July 25, 2025 • 19 mins
Attorney Leslie Corbly joins us to discuss Adam Schiff's alleged mortgage fraud - which now gives the US Senator a reason to be nervous as the Justice Department digs deeper into intelligence efforts to undermine the Trump presidency.
Schiff's alleged abuse of power goes back decades, some revealed here for the first time, including his ties to Ed Buck, a political supporter who is now serving a prison sentence for killing two gay men at a West Hollywood Hotel.
Oh, what wicked webs we weave....
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(00:05):
He's out there operating withoutany decent restraint, totally
beyond the pale any acceptable human conduct.
CBR street gang. Charging a man with murder in
this place was like handing out speeding tickets at the Indy
500. That rig, that would be me.
Hey, welcome to another edition of America TODAY.
(00:27):
Jim Watkins here, turn this down.
I got my cup of coffee and I am ready for a weekend edition.
We got a lot of good sound feeling a little bit.
I got to check something here, if you don't mind.
I'll do this if I can. There's a little bit of hum or
(00:47):
something. Turn that off.
All right. Maybe that's better.
Is that better? Yeah.
OK. All right.
So I was thumbing through Instagram today.
By the way, we have a really good show.
We're going to be talking to Leslie Corbley.
She is an attorney. She's been on before.
She wrote a book recently about how the culture of mommyhood has
(01:10):
taken a dark turn. And a lot of mothers are are
actually doing very naughty things with their children
mentally. And you've seen that a lot of,
like, Hollywood actresses. Jessica Biel.
I mean, I was surprised to hear that.
Jessica Biel. And who's that other gal?
(01:32):
Jennifer Garner. And then Charlize Theron.
Is that it? Yeah.
They all have transgender kids, I think.
I think Cher was the first person that kind of went that
way. And you of course, know my
position on transgenderism. I see it for what it is, which
(01:54):
is gender dysphoria or fetishismfor older men, men that like to
dress up as drag. It's nothing new to society.
Men have been doing that. But it's sexually driven and
sexually motivated, unlike youngchildren who make decisions
about their sexual identity. They're either following a trend
(02:16):
or it's group pressure. But the parents who get involved
with this sort of strange ideology are essentially
duplicating Munchausen by proxy.It's attention getting, it's
what they talk about it those very important social parties.
And it's, it's a status to be able to say that you have a
(02:39):
child who's transgender. It's virtuous in the in the
circles and it's sad. And it it sort of exhibits
itself as devouring mothers, mothers who use their children
to get attention and to feel special and relevant.
And so Leslie is a family attorney.
I think she's in Boise, maybe. Anyway, she knows a lot about
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law. And she has uncovered the fact
that Adam Schiff, the US senatorrecently elected, could be
facing some jail time for, of all things, mortgage fraud,
which is exactly what they went after with Trump in New York.
And it involved two places of residence, one in California in
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Burbank, which was a one bedroomapartment in Burbank.
And then he also had his residency in Maryland.
And he claimed when he was applying for I think it had
maybe taxes, but certainly when he was negotiating rates and
maybe trying to get a loan, he declared that his Maryland,
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first of all, he he was as he was a sitting US Congressman
Adam Schiff. So he should be a resident of
California. When you're representing your
district in California, you're supposed to be living in your
district. And he had the one bedroom
apartment, but he also mainly stayed in Washington, DC And so
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he declared that as also his primary residence.
And that is against the law. And he could be facing jail
time. I'm not sure.
But Leslie Corbley will be along.
I happen to have information on Schiff that I would have to get,
you know, witness testimony. But I'm pretty sure it's
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accurate because back in the early 90s, Schiff was very much
a part of the Hollywood scene where basically you had a bunch
of pedophiles running and, and still still, some of them are
still there. You guys might remember Ed Buck,
Ed Buck. Ed Buck was a heavy political
donor who also had a thing for gay black men and he would
(04:50):
poison them and then have his way with him.
He was a good friend of Hillary Clinton's.
