November 4, 2025 • 31 mins
And Another Thing With Dave, by Dave Smith
Episode: The Immigration Debate: Emotion, Law, and Logic
Host: Dave Smith
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In this episode, Dave Smith tackles the heated topic of immigration — exploring the tension between compassion and law. From California’s spending priorities to the global push between nationalism and globalism, Dave breaks down why conversations about immigration are so emotional and how to approach them with logic and reason. Tune in for a bold, independent take on one of today’s most divisive issues.
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(00:18):
Greetings fellow Earthlings and welcome to another.
Episode of. And another thing.
With Dave this episode. I'm talking about immigration,
the difference between legal andillegal immigration and how hard
it. Is to talk with.
Some people about this issue andI kind of want to drill down on
(00:41):
why. It's hard to talk to people
about this issue. What got me thinking about this
was a conversation with my mother.
Who is 88 years old? And she was.
Frustrated. That she's having trouble
getting through. To the food.
Stamps office, right? And, you know, we were agreeing
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that they're understaffed because of a lack of funding.
And I'm not a Trumper or anything, but I consider myself
a free thinker and an independent.
So apparently I heard a statistic recently that
California has spent $9 billion on healthcare in the last year
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alone, 2420. 5 for healthcare of.
Illegal immigrants. So if that's.
True. Well, a portion of that money
could have been spent to pump upthe food stamps program so that
they actually have somebody to answer the phone when you call
with a question, right, Which they don't.
You have to schedule. An in person appointment and it
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takes hours it's I mean they make it inconvenient so that
people won't use the system right and that would make sense
if there was no money for the funding and we're being told
there's no money for the fundinghowever, 9 billion for illegal
immigrant healthcare in a year and then we've.
Got all of these other fiascos that.
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Gavin Newsom has, you know, spent money on 24 billion on the
homeless crisis, right? There was a fund of 24 billion
for homeless. All that money got spent and
then there was a study done to see how much improvement was
made, and they couldn't notice any identifiable change.
(02:33):
So $24 billion spent and no measurable difference in the
number of homeless people. Hey Fairy G, how are you?
So that's horrible, right? My gut 24.
Billion dollars, then there's. The high speed.
Rail fiasco, that was. 23 billion.
Dollars of taxpayer. Money in California and I
believe. The federal.
Government put 100 billion in, so 123 billion there.
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All spent less than one mile of track laid.
And that's a huge corruption scandal involving a bunch of
politicians that made money off of it.
And then there is the water catchment fiasco, right?
Where? 7 billion.
Dollars was set aside. Into a fund.
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To catch excess. Rainwater in times of flooding,
right? So we have a problem in
California of droughts and floods.
So the idea was to to. Make a.
Little reservoirs off of off theside of rivers.
So if the river floods, it fillsup this these reservoirs, right?
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And you can prevent flooding anddamage to people's homes and.
Also, save that water. For the summer time when we need
it, because we don't get any rain from May through November
here in California. So it's really, really dry all
spring and summer. But none of those projects
happened. All that money got spent.
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Now we're being told 9 billion. Dollars for the healthcare.
Of immigration, immigrants, illegal immigrants, just in the
last year. So when I when my mom and I were
Hemming and hawing about there being no money, and I said,
well, you know, if we didn't spend 9 million on healthcare
for illegal immigrants, we couldhave spent some of that on our
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food stamp program. And then my mom says, well, I
don't agree with that because I'm a humanitarian.
So that's. What started my thought?
Process. My mom is voting against her own
best interest, voting for illegal immigrants, and she is
missing out on a program becauseof it, because there's no money.
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Because that money was spent on the illegal immigrants.
So this is a case of how did she?
Get manipulated to think of somebody else's interests.
Before her. Own right it's one thing to help
somebody like you know I'm I have humanitarian leanings as
well right and I don't think there's any reason for anybody
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in the world to be hungry or homeless you know I don't think
there's any reason for a billionaire to.
Exist as well. Right.
And if if there weren't any billionaires, there wouldn't be
any hungry people. Right, so there's that.
However, here we are today. In reality, operating We're a
country full of laws and unless we, you know, administer and
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enforce. These laws.
Then we don't have an ordered. Society.
Right. And every country has
immigration laws that they enforce, including Mexico and
Canada. You know, you can't just sneak
into Canada and hang out there without, you know, a passport.
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Same in Mexico. They'll they'll deport you,
right? Back home, right?
Like if I was found in Mexico with no passport, no paperwork,
blah blah blah. They would.
Send me right? Back to.
California, where I'm from, right every.
Country does that some. Countries will fine you like
10,000. Dollars because it costs.
Them money to deport you. Right to do the paperwork for
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the police. For the deportation, that all
cost money, right? And then some make.
It so expensive. That it's like a punishment.
Like in Russia you do jail time.An illegal immigrant caught in
Russia does jail time, right? So all we're talking.
About if. You know I don't condone sending
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non criminals. To jails, right?
And I, I hear that rhetoric. I don't know that that's true.
That may have happened by accident once or twice.
And that may happen because we're talking about millions of
people, right? Like apparently 12 million
people came through illegally under the Biden administration
alone just during that period. Isn't that wild?
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12 million. People so I.
Get the humanitarian aspect of we want to.
Help all people that's. One issue, the immigration issue
is another issue, right? And if you can't?
Look at it. Using reason and rationale and
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critical thinking. If you're like, oh, those poor
people, you have. To think of the law, you have to
think of the law if any country.Failed to.
