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Speaker 1 (00:00):
because I am.
I dealt with the backup audiothese last four episodes and I
don't want to deal with it again.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
No, that was a little
rough.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
I believe you mean
buddy.
So who was brewing this?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
So this is.
Let's just rip it off the fly,let's review a beer, and then
Brian can go home and take careof his dying baby.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
You can't say it like
that.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Like I'm just hanging
out here instead.
I mean, that's literally whatyou're doing now.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Welcome to another
episode of the American Beer
Review Podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Good times with good
friends requires good beer.
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Speaker 3 (00:47):
We're a group of
friends who grew up in the
Pacific Northwest, giving us ajumpstart on our craft beer
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Speaker 2 (00:52):
Join us today.
While, brian, I pride myself onnot getting to know other
people, so do not put that on me.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Alec.
So the bananas, up until likethe 60s, were an entirely
different species of banana.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
And Chad.
It hit me like a beck and bobReview some beer talk about beer
topics and whatever else comesup.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
We invite you to pour
yourself a drink and hang out
with us.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
And me and Alec had
to physically restrain him from
leaving.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Yep Doors are locked.
Yeah, threw the keys down thetoilet.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
We had to get this
done so we didn't have to
inconvenience ourselves later on.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Alright, so this is
from Heater Allen Brewing.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Oh hey, I've had that
before.
There you go.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
McMinnville, oregon.
Yeah, that Chad also got allthe way from Tavor, even though
we weren't driven there.
This is their Connoisseur'sChoice, export Lager, and you
deserve a gold dot.
So I don't know if that's partof their brand, gold dot.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Is it A-L-L-E-N or
A-Heater Allen?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
A-L-L-E-N.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Alright, there I'm
trying to find it A noble brew
Allen A-L-L-E-N.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Alright, there, I'm
trying to find it.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Dun dun, dun.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Noble Brew, so I've
had a couple of theirs, so I've
had their.
They have a Bobtoberfest thatI've had.
They also have a.
It's a, I think it's a porter.
Going back to our last thing,and it was while I was- in this.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
One is not a porter.
The one you had previously wasa porter.
Yeah that's what I'm talkingabout.
I might be three sheets of thewind right now.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yeah, a little bit
the one we had last week was a
porter and we were looking atdoubling up they are only
rolling 70 beers on untapped.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
There's no cigarettes
on this one are there?
Oh man, I hope not, but the onethat I had beers on Untapped
there's no cigarettes on thisone are there?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Oh man, I hope not.
Okay, good, but the one that Ihad.
So I was trying to order a beer.
When we were in Corvallis forthe UW game, we were at a bar
having lunch pre-funking thegame because it was rainy as all
hell outside, yep, and they hada bunch of stuff with the beers
and I was like, oh, I'll takethat one.
And she's like we just ran outof that or we don't.
(03:06):
I was like, ok, well, tell me,like, tell me more about what
you have.
That's comparable or something.
And she ended up recommendingthis beer from Alan Heater and
the idea was that it was thiscomparable style to what I
wanted.
Okay, uh, I am pretty sure thebeer that, um, what is going on
(03:33):
the connoisseurs?
Oh, oh, there you go.
I got it, uh, but the beer thatshe ended up uh, getting me was
significantly boozier than theone that I was initially trying
to get, but it had a really cutedog on it, so I got it anyways.
This is 5.6 for a lager it's alittle heavier, but it's a
little boozy the beer that I hadis called Sandy Paws and each
(04:03):
year they rotate the dogs on thelabel and the money goes to a I
got too much lights in there.
Keep talking.
I feel like the money goes to acharity for dogs.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Is that the Starbucks
logo?
I mean, that's the old schoolStarbucks logo.
I put it up there.
I was trying to catch it, ohyeah.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
That for sure is.
That is totally the yeah.
That's the one they had to editfor TV, but not for YouTube, or
we're going to find out, oh,well, demonetize us, naughty
Mervig.
Have you tasted it.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
So, if I am
remembering what you just said
correctly, I would love to knowif you actually remembered what
I just said correctly.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
This brewing company
made a beer that went towards
the adoption of Beautiful Dogs.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
I think so because
every year they rotate and they
made this beautiful beer that Ithink so because every year they
rotate.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
They saw the name for
a dog and they made this
beautiful beer that I would wantto drink in a dang dark, that's
the one I had.
Excellent, so they made thatbeautiful beer for the adoption
of beautiful animals.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
This is someone
else's picture.
Thanks, peter D, but that's the.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Sandy.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Paws Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
But they also made
this beer that I would expect to
drink in a deep, dark basement.