He was a heavy donor to the Democratic Party, and we can
only assume that that included Adam Schiff since he represents
a lot of those folks who live ona Mulholland Dr. and Beverly
Hills, and his district is is pretty well scattered with the
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Hollywood elite who supported him for all those years.
And of course that would includepeople like Rob Reiner who hate
Trump. And so he did their bidding.
I'm imagining there was a conversation at what point with
Adam Schiff with his buddies, perhaps as they were driving
down Sunset Blvd. at 2:00 AM looking for Pretty Little boys.
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I'm sure there was a conversation or two from men in
dark suits telling Adam he knowswhat his mission is and his
mission is to take down Donald Trump, which would explain why
he spent the the last four yearsaccusing Trump of everything,
everything from Russian collusion to whatever.
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Now he's on to Epstein. So you know, Adam Schiff is not
a a man who I would consider to be of great integrity.
So how do all this plays in, I think in the current situation
is that they've got something onAdam Schiff, mortgage fraud.
And they could go after him and he could spend many, many years
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in jail or he could be paying a lot of fines.
And it would certainly besmirch his his record.
Or he could he could squeal because he is also part of the
intelligence community. I'm sure that he's have has
close ties with Clapper and all those guys who are lawyering up.
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So, you know, it might turn out to be that Adam Schiff could be
the Canary in the coal mine and all of this.
Interesting. So we'll talk to Leslie Corbly
about that in just a little bit.And I, and I didn't mean to go
on, you know, waxing philosophicand all this, but Adam Schiff
has been the center of corruption in California, in my
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opinion, along with Nancy Pelosiand Kamala Harris.
Those three along with Gavin Newsom, are the worst things
that have ever happened to the once beautiful state of
California, of which I call myself a former resident and
part time visitor. And so, you know, this is going
to untangle itself. And he's still on TV even though
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he was censored by the Senate spreading propaganda and lies
about Donald Trump. So I think perhaps a little
retribution is in order for Senator Schiff.
I'm surprised that he's a senator.
I just can't believe it. And, and so I want to play for
you. We're going to have to play for
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we're going to do Leslie in the next segment.
And then after that on America TODAY, I want to play with you a
play for you, A clip from CurtisLewa.
Now Curtis is running as the Republican candidate, the only
Republican candidate for the city of New York for the
mayorship. And that election is not that
far away. And I've told you, and if you
(08:07):
haven't heard, I met Curtis decades ago through some mutual
friends and radio. We all had dinner at this huge
convention. And I'd already known of the guy
who hasn't heard of the, you know, the Guardian Angels, this
rogue group of people that decided to take back their city
because there was so much crime.And Curtis created this
(08:28):
organization for many, many years, they walked the streets
of night at night in New York City, preventing people from
getting mugged and robbed and raped.
And you would think that he would.
I think he is a hero. I think he is a hero in New
York. But but for the fact that he's a
Republican. And this is where things get
(08:49):
interesting because New Yorkers have a real choice, in my
opinion. They have a real choice.
They can get a man of integrity,someone who literally walks the
walk and talks the talk and, andI want to play for you something
that I've never seen before everin my life.
And I'll give you some descriptors.
(09:10):
But the audio is good enough. You'll be able to hear the
audio. He is standing next to three
drug addicts in the middle of the day at 55th and 7th, and
he's doing a commercial and it'sa may.
I've never seen this before. And if that doesn't turn the
page for the city of New York, Idon't know what will.
(09:31):
The city of New York has its future in its own hands.
And if they decide to go with Mamdani, which is what is
expected, it is the end of New York.
It is the end of New York, just like it was the end of
California when Gavin, Gavin Newsom was not recalled.
We'll get to all this and more, plus sound bites from the week
(09:54):
You're listening to America TODAY.
Jim Watkins. Hang on.
Yeah. You know, it's so great to have
you back on the program. We've had Leslie on before.
(10:14):
She's a family attorney by trade, but she also has written
an incredible book about the state of motherhood.
And you absolutely got to read. It's called Devouring Children
or Devouring Mothers, and it's just exposing the devouring
mother that is permeating the current culture.
Why? I don't know.