Enforce its immigration, it would no longer be a country.
I mean, just think about it. If more and more and more people
start taking advantage. Of the benefits.
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But they're not paying into the system.
You're going to deplete the system.
It's common math. It's it's basic math.
So while I agree that we should expedite the immigration
process, absolutely it should be.
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You know it shouldn't. Take years to to legally.
Immigrate into the. US.
So by all means we should. Look at how we could streamline
the process. But we can't just open borders.
And among those 12 million people were two million, quote,
UN quote, got aways where they don't even know who.
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Or where these people are. And in this.
Chaos of this. Horrific program.
A bunch of children went missing.
Something like 80,000 children went missing because.
Of the lack of oversight. And and all.
Of this. It's unbelievable and now we're
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being told. That these people.
In some cases were being given social.
Security cards which? Would enable them to then get a
driver's license, which would enable them to register to vote.
So now you've got an illegal immigrant who can vote and a
Democratic president let them into the country.
So who do you think they're going to vote for?
They're going to vote for a Democrat.
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So now we're seeing. Why all this?
Happened right? Because with.
The exposure of USAID with doge exposing USAID.
We found out that Atlantic, PBS,Thomson Reuters and.
The Associated Press We're. All on the take from the
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Democratic Party and all from. USAID so.
Taking taxpayer money and that you know.
As payola. And then they would write pro
Democratic stories, right? So the Democratic Party has been
artificially. Propped up for who knows how.
Long and that's all starting to fall away and it's wild like
(09:55):
once again, I'm not a. Trumper, but it's wild to watch.
People's TDs come out and try toblame everything on Trump.
Right Like when here it. Is I did a.
Podcast in 2015 calling Obama the Republican Trojan horse.
You know a conservative Republican in sheep's clothing.
You know a. Wolf in sheep's.
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Clothing a conservative Republican in.
Blackface I called. It in 2015, now it's proven.
That that's the case. With the information 100
documents. That Tulsi Gabbard released.
Proving that Barack Obama. Was the ringleader.
Of a treasonous organization that created and.
(10:39):
Kept up the whole Russia gate hoax.
That kept, you know, the media on that.
For years, year five years, right?
Rachel Maddow for five years. Russia.
Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia.
Turns out it was. All orchestrated by Obama.
Paid for by Clinton. This is all proven now.
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It's not hearsay so. I I think the problem with the
immigration issue. Is it is a?
A heartbreaking issue when you see, you know, I can't imagine,
right? First of all, I can't imagine
sneaking into another country and then just hoping I don't
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get. Caught, that would be.
Terrifying, right? But then if I.
Did do that? I would try to assimilate right?
Like say I snuck into Mexico andyou know cuz I couldn't get
asylum for whatever reason. So I'm sneaking in right?
And we can have any back story you want I.
Could be a refugee, I could be whatever.
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But for some reason I wasn't able to get asylum, so I'm going
to sneak in, right? Well, I would try to assimilate
and try to become a Mexican citizen if.
That was at all possible. Right.
But we're hearing about people that have been here like 10
years and they apparently didn't.
They might have. Started the process.
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But they haven't become citizens.
So while I get it. It's.
Heartbreaking on the humanistic.Level right because each.
Person, there's a. Story with each.
Person, right? We have to look at it from a
legal perspective. Otherwise, our country.
Would cease to exist. Any country would cease to exist
without enforced borders, right?So it's not, there's nothing
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racist or, you know, anything like that about it.
I think every country should do.This right like look at the UK.
Right now they're falling into shambles.
Because of. And and this and it's weird.
Right, this is forced. Migration, right?
So first. Of all.
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The United States and Israel arecausing all.
These wars, they're. Causing all of these refugees to
begin with, right? But then instead of them going
to countries nearby, right? Like why aren't people from the
Middle East going to the UK? Why aren't they going to other
countries within the Middle Eastright?
Why isn't? Dubai and Saudi Arabia.
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And other countries, Qatar taking them in.
And the same thing with Africa. Why are people from Africa
coming all the way over to the UK?
Why aren't other countries within Africa taking them in
like? Right.
So that's a whole story that. I've never even heard any
reporter talk about right Because you would think you'd
want the neighboring countries to be helping, right?
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Like, you know, like like say Mexico or say we needed, you
know, a bunch of us were fleeingin the United.
States we would hope. That Canada and Mexico.
Would take. Some of us in, if not Central
and South America, right? We it would be weird to all of a
sudden. Be like I'm going to Europe.
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Right. Why would you go all the way
across the world? I just.
Thought of this now as I'm talking this through and talking
about how certain things don't make sense in this immigration
discussion. This is one of them.
Why are people going so? Far.
Well, that that. Gives weight to the.
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Argument that George Soros has organized this right.
Because I haven't, I haven't verified.
This but I did hear a somewhat reputable.
Source online say that. George Soros.
Had there had been a 5 point plan leaked online?
By George Soros to. Overwhelm the countries.
Of the West. The nations of the West with
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immigration, including paying for the boats, paying for the
transportation and paying for aninitial debit card upon arrival.
But once again, I have not verified that.
So that's no more than hearsay at this point, but it kind of
backs that up, right? The.
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Fact that the neighboring countries are not.
Absorbing these refugees seeking.
Asylum kind of backs that up, right?
Why? Are these people?
Going across the world, maybe they're being paid to, maybe
they got free transport to France, UK, Germany, Scotland,
Ireland. All these places that are that
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are just totally. Being overwhelmed with
immigration right now and you can even see it on on on online.
