Our latest episode captures the highs and lows of PAX East in Boston, where Omar Najam and Sandeep Parikh left our live streaming habitat for the bustling convention floor. Wander with us through the maze of game developers, dice booths, and the inevitable mishaps along the way. But it's not all chaos; we're dishing out the scoop on Dispel Dice's newest treasures that are a dream for gamers and pet owners. We even tackle the heavyweight bout of snack food: Dunkin' Munchkins versus Gulab Jamun – a debate you won't want to miss.
There's nothing quite like the energy of Anjali Bhimani's storytelling, which brings a magnetic vibe to our conversation. We mull over a possible "Auntie vs. Auntie" presidential race in 2024, poking fun at the political circus with our own "doomsday clock." The cultural tapestry woven by aunties in our lives is rich and vibrant, and this chat is a testament to their legendary status in problem-solving and impact.
Imagine the odds of bumping into not one, but multiple Sandeeps, and the ensuing "name-game" banter that unfolds. Plus, we're pulling in our buddy Neeraj Shah to discuss what's sweet and what's sweeter when it comes to dessert debates. As the episode winds down, we can't help but shine a spotlight on the folks who make our podcast a reality – from the production team to our generous supporters. It's a joyous wrap-up to an episode brimming with laughter, camaraderie, and the kind of memories that only come from experiences like PAX East.
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Omar Najam (00:00):
Well, hello everyone .
Ho ho ho.
Look at this.
Sandeep Parikh (00:04):
Yeah, this is exciting.
Hey, I am.
I'm Sundeep.
I'm going to introduce myselfthis time.
Usually, we introduce eachother, but today's a special
episode, we do, yeah.
Omar Najam (00:11):
This is a special.
I'm Omer Najam, and this is aspecial because normally we
would be on Twitch, we'd be live, we'd be playing some games.
Delvin would be telling us thatwe're doing something
incorrectly in the game.
Sandeep Parikh (00:22):
And he'd be right.
Yeah, he'd be correct, buttoday we're changing it up.
We went to PAX East in Bostonand we decided to film some of
our shenanigans there instead,so we're giving you this as a
special episode.
Omar Najam (00:34):
That's right.
That's right.
We hung out with a bunch ofgame developers.
We got to chat with some folkswho make dice.
We even ran into a couple ofour friends along the way.
KP Upadhyayula (KPStudios11) (00:42):
We filmed the whole thing and we
cut it together.
Omar Najam (00:45):
Yeah, we have a couple of friends.
You'll see all of them, that'sright.
Sandeep Parikh (00:50):
All four of them , including my new friend,
because I got mind flayed,that's right.
Yeah, so enjoy that.
All right Well without furtherado here it is our adventures in
Boston at.
Pax East.
Hey, everyone, hi.
Oh, welcome to the ABCD Pocket.
You thought you were in Boston,but no, I mean you are.
Omar Najam (01:12):
You are actually, so you're correct.
Sandeep Parikh (01:14):
Yeah, but you thought you were flying through
Boston.
Yeah, it turns out you'reflying through our minds here at
the Westin.
That's right, historic Westin.
I have no idea if it's historic.
Yeah, sam Adams built ithimself With his bare hands With
his bare hands.
But we are here live at PAXEast, which is a big video game
convention in Boston, and we'regonna go check out some stuff.
Omar Najam (01:32):
We got a panel later today, but first we wanna take
you around the floor.
So come on, let's go.
Let's go, let's go to Boston.
Sandeep Parikh (01:52):
Okay, so of course we're in Boston, so we're
going to have to have a Dunkin'Donuts booth.
Omar Najam (01:57):
Yes, you're right, it has to be a thing Right here.
Check this out.
We got our Dunkies our preciousDunkies.
Sandeep Parikh (02:02):
We got a Dunkkeys activation.
Yeah, where people are, it'slike, it's pretty cool, let's go
look at it.
Let's go look at it real quick.
Okay, so here's what'shappening, as you can see, right
, people throwing a ball at awall of donuts that are popping
up on a sort of pressurizedscreen.
Pretty good stuff, all right.
(02:23):
All right.
Pressurized screen.
Critical Bard (aka Omega (02:23):
Pretty good stuff.
Sandeep Parikh (02:24):
Alright, alright , it's kind of taking like Duck
Hunt to the next level.
Yeah to the next donut yeah Tothe next donut, of course we
have to have a this versus thatright.
Omar Najam (02:32):
Yeah, yeah.
Sandeep Parikh (02:33):
So look, we're in Boston.
Our this versus that.
This time Okay Is gonna be theDunkin Donuts Munchkin.
Okay Versus the Gulab Jamun.
Omar Najam (02:43):
Okay.
Sandeep Parikh (02:43):
Which is basically a munchkin smothered
in syrup.
Yeah, yeah.
That's great.
So we're just going to askrandom people what their
feelings are on those anddetermine once and for all what
does Boston love more?
Omar Najam (02:57):
Yeah, who should we ask?
First how about the mind flayer?
Let's ask the mind flayer.
Sandeep Parikh (03:03):
You want a munchkin or a glob jamun Mind
Flayer.
Let's ask the Mind Flayer Wanta munchkin or a glab jabba?
Mind Flayer, glab jabba.
You heard it here first.
The Mind Flayer flayed me anddefinitely said glab jabba.
Omar Najam (03:16):
That's amazing.
Yeah, yeah, Alright so that'sone vote already.
Sandeep Parikh (03:19):
He's a big Indian food fan.
Omar Najam (03:20):
That's beautiful.
Thank you for your service.
Thank you, Mime.
Sandeep Parikh (03:23):
Flare, and now he lives forever in my id.
Omar Najam (03:25):
Oh, that's beautiful , it's going to be good.
Sandeep Parikh (03:35):
Hey, we're here with Travis at the Dispel Dice
booth.
Yes, aren't we, Hi Travis, higuys, hi guys.
What are you holding?
Travis @ Dispel Dice (03:40):
So I've got one of our Mimic chests, our
Dispel Dice dog toys Verypopular at this con.
So the chest comes with threecoins, all squeaky.
And how many different dog toyswere you selling?
We have three different dogtoys.
We have our Red Dragon, whichis unfortunately sold out, along
with the gelatinous cube wealso have our mimic, which we
(04:02):
still have in stock.
Omar Najam (04:03):
And, of course, you've got, you know, your dice,
which are some of my favoritedice that I have in my
collection.
Are these new guys here, these?
Travis @ Dispel Dice (04:10):
are the new guys, so we have some new
sets here at PAX.
I want to show you guys, ourparties, our class sets.
Okay, so we have our damage persecond set DPS.
Yes, we have our healer set.
Sandeep Parikh (04:25):
These are awesome and we have our tank set
.
Travis @ Dispel Dice (04:28):
All of these come with an accompanying
candle made by Cantrip.
Omar Najam (04:31):
You're joking Our friends at Cantrip.
Travis @ Dispel Dice (04:33):
Yes, great guys over there.
Sandeep Parikh (04:35):
What makes these things so deadly sharp, Like I
feel like they're powerful and Icould?
Omar Najam (04:40):
do some real, actual DPS, like as you roll, the
table is getting like yeah, wewould not recommend that
litigation might come.
Travis @ Dispel Dice (04:47):
Oh god, as you say it, he does, oh god.
Omar Najam (04:51):
For those listening.
Sandeep has knocked over theentire display here at PAX East
he sure did, okay, okay, firstroll of the game.
Sandeep Parikh (04:57):
I got a one.
I'm actually a one.
I think that sounds about right.
Omar Najam (05:02):
Where can everyone find more stuff of all Dispel
online we are?
Travis @ Dispel Dice (05:05):
currently selling DispelDicecom.
We have a store on Etsy andAmazon now Beautiful, look at
that.
Sandeep Parikh (05:11):
All right, and then our final question that
we've got to ask right, Becausethis is ABCD podcast.
Omar Najam (05:16):
American Born Chatty Daisy, so it's a South Asian
focus.
Okay, okay, conversation.
Sandeep Parikh (05:25):
So we've we gotta ask you what would you
rather have, this versus that, aDunkin' Donuts munchkin or an
Indian glob jammer?
Travis @ Dispel Dice (05:31):
I have not had that before, okay, so I
would try it.
Sandeep Parikh (05:35):
They're like syrupy munchkins, basically.
Have you ever seen that?
I have not.
Travis @ Dispel Dice (05:40):
But I'm down to try it.
I would rather try somethingnew than try something I've
never tried before.
I would rather try somethingnew than try something I haven't
done before.
Sandeep Parikh (05:45):
I love that.
So, sight unseen, we gotta votefor Globjammin.
Omar Najam (05:49):
Our first non-Mind Flayer vote for Globjammin.
Sandeep Parikh (05:51):
Thank you.
Travis @ Dispel Dice (05:52):
Thank you so much for having us.
It's been a pleasure.
Sainath @ Shape Invaders (06:03):
So my name is Sainaf.
We manufacture board games forExploding Kittens, big Potato,
so all those sort of things.
We do design development forthem.
But this is our nextKickstarter.
It's called Shape Invaders.
Sandeep Parikh (06:15):
I've got to ask you about this game, because
this game reminds me of playingKarim as a kid.
Sainath @ Shape Invaders (06:23):
So I basically grew up playing Karim
my whole life.
So this is essentially Karimfor the western market.
But the big thing with Karim isyou need a bigger, you need
like a huge board essentially,and my board's, like the one at
home, is like three generationsold.
But they cost a lot of money.
So the whole aim with ShapeInvaders is that you can play a
flicking game game, a dexteritygame on any table you want.
So we manufacture them in acertain way that had like a low
(06:46):
surface contact area.
So even if you had like awobbly board or like a bumpy
board or a bumpy table, you canplay the game.
Essentially, you're trying toget rid of your opponent's
motherships off the table, soyou're flicking pieces, exactly.
Yeah, you guys shoulddefinitely check out.
Check us out onshapeinvadersgamecom.
Sandeep Parikh (07:06):
We have to ask you.
We do a thing on our showcalled this vs that, when we
compare a chai vs a coffee.
Critical Bard (aka Omega Jone (07:14):
A lazy thing vs an.
Neeraj Shah (07:15):
American thing Because we're in Boston.
Sandeep Parikh (07:18):
It's the Dunkin Donuts munchkin vs the glob
donuts.
What do you choose and behonest?
Sainath @ Shape Invaders (07:24):
The munchkin.
The thing is it might bedifferent because Tamil or Sri
Lankan glob jamun is so sweetand I quite like the munchkins.
Actually In the UK we don't getDunkin Donuts.
Omar Najam (07:40):
Right.
So this is an exotic.
Yeah, exactly, yeah, right.
Sainath @ Shape Invaders (07:44):
This is their glob job.
Sandeep Parikh (07:46):
Yeah, pretty much it makes sense I got to be
honest.
Yeah, I'm on team Munchkin.
Omar Najam (07:51):
I'm going to be honest, I'm team Munchkin, you
guys.
Sandeep Parikh (07:53):
I'm with you, man, I think it's too sweet.
Omar Najam (07:55):
What is this we can't do?
