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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ellie, I want you to be one hundred with me.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Is it exhausting being as amazing as you are for
as long as you have been?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
It is thus the eyebags and the haggard face. Yeah,
it's been so long. Now just keeps on happening and
it's kidding. That's pretty sweet me to.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Say, though, Well, it makes my heart so happy to
see you again. We're gonna be chatting all about Save
my Love coming up. We're going to get to know
Ellie Golding a little better with Thinkey's favorites. Ask you
a question that you have possibly never been asked before.
The amazing Ellie Golding. Welcome back to America's Dance thirty.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Thank you so much. It's been it's been a while.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
Dear, counting down the biggest dance songs in the country.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
This is America's Dance thirty.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I think it's been almost three years. How have you been.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I'm like genuinely nervous because I haven't done an interview,
like when you were When you asked for an interview,
I was like absolutely, but I literally have not done
any interviews. So I'm like constructing sentences is like quite
hard at the moment. Because I've just been such a
recluse recording my album that this is like, this.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Is I don't know, nerve wracking for some reason.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Well, I'm glad you're nervous as well, because I'm always
nervous chatting with you, because you are so amazing. Congratulations
on the incredible success of Save My Love with Marshmallow
and of Ion and it going number one.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I know that made me so happy because you know,
like all songs that I get involved in and write
and like, and I just I hope for the best
usually and I never it's never like a guaranteed thing
that the you know, the song is gonna I don't know,
be some kind of commercial thing, and I just do
things I love and regardless of where it's going to
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end up. And so I'm really happy that this little
thing did what it did because I've known Marshmallow for
a long long time and when we started writing this song,
you know, just that I wrote it with some friends,
we had mutual friends writers in common, and we wrote
it in London, and it's just a great song. This
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is a beautiful love song and we need more of
those at the moment, you know. So I'm really happy
that people enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, absolutely, and I can't wait to talk about how
I was born. But you know, you have one of
the most incredible voices on the planet, and you sound
amazing on every song you do. But the striped down
version of Save My Love that you posted, my God,
that was amazing.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Oh thank you.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
That's another thing I posted with like my hair, girl
was like girl, you know, like.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
My hellok bad, and like I was wearing like my.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Pajamas as usual in the studio, and like I just
was like I had a moment and was like I
just want to I want to show this song for
what it really is. And like I said, when you
can break a song down to just a piano, my
friend Max Coke did the piano arrangement for me and
it still sounded pretty, you know, and it's like it
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has a meaning behind it, and so yeah, it's always
a good someone you can break it down tuned down
to that and it still sounds sounds good.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Absolutely, well, it sounds more than good. And we're gonna
be talking about it coming up. But first let's get
to know Ellie Golding a little better again with Thinky's Favorites.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Okay, I'm scared.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
There's nothing to be scared about.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Not that you're going to remember this, but I think
I told you last time we chatted how amazing anything
could happen is for me.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
You know.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I actually when I did a half marathon, I scheduled
it almost every hour or so so I would hear
it during the run and it would help me get
through it.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
You know, like you'ves on having. But yeah, yeah, you
look like a runner.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Well I appreciate that. You know.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I'm sure you get told by fans a lot how
much you know your music means to them. But do
you have a favorite fan moment that you've experienced, Like
fan moment, Yeah, like a like meeting a fan or
maybe at a show or something.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Oh my gosh, all the time, I'm such a nerd,
Like there are so many musicians and singers like I
remember meeting. This is pretty unexpected for people. But when
I was young, when I heard Pearl Jam for the
first time in my life, it was like a For
some people, maybe it was Nirvana or Soundgarden or one
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of those bands.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
But when I heard pel Jam, it like spoke to
me in some way. Had like Eddie Vedder.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
And so so the probably the first time I met him,
which I don't think people would expect to be my
my fan girl moment, but like I like couldn't hold
it together because you know, he was between like here,
like I had such a I had such an eclectic
taste when I was young. So I went from like
Pearl Jam to like Lauren Hill, to Byork to Joni Mitchell,
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and I did.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
I met Byork, but but I didn't.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
I was too nervous to actually go and say hi
to her, so I didn't. So I mean, I don't
know whether you're supposed to meet your idols or not,
but like that was a memoir.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
I was like, maybe it was not meant to be
at that time.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
But so when I met Eddie, I thought that, you know,
that's when I realized that I had I'd really come
a long way from playing songs in my bedroom, you know,
and and I was listening to I wore out my
pel Jam CDs beyond and so to meet him at
a festival and and him be like, oh, I'm a
fan and like coming to watch me play and stuff, I.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Was, I was, you know, you can't like.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Compute moments like that properly. I still haven't, I don't think.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
And it's so weird when it's happening. It's like an
out of body experience.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Yeah, that happens to me all the time, you know.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
I think I'm probably not much different to when you
last spoke to me. When I go away, I'm literally
just I'm in the studio writing music. I feel like,
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Like I tend to just.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Still keep myself in the in the mindset of when
I first started out, and so everything's a blessing. So
when I when I get an email saying, oh, this
person wants to work with you or this person wants
to do a song with you, I'm like, I still
don't believe it, you know, I still think it's really
I think it's a mistake, you know, truly.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I love that. I love hearing that you're so grounded.