There's there will be videos of people on the.
Beach and all of a sudden. A boat pulls.
Up and 15 dudes just take off running and then the boat leaves
again like wow, OK here's AuntieTT.
(15:38):
And another thing. Hi, just thought that we'll see
what's up. Hopefully you're having a
wonderful day today. Thank you girl.
You. Too.
I hope you are having a wonderful day as well.
I'm. Having a pretty good.
Day. Yeah, so.
I was talking with my mother andshe's on she's in a low income
housing apartment right? She's lucky it's brand new and
(16:02):
she's on the 3rd place it's. Beautiful place, but she's super
lucky, right? She's in a low income place and
it's own and her only income is Social Security so and it's only
30% of our social. Security to live there.
So it's a percentage of your income, right?
So she's super lucky and she's on food stamps.
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But she's such, she's so liberal.
I was raised. Liberal my whole life, right?
I'm a feminist. I got.
Two sisters. And a mom and a brother.
And I was raised by my mom. I'm a feminist, but I'm not a
man hating feminist, right? But I'm a realist also.
Right. And you have to be.
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Able to separate the. Humanistic story from.
The. Argument from the legal argument
when you're talking about immigration, they're two totally
different things. They're apples and oranges.
And if you allow. Yourself to get all choked.
Up about the individuals in the stories, then.
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You'll never be for. Enforcing the law because.
There's a bunch of. Heartbreaking stories within.
That policy, however, who? Are you going to?
Put first yourself or. Somebody that's not even a
citizen of your country, like, I'm not against helping, I'm not
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against foreign aid. But we have a 30. $6 trillion
debt right now and our country is in the toilet.
I mean, you know, we need to work on ourselves.
Flint, MI still doesn't have drinkable.
Water. What are we doing?
Opening our borders to all the needy.
People of the. World, that's insanity.
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And once again, I'm it's not that I'm not caring.
It's. This is a.
This is a. Argument in this is an exercise
in logic and reason. Right, so I would propose this.
Question to anybody who's sayingthat I'm being calloused.
Why are these? Refugees who are seeking asylum,
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why are they not being? Absorbed by the closest.
Countries to the country that they're fleeing, why are they
going? Across the world, that's
suspicious. That leads me to think that it
is not as it. Appears.
Right. That we're not being told.
The whole story, that. There is more.
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To this story. That they don't want us to know
which is that. It's a.
Globalist operation to overwhelmthe nations of the West with
immigration, because then all those people are going to vote
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Democrat or the equivalent. Of the vote Liberal.
So then, the liberal people? Liberal.
Politicians get to stay in power.
Because there's a. Wave going right.
This country, the United States,the pendulum swung back to the
right overwhelmingly in the lastelection.
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It's done the same thing in Hungary, in Poland, in Italy, in
Ireland, Colin. McGregor's.
Going to run for Irish presidentand he's running on a on a
platform of make Ireland great again.
So. Internationally, there's a
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movement towards nationalism. Now nationalism has gotten a bad
name because people think it's. Bad because of the.
You know, national. Socialist Party of.
Germany in the world? War 2 that has.
Nothing to do with nationalism. Nationalism.
Just. Means you put your.
Country first. We're not talking about extreme
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nationalists. We're not talking about
extremists. Nationalism is.
Just the opposite of. Globalism.
So you're you're for either. You're for one or the other.
You can't be for neither. You are either for.
Globalism or you're for nationalism by default.
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If you're not for globalism, then you are for nationalism,
whether you know it or not. And what all nationalism means
is that each country. Puts itself.
And its citizens first in every consideration, right?
Not that they become isolationists.
Not that they. Become, you know, separatists.
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And and and and removed from youknow.
World political order. No, it just means.
That you put your. Country and your people 1st and
there's nothing wrong with that,it makes sense.
Really, right? Look at Norway.
Look at. Sweden, look at Finland, look at
Denmark, where they have a really high.
All these countries have a really high standard of living.
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They don't get involved on the international stage, spending a
bunch of money on the. Military like we do.
Right, they're not out there being being the.
World's police. You know whether you think we're
doing good. Or bad.
We're spending a ton of money doing it and.
What gives us the right to do itright?
Who elected us? The cops of the world.
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Nobody did. There's NATO for that.
NATO and the United Nations, right?
So you're either for. Globalism or you're for
nationalism. It's that simple, right?
So nationalism, nationalism has been given a white a bad name.
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It's been linked with things like white nationalism,
Christian nationalism. White.
Christian nationalism, right, extremists, right?
But we're not talking about that.
We're just talking about, you know, do you want to open up
quote UN quote free market trade, which benefits the
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globalists, or do you want to keep things in your country and
handle things as must as as mostas in house as possible, right?
Produce as many goods that you consume in house as possible.
That just makes sense. That's just good economics,
right? As soon as you're importing more
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than you're exporting, then you're you're you're in a place
of weakness. Because of that deficit.
You're reliant on other nations.Right.
And we're, we're, we've been convinced, you know, Oh, well,
you don't. You like?
That cheap T-shirt. Don't you like that?
Cheap pair of socks. Yeah, then you're for globalism,
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right, 'cause you like Walmart and everything coming from Sri
Lanka or China or Bangladesh. Doesn't matter that those people
are paid $0.10 an hour. It doesn't matter that we don't
have any more manufacturing in the United States and we have a
whole region of our country. Called the Rust Belt.
In the center of the country. Which is filled with.