Sandeep Parikh (07:57):
this.
It's too sweet.
You're dipping in sweet syrup.
Yes, it's the syrup.
Yes, you are.
Sainath @ Shape Invaders (08:03):
The thing is, I can have maybe like
two or three in one go, but thenI'm like I can't have any more
than this.
Sandeep Parikh (08:09):
I'm out for like a month.
Yeah, exactly, it's like jalebias well.
Sainath @ Shape Invaders (08:14):
I can have like two at max, and then
I'm like someone, please help me, I look at do jalebi versus
jelly beans.
Omar Najam (08:19):
Yeah, that's a comparison.
Critical Bard (aka Omeg (08:29):
Awesome .
Omar Najam (08:29):
Thank you again so much for letting us hang out.
It was great.
Sandeep Parikh (08:37):
Okay, when you're trying to interview
someone very famous and a bigdeal like Anjali, you have to,
you know, work around theadoring fans that are gonna try
to grab some pictures with her,and that's just like.
That's just like the deal.
We're just talking about yourfame right now, Anjali.
KP Upadhyayula (KPStudios1 (08:54):
Fame .
I wanna live forever, Whoa.
Omar Najam (08:57):
Where'd this come from, Not I would love to have a
life hey.
Sandeep Parikh (09:01):
Do not have the rights to that song.
KP Upadhyayula (KPStudios (09:03):
We're so screwed.
Sandeep Parikh (09:04):
We're so happy to have Anjali finally here at
PAX.
She had a whole saga to gethere it only took me four
flights.
Oh, my God.
KP Upadhyayula (KPStudi (09:12):
Getting bumped four times.
Critical Bard (aka Omega Jo (09:14):
But I got it I am here.
Anjali Bhimani (09:15):
I've had a little bit of tricky life with
travel lately, but I feel likeI'm here at the right time.
Sandeep Parikh (09:20):
You're here in time for a panel which is like
what really matters, likehonestly, come and buy more dice
.
Obviously I need more dice frommisty mountain gaming who
sponsored us to be here too.
So we love them.
We love misty mountain gaming.
We're doing a little segment.
It's called auntie versusauntie watch 2024, and we
thought we had to bring thebaddest auntie of them all, yep,
(09:41):
to here to to figure this out.
Okay, so that?
Anjali Bhimani (09:45):
auntie is here for you.
Let's go.
Sandeep Parikh (09:46):
Now listen, we're not necessarily politics
guys in general, but what sortof struck us about this 2024
presidential race was we aretechnically two heartbeats away
from there being two auntiesgoing head to head Nikki Haley,
right Technically an auntie,kamala Kamala.
Aunt Kamala Kamala auntie.
Much more listen, listen.
(10:10):
However you feel about eitherof them.
The point is it would behistoric.
It was auntie versus auntieRight so our metric right now is
that we're doing a watch like adoomsday clock metric right now
is that we're doing a watchlike a doomsday clock.
Omar Najam (10:24):
Yeah, imagine like an auntie with like two arms an
hour.
Actually don't worry about theother arm, it's just one.
It's just an hour.
Sandeep Parikh (10:29):
Yeah, but we're going in reverse, because the
way like a doomsday clock, whenit hits midnight it's bad news,
doom right.
For us if it's auntie versusauntie, probably a better
scenario.
Anjali Bhimani (10:40):
Kind of win-win.
Here's the thing about auntiestoo.
For all of the bad rap thatthey get, my aunties are dope as
fuck.
They are the best they arealways there for you in a pinch,
and they get things done.
Sandeep Parikh (10:52):
That's right.
Anjali Bhimani (10:53):
You want to get something done, give it to an
auntie.
Sandeep Parikh (10:55):
That's right.
Anjali Bhimani (10:55):
She may judge you for how you're doing it
wrong.
She'll do it oh not, may shewill just take it out of your
hands and do it.
Yeah, 100%.
Sandeep Parikh (11:04):
She'll get it done.
Right now it's at 11.57.
It's very close to doomsday.
They're both running againstyou.
They're Biden versus Trumpright now.
The aunties are.
Omar Najam (11:14):
Some updates right.
Sandeep Parikh (11:16):
There are some updates.
Not a ton, but there are someupdates, some legal stuff that's
going on and everything.
What time would you put us at?
Omar Najam (11:25):
Between noon and midnight Noon, being auntie
versus auntie.
Anjali Bhimani (11:29):
I feel like 11.58.
We're close.
Sandeep Parikh (11:32):
Between, for what?
For it's remaining not auntieversus auntie right.
Anjali Bhimani (11:36):
No, tell me, I don't quite understand.
We're going.
Okay, I know, I know it'sconfusing, it's a terrible
convoluted system.
Sandeep Parikh (11:42):
If we get to 1 o'clock, that means it's
basically auntie versus auntie.
Right now we're at close to 12.
Because it's probably going tobe Biden versus.
Omar Najam (11:50):
Trump 1pm is good auntie versus auntie Midnight is
bad.
I feel like we're 2020.
Sandeep Parikh (11:56):
You think we're going back.
Do you think that like?
Anjali Bhimani (11:58):
No, I think we're going in the direction.
I think we're going in theright direction.
Okay, towards 1 pm.
I'm trying to be bipartisanwhile I say this, but it might
be the only silver lining in mypersonal opinion of that
situation, so we should knock itback an hour for Anjali's
(12:20):
blessing.
Omar Najam (12:20):
Yes, 11 pm.
Sandeep Parikh (12:22):
We're at 11 pm Instead of 11.57,.
We're going to knock it back 57minutes to 11 pm.
Does that sound?
11 pm Instead of 11 57?
We're gonna knock it back 57minutes to 11 pm.
Does that sound good?
Sure, because I still don'tunderstand the system.
Great Because it's veryconvoluted.
It doesn't make any sense.
Anjali Bhimani (12:32):
But you know what Auntie's are, complicated
people too, you know?
Sandeep Parikh (12:34):
Yeah, it's true, that's right.
Anjali Bhimani (12:36):
They're very complicated on the inside.
Sandeep Parikh (12:37):
Alright, we're at 11 pm, we're getting there.
Omar Najam (12:53):
Hey everyone, we're here with Xander from Fantasy
Flight Games.
How's it going?
Xander @ Fantasy Flight Gam (12:57):
I'm doing great.
It's been a wonderful time hereat PAX East Beautiful.
Omar Najam (13:01):
You're here with Star Wars Unlimited, correct?
I'm?
Xander @ Fantasy Flight Ga (13:03):
here with Star Wars Unlimited.
So yeah, we're showing off thebrand new trading card game.
It's been about two weeks sincethe release, so it's been
really fun.
Omar Najam (13:09):
God, that's amazing For folks who don't know what
Star Wars Unlimited is.
What would be a two-sent youwould give?
Xander @ Fantasy Flight Ga (13:14):
Star Wars Unlimited is a fast paced,
strategic trading card game.
It has it's full of iconiccharacters, vehicles, moments
from the Star Wars galaxy thatreally will bring in long time
Star Wars fans as well as fansof trading card games.
Omar Najam (13:27):
And you also have a just in the mechanic of you have
like an aerial attack situationas well as a land base, right?
Xander @ Fantasy Flight Gam (13:32):
Yes , so it's very Star Wars in that
you are going in space andground simultaneously, you know,
fighting for aerial dominance,like you said.
Omar Najam (13:39):
And also you have your troops on the ground doing
their best job to control thebattlefield.
The third act of every StarWars movie.
Xander @ Fantasy Flight Ga (13:43):
yeah , Exactly, it is the epitome of
Star Wars there.
Omar Najam (13:46):
You have a bunch of Rogue One features which I love
because I'm a big Rogue One fan.
Might be a contentious opinion,but it made me very happy, Is
it?
Sandeep Parikh (13:53):
It's a contentious opinion.
I know people who get reallyhuge about Rogue One.
Well, Star Wars everyone.
Omar Najam (13:57):
Thank you Okay great .
Sandeep Parikh (13:59):
Yes, yeah, me too.
I think it's the best of thesort of prequel.
I mean not just because I'mfriends with Gary Whitta and I'm
contractually obligated to saythat.
Yes, yeah.
Omar Najam (14:09):
Well, we'll have to play at some point.
We've got to play.
But for right now, in terms of1v, we have a little game we're
playing around the conventionfloor today on ABCD American
born Teddy Daisy's.
We take an iconically Americanthing and then juxtapose against
an iconically South Asian thingand you to choose one Okay, the
Dunkin Donuts munchkin or aglob Jamin.
Sandeep Parikh (14:32):
Okay, it's a popular dessert.
It's like their little balls,like dough balls, that are in
syrup, yeah, and in like a rosesyrup, so yeah.
Xander @ Fantasy Flight Gam (14:39):
I'm gonna have to go with that
because I love rose syrup.
Wow, I am in on it, and that'scoming from a big fan of the
munchkin.
Omar Najam (14:47):
Oh, look at that.
Sandeep Parikh (14:48):
But yeah, I would have to say I'm in, we've
converted a munchkin head into aglob joblin head.
Xander @ Fantasy Flight Gam (14:53):
I'm so sorry, Munchkin heads out
there, give it a try.
Thank you I love that, give ita try.
Omar Najam (14:59):
Well, thank you so much, and we can't wait to play
more.
Sandeep Parikh (15:00):
Yes, thank you so much.
Awesome, great to see your con.
This is perfect.
This is what I was hoping tohappen, right?
KP Upadhyayula (KPStudios1 (15:12):
when we're recording the.
Sandeep Parikh (15:13):
ABCD podcast.
KP Upadhyayula (KPStudios11) (15:14):
We got KP right here in the flesh.
Sandeep Parikh (15:18):
Dude, how was your con?
KP Upadhyayula (KPStudios11) (15:20):
It went really well.
I had a lot of fun.
This was my first ever PAX East.
Sandeep Parikh (15:24):
Same here, same oh man PAX East versions Look at
that.
KP Upadhyayula (KPStudios1 (15:27):
Yeah , this is all the daisies at PAX
East.
Travis @ Dispel Dice (15:30):
We're breaking it.
KP Upadhyayula (KPStudios (15:31):
We're breaking in no it was a lot of
fun.
I got to do a panel yesterday,which was great, amazing.
I'm here to do photos.
It was about networking in thespace.
It was called Charisma Check,which I liked a lot.
But it was all about how tonetwork in the space, how to
connect with folks withoutoverstepping your boundaries, oh
yeah, For example, asking to beon a podcast as they're about
(15:51):
to leave the convention.
No, no, or my brother carryingtheir bags.
This was actually a perfectexample of a good way, because
we already had a good connection.
We knew each other and we knewthat we were safe around each
other and this is a nice hey.
We're trying to help each other, uplift all of us Versus.
(16:11):
Like you know, you might havesomeone who's never met you
before.
Come up and be like let mepresent to you 30 minutes of all
the cool things that I do, andthen can you help me and you're
just like I'm just trying to eatmy sandwich, bro.
Thank you, I'm just trying toshake one out and leave.
I'm so sorry.
Shake one out.
