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August 12, 2024 14 mins
Punctual, the incredibly talented producers behind A TON of your favorite dance songs, joins us for the first time on America's Dance 30!  John & Will have written and produced songs w Armin van Buuren, Raye, Ella Henderson, Acraze, Bebe Rexha, Rudimental, Chris Lake, Nathan Dawe, Cheat Codes, Jason Derulo, Jonas Blue, Felix Jaehn, Steve Aoki, Joel Corry, VASSY, AND MORE!!

John & Will share how many songs they've written/produced, and which artists they were most nervous about working with.  They also talk about their process and if they normally have a lot of V's to their songs before releasing them.

We also get to know Punctual better w #FinkysFirsts!

Find out about:
  • if music was the first thing they wanted to get into growing up
  • the first song they produced
  • the first big artist they got to work with
  • if 'Punctual' was their first choice for their artist project name
  • the crazy story about the first time they heard one of their songs on the radio
  • what their first major fear is

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
If you are not familiar with the name Punctual, I
promise you, as I've mentioned many times here on America's
Dance thirty, they are behind a lot of your favorite songs.
John and Will Punctual Welcome to America's Dance thirty for
the first time.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
It is great finally meeting you.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Hey guy, I'm Don by the way, I Will.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
And I'm Brian. Nice to meet you, guys. Dance counting
down the biggest dance songs in the country. This is

(00:46):
America's Dance thirty Now.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
I was chatting with Bbe Rexa a few weeks ago
about I'm the Drama and Chase It, which both you
co produced, and then we were chatting with cheat Codes
last week about Fine Love Now with Rafayela, that's your
new smash. Do you have a rough idea of how
many songs you've written or produced?

Speaker 3 (01:10):
I think so.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
I know last year we had forty two songs out
that we have sort produced.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
In one year.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Yeah, and we're hoping to be here this year. That's
the big game.

Speaker 5 (01:19):
I don't know how many we're on track for it.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Track yeah, and do you guys keep tracks?

Speaker 1 (01:25):
So, do you have an idea of the entire punctual catalog.

Speaker 5 (01:28):
So we've got exale document.

Speaker 6 (01:30):
It's very nerdy, but a friend of ours who's a writer,
basically gave it to us, and we have all of
the songs I've ever written, well ever last probably like
four or five years whatever, and then we've got every
song that's like coming out.

Speaker 5 (01:43):
It's very organized, as were the.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Best music users. We're really nerdy.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, but that's got to be mind blowing to just
look at that. Now.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
If I mentioned how many artists you guys have worked with,
we would be here until twenty thirty, which actually isn't
far away. But you've worked with Ray armand Van Buren,
Ella Henderson at Craze bb REXA.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Feel free to take a nap while I'm doing this.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Rudimental Chris Lake, Nathan daw Jason Derulo, Jonas Blue Felix, Yen,
cheat Codes, Joel Corey, Steve Aoki Vassi. Of course your
original stuff. And that's just the name of few that
is insane. Isn't it as insane to hear that?

Speaker 5 (02:29):
I love it When you're saying it, it sounds great.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
I feel great.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Well, feel free to have me to intro you for
your Grammy Award. Is there an artist that when you've
been in the session, you've said to yourselves, Man, how
is this possible?

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Right now?

Speaker 5 (02:48):
I think it's like.

Speaker 6 (02:49):
Sometimes it's like the initially you're always sort of like
you never know what someone's like. I think that's the
sort of the biggest part I think. I think that's
also the same with anyone who work. To be honest,
I think it gets to the point where you're sort
of you're always a little bit just sort of wanting
to make sure you're welcoming in and that all that
natural stuff. I think after you've been remember with someone
for fifteen minutes or whatever, I think you realize that,

(03:13):
you know, repeatedly, everyone is just humans.

Speaker 5 (03:14):
So it's like I wouldn't say we get like crazy.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
Well, we saw first met and we grew up producing
drummer bass, and so like a lot of the big
drum bass DJs are like our idols, and like when
we work with them, I get a bit star struck
just because we spent hours in our bedrooms trying to
make music like them.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
So when you meet them.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
They're the people I'm like, oh my God, like I like,
idolize you, my whole child and basically so that's like
I get nervous around Tom Bass.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
That's awesome. Now, this is just popping in my head.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
I don't know if it's true, but I feel like
when I was doing research, did you guys also produce
for Elton John?

Speaker 3 (03:52):
No?

Speaker 4 (03:52):
He played us song on his radio show and he
called us fabulous.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
And I was like, I was Nicol, that's a great anecdote.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
You should put that on your business card.