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Rusting factories and warehouses.
That used to be the. Heartbeat of our country thanks
to Bill Clinton. That was all liquefied under the
NAFTA agreement, North American Free Trade Agreement.
There was this guy. What was his name?
Ross Perot from Texas. He was running against Bill
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Clinton for president, and he said.
If you elect. This man, he's going to pass
NAFTA and you're going to hear agiant sucking sound that's going
to be all our jobs going South. And he was.
Absolutely right. 100% right nowwe have the.
Rust Belt. Instead of our thriving
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manufacturing sector, we have, you know, next to Elon Musk and
a couple steel companies that. That supply steel for cars we.
Don't have much manufacturing atall.
We don't manufacture any solar panels in this country.
We don't manufacture computer. Chips, we have silicon.
Valley in this country, but we don't manufacture the computer
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chips. That's insane.
Why would we not be? That's that's not only is that
insane, but it's a national security risk.
Right, which is why we care. About Taiwan, it's the only
reason we care about Taiwan. They manufacture.
The chips. So we have to like, so we have
to be. Posturing with China to defend
our chip manufacturer. Because we were so.
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Stupid and. To let these greedy companies
outsource to the cheapest. Place instead of staying,
instead of saying no, you're American companies, you, you
have to have an American footprint.
Period. Or we're not going to protect.
You with our military. Good luck.
You know, it's that simple. So anyway, let me know what you
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folks down there. Thank Fairy G, Auntie TT and
Shruth Serum. What's going on?
Happy. Friday to you all, let me know.
What you folks think about the immigration issue, I think it's,
I think there's two conversations that.
Have to be had. It's hard.
One is emotional. Oh, it's.
Heartbreaking to see you know people get split.
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From their loved ones. I can't imagine having to move,
you know, being ripped out of a country that I've lived in for
10 years. That's one conversation that has
to happen. But the other conversation.
That has to happen. Is about the law.
And how you cannot maintain a country without maintaining?
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Borders. And the rule of.
Law. Without those two things, you no
longer have a country, right? And the problem.
With a lot of these liberals whoare just.
You know, just on the emotional end of this conversation is that
they don't. See that there?
Has been a concerted effort on aglobal scale.
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To. Bleed our country dry.
That's why the federal. Reserve that prints our money is
owned by the world's seven biggest banks.
They loan US money instead of we, instead of us being to
print, you know, being able to print our own money, we have to
borrow money from them. Every president.
Who's ever tried to? Change that.
Has either ended up dead? Or they attempted right?
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So. That's why we're 36.
Trillion dollars in debt that and we have a bunch of.
Psychopaths in the. Pentagon and in the White House
and the capital that keep spending, spending, spending
because they're trying to bleed us dry.
They're trying to crash our country.
Because if we go bankrupt, then they can usher in a central bank
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digital currency that gives themultimate control over every
citizen. And they can turn off your bank
account like the. Flip of a light switch.
And they tried. This and did it successfully.
During The Canadian. Trucker strike during COVID?
You guys remember? There was a big a bunch of
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truckers. United and wouldn't move and
they were just. Blocking the roadways.
A bunch of them went into downtown Ontario and just
parked. So.
So they just brought the city toA to a.
Screeching halt and they did thesame thing on the freeways.
Well, the government freaked outand froze their bank accounts.
So these people couldn't buy? Food or anything.
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So there's a. People that were.
Supporting them had to bring them food and water and stuff
like that. Crazy.
So that was a. Dry run.
By the globalists to see will. People, you know, take arms and
and and come out into the. Streets with.
Guns if we turn off their bank accounts.
Nope. No they didn't.
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There were no riots. OK.
The sheeple fell for it, so thatwas a.
Test run and it worked. So you have to.
Look at all of the stars. In a constellation, right, you
say have. To see the bigger picture if we
focus on each star. Not that each star isn't
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important, but you don't see thebigger.
Picture right and well. It's the same thing with the
immigration issue if you. If we just focus.
On how heartbreaking it is for that poor person.
Who was here for? 10 years and then got.
Deported. Well, well, how about we just
flip this, Flip our? Viewpoint a little bit.
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They were here 10 years. Why didn't they apply to become
a citizen? Yeah.
And then I and then I put myselfin their shoes like.
What would it take? I mean, man, that I mean that's.
I can relate. That's brutal to to to be at the
place where you're. Willing to leave your country
and go to another place and hope.
You don't get caught. They must have.
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Had a hard time in their countryand I do want to help.
Those people so we. Can improve our immigration.
Process. We can make it much faster than
it is currently, but that doesn't mean that you just let
anybody in and that you. Let in people that.
When you don't even know who they.
Are without even. Filling out an application, just
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charging the gates. Oh hell no.
Absolute crazy time. But.
It's so hard to. Have this conversation because
people. Get.
Stuck in the emotion of it, and I get that.
I get that. But you have to be able to
separate. You have to be able to look at
it with logic and reason like OK.
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Yeah. That's right, if we open the
border. What would prevent everybody in
the world from coming here to take advantage of, you know,
the. Quality of life the.
Social benefits, you know, you know all that.
And then you, you know, and thenthat would deplete the benefits,
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so they would no longer be available to anybody.
Right. So that's what's happening.
All right, that's it. For Part 1 of 6, tune in the
next. Episode Part 2 of 6/6 part.
Series Democrats and Immigration, All right.
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Greetings fellow Earthlings and welcome to another.
Episode of. And another thing.
