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September 15, 2025 16 mins
Celebrating his latest smash w R2, Sonny Wern joins us for the first time on America's Dance 30 to talk all things "Echoes"!  He shares how the song was born, how long ago they started working on it, and why it took so long to release. Sonny also answers a question he has never been asked before!

And we get to know Sonny Wern better w #FinkysFirsts!!

Find out about:
  • if music was the first thing he wanted to get into growing up
  • if 'Sonny Wern' was his first choice for an artist project name, and where the name came from
  • his first time performing for a crowd
  • the first dance song that made him fall in love w EDM
  • the first thing he would hide in his walls for people to find in the future


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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now I'm just gonna get this out of the way
right up front so that I'm not embarrassed throughout this
entire interview. Is your last name pronounced Vern or is
it Werne because I know it's Dutch.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Well, it's actually Warn.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Oh. I've hosted mainstage at festivals, so if I was
announcing you at Tomorrowland, you would want it as Warn Warren.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
That's correct.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Warn. All right, Well, now that we got that out
of the way, I'm probably gonna screw it up throughout
the entire interview. But Sonny, we're gonna be talking all
about your smash echoes coming up. We're gonna get to
know you better with Thinkey's first ask you a question
that you have possibly never been asked before, Sonny Warn.

(00:46):
Welcome to America's Dans thirty for the first time.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Oh let's go.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Thanks for having me, man, I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Counting down the biggest dance songs in the country. This
is America's Dance thirty. Did I see that you're pretty
new to the scene. Did I see that you released
your first song like only four years ago?

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, that's correct.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
I've been making music for my whole life, actually, But yeah,
everything changed when I started making tiktoks a couple of
years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
It's amazing how TikTok can do that, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Definitely?

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Well, congratulations on this smash Echoes. It is so good.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Thank you. Thanks.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Yeah, I love it too. The record has been laying
down for a couple months already. I think we wrote
the song almost a year ago. But yeah, the production wise,
there were still some things that we need to figure
it out. And yeah, however, the melody of the hook
kept stuck in my head.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
So from the data we voted.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
I knew, okay, I need to to do something with
this record, and I'm very happy that it's out.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah, it's very nostalgic sounding. It's got that like cascatta
sound to it. So I can't wait to talk about
how this song was born. But first, let's get to
know Sonny a little better with Thinky's first.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah, let's go.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
So, I always love finding out the origin story of artists.
I saw that you actually started playing drums when you
were like eight, right.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, when I was eight, I started playing
the drums after asking my parents four years yeah to
put me on the drumming lessons and they were like, yeah,
that's just like a stupid toy. You're gonna enjoy it
for a few seconds or a few weeks and then
you're ar done with that. But yeah, after after months
of asking them, they finally let me do the drum

(02:54):
lessons and I did it for like four years. Yeah,
my parents always let me listen to rock music when
I was a kid. Yeah, it was kind of a
childhood dream for me to become a rock or a
heavy metal artist, something completely different than I'm doing right now.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
It's insane yea. And then you were also producing hip
hop tracks in your teens, right.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Yeah, So I stopped playing the drums when I was
twelve or something. Then I switched to DJing because that
was cool at the time, and yeah, somehow the hip
hop came on my path, and yeah, I started making
beats for hip hop artists and all the rappers.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Gotcha. Now, you mentioned that it was your dream to
get into music, but when you were growing up, was
music the first thing that you wanted to get into
or was there something else you wanted to be when
you grew up?

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Nope, nothing else.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
From an early age, I already knew Okay, I love
to be on the podium.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
I love to make music and do something creative, you know.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
So yeah, from a very young age, I already knew okay,
music is going to be my future.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
And what do your parents think now you're actually successful
in music?

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Oh, they are enjoying it very much. Yeah, they are
super proud. And I also feel sometimes like, yeah, I
prove you guys are wrong. Yeah, no they are. I'm joking.
They are very supportive.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
I would put that up on the fridge. Proved you
guys wrong.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, exactly. Sometimes they're joining too shows.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
I'd always let them listen to my new music to
get their honest opinion, and yeah, it's fun. They are
very supportive. I think that's very important as well for
musicians and young kids. We've got the same dreams, you know.
Support from home and support for my parents is yeah,
so important.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Absolutely. Now I'm probably gonna pronounce it wrong again, but
Sunny Warne isn't your real name? Right? Oh? I got
it right?

