December 25, 2024 • 55 mins
Episode 136: Modi and Periel are joined by Aaron Smolyar of The CLEO Initiative (Computer Literacy Education Outreach), an organization that assists seniors with navigating today’s tech-reliant world. Check out their website here.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to and here's Modi.
Hi everybody, and welcome toand here's Modi.
We are in the studio today, me,periel, and a very, very, very,
very, very, very special guest,aaron Smulyar Smulyar Smuliar
Smuliar.
(00:23):
Those of you who aren'twatching this, I can't say that
it's an 18-year-old student fromPenn, you, penn.
I found him online, sent it toyou, you got him to come here.
He is the founder of a programcalled Chloe Cleo Cleo.
No, the whole time I haven'tbeen getting it right and, of
(00:43):
course, now I'm not going to getit right.
Chloe Cleo Cleo.
Yeah, cleo.
No, the whole time I haven'tbeen getting it right.
And of course, now I'm not goingto get it right either, cleo,
yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
The Cleo initiative Cleo.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
The Cleo initiative, and when I saw it, I was on a
flight and I perked up.
I couldn't believe this ishappening.
This is what I'm talking about.
You, in broad strokes, you goin to old age homes and you help
seniors with their devices,with their phones, iPads,
(01:16):
whatever technology.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
So Clio stands for Computer Literacy Education,
Outreach Computer LiteracyEducation.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Outreach, yeah, computer literacy education.
Outreach Computer literacyeducation outreach yeah.
And you guys go into this oldage homes and senior living I
don't know what the right way tosay it is, I was just thinking
and people who just arechallenged with.
And let me tell you something Ihave always said that because
you know.
Now I'm at a point where I dolike I speak to Hillels and all
kinds of youth groups, as youknow, just because it's easier
(01:45):
to bring me as a speaker ratherthan to hire me as a comedian,
and cheaper.
So the young kids ask me likeyou know, hey, what's like?
How do you know what your goalin life is?
So I always tell millennials andGen Zs your purpose in life is
to help older people with theirtechnology.
Anything you do above that isyour gravy, is your entrance
(02:07):
into the world to come, but yourmain purpose on earth is to
help.
I always kept saying that andthen all of a sudden I see your
it was a news piece about youguys and I was blown away and I
said I have to meet this kid andthat's really Moshiach Energy
what you do, thanks.
So tell the speakers into themicrophone, to the speakers, to
(02:28):
the listeners, about this.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Yeah, so I mean, it just started at my high school.
Me and a couple of buddies weresophomores and we were just
looking like you know, right nowthe thing to do is like start
something in high school, likeit'll look good on your resume,
but a lot of people do thingsthat they don't really sort of
(02:49):
like follow through with or careabout.
And we we wanted to.
You know, we were ambitious, wewanted to do something good
that you know would actuallyreally have an impact.
So we were basically justtalking about different ideas
and uh, something that likehappened one day.
We basically just had aconversation joking about like
different, like sort of funnyways in which our own like
(03:11):
grandparents struggled withtheir technology and uh, so we
were like, you know, our schoolalready it sort of was all this
perfect situation where ourschool was already uh had a good
relationship with theretirement home right next door,
like it's like independentliving for seniors, and uh, so
(03:32):
we, we we thought you know, whydon't we just try go, maybe like
once a month, bring up some ofour friends, get some community
service hours, help them withtheir devices we didn't really
think too much about it.
Hours, help them with theirdevices.
We didn't really think too muchabout it.
And then we started to go and wesort of realized that, you know
, we were actually kind ofbecoming friends with the
(03:53):
seniors and like becoming closerand, you know, learning their
names, and they would tell usabout their grandkids and we
would help them get in touchwith their grandkids.
Sometimes they'd like struggleto, you know, find the like
their contact or something, howto call them, so stuff like that
, emails, and so, yeah, I mean,eventually we realized that
there was, you know, because, ifyou think about it, every,
(04:15):
every kid who is, you know,under the age of like anyone
under the age of like 30, hashelped an older family member,
even, maybe not even 30, maybe50, has helped an older family
member with their device.
So we thought it was just a goodway for us to put to use like
(04:35):
all the skills we learnedthrough like mindlessly
scrolling on our phones, rightand so yeah, so then, you know,
we started doing once a week andthen from there, you know, we
kind of realized we were ontosomething big like that.
There was something here thatreally could be made bigger and
(04:59):
we realized, so there's a mom atour school who knew a local
news station reporter and theydid a story for us on the local
news.
And then eventually some avidviewer of the local news sent an
email to Steve Hartman or histeam at CBS and Steve Hartman
(05:23):
came and did a story and then itwas really sort of started to
get the ball rolling, like, uh,we got up to like 15 different
schools doing the same thing.
So we're basically just helpingkids do the same thing that we
did at their schools.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Amazing.
Yeah, so you're going in,you're going into an old, to a
retirement home, to a placewhere seniors are living.
I mean, I've done that as acomedian.
Okay, I've gone to, I'veperformed on 108th street.
That sums at home.
I never figured I got there.
There were no chairs becauseeverybody was brought in in a
wheelchair and I did, I did ashow for them.
It was great.
And there's people who go inand they sing yeah to seniors,
(06:01):
to seniors.
you're going in and you're doinglike you're bringing light into
this.
First of all, just to sit withyou and to speak to an 18 year
old, just to not have to hearstories that they're hearing
from their own friends, that'salready next level of Moshiach
energy.
And then you're helping themLike they might even.
What do you think the retainingpercent of what they're like if
(06:23):
you teach them something?
How much do they retain it.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yeah, I mean it's low .
It's low, but it's like aweekly thing I would say.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
it takes like I mean we Give me an example.
What's one person you know?
You've helped them figure outhow to send something or do
something.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
For something on the phone.
You know it's usually prettysimple.
They do user-friendly stuff.
But if it's something like aprinter or like a TV, like those
things are so arcane they don'tupdate them.
Even the newest printers arelike horrible to use.
So there was a guy, I guess, inour should I say the name?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Is that allowed?
Say his first name?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Irving.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Ron, is that allowed Say?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
his first name, irving Ron.
So we went to his house manytimes to help with the same
issue and, to be fair, it wasn'this fault.
We had to go online, and that'slike a skill that they lack.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
They don't know how to go online.
What was Ron's issue, though?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
It was something to do with the printer, yeah, so we
came a few times and had todebug that and it was.
It was.
I'll tell you a funny story.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
So we, I ordered a printer, I like a printer, I
like, I like, I like a printer.
Uh-huh, I like, I like to go tothe boat with a boarding card
to the, to the airport.
I, I like, I print out my setlist.
I print out my set list.
And so I have a printer and Iordered.
I was broke, I ordered one andit arrived and Leo looks at it
and he was going out to meetwith friends, my husband's much
(07:49):
younger, he's a millennial, andso I he said to me bye and good
luck with that.
Right, and just in spite of him, I put it together and I sent
him a video of me.
A video of me like saying Ilove you and can't get the
printer to work.
But it was like you had to gointo your, I had to download an
(08:10):
app and then the app walked methrough it.
There's no way.
It's horrible.
I walk around all the time.
Whenever we go to the airport,whenever we go to order
something online or something, Igo.
My parents would never be ableto do this, my parents would
never be able to do this.
My parents would never be ableto do this, like they'd never in
the airport in this, in that Ihad a crazy story.
I was at the airport in Israeland they have a kosher
McDonald's and I wanted aMcDonald's burger and I went to
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the machine to do it and Ihaven't done that in.
Leo does all of that.
I was at a and Leo saw me andwe were already stressed because
we had some issue with bookingor something and I was ready to
put my fist through this.
And he comes over, he's like no, you ordered a meal plan, so
(08:54):
there's this drink.
I know you don't want a drink,you just want a burger.
And he's like and he's done.
And you just yeah, it's hard.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I saw one of the clips that you guys had.
This woman had 122,000 emailsand she thought she had to
delete them one at a time.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
So the same thing with me.
I don't answer my emails, Idon't answer my.
I have an email and we have theone for work, and one of the
best things that happened to meis I just I don't have to answer
emails.
My husband handles all of that,and so I had over a hundred.
I had more than that.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
But he was also surprised to learn that you're
supposed to answer emails likewhen you get them, Like he was
like how do you keep up with allof these thousands?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
I used to I used to before.
But anyway, you're sitting with, you're sitting with with these
people who were thrusted intothis world.
Sure it's keep in mind in theirlife, in their lifetime.
If you're 90 or 80, thiscomputer, this phone thing is
such a small percentage of yourlife.
When it happened and all of asudden, boom, everything is on
(10:02):
this.
Everybody.
Go go to the, go to the website, go to this, where they used to
have a salesperson that theyspoke to and they had somebody.
You know, my mom just had hermortgage not her mortgage, her
life and her, my mother's houseinsurance.
She's been with the same peoplefor 47 years and all of a
sudden they went paperless andsent her an email and she missed
one payment and then she lostsomething with the umbrella.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
It was a whole thing, but like it's so challenging,
did you see the expression onaaron's face when you said to
call a salesperson like that islike landing on the moon well,
I've had to start dealing withcalling, like with cleo, because
we are all like official now.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
So so I had I'm trying to deal with the IRS
right now, which I've never donebefore and like I called them
and I was like hey, you know, Ifilled out this paperwork online
.
I think I made a mistake, howdo I fix it?
And they're like oh yeah, youneed to call this other number.
But I was sitting on the, I waswaiting for them for like 15
minutes, like not 15, like theysaid 15 minutes.
(11:04):
On the thing.
It said like wait time 15minutes, but it was really like
30, 45 minutes.
I was sitting there.
And then finally they're likecall this other number, I call
the other number.
They're like if you need helpwith this, call the irs.
So you know, in the end Ihaven't called them back because
I don't know like I need tostrategize you have to call the
irs back.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
I'm gonna give you, I'm gonna give you a few things.
Be okay with the IRS.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
They don't call though you guys don't call each
other.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
No, the IRS has a phone number you can call.
I've spoken to them.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I'm talking in general, like your friends, you
guys don't call each other.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
You have a website, you guys go to you guys don't
know if I'm calling people.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Well, if it's like something I need right now, I'd
call, but you don't even calleach other right.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Like every, most communication is through tech.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Oh, for sure Most.
But if it's like, if it's likesomething that needs to be
resolved right now, I would doit.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Anyway, let's get back to the.
So you really found a way tohelp, to help.
You know you don't even see tooyoung to understand how much
this is going to help you.
Miracles will come into yourlife later on.
You won't.
It's not like the cause andeffect isn't right away.
So you're doing this mitzvah,you're doing a mitzvah.
You're doing a straight upmitzvah, creating Moshiach
(12:14):
energy, even just by sittingwith these people.
If one thing they can figureout, it's a miracle.
If just they had an afternoonwith somebody young, looking
into somebody's young eyes andseeing their world, and it's
such an amazing thing you'redoing.
You'll see the miracles lateron.
It might not be coming rightaway, you know, but you'll see
(12:35):
them.
And what's like the mostamazing story you have of like
of your interactions with theseseniors?