Dank gross dive bar.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Okay, export lager
Connoisseur.
One sounds a little fancier,though, than what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
No, I'm, I'm having,
I'm, I, I want this in a dive
bar.
Okay, this is dive this is divebar lager.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I don't know what it
I?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I'm a connoisseur of
dive bar loggers and this is
this is.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
There may be dogs
allowed in this bar, but they
don't broadcast it as petfriendly.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yes, yeah, that's
what I was going for.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
It's one where you
walk in and you're like what?
I could have brought my dog inhere.
He catches the rats.
We don't talk about it.
This is fantastic.
I like this, your phrasing mademe think there was a.
This is fantastic.
I like this.
Your phrasing made me thinkthere was a.
It was early on in my drinkingcareer, but we were at the
(06:30):
basement bar Arrow, Archers,Archers in.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Fairhaven yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yeah, and I think
they mostly focus on European
beers, if I remember correctly.
But I had one that I was likeI'll just get some light,
whatever beer, and I didn'tfinish it.
I think I gave it a few.
We ended up watching like a UWfootball game that was on at
(06:55):
like 1130 because they were likeplaying in freaking Hawaii
drinking like some what Ithought at the time terrible
European beer.
But for the life of me I haveno idea what that beer is.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
So that's what it is,
that export lager.
It tastes it is.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
It's a European like.
There's a little bit of likealmost Belgian but not I was
going to say more like a kolsch.
It's kind of what I wasthinking, it's kolsch-y.
It's like a warm kolsch-y kindof vibe yeah, okay, before you
kill it all, pass that bad boy.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
It's very good.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I don't know the what
did you say the gold dot thing,
though I don't know marketing,you deserve a gold dot, you
deserve, we'll take it.
Oh, or did we get the cans thathave the gold dots so we get a
free tour of their?
Do we get a?
Speaker 1 (07:47):
prize throwback,
we're gonna put a little
throwback in the thingy righthere on the youtube do we get a
prize?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
we need to look this
up.
Yeah, all right, let right, letme see if I can almost oh nope,
I did.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
I spilled a little
bit, but I mean it's, it's not a
Ronye, but it is the gettingRonye on draft vibe.
That.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
That is that is oh,
it's a Dortmunder.
So it is, oh, it's a Europeanstyle, l European-style lager,
of course.
So, chad, for you I will pullup what a Dortmunder is.
Yes for Chad.
I mean those of us whoobviously know what a Dortmunder
is.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yes, yes For the
uncultured among us, the uncouth
.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
I mean Chad, you
should know that's a $5 word you
went to Oktoberfest.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Ah, fun fact, we're
running it back.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Some of us are.
Some of us, uh, sometimesreferred to as a dortmunder
export, the european styleexport, has the malt forward
flavor, yeah, and sweetness of agerman style hell is okay, hell
, yeah, but the bitter base of agerman style pilsner, love it
okay.
Lager is all about the balancemedium, medium hop character,
firm but low malt sweetness.
I actually would wish, I kindof wish, that all my uh loggers
(09:03):
were this flavoring.
Yeah, I kind of like this.
This is pretty good.
Yes, like, oh.
Yeah.
One of my other favorites thatI've had of this is um, also
from Corvallis Block 15, istheir Punch Out and Prost.
So I really enjoyed that one aswell.
(09:24):
Yeah, this is a pretty solid, aslightly stronger version of
our instant classic, the HellesLager.
So the slightly boozier,basically probably maltier
version of that.
This is so good, made with pureglacier water and the finest
imported hops and barley wecould find on the earth.
Incredibly dry and sparklinglager, yeah, I'm not mad about
(09:47):
it.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
This is a teen, or
teeners.
I'm not crushing a 30 bomb ofthis.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
You're going to do 16
or 18 of these, though I'll try
.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
I'm not the one
sitting.
I'd purchase it that way, butI'm not like.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I'd buy a six pack,
six packs of 16s.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I'm here for that and
give me three and then I'm
gonna fall asleep because I'mold.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Well, that's the
thing, but you're getting at 5.6
.
To me, this is the perfect oflike.
You do have to be slightlyaware of what's going on because
, you're drinking it like it's alight beer a light beer, but
it's a little boozier.
So you do got to kind of slowdown and be careful.
(10:32):
Pace a little bit yes there isokay.
So I don't know what I did.
I clicked on wait.
Who'd you say this is from I?
Speaker 3 (10:44):
don't remember.
That's why you guys no, that'swhat it says.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Brewed and canned by
Heater Allen.
