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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oaks.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
I know we are here to talk about Superpowers and
your dance music. But before we talk about that, before
we get to know you better with Finkey's Favorites, Before
I ask you a question you have possibly never been
asked before. I would never forgive myself if I didn't
bring up your new song.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Do you hate me now? Oh?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Really?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Do you like it?
Speaker 4 (00:22):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Your vocals are hauntingly amazing.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Oh, thank you so much. That means the world to me.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
When you get to the part I know what we had,
you always bring it up.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I legit want to break down in tears.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Oh stop it anyways, Oaks, welcome back to America's Dance thirty.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Thank you, Thank you, dance.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Counting down the biggest dance songs in the country. This
is America's Dance thirty. It is great seeing you again.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Congratulations on the incredible success of Superpowers with Tellycast.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Yeah. I'm like, I'm so happy, like wow, wow. The
response is crazy. This is crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
It is such an amazing song and I can't wait
to talk about how it was born with Tellycast. But
before that, let's get to know Oakes better again, this
time with Finkey's favorites.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yes, Okay, Now this.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Might be hard to answer because I know you've written
a lot of songs, but do you have a favorite
lyric that you've written that just hits different every time
you sing it?
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Oh, that's that's such a hard question. I've written so
many songs by now, but I think some lyrics from
the chorus of Hope that I did with the Chainspunkers
is still going to be, like, you know, some of
my favorite lyrics I've ever written.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
And I'm so glad you brought that song up because
I mentioned it to you last time. I personally think
that's one of your most underrated songs.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
It is so good, Thank you, thank you. Know, it's
just like the lyrics and that song is, like I
think it's something that a lot of people can relate to,
like when you realize that it wasn't like you can
confuse like really toxic relationship with like love like I
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did when I was like nineteen, you know, and it's
very common, so.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I still confuse it now speaking of that song, and
not to keep going back to your original project, but
when you've got heartbreaking songs like do You Hate Me Now?
Like Hope, is it hard for you to perform them
and not break down when you're performing them?
Speaker 4 (03:04):
I think it feels more empowering in a way, you know,
it feels very empowering and beautiful. Because I also when
I see like a lot of people that can relate
to the lyrics, I think it's just I'm in such
a good place right now, so I'm like, you know,
we go through a lot of stuff in life, and
it teaches those important lessons and I've grown so much
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as a person over these years, and that you can
also see that in my music, and I just feel
like it feels very empowering.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I'm just always curious about that because like when one
of my favorite genres of songs is really sad depressing songs,
and when I'm singing it as a listener, I start
breaking into tears. So I don't know how the artist
doesn't break into tears.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
I've done it, like of course, especially a song I
wrote about my mom and now that she's not here anymore,
it's like every time I sing it, I have to
like pinch myself not to cry. So yeah, it is
hard sometimes when you really and like when you feel
a bit weak maybe or you feel like you're not
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in your strongest moment and then you sing though. But
it's kind of beautiful because also I think people are
so like understanding and forgiving. It's not like Pigbo are
going to be like, oh she's crying.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, no, I completely agree with that.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Now, Yeah, if you could remix one of your own
songs with any producer, who would be your favorite producer
to remix your stuff?
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Oh that's a hard one. Well, I would definitely love
to do more songs with Tiesto, and yeah, David Ghetta
is welcome to remix any of my songs.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I'm glad the one with Tiesto finally came out because
last time we chatted it was about how you were
supposed to perform it at Amsterdam, but if I remember correctly,
you got sick and you couldn't perform.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
I had the worst food poisoning of my life, and
I was debating with myself like if I should still
do it, But then you know, you don't want to
be remembered as the person who like threw up on
the stage.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
It would have been so bad.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
I would have been so bad.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
So that's not the content we want.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
No, it would have been so bad. So yeah, but
I was. I was really bummed. I was one of
my favorite Like, I was so excited to perform that song,
and you know, it's a super big venue and it's
very really like magical with all those people and the energy,
and then I was just in bed with like, yeah,
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I felt like crap for like days.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
That just sucks.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
And I kind of relate to that because when I
got back from Amsterdam, I had to host gigs the
next weekend, and I came back with a bronchial infection
and lost my voice and it wouldn't come back for
like a week and a half, and I missed like
all these gigs because I didn't have a voice. So
I totally feel but I follow Rivers is still an
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amazing song.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Oh thank you, thank you. Yeah, it's one of my favorites.