Speaker 6 (04:06):
It's like when you buy a book and it has
like the little exactly.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Now, please, let's get to know you guys a little
better with Finky's first Yeah, we'll go back and forth.
So I always love finding out the origin story of artists.
Now I know that you guys met as teens and

(04:31):
you were already producing music, right, Yeah, But when you
were growing up, was music the first thing you wanted
to get into or was there something else you wanted
to be when you grew up?

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Will I don't.

Speaker 5 (04:44):
Think I ever actually thought.

Speaker 6 (04:45):
I think when I was younger, I probably wanted to
be like a drummer in a band, a drum sort
of a lot of my childhood and I thought that
I'd always be in a band, but I actually was
never in any band, which is kind of weird. I'm
half like a brass band, So I guess that was
probably a dream. But I think I just sort of thought.

Speaker 5 (04:59):
That have happened. So it's kind of flicked it in
a way. Actually working in said that's awesome.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
What about you, John, I mean, I think you know,
I like, I like to produce music every spare moment
I got when I was growing up at school, and
that's a universe and I kind of it's one of
the things you never think, you know, you really desperately
hope it's going to happen and you can make a
living out of it and it can be your career.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
But it's so compositive.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
It's so hard that you know, you just have got
to work hard and like try and you know, put
you all into it. So it was a dream of mine,
but I was like trying to stay sort of realistic
and like, you know, pursue other things.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
At the same time.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
You mentioned that you were producing every second you had,
but I mean that's got to be the case now
because of how many songs you go.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
I don't know how it's how many free time.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Oh yeah, yeah, it was literally like non stop. But
we love it. You've got to love it, you know,
you've got to love it.

Speaker 5 (05:52):
To do it.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
I think so, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Now, as I mentioned, you guys have pretty much worked
with everybody. But do you remember the first song that
you guys produced.

Speaker 6 (06:02):
I think that one of the first songs we ever
made that came out was actually one of our songs
called anything for Your Love, which we literally made. I
mean that must have been at UNI, which when we
were probably like twenty, maybe nineteen or maybe even earlier.
I'm not sure anyway, that came out years and years later,
but I'm not sure about what the actual first ever

(06:25):
song we made was.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
It was probably pretty bad, I want to know.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
I mean, that's pretty much what everybody says, so don't
feel bad.

Speaker 6 (06:34):
I think we made a lot of like really like
lo fi like future garage we just you know, would
go on for like fifteen minutes or something.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Who was the first big artist that you got the
opportunity to work with?

Speaker 6 (06:45):
The first like real like production that came out for
a big artist was Ray. That was our first sort
of like you know, notable sort of production. And which
is regardless.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
Regardless, Yeah, the Mental which is like, at the time,
it's funny that that song because we did a version
of it and we heard fact that they liked.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Or whatever, didn't hear anything.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
And then one Friday morning she got a text to
my friend being like happy release Day.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
We're like, we're like, what, I just went on New.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
Music Friday and it was just like they're like, and
I'm like, oh my god, it's actually out.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
This is just crazy.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
That's insane, you know that that.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
I don't know why, but it brings up a core
memory of me putting a note in a girl's locker
asking her to go out with me and having to
wait all day to find out the answer because she
didn't go back to her locker. Is that kind of
what it's like when you don't hear from an artist
and you don't know if the song, if they liked
the song or not.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
Sometimes it's sometimes a nervous way, for sure, especially if
you're sending it to the artist and you sort of
put your hand literally just sending her something tonight to somebody,
and it's like if you if you're like, this can
be very nerve bracking. So you're like, I just spent
so long on this and like, really, hope you like.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
It, but that's so awesome. It was with Ray she
is so talented. Now, when you guys were trying to
decide on an artist project name, was Punctual the first

(08:27):
name you guys were going to go with, or were
there other names who were considering?

Speaker 6 (08:30):
There was a couple, there was a couple. We actually
nearly were called It's not a cooled name at all.
It probably could have been a good liquidure on base name,
but we were nearly called Hazelton's.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
I think it was just Hazelton, was it okay?

Speaker 5 (08:44):
Sorry?

Speaker 3 (08:46):
And we were I.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
Think it was the first of the deal and we
were signing like a record feel and as Hazelton, And
about four or four days ago they're like some of
these already Hazelton.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
You can't be hate. You need to find another name quick.
We were like, so we found punk.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
You know, well, it's a great name. I'm glad you
guys decided on that one.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
It was a good name.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
But it's also like if you have in a loud place,
it's not a good name because somebody like, what's your
ass name? You're like punk Jual and they're like punk
Jaw and you're like punktual and they're.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Like, plus if you're ever late to a session, that
just lends to a lot of jokes.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Now, you guys have had a lot.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Of songs on the radio, but do you remember the
first time hearing one of your songs on the radio.