Sandeep Parikh (16:25):
I'm stealing that term for you, for people
who don't know you.
Can you tell them all about you?
Oh my God.
KP Upadhyayula (KPStudios11 (16:32):
And here's where the imposter
syndrome comes in.
But we're're gonna say F you tothat and say my name is KP.
I go by KP 11 studios and allyour social medias.
I'm a photographer, voice actor, culture consultant, performer
on a piece and otherwise, aswell as a writer on various
projects, all of them fairlydecent.
I'm not gonna say I'm the bestat them, but it is good enough
(16:53):
and I'm proud of it.
So there we are no no, no, it's.
It's all people are.
It's a group effort.
It's all I'm gonna be the best.
Yeah, breakout, stop marks.
Amazing, wonderful, let's gobreak it out.
Yes, whenever you'reuncomfortable, break out the
Indian accent, right yourphotography style is incredible.
Omar Najam (17:16):
I would go so far say iconic like when you see KP.
You know it's KP stuff.
Yeah, there's very fewphotographers.
I know that you could say thatwhen?
You're like, you can look atthis person's work and be like I
know exactly who did this.
Sandeep Parikh (17:29):
And this is not just us sucking up to try to get
free photos from KP.
Bro, it's fun Okay, we found aReka in the wild.
Omar Najam (17:42):
It's hard Okay, we found a Reka in the wild, hey,
and you know what that means.
When you find a Reka, we getfree samples of food.
Sandeep Parikh (17:47):
That's right.
Let's go.
When you find a Lado Ante inthe wild, you get free samples.
Anjali Bhimani (17:51):
Oh my god.
My aunt used to release me intoSam's Club like a wild animal
for the sample.
Omar Najam (17:56):
Okay, so take us through this.
What is coffee?
So?
Travis @ Dispel Dice (17:57):
they have a home blend and they have a
light blend.
Sandeep Parikh (18:01):
Okay, okay, I've already studied it.
Omar Najam (18:03):
You're asking what coffee is?
Yeah, it's bean water.
Okay, that's coffee, wow, yeah.
Anjali Bhimani (18:09):
You grind up, so you get your beans, you give
them a wash, you roast them.
Omar Najam (18:13):
So it's like an aquafaba sort of situation.
Anjali Bhimani (18:14):
Huh, I'm excited to try this coffee.
Omar Najam (18:17):
Which one are you looking forward to the most?
I?
Anjali Bhimani (18:18):
would like the Home Blood.
Okay, and now I can't tell youwhy it?
Said it was comforting.
Yeah, so that sounds nice,because home is comforting
sometimes.
Sometimes it can be stressful,home Blood.
Omar Najam (18:23):
You're getting the house blend.
You said something.
Well to be honest if.
I'm being honest, I actuallywas already at this booth, I
would home blood.
Sandeep Parikh (18:35):
So yes, he's back, Wait, but now you have to
pretend to be somebody else toget another free sample.
Neeraj Shah (18:38):
Yeah.
Sandeep Parikh (18:38):
No.
Sainath @ Shape Invaders (18:39):
I don't, they know.
Anjali Bhimani (18:40):
I'm sick, I actually said.
Sainath @ Shape Invaders (18:42):
I'm like I said.
Anjali Bhimani (18:42):
I'm sick and they saw the mastermind.
You're sick, I'm like no, no no, no, I'm mentally sick.
Sandeep Parikh (18:46):
Maybe they just I need to have more coffee.
Parents, they don't understandthat.
Sainath @ Shape Invaders (18:54):
My dad is so profoundly embarrassing
with samples.
Omar Najam (18:57):
Yeah, yes, it's sample culture.
Anjali Bhimani (19:01):
My dad would cut the line and ask for one of
each 100%.
Sandeep Parikh (19:06):
My dad.
He now just literally and thisis not a joke he loves tiny
spoons.
Okay, and so whenever we go toany ice cream place and they
give you a free sample, hedoesn't ask anymore, he just
goes I'm taking this, I'm takingthis.
Omar Najam (19:20):
Like at Salt and Straw.
He would just be like and it'sused.
Sandeep Parikh (19:23):
It's the spoon they gave him and they're not
plastic, they're like metalspoons or whatever.
KP Upadhyayula (KPStudios1 (19:26):
Yeah , actual spoons.
Sandeep Parikh (19:27):
And then he will , I'm not even kidding, that's
theft.
Omar Najam (19:36):
He goes, I'm going to about it.
That's robbery.
Yeah, that's Like a bank.
Robbery isn't legal becausesomeone's like chick-chick.
Sandeep Parikh (19:42):
No, that's not true.
I'm taking it.
Yeah, If you tell them it'sactually a law, I'm gonna Hi,
Hello how's it going?
Omar Najam (19:47):
We fought.
You're a legend.
Anjali Bhimani (19:53):
I love you.
I'm, can you say that into?
Sandeep Parikh (19:54):
the recording microphone.
Anjali Bhimani (19:55):
Hi, my name is Catherine Linehan, For the legal
record.
I am a huge fan.
Sandeep Parikh (20:04):
Okay, guess what ?
I found another Sandeep.
Hello, my name is SandeepShashihadhan Nice to meet you,
and I'm Sandeep Parikh.
Oh, my gosh, this is veryexciting for me Very exciting,
you know yeah yeah, yeah.
How many other Sandeeps haveyou found in the line that?
Only one of us only.
Where did you find this other?
That's a tennis court, Okay andwho's the better somebody?
This guy yeah yeah, yeah, buthe's probably a better tennis
player, was he nasty?
(20:25):
Also an uncle, damn.
I just got slammed by the othersomebody at the younger, sexier
, cooler somebody.
Okay, we're gonna do some thisversus that with our web
designer, the web designer ofdaisyquestcom who we found here
(20:46):
at the convention, neeraj Shah,that's right, and also fellow
New Hampshireite.
We're both the two Indians fromNew Hampshire.
Neeraj Shah (20:54):
I don't know if you know this.
Look at that.
We're from there and we made itout.
Sandeep Parikh (20:56):
You're goddamn right, Neeraj.
Hey, welcome to the ABCDpodcast.
Thanks for having me.
Neeraj Shah (21:01):
It's good to be here.
Sandeep Parikh (21:02):
I think technically, we did some
research on where the podcast isbeing downloaded and there's
like 16 downloads fromSomerville.
Is that you?
Neeraj Shah (21:11):
It could be.
You know, I just talked to you.
Sandeep Parikh (21:19):
We want to talk about us.
How did we do at the panel?
We just walked out of ourDesiQuest panel and I want to
know from your perspective areyou happy that you're web
designing for us, or are youlike wishing I never did this?
Yeah.
Neeraj Shah (21:31):
Okay, admittedly I'm biased, but I do think that
was my favorite panel of theentire weekend.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I'm notjust saying that to suck up to
you guys, but genuinely, like itwas very insightful, very fun.
Really appreciated all youranswers.
Omar Najam (21:53):
Glad.
Neeraj Shah (21:53):
I could be here for it.
Awesome, thank you.
That's so wonderful.
That's great, because we alsorushed on a minute before it
started.
Yeah, yeah.
Sandeep Parikh (21:58):
Yeah, we're almost too on time.
Okay, another quick thing aboutnear it before we jump jump
into our game is that Neeraj isnot just designing websites,
which you should do with him ifyou so choose but he's a
stand-up comedian, inspired meto do more stand-up myself super
funny dude and we animated ashow together a billion years
ago for Nerdist.
(22:19):
Tell the fans a little bitabout our history.
Neeraj Shah (22:23):
We've known each other what since 2008.
So, it's been a minute.
Sandeep Parikh (22:28):
Yeah.
Neeraj Shah (22:28):
Yeah, we worked together.
Game Off was our show.
Sandeep Parikh (22:31):
Game Off was our show.
Neeraj Shah (22:32):
That was a lot of fun.
That was a really good time.
Wish we could have gotten backand done some more of that.
Sandeep Parikh (22:37):
It was about two Goombas in Mario and what
they're doing in the momentsbefore they get stomped.
Every episode by Mario, it'sreally fun.
Neeraj Shah (22:47):
Well, former stand-up, I haven't performed in
a little bit.
I'm glad to know that Iinspired Sundy, because I say
this truly honestly in less thana year you've gotten better
than I have in doing it fornearly a decade.
Stop.
Sandeep Parikh (23:03):
Stop Go nearly a decade.
Stop, stop, go on, stop, stop,keep going Some most improved.
Omar Najam (23:07):
I see what you're saying.
Basically all right.
Sandeep Parikh (23:11):
Now we've got to get serious.
Yeah, okay, we're going to playa little game.
This is what we do on the show,as you may or may not know, is
the 16 downloads from Somerville, massachusetts, where you play
this versus that, and today'sthis versus that, in honor of
being in Boston, is Dunkin'Donuts, munchkins versus Gulab
Jamun, and you gotta be realabout this.
Okay, no pandering, and you arefrom the area, so I feel like
(23:35):
this should be interesting.
Where do you land and why?
Neeraj Shah (23:39):
This is a tough call, but also it's Gulab Jamun
all the way, because that's nota tough call at all yes.
Gulab Jamun is one of thepremier Indian treats.
It is perfect, everyone lovesit.
A munchkin.
Omar Najam (23:55):
Everyone.
Sandeep Parikh (23:57):
Some of them are good, some of them are bad.
KP Upadhyayula (KPStudios11) (24:00):
I just like the efficiency of like
hey stop throwing out those,the middles.
Sandeep Parikh (24:05):
We can do something with this.
They're not throwing out that.
You roll it back in and you getmore rings.
No, in my fantasy they take allthe, they were all throwing
them out.
And then some genius.
In this research that you didpurely in your own head.
As a four-year-old whodiscovered them, I thought they
were actually donut holes.
Omar Najam (24:21):
Okay, you make this the big circle and then you make
a little circle and they rollinto a ball and they go yeah,
they toss them.
Neeraj Shah (24:28):
That's right.
Okay, so if a jelly munchkin isthe middle of a jelly donut,
why doesn't all the jelly justleak out of it?
Sandeep Parikh (24:33):
Listen, my six-year-old self had an answer
for this.
It was probably somethingaround magic.
Neeraj Shah (24:39):
Do you have like your journals from when?
Sandeep Parikh (24:40):
you were six, could go back to your notes, and
it's all.
Neeraj Shah (24:42):
Munchkins.
Omar Najam (24:43):
It looks like the Zodiac Killer stuff.
It's actually really disturbing.
Sandeep Parikh (24:45):
All right, fine, I'm getting clearly crushed in
this game.
Thanks, neeraj.
Neeraj Shah (24:49):
Thank you so much for everything you do for the
show.
Hey, thanks for having me,thanks for talking to me and
thanks for doing this.
It's fantastic, all right wellsoon on the ABCD podcast.
Sandeep Parikh (25:09):
This is the beauty of PAX we get to run into
buddies that are from thestreams that you forget how much
taller they are than you inreal life.
Critical Bard (aka Omega (25:16):
Sorry about it, I'm a giant.
So here we are with CriticalBarn.
