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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now domb before we even start.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I got to share something with you because I felt
so seen by something that you posted. I too, planned
on posting something on the twenty first night of September
and totally forgot what kind of content creators are we dumb?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Now? You know what's worse.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
I listened to that song like once a fortnight. It's
like one of my favorite records ever. And I remember
when it was like the first of September or the
second of September.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I was like, oh, it's nearly the twenty first is
going to be a vibe. And then I noticed it
was a Saturday. I was like, this is going to
be sick.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
And it was a show in Vegas that I had
on that night as well, so that this is perfect.
And I just had a busy week, like a busy
week working studio, and I completely forgot and I got
off stage and I went I.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Really beat myself up about that.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Now everyone's messaging me saying, you have to do a remix,
you have to like make up for it next year,
But I don't know.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I'm a bit heartbroken. Like you see the same.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I was thinking of posting something on Sunday and just
like saying screw it and just acting like it was
the twenty first The.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Narrative in the comments of the post that I made
with both basically saying the lyrics, how do you remember
the twenty first nine of September?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
So you can talk about it basically anytime after that.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
And it's ironic that we actually didn't remember well.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Dom Dalla, welcome back to America's Dance thirty.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
It's great seeing you.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Good to say Brian Dance counting down the biggest dance
songs in the country.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
This is America's Dance thirty.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I can't believe that it's been over a year since
we've chatted. Congratulations on the massive show that you guys
had at the Gorge that looked amazing.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Thank you man.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Yeah, it's been honestly, been such an incredible writer of
the last twelve months, so kind of pinching myself at
the venues that we're playing and I don't know, it's
kind of a bit of a dream come true, to
be honest.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
So it's incredible.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
So what made you and John Summit combine? Superpowers for everything?
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Always, I think we're both similar age and have very
similar tastes. Certainly in records, and I think we relate
to each other a lot, just in terms of the
industry generally has like an older a lot of DJs
of maybe ten to fifteen years older than he and I,
and we both sort of had our rise at the
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same time, and it just sort of made sense. There's
a lot of audience overlapp with people that listened to
us as well, So we just had a lot of
We're having a lot of the same experiences at the
same time, dealing with a lot of the same issues,
really loving and performing a lot of the similar a
lot of similar shows. We just sort of came together
that way. So yeah, it's been pretty authentic, which is nice.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Well, congratulations on all that, and congratulations on Girls going
number one.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
That is so amazing.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Thank you man. I'm so stoked about that.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
That song was like a song idea that I cooked
up years ago and I wasn't sure what to do
with and only found like the right sort of sonics
and production direction.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Late end of last year. I think it was. So
I'm just stoked that.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
You know, there are records that you can have on
the back burner, or records that you're excited about.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
That always get to see the light of day if
they're good enough.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
So well, I can't I can't wait to talk about
how this song was born. But first, let's get to
know dom Dalla a little better. Last time we got
to know you when I was chatting with you in
MK with Thinky's first. Now, let's find out some of
dom Dolla's favorites.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
With Thinky's favorites, I'll do my best.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
So, what is dom Dalla's favorite thing to do when
you're not playing shows around the world?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Sleeping? Hands down, sleeping.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Yeah, the show's the different time zones and all the
random both terrible and wonderful hotel beds. Is nothing better
than coming home to my own bed and just absolutely
crashing out.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
It's nice.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
I couldn't agree with you more.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Now, do you have a favorite fan experience that you've
had happen.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
It's a very good question. They're sort of they get
beaten every weekend. I think often people making me things
is quite nice. Well, one thing I really actually, one
thing I've really enjoyed recently is I'm a big, big
fan of tattoos, and a lot of my covers of
my EPs and singles have basically tattooed designs, and people
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that share my taste will then go and get those
tattooed on them.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
The massive commitment really props to them because it's something
that I could never bring myself to do. But I
don't know, It's made me really take the design seriously.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Because you never know what somebody's going to put on
their body forever.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Exactly exactly. Friend of mine, friend of mine, Harley. He
does the designs and he's an incredible tattoo artist. It's
just really really cool to see them come to life
and in their true form.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
On people, which is really really cool.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
And I remember you telling me didn't he design the
rhyme Doest cover as well?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Right?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
He did? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yeah, I remember you.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I don't remember people's names five minutes after I meet them,
but I remember you telling me that for some.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Reason, Yeah he did. He did eat your man as well.
He also he did saving up. He's on I forgot,
I've lost count. He's done definitely the last few and
he's absolutely smashed them.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yeah, he does a great job.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Now, besides your homeland of Australia, where is your favorite
place to visit?
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Honestly, I've been touring for so long that I feel
like I've got friends in every pocket of the world. Yeah,
Melbourne obviously my hometown, LA where I live now, I
love it. Probably London when the weather's good, but it's
a bit few and far between. I know I'm the
palest man on planet Earth, but I'm starting for in
love with a befa honestly, or a beza as.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
You guys, I say your befa.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Now, I don't think there's a wrong answer, but yeah,
I'm starting to love it there.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I'm just wearing seventy plus everywhere I go.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
So smart.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yeah, really enjoying it.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Very smart. Now, do you have a favorite producer at
the moment?