But if we. Read the book.
(10:35):
We'll learn from Leslie. And we're here to talk about
another kind of scoundrel, somebody who has recently been
elected to the Senate after serving more than 20 years as
California's congressman, some call him.
Shifty Schiff, he's. Adam Schiff And you're here to
talk law. Today with us, Adam Schiff could
(10:56):
face arrest. He could be headed.
To prison for fraud, can you bring us up to speed on what's
going on with. Shifty Schiff.
I'm sure. So he's been accused now of
mortgage fraud, I suppose, by the Trump, by Donald Trump.
Trump made a true social post about this and there's
allegations that he again was engaging in mortgage fraud.
So it's interesting to remind listeners that that's what, you
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know, some of this fraudulent applications as it relates to
mortgage and lending is also what got Donald Trump in
trouble. That's what his detractors were.
You know, that's why he was indicted ultimately.
And, you know, yeah, so it's kind of, you know, just a
reminder that that's what led tohis criminal charges and
criminal indictment. So the story.
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Goes it. When he was congressman, since
going way back, you got it. There's a rule that if you're
going to be a congressman, you have to actually live in the
area that you represent. Amazing how that works, right?
But that that's the point. Behind the representative.
Part of our. Democracy.
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But but according to what I know, Adam Schiff's home, it was
in Burbank in a one bedroom flat, I think on the upper floor
of an apartment building. And you would ask yourself,
well, how on earth can AUS congressman function properly in
a one bedroom apartment when he's got three kids and a wife?
And but that's. What he declared as his primary.
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Residence So. Yes.
How does that work? Absolutely.
So I'm what he's seen essentially has said, at least
what I've seen that they've saidis that he was claiming both as
a primary residence because he was spending so much time in the
DC metro area that he would functionally be at both
locations year round. So I think that there's,
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obviously it's not uncommon for those who are in Congress to
also have residences in the DC metro area that may include
Maryland. But what's unclear is the extent
which you could, from a lending standpoint, claim both as a
primary residence. It's not really my area of
expertise from a legal standpoint.
But it's comes with no surprise that, you know, Congressman or
now Senator Schiff was attempting to utilize the rules
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of his favour and perhaps bend them to the extent possible in
order to gain results that were favourable to him, maybe in a
manner that perhaps wouldn't be as likely to work for the
average Joe. A simple.
I do think it's, I think it's important as well to put this in
the broader political context ofthe allegations that got Trump
in legal trouble, as well as understanding, you know, the one
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of the big reasons that Trump has been so popular for so long
is his ability to point out sortof the hypocritical nature of
what a lot of high, highly influential progressive
Democrats have been the kind of behavior been engaging in,
right. So they'll decry him for his
corruption while engaging more or less the same act.
So you saw something similar in the first one of the first
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debates he did well, actually this debate with Hillary Clinton
during the 2016 presidential election cycle where he talked
about how she wouldn't change the tax code because she knows
that herself and those she's close with benefit from it.
So again, this whole idea that Trump can kind of cut through
that and people believe him. And to some degree is I think
the reason that the allegations and the criticisms of him don't
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stick as much as if he doesn't have the same political
background. He hasn't really been
championing, you know, these sort of bleeding heart
progressive causes that a lot ofDemocrats have that make them
look frankly, far more hypocritical, right?
It's almost more like a Ken to when a church leader is accused
of bad sexual acts, right? You kind of expect a rock star
to engage in that behavior. That's what we think you can
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kind of compare Trump to in thisscenario.
He's he's kind of always been brazen, kind of consistent in
that behavior, whereas you wouldexpect the pastor right, to be
maybe more faithful to his wife.So that's kind of, I think, a
good analogy to look at. Well, certainly, because look at
somebody like P Diddy. I mean, clearly everybody could
see that he had a wild lifestyle.
It wasn't a surprise, you know, And I might as well ask you
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because it is kind of important.Do you think why do you think he
got off with such a light sentence considering all the
video that we saw and the the behavior that we knew P Diddy
was into not to get our. Eye off of shift, but Are you
sure? What?