I Lovelickyly so much. She's you know, one of my
probably one of my favorite artists. So I was just
I felt so honored doing that cover.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Now.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
What's your favorite part of the process of writing songs?
Is it the writing, is it the insane amount of
work that goes into finally producing it, or is it
when you finally release it and it's out there in
the world.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
I think one of my favorite part is because I
feel like I have the best job in the world
and I just spend time with like my friends writing
songs and I'm like, this is insane. I think my
favorite part is when I get the bounce, when like
the first little bounce and I just listen to it
over and over again and it's so exciting. And of
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course releasing it into the world, sending it to like
a DJ or someone who will like make a production
like change things up, and you're like, oh, you can
do it, Like that's so cool, Like take parts that
we did and make it into something completely different. It's like,
I remember Hope was so slow, it really slow slow
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ass song. It was like about it, like it was
completely different, and then when Drew and Alex came in
and they just completely changed it. So it's so cool sometimes, yeah,
but I think every part of the process is very
rewarding and exciting. And then of course when it comes
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out and you like when you see people who like
in the audience who know the lyrics, that's even cooler.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
As an artist who comes from both sides, you know,
with your Winona Oak songs, you know they're slower and
more down tempo when you get stuff back from a
DJ that's fully produced. Is it weird hearing it like
sped up and faster.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
No, I think it's just cool, Like I love it.
And also now I'm spending so much time with like
amazing producers and you know, in the room and you
can hear it like from scratch a bit more how
it will sound. And No, I think it's really I mean,
in the beginning I was a bit like okay, but
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now I just love it so much.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
And I'm also learning how to DJ myself.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Really heck, yeah, I can't wait to see those shows.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Now, what is your favorite part about being Oaks as
opposed to being Winona.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
I think it gives me a bit more freedom. It
doesn't have to be as.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Personal, and I feel like it's I think electronic music
is just a bit more I don't know how to
say it. It's just I think it just connects with
a lot more people and you can reach out to
more people. It's a different audience, a bit more of
a forgiving audience. It's not us like I think with
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my Winona Oaks off, it's a bit more like personal
and it.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Feels I feel like I feel a bit more free
with my Oaks things.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
So but it's also the beauty of it is that
I can use both and I can connect the two words.
I can still tell my stories and use my voice
and my songwriting, but it doesn't feel less pressured.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
If it makes sense, gotcha, it totally makes sense because
of course with dance songs there's a lot that a
listener can attach to, not only vocals, but also the
production of it in the scent breakdown and stuff.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
So I totally get that.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Finally, in Thinke's Favorites, in honor of superpowers, if you
could have any superpower, what would be your favorite superpower
to have?
Speaker 3 (10:01):
I would want to fly.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
It would be so cool and and the and the
weird part is I'm super scared of heights, so it
makes no sense that I would just I would just
literally always wanted to fly. Or hell, Hell would be
my favorite superpower if I if like my hands could
could heal someone.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I love that I never even thought of that one.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Well, would you choose probably to see the future so
that I don't make the stupid mistakes that I don't.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
It's scary a little bit.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yeah, very true.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
After saying that, I don't know if I want to
know the future, especially in the.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
World we're living in now.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Going back to your flying, this might be a stupid question,
but have you ever skydived?
Speaker 3 (10:46):
No?
