stuff.
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I mean, they're really big on, on, on jacking things into our
arms constantly. It must be hugely profitable.
What kind of profits are we talking about here with, say,
Pfizer or Moderna? Are we talking billions of
dollars in in annual profits? Yeah.
Absolutely. I mean, Pfizer, Pfizer thanks to
COVID and their and their injection blew basically the
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record in 2022, I believe it waswhere they, they for the first
time any pharmaceutical company went over 100 billion in sales,
annual sales worldwide. And that was thanks to the sales
of commonities of their mRNA vaccine.
But in general, yeah, their, their profits are definitely in
the billions. People tend to believe that
vaccines aren't big money makers, and they used to not be,
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but now they are, and they can be a significant source of
income for the Pharmaceutical industry.
And they represent about the 10 we've been trying about 15 to
20% sometimes of the annual sales of to the vaccine
manufacturers. So like GSK, Merck, Sanofi and
Pfizer, obviously, which are theBIG4.
Now Moderna has come into the, to the play also Johnson and
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Johnson, Durham Institute, Indiais actually the biggest
pharmaceutical manufacturer of vaccines by doses, but not by
the by, not by profits, because they sell most of their vaccines
to Gabby and UNICEF, but they they're definitely but into the
billions. Absolutely.
And you have to remember they have no risk involved with
vaccines. So if there are any damages,
it's not them who pays the bill,it's the the the taxpayer.
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You know, Bill Gates has gotten a lot of criticism from places
like Nigeria where they were sterilizing under the auspices
of giving them vaccines. Do you know anything about that?
And I think it was either, I think it was Nigeria where the
president actually told UNICEF or whoever was involved, go
away. We don't want you.
You're you didn't tell us you were sterilizing our children.
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Isn't that shocking to? You yeah, it is absolutely
shocking. And it wasn't only in Nigeria,
it also was in Kenya, Nicaragua and the Philippines and Mexico.
And I believe again, sorry, my my date exactly.
I can't remember off the top of my head, but I believe was
already in the 90s where there were suspicion around a tetanus
vaccine campaign. It was aimed at only pubescent
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girls and they were giving them several doses, like up to 5-6
doses. And they started investigating
and looking at the vials and they found anti HDG, which is
human, human gonna cropin. I'm going to say it wrong,
sorry. Human chrono cropin, which is
basically a hormone that is necessary to become pregnant and
it was an anti this. So it was creating antibodies
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and the people were receiving this against pregnancy.
Obviously The Who, they denied all of this and UNICEF denied
this as well. But there were at least four
countries who who recognizes andstop the vaccination campaign.
As a result, I'm not surprised that Nigeria came out against
Bill Gates. But we're not talking about
being against vaccines. There are vaccines that are
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perfectly acceptable and, and they're very effective, right?
I'm trying to be diplomatic because obviously, I mean,
everyone's going to accuse me ofbeing an anti vaccine as well,
but I only got to this. I would say I'm an X Factor
because I've had vaccines, I hadall the travel vaccine, but
having now done the research, those are 10 years of me going
to the libraries in the archives, not just on Google.
I honestly, I'm not sure that any vaccine at the moment is,
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is, is of use. And I would also point out that
I went to a vaccinology course in 2019 at Oxford University,
and I brought up my concerns about the flu vaccine because
that's actually the vaccine thathas the most injuries associated
with and the most award companies sated under the
Childhood Vaccination Compensation Act.
And they all agreed that the fluvaccine was pretty useless.
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You're lucky if you get, you know, 2030% efficacy.
And I asked them, why are you pushing on pregnant women and
why are you pushing on on healthcare workers who sometimes
lose their jobs that they refuseto take it?
And the argument was better thannothing, which for me to give
something which is such a low efficacy to a pregnant woman
where you are risking other, youknow, potential injuries, it's
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best to not give anything. So, and also the fact that
they've combined the vaccines now that people don't have the
choice really if they want to goto a hospital and they have an
injury and they just for instance, want the tetanus shot
in the States, you can't get thetetanus shot on its own and
neither in Switzerland, but you have to get either.
Sometimes the hospitals only haven't stopped the fixing 1.
So that's the only choice you have.
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And I again, what happened with COVID, I think is just many
people now don't trust the wholevaccination program, especially
when you consider, well, they'venever tested them against real
placebos. They haven't been tested for a
long enough time time. There's lots of layers of
assumptions. They only look at antibodies as
a, as a marker for efficacy. They don't compare, you know,
unvaccinated to vaccinated populations to see what the
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other potential diseases, because you might pretend, you
know, measles vaccine might prevent measles infection, but
what if you're risking other kinds of, you know, neurological
or autoimmune diseases as a result?
I mean, I, I had measles, I'd much rather have a one week
infection that can be managed asopposed to a, you know,
potentially chronic disease for the rest of my life that that
warrants medication. And that's the point here is
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efficacy. These things should work.
And we trust our institutions that what they're putting into
our bodies is beneficial to us, not, you know, destructive to
our immune system. We're seeing a lot of cancer
increases where I think it was either McCullough or it might
have been Robert Malone a few months ago was talking about
that autopsies are showing COVIDis in the body.
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The, the mrnas are rewiring the DNAI mean, it's just, it's out.
It's crazy. But I, I want to go back.
The, the thing I think that upset me the most about Pierre
Corey's article this week in Substack, and I know that you
respect him a lot is, is during the period when thousands of
children were dying of SIDS. And it was clear that there had
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to have been a connection because like you said, before
the 60s, SIDS didn't really, I mean, occasionally.
And their solution, which was shocking to me, was just turn
your baby on their back and whenthey go to sleep instead of
their tummy. And Corey makes the point that
for as long as humans have been alive, we, we seem to know how
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to sleep, you know? Credit to a little bit health
professionals who, you know, thevast majority of got into this
business to be able to help people.
And there's obviously the, the, the the kind of issue of having
to accept that maybe something that you've recommended is harm
the baby. There's also sometimes there is
a large lap of time, you know, did they often happens, you
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know, within an hour or a few days of the vaccination.
But if it happens within a week or two, you're less likely to
make the association with the vaccine.
And again, so many people are formatted working.
I can say this now because I work with medical professionals
here in Switzerland, they're so formatted not to even recognize
what potential side effects, including SIDS, can happen after
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vaccines. They, they can't, they can't
make that connection. But it's not just, you know,
everyone's evil and they're all collaborating in this massive
cover up. I think a lot of them are just
unfortunately plain ignorant or don't want to admit it, don't
want to see it. And if the authorities aren't
informing them to look out for these kinds of side effects and
to try and remedy and understandwhy they're occurring because
that's the other thing we know SIDS and and deaths after
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vaccination has been happening for over a century.
But to date, I haven't seen a single study that actually tries
to understand what mechanisms are doing that.
Why is a vaccine able to harm a kid to the point where you know,
the heart stops beating, There'sso much neurological damage that
you know it's not viable for forthe in the case of a pregnant
lady, the fetus to continue developing or the baby to
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continue developing the regressive problems that we see.
There's no understanding betweenbehind the biological mechanisms
behind and this is a huge aspectthat needs to be researched.
But again, if pharmaceutical industries funding the research
or NIH to spend funding the research, it's going to be very
difficult for them to put money towards something that might
question a product that they've been pushing on the public for,
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you know, centuries or a centuryat least.
Unfortunately, it's a question of ignorance and simply not
wanting to make the connection. It's going to be very hard for
them to make that connection. And especially talking to the
death of a baby is a huge thing.Shahs Khan, author of the book
The Ultimate Vaccine Timeline. It's sobering.
Thank you and stay cool. And we'll talk to you again soon
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