With Dave this episode. I'm talking about immigration,
the difference between legal andillegal immigration and how hard
it. Is to talk with.
Some people about this issue andI kind of want to drill down on
(00:41):
why. It's hard to talk to people
about this issue. What got me thinking about this
was a conversation with my mother.
Who is 88 years old? And she was.
Frustrated. That she's having trouble
getting through. To the food.
Stamps office, right? And, you know, we were agreeing
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that they're understaffed because of a lack of funding.
And I'm not a Trumper or anything, but I consider myself
a free thinker and an independent.
So apparently I heard a statistic recently that
California has spent $9 billion on healthcare in the last year
(01:26):
alone, 2420. 5 for healthcare of.
Illegal immigrants. So if that's.
True. Well, a portion of that money
could have been spent to pump upthe food stamps program so that
they actually have somebody to answer the phone when you call
with a question, right, Which they don't.
You have to schedule. An in person appointment and it
(01:49):
takes hours it's I mean they make it inconvenient so that
people won't use the system right and that would make sense
if there was no money for the funding and we're being told
there's no money for the fundinghowever, 9 billion for illegal
immigrant healthcare in a year and then we've.
Got all of these other fiascos that.
(02:11):
Gavin Newsom has, you know, spent money on 24 billion on the
homeless crisis, right? There was a fund of 24 billion
for homeless. All that money got spent and
then there was a study done to see how much improvement was
made, and they couldn't notice any identifiable change.
(02:33):
So $24 billion spent and no measurable difference in the
number of homeless people. Hey Fairy G, how are you?
So that's horrible, right? My gut 24.
Billion dollars, then there's. The high speed.
Rail fiasco, that was. 23 billion.
Dollars of taxpayer. Money in California and I
believe. The federal.
Government put 100 billion in, so 123 billion there.
(02:58):
All spent less than one mile of track laid.
And that's a huge corruption scandal involving a bunch of
politicians that made money off of it.
And then there is the water catchment fiasco, right?
Where? 7 billion.
Dollars was set aside. Into a fund.
(03:19):
To catch excess. Rainwater in times of flooding,
right? So we have a problem in
California of droughts and floods.
So the idea was to to. Make a.
Little reservoirs off of off theside of rivers.
So if the river floods, it fillsup this these reservoirs, right?
(03:41):
And you can prevent flooding anddamage to people's homes and.
Also, save that water. For the summer time when we need
it, because we don't get any rain from May through November
here in California. So it's really, really dry all
spring and summer. But none of those projects
happened. All that money got spent.
(04:01):
Now we're being told 9 billion. Dollars for the healthcare.
Of immigration, immigrants, illegal immigrants, just in the
last year. So when I when my mom and I were
Hemming and hawing about there being no money, and I said,
well, you know, if we didn't spend 9 million on healthcare
for illegal immigrants, we couldhave spent some of that on our
(04:22):
food stamp program. And then my mom says, well, I
don't agree with that because I'm a humanitarian.
So that's. What started my thought?
Process. My mom is voting against her own
best interest, voting for illegal immigrants, and she is
missing out on a program becauseof it, because there's no money.
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Because that money was spent on the illegal immigrants.
So this is a case of how did she?
Get manipulated to think of somebody else's interests.
Before her. Own right it's one thing to help
somebody like you know I'm I have humanitarian leanings as
well right and I don't think there's any reason for anybody
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in the world to be hungry or homeless you know I don't think
there's any reason for a billionaire to.
Exist as well. Right.
And if if there weren't any billionaires, there wouldn't be
any hungry people. Right, so there's that.
However, here we are today. In reality, operating We're a
country full of laws and unless we, you know, administer and
(05:26):
enforce. These laws.
Then we don't have an ordered. Society.
Right. And every country has
immigration laws that they enforce, including Mexico and
Canada. You know, you can't just sneak
into Canada and hang out there without, you know, a passport.
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Same in Mexico. They'll they'll deport you,
right? Back home, right?
Like if I was found in Mexico with no passport, no paperwork,
blah blah blah. They would.
Send me right? Back to.
California, where I'm from, right every.
Country does that some. Countries will fine you like
10,000. Dollars because it costs.
Them money to deport you. Right to do the paperwork for
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the police. For the deportation, that all
cost money, right? And then some make.
It so expensive. That it's like a punishment.
Like in Russia you do jail time.An illegal immigrant caught in
Russia does jail time, right? So all we're talking.
About if. You know I don't condone sending
(06:31):
non criminals. To jails, right?
And I, I hear that rhetoric. I don't know that that's true.
That may have happened by accident once or twice.
And that may happen because we're talking about millions of
people, right? Like apparently 12 million
people came through illegally under the Biden administration
alone just during that period. Isn't that wild?
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12 million. People so I.
Get the humanitarian aspect of we want to.
Help all people that's. One issue, the immigration issue
is another issue, right? And if you can't?
Look at it. Using reason and rationale and
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critical thinking. If you're like, oh, those poor
people, you have. To think of the law, you have to
think of the law if any country.Failed to.
Enforce its immigration, it would no longer be a country.
I mean, just think about it. If more and more and more people
start taking advantage. Of the benefits.
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But they're not paying into the system.
You're going to deplete the system.
It's common math. It's it's basic math.
So while I agree that we should expedite the immigration
process, absolutely it should be.
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You know it shouldn't. Take years to to legally.
Immigrate into the. US.
So by all means we should. Look at how we could streamline
the process. But we can't just open borders.