Was your assessment of that? Whole situation I.
Don't know. It's really hard to tell, right?
In these high profile situations, it's hard to know
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exactly what what leads to the result.
You know, I mean, I think right now it is safe to say that we're
in a, a culture where corruptionis pretty unfortunately
mainstream and there's a lot of power that backs it.
So I mean, really there's just, I suppose you want to speculate
that ultimately I think in the era we're in, I'm not shocked.
I wish I were, but I'm really not.
That's just kind of part and parcel of of I think part of the
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way culture and our society functions at this time.
So unfortunately, well, I think it's perhaps disheartening.
It's not really surprising. I want to so is there any way
that shift being on the Internet, on the intelligence
committee any? Do you see?
His hands dirty and all of this what we're finding out of about
how the Obamas allegedly conspired to undermine Trump by
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putting out false information and getting the media.
Do you see Adam Schiff connectedin that inner circle anywhere?
Does he Sure sounds like he's nervous.
I certainly won't be surprised. I mean, right, not not only
because of what you've mentioned, but just because of
how clearly it was, it was such a coordinated effort that I
think is coming to light. And my hope is that we learn
(16:26):
more about that in the coming, you know, days and weeks.
But it's hard to know exactly who was involved and what extent
they were involved, right? So you may end up with people
who were involved maybe just by being aware a pardon of certain
things they should have disclosed but did not.
And then you probably have thosewho are much more had their
fingers in the pot, so to speak.And we're we're far more driving
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the conspiracy forward. I don't know.
You know, I think we're still kind of, it's very much unknown
in that regard. But certainly what came out from
what is increasing what is coming out is I don't think
surprising at all. I mean, I think for some time
we've the public has known that the entire Russia collusion hoax
was a hoax, that there were powerful actors in U.S.
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government behind that that wentfar beyond just Obama, right?
No one person could have made that kind of a conspiracy
happen. You need to quite a few
individuals acting in concert for that to be possible.
And frankly, high-ranking individuals just couldn't have
been, you know, low like low ranking people who didn't know a
whole lot. So yeah, I think we're going to
continue to see who was really highly involved.
But it certainly wouldn't shock me if someone like Adam Schiff
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became, you know, declare or wasit declare on that.
From your league, from your legal perspective, in your
acumen, do you think all of thatrises to the level of treason?
Because it's a pretty serious offense punishable by death
according to the Constitution. I mean, I don't, I don't, it's,
it's interesting 'cause some of these things we just don't have
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precedent for, you know, what really is treason?
We, we haven't really teased that out legally at all.
It's certainly criminal. I mean, certainly crimes were, I
think involved, I think you could argue certainly treason
is. I mean, you know, he was the
elected president of the US And so, I mean, I think the terms
such as soft coup or coup or andtreason are certainly
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appropriate to describe it. Now, what our system does with
that kind of treason, I don't know, right?
I mean, we haven't really seen anything like this in U.S.
history that I'm aware of. I don't really have much of A
president to turn to as as far as how to deal with with
something that rises to this level.
And the last time you would havehad major issues of treason that
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I can think of would be the Civil War, right?
And they kind of dealt with thatin a different manner, right?
Obviously it's, you know, you had, yeah, you had things that
were dealt with as far as if youhad served as a Confederate in
the Confederate Army, so on and so forth.
Like there was, there were just issues surrounding that
historically. My memory calls it could be
wrong, but I think that then President Buchanan had armed the
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South the last six months that he was in office so that they
could rise up and rebel and he moved over.
That would have been very treasonous because again, he's
undermining the incoming administration from being able
to do their job and putting themin harm's way, which is exactly
what we're talking about here. I, I want to talk to you again
and in your book that's out is very important.
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I want to encourage folks to getthe book because it's important.
It's called progressive prejudice, exposing the
devouring mother, and it talks. About today's culture.
With moms and and, and their behavior and what kind of kids
we're producing as as a result of it.
So we'll have you back on again.And I do appreciate you coming
on today and talking to us. About this particular.
Event Leslie Corbally, thank youso much.
