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July 27, 2025 17 mins
Celebrating the incredible success of her song "Edge Of The World" w Meduza, Innellea, & Genesi, Nu-La joins us for the first time on America's Dance 30!  She shares how the song was born, how long ago they started working on it, and who the demo was originally for!!

She also answers a question she has never been asked before, and we get to know Nu-La better w #FinkysFirsts!

Find out about:
  • if music was the first thing she wanted to get into growing up
  • if 'Nu-La' was her first choice for an artist project name, and where the name came from
  • the first thing she normally does when writing a song
  • the first EDM show she went
  • the first place she would go if she could go anywhere to the edge of the world

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Nula, it is great finally meeting you.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
We've got a lot to chat about, but my most
important question for you is where did you come from?

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Because I blinked and.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
All of a sudden, we've got three Nula songs on
the radio currently.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Ah, I know, it's pretty cool. I don't know, man,
I feel like it's just all I'm having a moment
at the minute.

Speaker 4 (00:24):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
I started doing more of the kind of dance features
and stuff like that the past couple of years, and
I think just I don't know. I think I've just
kind of like I'm on a bit of a roll
and it's just still happening all at once. So that's
what it is.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
You know, it's definitely a good problem to have. Now
we're gonna be chatting all about Edge of the World
coming up. We're gonna be chatting about Flames, your new
song with already coming up.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
We're also going to get to.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Know Nula a little better and ask you a question
that you have possibly never been asked before. Nula, Welcome
to America's Dance thirty for the first time.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
Oh thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Dance.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Counting down the biggest dance songs in the country, this
is America's Dance thirty.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
I probably should have asked first, am I pronouncing Nula correctly?

Speaker 4 (01:25):
Yes, that's right, yeah, yeah, yeah, perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Congratulations on the incredible success of Edge of the World
with Medusa and Nelia and GENESEI.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
Thank you, appreciate it, very happy.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
I bet I can't wait to talk about how this
song was born with all of you guys. But first,
since this is your first time on America's Dan's thirty,
let's get to know Nula a little better with Finkey's first.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
I love finding out the origin story of artists.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
When you were growing up, what music the first thing
that you wanted to get into or was there something
else you wanted to be when you grew up?

Speaker 4 (02:05):
Yes, no, it's always been music.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
I started singing when I was like four or five.
My mom said the moment that she realized I could sing,
it was in the Schoolnativity play, you know you like playing.
I played like the angel Gabrielle, and I was like
walking down the aisle in between like the audience, and
it was my first solo.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
My mom was like, how what, I don't know if
she could sing? And it was like that.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
That was the moment, and I think, you know, when
you're a kid and you're good at something and people
give you praise for it, you kind of, you know,
you follow with that.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
And also it's just something I've always loved.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
And then like later on, I started writing songs on
my guitar and yeah, it's.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
Just there's never been anything else.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
So you could sing well before any kind of training
or anything.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah, it's always been a natural ability. I haven't had
a lot of training really. I lost my voice like
a few years back, and just I was just giving
it too much. And I did get a few lessons
then to try and work out how to do like
warm ups and things like that. But yeah, no, I've
always sang. I've yeah, I've just always It's just I
feel like music is within me, Like my dad's a drummer,

(03:13):
my mum's a guitarist and singer. Yeah, so I feel
like it's in the blood.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
It's just one of those It's really interesting about how
you talk about losing your voice, because when I talked
with Becky Hill and I spoke with Hala, it's the
same thing because you guys all have these really powerful
voices that you're always pushing to the limit.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
It blows my mind that you don't lose your voice more.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
It's a lot as well, you know, And I do
a lot of festivals over the summer.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
Like I have another project as well that's under my name.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
Noala, and yeah, so I'm kind of like balancing the two.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
And yeah, I do. My voice is fragile because I
belt a lot.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
I have big songs, you know, and it's it's hard
to try and like get that balance. But I'm working
on it all the time. You just got to do
all the good things, you.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Know, absolutely well.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
You mentioned Nuala, you know, besides your artist project.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Nula is Nwala your real name.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
Yes, Noana's my real name.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah, that is a gorgeous name. Have you like found
out the origin of it?

Speaker 3 (04:15):
So it's supposed to be Nula, which is an Irish
name that's supposed to be the pronunciation. But my mom
just read it and she really loved it, so she
was like, Noala, that's.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
What it is. It's going to be. And then and yeah, the.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
Nula what Nula means it's actually lovely shoulders, which is
really weird.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
Very randam.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Can you imagine giving someone a compliment of like, oh,
you've got really lovely shoulders.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
Like, what's that? I take it?

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Yeah, so are you fishing for compliments?

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Here?

Speaker 4 (04:46):
The best you could give, I've got lovely shoulders. Come on.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Well, when you were trying to decide on an artist
project name, was Nula your first choice or were there
other names you were considering?

Speaker 4 (04:57):
No, No, it was not. I actually wanted Nu Nu
because that's what my mates call me.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
So but apparently it's also like another name for a lady's.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Kind of part shoulders.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
But I kind of love that.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
I kind of love that, but I think new and
also obviously it's new new new's like the was it
the Hoover and tullytubbies?