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Oh, no, I think I would faint. I can't even
go on a roller coaster. My nephew I took him
to like this theme park a couple of months ago,
and I couldn't. I couldn't go on like the adult
roller coasters. I had to go on the child's roller coasters.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Basically, Oh my god, I love that.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
It was bad.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
I will tell you this.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
So one of my best friends is deathly afraid of
like roller coasters and heights. Two and for my birthday,
she came skydiving with me as a gift for my
birthday and she loved it. Literally the section we landed,
She's like, I'm ready to do it again.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Wow, I think I would have fainted. Probably would I
would faint, for sure.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
It would totally get you over your fear of heights, though.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Yeah, maybe at some point I will try. Maybe.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Well, let's talk about stuff that you're not scared of
amazing hits like Superpowers?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
How was this song born with Telecast?
Speaker 4 (11:45):
So it's a song that I wrote together with legends
Michelle Schoun Andjan Martin, two of my favorites. I just
love working with them and I've written so much with them,
and I love Telecast. I just sweetness are super talented.
So yeah, we started a song in Stockholm and we
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sent it over to them and then they added their
magic to it. And it's such an anthem for me.
It just feels like very like fragile in a way
because you're like very vulnerable. But then it's like, yeah,
we got this together, like let's embrace the weirdness and
our scars, and you know, it's just one of those really,
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you know, it's an anthem for me, So.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
It really is.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
It's very nostalgic sounding in EDM, which is great. Now,
how long ago did you start writing it?
Speaker 3 (12:40):
I think we wrote it.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
I'm not exactly.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
I think we wrote it last year.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Actually, gotcha.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Now, something I love to find out about songs is
how many different versions there are from when you start
working on it, all the tweaking that goes on to
when you finally master it and put it out. When
you're writing songs, is there a lot of changing in
it or do you kind of just write it and
put it out there.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Sometimes there is and sometimes there's not. It's very like
it's like, for example, the song I don't know if
you heard the song I did with Bunt It's called You.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Yes, absolutely, that.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Song started off and it was just very different, and
then he took the vocal and he pitched it up
and he did like a bunch of different things to it,
so it took like a.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Part of it.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
So it's very different with Superpowers. I don't think we
had that many versions, so it's I think we kind
of loved it from you know, from scratch and then yeah, yeah,
and that's kind of the version you're hearing.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Well, congratulations on the success of it. It's such a.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Smash, Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Now, before I let you go, I asked chat Ept
to give me a question that Oaks has never been
asked before, So I got to test this out.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
All right, Okay, yeah, this is gonna be this.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Is gonna be a deep one, so it might be
hard for you to answer, Okay.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
M hmm, Okay.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
When you step on stage, do you become Oaks or
does Oaks become you?
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Oh? Oh, that's well, I think I've become I guess. Uh,
I think I become Oaks.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I guess it's a tough one to figure out, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Oh that's so hard. That feels like a minding me.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
I don't know, like I have no idea, like, yeah,
I mean Oaks. Yeah, I guess I become Oaks because
I think like when especially now with the DJing and
stuff and creating a lot of electronic music, I think
it's it's like I have to like go into this
little Oaks.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
When I was thinking about that question, I'm the same
way because when I go on the radio, yeah, I'm
still Brian Fink, but I mean I'm Brian Fink to
like an umpteenth level, like I just have to, and
then when I come down off of being on the radio,
I'm back to just being normal me. So I totally
get becoming somebody else when you step out on stage. Now,
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when you DJ, are you going to dj under Oaks
or Winona Oak Oaks?
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Gotcha?
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Yeah, yeah definitely, but then you'll definitely include some singing
and stuff. And yeah, it's harder to DJ than I
ever thought. It's like it's a skill for sure. So
I'm just gonna have to practice a lot. All the
credit to like DJs because it's so much harder than
you think it is.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Do you have any idea when your first show is
going to be?
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Well?
Speaker 4 (15:38):
I mean, I would love to do some next year.
I just really need to practice, practice.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Practice, gotcha.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Well, congratulations on everything going on for you, not only
with Oaks but also with Winona Oak. Oaks. It is
so great seeing you again. Thank you so much for
your time with us on America's Dan's thirty.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Thank you, thank you so much. I hope to see
you again soon. America's Dance thirty Counting down the biggest
dance songs in the country.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
America's Dance thirty