Cold Cases, Gender Laws, and the Secret Duties of Husbands

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A shocking tragedy unfolds when a long-term murder suspect takes his own life during a virtual interview with investigators. Michael Thomas, connected to a 2010 cold case where a young mother was beaten to death while her baby lay nearby, controlled a 45-minute Zoom conversation before shooting himself on camera. Why did justice take so long, and what happens now for the victim's family and her child, who's grown up without resolution?

The landscape of gender policy continues to evolve rapidly across America. The FBI has issued a call for citizens to report medical facilities performing gender transition procedures on minors, following renewed federal interest in protecting children from potentially harmful interventions. Meanwhile, Nebraska joins 24 other states in enacting legislation that prevents males from competing in girls' sports, with Governor Jim Pillen signing the "Women's Act" into law. These developments highlight the growing tension between state and federal approaches to gender-related issues while Congress remains largely inactive.

Beyond the headlines, we explore a personal question about relationships and expectations. When my husband brings me coffee and kisses me good morning, is it love or duty driving his actions? This sparked a fascinating conversation about the unspoken "duties" men feel obligated to perform in relationships. Men, we want to hear from you – do you have a mental checklist of things you do out of obligation rather than genuine desire? Share your thoughts on the secret duties of husbands and whether these gendered expectations help or hinder authentic connections. What rituals in your relationship began as conscious efforts but evolved into genuine expressions of love?

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Happy Thursday.
Welcome one and all.
Hello and good morning mylittle love bunnies.
Alright, here we go.
We have three interestingsubjects stories for you today.
This first one person ofinterest in 2010 cold case
murder of Oklahoma.
Mom shoots himself in the headon a Zoom call with horrified

(00:24):
investigators.
Shoots himself in the head on aZoom call with horrified
investigators.
I think I remember this case.
This person Michael Thomas ishis name that shot himself, a
longtime person of interest inthe killing of a 35-year-old,
Julie Mitchell, requested thathis meeting last week with
investigators be virtual ratherthan in person, before he killed

(00:45):
himself on camera.
So let me go.
So let me go back and find.
I'll just have to read thewhole thing.
Oh gosh, this is horrible.
The phone landed right by hishead, so we got to hear him die.
Hear the death rattle.
The attorney said on tuesday.

(01:07):
It was a shocking and horrific,as you can imagine.
Thomas, who took the call from awooded area that should god
wooded area.
Um, red flag number one outsidea Kansas casino, was being
questioned as part of theinvestigation into the murder of
Mitchell, who was beaten todeath in the bedroom of her

(01:30):
Oklahoma City home in November2010.
Her 13-month-old baby wasdiscovered unharmed, right by
her bludgeoned body.
I think the body was found in acloset.
There were $30,000 in the safe.
This guy's checkbook was leftbehind.
That's why he was a person ofinterest.
So police found Mitchell's bodyin the master closet.

(01:52):
Approximately $30,000 wasmissing from the closet safe,
according to Oklahoma.
So Thomas, whose companycheckbook was found at
Mitchell's home after her death,had been a person of interest
in the case for years.
Okay, questions.
This was a 2010 murder and thisguy has been questioned several

(02:21):
times.
What's the problem?
Why are the police andinvestigators dropping the ball
on this?
What?
What is the deal?
Somebody is not doing their job.
Why is it taking it this long?
Seems like a pretty open andshut case to me.
Why is it taking so long?
Or now I guess it's over with,since the guy shot himself, he

(02:41):
was the person of interest.
Wow.
When investigators wanted toquestion him again this week,
thomas agreed, but on onecondition, the station reported.
He insisted that the meetingnot be in person.
Beggars can't always bechoosers, and this is somebody
we wanted to talk to.
We needed to talk to.
There were questions we neededto have answered by him.

(03:02):
Well, you've questioned himseveral times and he's not
giving you the answers.
What makes you think this onewas going to be any different?
So Thomas and the Oklahoma Citydetectives arranged for a Zoom
call on May 31st that Thomas wasgoing to take out of state.
He had agreed to be interviewedby detectives, but only on the
stipulation that he wasn't goingto be at the same location.

(03:23):
He wanted to be in a mannerlike a Zoom call.
Yeah, we got all that.
We know this is ridiculouswriting.
You don't have to go and repeatthis a gazillion times.
He didn't give me anopportunity to ask him any
questions.
Carter said he controlled theconversation from start to
finish.
Oh, that's weird.
That's weird.
I wonder what he said.