Speaker 4 (05:58):
It's a very good question. Let me answer that by
going into my record box.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
It's so funny when people ask questions like that. Even
when people ask me, like, what's my favorite song of
the moment, I'm like, oh, man, let me look at
my playlist.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Really cool.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
It's hard to because, like, it depends on the context
as well. There's like listening producers. There's like producers of
like records who I love to play listening.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
What's your favorite listening producer at the moment?
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Oh, It's not new by any means, but definitely Caribou
for sure.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Good choice.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Yeah, feel good dance music.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
I think I remember I saw him perform in Melbourne
a few years ago and it was like the at
the sort of like pinnacle of the set, the clouds part.
It was raining for like the majority of the set, Wow,
and then the pinnacle sort of euphoric moment. It was
full of super fans as well, because like the crowd
was packed and at the pinnacle moment, the clouds parted
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and the sun came shining down like right on the
stage and everyone was just losing their minds.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
It's incredible. We're what rain does to a show. I
saw Above and Beyond in absolutely torrential downpour, but it
just made it so much more amazing because the feeling
is just, oh, it was just euphoric.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
You've got to commit, You really find yourself like, yeah,
committed to the experience, and it's not yeah, you're not
one leg in, one leg out trying to figure out
you know what you're going to do after you know.
It's almost as if it's people know that it's going
to be the pinnacle of their night because they've got
no choice but to go home and dry off afterwards.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yeah, it makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Now, finally, in Finky's favorites, what's dom Dalla's favorite non EDM.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Song right now?
Speaker 4 (07:38):
My favorite non dance music record is is.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Probably Mariella by krankbn I reckon.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I'll have to check it out. Doesn't sound familiar.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Yeah, it's like they're like a Texan sort of jam
band and they're huge at the moment. They're like headlining
and all sorts of festivals across the US. They played
a pretty serious set time at Coachella last year as well.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
But yeah, really feel good, feel good jam music.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Another feel good song. Let's talk about this smash Girls.
You mentioned there was you know, a long time in
the works. How was this song born?
Speaker 3 (08:20):
A song was born?
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I was having a few conversations with some with some
girlfriends of mine at an after party, and all of
them were just complaining to each other about the bad
dates they've been on recently, and every story was really
consistent with one another, and I just thought to myself.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
I was sitting there thinking that this is too good.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
This is just like if this is a much as
much of a relatable experience for each of them. I
can't imagine how wide the relatability factor of this concept
would be for everyone else. And I really empathized and
decided it would be a great thing to write a
record about. So I just went around listening to their stories,
and it was actually it closed out. I spoke to
another friend of mine, she dates girls, and she was
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at a at a club and she noticed there were
this guy was like being incredibly rude to his girlfriend,
and she basically went over and stole her from him.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
And that's like the second part of the story. If
you listened to closely to the lyrics of there's someone
telling a perspective from their perspective, that's from her perspective,
it was too good not to include. And then I
just felt like it needed to be a rave record,
like that story was being told from the perspective inside
a nightclub, and I was like, well, the sonics of
that have to replicate, you know, the mood of the story.
So yeah, I'm just glad it's resonated with everyone. I
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can't believe how many people have been playing that record
and all the remixes.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
I've never had a song of mine bootlegged so much.
That leg remixes popping up on SoundCloud.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
It's just it's just nuts.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
So I hear a new one every other day, and
I'm like, wow, I didn't know think you know, I didn't.
I never thought about putting it that way.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
So and you hearing bootlegs.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
No, I think it's great.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
I think honestly, like especially now in the era of
like AI Stem separation, even if you hated it, there's
nothing you can do about it anyway, so you might
as well just sort of lean into it. But yeah,
the hook remains the same. The hook is just being
transferred onto different different genres of dance, whether it's you know,
trum and bass or trance or you know, even dubstep.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Yeah, it's wild the places I've heard it, It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
How long ago did you start working on it? How
long ago did the story start happening?
Speaker 4 (10:24):
I started I think that night at the after party
listening to these stories was would have been three or
four years ago. And then I wrote wrote, wrote it
down in my notes on my phone, and then didn't
start spitballing lyrical ideas until maybe two years ago, and
then just sat on it. I had it a voice memo,
my voice coming up with the hook, and then I
produced the instrumental underneath my voice, and I was like,
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I need to have a girl performing this. So a
friend of mine, Caitlyn Stubbs, who I wrote saving up with,
Actually she's got an incredible voice, whether it's speaking or singing,
and I said, hey, can you reperform these lyrics? And
she's like, done, me back over a version. We have
to and frot on a little bit and like back
and forth evison feedback at ll maybe performing a bit
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more this way or that way, and she absolutely nailed it.
