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December 23, 2024 14 mins
Celebrating the success of "Never Been Yours", Oaks joined us for the first time on America's Dance 30, and shared how the song was born w Benny Benassi, and how long ago they started working on it. She also shared w us some of the big name producers she will be releasing music with next year!

We also got to know Oaks better w #FinkysFirsts!!

Find out about:
  • if music or horse acrobatics were the first things she wanted to get into when she was growing up
  • if 'Winona Oak' or 'Oaks' were her first choices for an artist project name
  • the first song she ever wrote
  • the first dance song that made her fall in love w EDM
  • the first person that believed in her singing

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, Oaks, how you doing.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
I'm good. I'm in Sweden and it's cold and raining,
but utter than that, I'm pretty good.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Well that's good to hear.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
Now before we start, do you want me calling you
Winona or Oaks or Johanna.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
I know it's a bit confusing. I think for this purpose,
it's good to be Oaks.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Oaks. It is such an honor finally meeting you.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Welcome to America's Dance thirty for the first time.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Thank you, such an honor counting down the biggest dance
songs in the country.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
This is America's Dance thirty.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Congratulations on the amazing success of Never Been Yours with
Benny Banasi.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Thank you. I mean yeah, I can't believe it myself.
I'm like, what this is free? Like yeah, but it's yeah.
I'm so happy, like so happy.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
It is such a smash.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
I saw that a lot of amazing writers were on
this song, so I can't wait to talk about how
it was born between you and Benny Bonasi. But since
this is the first time that you're on America's Dance thirty,
let's get to know Oaks a little better with Thinky's
first Okay, yeah, so I always love finding out the

(01:31):
origin story of artists. Did I see that when you
were younger you were into horse acrobatics?

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yeah? I did vaulting. When I was younger, I did
horse jumping and I had like five horses.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Wow, And do you still have any horses?

Speaker 2 (01:46):
My sister has horses, so yeah, I still I still
ride horses.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
So besides that, I also saw that when you were
younger you played violin and piano. But when you were
growing up, was horse acrobatics or music the first thing
you wanted to get into or was there something else
you wanted to be when you grew up.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
I wanted to be a writer when I grew up,
I wanted to write books. And I actually I wrote
a couple of books like crazy stories, and my teachers
would like call my parents and being like, you know,
as your child, okay because the stories were like so dramatic.
So yeah, I wanted to be a writer. And I

(02:28):
also wanted to like do music, but I didn't think
that that would be like possible. You know.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Well, I'm so glad that it actually did happen for you. Now.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
I was absolutely mind blown when I found out that
when Nona Oak isn't your real name?

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Oh my god, it is such a realistic name.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Not as a Swedish person. I don't think I would
know anyone in Sweden. But yeah, no, it's not my
real name, made up name.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
When you were deciding on an artist project name, was
Winona Oak or Oaks the first name you were going
to go with or were there other names you were considering?

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Well, I did have some really bad names to start with.
I'm not going to tell you the bad one. It
was like I tried everything. I was like, you know,
I really tried to find like a good artist name,
and I wanted something that you know, the people could find, like,
especially like coming from Sweden to the US. I was like, okay,

(03:34):
it needs to be something that's not too complicated and yeah,
and then I just my my last name in Swedish
is kind of oak, oak tree, so like oak, so
I wanted something with Oak, and then I just love
the name with Nona and I I yeah, that's how
it turned out. And then when I started my electronic

(03:56):
alte ego, I wanted people to still connect the project
to me, so I felt like I can just do
something with Oak against and that's how Oaks was born.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Yeah, I was kind of surprised when because I knew
you as Winona Oak and then Oaks, and I'm like,
when did that shift happen that you just went with Oaks.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Well, I wanted to start an entire project dedicated to
dance music because I love dance music and I love
writing dance music. And I felt like having like, you know,
as many features as I've been doing, like and still
doing my my Winona Oak project and doing like all

(04:38):
the electronic collapse on my on my like end the project,
I feel like it was a bit confusing, both for
me as an artist and like with algorithms and stuff.
So I wanted to dedicate an entire project to electronic music.
So that's how it was born.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Gotcha, Well, I love the name Oaks.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Well, speaking of dance music, I think one of the
most underrated dance songs of yours is Hope with the Chainsmokers.
Absolutely love that song. But do you remember the first
song you ever wrote?

Speaker 2 (05:12):
I do remember. It was called Horses Are My Best Friends.
I was like five years old.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
It was very dramatic and quiet. It it was it
had like free lyrics. It was like horses are my
best friend. Horses are my best friends, and like animals
are the but I was such I loved animals so much,
you know, so I feel like it was just about
my love for animals and horses.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
And yeah, now not necessarily that one.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
But if you're ever having like writer's block, do you
ever go back to old stuff that you wrote to
kind of revisit it, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
With shame sometimes, you know, and especially the songs that
I wrote when I was like nineteen, and I thought
they were so good, and then I listened back to
it and I'm like, h like, I feel so ashamed.
It's I don't know, it's like it took me a
while to now, you know, develop like my my songwriting

(06:15):
and like you know, when you're singing, you know, you
only get better at writing and singing, Like the more
you do it, the better you get at it. But
in the beginning, like I thought, I was, you know,
this is the sh But now when I listen back,
I'm like, this is not strong. Like some of the
lyrics are like I feel like ashamed.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
You know, well, if it makes you feel any better.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
Pretty much every songwriter that I talked to, that's their answer,
I mean you got to start somewhere, so it makes sense.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, yeah, totally, Like it's nice to see the development now.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Besides Benny Bonassi and the Chainsmokers, you've also worked with Telecast,
You've worked with Whatso Not, Robin Schultz, Rehab, Alan Walker,
Martin Garricks, and so many more. But do you remember
the first dance song that made you fall in love
with em?