What's like the best story?
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Yeah, I think the nicest thing, the nice thing
well, it's just the only reasonwe kept going is because we knew
it was really like this greatthing and we saw that it really
had like an outsized impact,given whatever work it took.
But something that really wassort of shocking was it was our
(13:05):
first year volunteering and wehad gotten up to like 30, 45
volunteers and, uh, we come inthis is our last volunteering
session before we go off tobefore we were going off to
winter break for a few weeks,coming back after New Year's and
they're like surprised we gotthere, like no volunteering
(13:30):
today, like get everyone here.
So all like 30 came and all theseniors like pulled together
money to get us all gift cardsand they came out and they gave
like speeches on like how muchit was impactful to them, and so
that was really like a momentwhere you know because a lot of
times you know they don't showlike how that they're grateful
(13:54):
like in the moment, like, but Idon't know, that was a very
special it's very nice.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
They give you that.
That money is energy.
You're giving them energy.
They just gave you some energyback.
It's what.
It's what that is.
Yeah and um and um and sothat's unbelievable.
So I just want to wrap up, eventhough we're only a few minutes
in.
Just tell us how people canhelp you.
How can somebody like that justsays this is amazing, how can
(14:20):
we help you?
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Yeah, so if you are a kid in high school or we even
do some colleges now and youwant to start a chapter, then
you can go to our website,cleoinitiativeorg, and it's sort
of pretty self-explanatory butthere's like a get started page
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and it walks you through exactlyhow to get in touch with us,
how to get started and you canstart your own chapter.
Otherwise, if you know anyonewho might be interested, just
shoot them the link to thewebsite or the podcast.
And also we take donations onthe page if anyone would be
interested in giving them.
(15:01):
So there's just it's prettyright.
As you get on the page it saysdonate.
So you could give us a donationthat just helps us.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Are you already a nonprofit organization?
Yeah, we are, so you're doinggood.
Yeah, you figured that out.
Yeah, good for you.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
It's been a few years , but yeah, it was definitely
difficult to figure out all thetechnical stuff.
Lots of, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
That's amazing that you guys started like a formal
nonprofit.
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
I'm so proud to have you on the podcast.
I can't even tell you.
It's literally.
You see an 18-year-old Moshiachenergy Unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Well, we had a lot of help.
I mean, for example, like toget all these incorporation
things done.
It's expensive.
So like a member of our FortMyers Florida Jewish community
like basically paid for us toget incorporated and she is like
involved in the synagogue andstuff like that, so she Mashiach
energy.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Yeah, you're learning .
At 18, you are understandingwhat Mashiach energy is, which
brings me to the next thingabout your life, when we talked
about before the podcast began.
You go to the Chabad house ofUPenn I do.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
How is it?
It's good.
I mean, I go, you know, everycouple weeks and I think I'm
lucky to be at a school wherethere's such a big Jewish
community.
I think it's somewhere around15% of the school.
So people sometimes say, likepejoratively, jew Penn.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah, I went to be Jew to be you.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Okay, there you go.
It's not like a new thing.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Juton Massachusetts, juton, massachusetts.
Yeah, so you go to the Chabadhouse of U Penn.
Yep, yeah, and so you, who'sthe rabbi?
Speaker 3 (16:41):
So Rabbi Levy is our rabbi.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Levy is his first name.
What's his last name?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
I don't know Wow.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
It's just.
Rabbi Levi that's just who he is.
So the Chabad rabbis, it's likethis the young ones go by their
first name Rabbi Mendy, rabbiZalman, and the older ones go by
their last name Rabbi Hanachov,chalovsky, hanachov, chalovsky,
Chalovsky, and so and so.
(17:12):
But that the rabbi at yourschool is your link to the rebbe
.
Do you know about the rebbe?
Sure, yeah, so that's his.
His whole purpose there isobviously to make you feel
welcome.
Let you know that you're a jewand and and he's probably blown
away by what you do with this.
Chloe, right, he's blown away,right, he must be blown away.
I don't even know if he knowsYou've got to be kidding me.
I don't know You've got to bekidding me.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
I'm just there for the conversation.
The little mosh pit the littlevodka shots, right?
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but he's a very important.
No, not that.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
What Not the vodka shots?
He's 18.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Oh, no vodka shots, that's right.
No vodka shots, absolutely not.
No, having what's it called thegrape juice, that hideous grape
juice.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Manischewitz.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Manischewitz grape juice.
Yes, okay, I'm getting RabbiLevy in trouble, you're getting
me in trouble, you're in trouble.
No, um, you it the Chabad house.
I went to be you to the Chabadhouse.
I was there every week.
I it was Rabbi Posner, lastname where's Rabbi Posner these
days?
Speaker 2 (18:15):
he's there, he's still there, rabbi Posner we
have to have him on the show.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I don't know if I'm ready.
He's.
He's such a huge thing in mylife I I have to prepare, okay.
I have to prepare Speaking ofpreparing.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
This is also Aaron's first podcast ever.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Thank God this is your first.
I'm so glad this is your firstpodcast, so okay.
So just to end up that, so youhave a Chabad house that you go
to at UPenn and utilize that andlearn about the Rebbe.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Yeah, are you Chabadnik?
Are you Chabad?
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Yes, is this shirt black?
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Everybody is Chabad Okay.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Some people just don't know they are I see, yeah,
you're Chabad too, you're alsoChabad.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
The work you're doing is a Chabad work, chabad's good
.
I'm an emissary of theLubavitch Rebbe.
There you go.
I can tell you that I'm likeRabbi Levi Mashiach.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Mashiach energy Absolutely Makes sense.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Yeah, what are you looking like?
Speaker 2 (19:13):
that, for I'm digesting that we're all Chabad.
I didn't know we were allChabad, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
When you send all that stuff to Israel and all you
do all the volunteer work andyou did Chabad.
That's what that is.
That's what that's abouthelping others Please.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
It's a different episode.
It's a different episode.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
My sister she's.
She's very close with the MITChabad.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Wow, I don't know.
Only thing now missing isHarvard.
You have UPenn, mit and Harvard.
Those are the three presidentsthat got fired.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Okay, we have Harvard , my niece was at Harvard.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
What's the vibe on the anti-Semites scene at Penn?
What's going on now?
Speaker 3 (19:54):
It's much quieter than before.
I got there, for sure, myparents were worried just
because Penn was a focal point,but after the whole thing with
the president, liz McGill andit's just quieted down.
So you know, the current likethe current administration under
the interim president is justvery anti, like any political
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demonstration.
I mean there's beendemonstrations but they've like
walked around campus.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Not right, but you feel like, as a jewish student
on campus, like you can bejewish, yeah yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I I think it's definitely not what my parents,
like, were worried about, forsure, like there's yeah, you
know, people walk around it'svery encouraging to meet people
walk around pen with the yamakas.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yeah, their stars out and they're, bring them home
pins and all that and the vibeis a little easier now it's
easier I there's also peoplewalking around with keffiyeh,
but it's like which?
Is okay.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
It's like a mutual like it's just peaceful
demonstration.
That's how it should be.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
It's just how it should be.
There's nothing I love morethan seeing a keffiyeh or Not a
keffiyeh, so much but the hijabswomen.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Much of it was the the hijabs women with hijabs in
in my audience makes me so happy.
It's I love seeing like thepalestinian flag with the
israeli flag and a little dovetogether.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Yeah, that's the point.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Yeah, yeah, it's, that's that's I mean ultimately
right it's gonna have to come tothat right.
I mean, there's no like it'sgonna have to come to a
resolution eventually.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yes, it has to come and everybody has to feel like
they won.
That's the main thing.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Everybody loses and everybody wins.
Right, that's the nature ofcompromise.
You have to give up a littlebit.
Everybody has to move a littlebit towards each other.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Okay yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
No problem.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
I took APUSus history great compromiser, uh clay I
think was his name and he wasbig during the founding and he
basically brought the two sidesI mean the parties were
different then but he was like,this guy was like, look, let's
just find a middle ground andmove on, when everyone was being
(22:07):
very you know I mean it's not anew thing to like be stuck in
your ideology and like you can'tcompromise but yeah, so a lot
of legislation was passedbecause he was able to.
You know, compromise.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Yeah, so you are at a very storied school, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Well, obviously the incoming president went to
exactly pen.
How do you feel about that?
Speaker 3 (22:30):
about.
Well, I think you know, pendefinitely distances themselves
from, from trump.
Uh, I do, I would say so.
I, I mean, you know there's nobuildings named after him.
I don't know if he donated, soyou know that could be, but I, I
mean, I don't know if I couldsay that for certain, but well,
(22:50):
there's definitely no buildingsnamed after him.
I don't know if they're reallydistancing themselves from him
or if he's distancing himselffrom them.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
I mean, hard to say.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
But there's definitely not a lot of
affiliation, although, like inthe debate, he was like oh, you
know Wharton, like I'm fromWharton, like I'm from Wharton.
During the debate there werelike three or four references to
Penn.
Yeah, the presidential debateand I was in like a watch party
and everyone went crazy.
And then, yeah, I mean yeah.
So it's nice to be likesomewhere that's very relevant
(23:16):
and current and yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
And Elon Musk.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Elon Musk?
Yeah, he lived a few doors downbasically from where I live
when he was an RA of my building, like in the 90s or something.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Could you imagine Elon Musk as your RA?
Hey guys, let's just plugeverything at once and see what
happens.
Yes, I can't imagine going toschool with Elon Musk.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Well, I'm sure he's, do you have?
Speaker 1 (23:46):
any Elon Musk-y guys in your Like, you can tell these
are the next Elon Musks in yourschool.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
I don't know if I could say Like, yeah, I don't
know, elon Musk is a very uniqueguy, so hard to predict.
I'm sure Elon Musk, if youlooked at Elon Musk when he was
at Penn, you wouldn't be able tosay he was the next Elon Musk.
I'm sure he stuck out.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
I'm sure he stuck out .
I'm sure he was somethingunique.
Someone said that's going to besomething unique.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Anyway, back to Clio.
Sure Back to Clio.
Where do you see it going?
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Yeah, I mean I don't see a reason why it couldn't be
in any high school.
You know like there's so manyhigh schools but there's also so
many seniors and there's youknow a million different
directions.
We can take it where we can dolike house calls or something
(24:44):
Like right now we're just doingsomething very simple, something
that we can manage, which islike a high school visits
retirement home or senior living, something like right now we're
just doing something verysimple, something that we can
manage, which is like a highschool visits a retirement home
or senior living, something likethat.
Um, but you know, I think we'llwe'll take it as we go.
Um, but right now we're justlooking to expand and um make a
big impact with the with thisidea.
I think like it's easy to tellwhen an idea is really good
(25:09):
because it there's no resistanceto like spreading that idea.
Like there's no, no one'slosing in this situation.
You don't have to sell anyoneon Clio People.
You know kids need something todo for their resume
realistically and seniors needhelp with their devices.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
It's so funny to say that the kids need this for
their resume.
I mean, they do.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
I'm not.