Speaker 4 (05:22):
Anyway, I didn't go for that because at.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
The time I was chatting to someone they were like, oh,
someone really established called Nu Nu. If I'm being totally honest,
I kind of wish I had just kept with it
because I don't think it really matters that much.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
But I was like, Okay, what's the next thing.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
I was like, Well, Nula works because it's, like I
don't know, it's basically no whala but without the A
in the middle.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
And it's technically the way it's supposed to be pronounced.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
That's true, but it's also confused things because now I
have people being like because I'm still kind of like
I still I've always corrected people with my name, So
people would call me new La, I'd be like, no,
it's Nohala actually, and now when people call me new Light,
I have to be like, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
You're like, which one are they talking to?

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah, so I don't know both, Fine, Fine, I've grown
into it.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Well, I'll be one hundred with you. I'm definitely happy
you stuck with Neulah instead of new new Oh okay,
well that's Nulah is a beautiful name and it definitely
looks cool.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
Yeah, okay, thank you, And you've.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Got great shoulders. Now.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Of course, you've got your smash Edge of the World
with Medusa, You've got your new song Flames with Artie.
But what is usually the first thing that you do
when you try writing a song?

Speaker 3 (06:37):
So straight away when it comes to doing the dance music,
straight away, if I'm in a session, as soon as
anyone plays anything, I'm straight with my phone recording and
recording melodies.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
I don't wait.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
You know, sometimes people want to show you something and
they're like oh, what do you think of this? And
I'm like, no, no, I'm going straight away because it's the
initial ideas.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
And also it's just like then you get to something quicker.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Like sometimes the first idea that I do is like
verse pre chorus, bam, that's the song, you know. So
it's just like I think, like coming in with fresh ears.
If you just if you spend too long on it,
that's when you get on the overthinking monkey brain, right,
and then it's like and then the creativity doesn't doesn't
come through. So it's like I'm melodies first and then

(07:23):
and then once we have that, and like sometimes it's
a case of like piecing together different parts that I've
been recording, and then we think about lyrics. Lyrics take longer,
you know, coming up with the concept and everything like
that to try and match it with the melody. But yeah,
that's generally how.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
I do it. Well.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
I love that process.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
And speaking of lyrics, I have to know because there
is a lyric that is one of my favorite lyrics
possibly of all time, and it's call me Home because
You're living in my head?

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Did you write that?

Speaker 4 (07:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (07:54):
That is a brilliant line.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
So that one that's in my head, right, yes, Gage, Yeah,
it's just making sure.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Let me know if you need me to let you
know what your lyrics are.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
I'm not even joking. You might have to do so.
I did write that. I did write that.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
With Camden and Eddie, So it was so I can't
remember exactly if I came up with that or whatever,
but it was definitely like, it was a great session
and we definitely all put our pieces in there to
kind of make that song.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
So yeah, well that line is not only a great lyric,
but it's a great pickup line.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
That's why I love it so much.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Call me Home because you're living in my head. That
is brilliant.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
You know.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
I was watching a reel of yours from a few
years ago where you were on stage, I think, performing
with dub Vision, and you made the comment how you
were kind of out of your comfort zone because you're
normally in the crowd at EEDM shows. Do you remember
the first DM show or festival that you went to?

Speaker 3 (09:12):
Oh my god, I think, Okay, I can't. I don't
know if it was actually the first one, but it
would have I think probably one of the first would
have been a dubstep night. Yeah, it was very like
underground vibes, and I think that was my first exposure

(09:35):
to like electronic music. And then from then it was
like graduated from like dubstep to like drum and bass
and then to everything else. But yeah, I think that
was the first one that's like a little dingy, like
dark venue.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
That's so crazy because dubstep is such a grimy genre.
So for your first show, that must have been intense.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
Yeah, it was great.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
It was with my ex boyfriend at the time, and
he actually introduced to dubstep, and I remember it was
the scream uh track.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
You know, in for the Kill. There was like the
remaker the.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
Right and I heard that and he was like, Oh,
this is this dubstep and I went and told my friends.
Like the next day, I was like, oh, I had
this wicked track called dubstep, thinking it was like the
name of the artist, and.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
Then I realized it was genre of music.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
So well, I'm glad you've grown up in it.

Speaker 4 (10:29):
Yeah, loved it.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Now.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Finally, in Finkie's first in honor of the success of
Edge of the World, if you could go anywhere to
the edge of the World, where would be your first
choice of places to go.

Speaker 4 (10:41):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
I think I could be wrong, but I think there's
this place in Brazil or somewhere in South America where
basically you can go to this spot where they have
the most amount of thunderstorms in like like within within
a year, out of everywhere in the world. So I

(11:04):
think it's like the more days of the year than not,
there's like loads of thunderstorms in the sky. So like
I've seen videos of it where there's like flashes of
lightning and it's just all like it looks insane, and
I just think it'd be amazing to witness that. So
that's where I'd go. And I feel like that's quite
like edge of the World vibes as well, you know

(11:25):
what I mean.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
It definitely sounds like it.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
So are you the type of person that when it
rains and storms you love going out and dancing in
the rain.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
You know what, if it's a proper storm, proper rain,
it is amazing. But generally I live in the UK,
so it's we get like spitty rain and it's a
lot of the time and it's just bleak and gray.
So generally I was saying, I like watching a thunderstorm
from inside generally.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Well, I'll tell you, I live in Florida where our
storms are sideways rain, and just be happy that you're
getting the drizzle there.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
I can imagine. I can imagine. So it's like slaty.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
It's like, yeah, it's annoying. Let's talk about this smash.
How was Edge of the World born with Medusa, Inelia
and Genie and you?

