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January 27, 2025 12 mins
Celebrating "Forever Young" going #1 on the dance charts, the amazing Ava Max joined us for the first time on America's Dance 30!  She shared how the interpolation came together w her, David Guetta, & Alphaville, and if she got nervous tackling such an iconic tune.  She also shared w us what her fans can expect from your upcoming album!

We also got to know Ava Max better w #FinkysFirsts!!

Find out about:
  • if music was the first thing she wanted to get into when she was growing up
  • her first time performing on stage'
  • if 'Ava Max' was her first choice for an artist project name
  • the first time she heard one of her songs on the radio
  • the first dance song that made her fall in love w EDM
  • the first advice she would give to a younger Ava Max

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, a d thirty fam can't thank you enough for
listening to our artist chats every week here on America's
Dance thirty the podcast. Thank you so much for following
and subscribing. Of course, you can count down the biggest
dance songs on stations around the world. Just check America's
Dance thirty dot com for a full list of stations
and times. It's Brian Fink wanted to give you a

(00:20):
little bit of a warning before we start this week's
chat with Ava Max. Unfortunately she didn't have any earbuds
to put in, so every time I speak there's a
little bit of a bounce back in the audio from
Avamax's side.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Just wanted to give you the heads up before we start.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Without further Ado, Avamax, Ava Max, it is so incredible
seeing you again. Welcome to America's Dance thirty for the
first time.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Hey you dance counting down the biggest dance songs in
the country.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
This is America's Dance thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Congratulations on Forever Young with David Getta and Alphaville going
number one.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Wow, thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
I actually didn't know that was happening, so I'm just
really excited.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Well, I'm glad I could be the one to break
the news to you.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Now, this is your.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Second number one on the dance charts, right because the
Moto with Tiesto win number one as well, right, yes.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
Yes, I love the motto. I feel so blessed be
a part of that record as well. Yeah, tso is
awesome during that time, and when it went number one
also shocked because you never know, we put out this
music for the fans. When it goes like number one
is a big deal, you know. So it's just it
doesn't happen all the time. So I feel very grateful.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Well, congratulations on that as well. Can't wait to talk
about how Forever Young came together with you, David Geta
and Alphaville. But first let's get to know Ava Max
a little better with Thinkey's first Okay, So, I always

(02:11):
love finding out the origin story of artists. I know
that your parents are incredibly talented musicians as well, and
then you got into musical competitions at a young age, right, Yeah, So.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
When I was eight years old, I did my first
singing competition.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
I grew up in Virginia and so we went like
up and down east cause wherever there was Disney competitions,
there was Radio Disney competitions, there was other Talent Wrong
competitions in Florida.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
So my parents are driving me around and they're suburban.
I would sleep in the back while they.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
Were driving because it was longer, and then I'd go
perform and I you know, I'd win some of these,
so it was really fun.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
That's so incredible.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Now, was there anything else that you first wanted to
get into when you were growing up?

Speaker 2 (02:53):
What was music? Always it?

Speaker 3 (02:55):
Music was always it?

Speaker 4 (02:56):
I feel like, since I could open my mouth's talk,
I started saying.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Thinking back to those competitions that you were doing at
such a young age, do you remember the first time
performing on stage?

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Yes, I say, don't.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
Know Why by Norah Jones and I'm Fallen by Alicia
Keithes a capella.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Go for the Easy Ones. I see.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
I just loved soulful music.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
I sing a lot of R and B growing up,
pop R and B and soulful jazz, so like that
was all I knew growing up until the Britney Spears
album came out, you know, hit Me Baby More Time,
and then I fell in.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
Love with pop music.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
And were you nervous performing for the first time or
have you always been comfortable?

Speaker 3 (03:37):
I always tell my parents.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
This because this is so funny because they have video
of me just like really not caring and not be nervous,
and I tell them, as I got older, I got
more nervous because eight year old.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Me that footage which is still not out.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
Yet, Like you're gonna see when I fronted out like
it's I was not nervous.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
I did whatever on stage, like I didn't have any fear.
And I think as I got older, I've got a
little bit more fearful.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
When I got more like aware of everything my surroundings,
but I really didn't care.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Doesn't that suck that as we get older our anxiety
gets worse.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
I know.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
I'm like, I didn't have anxiety at eight, nine or ten,
and I just like didn't care.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
I did it for the love and it was easy.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
Now our brains are like, wait, people are staring and
they're judging, and it's everything that you.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Know you judge your Yeah, adulting is such a trap.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
It is. I would want to be a kid forever.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
No, absolutely, speaking of forever young. Now you've been Ava
Max since twenty two.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Right, twenty two exactly.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
But when you were thinking of an artist project name,
was Ava Max your first choice or with the other
names you were considering, I was going to be just Ava.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
You know.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
And I remember talking to friends of people I worked
with and they were just like, maybe you should add
a last name because you might get confused with other Avas, and.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
I'm like, okay.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
So they kind of convinced me to put the last name,
but I'm happy I did because Max is like my
masculine and ave us my feminine, because I feel like
I'm a little masculine and feminine, like all my friends say,
I'm like a dude, Like I'm really I offerate like
a dude. So it makes a lot of sense putting
mass into it.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Well, it's such an iconic name, so good choice. Thank
It was meant to do it definitely was. Now, as
I mentioned, you've had number ones on the dance charts,
but you've also had incredible success on the pop charts
as well. Do you remember the first time hearing one
of your songs on the radio?