I'm a realist here.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Right, but you understand that this is more
than just.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Oh, 100%.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
This is a very spiritual thing you're doing,
definitely It's're doing.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
It's not, it's not, it's, you know, it's not uh but
I I think that that is somethingthat even like that's something
that you realize after youstart doing it like what's?
Speaker 1 (25:57):
like an amazing story you had, like a one-on-one
connection with with one of theseniors, like some story that
they told you that blew you away, and like it was life-changing
I mean they're they always just,they always just are so willing
to put themselves out because,like, a lot of them are pretty
lonely, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
So you know everything from like family
members like passed away andit's something like that's one
of the reasons why we try tolimit to high school, because
you know, if you have likelittle kids, like it's just,
it's, it sometimes can be a bitemotionally mature, like you
need to be emotionally mature.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
So you know, we had people who we we volunteered
with helping them and then theywould pass away, like over the
course of the time that we werethere, you know.
So it's just, it can be very,very like.
So you got back and theyweren't there the following week
.
Yeah, you know, like uh, oneday one of the people who would
regularly come was like hewasn't there and there's a
(26:58):
picture of him on the on thepiano, you know, and a little
like in memoriam, and it's very,it's very.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
You know it can be very tough, but I think it like
it because as a high school, asa high school student, you
haven't dealt with they haven'tdealt with death.
Your parents, your grandparents, are still alive.
Your parents are still well,unless there was some kind of
like super traumatic thing insomeone's house and all of a
sudden, you're dealing withdeath.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Yeah, yeah, so you know it.
You know there was a lot ofstories Like there was one lady
who she would come often and herfriend would come and you know
one of them stopped comingbecause she had complications in
the surgery she passed away.
The other one started comingand bringing the other, the, the
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friend's dog, because someoneneeded to take care of her dog.
So the dog was passed to thefriend and so you know yeah,
it's a lot of you know it ittakes like sometimes you have to
step back and sort of like yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
And now that everyone in like your world knows that
you do this, or it's likeeverybody's grandparents,
including your own, like, callyou like this, or it's like
everybody's grandparents,including your own, like,
calling you like.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Aaron, that's funny.
Yeah, uh, not really.
I mean my grandparents it was.
You know I helped them a lotbefore, but uh, yeah, I think
they, people, people are morelikely to call their own, their
own grandkids.
But we, you know we but we getemails from people's
grandparents, people we don'tknow who email us off our
(28:33):
website, which is good for them,and they're like yeah, I'm
struggling with technology, canyou help us?
And it's tough because youcan't.
How do you approach a seniorwho needs help when you have to
find a school and be like findus kids to run this program?
It's very hard to organize.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
That's great, though I mean.
That's really the key, then,right.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Obviously these people can't get on a Zoom call
with you.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Right, and that's the that's.
That's one.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
you know it's hard to connect digitally with them, so
I want, I just retirementcenter, senior living needs to
get like linked up with likelocal high schools.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Yeah, I mean it's a brilliant model.
We definitely.
Yeah, that's something thatwe're we're thinking about how
to implement like a way toactually do some kind of
algorithmic like.
We have, you know, a map fullof people who have reached out
to us in some kind of pairing orsome way to you way to reach
out.
I mean it's manual right now.
(29:37):
So a lot of times when a seniorwill reach out to us at a
certain senior living place,we'll say get us in touch with
your admin.
Social worker people Like theadministration and then we'll
try to see what we can do.
That's great.
It's very difficult to do itthe other way, from this
(30:00):
starting with a senior facilityand moving to a high school,
because you know you needsomeone who has, like, the
motivation to really take on theeffort.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
It's easier to start with a high school and then sort
of figure it out, send them tothe….
I mean there's been very fewthat I know, these senior living
places that have said no, youknow they all would love… and so
who's the… what's the firstpoint of contact at like a high
school that you guys talk toLike who do you need at these
(30:32):
high schools to then facilitatethat connection?
Speaker 3 (30:36):
We're mostly.
We mostly start with a kid whowants to start the club.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Wow, that's cool.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
And it's really just because we we, we work with
whoever wants to work with us.
So it's just right.
Now we don't have a greatoutreach program.
It's a lot of you know, most ofthe publicity we have came from
that story on CBS and then theyre-aired it like a month ago
and we got a huge second waveand you know.
(31:01):
So now we're up to we were at15 before this, then this aired.
Now we're working with like 40schools.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Wow, wow yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
So we're, we're, we're slowly building it, we're
fine.
We're thinking of ways toencourage kids who are already
involved to like show this totheir friends and maybe like, if
a chapter is fully establishedand they start volunteering, to
give them like a little like $10, like referral bonus just for
helping us expand, and stufflike that.
You know, we're just trying tothink of ways to keep it going,
(31:31):
you know, because that's thehardest.
That's the hardest part of theequation is finding the people
to to run the program at theschools.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
That's amazing I have a high school kid for you who
is gonna love to do this.
No, no, not mine.
You know what else you couldgive them instead of a $10
referral?
What you could give them an aand h provision gift card an a
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(33:01):
What else is happening there?
Do you have a girlfriend out inPenn?
Speaker 3 (33:04):
No.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
I'm looking, you're looking.
Yes, what are you looking forin a girlfriend?
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Get Aliza on the phone.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
I don't need Aliza, I can handle his matchmaking
situation.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
I'm looking for someone who lives in my area.
That's very, that's not a biglook.
No, no, I just I don't knowwhen you go on dates with girls.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
18 year olds now go on dates with girls.
What's the conversation?
What's up?
Speaker 2 (33:41):
I feel like it's just it's.
You know, it's easy to telllike wait, sorry, this is really
interesting.
How do you?
Speaker 3 (33:43):
meet.
Like you guys aren't on appsdating, right, not no, some
people.
So even like at 18, you guysare meeting well, it's like not
really for dating, it's more forpeople like hooking up whatever
okay yeah, okay, and what's uh,and what's the conversation?
Speaker 1 (33:56):
What do you guys talk about?
Now, when you got?
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Just I don't know it.
Just there's no like one thing.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
So you know, I was at an event for single young
Jewish singles thing andsomebody asked me like what's a
good joke?
What should we talk about onthese dates?
I always talk again.
Everything goes back to theRebbe, the Lubavitcher.
Rebbe said when two people meet, the first thing they should
talk about is how to helpsomebody else.
So on your dates, when you goout with these girls you,
(34:25):
obviously, but find out what sheis interested in.
You can tell a lot about aperson by what they want to help
with, you know.
So obviously you're killing itLike I started.
Cleo, what do you have?
You're literally at that.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
You're literally at that.
That must be a great talk.
Yeah, you got that crazy.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
You know, there's this camp called Camp Hask.
It's this camp upstate thathelps kids.
It's a camp, a full-blownsummer camp for kids with all
kinds of disabilities andstruggles that you can't imagine
.
Some of them need threecounselors a kid and the kids
that work with them are nextlevel of Moshiach energy.
(35:10):
And I always say, if you'reever on a date on a Shidduch
date or whatever date with a kidwho worked at Camp Hask, don't
let this go.
This is you, don't let this.
Make sure you hold on to itSomebody that meets you.
You have to understand youbegan Cleo, cleo, cleo.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Yeah, no.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Don't do that, that's not nice, you're killing it,
but that's when you're on thesedates and you really want to.
Don't ask her like where do yousee yourself?
What corporation do you want towork at?
Or religious kids?
Are you going to cover yourarms?
Are you going to cover yourhead?
Are you going to cover yourthat?
What are you going to do in themorning?
(35:51):
Are you going to play with thewater right by your bed?
How you're that?
What are you going to do in themorning?
And you're going to play withthe water right by your bed?
Ask him how are you going tohelp the world?
How are you going to createmashiach energy?
Just ask that.
In your next date, ask a girlhow are you going to create
mashiach energy?
And just see if her head blowsoff and goes up.
What the hell are you talkingabout?
And you say I was on modi'spodcast and he told me he told
me to do it.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
I don't it.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
I don't know, I don't know, I think I would lead with
that baby first.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
What?
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Because I was on Moni's podcast, sorry, by the
way.
Let me ask you a question.
I've been learning so muchabout Gen Z's.
Now, right, that's what you are.
You guys don't watch comedyspecials.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
I mean, I've seen a couple.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
You have fully Fully, from beginning to end.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Which ones, which ones Wait?
Speaker 3 (36:39):
I haven't seen one in a while, but… Wait, when I…
Okay, so I was learning this, bythe way, when I… I think a
couple years ago I watched oneof Bo Burnham's comedy shows.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Okay, it was on Netflix, Puppets right.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Puppets.
He does like music, he doeslike songs and stuff.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
So I've learned this recently Young people are not
watching comedy specials, theyjust watch clips.
Yeah, yeah yeah, they don'teven know that there's like a
special.
They just think that the guycomes on does this one-minute
joke and comes off.
They don't understand.
That's a part of a special,it's so….
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Well, everything you know, the funniest… Some of the
funniest things I've ever seen….
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Yeah, are my clips Like… Yep, okay, what?
Speaker 3 (37:24):
else, where…, where…, where… Like 30 second nonsense
videos.
There's like an idea calledbrain rot.
Yeah when it's like thesevideos that are so dumb.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Yes, it's like making your brain rot Because you guys
grew up with phones.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
How old were?
Speaker 2 (37:42):
you when you got a phone.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
I was nine.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Yeah, that's insane.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Because, they didn't know when he was nine that it's
really bad to give little kidsphones like that.
Now we know we're 10 years,nine years out.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Like my son's 11.
Like all the messaging is underno circumstances are you to let
this child?
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Yeah, oh, they told you that.
Now, oh my God, of course,what's the age supposed to give
the kid a phone?
Speaker 2 (38:12):
A smartphone should not be before, like really high
school, like they don't wantwhich is what year?
Speaker 1 (38:17):
I don't know, I don't know like 15?
Speaker 2 (38:19):
15.
Like social media is like ahard absolutely not.
It is the most dangerous thing.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
And so you got it at nine.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Right.
I had to do a lot of convincing.
I pulled out the.
We have AT&T and they had somekind of deal where it's like, if
you add another line, I waslike, look, you're going to save
so much money by getting me aphone.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Even at nine years old, at nine years old.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
You're negotiating with your parents.
Hilarious Good for you.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
But yeah, I mean it was fine, I think, look, I think
I end up okay, but I still haveproblems sometimes, like with
just not being on my phone.
You know, I mean it's hard forall of us.
So one thing that helped me alot was I grew up going to
summer camp, okay, and where, ifI have to go New Hampshire,
it's called Camp Sunapee.
(39:11):
It's a Russian Jewish, jewishcamp, yeah, and you know, for
two, two, four weeks tosometimes two, or you could go
for four.
You have no phone in the middleof the summer and you're, you
know, in nature and it was veryhealthy, I think.
And now this summer I'm goingback with my best friend to run
the camp as, like the, theleaders of the whole, the whole.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
And a counselor.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
No, like the like the whole, the whole camp like.
I'm leading the camp as, likethe, the leaders of the whole,
the whole counselor, no, likethe, like the whole the whole
camp.