Sandeep Parikh (25:19):
Yes, you can find them all over Twitch Yep,
sometimes, sometimes, sometimes.
What does that mean?
Things change.
I'm lazy, okay lazy accomplice.
Omar Najam (25:27):
You're busy, you're right.
You're right?
Uh, dude, how's?
Sandeep Parikh (25:30):
your bench being going and give us a highlight.
What's a highlight?
Critical Bard (aka Omega Jo (25:33):
and a low light maybe oh, a
highlight and a low light.
Uh, the low light is theseprices, cancer.
Highlight is honestly seeingall the people in the community
uh, again, we don't get toreally be face to face.
Yeah, especially because of thepandemic yeah we're slowly
getting out of our shell, uh,starting to see each other, uh.
But I've had a good timebecause the panel is about toxic
masculinity yeah, that's thepeople that's been beating your
pro exactly.
Omar Najam (25:59):
That's amazing and it's so important, especially in
the space.
I mean think back five, sevenyears ago.
Yeah, right, this was, and even, and before that it was so
important, especially in thisspace.
I mean think back five, sevenyears ago, right, this was, and
before that it was so much worse, it was a wasteland.
Critical Bard (aka Omega J (26:07):
Yeah , and so much has changed.
Omar Najam (26:09):
Yeah.
Critical Bard (aka Omega Jo (26:09):
The world is starting to respect
that gamer culture is an actualthing and people can make this
their careers.
KP Upadhyayula (KPStudios1 (26:14):
Yeah , which is even better, yeah.
Critical Bard (aka Omega Jo (26:16):
And it's so diverse it's not all
just cis white dudes Like it's.
Like y'all are cute.
I love you, but you can likestep in the back, right.
But I'm really happy with howthings are going, especially in
the gaming industry, and it'sonly gonna keep growing from
here.
Sandeep Parikh (26:29):
So that's what I'm telling you.
Where are you going?
What's next for you?
What are you-.
Critical Bard (aka Omega (26:33):
What's next is my bed.
Sandeep Parikh (26:34):
Yeah.
Critical Bard (aka Omega J (26:35):
Next to my bed would be a deck of
magic cards.
Omar Najam (26:38):
Yes.
Critical Bard (aka Omega Jo (26:38):
And a.
So that's what's next for me,okay.
Omar Najam (26:40):
Beautiful.
Get that potassium A little bit.
Critical Bard (aka Omega J (26:42):
Yeah , I guess, never mind, I'm not
going to go there.
Sandeep Parikh (26:45):
Okay, I wasn't sure, maybe you can set.
This is the last thing.
You settle a debate.
We do a little segment on ourpodcast.
We're two South Asians, youknow, doing a podcast together,
so we always do this versus that.
Yeah, take an against eachother.
So we're surveying the fieldabout this, okay.
So of course, we're in Beantown, we're in Boston, the land of
(27:05):
Dunkin' Donuts, so we chose theDunkin' Donut Munchkin versus
the Indian Sweet Gulab Jamun.
And it's okay.
If you haven't tried it, I have.
Okay.
Critical Bard (aka Omega Jo (27:17):
And it wins.
Yes, it's nice.
Sandeep Parikh (27:26):
Here and like here's the thing Munchkins are
cute, overrated.
I do love Dunkin'.
I do super sweet, we do loveDunkin'.
In case you want to sponsor us,we absolutely love your.
Critical Bard (aka Omeg (27:29):
Dunkin' yeah, sponsor us, sponsor us,
but there's something about whatis the kind of.
I don't want to butcher it.
I'm not getting cast on 2024.
Gulab Jamun, gulab Jamun, thankyou, it was so fresh and the
brand All of it.
Yeah, I want that again, okay.
Sandeep Parikh (27:42):
Okay, all right, you heard it here.
Omar Najam (27:52):
Critical, critical barn.
It goes.
Gulab Jamun Yep, huge, hugevote, thank you.
Thank you for being right timeto check with the chakra.
Okay, I like that.
Like that here at the end ofpacks right, we're closing out
Pax East right end of Sunday.
Sandeep Parikh (27:58):
Things are winding down, but you know, I
think Video games were seminal.
But I don't know that I everthought growing up I'd be
walking through a convention, avideo game convention.
Did you ever think that wasgonna?
Omar Najam (28:10):
no, genuinely no.
I mean, we had an animeconvention in downtown San Jose.
Yeah, go to that.
I used to go to comic bookconventions all the time.
Yeah, but like this is like,can you hear that?
There's an arena over there,there's an arena where people
are playing?
Yeah, and.
I never knew that, like in allmy like in college, we just
played Smash non-stop.
And then we're now here andthere's an entire convention
center filled with the peopleplaying games.
Sandeep Parikh (28:30):
I know I have so much that I owe to video games.
It basically jumps out of mycareer.
You know the Guild, the Legendof Neon.
Yes, yes, yes Video game basedshows and, yeah, I'm so thankful
, you know, in a way, thatpeople's love for video games
extended into me being able tomake shows about them.
Omar Najam (28:47):
I mean it's crazy and it's look at how many
different as we're walkingaround in the background, how
many different games there are,how many different types of
playing there are, how manyfolks are playing with complete
strangers getting alongunderstanding a similar
vocabulary and this has become alanguage.
Sandeep Parikh (29:01):
It's so cool.
I love.
I just love the, that sort oflike, the vibe of like I want to
experiment, I want to trysomething new.
Yeah, if that's a thing for you, I gotta make it out to one of
these conventions.
I mean, it's really cool.
If you've ever been at, youknow, an NES, not like I was
growing up or you know you'relike this is the thing about,
about being my age.
I think, is that we had sort ofthe feeling of like oh, you're
(29:24):
going to grow out of playingvideo games, right, and that's
like a kid's thing to do, yeah.
And you're going to stop at acertain point.
KP Upadhyayula (KPStudios1 (29:29):
Yeah .
Sandeep Parikh (29:30):
I think a lot of folks in my gen are like oh
yeah, they did that, they grewout of it and feel like they
couldn't come back to it.
Omar Najam (29:40):
But I hope I mean you're one of those people.
Sandeep Parikh (29:42):
come out to one of these conventions and find
your love for video games again.
This is absolutely insane.
It's rad Like look at this.
What Look?
Xander @ Fantasy Flight Game (29:50):
at that.
Look at this.
Sandeep Parikh (29:54):
For those of you unfamiliar with experiencing
esports right, this is a giantthrong of people with
commentators watching,professionals, professional
video game players, go at it andkick each other's ass, watching
it like it's a prize fight,taking side bets People taking
(30:16):
side bets right now.
Omar Najam (30:17):
If they're not, we should probably start running
that hustle we're going to dosome prop bets.
Sandeep Parikh (30:20):
Watch, you hear it.
When this goes to a KO, this isgoing to go crazy.
We're down to seven seconds.
We're down.
Do some prop bets.
Omar Najam (30:24):
Watch you hear it.
When this goes to a KO, this isgonna go crazy.
We're down to seven seconds.
We're down to six seconds.
Oh my, oh, oh.
Sandeep Parikh (30:32):
What, what Incredible.
I don't know if it was an upsetor not, but it was very
exciting.
That was an upset.
Omar Najam (30:37):
That was an upset, I lost 50.
Sandeep Parikh (30:45):
Pax East is now closed.
They just announced it.
Oh boy, we did it.
We closed this place.
Down me and you, dude.
Yep.
Opening the closed?
Yeah, definitely.
Omar Najam (31:16):
Oh, what a good time we closed it out we closed it
out.
Sandeep Parikh (31:20):
Yeah, you know what I enjoyed?
I enjoyed that little.
I don't think we caught thatmoment on film, unfortunately,
because I didn't know they weregoing to do it, but they sort of
just announced, right, likethat's it, everybody, that's the
end of PAX East, and then, likeeverybody who was there kind of
applauded and applauded.
It was kind of a cool moment,like we all did it, we did it,
(31:41):
it was we talk about it whenwe're hanging out with KP, but
it was our first PAX Easts.
Omar Najam (31:47):
It was my first.
Sandeep Parikh (31:48):
Yeah, that's right, it was our first PAX.
I've been to PAXs, but that wasour first PAX East and it did
have like a different vibe.
It had an East Coast vibe, ithad a Dunkin's vibe.
Omar Najam (31:56):
Yeah.
You know A fucking.
Sandeep Parikh (32:03):
Dunkin' Donuts munchkin.
Yeah, my greatest shame is mylove of munchkins over glove
gentlemen.
Travis @ Dispel Dice (32:07):
I'm sorry everyone.
Sandeep Parikh (32:09):
My ancestors.
I'm sorry.
Omar Najam (32:11):
But we had such a good time and it truly was.
It feels different.
It's a convention that feelsdifferent and when, like you
said, when they closed it outand they said lights off, it was
just so much applause andcheering and everyone's like
we'll see you next year and it'sjust a great energy.
Sandeep Parikh (32:27):
Like I'm not like now I'm racking my brain
because I've been to so manyconventions.
I'm like do they do this atother conventions or is that
just specific to PAX East?
Because I guess maybe I don'tknow that I've ever closed a
convention out like that before.
Omar Najam (32:45):
Or maybe that's just like a PAX thing thing, I don't
know.
It just felt cool, it felt itwas all vibes.
It was usually.
For me it's like we're allracing around buying like dice
with like little ducks and stuffin them and they're just like
you have to leave, and then theyget like like a sprit water
spritzers and they're just goingaround just like just yeah
chasing us out like rats therats that we are right and that
exactly, they've got like afolded.
Sandeep Parikh (32:59):
What do you call it?
Omar Najam (33:00):
like newspapers, yeah get out of here, you animal
, go home go get out thanks forjoining us for it.
Sandeep Parikh (33:09):
As always.
If you are enjoying our show,we would love for you to support
us, like we have so manysupporters, you know.
So jump onto that bandwagon ifyou would.
It really helps us out over atpatreon.
That's patreoncom.
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You can jump on at any tier.
There's all sorts of slasheffin' funny, e-f-f-i-n funny.
You can jump on at any tier.
There's all sorts of fun things.
I guess we should just quicklyshout out the people because we
(33:30):
should do that.
Yeah, that would be, great,that's our thing.
So I'm just going to rip it.
I'm going to rip it as anannouncement over the speakers
of PAX East.
All right, everybody, put yourhands together for Joshua Ryan,
tommy M, carlo, benjamin Lowe,brenda Hollinger, michael Logg,
raylan Fox, celine B, nervousRex, sarah H, dodeka, cotuplet,
(33:50):
varun, moldy Vort, philip Dyson,kathleen Schlegel, ducati,
reverend Coutinho, brandon Pace.
Brandon Pace, your car isdouble parked.
Monroe Maxwell, jeremy Schwartz, han Solso, 8bitd.
Why is she still on?
Is she still on here?
Okay, chris Sims, dan Wally,christina Romero, zach Danny's
Corner, fiche Legion247, jeremyO'Brien, astra and Brendan
(34:10):
Bradley.
And, of course, I will neverclose down for the gods.
Those are the god tier levelpeople.
James Gaffney, scribbles andFlapjacks, vaden and Death.