Speaker 2 (07:07):
I mean, I've always loved dance music, like since I
was a kid. I think I really loved all kinds
of dance music, Like it was just I loved how
how it affected me. And I remember when I was
a teenager, I would listen to really like hard like

(07:30):
almost like techno, oh wow, And I loved Rakes up
so much and that's not hard to techno, but it
was like I really I fell in love with like
one of their albums that they did, you know, with
the San sand for and like Robin like such a
beautiful album, and it just just always loved dance music,

(07:51):
and I love I think even like the more like
the pop dance music that Robin has been doing, you know,
cry dance, Like it's so interesting how you can like
you can feel like the pain and you can turn
the pain into something that you want to want to
dance too. Like it's kind of like crazy.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
To me, it's poetic. Yeah, I love that about dance
music too. That's why I always love dance music with vocals.
It's gotta have vocals to it to keep me. Finally,
in Thinky's first, do you remember the first person that

(08:34):
believed in your singing?

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Probably my parents, but I don't know, Like I mean
I was. I think it was when I was like sixteen.
I had a crush on someone who was like very popular,
and I remember when I was singing that was the
first time he noticed me. So I guess that affected

(08:58):
me a lot.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
That's amazing, Like it.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Was such a long time ago, so it's like it's
fine to talk about now. But I was like, yeah,
I remember I performed and I was like, oh, people
actually like my voice. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
It's incredible looking back on those innocent times, isn't it.
I know, I remember finding when I moved out of
my parents' house. I remember finding a cassette. God, I
just dated myself of me singing too. I used to
get like vinyl that had the lyrics on the back
of it and it was a cassette of me singing

(09:32):
to that, and literally when I listened to it, I
broke into tears because it was like, where is that
innocence now?

Speaker 2 (09:41):
I know? No way, Yeah, we don't have that anymore.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
No we don't. Well, let's talk about happier stuff. This
huge song with you and Benny Bonassi. I saw that
Mo and Noony Bao actually helped write this song as well.
How was never yours born between you and Benny BONAZZI?

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, I mean so this song, this is like one
of the songs that I didn't write, and like I
never really jump on songs that I didn't write, So
I just heard this song and I was like, this
song is so beautiful and powerful, but both in terms
of the concept and the lyrics, and I just felt

(10:24):
like I need to be on this song because I
loved it so much. And then when Benny Bonacci didn't
production on it, I was like it all fell into place,
but it was Yeah, I just I feel like the
song is very powerful to me. It's like you know,
taking control of like a bad situation and being like,

(10:46):
you know, you think that I was yours, Like you
think that you broke me down, but like, you know,
I got this, you know, so it was really I
just love how it all turned out.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah, it really is a powerful song.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
As a singer songwriter, is it harder for you to,
I guess, get into a song when you're singing it
when it's not something that you've written.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
I mean, as long as I can identify with the lyrics,
like you know, if I feel the lyrics, I feel it,
and then it doesn't matter who wrote it. I'm just
happy and like grateful to be part of something. Then
maybe I couldn't write because maybe I wasn't in a
place where I could write lyrics like that. So for me, now,
as long as I feel the lyrics, I can sing it.
But if I don't feel it, then.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
No, gotcha. Now, how long ago did you guys start
working on it.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
It was a while ago. I think the song was like,
you know, it was one of those songs that was
like maybe not gonna happen, and then it just like
kind of you know, forgot about it, and then I
was like, oh, it's actually happening, And I was so
happy because I loved the production and I love like
where he took it in terms of the production, and

(11:55):
I was like, oh, this is lovely, and I was
really happy that I came out. There are so many
songs that you write and you know, just put it
on the shelf and you never know if it's going
to happen or not, and then when it actually happens,
it's Sasha, It's the best feeling in the world.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
I remember chatting with Nina Nesbit and her telling me
that she had songs in her a hard drive for
like five years that she never even put out.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Is that the way it is with you as well?

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Definitely? Definitely, Like I have so many songs, and sometimes
I even forget about songs that I actually really love,
like songs that I listen back to now and I'm like, oh,
this is actually like a good song, Like why didn't
I do anything with this? But that's also so nice
with them Oaks project that I can find homes for

(12:42):
songs that maybe like I can't find homes for in
my with my indie project, like with my Winona project,
but I can find a home with the DJ and
they can turn it into magic.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Well, I'll be honest with you, I hope we hear
a lot more of those songs that haven't been released
yet you will.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
You will definitely hear a.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Lot congratulations on the incredible success of Never Been Yours.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
What's next for Oaks?

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Well, I have a song coming out with Noted and
super exciting and with Legend test.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Yes, so super super exciting, fun story. I was gonna
perform the song with Tiesto during a d in Amsterdam,
but I got food poisoned.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah, it was like the worst FOMO of my life.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
What's even worse about that is this year was my
first time in Amsterdam for AD, so I totally could
have met you, but I was like, where is she?

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah. I did do some really really fun performances with
Nicky Romeo and and with Mike Williams and that was,
you know, incredible, and it was such a fun experience.
But I was so excited to perform with you, so
to finally meet him, because he seems like such a
nice guy.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Oh you guys have never met before.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
No, we haven't, so but next year for sure.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
Well, twenty twenty five is definitely going to be the
year of Oaks and I am totally here for it. Yes, Oaks,
it is so awesome finally meeting you. Thank you so
much for your time with us on America's Dance thirty.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Thank you also meeting you as well. America's Dance thirty
counting down the biggest dance songs in the country AM
America's Dance thirty
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