And among those 12 million people were two million, quote,
UN quote, got aways where they don't even know who.
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Or where these people are. And in this.
Chaos of this. Horrific program.
A bunch of children went missing.
Something like 80,000 children went missing because.
Of the lack of oversight. And and all.
Of this. It's unbelievable and now we're
(08:46):
being told. That these people.
In some cases were being given social.
Security cards which? Would enable them to then get a
driver's license, which would enable them to register to vote.
So now you've got an illegal immigrant who can vote and a
Democratic president let them into the country.
So who do you think they're going to vote for?
They're going to vote for a Democrat.
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So now we're seeing. Why all this?
Happened right? Because with.
The exposure of USAID with doge exposing USAID.
We found out that Atlantic, PBS,Thomson Reuters and.
The Associated Press We're. All on the take from the
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Democratic Party and all from. USAID so.
Taking taxpayer money and that you know.
As payola. And then they would write pro
Democratic stories, right? So the Democratic Party has been
artificially. Propped up for who knows how.
Long and that's all starting to fall away and it's wild like
(09:55):
once again, I'm not a. Trumper, but it's wild to watch.
People's TDs come out and try toblame everything on Trump.
Right Like when here it. Is I did a.
Podcast in 2015 calling Obama the Republican Trojan horse.
You know a conservative Republican in sheep's clothing.
You know a. Wolf in sheep's.
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Clothing a conservative Republican in.
Blackface I called. It in 2015, now it's proven.
That that's the case. With the information 100
documents. That Tulsi Gabbard released.
Proving that Barack Obama. Was the ringleader.
Of a treasonous organization that created and.
(10:39):
Kept up the whole Russia gate hoax.
That kept, you know, the media on that.
For years, year five years, right?
Rachel Maddow for five years. Russia.
Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia.
Turns out it was. All orchestrated by Obama.
Paid for by Clinton. This is all proven now.
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It's not hearsay so. I I think the problem with the
immigration issue. Is it is a?
A heartbreaking issue when you see, you know, I can't imagine,
right? First of all, I can't imagine
sneaking into another country and then just hoping I don't
(11:24):
get. Caught, that would be.
Terrifying, right? But then if I.
Did do that? I would try to assimilate right?
Like say I snuck into Mexico andyou know cuz I couldn't get
asylum for whatever reason. So I'm sneaking in right?
And we can have any back story you want I.
Could be a refugee, I could be whatever.
(11:45):
But for some reason I wasn't able to get asylum, so I'm going
to sneak in, right? Well, I would try to assimilate
and try to become a Mexican citizen if.
That was at all possible. Right.
But we're hearing about people that have been here like 10
years and they apparently didn't.
They might have. Started the process.
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But they haven't become citizens.
So while I get it. It's.
Heartbreaking on the humanistic.Level right because each.
Person, there's a. Story with each.
Person, right? We have to look at it from a
legal perspective. Otherwise, our country.
Would cease to exist. Any country would cease to exist
without enforced borders, right?So it's not, there's nothing
(12:28):
racist or, you know, anything like that about it.
I think every country should do.This right like look at the UK.
Right now they're falling into shambles.
Because of. And and this and it's weird.
Right, this is forced. Migration, right?
So first. Of all.
(12:48):
The United States and Israel arecausing all.
These wars, they're. Causing all of these refugees to
begin with, right? But then instead of them going
to countries nearby, right? Like why aren't people from the
Middle East going to the UK? Why aren't they going to other
countries within the Middle Eastright?
Why isn't? Dubai and Saudi Arabia.
(13:09):
And other countries, Qatar taking them in.
And the same thing with Africa. Why are people from Africa
coming all the way over to the UK?
Why aren't other countries within Africa taking them in
like? Right.
So that's a whole story that. I've never even heard any
reporter talk about right Because you would think you'd
want the neighboring countries to be helping, right?
(13:30):
Like, you know, like like say Mexico or say we needed, you
know, a bunch of us were fleeingin the United.
States we would hope. That Canada and Mexico.
Would take. Some of us in, if not Central
and South America, right? We it would be weird to all of a
sudden. Be like I'm going to Europe.
(13:50):
Right. Why would you go all the way
across the world? I just.
Thought of this now as I'm talking this through and talking
about how certain things don't make sense in this immigration
discussion. This is one of them.
Why are people going so? Far.
Well, that that. Gives weight to the.
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Argument that George Soros has organized this right.
Because I haven't, I haven't verified.
This but I did hear a somewhat reputable.
Source online say that. George Soros.
Had there had been a 5 point plan leaked online?
By George Soros to. Overwhelm the countries.
Of the West. The nations of the West with
(14:31):
immigration, including paying for the boats, paying for the
transportation and paying for aninitial debit card upon arrival.
But once again, I have not verified that.
So that's no more than hearsay at this point, but it kind of
backs that up, right? The.
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Fact that the neighboring countries are not.
Absorbing these refugees seeking.
Asylum kind of backs that up, right?
Why? Are these people?
Going across the world, maybe they're being paid to, maybe
they got free transport to France, UK, Germany, Scotland,
Ireland. All these places that are that
(15:15):
are just totally. Being overwhelmed with
immigration right now and you can even see it on on on online.
There's there will be videos of people on the.
Beach and all of a sudden. A boat pulls.
Up and 15 dudes just take off running and then the boat leaves
again like wow, OK here's AuntieTT.
(15:38):
And another thing. Hi, just thought that we'll see
what's up. Hopefully you're having a
wonderful day today. Thank you girl.