Queen Vex, you guys all rule.
Omar Najam (34:21):
Amazing.
Some fireworks at the end theretoo, if you listen very
carefully, that was prettyexciting.
Sandeep Parikh (34:26):
The show has been produced by Anand Shah and
Caitlin Mahoney.
The show's technical directorand sound designer is Delvin
Neville.
Now I'm in my head.
The show's executive producersare I know how to say this
Sandeep Parikh and Anand Shah.
Music by Harshal Sasodia,jasper Singh and Malik Saveri.
This has been an FNFunnyproduction Awesome.
Critical Bard (aka Omega (34:47):
Thanks so much everyone.
Well, hello everyone .
Ho ho ho.
Look at this.
Sandeep Parikh (00:04):
Yeah, this is exciting.
Hey, I am.
I'm Sundeep.
I'm going to introduce myselfthis time.
Usually, we introduce eachother, but today's a special
episode, we do, yeah.
Omar Najam (00:11):
This is a special.
I'm Omer Najam, and this is aspecial because normally we
would be on Twitch, we'd be live, we'd be playing some games.
Delvin would be telling us thatwe're doing something
incorrectly in the game.
Sandeep Parikh (00:22):
And he'd be right.
Yeah, he'd be correct, buttoday we're changing it up.
We went to PAX East in Bostonand we decided to film some of
our shenanigans there instead,so we're giving you this as a
special episode.
Omar Najam (00:34):
That's right.
That's right.
We hung out with a bunch ofgame developers.
We got to chat with some folkswho make dice.
We even ran into a couple ofour friends along the way.
KP Upadhyayula (KPStudios11) (00:42):
We filmed the whole thing and we
cut it together.
Omar Najam (00:45):
Yeah, we have a couple of friends.
You'll see all of them, that'sright.
Sandeep Parikh (00:50):
All four of them , including my new friend,
because I got mind flayed,that's right.
Yeah, so enjoy that.
All right Well without furtherado here it is our adventures in
Boston at.
Pax East.
Hey, everyone, hi.
Oh, welcome to the ABCD Pocket.
You thought you were in Boston,but no, I mean you are.
Omar Najam (01:12):
You are actually, so you're correct.
Sandeep Parikh (01:14):
Yeah, but you thought you were flying through
Boston.
Yeah, it turns out you'reflying through our minds here at
the Westin.
That's right, historic Westin.
I have no idea if it's historic.
Yeah, sam Adams built ithimself With his bare hands With
his bare hands.
But we are here live at PAXEast, which is a big video game
convention in Boston, and we'regonna go check out some stuff.
Omar Najam (01:32):
We got a panel later today, but first we wanna take
you around the floor.
So come on, let's go.
Let's go, let's go to Boston.
Sandeep Parikh (01:52):
Okay, so of course we're in Boston, so we're
going to have to have a Dunkin'Donuts booth.
Omar Najam (01:57):
Yes, you're right, it has to be a thing Right here.
Check this out.
We got our Dunkies our preciousDunkies.
Sandeep Parikh (02:02):
We got a Dunkkeys activation.
Yeah, where people are, it'slike, it's pretty cool, let's go
look at it.
Let's go look at it real quick.
Okay, so here's what'shappening, as you can see, right
, people throwing a ball at awall of donuts that are popping
up on a sort of pressurizedscreen.
Pretty good stuff, all right.
(02:23):
All right.
Pressurized screen.
Critical Bard (aka Omega (02:23):
Pretty good stuff.
Sandeep Parikh (02:24):
Alright, alright , it's kind of taking like Duck
Hunt to the next level.
Yeah to the next donut yeah Tothe next donut, of course we
have to have a this versus thatright.
Omar Najam (02:32):
Yeah, yeah.
Sandeep Parikh (02:33):
So look, we're in Boston.
Our this versus that.
This time Okay Is gonna be theDunkin Donuts Munchkin.
Okay Versus the Gulab Jamun.
Omar Najam (02:43):
Okay.
Sandeep Parikh (02:43):
Which is basically a munchkin smothered
in syrup.
Yeah, yeah.
That's great.
So we're just going to askrandom people what their
feelings are on those anddetermine once and for all what
does Boston love more?
Omar Najam (02:57):
Yeah, who should we ask?
First how about the mind flayer?
Let's ask the mind flayer.
Sandeep Parikh (03:03):
You want a munchkin or a glob jamun Mind
Flayer.
Let's ask the Mind Flayer Wanta munchkin or a glab jabba?
Mind Flayer, glab jabba.
You heard it here first.
The Mind Flayer flayed me anddefinitely said glab jabba.
Omar Najam (03:16):
That's amazing.
Yeah, yeah, Alright so that'sone vote already.
Sandeep Parikh (03:19):
He's a big Indian food fan.
Omar Najam (03:20):
That's beautiful.
Thank you for your service.
Thank you, Mime.
Sandeep Parikh (03:23):
Flare, and now he lives forever in my id.
Omar Najam (03:25):
Oh, that's beautiful , it's going to be good.
Sandeep Parikh (03:35):
Hey, we're here with Travis at the Dispel Dice
booth.
Yes, aren't we, Hi Travis, higuys, hi guys.
What are you holding?
Travis @ Dispel Dice (03:40):
So I've got one of our Mimic chests, our
Dispel Dice dog toys Verypopular at this con.
So the chest comes with threecoins, all squeaky.
And how many different dog toyswere you selling?
We have three different dogtoys.
We have our Red Dragon, whichis unfortunately sold out, along
with the gelatinous cube wealso have our mimic, which we
(04:02):
still have in stock.
Omar Najam (04:03):
And, of course, you've got, you know, your dice,
which are some of my favoritedice that I have in my
collection.
Are these new guys here, these?
Travis @ Dispel Dice (04:10):
are the new guys, so we have some new
sets here at PAX.
I want to show you guys, ourparties, our class sets.
Okay, so we have our damage persecond set DPS.
Yes, we have our healer set.
Sandeep Parikh (04:25):
These are awesome and we have our tank set
.
Travis @ Dispel Dice (04:28):
All of these come with an accompanying
candle made by Cantrip.
Omar Najam (04:31):
You're joking Our friends at Cantrip.
Travis @ Dispel Dice (04:33):
Yes, great guys over there.
Sandeep Parikh (04:35):
What makes these things so deadly sharp, Like I
feel like they're powerful and Icould?
Omar Najam (04:40):
do some real, actual DPS, like as you roll, the
table is getting like yeah, wewould not recommend that
litigation might come.
Travis @ Dispel Dice (04:47):
Oh god, as you say it, he does, oh god.
Omar Najam (04:51):
For those listening.
Sandeep has knocked over theentire display here at PAX East
he sure did, okay, okay, firstroll of the game.
Sandeep Parikh (04:57):
I got a one.
I'm actually a one.
I think that sounds about right.
Omar Najam (05:02):
Where can everyone find more stuff of all Dispel
online we are?
Travis @ Dispel Dice (05:05):
currently selling DispelDicecom.
We have a store on Etsy andAmazon now Beautiful, look at
that.
Sandeep Parikh (05:11):
All right, and then our final question that
we've got to ask right, Becausethis is ABCD podcast.
Omar Najam (05:16):
American Born Chatty Daisy, so it's a South Asian
focus.
Okay, okay, conversation.
Sandeep Parikh (05:25):
So we've we gotta ask you what would you
rather have, this versus that, aDunkin' Donuts munchkin or an
Indian glob jammer?
Travis @ Dispel Dice (05:31):
I have not had that before, okay, so I
would try it.
Sandeep Parikh (05:35):
They're like syrupy munchkins, basically.
Have you ever seen that?
I have not.
Travis @ Dispel Dice (05:40):
But I'm down to try it.
I would rather try somethingnew than try something I've
never tried before.
I would rather try somethingnew than try something I haven't
done before.
Sandeep Parikh (05:45):
I love that.
So, sight unseen, we gotta votefor Globjammin.
Omar Najam (05:49):
Our first non-Mind Flayer vote for Globjammin.
Sandeep Parikh (05:51):
Thank you.
Travis @ Dispel Dice (05:52):
Thank you so much for having us.
It's been a pleasure.
Sainath @ Shape Invaders (06:03):
So my name is Sainaf.
We manufacture board games forExploding Kittens, big Potato,
so all those sort of things.
We do design development forthem.
But this is our nextKickstarter.
It's called Shape Invaders.
Sandeep Parikh (06:15):
I've got to ask you about this game, because
this game reminds me of playingKarim as a kid.
Sainath @ Shape Invaders (06:23):
So I basically grew up playing Karim
my whole life.
So this is essentially Karimfor the western market.
But the big thing with Karim isyou need a bigger, you need
like a huge board essentially,and my board's, like the one at
home, is like three generationsold.
But they cost a lot of money.
So the whole aim with ShapeInvaders is that you can play a
flicking game game, a dexteritygame on any table you want.
So we manufacture them in acertain way that had like a low
(06:46):
surface contact area.
So even if you had like awobbly board or like a bumpy
board or a bumpy table, you canplay the game.
Essentially, you're trying toget rid of your opponent's
motherships off the table, soyou're flicking pieces, exactly.
Yeah, you guys shoulddefinitely check out.
Check us out onshapeinvadersgamecom.
Sandeep Parikh (07:06):
We have to ask you.
We do a thing on our showcalled this vs that, when we
compare a chai vs a coffee.
Critical Bard (aka Omega Jone (07:14):
A lazy thing vs an.
Neeraj Shah (07:15):
American thing Because we're in Boston.
Sandeep Parikh (07:18):
It's the Dunkin Donuts munchkin vs the glob
donuts.
What do you choose and behonest?
Sainath @ Shape Invaders (07:24):
The munchkin.
The thing is it might bedifferent because Tamil or Sri
Lankan glob jamun is so sweetand I quite like the munchkins.
Actually In the UK we don't getDunkin Donuts.
Omar Najam (07:40):
Right.
So this is an exotic.
Yeah, exactly, yeah, right.
Sainath @ Shape Invaders (07:44):
This is their glob job.
Sandeep Parikh (07:46):
Yeah, pretty much it makes sense I got to be
honest.
Yeah, I'm on team Munchkin.
Omar Najam (07:51):
I'm going to be honest, I'm team Munchkin, you
guys.
Sandeep Parikh (07:53):
I'm with you, man, I think it's too sweet.
Omar Najam (07:55):
What is this we can't do?
Sandeep Parikh (07:57):
this.
It's too sweet.
You're dipping in sweet syrup.
Yes, it's the syrup.
Yes, you are.
Sainath @ Shape Invaders (08:03):
The thing is, I can have maybe like
two or three in one go, but thenI'm like I can't have any more
than this.
Sandeep Parikh (08:09):
I'm out for like a month.
Yeah, exactly, it's like jalebias well.
Sainath @ Shape Invaders (08:14):
I can have like two at max, and then
I'm like someone, please help me, I look at do jalebi versus
jelly beans.
Omar Najam (08:19):
Yeah, that's a comparison.
Critical Bard (aka Omeg (08:29):
Awesome .