This is from gold Dot Beer.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Oh, that's why you.
What a twist.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
So when you look at
the brewery, it is actually Gold
Dot Beer.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Yeah, this was a
random poll, yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Shad and I.
They have a total of 12 beers,Only 12?
On Untapped.
You're looking at Hella's Lager, Munich Dunkel Cold IPA.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
This export lager,
Dortmunder, An IPA, Japanese
Rice Lager Also on the list wewere about to pull from, so you
missed it.
It was.
We were handing beers back andforth in the fridge.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Should we?
Speaker 3 (11:42):
taste this one?
Should we taste this one?
Yep, well, this one tastes likecigarettes.
Who knows, this one's been inthe fridge for several months.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I bet you there's a
lot of people who drink this one
while smoking cigarettes.
What are you trying to say?
Just, I feel like that's a goodlike offset.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
You need to be in a
dank basement bar while you're
drinking this.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Where legally can't.
Or I could see sitting on somepatio where, just like you're
not supposed to have your dog inthere, you're also not supposed
to smoke on the patio, butsomeone's sitting drinking this
bad boy Like and this, this badboy like and this is their like
lager of choice, and theyparticularly chose it because
they're a little fancy withtheir cigarettes.
(12:23):
They buy the European ones, butthey also want a little more
booze in their light beer, sothat's why they're going with
this one, possibly.
So it's gotta be some kind oflike, uh one of those amazingly
specific right, it's got to beone of those like where it's the
brewery within a brewery typeof thing or some combination.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
I'm a dude playing a
dude.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Playing another dude.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Well, it's contracted
out because the cost of
shipping this from wherever ispretty expensive.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
It reminds me of the?
Um walking, walking mountains,walking mountains, the?
Um new hokkaido.
Yes, oh yeah, out of montana.
That like where it's like.
Yeah, in this brewery we havethree breweries and a seltzery
and like those types of things,like I could easily see that
they did some kind of uhvariation, yeah, something along
(13:17):
that I was going to see a jointventure from lager brewing
power couple, lisa Allen andKevin Davey.
So it seems like, where didPeter come from?
I don't know.
Let's ask Lisa Allen, becausewe at least found the Allen part
.
So let me check this bad boy inand then I'll get back to
looking at Peter Allen againthis For being just a logger bad
boy in and then I'll get backto looking at heater Allen again
(13:38):
this for being just a lager,pretty freaking good.
Let me look at my list.
What do you got on your list?
That's going to be anythingspecial of this.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
This is the most
drinkable beer in the last five
episodes.
Ooh.
Yeah, it is it entirely is Well, we've had the four episodes
previous to this, maybe more,but I can't remember that far
back.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Talladega Light.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
I prefer this over
that 100%.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
The Talladega Light
is better for being at a
racetrack and drinking a 30 bombif I'm crushing splitting a 30
bomb.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
I'm crushing the
Talladega Light.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I'm savoring the gold
dot yes, so this to me is a
more quality version, like astarter lager.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
I'm giving you a
Taldega Light first, but then
I'm going to start.
I'm going to keep trying to getyou into the gold dot.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
I would not give this
to the captain.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
No, this is almost
too fancy for him.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
That's what I'm
saying.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yes, that's a good
call.
Yeah, no, this is too fancy forthe captain.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Would he like?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
it Absolutely Would
he appreciate it.
Yes, but he will recoil at theabv.
Oh, possibly because this is,this is, although tastier when
we went to the race incalifornia okay, again, not a
nascar podcast.
(15:15):
Uh, when we went to the race inCalifornia, the bush lights
were $8.
Okay, the bushes were $7.
You guys went on a path ofdrinking bush lights because
that is your go-to.
My policy was slightly morealcohol in every I don't know
(15:41):
the math 7th, 8th one.
I got a freebie compared to youguys, because I was paying a
dollar less every time still $8for the venue $8 for Tallboys of
Bush Light.
I got $7.
$7 for the Bush Heavies.
So I'm going to do a littledigging.
(16:02):
On Heater Allen, I wanted toknow a little more about them
after that one.
But yeah, I think he'd recoilat the ABV on this 5.6?
Possibly that's a little dangerzone Because think about the
ones that he is traditionallydrinking.
He's not usually jumping in at5%.
They're all mostly sub-5s forthe standards.
(16:26):
But, yes, at Heater Ellen, wespecialize in making German and
Czech-style lager beers.
These are the best possibleingredients.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Well, that checks.