Like I'm leading the camp withmy best friend.
Yeah, so excited.
Yeah, this is my it's gonna bemy 10th summer, but yeah, it's
gonna be really good and uh,yeah, I think that was honestly
the real value of the camp wasthat I had a few weeks every
year with no phone, and I thinkmost people don't have that
(40:00):
right now.
I can't.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
It's so funny.
I remember, you know, like whenthe kids went to camp back in
the day was just to see nature.
Now it's like you have arespite from your phone.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
It's not.
It wasn't even no phone.
It was like no outsideinformation period.
Like if a counselor is caughtlike giving their phone to a
camper, they're fired Like it'snot.
It wasn't even no phone.
It was like no outsideinformation period.
Like if a counselor is caughtlike giving their phone to a
camper, they're fired like it'sa it's it's like on lockdown.
The only access you have to theoutside world is every day,
like parents and people can sendemails, and once a day they
print the emails and give themout and that's all.
(40:31):
That's the only contact thereis with the outside world.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Oh, my God.
So I went to camp in 1979 to 80, whatever five years after that
would be 83, 84.
And the big thing was likepackages when you get a package.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Yes, I remember that.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Every day in the afternoon you went and they put
the packages out and if you sawone with your name, you were in
heaven, yes, heaven.
And then you had the phone callModi, your mother is on the
phone and you ran to theheadquarter bunk.
I went to Camp Scatico and youwent to the headquarter and you
answered the phone.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
How old were you when you?
Went the headquarter and youanswered the phone.
How old were you when you went?
Speaker 1 (41:15):
I was nine to 14.
Wow, five years at Camp Scaticowhen is that?
In the Berkshires?
And it was.
That was like.
And my parents were like no,this is good, you have to go for
nature, you have to be innature.
I'm like what?
And he goes are you guys goingto nature?
(41:36):
No, we're going to Paris andthere's this thing called
visiting day.
I don't know if we're going tobe on this visiting day.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
Yeah, it's the same with us.
We actually have well the samewith us that parents take the
opportunity to go on vacation,but, uh, we have, uh, no phones,
no phone calls.
Yeah, so, like a parent, youknow, through this sign up
process, the parents have ourphone numbers and we're
instructed like, if you get atext message from a parent,
don't answer.
You keep your phones, thoughyou have your phone like
(42:07):
counselors counselors okay.
So yeah, no phones.
And I know, and I'veexperienced it's really weird, I
experienced it as a camper andthen experienced it as a
counselor as well that when akid hasn't heard the sound of
their mom's voice for two weeksor for a week and a half, and
they're really homesick and theylike somehow get through and
(42:27):
convince someone to let themhave a phone call, they just
break down in tears becausethey're so homesick.
And it happened to me once whenI got pretty sick.
So I was in the nurse's cabinby myself for like three, four
days and bad summer, and theydidn't let me have my phone
still.
So I was just sitting therelike playing cards with myself.
(42:49):
Like you know, I had, I think,a roommate who was a few years
younger than me, but it was notideal, and they let me call my
mom and I was completely normal.
And then I pick up the phoneand I'm like I just break down
because I haven't heard hervoice.
I'm so like miserable.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
So yeah, that's amazing, first of all.
So now we're learning a wholeother element to you you not
only are you able to counselseniors people in their in their
last, like chapter of theirlives, you're also a counselor
to, to, to young kids in campyeah, that came first.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
Yeah, camp was the?
Definitely, I mean, it was veryspecial they.
We also have a like an Israelcamp that uh is like American
counselors can volunteer to becounselors in the Israel camp
and it's for it's uh, you know,it's Darot yeah yeah, it's for
Darot kids, yeah and uh.
(43:47):
So it's all run by the samekind of it's in Darot, that's
where it's.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
It's in Tel.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
Aviv.
But they take kids from Sderotbut they don't want to do it
there, just for like, naturally,like the idea is to get them
out of Sderot for some time, fora little time.
Yeah, like no, you know, sothey don't have to deal with,
like all the sirens and whatnot.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
So come to this camp.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
No, they go to Tel Aviv, in Tel Aviv, and American
counselors go to Tel Aviv fromthis camp, go to Tel Aviv to be
the counselors to the kids fromSterot.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Yeah, so the gain there is that they meet American
kids, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
Well, it's like we just basically do a replica of
our camp in the US for them andwe do like English classes for
them, and so the last year wewere not able to do it, and so
we flew them out to come to ourcamp.
Oh wow or not all of them.
We flew like a subset of like20 kids 20 kids is a lot.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
That's amazing, but it was a whole fundraising thing
.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
And then we got them out to come to our camp and they
got to see like where this allcame from, where their camp is.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
That's amazing, can you?
Speaker 3 (45:05):
imagine 20 kids from Sterot getting flown out to some
camp in New HampshireUnbelievable.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Many of them had never been out of the country.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
Oh, I'm sure, I'm sure.
And then they just turned on.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
I'm sure many of them had never been out of Sterot
before.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
To not hear sirens, to not hear Israeli news, to not
hear Hebrew.
It's just, you know.
It's just.
Wow, you keep blowing me away.
First it was Chloe, then it wasthe Chabad on campus that
you're a part of.
Now you're teaching kids,You're also a counselor to kids
and adults.
And this Israeli thinker whatelse?
(45:37):
What else are you hiding fromus?
There's nothing else.
There's nothing else.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
Well, the.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Where do you see yourself, I can imagine In five
years.
Are you in law school?
Are you in?
What's the deal?
Speaker 3 (45:51):
I don't know.
I mean, that's like I I feelstrongly that I'll figure it out
, but I don't have an answer tothat question okay, that's also
an answer.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Yeah, what are your parents like?
Just what like in general yeah,like what do they do?
Speaker 3 (46:04):
are they I'm proud of you.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
They're like my son.
Began chloe period, cleo nowyou're doing it.
No, I don't, I'm really at thispoint, how am I going to
remember this?
Yeah, cleo.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Cleopatra.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
Cleopatra, perfect Cleopatra.
That's good, okay.
So do they walk around sayingmy son here?
Did you see this video of myson?
I don't think they do.
My mother would tell everybodywhat.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
They're.
You know they're proud, they'revery proud, but they don't, you
know they don't.
They're not.
They don't like to show off.
You know they're modest.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Where are they?
They're in.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
Fort Myers.
Dad's a doctor, mom's a nurse.
They met in Tel Aviv University, stop, yeah, and then.
But they're, you know, they'revery happy.
I have two siblings and we allare doing very well, so they
have no, they have no complaints.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
So well, they did a good job.
They did a great job.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
Are you kidding me?
I couldn't have asked forbetter parents.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
Oh yes.
I hope your son gives you athumb up.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
I know, I was just thinking that Is your son going
to give you a thumbs up?
I think so.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Oh, your son's going to be like they didn't give me a
phone until 15.
But, believe me, that was theleast of my problems.
Let me show you here's my mom,and then you come roaring in I
think um, I think my son knowshe's got a pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Oh, he's so cool.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
Her son's like super cool, uh-huh yeah, he's like
cool in a different, like you'recool in the way you're in your,
in your world, like, and thiswhole thing is amazing.
And her son's going to be cool.
He's creative.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
His mind thinks differently yeah, he's, he's
Mashiach, energy too.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
He really is how old is he?
Speaker 2 (47:46):
he's 11.
Speaker 3 (47:47):
Oh, that's right 11 year olds are pretty cool he's
pretty magical.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
wait a second, you, the Luigi Mangione kid, the one
who killed the CEO.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
Yeah, not Mashiach Energy.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
You're doing very well for your first podcast.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
You're killing it.
I mean, yeah, that's the talkof Penn.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
By the way, pick up your head a little bit and cover
here.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
Oh yeah, I have a green jacket that looks exactly
like it and I was wearing it theother day, and then I went to
the bathroom to wash my handsand I realized that's why I took
it off.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
Because I looked a little bit like.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
You're not, luigi.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
With the eyebrows are killing it.
You have the yeah, Look intothe camera, Pick up, pick up.
So there's no like that, likethis Okay, and then cover here
like that, ladies and gentlemen,luigi, yeah, I hope Luigi no
but God forbid you're.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
You're not going to, not gonna, but wait.
Speaker 3 (48:52):
This is the talk, like everybody on campus is
talking about this because hewent to your school yes, yeah, I
mean it was funny because theday before it came out that it
was him there was another bigthing that was blowing up that,
like you know, there was somedrama about frats and everyone
was talking about it.
It was something really dumb.
And then it came, and then thisthing came out the next day and
(49:12):
it was like the next thing.
Like everyone was like nothingcan get crazier than this thing,
which in retrospect was reallynot that interesting.
And then this luigi thing cameout.
That was like totally insane,because he's well, first of all,
I'm studying basically likealmost computer science.
It's called ai is the majorname, but it's like it's
basically computer science withlike some modifications.
(49:35):
And he studied computer scienceat Penn.
He had the same professors.
He, you know, took the sameclasses.
He was a TA for you know theclass I'm taking next semester,
the head, like he was, you know,in the same frat as I'm in.
I'm in a club called hack forimpact.
We do like just build littleprojects for like nonprofits
basically, and he was not in theclub, but he Impact.
We just build little projectsfor non-profits, basically, and
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he was not in the club, but hewas in the same frat as a bunch
of the.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
There's a lot of comedians I know that are in a
club called Hack for Impact.
A lot of comedians I know arein that club too.
But go ahead.
Thank you, Keep going.
Speaker 3 (50:10):
So that's, there are people freaking out On side chat
.
People are very like theyadmire.
They're very Under the word.
They, yeah, they're, they're,they're saying a lot of like,
very nice things.
They're like oh, I love Luigiso cute.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
Are you serious?
Yeah, yeah, more well, nopeople, people online all over
the internet.
Speaker 3 (50:33):
Are like that yeah, they were there.
They like, yeah, it's all overthe internet.
Speaker 1 (50:35):
Are like that they are doting over.
Yeah, they're not just there,it's all over the place.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
Yeah, but I feel like also, now that this initial
thing has settled, we understandthat this is a terrible, insane
thing.
For, as awful as the healthcaresystem is, murdering somebody
who has a family in broaddaylight is not the way to
handle that right well, itwasn't broad daylight, it was
(50:59):
still dark, but it but.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
But he.
It's not good, but the factthat it was the ceo of, like the
biggest, the biggest or healthnightmare health corporation and
um, and, and he happens to bean attractive killer right, that
helped.
Also.
If he was ugly, no one wouldcare that's true.
That's true, you're right aboutit's a big thing, um and so but
(51:21):
, but it's, it's not.
It's crazy.
It shows you that the world'scrazy.
It shows that everybody's on onluigi's side is like.
It shows that the world's notwell it's unhinged and you know
I just you really.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
I have been really um upset since october about with
you, know everybody else what'sgoing on in the world and really
looking at like your generationbeing like we are fucked.
But meeting you and hearingeverything about what you and
all of your friends are doingreally gives me a lot of hope
(51:55):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
What a great way to bring this in.
