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Grief, heat, and a plate of ants—today’s conversation pulls no punches. We open with a disturbing report from Brazil about a couple found dead in a motel bathtub, where alleged 122°F water and a space heater, combined with alcohol and cocaine, led investigators to call it heat stroke. The facts are gutting, and the framing invites scrutiny: what evidence supports the temperature claim after the fact, and why was a child’s birthday used as a narrative hook? We talk about how sensational details can blur compassion, and why good reporting should privilege clarity over shock.

From there, we turn to Zelda Williams’ stark message: stop sending AI-generated videos of her father. Her words hit hard—calling out the “slop puppeteering” of a beloved artist and the pressure on grieving families to accept digital revenants as tribute. We unpack the core issues: consent for posthumous likenesses, the emotional burden placed on the living, and the false promise that AI “future” equals cultural progress. Nostalgia is powerful, but when it becomes content extraction, it crosses a line.

Finally, we dive into a Michelin experiment: yogurt and desserts fermented with ants, inspired by a nearly forgotten Balkan-Turkish technique. The science is fascinating—enzymes and acids in ants kickstart fermentation—but fascination doesn’t erase the ick factor. We weigh tradition against taste, innovation against choice, and ask whether “sustainable” should ever be used as a cudgel to push diners past their comfort zones.

We end with two questions for you: Should AI recreations of the deceased be shared when families say no? And would you try ant-fermented yogurt, even once? Subscribe, share your take, and leave a review—your perspective shapes what we tackle next.

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Episode Transcript

SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
Hello, good morning.
Okay, we have three stories foryou.
The first one is kind of dark.
I have to I do have to admitthis.
I don't know why I wanted toshare this with you, but it's
just astounding to me whatpeople do.
I don't get it.
Okay, so this husband and wife.
Let me read the headline.
Cop and wife high on cocaine diewhile celebrating daughter's

(00:25):
fourth birthday afteroverheating in bathtub.
You heard that right.
So the story I I don'tunderstand why they this New
York Post has to throw in theywere celebrating their
four-year-old daughter'sbirthday because I don't think
the birthday had anything to dowith it.

(00:45):
Uh and who celebrates theirdaughter's four-year-old
birthday by getting drunk andhigh on cocaine?
Who does that?
Terrible parents, that's who.
Alright, here we go.
A police officer I just cannotbelieve this story.
Now it's not in America.
A police officer and hisbusinesswoman wife died from

(01:08):
heat stroke.
I think it was more than heatstroke, after getting into an
overheated bathtub.
What do you mean an overheatedbath?
Who do I don't understand?
Was it a whirlpool, but they'recalling it a bathtub?
While drunk and high on cocaine,as they celebrated their
four-year-old daughter'sbirthday, authorities in Brazil

(01:31):
have said, so it's from Brazil.
This place explains a lot.
Military cop Jefferson LuisSagaz Sagaz 37 and his nail
salon owner partner AnnaCarolina Silva 41 were found
dead in a motel in the Brazilianstate of Santa Catarina on the

(01:54):
night of August 11th, Braziloutlet G1 Globo reported.
The couple had spent the daycelebrating their young
daughter's birthday, drinkingalcohol and doing cocaine before
going to a nightclub andchecking into the Dallas Motel
at around midnight.
What the actual TF?

(02:17):
What do you mean?
This is how they celebratedtheir four-year-old daughter's
birthday?
This is insane.
I I'm I'm not even gonna saywhat I'm thinking, but you know
what I'm thinking.
When they failed to pick uptheir daughter the following
day, relatives raised the alarmand reported the pair missing.

(02:38):
The bodies were found in themotel bathtub.
Authorities ruled that heatstroke was the cause of the
death, but that the cocaine andalcohol in their blood may have
dulled their reactions to thesevere heat.
You think the water in thebathtub had reached 122 degrees.
How do they know this?

(02:59):
If they didn't find them tillthe next day, the water was not
that hot the next day.
How do they know this?
How do they know?
Unless they did something on thebot they checked the body
temperature?
I how do they know?
Somebody tell me that.
Somebody tell me that who waslistening.
How did they know that the waterreached 122 degrees Fahrenheit

(03:20):
while this oh while a spaceheater in the room was also
turned up high?
Investigators found.
What?
Did they what?
I mean, it's summertime, is itnot summertime over there?
Do they not know how to turn,you know, the was there no heat,
regular heat in the hotel room?

(03:40):
I I I don't understand this.
The cause of both deaths was Ican't even pronounce those
words.
Exogenous poisoning, EXO G E N OU S poisoning favoring the
process of heat stroke withintense dehydration, thermal
collapse, culminating in organfailure and death.

(04:03):
What a way to go! My goodnessgracious Traces of cocaine and
very high blood alcohol levelswere revealed in toxicology
tests.
The use of cocaine, which indoses alone could cause torpor,
T-O-R-P-O-R, I don't know whatthat is, drowsiness and even

(04:25):
coma co coma in the individualcombined with alcohol, which
also causes this high doses suchas torpor, coma, and drowsy
Okay, whatever.
I just don't understand this.
Further examination of the motelroom, the couple's car and
security cameras was carried outwhile civil police forensic

(04:48):
reports were able to rule outcarbon monoxide poisoning,
drowning, or electric shock, aswell as anybody else being
involved in their deaths.
These circumstances, combinedwith the substances found in
their bodies, led the civilpolice to conclude that the
cause of death was sudden andnot due to third-party
intervention.