So that's her voice first, and then it's my weird
robotic voice second, and then it's the lead instrumental lead
after that.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
And then is that you at the beginning as well, going.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Hey, yeah, that was a little voice that was like
a little uh.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I can't remember when that was. I think I was
in like somewhere and I can't remember what festival was
playing at. Yeah, that is definitely me.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
It was from like an Instagram story or something, and
I needed something to tie it back to my world
and I was like, oh.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Wh I feel like people will probably recognize my voice.
So through at the beginning of the record.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
And again it just adds a fun aspect to it
right at the beginning of the song. Now, something I
love to find out about songs that we've talked about
in the past is how many different vis there are
from when you start working on it, all the tweaking
that goes on when you finally master it and put
it out.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Do you remember what the final V was of Girls?
Speaker 3 (11:58):
It's not that many this one. I think it's like
V four or V five.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Oh, that's not a bad at all.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Some Yeah, you're totally right, there's like V one hundred
and twenty five on something like Yeah, it's nuts. And
also on Ableton, I'll often call them their's final and
then there's final Final, and there's final Final, Final, Final Final.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
I'm the same way with these videos. It's so annoying.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Well, congratulations on Girls going number one.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
That is so awesome. What is next for dom Dalla?
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I'm incredibly blessed say my next single is with the
incredible Toblo or tu Valu, depending on where in the
world you're from.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
And I've been good friends for a while now and
planning on been planning on getting the studio for years
and we finally did it would have been maybe like
nine months ago, and the first record we finished was this,
So it's a drum and based record. I mean, I
was started touring in New Zealand, would have been in
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like twenty fourteen, and obviously it's a short flight from
my hometown of Melbourne, but I remember arriving there and
it was the first and probably only place I heard
used to hear drum and bass played out for years
and years and years there was you'd hear it in
Auckland and christ Church, dun Eden, and then outside of
New Zealand, you'd hear it in like Perth, Western Australia,
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and you'd hear it in London.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
You wouldn't hear it anywhere else.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
And anytime I used to play in those cities she
used to be I was sort of so inspired by it.
I thought, I'm definitely going to write some sort of
like melodic, liquid drum and based track one day. But
I decided to start closing my sets with drum and
base in the US probably back in twenty eighteen, and honestly,
no one got it back.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Then, like people were like, what the hell is this week?
Speaker 4 (13:44):
And so I decided to like shift it towards the
end of my set, and I used to use it
as sort of like euphoric ending because I felt like
people often would want to hear really slow, you know,
closing time type sort of records at the end of
a s and I was like, nah, we've got to
end this on like the biggest high ever.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
So I finished playing. Back then, it was when I
was playing like.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
One twenty two to one twenty six bpm house music
and I'd ended on one seventy five bpm, and.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
People were like, WHOA on a big high.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
But now the zeitgeist of music trends has just magically
meant that Drummond bass is in and I was like,
this is just too perfect of an opportunity not to
sort of blend my love of like melodic liquid DNB
and then sort of like harder, faster stuff. And Yeah,
sat in the studio with Tove and she was like,
let's do it. She's like, I trust you, Let's go
for it. And it was the first record we finished,
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which is so exciting because I can't if this is
the first record we've completed together, I can't imagine, you know,
what else the future has in saw for us.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
So I just really hope you guys like it as
much as we do.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Oh, I'm sure we will. Well. Two things.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
First of all, we had drum and bass here, but
it was always underground, and I remember I used to
love it until a friend of mine played it while
I was on the dance floor and I was like,
I have no idea what to do right now.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
You just don't know how to move to it.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
And secondly, when I chatted with Tovlow, she said she's
totally cool with people saying tove Low.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
She said that to me as well.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
But every time I've and obviously you know her and
I've been friends for years and years and years, She's
never said anything.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
And then I've used to find I was getting attacked
on the internet.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
I'd be like, oh, Tovlow, and then her super fans would.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Be like it's Toolu and I'm like, oh, So. I
actually had to have a word with her.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
We're in the UK recently, and I was like, so
what am I and She's like, you've been saying it, fine,
It's just say it how it works for you.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
And I was like, okay, but those super fans though.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
They'll get you.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
But yeah, I think I honestly started seeing the tipping
point for Drummon Base. Probably it was just pre COVID.
I think it was like would have been beginning of
twenty twenty. I was closing my sets with it, and
the audience were really getting into it as like it
and I was like, Okay, we're onto something here. But
then post COVID, coming back here, everything was faster, not
just not just music, not just those specific genres, but
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like you know, house and techno. It's like not unheard
of for things to be one thirty two, one thirty five,
one forty. So I don't know where it's gonna end.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
This is gonna get faster and faster and faster and faster,
and who was going to explode?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Or I think it's going to get slower again and
go back towards that jack you sound to kind of reset.
That's where it might go. Well, congratulations on everything. It
is so great catching up with you. Dom Dalla, thank
you so much for your time with us on America's
Dance thirty.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Likewise, Brian, thank you so much. Man appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
America's Dance thirty counting down the biggest dance songs in
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Speaker 4 (16:34):
Am America's Dance thirty