I am telling you right now I'mlooking at you and I see pure
Moshiach energy and I don't meetcollege kids that you know when
I do shows I don't meet themafterwards and all that, but
they're in there.
They're in my shows.
I'm shocked that there's anhour worth of comedy to be told.
It's really.
(52:18):
I can't thank you enough.
You brought me hope today, mypleasure.
Speaker 3 (52:22):
I loved being here.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
And, please, I'm going to give you a yarmulke to
bring to Rabbi Levy and find outhis last name and you'll text
it to me and that's it.
And if you ever need anythingfrom us, we'll let you know.
Speaker 2 (52:38):
I'm going to put you together with Arthur and we're
going to take you to see, likecomedy shows, I feel like, yeah,
so is it difficult to get inand out from Penn to New York
City?
Speaker 3 (52:51):
I just took the Amtrak.
I mean Philadelphia is right,so it was like an hour and a
half Amtrak.
Speaker 2 (52:56):
Hour and a little bit .
Speaker 3 (52:57):
The only thing is he's in the middle of finals,
right now Busy with school alittle bit, but you know there's
always time.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
Thank you very much for coming to the podcast and I
just want to say this because bythe time we air this, we will
be after, but you havethree-shatteringly huge shows
coming up next week, thisupcoming week, yeah yeah, my
finals are also coming up, thereyou go.
Speaker 3 (53:24):
I have three finals next week, but I'm looking
forward to mine.
Are you looking forward to yourfinals?
I'm looking forward to themoment the last final ends.
Speaker 1 (53:36):
I'm telling you, I'm focusing on looking forward to
being in the final in theseGotham finals.
They're just big episodes of mylife.
These big three shows at theBeacon Theater, 3,000 people and
just the hour, and change isamazing and people are excited,
I'm excited.
It's what a great Friday theShabbos, before the shows to
(53:57):
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Besides the beacon shows thatare already going to be after
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Okay, we have.
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Get your tickets and then alsowhat's your Instagram?
Speaker 3 (54:49):
Aaron Smolyar.
Speaker (54:56):
A-A-R-O-N-S-M-O-L-Y-A-R .
One word Hit him up if you havea single daughter and Cleopatra
, and Cleopatra, cleo.
Speaker 3 (55:01):
Cleo.
Yes, it's in my bio.
Speaker 1 (55:03):
Link in bio.
Link in bio and help him out,and that's unbelievable Moshiach
Energy.
Thank you so much for coming.
No problem, it's been great.
Everybody thanks for listening.
Welcome to and here's Modi.
Hi everybody, and welcome toand here's Modi.
We are in the studio today, me,periel, and a very, very, very,
very, very, very special guest,aaron Smulyar Smulyar Smuliar
Smuliar.
(00:23):
Those of you who aren'twatching this, I can't say that
it's an 18-year-old student fromPenn, you, penn.
I found him online, sent it toyou, you got him to come here.
He is the founder of a programcalled Chloe Cleo Cleo.
No, the whole time I haven'tbeen getting it right and, of
(00:43):
course, now I'm not going to getit right.
Chloe Cleo Cleo.
Yeah, cleo.
No, the whole time I haven'tbeen getting it right.
And of course, now I'm not goingto get it right either, cleo,
yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
The Cleo initiative Cleo.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
The Cleo initiative, and when I saw it, I was on a
flight and I perked up.
I couldn't believe this ishappening.
This is what I'm talking about.
You, in broad strokes, you goin to old age homes and you help
seniors with their devices,with their phones, iPads,
(01:16):
whatever technology.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
So Clio stands for Computer Literacy Education,
Outreach Computer LiteracyEducation.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Outreach, yeah, computer literacy education.
Outreach Computer literacyeducation outreach yeah.
And you guys go into this oldage homes and senior living I
don't know what the right way tosay it is, I was just thinking
and people who just arechallenged with.
And let me tell you something Ihave always said that because
you know.
Now I'm at a point where I dolike I speak to Hillels and all
kinds of youth groups, as youknow, just because it's easier
(01:45):
to bring me as a speaker ratherthan to hire me as a comedian,
and cheaper.
So the young kids ask me likeyou know, hey, what's like?
How do you know what your goalin life is?
So I always tell millennials andGen Zs your purpose in life is
to help older people with theirtechnology.
Anything you do above that isyour gravy, is your entrance
(02:07):
into the world to come, but yourmain purpose on earth is to
help.
I always kept saying that andthen all of a sudden I see your
it was a news piece about youguys and I was blown away and I
said I have to meet this kid andthat's really Moshiach Energy
what you do, thanks.
So tell the speakers into themicrophone, to the speakers, to
(02:28):
the listeners, about this.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Yeah, so I mean, it just started at my high school.
Me and a couple of buddies weresophomores and we were just
looking like you know, right nowthe thing to do is like start
something in high school, likeit'll look good on your resume,
but a lot of people do thingsthat they don't really sort of
(02:49):
like follow through with or careabout.
And we we wanted to.
You know, we were ambitious, wewanted to do something good
that you know would actuallyreally have an impact.
So we were basically justtalking about different ideas
and uh, something that likehappened one day.
We basically just had aconversation joking about like
different, like sort of funnyways in which our own like
(03:11):
grandparents struggled withtheir technology and uh, so we
were like, you know, our schoolalready it sort of was all this
perfect situation where ourschool was already uh had a good
relationship with theretirement home right next door,
like it's like independentliving for seniors, and uh, so
(03:32):
we, we we thought you know, whydon't we just try go, maybe like
once a month, bring up some ofour friends, get some community
service hours, help them withtheir devices we didn't really
think too much about it.
Hours, help them with theirdevices.
We didn't really think too muchabout it.
And then we started to go and wesort of realized that, you know
, we were actually kind ofbecoming friends with the
(03:53):
seniors and like becoming closerand, you know, learning their
names, and they would tell usabout their grandkids and we
would help them get in touchwith their grandkids.
Sometimes they'd like struggleto, you know, find the like
their contact or something, howto call them, so stuff like that
, emails, and so, yeah, I mean,eventually we realized that
there was, you know, because, ifyou think about it, every,
(04:15):
every kid who is, you know,under the age of like anyone
under the age of like 30, hashelped an older family member,
even, maybe not even 30, maybe50, has helped an older family
member with their device.
So we thought it was just a goodway for us to put to use like
(04:35):
all the skills we learnedthrough like mindlessly
scrolling on our phones, rightand so yeah, so then, you know,
we started doing once a week andthen from there, you know, we
kind of realized we were ontosomething big like that.
There was something here thatreally could be made bigger and
(04:59):
we realized, so there's a mom atour school who knew a local
news station reporter and theydid a story for us on the local
news.
And then eventually some avidviewer of the local news sent an
email to Steve Hartman or histeam at CBS and Steve Hartman
(05:23):
came and did a story and then itwas really sort of started to
get the ball rolling, like, uh,we got up to like 15 different
schools doing the same thing.
So we're basically just helpingkids do the same thing that we
did at their schools.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Amazing.
Yeah, so you're going in,you're going into an old, to a
retirement home, to a placewhere seniors are living.
I mean, I've done that as acomedian.
Okay, I've gone to, I'veperformed on 108th street.
That sums at home.
I never figured I got there.
There were no chairs becauseeverybody was brought in in a
wheelchair and I did, I did ashow for them.
It was great.
And there's people who go inand they sing yeah to seniors,
(06:01):
to seniors.
you're going in and you're doinglike you're bringing light into
this.
First of all, just to sit withyou and to speak to an 18 year
old, just to not have to hearstories that they're hearing
from their own friends, that'salready next level of Moshiach
energy.
And then you're helping themLike they might even.
What do you think the retainingpercent of what they're like if
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you teach them something?
How much do they retain it.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yeah, I mean it's low .
It's low, but it's like aweekly thing I would say.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
it takes like I mean we Give me an example.
What's one person you know?
You've helped them figure outhow to send something or do
something.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
For something on the phone.
You know it's usually prettysimple.
They do user-friendly stuff.
But if it's something like aprinter or like a TV, like those
things are so arcane they don'tupdate them.
Even the newest printers arelike horrible to use.
So there was a guy, I guess, inour should I say the name?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Is that allowed?
Say his first name?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Irving.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Ron, is that allowed Say?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
his first name, irving Ron.
So we went to his house manytimes to help with the same
issue and, to be fair, it wasn'this fault.
We had to go online, and that'slike a skill that they lack.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
They don't know how to go online.
What was Ron's issue, though?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
It was something to do with the printer, yeah, so we
came a few times and had todebug that and it was.
It was.
I'll tell you a funny story.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
So we, I ordered a printer, I like a printer, I
like, I like, I like a printer.
Uh-huh, I like, I like to go tothe boat with a boarding card
to the, to the airport.
I, I like, I print out my setlist.
I print out my set list.
And so I have a printer and Iordered.
I was broke, I ordered one andit arrived and Leo looks at it
and he was going out to meetwith friends, my husband's much
(07:49):
younger, he's a millennial, andso I he said to me bye and good
luck with that.
Right, and just in spite of him, I put it together and I sent
him a video of me.
A video of me like saying Ilove you and can't get the
printer to work.
But it was like you had to gointo your, I had to download an
(08:10):
app and then the app walked methrough it.
There's no way.
It's horrible.
I walk around all the time.
Whenever we go to the airport,whenever we go to order
something online or something, Igo.
My parents would never be ableto do this, my parents would
never be able to do this.
My parents would never be ableto do this, like they'd never in
the airport in this, in that Ihad a crazy story.
I was at the airport in Israeland they have a kosher
McDonald's and I wanted aMcDonald's burger and I went to
(08:33):
the machine to do it and Ihaven't done that in.
Leo does all of that.
I was at a and Leo saw me andwe were already stressed because
we had some issue with bookingor something and I was ready to
put my fist through this.
And he comes over, he's like no, you ordered a meal plan, so
(08:54):
there's this drink.
I know you don't want a drink,you just want a burger.
And he's like and he's done.
And you just yeah, it's hard.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I saw one of the clips that you guys had.
This woman had 122,000 emailsand she thought she had to
delete them one at a time.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
So the same thing with me.
I don't answer my emails, Idon't answer my.
I have an email and we have theone for work, and one of the
best things that happened to meis I just I don't have to answer
emails.
My husband handles all of that,and so I had over a hundred.
I had more than that.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
But he was also surprised to learn that you're
supposed to answer emails likewhen you get them, Like he was
like how do you keep up with allof these thousands?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
I used to I used to before.
But anyway, you're sitting with, you're sitting with with these
people who were thrusted intothis world.
Sure it's keep in mind in theirlife, in their lifetime.
If you're 90 or 80, thiscomputer, this phone thing is
such a small percentage of yourlife.
When it happened and all of asudden, boom, everything is on
(10:02):
this.
Everybody.
Go go to the, go to the website, go to this, where they used to
have a salesperson that theyspoke to and they had somebody.
You know, my mom just had hermortgage not her mortgage, her
life and her, my mother's houseinsurance.