I hate him so much I've beenwaiting all season to get that.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
How many check dark
loggers have we had?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah, like a lot.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Well, if I threw out
too many, you guys would catch
on.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Oh no, it says
temporarily closed.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Uh-oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
On the Google it says
temporarily closed.
Uh-oh yeah, on the Google itsays temporarily closed.
Maybe just this location is myhope Like their tap room.
Yeah, in McMinnville, I can't.
I'm kind of sad anddisappointed and I feel like I'm
going to go down a rabbit holetrying to figure out what the
hell happened.
On a random side note,technically, uh, overall
(17:24):
breweries grew last year to like9600, 9700, something like that
.
So the best kind of correct whattechnically correct is the best
kind oh yeah, so technicallybreweries grew that much I
didn't realize also, though,that there's and maybe I did,
(17:44):
there's a categorization.
So you have, like, breweriesthat are just tap rooms,
breweries that are likemicrobreweries, and they label
them all, and basically it's byyour like distribution size or
your whether you like to be aregional brewery.
You have to create a certainamount of barrels.
Basically like we don't believethere's any possible way you
(18:06):
can sell all these barrels inyour tap room, so you must be
distributing, type of thing.
So that's how, like, you becomea regional brewery or you
become a whatever.
But there were some that, likethe overall numbers, if you
looked at like regionalbreweries, they lost some.
The overall numbers, if youlooked at like regional
breweries, they lost some.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
You think it's
literally they go.
We don't think you can sellthis many versus.
We know you're selling yourkegs Like.
You have receipts showing thatyou sold your kegs and
distributed.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
I mean we saw your
numbers.
We don't really believe you.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Allegedly there might
be a real like verification of
that Right we're not, not gonnasnitch, no, yeah, this is just a
money laundering scheme.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
You guys are just a
brewery, a money laundering
scheme?
How dare you?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
uh, no, it actually
makes sense because you just can
like be like no, no, we're likehemorrhaging money, we're
totally losing money, it's, butwe're somehow staying open,
that's so the last 10 years ofVC yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Money laundering
works.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
No, I know, usually
you're trying to hey Alec, Hi
Alec, I'm not telling the peopleI know.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I'm short.
Money laundering.
I'm shorting the moneylaundering market.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
I'm not telling
people that I know how money
laundering works, because thatwould make it obvious that I'm
doing it sir, obviously.
Taproom is currently closed.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
I'm not a Mr IRS
agent, I'm a terrible money
launderer.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
For a remodel.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Oh good for them.
So they're making money orlaundering it, I don't know.
Check out the Taproom page formore info.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Just hire yourself to
do the remodeling.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Giving contracts to
people.
You know.
It's like if I knew an HVAC guyto just do a bunch of contracts
for me and pay him an only beer.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
It's suspicious that
there's a multi-thousand unit
complex going in Ellensburg orSunnyside.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Washington.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Weird.
Yeah, that's a starbucks logo,right.
Yeah, yes, it is the starbuckslogo, but why?
Because starbucks stole it fromsomebody else.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
I was gonna say it's,
if it's from europe.
It's probably way older thanstarbucks and it was like copped
somewhere.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
But um, that's a
really good locker.
Like that's one of the onesthat I like.
When you go in and you're kindof looking at, um, what's on tap
, you're looking at building aflight of doing something.
I want someone to point out alittle bit more of like.
That is an anchor on your wayto beer greatness to try to do
like I don't want just yourAmerican light lager in my
(20:41):
flight, but I want this.
I will not buy the whateverpack of them Chad was talking
about, but I would gladly cyclethrough.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
You said you wanted
18 of these.
You'd buy them by the 18 packyeah, I would.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
I would at least
cycle through, didn't?
Speaker 1 (21:03):
I drink 18 of them,
then I forget about it, buy
another one.
Then we guys asked me it's aperpetual money machine, a money
laundering scheme?
Speaker 2 (21:12):
if you will, I would
at least frequently get a four
pack of that to have, that'sbecause, four to me.
Um, if you're, if you're havingone for the day, there's enough
kind of booziness in it, butit's still a light drinking beer
.
Yes, it also is a greattransition, um, out of your ipas
and different things to thengetting into your light stuff,
(21:34):
where you're like this is aperfect one, where I'm like I
want something a little lessboozy than ipas or different
things, but I want flavor still.
This is still more flavor thanyour standard American light
lager.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
I would get a four
pack of this and then not share
them.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Winner, winner
chicken dinner cool our glasses
are empty.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Hopefully yours are
too.
We'll catch you next time afterthe race.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
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(22:36):
Chad go buy off of Tavor.