Speaker 3 (04:48):
No, yes, no, it's not my real name. My real
name is Damian and my last name is Twilled, which
is very dutchy. So me and my friends decided to
go for another name that sounds more international.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
You know, when you were trying to decide on an
artist project name, was Sonny Warn your first choice or
were the other names you were considering?

Speaker 3 (05:14):
I got a few ones, probably, but I don't remember
them anyway.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
So where did Sonny Warren come from?

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Oh? Yeah, okay, here we go. I've been waiting years
for someone to ask me this question.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
You're welcome that I finally came along.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Yeah, yeah, Well can you maybe guess it? What do
you think?

Speaker 1 (05:33):
I have no idea. I couldn't even pronounce it properly.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
Well, of course it doesn't mean anything with my own name,
because Damien Twilled it doesn't sound the same. So we
started to figure out what could be a cool name,
a cool, funny name, and then we watched other artists
names and that didn't work out. Then we started looking
at label, you know, music labels. So you got Sony,

(06:03):
which is turned into Sony. Then you got, of course Warner,
which is turned into Warn and yeah, then you got Universal,
the third major label. So we started our own party
slash maybe a radio show in the future but for
now only events, which is called Sony Universe.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
That is amazing. I would have never guessed that.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah, it's so funny.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
Even though we signed songs with Sony and Universe as well,
nobody asked me, so, yeah, that's a story behind it.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
That is a great story. Well, I'm glad you guys
came up with it because it's a great name for you.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Now you've been playing all over the world. I saw
that you recently hosted a stage at Creamfields for the
first time, which is incredible. Dream Fields, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, it's a big festival on holand one of the biggest.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Actually, congratulations on that. Do you remember your first time
ever performing for a crowd.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
I was playing the drums in like a student day.
So all the local music schools came together and they
made bands out of everyone's thing. So I was the drummer,
and the singing school connected me with a singer.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Then we got the guitar.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
You know, all the music things came together to form
a band together, and from there on you were just
able to pick a song, just like an old classic
or something. And they were like ten or fifteen groups,
fifteen bands, and everyone was able to play their own song.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
And I was so nervous that day.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
But when I was done, you know, I was hiding
myself in the drums.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
I was a bit shy.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
But when I was done, I was like, whoa, this
was amazing, and yeah, I want to do this and
performing the rest of my life.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
It is amazing. Now, when you partlayed into DJing, do
you remember your first time doing a DJ set?

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yep, yeah, I remember as well.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
That was in a club called Theater that was in
a small town in Holland and near my house, and
that was like a teenage party and I really stalked
them to ask if I could play there, and they
were like, okay, well you are in high school right now,
why did.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
You start selling tickets?

Speaker 3 (08:24):
And if you sell fifty tickets or more, we're going
to let you play the first thirty minutes.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
And I did and I was able to play the.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
First thirty minutes and from there on, you know, they
host multiple events.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
They let me play on multiple events. So that was
a cool kickstart.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
That is awesome. I wonder what those fifty people think now.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
I don't know if they still remember me, but it
was fun.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
That's so awesome. Now, did I see you remixed an
absolute classic Lasgo something?

Speaker 2 (09:04):
That's correct? It's a collaboration with you, not.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Us, man, I see, that's when I grew up in
dance music, and that is an absolute classic.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Yeah, I was so cool. We're working at you know.
It's such an odd classic and I love to focus.
I love the song, so yeah, turning it into a
twenty twenty five version, yeah, what's very special, and as
well with you that us is a legend.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Now thinking back to the beginning, do you remember the
first dance song that made you fall in love with
edm Oh.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
Epic by Sondro, Sofa and Quintino. That's a big hit
in Europe, but maybe not in America, but you should
check it out. It's a cool record.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
But I mean, looking back on those times like Lasgo,
Ian van Dahl, September Cascata like that, just that was
such a great time of music.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
It is, Yeah, it was amazing.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
But yeah, the Let's Go song was released in two
thousand and one or two if I'm correct. I was
still still walking around in the diapers at time, so
I can't remember that time.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
I'm going to escort myself out of this chat because
I was actually on the radio playing that song.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Oh no way.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
But we don't need to talk about that. No, let's
let's skip that. I'll cut that out now. Finally, in
Finky's First in honor of your smash Echoes, it has
the lyrics all our memories hidden in the walls. Now,
this is going to be a very tough question. But
if you could hide something in the walls for people

(10:35):
in the future to find, what would be your first
thing to hide?