(19:40):
Thanks so much for having me. Hang on now.
America Today continues here. Jim Watkins, don't forget to
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Website Jim Watkins dot. ORG.
He's out there operating withoutany decent restraint, totally
beyond the pale any acceptable human conduct.
CBR street gang. Charging a man with murder in
this place was like handing out speeding tickets at the Indy
500. That rig, that would be me.
Hey, welcome to another edition of America TODAY.
(00:27):
Jim Watkins here, turn this down.
I got my cup of coffee and I am ready for a weekend edition.
We got a lot of good sound feeling a little bit.
I got to check something here, if you don't mind.
I'll do this if I can. There's a little bit of hum or
(00:47):
something. Turn that off.
All right. Maybe that's better.
Is that better? Yeah.
OK. All right.
So I was thumbing through Instagram today.
By the way, we have a really good show.
We're going to be talking to Leslie Corbley.
She is an attorney. She's been on before.
She wrote a book recently about how the culture of mommyhood has
(01:10):
taken a dark turn. And a lot of mothers are are
actually doing very naughty things with their children
mentally. And you've seen that a lot of,
like, Hollywood actresses. Jessica Biel.
I mean, I was surprised to hear that.
Jessica Biel. And who's that other gal?
(01:32):
Jennifer Garner. And then Charlize Theron.
Is that it? Yeah.
They all have transgender kids, I think.
I think Cher was the first person that kind of went that
way. And you of course, know my
position on transgenderism. I see it for what it is, which
(01:54):
is gender dysphoria or fetishismfor older men, men that like to
dress up as drag. It's nothing new to society.
Men have been doing that. But it's sexually driven and
sexually motivated, unlike youngchildren who make decisions
about their sexual identity. They're either following a trend
(02:16):
or it's group pressure. But the parents who get involved
with this sort of strange ideology are essentially
duplicating Munchausen by proxy.It's attention getting, it's
what they talk about it those very important social parties.
And it's, it's a status to be able to say that you have a
(02:39):
child who's transgender. It's virtuous in the in the
circles and it's sad. And it it sort of exhibits
itself as devouring mothers, mothers who use their children
to get attention and to feel special and relevant.
And so Leslie is a family attorney.
I think she's in Boise, maybe. Anyway, she knows a lot about
(03:02):
law. And she has uncovered the fact
that Adam Schiff, the US senatorrecently elected, could be
facing some jail time for, of all things, mortgage fraud,
which is exactly what they went after with Trump in New York.
And it involved two places of residence, one in California in
(03:23):
Burbank, which was a one bedroomapartment in Burbank.
And then he also had his residency in Maryland.
And he claimed when he was applying for I think it had
maybe taxes, but certainly when he was negotiating rates and
maybe trying to get a loan, he declared that his Maryland,
(03:45):
first of all, he he was as he was a sitting US Congressman
Adam Schiff. So he should be a resident of
California. When you're representing your
district in California, you're supposed to be living in your
district. And he had the one bedroom
apartment, but he also mainly stayed in Washington, DC And so
(04:05):
he declared that as also his primary residence.
And that is against the law. And he could be facing jail
time. I'm not sure.
But Leslie Corbley will be along.
I happen to have information on Schiff that I would have to get,
you know, witness testimony. But I'm pretty sure it's
(04:25):
accurate because back in the early 90s, Schiff was very much
a part of the Hollywood scene where basically you had a bunch
of pedophiles running and, and still still, some of them are
still there. You guys might remember Ed Buck,
Ed Buck. Ed Buck was a heavy political
donor who also had a thing for gay black men and he would
(04:50):
poison them and then have his way with him.
He was a good friend of Hillary Clinton's.
He was a heavy donor to the Democratic Party, and we can
only assume that that included Adam Schiff since he represents
a lot of those folks who live ona Mulholland Dr. and Beverly
Hills, and his district is is pretty well scattered with the
(05:11):
Hollywood elite who supported him for all those years.
And of course that would includepeople like Rob Reiner who hate
Trump. And so he did their bidding.