Omar Najam (08:29):
Thank you again so much for letting us hang out.
It was great.
Sandeep Parikh (08:37):
Okay, when you're trying to interview
someone very famous and a bigdeal like Anjali, you have to,
you know, work around theadoring fans that are gonna try
to grab some pictures with her,and that's just like.
That's just like the deal.
We're just talking about yourfame right now, Anjali.
KP Upadhyayula (KPStudios1 (08:54):
Fame .
I wanna live forever, Whoa.
Omar Najam (08:57):
Where'd this come from, Not I would love to have a
life hey.
Sandeep Parikh (09:01):
Do not have the rights to that song.
KP Upadhyayula (KPStudios (09:03):
We're so screwed.
Sandeep Parikh (09:04):
We're so happy to have Anjali finally here at
PAX.
She had a whole saga to gethere it only took me four
flights.
Oh, my God.
KP Upadhyayula (KPStudi (09:12):
Getting bumped four times.
Critical Bard (aka Omega Jo (09:14):
But I got it I am here.
Anjali Bhimani (09:15):
I've had a little bit of tricky life with
travel lately, but I feel likeI'm here at the right time.
Sandeep Parikh (09:20):
You're here in time for a panel which is like
what really matters, likehonestly, come and buy more dice
.
Obviously I need more dice frommisty mountain gaming who
sponsored us to be here too.
So we love them.
We love misty mountain gaming.
We're doing a little segment.
It's called auntie versusauntie watch 2024, and we
thought we had to bring thebaddest auntie of them all, yep,
(09:41):
to here to to figure this out.
Okay, so that?
Anjali Bhimani (09:45):
auntie is here for you.
Let's go.
Sandeep Parikh (09:46):
Now listen, we're not necessarily politics
guys in general, but what sortof struck us about this 2024
presidential race was we aretechnically two heartbeats away
from there being two auntiesgoing head to head Nikki Haley,
right Technically an auntie,kamala Kamala.
Aunt Kamala Kamala auntie.
Much more listen, listen.
(10:10):
However you feel about eitherof them.
The point is it would behistoric.
It was auntie versus auntieRight so our metric right now is
that we're doing a watch like adoomsday clock metric right now
is that we're doing a watchlike a doomsday clock.
Omar Najam (10:24):
Yeah, imagine like an auntie with like two arms an
hour.
Actually don't worry about theother arm, it's just one.
It's just an hour.
Sandeep Parikh (10:29):
Yeah, but we're going in reverse, because the
way like a doomsday clock, whenit hits midnight it's bad news,
doom right.
For us if it's auntie versusauntie, probably a better
scenario.
Anjali Bhimani (10:40):
Kind of win-win.
Here's the thing about auntiestoo.
For all of the bad rap thatthey get, my aunties are dope as
fuck.
They are the best they arealways there for you in a pinch,
and they get things done.
Sandeep Parikh (10:52):
That's right.
Anjali Bhimani (10:53):
You want to get something done, give it to an
auntie.
Sandeep Parikh (10:55):
That's right.
Anjali Bhimani (10:55):
She may judge you for how you're doing it
wrong.
She'll do it oh not, may shewill just take it out of your
hands and do it.
Yeah, 100%.
Sandeep Parikh (11:04):
She'll get it done.
Right now it's at 11.57.
It's very close to doomsday.
They're both running againstyou.
They're Biden versus Trumpright now.
The aunties are.
Omar Najam (11:14):
Some updates right.
Sandeep Parikh (11:16):
There are some updates.
Not a ton, but there are someupdates, some legal stuff that's
going on and everything.
What time would you put us at?
Omar Najam (11:25):
Between noon and midnight Noon, being auntie
versus auntie.
Anjali Bhimani (11:29):
I feel like 11.58.
We're close.
Sandeep Parikh (11:32):
Between, for what?
For it's remaining not auntieversus auntie right.
Anjali Bhimani (11:36):
No, tell me, I don't quite understand.
We're going.
Okay, I know, I know it'sconfusing, it's a terrible
convoluted system.
Sandeep Parikh (11:42):
If we get to 1 o'clock, that means it's
basically auntie versus auntie.
Right now we're at close to 12.
Because it's probably going tobe Biden versus.
Omar Najam (11:50):
Trump 1pm is good auntie versus auntie Midnight is
bad.
I feel like we're 2020.
Sandeep Parikh (11:56):
You think we're going back.
Do you think that like?
Anjali Bhimani (11:58):
No, I think we're going in the direction.
I think we're going in theright direction.
Okay, towards 1 pm.
I'm trying to be bipartisanwhile I say this, but it might
be the only silver lining in mypersonal opinion of that
situation, so we should knock itback an hour for Anjali's
(12:20):
blessing.
Omar Najam (12:20):
Yes, 11 pm.
Sandeep Parikh (12:22):
We're at 11 pm Instead of 11.57,.
We're going to knock it back 57minutes to 11 pm.
Does that sound?
11 pm Instead of 11 57?
We're gonna knock it back 57minutes to 11 pm.
Does that sound good?
Sure, because I still don'tunderstand the system.
Great Because it's veryconvoluted.
It doesn't make any sense.
Anjali Bhimani (12:32):
But you know what Auntie's are, complicated
people too, you know?
Sandeep Parikh (12:34):
Yeah, it's true, that's right.
Anjali Bhimani (12:36):
They're very complicated on the inside.
Sandeep Parikh (12:37):
Alright, we're at 11 pm, we're getting there.
Omar Najam (12:53):
Hey everyone, we're here with Xander from Fantasy
Flight Games.
How's it going?
Xander @ Fantasy Flight Gam (12:57):
I'm doing great.
It's been a wonderful time hereat PAX East Beautiful.
Omar Najam (13:01):
You're here with Star Wars Unlimited, correct?
I'm?
Xander @ Fantasy Flight Ga (13:03):
here with Star Wars Unlimited.
So yeah, we're showing off thebrand new trading card game.
It's been about two weeks sincethe release, so it's been
really fun.
Omar Najam (13:09):
God, that's amazing For folks who don't know what
Star Wars Unlimited is.
What would be a two-sent youwould give?
Xander @ Fantasy Flight Ga (13:14):
Star Wars Unlimited is a fast paced,
strategic trading card game.
It has it's full of iconiccharacters, vehicles, moments
from the Star Wars galaxy thatreally will bring in long time
Star Wars fans as well as fansof trading card games.
Omar Najam (13:27):
And you also have a just in the mechanic of you have
like an aerial attack situationas well as a land base, right?
Xander @ Fantasy Flight Gam (13:32):
Yes , so it's very Star Wars in that
you are going in space andground simultaneously, you know,
fighting for aerial dominance,like you said.
Omar Najam (13:39):
And also you have your troops on the ground doing
their best job to control thebattlefield.
The third act of every StarWars movie.
Xander @ Fantasy Flight Ga (13:43):
yeah , Exactly, it is the epitome of
Star Wars there.
Omar Najam (13:46):
You have a bunch of Rogue One features which I love
because I'm a big Rogue One fan.
Might be a contentious opinion,but it made me very happy, Is
it?
Sandeep Parikh (13:53):
It's a contentious opinion.
I know people who get reallyhuge about Rogue One.
Well, Star Wars everyone.
Omar Najam (13:57):
Thank you Okay great .
Sandeep Parikh (13:59):
Yes, yeah, me too.
I think it's the best of thesort of prequel.
I mean not just because I'mfriends with Gary Whitta and I'm
contractually obligated to saythat.
Yes, yeah.
Omar Najam (14:09):
Well, we'll have to play at some point.
We've got to play.
But for right now, in terms of1v, we have a little game we're
playing around the conventionfloor today on ABCD American
born Teddy Daisy's.
We take an iconically Americanthing and then juxtapose against
an iconically South Asian thingand you to choose one Okay, the
Dunkin Donuts munchkin or aglob Jamin.
Sandeep Parikh (14:32):
Okay, it's a popular dessert.
It's like their little balls,like dough balls, that are in
syrup, yeah, and in like a rosesyrup, so yeah.
Xander @ Fantasy Flight Gam (14:39):
I'm gonna have to go with that
because I love rose syrup.
Wow, I am in on it, and that'scoming from a big fan of the
munchkin.
Omar Najam (14:47):
Oh, look at that.
Sandeep Parikh (14:48):
But yeah, I would have to say I'm in, we've
converted a munchkin head into aglob joblin head.
Xander @ Fantasy Flight Gam (14:53):
I'm so sorry, Munchkin heads out
there, give it a try.
Thank you I love that, give ita try.
Omar Najam (14:59):
Well, thank you so much, and we can't wait to play
more.
Sandeep Parikh (15:00):
Yes, thank you so much.
Awesome, great to see your con.
This is perfect.
This is what I was hoping tohappen, right?
KP Upadhyayula (KPStudios1 (15:12):
when we're recording the.
Sandeep Parikh (15:13):
ABCD podcast.
KP Upadhyayula (KPStudios11) (15:14):
We got KP right here in the flesh.
Sandeep Parikh (15:18):
Dude, how was your con?
KP Upadhyayula (KPStudios11) (15:20):
It went really well.
I had a lot of fun.
This was my first ever PAX East.
Sandeep Parikh (15:24):
Same here, same oh man PAX East versions Look at
that.
KP Upadhyayula (KPStudios1 (15:27):
Yeah , this is all the daisies at PAX
East.
Travis @ Dispel Dice (15:30):
We're breaking it.
KP Upadhyayula (KPStudios (15:31):
We're breaking in no it was a lot of
fun.
I got to do a panel yesterday,which was great, amazing.
I'm here to do photos.
It was about networking in thespace.
It was called Charisma Check,which I liked a lot.
But it was all about how tonetwork in the space, how to
connect with folks withoutoverstepping your boundaries, oh
yeah, For example, asking to beon a podcast as they're about
(15:51):
to leave the convention.
No, no, or my brother carryingtheir bags.
This was actually a perfectexample of a good way, because
we already had a good connection.
We knew each other and we knewthat we were safe around each
other and this is a nice hey.
We're trying to help each other, uplift all of us Versus.
(16:11):
Like you know, you might havesomeone who's never met you
before.
Come up and be like let mepresent to you 30 minutes of all
the cool things that I do, andthen can you help me and you're
just like I'm just trying to eatmy sandwich, bro.
Thank you, I'm just trying toshake one out and leave.
I'm so sorry.
Shake one out.
Sandeep Parikh (16:25):
I'm stealing that term for you, for people
who don't know you.
Can you tell them all about you?
Oh my God.
KP Upadhyayula (KPStudios11 (16:32):
And here's where the imposter
syndrome comes in.
But we're're gonna say F you tothat and say my name is KP.
I go by KP 11 studios and allyour social medias.
I'm a photographer, voice actor, culture consultant, performer
on a piece and otherwise, aswell as a writer on various
projects, all of them fairlydecent.
I'm not gonna say I'm the bestat them, but it is good enough
(16:53):
and I'm proud of it.
So there we are no no, no, it's.
It's all people are.
It's a group effort.
It's all I'm gonna be the best.
Yeah, breakout, stop marks.