Speaker 2 (10:40):
That's a good question.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
You've been waiting for years for somebody to ask you
that too, right.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
Yeah, yeah, probably a big stash of year.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
I mean, I will be very happy if if I
find that somewhere.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Absolutely I would have thought that you would have just
done like your sunglasses or something.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Yeah, be a good option.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Well, let's talk about this smash. How was e Goes born?

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Well, actually, we wanted to create a relatable, emotional dance
song about memories that stay with you, like Echoes from
the past, suitable for radio, but still powerful enough for
the main stage. And as I said, the.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
First the first version that we made was like an
up tempo, hypertechno version, which didn't felt it was okay,
but it was not how it's supposed to be, you know.
So a couple months later, we started messing around again
with the vocals, turned the BBM.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
A bit lower. Everything kind of came together and that's
the current version which is online now.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Something I love to find out about songs is how
many different versions there are from when you start working
on it, all the tweaking that goes on when you
finally mastered and put it out. Do you remember with
the final vias of Echoes?

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Uh? Probably fee three?

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Oh that's not bad.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
It really depends on which record you're working on.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Sometimes you're not happy and you keep making new versions
and sometimes it's just good and fine.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
And yeah, now who is the R two that's on
it with you?

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Are two?

Speaker 3 (12:20):
That's a female singer songwriter duo and yeah, they wrote
a vocal together with me and Lianta. Liane is also
a singer songwriter, one of my best friends and one
of the most delited songwriters from the from the Netherlands
to be honest. Yeah, yeah, we did it together and
on the final production it was Melely and Hoods as well.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
But it's also a Dutch DJ producer duo and yeah,
a few very lucky to work with them.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Yeah, you guys all did an amazing job with it,
not only the production, but the vocals are just so
incredible on it too.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, yeah, I totally agree.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Well, congratulations on that smash. I can't wait to see
it climbing the charts now, I know.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Well, thanks for the support.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
I mean, it's in the America's dance really, which is
filled with artists I've been looking up to, so I
feel honored.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Now. I know, You've got a ton of new music
and shows coming up, so everybody needs to follow you
at Sonny warn Why don't you share with us some
of the shows that you've got coming up.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Oh yeah, Well, first of all, I love touring. It's amazing.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
I'm having the time of my life, honestly. And for
the next couple months, I got a few debut shows.
On the twenty seventh of September, I'll be back in
Switzerland again, so that's very nice. On the second or
third of October, I'm doing my first show in Paris,
which is nice. I've been in Paris a couple of times,

(13:44):
but I never played there, so that's very cool. And
in November, I'm doing my debut show at Ministry of Sound.
It's like in one of the biggest clubs in London,
and I believe it's in the.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Top thirty best clubs of the world. So yeah, exciting times.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
So what you're saying is you're pretty busy.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
I'm pretty busy and I love it. It's yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
I just can't express how good it feels to stand
on the stage people dancing and evan good time. That's
only where on all the digital platforms Instagram, tiktook, YouTube,
et cetera.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Now, before I let you go, I asked chat ept
to give me a question that Sonny Wren has never
been asked before. So I gotta test this out, all right, Okay,
come on, now, if someone built an amusement park inspired
by your music and only one song of yours could
play on loop all day, which song would you want

(14:38):
it to be?

Speaker 2 (14:40):
I got two songs in mind. One of them is
Dance for Me.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
That's like my first break to record because it's a
false record, and of course in parks roller coasters are
false as well, you know. Or maybe the Ketchup Song
because that one is even faster, or the Macarena because yeah,
it's all about dancing, good vibes and happy fivees. So yo,

(15:07):
I need to only pick one right, just one? Yeah,
let's go for dance for me?

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Now?

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Did you you did an updated version of Macrena?

Speaker 2 (15:15):
I did?

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Wow. So I don't DJ. I can't mix my way
out of a mixing bowl, but one of my friends
let me mix Makreena one time and the original. There
were like two or three different versions, and so I
just kept mixing the versions into each other. So embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
I would love to see your DJ.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
No, you do not. Nobody needs to see that. Sonny Varn,
Congratulations on everything going on for you. Thank you so
much for your time with us on America's Dance thirty.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
Well, thanks again for having me, Thanks for the support.
Much appreciated, and I hope everyone enjoys.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
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