I'm imagining there was a conversation at what point with
Adam Schiff with his buddies, perhaps as they were driving
down Sunset Blvd. at 2:00 AM looking for Pretty Little boys.
(05:35):
I'm sure there was a conversation or two from men in
dark suits telling Adam he knowswhat his mission is and his
mission is to take down Donald Trump, which would explain why
he spent the the last four yearsaccusing Trump of everything,
everything from Russian collusion to whatever.
(05:55):
Now he's on to Epstein. So you know, Adam Schiff is not
a a man who I would consider to be of great integrity.
So how do all this plays in, I think in the current situation
is that they've got something onAdam Schiff, mortgage fraud.
And they could go after him and he could spend many, many years
(06:18):
in jail or he could be paying a lot of fines.
And it would certainly besmirch his his record.
Or he could he could squeal because he is also part of the
intelligence community. I'm sure that he's have has
close ties with Clapper and all those guys who are lawyering up.
(06:42):
So, you know, it might turn out to be that Adam Schiff could be
the Canary in the coal mine and all of this.
Interesting. So we'll talk to Leslie Corbly
about that in just a little bit.And I, and I didn't mean to go
on, you know, waxing philosophicand all this, but Adam Schiff
has been the center of corruption in California, in my
(07:03):
opinion, along with Nancy Pelosiand Kamala Harris.
Those three along with Gavin Newsom, are the worst things
that have ever happened to the once beautiful state of
California, of which I call myself a former resident and
part time visitor. And so, you know, this is going
to untangle itself. And he's still on TV even though
(07:25):
he was censored by the Senate spreading propaganda and lies
about Donald Trump. So I think perhaps a little
retribution is in order for Senator Schiff.
I'm surprised that he's a senator.
I just can't believe it. And, and so I want to play for
you. We're going to have to play for
(07:46):
we're going to do Leslie in the next segment.
And then after that on America TODAY, I want to play with you a
play for you, A clip from CurtisLewa.
Now Curtis is running as the Republican candidate, the only
Republican candidate for the city of New York for the
mayorship. And that election is not that
far away. And I've told you, and if you
(08:07):
haven't heard, I met Curtis decades ago through some mutual
friends and radio. We all had dinner at this huge
convention. And I'd already known of the guy
who hasn't heard of the, you know, the Guardian Angels, this
rogue group of people that decided to take back their city
because there was so much crime.And Curtis created this
(08:28):
organization for many, many years, they walked the streets
of night at night in New York City, preventing people from
getting mugged and robbed and raped.
And you would think that he would.
I think he is a hero. I think he is a hero in New
York. But but for the fact that he's a
Republican. And this is where things get
(08:49):
interesting because New Yorkers have a real choice, in my
opinion. They have a real choice.
They can get a man of integrity,someone who literally walks the
walk and talks the talk and, andI want to play for you something
that I've never seen before everin my life.
And I'll give you some descriptors.
(09:10):
But the audio is good enough. You'll be able to hear the
audio. He is standing next to three
drug addicts in the middle of the day at 55th and 7th, and
he's doing a commercial and it'sa may.
I've never seen this before. And if that doesn't turn the
page for the city of New York, Idon't know what will.
(09:31):
The city of New York has its future in its own hands.
And if they decide to go with Mamdani, which is what is
expected, it is the end of New York.
It is the end of New York, just like it was the end of
California when Gavin, Gavin Newsom was not recalled.
We'll get to all this and more, plus sound bites from the week
(09:54):
You're listening to America TODAY.
Jim Watkins. Hang on.
Yeah. You know, it's so great to have
you back on the program. We've had Leslie on before.
(10:14):
She's a family attorney by trade, but she also has written
an incredible book about the state of motherhood.
And you absolutely got to read. It's called Devouring Children
or Devouring Mothers, and it's just exposing the devouring
mother that is permeating the current culture.
Why? I don't know.
But if we. Read the book.
(10:35):
We'll learn from Leslie. And we're here to talk about
another kind of scoundrel, somebody who has recently been
elected to the Senate after serving more than 20 years as
California's congressman, some call him.
