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September 6, 2025 61 mins

In this episode of An Hour of Innovation podcast, host Vit Lyoshin sits down with Ben Carle, CEO of FullStack Labs, to explore the real-world impact of AI in software development.

Ben is a PhD-trained computer scientist, engineering leader, and the driving force behind FullStack Labs, a software consultancy known for building AI-powered tools for enterprises that want scalable, modern applications.

Together, they unpack whether AI can truly replace engineers, how agentic AI is being used (and misunderstood), and what “code testing with AI” looks like in practice. Ben shares behind-the-scenes insights from FullStack’s internal AI systems, including a tool that now grades 80% of developer interviews, and how enterprise clients are adopting AI responsibly by starting with better data, stronger architecture, and measurable ROI.

Ben also shares practical lessons from the frontlines: how AI is transforming developer workflows, why junior engineers can't just "vibe code" with AI, and what engineering leaders need to know before integrating large language models into production environments.

With nearly a decade of experience scaling FullStack Labs, Ben brings a rare blend of technical depth and business clarity. His approach to AI adoption is grounded, ethical, and results-driven, making this episode a must-listen for engineers, product leaders, and founders navigating the future of software development.

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Takeaways

* AI helps senior devs, not replaces them.

* Agentic AI = smarter automation, not magic bots.

* AI testing is harder, so non-deterministic outcomes need new QA methods.

* FullStack's AI grades 80% of developer interviews.

* Enterprise clients focus on data readiness, not flashy tools.

* Proof-of-concept first: no ROI, no build.

* AI audits live phone calls for compliance more accurately than humans.

* Companies forget to capture training data from human workflows.

* AI is improving UX in complex spaces like healthcare.

* Vibe coding doesn’t work at enterprise scale.

* Trust in AI is growing, but slowly in large orgs.

Timestamps

00:00 Introduction

04:12 Ads

05:27 Navigating AI in Enterprise Solutions

06:38 Why Aren’t Enterprise Companies Jumping into AI

09:51 What Expertise Enterprises Lack

12:26 Quality Assurance in AI Applications

15:14 Internal AI Tools and Processes

18:08 How to Hire Developers

20:29 AI in Developer Assessment and Certification

21:42 AI is Changing Developers' Behavior

26:25 AI's Role in Software Design and Architecture

28:49 Use Cases and the Future of AI in Development

33:32 The Integration of AI in Software Development

41:12 Identifying Suitable Use Cases for AI

50:01 Navigating Challenges in AI Adoption

54:32 Preparing for the Future of AI

58:24 Agentic AI

Connect with Ben

* Website: https://www.fullstack.com/

* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bencarle/

Connect with Vit

* Website: https://vitlyoshin.com/contact/

* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vit-lyoshin/

* X: https://x.com/vitlyoshin

Vit’s Projects

* Podcast: https://www.anhourofinnovation.com/

* AI Assistant to build apps: https://appforgelab.com/

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