(03:44):
If they they there's here theguy was.
They were on a zoom call for 45minutes before he took out the
gun and shot himself.
And they're now saying that he,that the suspect, controlled
the the conversation for 45minutes.
So he said here it is, about 45minutes into the call, in the
middle of the questioning,thomas took out a gun and shot

(04:05):
himself in the head.
Wow, wow.
That's a shame.
Now they're never going to haveany justice for her, probably.
So that means the 13 month oldis now 10, no 2020, probably 15,

(04:27):
right, because this is my math.
I do keith math.
Keith Math is probably betterthan my math.
If she died in 2010 and thebaby was 13 months old and now
we're 2025, that's 15 yearslater, right, okay, all right.
So moving on to the next story,fbi asks Americans to report

(04:47):
medical facilities thattransition gender confused kids.
Here's your chance to dosomething.
Here's your chance to takeaction.
We always say, well, there'snothing we can do.
Well, here you go.
So I know you don't.
No one wants to be a tattletale, but this is important.
The Federal Bureau ofInvestigation, fbi, is asking
Americans to report anythingthey know about medical

(05:08):
professionals who continue toperform life-altering gender
transition procedures onconfused children.
Within days of returning tooffice, president Donald Trump
signed an executive order.
Yeah, we know all that.
So help the FBI protectchildren.
The Bureau appealed on itsofficial X account on June 2nd.
I'll have to go back and findthat and retweet it.

(05:31):
As the Attorney General hasmade clear, we will protect our
children and hold accountablethose who mutilate them under
the guise of gender-affirmingcare.
It asks citizens to report tipsof any hospitals, clinics or
practitioners performing thesesurgical procedures on children
and they give a phone number.

(05:52):
So there you go.
25 states currently have lawsagainst subjecting minors Only
25.
Only 25 states.
But there is currently nofederal ban in place that the
federal government could enforce, because Congress and Senate

(06:12):
are sitting on their ass doingnothing.
They're not codifying theseexecutive orders.
So what do you do?
I guess you can call the FBItip.
So there you go.
There's that story All right,moving on.
Here we go Speaking of thistrans ideology stuff.
Nebraska governor signs lawbanning males from competing in

(06:35):
girls sports.
I guess, since the federal,senate, government, congress,
whatever like to sit on theirhands and do nothing except
drink cocktails, maybe atparties and schmooze and who
knows what else going up there,at least the governors are doing
something.
Nebraska Republican GovernorJim Pillen signed a new law on

(07:01):
Wednesday morning protectingfemale students from having to
compete against males insex-specific athletic programs
with women act states that ateam or sport designated for

(07:21):
females, women or girls shouldnot be open to male student.
This is a shame.
We have to have something likethis.
We actually already havesomething like this.
It's called title nine, butbiden and his administration
changed the language for it.
Who knows what else they did um.
So an interscholastic athleticprogram sponsored by or

(07:42):
competing with public schools,while a team or sport designated
for males, men or boys, shouldnot be open to female student
unless there is no female teamoffered or available for such a
sport.
So there you go.
He signed it, there you go.
He signed it, there you go.
I don't know what else to say.
All right, I had a good questionof the day and for some reason
it is escaping me.

(08:02):
Oh, yes, uh, here is thequestion of the day, but I feel
like I have to tee it up for youa little bit.
So this morning, every morning,every morning, my husband, the
gent, brings me coffee in bedbecause he gets it.
I just he likes it to do that.
You know we get up at threeo'clock in the morning, right,
so he gets up first, he goes outand gets, pours the coffee and

(08:25):
he brings it to me and we know.
And then he kisses me.
You know, good morning and allthat stuff.
And this morning he asked me, hesaid you like it when I do that
?
Right, when I kiss you in themorning, I'm like, of course I
do, and so.
But then I said something likeuh, oh, I asked him.

(08:45):
I said well, do you enjoy it ordo you just do it as a sense of
duty?
Because you're the man, you'rethe husband?
You just do it as a sense ofduty.
And he cracked up laughingbecause of my stupid question
and so he made funny commentabout yes, we men have a secret
dutiful list that we have to do.
And so my question I saidthat's my question of the day
you men out there, do you have asecret list of dutiful things

(09:07):
you have to do for to be a manand the husband in the, in the
family, what is your?
What is on your dutiful list?
I think I'm saying that right,all right, that's it.
I got to go.
Thanks for listening.
I hope you found that fun andentertaining the question.
Anyway, all right, I got to goLove y'all.
Thanks for listening, bye.