She's been with the same peoplefor 47 years and all of a
sudden they went paperless andsent her an email and she missed
one payment and then she lostsomething with the umbrella.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
It was a whole thing, but like it's so challenging,
did you see the expression onaaron's face when you said to
call a salesperson like that islike landing on the moon well,
I've had to start dealing withcalling, like with cleo, because
we are all like official now.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
So so I had I'm trying to deal with the IRS
right now, which I've never donebefore and like I called them
and I was like hey, you know, Ifilled out this paperwork online
.
I think I made a mistake, howdo I fix it?
And they're like oh yeah, youneed to call this other number.
But I was sitting on the, I waswaiting for them for like 15
minutes, like not 15, like theysaid 15 minutes.
(11:04):
On the thing.
It said like wait time 15minutes, but it was really like
30, 45 minutes.
I was sitting there.
And then finally they're likecall this other number, I call
the other number.
They're like if you need helpwith this, call the irs.
So you know, in the end Ihaven't called them back because
I don't know like I need tostrategize you have to call the
irs back.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
I'm gonna give you, I'm gonna give you a few things.
Be okay with the IRS.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
They don't call though you guys don't call each
other.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
No, the IRS has a phone number you can call.
I've spoken to them.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I'm talking in general, like your friends, you
guys don't call each other.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
You have a website, you guys go to you guys don't
know if I'm calling people.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Well, if it's like something I need right now, I'd
call, but you don't even calleach other right.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Like every, most communication is through tech.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Oh, for sure Most.
But if it's like, if it's likesomething that needs to be
resolved right now, I would doit.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Anyway, let's get back to the.
So you really found a way tohelp, to help.
You know you don't even see tooyoung to understand how much
this is going to help you.
Miracles will come into yourlife later on.
You won't.
It's not like the cause andeffect isn't right away.
So you're doing this mitzvah,you're doing a mitzvah.
You're doing a straight upmitzvah, creating Moshiach
(12:14):
energy, even just by sittingwith these people.
If one thing they can figureout, it's a miracle.
If just they had an afternoonwith somebody young, looking
into somebody's young eyes andseeing their world, and it's
such an amazing thing you'redoing.
You'll see the miracles lateron.
It might not be coming rightaway, you know, but you'll see
(12:35):
them.
And what's like the mostamazing story you have of like
of your interactions with theseseniors?
What's like the best story?
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Yeah, I think the nicest thing, the nice thing
well, it's just the only reasonwe kept going is because we knew
it was really like this greatthing and we saw that it really
had like an outsized impact,given whatever work it took.
But something that really wassort of shocking was it was our
(13:05):
first year volunteering and wehad gotten up to like 30, 45
volunteers and, uh, we come inthis is our last volunteering
session before we go off tobefore we were going off to
winter break for a few weeks,coming back after New Year's and
they're like surprised we gotthere, like no volunteering
(13:30):
today, like get everyone here.
So all like 30 came and all theseniors like pulled together
money to get us all gift cardsand they came out and they gave
like speeches on like how muchit was impactful to them, and so
that was really like a momentwhere you know because a lot of
times you know they don't showlike how that they're grateful
(13:54):
like in the moment, like, but Idon't know, that was a very
special it's very nice.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
They give you that.
That money is energy.
You're giving them energy.
They just gave you some energyback.
It's what.
It's what that is.
Yeah and um and um and sothat's unbelievable.
So I just want to wrap up, eventhough we're only a few minutes
in.
Just tell us how people canhelp you.
How can somebody like that justsays this is amazing, how can
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we help you?
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Yeah, so if you are a kid in high school or we even
do some colleges now and youwant to start a chapter, then
you can go to our website,cleoinitiativeorg, and it's sort
of pretty self-explanatory butthere's like a get started page
(14:41):
and it walks you through exactlyhow to get in touch with us,
how to get started and you canstart your own chapter.
Otherwise, if you know anyonewho might be interested, just
shoot them the link to thewebsite or the podcast.
And also we take donations onthe page if anyone would be
interested in giving them.
(15:01):
So there's just it's prettyright.
As you get on the page it saysdonate.
So you could give us a donationthat just helps us.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Are you already a nonprofit organization?
Yeah, we are, so you're doinggood.
Yeah, you figured that out.
Yeah, good for you.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
It's been a few years , but yeah, it was definitely
difficult to figure out all thetechnical stuff.
Lots of, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
That's amazing that you guys started like a formal
nonprofit.
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
I'm so proud to have you on the podcast.
I can't even tell you.
It's literally.
You see an 18-year-old Moshiachenergy Unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Well, we had a lot of help.
I mean, for example, like toget all these incorporation
things done.
It's expensive.
So like a member of our FortMyers Florida Jewish community
like basically paid for us toget incorporated and she is like
involved in the synagogue andstuff like that, so she Mashiach
energy.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Yeah, you're learning .
At 18, you are understandingwhat Mashiach energy is, which
brings me to the next thingabout your life, when we talked
about before the podcast began.
You go to the Chabad house ofUPenn I do.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
How is it?
It's good.
I mean, I go, you know, everycouple weeks and I think I'm
lucky to be at a school wherethere's such a big Jewish
community.
I think it's somewhere around15% of the school.
So people sometimes say, likepejoratively, jew Penn.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah, I went to be Jew to be you.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Okay, there you go.
It's not like a new thing.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Juton Massachusetts, juton, massachusetts.
Yeah, so you go to the Chabadhouse of U Penn.
Yep, yeah, and so you, who'sthe rabbi?
Speaker 3 (16:41):
So Rabbi Levy is our rabbi.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Levy is his first name.
What's his last name?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
I don't know Wow.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
It's just.
Rabbi Levi that's just who he is.
So the Chabad rabbis, it's likethis the young ones go by their
first name Rabbi Mendy, rabbiZalman, and the older ones go by
their last name Rabbi Hanachov,chalovsky, hanachov, chalovsky,
Chalovsky, and so and so.
(17:12):
But that the rabbi at yourschool is your link to the rebbe
.
Do you know about the rebbe?
Sure, yeah, so that's his.
His whole purpose there isobviously to make you feel
welcome.
Let you know that you're a jewand and and he's probably blown
away by what you do with this.
Chloe, right, he's blown away,right, he must be blown away.
I don't even know if he knowsYou've got to be kidding me.
I don't know You've got to bekidding me.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
I'm just there for the conversation.
The little mosh pit the littlevodka shots, right?
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but he's a very important.
No, not that.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
What Not the vodka shots?
He's 18.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Oh, no vodka shots, that's right.
No vodka shots, absolutely not.
No, having what's it called thegrape juice, that hideous grape
juice.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Manischewitz.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Manischewitz grape juice.
Yes, okay, I'm getting RabbiLevy in trouble, you're getting
me in trouble, you're in trouble.
No, um, you it the Chabad house.
I went to be you to the Chabadhouse.
I was there every week.
I it was Rabbi Posner, lastname where's Rabbi Posner these
days?
Speaker 2 (18:15):
he's there, he's still there, rabbi Posner we
have to have him on the show.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I don't know if I'm ready.
He's.
He's such a huge thing in mylife I I have to prepare, okay.
I have to prepare Speaking ofpreparing.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
This is also Aaron's first podcast ever.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Thank God this is your first.
I'm so glad this is your firstpodcast, so okay.
So just to end up that, so youhave a Chabad house that you go
to at UPenn and utilize that andlearn about the Rebbe.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Yeah, are you Chabadnik?
Are you Chabad?
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Yes, is this shirt black?
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Everybody is Chabad Okay.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Some people just don't know they are I see, yeah,
you're Chabad too, you're alsoChabad.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
The work you're doing is a Chabad work, chabad's good
.
I'm an emissary of theLubavitch Rebbe.
There you go.
I can tell you that I'm likeRabbi Levi Mashiach.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Mashiach energy Absolutely Makes sense.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Yeah, what are you looking like?
Speaker 2 (19:13):
that, for I'm digesting that we're all Chabad.
I didn't know we were allChabad, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
When you send all that stuff to Israel and all you
do all the volunteer work andyou did Chabad.
That's what that is.
That's what that's abouthelping others Please.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
It's a different episode.
It's a different episode.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
My sister she's.
She's very close with the MITChabad.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Wow, I don't know.
Only thing now missing isHarvard.
You have UPenn, mit and Harvard.
Those are the three presidentsthat got fired.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Okay, we have Harvard , my niece was at Harvard.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
What's the vibe on the anti-Semites scene at Penn?
What's going on now?
Speaker 3 (19:54):
It's much quieter than before.
I got there, for sure, myparents were worried just
because Penn was a focal point,but after the whole thing with
the president, liz McGill andit's just quieted down.
So you know, the current likethe current administration under
the interim president is justvery anti, like any political
(20:17):
demonstration.
I mean there's beendemonstrations but they've like
walked around campus.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Not right, but you feel like, as a jewish student
on campus, like you can bejewish, yeah yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I I think it's definitely not what my parents,
like, were worried about, forsure, like there's yeah, you
know, people walk around it'svery encouraging to meet people
walk around pen with the yamakas.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yeah, their stars out and they're, bring them home
pins and all that and the vibeis a little easier now it's
easier I there's also peoplewalking around with keffiyeh,
but it's like which?
Is okay.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
It's like a mutual like it's just peaceful
demonstration.
That's how it should be.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
It's just how it should be.
There's nothing I love morethan seeing a keffiyeh or Not a
keffiyeh, so much but the hijabswomen.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Much of it was the the hijabs women with hijabs in
in my audience makes me so happy.
It's I love seeing like thepalestinian flag with the
israeli flag and a little dovetogether.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Yeah, that's the point.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Yeah, yeah, it's, that's that's I mean ultimately
right it's gonna have to come tothat right.
I mean, there's no like it'sgonna have to come to a
resolution eventually.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yes, it has to come and everybody has to feel like
they won.
That's the main thing.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Everybody loses and everybody wins.
Right, that's the nature ofcompromise.
You have to give up a littlebit.
Everybody has to move a littlebit towards each other.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Okay yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
No problem.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
I took APUSus history great compromiser, uh clay I
think was his name and he wasbig during the founding and he
basically brought the two sidesI mean the parties were
different then but he was like,this guy was like, look, let's
just find a middle ground andmove on, when everyone was being
(22:07):
very you know I mean it's not anew thing to like be stuck in
your ideology and like you can'tcompromise but yeah, so a lot
of legislation was passedbecause he was able to.
You know, compromise.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Yeah, so you are at a very storied school, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Well, obviously the incoming president went to
exactly pen.
How do you feel about that?
Speaker 3 (22:30):
about.
Well, I think you know, pendefinitely distances themselves
from, from trump.
Uh, I do, I would say so.
I, I mean, you know there's nobuildings named after him.
I don't know if he donated, soyou know that could be, but I, I
mean, I don't know if I couldsay that for certain, but well,
(22:50):
there's definitely no buildingsnamed after him.
I don't know if they're reallydistancing themselves from him
or if he's distancing himselffrom them.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
I mean, hard to say.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
But there's definitely not a lot of
affiliation, although, like inthe debate, he was like oh, you
know Wharton, like I'm fromWharton, like I'm from Wharton.