(05:08):
Uh-huh.
Okay.
So it tells us what torpor is.
T-O-R-P-O-R is a state ofphysical dormancy similar to
hibernation where the body'smetabolic rate slows
considerably.
Uh wow.
The couple had been uh almosttogether for almost two decades

(05:30):
and had no history of violencein the relationship.
Uh wow.
This is crazy.
I don't know.
We need, I think you thinkthere's more to the story than
that, or do you think that's it?
Just another example, don'tdrink and do drugs, people.
I just, wow, I'm I'm just I'mamazed.

(05:51):
Alright, so this next one we'regonna go to Robin Williams'
daughter is pleaing for peopleto stop sending her AI videos of
her father.
Robin Williams' daughter, Zelda,begs fans to stop sending her
gross AI videos of late actor.
It's not what he'd want.

(06:12):
Yeah.
She there everybody's she issaying everybody is calling this
the future, but really whatyou're doing is you're taking
old stuff and regurgitating it,and it's not good.
Robin Williams' daughter has amessage for the late actors fan.
Zelda Williams, 36, took tosocial media this week to beg
people to stop sending herAI-generated photos of the

(06:34):
iconic comedian who tragicallytook his own life in August 2014
at the age of 63.
Uh please just stop sending meAI videos of dad, Zelda began in
a post shared to her Instagramstories on Monday, October 6th.
Stop believing I want to see itor that I'll understand.
I don't and I won't.

(06:55):
I don't blame her.
I'd get pissed off, I'd be upsettoo.
I've seen way worse, I'llrestrict and move on.
But please, if you've if you'vegot any decency, just stop doing
this to him and to me, toeveryone even full stop.
It's dumb, it's a waste of timeand energy, and believe me, it's
not what he'd want.
To watch the legacies of realpeople be condensed down to this

(07:18):
vaguely looks and sounds likethem, so that's enough, just so
other people can churn outhorrible TikToks.
A slop puppeteering them ismaddening.
You're not making art, you'remaking disgusting overprocessed
hot dogs out of the lives ofhuman beings out of the history

(07:39):
of art and music, and thenshoving them down someone else's
throat, hoping they'll give youa little thumbs up and like it.
Gross.
I mean, some people will say,Well, she doesn't have to watch
it, but apparently these peopleare sending them to her.
I guess she and then some peoplewill say, Well, she doesn't have
to be on social media.
Bullshit.
Shut up.
And for the love of everything,stop calling it the future.

(08:01):
AI is just badly recycling andregurgitating the past to be
reconsumed.
You are taking in the you aretaking in the human centipede of
content and from the very, veryend of the line, all while the
folks of the front laugh andlaugh and consume and consume.
That is insane.

(08:22):
That's crazy.
Uh wow.
Good for her for speaking out.
And there's lots of pictures ofher with Robin together when she
was a little and even as anadult.
Um, bless.
Bless her heart.
I mean, I'm on her side on that,that's for sure.
All right, next up, well, andmaybe that should be the

(08:43):
question of the day.
What do you think about thattaking dead people and making AI
out of it and putting it outthere on the internet?
What are your thoughts on that?
That will that's the question ofthe day.
I don't like it, but you know,what am I?
Alright, so next up, this mightalso be a question of the day.
I need your thoughts on this.

(09:03):
This is the last story, and thenwe'll move on.
I mean, then we'll end it.
We'll end the episode.
Michelin starred restaurantserves yogurt and with ancient
recipe using ants.
Remember, these people aretrying to force insects on us.
Yogurt made with ants was servedat a Michelin restaurant after
scientists recreated an ancientrecipe.

(09:26):
Okay, it's ancient.
These people are dead.
Why are you trying to revive anancient recipe?
Yogurt ice cream sandwiches inthe shape of an ant,
mascarpone-like cheeses andcocktails, all inspired by using
the insect as a key ingredient,were dished up to diners as part

(09:47):
of the experiment.
Would you that's a question ofthe day?
Would you eat this that I'm thatI just described?
Would you eat this dessert withants in it?
No, that's my answer.
Pass.
The yogurt tasted slightly tangyand herbaceous and had flavors

(10:07):
of grass-fed fat, according tothe research team.
That sounds disgusting.
Doesn't that sound appetizing?
The yogurt uh Danish scientistsreceived near the near forgotten
recipe that was once commonacross the Balkans and Turkey.
So that explains a lot.

(10:28):
The team showed that bacteria,acids, and enzymes in ants can
kickstart the fermentationprocess that turns milk into
yogurt.
You know what?
We live in 2025.
There are other ways to do this.
Why do you want to go back toancient time ways of doing
things?
I don't understand these people.

(10:49):
They have nothing else better todo.
They say their work published inthe journal iScience highlights
how traditional practices caninspire new approaches to food
science and even add creativityto the dinner table.
That sounds stupid.
What do you mean?
Highlights how traditionalpractices can inspire new

(11:11):
approaches.
We've already done that.
We're doing that right now.
We don't need any more stufflike this.
You don't need to go back intime.
Alright, I know.
I'm just going on.
Anyway, that's on the New YorkPost if you want to go see that.
Oh my gosh.
Okay.
So there were your couple of thequestions of the day.
I'll give you two.

(11:31):
One about the AI and then oneabout insects.
My answer to both of them is no.
A hard no.
Okay, I gotta go.
Thanks for listening.
Bye.