That is so amazing.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
I don't want to do this song. I was like, me,
it's a thing, it's true, And he would say that
as well.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
I know.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I just I think everything that I get to do
is a real blessing, you know, and I'm lucky.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Well, in prep for this chat, I went back and
watched a ton of performances that you did if anything
could happen, and you always seem to be having so
much fun when you're singing that song on stage. But
what is your favorite song to sing while you're performing?
Speaker 4 (07:34):
I think you kind of nailed it with that one.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
That song was kind of came around after a really
tough breakup.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Like when I was maybe twenty two or twenty three,
and I didn't know anything then.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
I was still so young, and so breakups were just
that bit.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
More devastating, and so I wrote that song.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
I realized there was a way of writing a breakup
song that wasn't a sad song, and there was a
way of of it, of making it into this kind
of moment of like I don't know, a revelation of
discovering something new or letting it make way for something.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Better, or just this rediscovery.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
And so I realized that I could make this genre
of music that, like you said, like on on a
run or when you need those moments to pick you
up and.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
To take you out of bad, bad places. I realized
I could make that kind of music.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
And I just thought that when you were sad, you
just wallowed in sad music, like I.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Used to like.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Wallow in Bonivert and like I don't know classical music,
and and so that one I love to perform because
I really feel sort of like a moment of people
coming together when I sing. That feels very like a
very positive kind of atmosphere. And I don't know, I
like to dance around, So I love I love performing Miracle,
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the song I have with Kvin Harris, because it just
it just makes me go completely feral. And I think
my fans like to see that stage is the one
place that I'm like my most feral, unleashed psycho bitch.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
So I think they appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I love that description. That's hilarious.
Speaker 6 (09:15):
Now anywhere else anything else, I am so shy and
so awkward that like, honestly, when people see me on
stage for the first time that have known me in
my personal life, I have never seen me beform like
like I can't talk, you know, because they're like, what
the hell was that?
Speaker 4 (09:35):
It's just the place I want to be, you know,
that's my place on stage.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
No, I totally get it because I'm an ambervert too,
which is, you know, a really big introvert. But then
when we have to we turn it on and on
the exact same way. When I'm on the radio, I'm
like hyped up, and then when I'm normal, I'm just
sitting on the couch with my cat, like leave me alone.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
So radio for that, you know, you get to like
do what you love and you love me. You're passionate
about music, and you get to like show your personality,
like show your passion for.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
That, and then you can just go away and like
be home with your cat.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Now you just started trending again on socials for a
song that you did like six years ago, which is
so crazy. Do you have a favorite Ellie Golden era
that you want fans to revisit?
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Ah, good question. I mean my initial, my first era.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
When I released Likes, my first album, there was this
kind of recklessness that was.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Really like really.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
It was kind of like an innocent kind of recklessness
where you could just you could release songs and not
care what happened to them, and generally they because I
was a new artist and everyone found my music exciting
and new, and so it was just such a nice
kind of era of not care, you know, not overthinking,
not caring, not being anxious about releasing music.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
You could just you could just kind of do what
you wanted.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
And actually, I feel like it's been full circle where
you can now do that because you know, you can
put a song that you could do a snippet of
a song on TikTok for example, and you might get
a reaction, or you might just or it might just
capture a moment in time, and like it feels like
the same a similar kind of freedom, just in a
completely different way.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
I love the fact that my songs are being like
revisited because it just makes you realize that song, some
songs are just timeless, and it's kind of like a
real reflection of that, you know, in real time. Like
things like TikTok can bring these amazing songs like Bob
Dylan song or a Fleetwood Max song or a Kate
Bush song back, and that's beautiful, you know. And I
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love that they're just like sort of being reimagined and
being put into this new world, but they're still being appreciated.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
It's just great songs. So I like that. I'm a
fan of that.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Now you mentioning that is it weird as an artist
for a song that you did so long ago?
Speaker 1 (12:05):
To all of a sudden be everywhere again.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
No, I mean I love it when it happens to
the songs that were like, I don't know, maybe underrated
or not given.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
You know, sometimes I feel like this is a tailor
as old as time.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Wer An artist release releases a song that they are
so in love with and they're like, this is my song,
this is my song.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
They release it, and it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Get the reaction that you expected, or it doesn't people
don't can't relate to it the same way that you
thought they would or have an affinity for it. And
then suddenly like because it gets captured in this kind
of moment, whether like a cultural moment like in time,
where suddenly the song makes sense again. And yeah, I
mean it's it's cool because you can just you kind
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of just never know what's going to have and when
a song is going to come back around.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
I think it can be look, it.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Can have positives and negatives, especially for new artists, but
I don't know, I think it's it's fun to see
a song that come back because yeah, I mean, I
love working with the Projuice world, and I always.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Thought that song was good, So I'm glad it's like
come back around now.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Finally in Finky's Favorites, What is your favorite thing about yourself?