During the debate there werelike three or four references to
Penn.
Yeah, the presidential debateand I was in like a watch party
and everyone went crazy.
And then, yeah, I mean yeah.
So it's nice to be likesomewhere that's very relevant
(23:16):
and current and yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
And Elon Musk.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Elon Musk?
Yeah, he lived a few doors downbasically from where I live
when he was an RA of my building, like in the 90s or something.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Could you imagine Elon Musk as your RA?
Hey guys, let's just plugeverything at once and see what
happens.
Yes, I can't imagine going toschool with Elon Musk.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Well, I'm sure he's, do you have?
Speaker 1 (23:46):
any Elon Musk-y guys in your Like, you can tell these
are the next Elon Musks in yourschool.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
I don't know if I could say Like, yeah, I don't
know, elon Musk is a very uniqueguy, so hard to predict.
I'm sure Elon Musk, if youlooked at Elon Musk when he was
at Penn, you wouldn't be able tosay he was the next Elon Musk.
I'm sure he stuck out.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
I'm sure he stuck out .
I'm sure he was somethingunique.
Someone said that's going to besomething unique.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Anyway, back to Clio.
Sure Back to Clio.
Where do you see it going?
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Yeah, I mean I don't see a reason why it couldn't be
in any high school.
You know like there's so manyhigh schools but there's also so
many seniors and there's youknow a million different
directions.
We can take it where we can dolike house calls or something
(24:44):
Like right now we're just doingsomething very simple, something
that we can manage, which islike a high school visits
retirement home or senior living, something like right now we're
just doing something verysimple, something that we can
manage, which is like a highschool visits a retirement home
or senior living, something likethat.
Um, but you know, I think we'llwe'll take it as we go.
Um, but right now we're justlooking to expand and um make a
big impact with the with thisidea.
I think like it's easy to tellwhen an idea is really good
(25:09):
because it there's no resistanceto like spreading that idea.
Like there's no, no one'slosing in this situation.
You don't have to sell anyoneon Clio People.
You know kids need something todo for their resume
realistically and seniors needhelp with their devices.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
It's so funny to say that the kids need this for
their resume.
I mean, they do.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
I'm not.
I'm a realist here.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Right, but you understand that this is more
than just.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Oh, 100%.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
This is a very spiritual thing you're doing,
definitely It's're doing.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
It's not, it's not, it's, you know, it's not uh but
I I think that that is somethingthat even like that's something
that you realize after youstart doing it like what's?
Speaker 1 (25:57):
like an amazing story you had, like a one-on-one
connection with with one of theseniors, like some story that
they told you that blew you away, and like it was life-changing
I mean they're they always just,they always just are so willing
to put themselves out because,like, a lot of them are pretty
lonely, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
So you know everything from like family
members like passed away andit's something like that's one
of the reasons why we try tolimit to high school, because
you know, if you have likelittle kids, like it's just,
it's, it sometimes can be a bitemotionally mature, like you
need to be emotionally mature.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
So you know, we had people who we we volunteered
with helping them and then theywould pass away, like over the
course of the time that we werethere, you know.
So it's just, it can be very,very like.
So you got back and theyweren't there the following week
.
Yeah, you know, like uh, oneday one of the people who would
regularly come was like hewasn't there and there's a
(26:58):
picture of him on the on thepiano, you know, and a little
like in memoriam, and it's very,it's very.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
You know it can be very tough, but I think it like
it because as a high school, asa high school student, you
haven't dealt with they haven'tdealt with death.
Your parents, your grandparents, are still alive.
Your parents are still well,unless there was some kind of
like super traumatic thing insomeone's house and all of a
sudden, you're dealing withdeath.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Yeah, yeah, so you know it.
You know there was a lot ofstories Like there was one lady
who she would come often and herfriend would come and you know
one of them stopped comingbecause she had complications in
the surgery she passed away.
The other one started comingand bringing the other, the, the
(27:45):
friend's dog, because someoneneeded to take care of her dog.
So the dog was passed to thefriend and so you know yeah,
it's a lot of you know it ittakes like sometimes you have to
step back and sort of like yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
And now that everyone in like your world knows that
you do this, or it's likeeverybody's grandparents,
including your own, like, callyou like this, or it's like
everybody's grandparents,including your own, like,
calling you like.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Aaron, that's funny.
Yeah, uh, not really.
I mean my grandparents it was.
You know I helped them a lotbefore, but uh, yeah, I think
they, people, people are morelikely to call their own, their
own grandkids.
But we, you know we but we getemails from people's
grandparents, people we don'tknow who email us off our
(28:33):
website, which is good for them,and they're like yeah, I'm
struggling with technology, canyou help us?
And it's tough because youcan't.
How do you approach a seniorwho needs help when you have to
find a school and be like findus kids to run this program?
It's very hard to organize.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
That's great, though I mean.
That's really the key, then,right.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Obviously these people can't get on a Zoom call
with you.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Right, and that's the that's.
That's one.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
you know it's hard to connect digitally with them, so
I want, I just retirementcenter, senior living needs to
get like linked up with likelocal high schools.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Yeah, I mean it's a brilliant model.
We definitely.
Yeah, that's something thatwe're we're thinking about how
to implement like a way toactually do some kind of
algorithmic like.
We have, you know, a map fullof people who have reached out
to us in some kind of pairing orsome way to you way to reach
out.
I mean it's manual right now.
(29:37):
So a lot of times when a seniorwill reach out to us at a
certain senior living place,we'll say get us in touch with
your admin.
Social worker people Like theadministration and then we'll
try to see what we can do.
That's great.
It's very difficult to do itthe other way, from this
(30:00):
starting with a senior facilityand moving to a high school,
because you know you needsomeone who has, like, the
motivation to really take on theeffort.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
It's easier to start with a high school and then sort
of figure it out, send them tothe….
I mean there's been very fewthat I know, these senior living
places that have said no, youknow they all would love… and so
who's the… what's the firstpoint of contact at like a high
school that you guys talk toLike who do you need at these
(30:32):
high schools to then facilitatethat connection?
Speaker 3 (30:36):
We're mostly.
We mostly start with a kid whowants to start the club.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Wow, that's cool.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
And it's really just because we we, we work with
whoever wants to work with us.
So it's just right.
Now we don't have a greatoutreach program.
It's a lot of you know, most ofthe publicity we have came from
that story on CBS and then theyre-aired it like a month ago
and we got a huge second waveand you know.
(31:01):
So now we're up to we were at15 before this, then this aired.
Now we're working with like 40schools.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Wow, wow yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
So we're, we're, we're slowly building it, we're
fine.
We're thinking of ways toencourage kids who are already
involved to like show this totheir friends and maybe like, if
a chapter is fully establishedand they start volunteering, to
give them like a little like $10, like referral bonus just for
helping us expand, and stufflike that.
You know, we're just trying tothink of ways to keep it going,
(31:31):
you know, because that's thehardest.
That's the hardest part of theequation is finding the people
to to run the program at theschools.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
That's amazing I have a high school kid for you who
is gonna love to do this.
No, no, not mine.
You know what else you couldgive them instead of a $10
referral?
What you could give them an aand h provision gift card an a
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I told him about you last night.
I had dinner with him lastnight and he's his friend
sponsored the podcast and he'sgoing to.
This is right up his alley,this is right up his alley.
He's going to love this andhelp you guys out for sure.
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(33:01):
What else is happening there?
Do you have a girlfriend out inPenn?
Speaker 3 (33:04):
No.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
I'm looking, you're looking.
Yes, what are you looking forin a girlfriend?
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Get Aliza on the phone.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
I don't need Aliza, I can handle his matchmaking
situation.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
I'm looking for someone who lives in my area.
That's very, that's not a biglook.
No, no, I just I don't knowwhen you go on dates with girls.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
18 year olds now go on dates with girls.
What's the conversation?
What's up?
Speaker 2 (33:41):
I feel like it's just it's.
You know, it's easy to telllike wait, sorry, this is really
interesting.
How do you?
Speaker 3 (33:43):
meet.
Like you guys aren't on appsdating, right, not no, some
people.
So even like at 18, you guysare meeting well, it's like not
really for dating, it's more forpeople like hooking up whatever
okay yeah, okay, and what's uh,and what's the conversation?
Speaker 1 (33:56):
What do you guys talk about?
Now, when you got?
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Just I don't know it.
Just there's no like one thing.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
So you know, I was at an event for single young
Jewish singles thing andsomebody asked me like what's a
good joke?
What should we talk about onthese dates?
I always talk again.
Everything goes back to theRebbe, the Lubavitcher.
Rebbe said when two people meet, the first thing they should
talk about is how to helpsomebody else.
So on your dates, when you goout with these girls you,
(34:25):
obviously, but find out what sheis interested in.
You can tell a lot about aperson by what they want to help
with, you know.
So obviously you're killing itLike I started.
Cleo, what do you have?
You're literally at that.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
You're literally at that.
That must be a great talk.
Yeah, you got that crazy.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
You know, there's this camp called Camp Hask.
It's this camp upstate thathelps kids.
It's a camp, a full-blownsummer camp for kids with all
kinds of disabilities andstruggles that you can't imagine
.
Some of them need threecounselors a kid and the kids
that work with them are nextlevel of Moshiach energy.
(35:10):
And I always say, if you'reever on a date on a Shidduch
date or whatever date with a kidwho worked at Camp Hask, don't
let this go.
This is you, don't let this.
Make sure you hold on to itSomebody that meets you.
You have to understand youbegan Cleo, cleo, cleo.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Yeah, no.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Don't do that, that's not nice, you're killing it,
but that's when you're on thesedates and you really want to.
Don't ask her like where do yousee yourself?
What corporation do you want towork at?
Or religious kids?
Are you going to cover yourarms?
Are you going to cover yourhead?
Are you going to cover yourthat?
What are you going to do in themorning?
(35:51):
Are you going to play with thewater right by your bed?
How you're that?
What are you going to do in themorning?
And you're going to play withthe water right by your bed?
Ask him how are you going tohelp the world?
How are you going to createmashiach energy?
Just ask that.
In your next date, ask a girlhow are you going to create
mashiach energy?
And just see if her head blowsoff and goes up.
What the hell are you talkingabout?
And you say I was on modi'spodcast and he told me he told
me to do it.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
I don't it.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
I don't know, I don't know, I think I would lead with
that baby first.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
What?
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Because I was on Moni's podcast, sorry, by the
way.
Let me ask you a question.
I've been learning so muchabout Gen Z's.
Now, right, that's what you are.
You guys don't watch comedyspecials.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
I mean, I've seen a couple.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
You have fully Fully, from beginning to end.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Which ones, which ones Wait?
Speaker 3 (36:39):
I haven't seen one in a while, but… Wait, when I…
Okay, so I was learning this, bythe way, when I… I think a
couple years ago I watched oneof Bo Burnham's comedy shows.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Okay, it was on Netflix, Puppets right.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Puppets.
He does like music, he doeslike songs and stuff.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
So I've learned this recently Young people are not
watching comedy specials, theyjust watch clips.
Yeah, yeah yeah, they don'teven know that there's like a
special.