Amazing, wonderful, let's gobreak it out.
Yes, whenever you'reuncomfortable, break out the
Indian accent, right yourphotography style is incredible.
Omar Najam (17:16):
I would go so far say iconic like when you see KP.
You know it's KP stuff.
Yeah, there's very fewphotographers.
I know that you could say thatwhen?
You're like, you can look atthis person's work and be like I
know exactly who did this.
Sandeep Parikh (17:29):
And this is not just us sucking up to try to get
free photos from KP.
Bro, it's fun Okay, we found aReka in the wild.
Omar Najam (17:42):
It's hard Okay, we found a Reka in the wild, hey,
and you know what that means.
When you find a Reka, we getfree samples of food.
Sandeep Parikh (17:47):
That's right.
Let's go.
When you find a Lado Ante inthe wild, you get free samples.
Anjali Bhimani (17:51):
Oh my god.
My aunt used to release me intoSam's Club like a wild animal
for the sample.
Omar Najam (17:56):
Okay, so take us through this.
What is coffee?
So?
Travis @ Dispel Dice (17:57):
they have a home blend and they have a
light blend.
Sandeep Parikh (18:01):
Okay, okay, I've already studied it.
Omar Najam (18:03):
You're asking what coffee is?
Yeah, it's bean water.
Okay, that's coffee, wow, yeah.
Anjali Bhimani (18:09):
You grind up, so you get your beans, you give
them a wash, you roast them.
Omar Najam (18:13):
So it's like an aquafaba sort of situation.
Anjali Bhimani (18:14):
Huh, I'm excited to try this coffee.
Omar Najam (18:17):
Which one are you looking forward to the most?
I?
Anjali Bhimani (18:18):
would like the Home Blood.
Okay, and now I can't tell youwhy it?
Said it was comforting.
Yeah, so that sounds nice,because home is comforting
sometimes.
Sometimes it can be stressful,home Blood.
Omar Najam (18:23):
You're getting the house blend.
You said something.
Well to be honest if.
I'm being honest, I actuallywas already at this booth, I
would home blood.
Sandeep Parikh (18:35):
So yes, he's back, Wait, but now you have to
pretend to be somebody else toget another free sample.
Neeraj Shah (18:38):
Yeah.
Sandeep Parikh (18:38):
No.
Sainath @ Shape Invaders (18:39):
I don't, they know.
Anjali Bhimani (18:40):
I'm sick, I actually said.
Sainath @ Shape Invaders (18:42):
I'm like I said.
Anjali Bhimani (18:42):
I'm sick and they saw the mastermind.
You're sick, I'm like no, no no, no, I'm mentally sick.
Sandeep Parikh (18:46):
Maybe they just I need to have more coffee.
Parents, they don't understandthat.
Sainath @ Shape Invaders (18:54):
My dad is so profoundly embarrassing
with samples.
Omar Najam (18:57):
Yeah, yes, it's sample culture.
Anjali Bhimani (19:01):
My dad would cut the line and ask for one of
each 100%.
Sandeep Parikh (19:06):
My dad.
He now just literally and thisis not a joke he loves tiny
spoons.
Okay, and so whenever we go toany ice cream place and they
give you a free sample, hedoesn't ask anymore, he just
goes I'm taking this, I'm takingthis.
Omar Najam (19:20):
Like at Salt and Straw.
He would just be like and it'sused.
Sandeep Parikh (19:23):
It's the spoon they gave him and they're not
plastic, they're like metalspoons or whatever.
KP Upadhyayula (KPStudios1 (19:26):
Yeah , actual spoons.
Sandeep Parikh (19:27):
And then he will , I'm not even kidding, that's
theft.
Omar Najam (19:36):
He goes, I'm going to about it.
That's robbery.
Yeah, that's Like a bank.
Robbery isn't legal becausesomeone's like chick-chick.
Sandeep Parikh (19:42):
No, that's not true.
I'm taking it.
Yeah, If you tell them it'sactually a law, I'm gonna Hi,
Hello how's it going?
Omar Najam (19:47):
We fought.
You're a legend.
Anjali Bhimani (19:53):
I love you.
I'm, can you say that into?
Sandeep Parikh (19:54):
the recording microphone.
Anjali Bhimani (19:55):
Hi, my name is Catherine Linehan, For the legal
record.
I am a huge fan.
Sandeep Parikh (20:04):
Okay, guess what ?
I found another Sandeep.
Hello, my name is SandeepShashihadhan Nice to meet you,
and I'm Sandeep Parikh.
Oh, my gosh, this is veryexciting for me Very exciting,
you know yeah yeah, yeah.
How many other Sandeeps haveyou found in the line that?
Only one of us only.
Where did you find this other?
That's a tennis court, Okay andwho's the better somebody?
This guy yeah yeah, yeah, buthe's probably a better tennis
player, was he nasty?
(20:25):
Also an uncle, damn.
I just got slammed by the othersomebody at the younger, sexier
, cooler somebody.
Okay, we're gonna do some thisversus that with our web
designer, the web designer ofdaisyquestcom who we found here
(20:46):
at the convention, neeraj Shah,that's right, and also fellow
New Hampshireite.
We're both the two Indians fromNew Hampshire.
Neeraj Shah (20:54):
I don't know if you know this.
Look at that.
We're from there and we made itout.
Sandeep Parikh (20:56):
You're goddamn right, Neeraj.
Hey, welcome to the ABCDpodcast.
Thanks for having me.
Neeraj Shah (21:01):
It's good to be here.
Sandeep Parikh (21:02):
I think technically, we did some
research on where the podcast isbeing downloaded and there's
like 16 downloads fromSomerville.
Is that you?
Neeraj Shah (21:11):
It could be.
You know, I just talked to you.
Sandeep Parikh (21:19):
We want to talk about us.
How did we do at the panel?
We just walked out of ourDesiQuest panel and I want to
know from your perspective areyou happy that you're web
designing for us, or are youlike wishing I never did this?
Yeah.
Neeraj Shah (21:31):
Okay, admittedly I'm biased, but I do think that
was my favorite panel of theentire weekend.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I'm notjust saying that to suck up to
you guys, but genuinely, like itwas very insightful, very fun.
Really appreciated all youranswers.
Omar Najam (21:53):
Glad.
Neeraj Shah (21:53):
I could be here for it.
Awesome, thank you.
That's so wonderful.
That's great, because we alsorushed on a minute before it
started.
Yeah, yeah.
Sandeep Parikh (21:58):
Yeah, we're almost too on time.
Okay, another quick thing aboutnear it before we jump jump
into our game is that Neeraj isnot just designing websites,
which you should do with him ifyou so choose but he's a
stand-up comedian, inspired meto do more stand-up myself super
funny dude and we animated ashow together a billion years
ago for Nerdist.
(22:19):
Tell the fans a little bitabout our history.
Neeraj Shah (22:23):
We've known each other what since 2008.
So, it's been a minute.
Sandeep Parikh (22:28):
Yeah.
Neeraj Shah (22:28):
Yeah, we worked together.
Game Off was our show.
Sandeep Parikh (22:31):
Game Off was our show.
Neeraj Shah (22:32):
That was a lot of fun.
That was a really good time.
Wish we could have gotten backand done some more of that.
Sandeep Parikh (22:37):
It was about two Goombas in Mario and what
they're doing in the momentsbefore they get stomped.
Every episode by Mario, it'sreally fun.
Neeraj Shah (22:47):
Well, former stand-up, I haven't performed in
a little bit.
I'm glad to know that Iinspired Sundy, because I say
this truly honestly in less thana year you've gotten better
than I have in doing it fornearly a decade.
Stop.
Sandeep Parikh (23:03):
Stop Go nearly a decade.
Stop, stop, go on, stop, stop,keep going Some most improved.
Omar Najam (23:07):
I see what you're saying.
Basically all right.
Sandeep Parikh (23:11):
Now we've got to get serious.
Yeah, okay, we're going to playa little game.
This is what we do on the show,as you may or may not know, is
the 16 downloads from Somerville, massachusetts, where you play
this versus that, and today'sthis versus that, in honor of
being in Boston, is Dunkin'Donuts, munchkins versus Gulab
Jamun, and you gotta be realabout this.
Okay, no pandering, and you arefrom the area, so I feel like
(23:35):
this should be interesting.
Where do you land and why?
Neeraj Shah (23:39):
This is a tough call, but also it's Gulab Jamun
all the way, because that's nota tough call at all yes.
Gulab Jamun is one of thepremier Indian treats.
It is perfect, everyone lovesit.
A munchkin.
Omar Najam (23:55):
Everyone.
Sandeep Parikh (23:57):
Some of them are good, some of them are bad.
KP Upadhyayula (KPStudios11) (24:00):
I just like the efficiency of like
hey stop throwing out those,the middles.
Sandeep Parikh (24:05):
We can do something with this.
They're not throwing out that.
You roll it back in and you getmore rings.
No, in my fantasy they take allthe, they were all throwing
them out.
And then some genius.
In this research that you didpurely in your own head.
As a four-year-old whodiscovered them, I thought they
were actually donut holes.
Omar Najam (24:21):
Okay, you make this the big circle and then you make
a little circle and they rollinto a ball and they go yeah,
they toss them.
Neeraj Shah (24:28):
That's right.
Okay, so if a jelly munchkin isthe middle of a jelly donut,
why doesn't all the jelly justleak out of it?
Sandeep Parikh (24:33):
Listen, my six-year-old self had an answer
for this.
It was probably somethingaround magic.
Neeraj Shah (24:39):
Do you have like your journals from when?
Sandeep Parikh (24:40):
you were six, could go back to your notes, and
it's all.
Neeraj Shah (24:42):
Munchkins.
Omar Najam (24:43):
It looks like the Zodiac Killer stuff.
It's actually really disturbing.
Sandeep Parikh (24:45):
All right, fine, I'm getting clearly crushed in
this game.
Thanks, neeraj.
Neeraj Shah (24:49):
Thank you so much for everything you do for the
show.
Hey, thanks for having me,thanks for talking to me and
thanks for doing this.
It's fantastic, all right wellsoon on the ABCD podcast.
Sandeep Parikh (25:09):
This is the beauty of PAX we get to run into
buddies that are from thestreams that you forget how much
taller they are than you inreal life.
Critical Bard (aka Omega (25:16):
Sorry about it, I'm a giant.
So here we are with CriticalBarn.
Sandeep Parikh (25:19):
Yes, you can find them all over Twitch Yep,
sometimes, sometimes, sometimes.
What does that mean?
Things change.
I'm lazy, okay lazy accomplice.
Omar Najam (25:27):
You're busy, you're right.
You're right?
Uh, dude, how's?
Sandeep Parikh (25:30):
your bench being going and give us a highlight.
What's a highlight?
Critical Bard (aka Omega Jo (25:33):
and a low light maybe oh, a
highlight and a low light.
Uh, the low light is theseprices, cancer.
Highlight is honestly seeingall the people in the community
uh, again, we don't get toreally be face to face.
Yeah, especially because of thepandemic yeah we're slowly
getting out of our shell, uh,starting to see each other, uh.