You. Too.
I hope you are having a wonderful day as well.
I'm. Having a pretty good.
Day. Yeah, so.
I was talking with my mother andshe's on she's in a low income
housing apartment right? She's lucky it's brand new and
(16:02):
she's on the 3rd place it's. Beautiful place, but she's super
lucky, right? She's in a low income place and
it's own and her only income is Social Security so and it's only
30% of our social. Security to live there.
So it's a percentage of your income, right?
So she's super lucky and she's on food stamps.
(16:24):
But she's such, she's so liberal.
I was raised. Liberal my whole life, right?
I'm a feminist. I got.
Two sisters. And a mom and a brother.
And I was raised by my mom. I'm a feminist, but I'm not a
man hating feminist, right? But I'm a realist also.
Right. And you have to be.
(16:49):
Able to separate the. Humanistic story from.
The. Argument from the legal argument
when you're talking about immigration, they're two totally
different things. They're apples and oranges.
And if you allow. Yourself to get all choked.
Up about the individuals in the stories, then.
(17:09):
You'll never be for. Enforcing the law because.
There's a bunch of. Heartbreaking stories within.
That policy, however, who? Are you going to?
Put first yourself or. Somebody that's not even a
citizen of your country, like, I'm not against helping, I'm not
(17:30):
against foreign aid. But we have a 30. $6 trillion
debt right now and our country is in the toilet.
I mean, you know, we need to work on ourselves.
Flint, MI still doesn't have drinkable.
Water. What are we doing?
Opening our borders to all the needy.
People of the. World, that's insanity.
(17:54):
And once again, I'm it's not that I'm not caring.
It's. This is a.
This is a. Argument in this is an exercise
in logic and reason. Right, so I would propose this.
Question to anybody who's sayingthat I'm being calloused.
Why are these? Refugees who are seeking asylum,
(18:15):
why are they not being? Absorbed by the closest.
Countries to the country that they're fleeing, why are they
going? Across the world, that's
suspicious. That leads me to think that it
is not as it. Appears.
Right. That we're not being told.
The whole story, that. There is more.
(18:36):
To this story. That they don't want us to know
which is that. It's a.
Globalist operation to overwhelmthe nations of the West with
immigration, because then all those people are going to vote
(18:56):
Democrat or the equivalent. Of the vote Liberal.
So then, the liberal people? Liberal.
Politicians get to stay in power.
Because there's a. Wave going right.
This country, the United States,the pendulum swung back to the
right overwhelmingly in the lastelection.
(19:18):
It's done the same thing in Hungary, in Poland, in Italy, in
Ireland, Colin. McGregor's.
Going to run for Irish presidentand he's running on a on a
platform of make Ireland great again.
So. Internationally, there's a
(19:40):
movement towards nationalism. Now nationalism has gotten a bad
name because people think it's. Bad because of the.
You know, national. Socialist Party of.
Germany in the world? War 2 that has.
Nothing to do with nationalism. Nationalism.
Just. Means you put your.
Country first. We're not talking about extreme
(20:04):
nationalists. We're not talking about
extremists. Nationalism is.
Just the opposite of. Globalism.
So you're you're for either. You're for one or the other.
You can't be for neither. You are either for.
Globalism or you're for nationalism by default.
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If you're not for globalism, then you are for nationalism,
whether you know it or not. And what all nationalism means
is that each country. Puts itself.
And its citizens first in every consideration, right?
Not that they become isolationists.
Not that they. Become, you know, separatists.
(20:46):
And and and and removed from youknow.
World political order. No, it just means.
That you put your. Country and your people 1st and
there's nothing wrong with that,it makes sense.
Really, right? Look at Norway.
Look at. Sweden, look at Finland, look at
Denmark, where they have a really high.
All these countries have a really high standard of living.
(21:09):
They don't get involved on the international stage, spending a
bunch of money on the. Military like we do.
Right, they're not out there being being the.
World's police. You know whether you think we're
doing good. Or bad.
We're spending a ton of money doing it and.
What gives us the right to do itright?
Who elected us? The cops of the world.
(21:32):
Nobody did. There's NATO for that.
NATO and the United Nations, right?
So you're either for. Globalism or you're for
nationalism. It's that simple, right?
So nationalism, nationalism has been given a white a bad name.
(21:53):
It's been linked with things like white nationalism,
Christian nationalism. White.
Christian nationalism, right, extremists, right?
But we're not talking about that.
We're just talking about, you know, do you want to open up
quote UN quote free market trade, which benefits the
(22:14):
globalists, or do you want to keep things in your country and
handle things as must as as mostas in house as possible, right?
Produce as many goods that you consume in house as possible.
That just makes sense. That's just good economics,
right? As soon as you're importing more
(22:37):
than you're exporting, then you're you're you're in a place
of weakness. Because of that deficit.
You're reliant on other nations.Right.
And we're, we're, we've been convinced, you know, Oh, well,
you don't. You like?
That cheap T-shirt. Don't you like that?
Cheap pair of socks. Yeah, then you're for globalism,
(22:59):
right, 'cause you like Walmart and everything coming from Sri
Lanka or China or Bangladesh. Doesn't matter that those people
are paid $0.10 an hour. It doesn't matter that we don't
have any more manufacturing in the United States and we have a
whole region of our country. Called the Rust Belt.
In the center of the country. Which is filled with.
(23:20):
Rusting factories and warehouses.