Speaker 4 (13:14):
My favorite thing about myself, like in general.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
In general, I mean not.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
To be like serious or anything, but I.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Think my favorite thing about myself is I treat everybody
with kindness. And everybody I work with, every musician, every right,
every producer, I treat them as equal, which everyone should.
And these people, you know, these writers work so hard
and these producers work so hard. Can I swear, I'm sorry,
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I didn't.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Even ask you could do whatever you'd.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Like, but they work so hard, and they are they
are the most important people behind these songs and behind
these huge creations, all this creative stuff, behind artists, and
so you know, I think I really believe, like the
reason I'm still around is because I've just always treated
people with kindness and as I would want to be
treated myself. And so I like that about myself. And
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I've never changed. I've always been the same. And I think,
you know, my friends and the people I work with
can vouch for that. And and I'm glad that's that's
stuck with me.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
No, I love hearing that. And like I said, I
don't know what you wanted.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
That was absolutely and like I said, it makes my
heart so happy to see you and chat with you
again because you've got such an amazing aura about you.
So I totally understand and I love that. Let's talk
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about this smash. How was Save my Love born? With
Marshmallow and a Ion.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Ion and oh god Riley and Connor and Jade Tory.
It was in London. We were just metting around and
you know what, I'm surprised it was born because these
boys they make me laugh so much. And I had
such a bad cold. I was really struggling. I think
I had that for some reason. I felt like I
had like a COVID that went like on and on
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and on, and it would like come back and go away.
And so I remember just being like brutally ill and coughing,
and everyone in the studio being just sort of staying
away from me. And it was funny like Matt Bellamy
from mus was in the next room recording something which
I then.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Got involved in.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
So I never thought I'd end up I could say
I have a song with Matt Bellamy from music.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
But now I can say that, I guess. And then
and then anyway.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
We're in this room and and I think the track
was already kind of there, and then we just do
you know what, I'm going to be honest, I can't
even remember how it's started, but you know, it's like
the course is maybe just me messing around after a
few drinks and just coming up with those same love
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by you, those kind of things, and just I don't know,
I really don't know.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
I'm just gonna be honest. I'm like, I can't.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Think of the exact moment the song was born, but
it was with those guys, Marshmallow, We're all in the
room and having a few drinks, just having fun and
not caring if something was bad, and like trialing and
erroring and the best way to make a song.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
So absolutely, yeah, that's usually how the best songs come about.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Now, how long ago did you guys start working on it?
Do you remember?
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Okay, do you remember that? It was? Like? Do I
remember that?
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Maybe I should have prepped you before this chat?
Speaker 4 (16:34):
It was I know, Oh my god, I should know
this stuff. I think it was the end of last year,
but I can't be sure. Oh my gosh, Marshmallow is
going to kill me.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Hold on, I got.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
I'm so unprepared. I hope this chat has been enjoyable.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Despite me up until this point.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Now I'm sorry everybody.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
I'm just glad you liked the song, regardless of how
it was made.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Congratulations on it. It is such a smash. Congratulations on
it going number one.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Thank you, Thank you so much. It makes me so happy.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
And you know I love making dance records. As you know,
I've been making it for so long. I grew up
listening to dance music and it really is in my blood.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
And but it's.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
I'm going to be having it not a break, but
like I'm always, I'm always collaborating with producers and people
in the dance world, but my album is not that.
Maybe it's good that I have the two things going on.
But interestingly that the person I'm working with for my
first single also worked with me on Anything It Happened,
So maybe the era is coming back, the Healcyon era,
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And I know my fans love that era and that album,
so I think it's.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
All meant to be.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
That's awesome. I can't wait to hear it.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Well.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Before I let you go, I asked chat ept to
give me a question that Ellie Goulding has never been
asked before, so I got to test this out.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
All right, bloody surprised on a.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Well, it's funny when I put that in, it's like, well,
she's been asked a lot of questions, so this is
gonna be tough.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
It scares me so much, but yeah, go on. What's
the question?
Speaker 2 (18:11):
If today was your last performance ever, what song would
be your last song to perform so people remember you?
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Oh my god, that's depressing.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
It's chat gibt.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
It's not me, that's my son.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
You want to give him a choice?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Oh, he loves Okay, I do this for him. He
loves missm He calls it miss Ma. It's I need
your love. He goes, mommy, miss mass, miss Ma, I'm
miss Ma.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Where did you get that from? I don't know, but
he loves that song. So that would that would be
a perfect song song from my son.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
That would be the perfect song to be the last one. Yes, absolutely,
Ellie Golding. It is always so awesome seeing you. Congratulations
on everything. Thank you so much for your time with
us on America's Dance thirty.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Thank you for having me, and thank you so much
for all your support as well. Over the years.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
America's Dance thirty counting down the biggest dance songs in
the country.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
America's Dance thirty