But I've had a good timebecause the panel is about toxic
masculinity yeah, that's thepeople that's been beating your
pro exactly.
Omar Najam (25:59):
That's amazing and it's so important, especially in
the space.
I mean think back five, sevenyears ago.
Yeah, right, this was, and even, and before that it was so
important, especially in thisspace.
I mean think back five, sevenyears ago, right, this was, and
before that it was so much worse, it was a wasteland.
Critical Bard (aka Omega J (26:07):
Yeah , and so much has changed.
Omar Najam (26:09):
Yeah.
Critical Bard (aka Omega Jo (26:09):
The world is starting to respect
that gamer culture is an actualthing and people can make this
their careers.
KP Upadhyayula (KPStudios1 (26:14):
Yeah , which is even better, yeah.
Critical Bard (aka Omega Jo (26:16):
And it's so diverse it's not all
just cis white dudes Like it's.
Like y'all are cute.
I love you, but you can likestep in the back, right.
But I'm really happy with howthings are going, especially in
the gaming industry, and it'sonly gonna keep growing from
here.
Sandeep Parikh (26:29):
So that's what I'm telling you.
Where are you going?
What's next for you?
What are you-.
Critical Bard (aka Omega (26:33):
What's next is my bed.
Sandeep Parikh (26:34):
Yeah.
Critical Bard (aka Omega J (26:35):
Next to my bed would be a deck of
magic cards.
Omar Najam (26:38):
Yes.
Critical Bard (aka Omega Jo (26:38):
And a.
So that's what's next for me,okay.
Omar Najam (26:40):
Beautiful.
Get that potassium A little bit.
Critical Bard (aka Omega J (26:42):
Yeah , I guess, never mind, I'm not
going to go there.
Sandeep Parikh (26:45):
Okay, I wasn't sure, maybe you can set.
This is the last thing.
You settle a debate.
We do a little segment on ourpodcast.
We're two South Asians, youknow, doing a podcast together,
so we always do this versus that.
Yeah, take an against eachother.
So we're surveying the fieldabout this, okay.
So of course, we're in Beantown, we're in Boston, the land of
(27:05):
Dunkin' Donuts, so we chose theDunkin' Donut Munchkin versus
the Indian Sweet Gulab Jamun.
And it's okay.
If you haven't tried it, I have.
Okay.
Critical Bard (aka Omega Jo (27:17):
And it wins.
Yes, it's nice.
Sandeep Parikh (27:26):
Here and like here's the thing Munchkins are
cute, overrated.
I do love Dunkin'.
I do super sweet, we do loveDunkin'.
In case you want to sponsor us,we absolutely love your.
Critical Bard (aka Omeg (27:29):
Dunkin' yeah, sponsor us, sponsor us,
but there's something about whatis the kind of.
I don't want to butcher it.
I'm not getting cast on 2024.
Gulab Jamun, gulab Jamun, thankyou, it was so fresh and the
brand All of it.
Yeah, I want that again, okay.
Sandeep Parikh (27:42):
Okay, all right, you heard it here.
Omar Najam (27:52):
Critical, critical barn.
It goes.
Gulab Jamun Yep, huge, hugevote, thank you.
Thank you for being right timeto check with the chakra.
Okay, I like that.
Like that here at the end ofpacks right, we're closing out
Pax East right end of Sunday.
Sandeep Parikh (27:58):
Things are winding down, but you know, I
think Video games were seminal.
But I don't know that I everthought growing up I'd be
walking through a convention, avideo game convention.
Did you ever think that wasgonna?
Omar Najam (28:10):
no, genuinely no.
I mean, we had an animeconvention in downtown San Jose.
Yeah, go to that.
I used to go to comic bookconventions all the time.
Yeah, but like this is like,can you hear that?
There's an arena over there,there's an arena where people
are playing?
Yeah, and.
I never knew that, like in allmy like in college, we just
played Smash non-stop.
And then we're now here andthere's an entire convention
center filled with the peopleplaying games.
Sandeep Parikh (28:30):
I know I have so much that I owe to video games.
It basically jumps out of mycareer.
You know the Guild, the Legendof Neon.
Yes, yes, yes Video game basedshows and, yeah, I'm so thankful
, you know, in a way, thatpeople's love for video games
extended into me being able tomake shows about them.
Omar Najam (28:47):
I mean it's crazy and it's look at how many
different as we're walkingaround in the background, how
many different games there are,how many different types of
playing there are, how manyfolks are playing with complete
strangers getting alongunderstanding a similar
vocabulary and this has become alanguage.
Sandeep Parikh (29:01):
It's so cool.
I love.
I just love the, that sort oflike, the vibe of like I want to
experiment, I want to trysomething new.
Yeah, if that's a thing for you, I gotta make it out to one of
these conventions.
I mean, it's really cool.
If you've ever been at, youknow, an NES, not like I was
growing up or you know you'relike this is the thing about,
about being my age.
I think, is that we had sort ofthe feeling of like oh, you're
(29:24):
going to grow out of playingvideo games, right, and that's
like a kid's thing to do, yeah.
And you're going to stop at acertain point.
KP Upadhyayula (KPStudios1 (29:29):
Yeah .
Sandeep Parikh (29:30):
I think a lot of folks in my gen are like oh
yeah, they did that, they grewout of it and feel like they
couldn't come back to it.
Omar Najam (29:40):
But I hope I mean you're one of those people.
Sandeep Parikh (29:42):
come out to one of these conventions and find
your love for video games again.
This is absolutely insane.
It's rad Like look at this.
What Look?
Xander @ Fantasy Flight Game (29:50):
at that.
Look at this.
Sandeep Parikh (29:54):
For those of you unfamiliar with experiencing
esports right, this is a giantthrong of people with
commentators watching,professionals, professional
video game players, go at it andkick each other's ass, watching
it like it's a prize fight,taking side bets People taking
(30:16):
side bets right now.
Omar Najam (30:17):
If they're not, we should probably start running
that hustle we're going to dosome prop bets.
Sandeep Parikh (30:20):
Watch, you hear it.
When this goes to a KO, this isgoing to go crazy.
We're down to seven seconds.
We're down.
Do some prop bets.
Omar Najam (30:24):
Watch you hear it.
When this goes to a KO, this isgonna go crazy.
We're down to seven seconds.
We're down to six seconds.
Oh my, oh, oh.
Sandeep Parikh (30:32):
What, what Incredible.
I don't know if it was an upsetor not, but it was very
exciting.
That was an upset.
Omar Najam (30:37):
That was an upset, I lost 50.
Sandeep Parikh (30:45):
Pax East is now closed.
They just announced it.
Oh boy, we did it.
We closed this place.
Down me and you, dude.
Yep.
Opening the closed?
Yeah, definitely.
Omar Najam (31:16):
Oh, what a good time we closed it out we closed it
out.
Sandeep Parikh (31:20):
Yeah, you know what I enjoyed?
I enjoyed that little.
I don't think we caught thatmoment on film, unfortunately,
because I didn't know they weregoing to do it, but they sort of
just announced, right, likethat's it, everybody, that's the
end of PAX East, and then, likeeverybody who was there kind of
applauded and applauded.
It was kind of a cool moment,like we all did it, we did it,
(31:41):
it was we talk about it whenwe're hanging out with KP, but
it was our first PAX Easts.
Omar Najam (31:47):
It was my first.
Sandeep Parikh (31:48):
Yeah, that's right, it was our first PAX.
I've been to PAXs, but that wasour first PAX East and it did
have like a different vibe.
It had an East Coast vibe, ithad a Dunkin's vibe.
Omar Najam (31:56):
Yeah.
You know A fucking.
Sandeep Parikh (32:03):
Dunkin' Donuts munchkin.
Yeah, my greatest shame is mylove of munchkins over glove
gentlemen.
Travis @ Dispel Dice (32:07):
I'm sorry everyone.
Sandeep Parikh (32:09):
My ancestors.
I'm sorry.
Omar Najam (32:11):
But we had such a good time and it truly was.
It feels different.
It's a convention that feelsdifferent and when, like you
said, when they closed it outand they said lights off, it was
just so much applause andcheering and everyone's like
we'll see you next year and it'sjust a great energy.
Sandeep Parikh (32:27):
Like I'm not like now I'm racking my brain
because I've been to so manyconventions.
I'm like do they do this atother conventions or is that
just specific to PAX East?
Because I guess maybe I don'tknow that I've ever closed a
convention out like that before.
Omar Najam (32:45):
Or maybe that's just like a PAX thing thing, I don't
know.
It just felt cool, it felt itwas all vibes.
It was usually.
For me it's like we're allracing around buying like dice
with like little ducks and stuffin them and they're just like
you have to leave, and then theyget like like a sprit water
spritzers and they're just goingaround just like just yeah
chasing us out like rats therats that we are right and that
exactly, they've got like afolded.
Sandeep Parikh (32:59):
What do you call it?
Omar Najam (33:00):
like newspapers, yeah get out of here, you animal
, go home go get out thanks forjoining us for it.
Sandeep Parikh (33:09):
As always.
If you are enjoying our show,we would love for you to support
us, like we have so manysupporters, you know.
So jump onto that bandwagon ifyou would.
It really helps us out over atpatreon.
That's patreoncom.
Slash f and funny.
E f, f, I and funny.
You can jump on at any tier.
There's all sorts of slasheffin' funny, e-f-f-i-n funny.
You can jump on at any tier.
There's all sorts of fun things.
I guess we should just quicklyshout out the people because we
(33:30):
should do that.
Yeah, that would be, great,that's our thing.
So I'm just going to rip it.
I'm going to rip it as anannouncement over the speakers
of PAX East.
All right, everybody, put yourhands together for Joshua Ryan,
tommy M, carlo, benjamin Lowe,brenda Hollinger, michael Logg,
raylan Fox, celine B, nervousRex, sarah H, dodeka, cotuplet,
(33:50):
varun, moldy Vort, philip Dyson,kathleen Schlegel, ducati,
reverend Coutinho, brandon Pace.
Brandon Pace, your car isdouble parked.
Monroe Maxwell, jeremy Schwartz, han Solso, 8bitd.
Why is she still on?
Is she still on here?
Okay, chris Sims, dan Wally,christina Romero, zach Danny's
Corner, fiche Legion247, jeremyO'Brien, astra and Brendan
(34:10):
Bradley.
And, of course, I will neverclose down for the gods.
Those are the god tier levelpeople.
James Gaffney, scribbles andFlapjacks, vaden and Death.
Queen Vex, you guys all rule.
Omar Najam (34:21):
Amazing.
Some fireworks at the end theretoo, if you listen very
carefully, that was prettyexciting.
Sandeep Parikh (34:26):
The show has been produced by Anand Shah and
Caitlin Mahoney.
The show's technical directorand sound designer is Delvin
Neville.
Now I'm in my head.
The show's executive producersare I know how to say this
Sandeep Parikh and Anand Shah.
Music by Harshal Sasodia,jasper Singh and Malik Saveri.
This has been an FNFunnyproduction Awesome.
Critical Bard (aka Omega (34:47):
Thanks so much everyone.
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