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yes, it was I remember this.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
I was in a bus sprinter situation in Sweden.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
It was my first time in Europe ever. During Sweep
and Psycho going big there and.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
Having my first number one, and I had never been
to Europe, never been in a big sprinter bus, and
we were with everybody going to like the promo radio
station where I was going to perform acoustically on guitar
swuepod Psycho for the first time. So we were in
the car or in the sprinter and in Sweep and
Cycle comes on the radio. I just I don't know
if it was imposters in rum or something like. I
was like, this is not me, this is not me.

(06:03):
And I was kind of like in denial for like
a good week of being in Sweden doing Pramo that week,
and then I'm like, whoa, this is real. I'm on
the radio all over the world, and it just it
blew my mind because obviously you want it your whole life,
and then it happens, and it just.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
It doesn't feel real.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
That's so awesome. I mean it doesn't.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
I'm on the radio every day and it still doesn't
get old hearing myself on the radio.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
So I completely get it.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
As I mentioned, you had a number one with Tiesto,
You've now got a number one with David Getta. Do
you remember the first dance song that made you fall
in love with d m ooh A VICH.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
On alazaveld wake Me Up, Wake Me Up? A VICH
changed my life.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
That is so incredible to you here, and I forget
what artists I was talking to a couple of weeks
ago that it was the same thing. What's so incredible
about that is there was so much backlash with a
VICH when he first released it, and then it's become
one of the biggest, most iconic songs ever.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
I still get goosebumps even thinking about listening to that record.
It's such an emotional record and the dance aspect of it,
I mean, the two worlds coming together. It's so hard
to do that, and he just nailed it and now
it's just a classic.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Well finally, and think he's first in honor of forever
Young going number one. What would be your first advice
to give to a younger Avamax.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
You know, everyone's timing is different. I was always trying
to rush it. You can never rush it. And my
favorite quote now is the pair will follow when it's right.
So you just keep working and working towards your goals,
bettering yourself because We're always evolving, and you know, we're
never going to not evolve until the day we dies.
So I think, just know that there isn't an end.

(07:58):
It's always a journey. And I wish I knew that
when I was younger, because I would always drive myself crazy.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Same and you definitely went through it growing up.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
I mean, it's amazing that you were still doing it,
which thank you for sticking with it.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
It was hard because you know, you get a lot
of nose and obviously getting nose and shut down a lot.
You get down, but as long as you get back up,
no one remembers your losses.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
They remember your wins absolutely. Well, congratulations on this number one.
Let's talk about this incredible interpolation. How did it come
together with you, David Ghetta and Alpha pl Oh my goodness.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Okay, So friend of mine show me the record.

Speaker 4 (08:35):
He's a close friend of mine, and he was like,
we want you on the record, Like Ghetto wants to
me on the record, Alphabe, everybody wants to go the record.
So I start singing it and I started like messing
around with melody and lyrics in the studio and I
started just falling in love with the record, and within
an hour of working just one hour of working on it,
we shared it while I was fill in the studio

(08:56):
and Ghetto was just like, this is it, this is
what we're doing.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
And it went back to my friend and he told me, will.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
Get us set at the time, and I know get
it because we had a song together before super Psycho,
right before sul Psycho came out.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Let it be me, so I knew you know him
and he was a friend for a while.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
So when this record came to me, I was just
really excited to do another Getta record.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
And again, you never know how big records are going
to be.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
You just hear it and you're just like, I'm in
love with this, I want to share it with the fans,
and that's what we did.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Now.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Is it nerve wracking taking on such an iconic song
like Forever Young, oh one thousand.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
Percent, I'm like, wait, I need to sound extra good
on this.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Well, congratulations, you absolutely killed it on there.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Thank you, Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
By the way, I want to say thank you so
much for writing who's laughing now and bringing attention to
bullying because I know you were bullied in middle school.
I was horribly bullied in junior high and high school.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Honestly, it's amazing that I made it out alive.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
So yeah, same here. Middle school and high school were
horrible for me.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
I went in and out of different schools and high schools,
and I was the one who got expelled at the
time because I was standing up for myself in middle school.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
And I was just like, it's never fun.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
And I think, you know, it's interesting because this next
album That's Crazy touched on this.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
I was just speaking to somebody about my next album
just being about that and people who are being bullied.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
And it's for people who are being bullied all around
the world. And you could be bullied in your workplace,
you know, and anywhere, and it's not okay. And I
think we just have to tell people like it doesn't
matter what people say to you because you know who
you are.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
And I think that's the message.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
And that's so hard to get into our stupid little heads,
especially when we're kids.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
I was devastated. I was crying every day after school.
So it's it's a tough one.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
But just like you, I read that you were actually
somewhat happy that it happened looking back now.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Same for me.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
I mean looking back now, it made me who I
am now, So I'm so thankful that it happened.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Oh yeah, I make such stronger for sure.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Well, let's talk about the album and what can your
face expecting twenty twenty five.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
I'm so excited. I'm releasing now my first single. I
can't say the.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Name of it. I almost been but lyf as.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
I put it in my caption, and it's coming out
in February.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
I'm so excited.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
I was going to start the third album last year
and it almost happened, but I had a lot of
personal things happened as well in tandem, and I was
really like in a bad place last year that I'm
going to talk about on this album and in the future.
But I'm very excited I'm finally starting the third album.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Era awesome. Can't wait to hear the album. Well, I
got the amazing opportunity to see you perform. We had
you at jingle Ball in Town a few years ago
when you were incredible, So thank you so much for
your time with us on America's Dance thirty.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Thank you so much. I appreciate America's Dance.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Erny counting down the biggest dance songs in the country

Speaker 3 (11:56):
AM America's Dance thirty
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