Speaker 4 (12:12):
So?

Speaker 3 (12:13):
I actually I wrote this with my friend Matt Matthew
Kerr aka Magica, and we were writing it initially for Tiesto.
Teso sent a instrumental and we wrote to that and
then yeah, he didn't want it in the end and
want to use it. And then fast forward a year,

(12:34):
we just had like a piano version of it and
sent it over to Medusa initially and they loved it,
so yeah, and then it was just kind of it
just went from there.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
Really and they produced it up.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
We did a bit of back and forth, yeah, and
the other guys got involved and it all just came
together and yeah, it's amazing because we were really like
hoping that Tiessa would get involved with that. I feel
like kind of where it is now and like I'm
happy that it kind of came about the way that
it did like a year later.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
So yeah, well, I will say that the final product
could definitely I mean, if you didn't know that it
was Medusa, it could still be a Testo track, So
it still has the same kind of sound to it.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
Yeah, I think that's probably why they loved it, you know,
because I think it's just a euphoric tune and it's like,
I think the idea initially was to kind of have
it maybe as like the edc Anthem, you know, which
would have been really cool.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
You didn't have it as that, but like it, Yeah,
it was.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
We just kind of liked the idea of creating something where,
you know, whether you're at a festival or a club,
like you feel you might be with someone that a
loved one and you just feel euphoric and you want
to like sing this song to them and feel like, yeah,
just like this feeling of like freedom and yeah, and
I feel like it emulates that.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Now. How long ago did you guys start working on it? About?

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Yeah, it would have been like a year ago, so yeah,
because when yeah, about a year and a half ago. Yeah,
we literally it was just me and my friend Matt
and we just like wrote to it when we were there,
and then I think it had been after that. It
was about probably like a six month process of kind
of doing back and forth with the production, and I think.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
We redid some vocals as well.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Actually this was one thing because I remember speaking to Luca,
he's part of Medusa, and he was saying, how initially
when I vocaled it, it was quite we were doing
it like it was like verse chorus kind of you know,
the verse was more laid back, and he was like,
in you know, we've got to think we could thinking

(14:44):
club hit, like let's like, let's go in on the
vocal from the offset. So I think we did redo
some of the verses so that it was just more
powerful vocally from the start, which was a nice Yeah,
it was a good suggestion. I think.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Well, the final product turned out absolutely amazing. Now feel
free to not answer this, but I have to bring
it up. With everything going down with Tiesto, is there
going to be a future with Tiesto and Nula?

Speaker 4 (15:08):
I mean that would be awesome. I would love that.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
Like I'm not gonna say no, but it's it's you know,
the time's gotta be right. It's got to be you know,
a song that resonates with us both and you know
where it works, and I think probably it will happen.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
I feel like, you know it's gonna at some point.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
It definitely needs to. I'll knock on wood right now
for you that it's going to happen. Let's talk about
another one of your smashes, the new one with Artie Flames.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
How was that song born?

Speaker 4 (15:39):
So we wrote that with Camden Cox, who's amazing.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
So it was Artie and Camden, and yeah, it was
just I don't know, it's just a really good session.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
It just really flowed. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
I think it was one of those that we just
we just really we were just like really feeling and
flowing with it in the moment. It just came together
really easily, really quickly, and.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Yeah, it really well. Congratulations on that one too.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
I mean, you sound so amazing on these songs with
a soulful and deep type of voice.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
You sound just incredible. Congratulations, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
Now, before I let you go, I asked chat Ept
to give me a question that Nula has never been
asked before. So I gotta test this out, all right, Okay,
if your voice had a superpower, What would you wanted
to do besides singing?

Speaker 4 (16:30):
That's so mad.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
That's such an abstract question because it's like out me
as a person.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
I don't know, like create I suppose I'd hope that.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
This does this a little bit anyway, but like I
don't know, maybe make people feel a little bit more
at peace. Like perhaps I could sing at someone and
they would just be like, you know, if someone's like
having a bit of a bad day, if they're like
arguing with someone, or if it's just like bad vibes,
I could just sing and everything and then they're just like, ah,
like a little bit of a life, you know, probably

(17:03):
a little bit of a spell thing on people where
it just like makes them happy.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
But I'd like to think that my voice does that
anyway to a point.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
But I was gonna say, that's not really a superpower.
You're already doing that as a fan of your music.
So congratulations on that superpower. Thanks Neila. It is so
awesome finally meeting you and getting to know you better.
Thank you so much for your time with us on
America's Dance thirty.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
Oh thank you for having me. I really appreciate It's
been really fun.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
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