Shifty Schiff, he's. Adam Schiff And you're here to
talk law. Today with us, Adam Schiff could
(10:56):
face arrest. He could be headed.
To prison for fraud, can you bring us up to speed on what's
going on with. Shifty Schiff.
I'm sure. So he's been accused now of
mortgage fraud, I suppose, by the Trump, by Donald Trump.
Trump made a true social post about this and there's
allegations that he again was engaging in mortgage fraud.
So it's interesting to remind listeners that that's what, you
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know, some of this fraudulent applications as it relates to
mortgage and lending is also what got Donald Trump in
trouble. That's what his detractors were.
You know, that's why he was indicted ultimately.
And, you know, yeah, so it's kind of, you know, just a
reminder that that's what led tohis criminal charges and
criminal indictment. So the story.
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Goes it. When he was congressman, since
going way back, you got it. There's a rule that if you're
going to be a congressman, you have to actually live in the
area that you represent. Amazing how that works, right?
But that that's the point. Behind the representative.
Part of our. Democracy.
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But but according to what I know, Adam Schiff's home, it was
in Burbank in a one bedroom flat, I think on the upper floor
of an apartment building. And you would ask yourself,
well, how on earth can AUS congressman function properly in
a one bedroom apartment when he's got three kids and a wife?
And but that's. What he declared as his primary.
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Residence So. Yes.
How does that work? Absolutely.
So I'm what he's seen essentially has said, at least
what I've seen that they've saidis that he was claiming both as
a primary residence because he was spending so much time in the
DC metro area that he would functionally be at both
locations year round. So I think that there's,
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obviously it's not uncommon for those who are in Congress to
also have residences in the DC metro area that may include
Maryland. But what's unclear is the extent
which you could, from a lending standpoint, claim both as a
primary residence. It's not really my area of
expertise from a legal standpoint.
But it's comes with no surprise that, you know, Congressman or
now Senator Schiff was attempting to utilize the rules
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of his favour and perhaps bend them to the extent possible in
order to gain results that were favourable to him, maybe in a
manner that perhaps wouldn't be as likely to work for the
average Joe. A simple.
I do think it's, I think it's important as well to put this in
the broader political context ofthe allegations that got Trump
in legal trouble, as well as understanding, you know, the one
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of the big reasons that Trump has been so popular for so long
is his ability to point out sortof the hypocritical nature of
what a lot of high, highly influential progressive
Democrats have been the kind of behavior been engaging in,
right. So they'll decry him for his
corruption while engaging more or less the same act.
So you saw something similar in the first one of the first
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debates he did well, actually this debate with Hillary Clinton
during the 2016 presidential election cycle where he talked
about how she wouldn't change the tax code because she knows
that herself and those she's close with benefit from it.
So again, this whole idea that Trump can kind of cut through
that and people believe him. And to some degree is I think
the reason that the allegations and the criticisms of him don't
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stick as much as if he doesn't have the same political
background. He hasn't really been
championing, you know, these sort of bleeding heart
progressive causes that a lot ofDemocrats have that make them
look frankly, far more hypocritical, right?
It's almost more like a Ken to when a church leader is accused
of bad sexual acts, right? You kind of expect a rock star
to engage in that behavior. That's what we think you can
(14:36):
kind of compare Trump to in thisscenario.
He's he's kind of always been brazen, kind of consistent in
that behavior, whereas you wouldexpect the pastor right, to be
maybe more faithful to his wife.So that's kind of, I think, a
good analogy to look at. Well, certainly, because look at
somebody like P Diddy. I mean, clearly everybody could
see that he had a wild lifestyle.
It wasn't a surprise, you know, And I might as well ask you
(14:59):
because it is kind of important.Do you think why do you think he
got off with such a light sentence considering all the
video that we saw and the the behavior that we knew P Diddy
was into not to get our. Eye off of shift, but Are you
sure? What?
Was your assessment of that? Whole situation I.
Don't know. It's really hard to tell, right?
In these high profile situations, it's hard to know
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exactly what what leads to the result.