Speaker 5 (09:38):
It's a good story about that.

Speaker 6 (09:39):
Actually, our second of a single with r c A
where we just signed our first deal aston artist. The
b side to that was a song called Fix, which
is like a nine minute song which we both love.
But yeah, we heard on the radio and we were like,
we got told the times tuning and we tuned in
and we're listening to it and we're like, this is

(10:00):
this isn't the most recent version. It's like an unmixed,
different arrangement, like different sounds.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
And how is this impossible that this version's got to somebody,
let alone radio and something like that. So I'm really
happy that our song was on the radio. Also, like.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Was it somebody on the team that released it or
was it somebody that just got what happened?

Speaker 5 (10:27):
So we'll never find out.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
It's some type of thing that I don't think anyone's
going to stop owing up to. They'll probably but.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Hey, you're on the radio. That's all that really matters. Now.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Finally, in Finky's first in honor of the new song
with cheat codes and Raphaela find love. Now it's got
the lyrics don't be afraid to fall? But what is
your first major fear?

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Will?

Speaker 5 (10:50):
Oh, that's an easy one, wasps easily.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
This is why we're such a good team because mine's
also wasps.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
But that means you're not a good team because if
there's ever a wasp near you, neither of you are
taking care of it.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
Honestly, you should see it when a Washton the studio
we used to work out of my bedden years ago,
and on a summer's day of the windows open and
when a wasp came in, it was absolute pandemonium, like
pushing each other out of the way, like.

Speaker 5 (11:20):
Hearing around the door.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Oh my god, that's terrifying. Now.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
When I was speaking with Nina Nesbit a long time ago,
she shared with me that one of her biggest Smashes
was on her hard drive for five years. Galant has
shared that one of his biggest songs was on his
hard drive for ten years. I know that I saw
that you guys post that the song with Switch Disco,
Alock and Ella Henderson had been like a year or

(11:48):
two before it was put out. Fine Love Now was
a couple of years ago. Do you know what song
has been on your hard drive the longest?

Speaker 4 (11:58):
I mean, I've got every single project I've ever made
on my computer when I was like fourteen.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Oh my god, you still have that on your computer?

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Yeah, I've got everything.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Wow, that is insane.

Speaker 6 (12:12):
We've had a really good TikTok thing actually where we
were listening back to some like randomly clicking on some
of your projects.

Speaker 5 (12:18):
That was really funny.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Is it tough to listen to the older stuff?

Speaker 4 (12:22):
It was just hilarious. It's hilariously bad. It's like, really,
it's quite funny. It's a great watch.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
That is awesome. I've got to check that out now.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Something I always love to talk about songs is how
many different v's there are from when you start working
on it, all the tweaking that goes on when you
finally master it and put it out.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
When it comes to punctual songs.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Are there normally a lot of v's or is it
a different situation every time?

Speaker 3 (12:46):
You know what?

Speaker 6 (12:46):
With our songs that we personally just put out under
our artist project to quite often just pretty much just
like the session demo and then maybe some tweaks a
day after. It's probably like a couple of days we
don't really spend. I wouldn't say we agonize over our
own music.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
Actually, yeah, it's sort of because with our stuff we
only need to please ourselves and if it's like something,
we just do what comes naturally. And if something's not
coming naturally with a song, it's probably not right for us,
I guess. So, like the best song has always come
really quickly.

Speaker 6 (13:17):
I think we've never like slogged through I really I
wouldn't say a punctual song and been on like version
like fifty and being.

Speaker 5 (13:25):
Like, oh, we're going to get it right. It's just
we probably wouldn't have stopped working on it or something.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Well, speaking of your original stuff, was it out of
the Blue? Is that one of your originals that was?
I mean, so highly underrated. I love that song so much.
It was such a great song.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
Me too.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
I've actually had a barbecue last week and I was
trying to one of my girlfriend's friends, and well I
wasn't her friend, but as a friend of her friend,
and she found out like us part Punctual, and she's like,
oh my god, I love Punctual.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
Amazing. That's so good. F're like my favorite songs out
of the Blue, and I was like, that's one of
my favorite songs. That's a true bad if you're not
out of the blue.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Well, it sounded great on Evolution, and I got to
tell you, as a programmer, when you hear a great
song like that, it is so frustrating that it's not
going higher on the charts. Not that you know, the
charts are live or die by, but still as a programmer,
I'm like, man, every station should be playing this song. Well,
congratulations not only on all the stuff going on for

(14:28):
you guys now, but everything that's gone on in your career.
It is so great finally chatting with you, guys, Punctual.
Thank you for your time with us on America's Dance thirty.

Speaker 5 (14:38):
Thank you, thanks so much.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
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