That used to be the. Heartbeat of our country thanks
to Bill Clinton. That was all liquefied under the
NAFTA agreement, North American Free Trade Agreement.
There was this guy. What was his name?
Ross Perot from Texas. He was running against Bill
(23:43):
Clinton for president, and he said.
If you elect. This man, he's going to pass
NAFTA and you're going to hear agiant sucking sound that's going
to be all our jobs going South. And he was.
Absolutely right. 100% right nowwe have the.
Rust Belt. Instead of our thriving
(24:04):
manufacturing sector, we have, you know, next to Elon Musk and
a couple steel companies that. That supply steel for cars we.
Don't have much manufacturing atall.
We don't manufacture any solar panels in this country.
We don't manufacture computer. Chips, we have silicon.
Valley in this country, but we don't manufacture the computer
(24:27):
chips. That's insane.
Why would we not be? That's that's not only is that
insane, but it's a national security risk.
Right, which is why we care. About Taiwan, it's the only
reason we care about Taiwan. They manufacture.
The chips. So we have to like, so we have
to be. Posturing with China to defend
our chip manufacturer. Because we were so.
(24:48):
Stupid and. To let these greedy companies
outsource to the cheapest. Place instead of staying,
instead of saying no, you're American companies, you, you
have to have an American footprint.
Period. Or we're not going to protect.
You with our military. Good luck.
You know, it's that simple. So anyway, let me know what you
(25:15):
folks down there. Thank Fairy G, Auntie TT and
Shruth Serum. What's going on?
Happy. Friday to you all, let me know.
What you folks think about the immigration issue, I think it's,
I think there's two conversations that.
Have to be had. It's hard.
One is emotional. Oh, it's.
Heartbreaking to see you know people get split.
(25:38):
From their loved ones. I can't imagine having to move,
you know, being ripped out of a country that I've lived in for
10 years. That's one conversation that has
to happen. But the other conversation.
That has to happen. Is about the law.
And how you cannot maintain a country without maintaining?
(26:02):
Borders. And the rule of.
Law. Without those two things, you no
longer have a country, right? And the problem.
With a lot of these liberals whoare just.
You know, just on the emotional end of this conversation is that
they don't. See that there?
Has been a concerted effort on aglobal scale.
(26:25):
To. Bleed our country dry.
That's why the federal. Reserve that prints our money is
owned by the world's seven biggest banks.
They loan US money instead of we, instead of us being to
print, you know, being able to print our own money, we have to
borrow money from them. Every president.
Who's ever tried to? Change that.
Has either ended up dead? Or they attempted right?
(26:49):
So. That's why we're 36.
Trillion dollars in debt that and we have a bunch of.
Psychopaths in the. Pentagon and in the White House
and the capital that keep spending, spending, spending
because they're trying to bleed us dry.
They're trying to crash our country.
Because if we go bankrupt, then they can usher in a central bank
(27:10):
digital currency that gives themultimate control over every
citizen. And they can turn off your bank
account like the. Flip of a light switch.
And they tried. This and did it successfully.
During The Canadian. Trucker strike during COVID?
You guys remember? There was a big a bunch of
(27:31):
truckers. United and wouldn't move and
they were just. Blocking the roadways.
A bunch of them went into downtown Ontario and just
parked. So.
So they just brought the city toA to a.
Screeching halt and they did thesame thing on the freeways.
Well, the government freaked outand froze their bank accounts.
So these people couldn't buy? Food or anything.
(27:52):
So there's a. People that were.
Supporting them had to bring them food and water and stuff
like that. Crazy.
So that was a. Dry run.
By the globalists to see will. People, you know, take arms and
and and come out into the. Streets with.
Guns if we turn off their bank accounts.
Nope. No they didn't.
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There were no riots. OK.
The sheeple fell for it, so thatwas a.
Test run and it worked. So you have to.
Look at all of the stars. In a constellation, right, you
say have. To see the bigger picture if we
focus on each star. Not that each star isn't
(28:36):
important, but you don't see thebigger.
Picture right and well. It's the same thing with the
immigration issue if you. If we just focus.
On how heartbreaking it is for that poor person.
Who was here for? 10 years and then got.
Deported. Well, well, how about we just
flip this, Flip our? Viewpoint a little bit.
(28:58):
They were here 10 years. Why didn't they apply to become
a citizen? Yeah.
And then I and then I put myselfin their shoes like.
What would it take? I mean, man, that I mean that's.
I can relate. That's brutal to to to be at the
place where you're. Willing to leave your country
and go to another place and hope.
You don't get caught. They must have.
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Had a hard time in their countryand I do want to help.
Those people so we. Can improve our immigration.
Process. We can make it much faster than
it is currently, but that doesn't mean that you just let
anybody in and that you. Let in people that.
When you don't even know who they.
Are without even. Filling out an application, just
(29:41):
charging the gates. Oh hell no.
Absolute crazy time. But.
It's so hard to. Have this conversation because
people. Get.
Stuck in the emotion of it, and I get that.
I get that. But you have to be able to
separate. You have to be able to look at
it with logic and reason like OK.
(30:02):
Yeah. That's right, if we open the
border. What would prevent everybody in
the world from coming here to take advantage of, you know,
the. Quality of life the.
Social benefits, you know, you know all that.
And then you, you know, and thenthat would deplete the benefits,
(30:24):
so they would no longer be available to anybody.
Right. So that's what's happening.
All right, that's it. For Part 1 of 6, tune in the
next. Episode Part 2 of 6/6 part.
Series Democrats and Immigration, All right.
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