You know, I mean, I think right now it is safe to say that we're
in a, a culture where corruptionis pretty unfortunately
mainstream and there's a lot of power that backs it.
So I mean, really there's just, I suppose you want to speculate
that ultimately I think in the era we're in, I'm not shocked.
I wish I were, but I'm really not.
That's just kind of part and parcel of of I think part of the
(15:42):
way culture and our society functions at this time.
So unfortunately, well, I think it's perhaps disheartening.
It's not really surprising. I want to so is there any way
that shift being on the Internet, on the intelligence
committee any? Do you see?
His hands dirty and all of this what we're finding out of about
how the Obamas allegedly conspired to undermine Trump by
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putting out false information and getting the media.
Do you see Adam Schiff connectedin that inner circle anywhere?
Does he Sure sounds like he's nervous.
I certainly won't be surprised. I mean, right, not not only
because of what you've mentioned, but just because of
how clearly it was, it was such a coordinated effort that I
think is coming to light. And my hope is that we learn
(16:26):
more about that in the coming, you know, days and weeks.
But it's hard to know exactly who was involved and what extent
they were involved, right? So you may end up with people
who were involved maybe just by being aware a pardon of certain
things they should have disclosed but did not.
And then you probably have thosewho are much more had their
fingers in the pot, so to speak.And we're we're far more driving
(16:47):
the conspiracy forward. I don't know.
You know, I think we're still kind of, it's very much unknown
in that regard. But certainly what came out from
what is increasing what is coming out is I don't think
surprising at all. I mean, I think for some time
we've the public has known that the entire Russia collusion hoax
was a hoax, that there were powerful actors in U.S.
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government behind that that wentfar beyond just Obama, right?
No one person could have made that kind of a conspiracy
happen. You need to quite a few
individuals acting in concert for that to be possible.
And frankly, high-ranking individuals just couldn't have
been, you know, low like low ranking people who didn't know a
whole lot. So yeah, I think we're going to
continue to see who was really highly involved.
But it certainly wouldn't shock me if someone like Adam Schiff
(17:31):
became, you know, declare or wasit declare on that.
From your league, from your legal perspective, in your
acumen, do you think all of thatrises to the level of treason?
Because it's a pretty serious offense punishable by death
according to the Constitution. I mean, I don't, I don't, it's,
it's interesting 'cause some of these things we just don't have
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precedent for, you know, what really is treason?
We, we haven't really teased that out legally at all.
It's certainly criminal. I mean, certainly crimes were, I
think involved, I think you could argue certainly treason
is. I mean, you know, he was the
elected president of the US And so, I mean, I think the terms
such as soft coup or coup or andtreason are certainly
(18:14):
appropriate to describe it. Now, what our system does with
that kind of treason, I don't know, right?
I mean, we haven't really seen anything like this in U.S.
history that I'm aware of. I don't really have much of A
president to turn to as as far as how to deal with with
something that rises to this level.
And the last time you would havehad major issues of treason that
(18:36):
I can think of would be the Civil War, right?
And they kind of dealt with thatin a different manner, right?
Obviously it's, you know, you had, yeah, you had things that
were dealt with as far as if youhad served as a Confederate in
the Confederate Army, so on and so forth.
Like there was, there were just issues surrounding that
historically. My memory calls it could be
wrong, but I think that then President Buchanan had armed the
(18:57):
South the last six months that he was in office so that they
could rise up and rebel and he moved over.
That would have been very treasonous because again, he's
undermining the incoming administration from being able
to do their job and putting themin harm's way, which is exactly
what we're talking about here. I, I want to talk to you again
and in your book that's out is very important.
(19:17):
I want to encourage folks to getthe book because it's important.
It's called progressive prejudice, exposing the
devouring mother, and it talks. About today's culture.
With moms and and, and their behavior and what kind of kids
we're producing as as a result of it.
So we'll have you back on again.And I do appreciate you coming
on today and talking to us. About this particular.
Event Leslie Corbally, thank youso much.
(19:40):
Thanks so much for having me. Hang on now.
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