They just think that the guycomes on does this one-minute
joke and comes off.
They don't understand.
That's a part of a special,it's so….
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Well, everything you know, the funniest… Some of the
funniest things I've ever seen….
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Yeah, are my clips Like… Yep, okay, what?
Speaker 3 (37:24):
else, where…, where…, where… Like 30 second nonsense
videos.
There's like an idea calledbrain rot.
Yeah when it's like thesevideos that are so dumb.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Yes, it's like making your brain rot Because you guys
grew up with phones.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
How old were?
Speaker 2 (37:42):
you when you got a phone.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
I was nine.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Yeah, that's insane.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Because, they didn't know when he was nine that it's
really bad to give little kidsphones like that.
Now we know we're 10 years,nine years out.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Like my son's 11.
Like all the messaging is underno circumstances are you to let
this child?
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Yeah, oh, they told you that.
Now, oh my God, of course,what's the age supposed to give
the kid a phone?
Speaker 2 (38:12):
A smartphone should not be before, like really high
school, like they don't wantwhich is what year?
Speaker 1 (38:17):
I don't know, I don't know like 15?
Speaker 2 (38:19):
15.
Like social media is like ahard absolutely not.
It is the most dangerous thing.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
And so you got it at nine.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Right.
I had to do a lot of convincing.
I pulled out the.
We have AT&T and they had somekind of deal where it's like, if
you add another line, I waslike, look, you're going to save
so much money by getting me aphone.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Even at nine years old, at nine years old.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
You're negotiating with your parents.
Hilarious Good for you.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
But yeah, I mean it was fine, I think, look, I think
I end up okay, but I still haveproblems sometimes, like with
just not being on my phone.
You know, I mean it's hard forall of us.
So one thing that helped me alot was I grew up going to
summer camp, okay, and where, ifI have to go New Hampshire,
it's called Camp Sunapee.
(39:11):
It's a Russian Jewish, jewishcamp, yeah, and you know, for
two, two, four weeks tosometimes two, or you could go
for four.
You have no phone in the middleof the summer and you're, you
know, in nature and it was veryhealthy, I think.
And now this summer I'm goingback with my best friend to run
the camp as, like the, theleaders of the whole, the whole.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
And a counselor.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
No, like the like the whole, the whole camp like.
I'm leading the camp as, likethe, the leaders of the whole,
the whole counselor, no, likethe, like the whole the whole
camp.
Like I'm leading the camp withmy best friend.
Yeah, so excited.
Yeah, this is my it's gonna bemy 10th summer, but yeah, it's
gonna be really good and uh,yeah, I think that was honestly
the real value of the camp wasthat I had a few weeks every
year with no phone, and I thinkmost people don't have that
(40:00):
right now.
I can't.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
It's so funny.
I remember, you know, like whenthe kids went to camp back in
the day was just to see nature.
Now it's like you have arespite from your phone.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
It's not.
It wasn't even no phone.
It was like no outsideinformation period.
Like if a counselor is caughtlike giving their phone to a
camper, they're fired Like it'snot.
It wasn't even no phone.
It was like no outsideinformation period.
Like if a counselor is caughtlike giving their phone to a
camper, they're fired like it'sa it's it's like on lockdown.
The only access you have to theoutside world is every day,
like parents and people can sendemails, and once a day they
print the emails and give themout and that's all.
(40:31):
That's the only contact thereis with the outside world.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Oh, my God.
So I went to camp in 1979 to 80, whatever five years after that
would be 83, 84.
And the big thing was likepackages when you get a package.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Yes, I remember that.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Every day in the afternoon you went and they put
the packages out and if you sawone with your name, you were in
heaven, yes, heaven.
And then you had the phone callModi, your mother is on the
phone and you ran to theheadquarter bunk.
I went to Camp Scatico and youwent to the headquarter and you
answered the phone.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
How old were you when you?
Went the headquarter and youanswered the phone.
How old were you when you went?
Speaker 1 (41:15):
I was nine to 14.
Wow, five years at Camp Scaticowhen is that?
In the Berkshires?
And it was.
That was like.
And my parents were like no,this is good, you have to go for
nature, you have to be innature.
I'm like what?
And he goes are you guys goingto nature?
(41:36):
No, we're going to Paris andthere's this thing called
visiting day.
I don't know if we're going tobe on this visiting day.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
Yeah, it's the same with us.
We actually have well the samewith us that parents take the
opportunity to go on vacation,but, uh, we have, uh, no phones,
no phone calls.
Yeah, so, like a parent, youknow, through this sign up
process, the parents have ourphone numbers and we're
instructed like, if you get atext message from a parent,
don't answer.
You keep your phones, thoughyou have your phone like
(42:07):
counselors counselors okay.
So yeah, no phones.
And I know, and I'veexperienced it's really weird, I
experienced it as a camper andthen experienced it as a
counselor as well that when akid hasn't heard the sound of
their mom's voice for two weeksor for a week and a half, and
they're really homesick and theylike somehow get through and
(42:27):
convince someone to let themhave a phone call, they just
break down in tears becausethey're so homesick.
And it happened to me once whenI got pretty sick.
So I was in the nurse's cabinby myself for like three, four
days and bad summer, and theydidn't let me have my phone
still.
So I was just sitting therelike playing cards with myself.
(42:49):
Like you know, I had, I think,a roommate who was a few years
younger than me, but it was notideal, and they let me call my
mom and I was completely normal.
And then I pick up the phoneand I'm like I just break down
because I haven't heard hervoice.
I'm so like miserable.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
So yeah, that's amazing, first of all.
So now we're learning a wholeother element to you you not
only are you able to counselseniors people in their in their
last, like chapter of theirlives, you're also a counselor
to, to, to young kids in campyeah, that came first.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
Yeah, camp was the?
Definitely, I mean, it was veryspecial they.
We also have a like an Israelcamp that uh is like American
counselors can volunteer to becounselors in the Israel camp
and it's for it's uh, you know,it's Darot yeah yeah, it's for
Darot kids, yeah and uh.
(43:47):
So it's all run by the samekind of it's in Darot, that's
where it's.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
It's in Tel.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
Aviv.
But they take kids from Sderotbut they don't want to do it
there, just for like, naturally,like the idea is to get them
out of Sderot for some time, fora little time.
Yeah, like no, you know, sothey don't have to deal with,
like all the sirens and whatnot.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
So come to this camp.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
No, they go to Tel Aviv, in Tel Aviv, and American
counselors go to Tel Aviv fromthis camp, go to Tel Aviv to be
the counselors to the kids fromSterot.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Yeah, so the gain there is that they meet American
kids, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
Well, it's like we just basically do a replica of
our camp in the US for them andwe do like English classes for
them, and so the last year wewere not able to do it, and so
we flew them out to come to ourcamp.
Oh wow or not all of them.
We flew like a subset of like20 kids 20 kids is a lot.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
That's amazing, but it was a whole fundraising thing
.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
And then we got them out to come to our camp and they
got to see like where this allcame from, where their camp is.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
That's amazing, can you?
Speaker 3 (45:05):
imagine 20 kids from Sterot getting flown out to some
camp in New HampshireUnbelievable.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Many of them had never been out of the country.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
Oh, I'm sure, I'm sure.
And then they just turned on.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
I'm sure many of them had never been out of Sterot
before.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
To not hear sirens, to not hear Israeli news, to not
hear Hebrew.
It's just, you know.
It's just.
Wow, you keep blowing me away.
First it was Chloe, then it wasthe Chabad on campus that
you're a part of.
Now you're teaching kids,You're also a counselor to kids
and adults.
And this Israeli thinker whatelse?
(45:37):
What else are you hiding fromus?
There's nothing else.
There's nothing else.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
Well, the.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Where do you see yourself, I can imagine In five
years.
Are you in law school?
Are you in?
What's the deal?
Speaker 3 (45:51):
I don't know.
I mean, that's like I I feelstrongly that I'll figure it out
, but I don't have an answer tothat question okay, that's also
an answer.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Yeah, what are your parents like?
Just what like in general yeah,like what do they do?
Speaker 3 (46:04):
are they I'm proud of you.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
They're like my son.
Began chloe period, cleo nowyou're doing it.
No, I don't, I'm really at thispoint, how am I going to
remember this?
Yeah, cleo.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Cleopatra.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
Cleopatra, perfect Cleopatra.
That's good, okay.
So do they walk around sayingmy son here?
Did you see this video of myson?
I don't think they do.
My mother would tell everybodywhat.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
They're.
You know they're proud, they'revery proud, but they don't, you
know they don't.
They're not.
They don't like to show off.
You know they're modest.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Where are they?
They're in.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
Fort Myers.
Dad's a doctor, mom's a nurse.
They met in Tel Aviv University, stop, yeah, and then.
But they're, you know, they'revery happy.
I have two siblings and we allare doing very well, so they
have no, they have no complaints.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
So well, they did a good job.
They did a great job.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
Are you kidding me?
I couldn't have asked forbetter parents.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
Oh yes.
I hope your son gives you athumb up.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
I know, I was just thinking that Is your son going
to give you a thumbs up?
I think so.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Oh, your son's going to be like they didn't give me a
phone until 15.
But, believe me, that was theleast of my problems.
Let me show you here's my mom,and then you come roaring in I
think um, I think my son knowshe's got a pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Oh, he's so cool.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
Her son's like super cool, uh-huh yeah, he's like
cool in a different, like you'recool in the way you're in your,
in your world, like, and thiswhole thing is amazing.
And her son's going to be cool.
He's creative.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
His mind thinks differently yeah, he's, he's
Mashiach, energy too.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
He really is how old is he?
Speaker 2 (47:46):
he's 11.
Speaker 3 (47:47):
Oh, that's right 11 year olds are pretty cool he's
pretty magical.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
wait a second, you, the Luigi Mangione kid, the one
who killed the CEO.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
Yeah, not Mashiach Energy.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
You're doing very well for your first podcast.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
You're killing it.
I mean, yeah, that's the talkof Penn.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
By the way, pick up your head a little bit and cover
here.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
Oh yeah, I have a green jacket that looks exactly
like it and I was wearing it theother day, and then I went to
the bathroom to wash my handsand I realized that's why I took
it off.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
Because I looked a little bit like.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
You're not, luigi.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
With the eyebrows are killing it.
You have the yeah, Look intothe camera, Pick up, pick up.
So there's no like that, likethis Okay, and then cover here
like that, ladies and gentlemen,luigi, yeah, I hope Luigi no
but God forbid you're.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
You're not going to, not gonna, but wait.
Speaker 3 (48:52):
This is the talk, like everybody on campus is
talking about this because hewent to your school yes, yeah, I
mean it was funny because theday before it came out that it
was him there was another bigthing that was blowing up that,
like you know, there was somedrama about frats and everyone
was talking about it.
It was something really dumb.
And then it came, and then thisthing came out the next day and
(49:12):
it was like the next thing.
Like everyone was like nothingcan get crazier than this thing,
which in retrospect was reallynot that interesting.
And then this luigi thing cameout.
That was like totally insane,because he's well, first of all,
I'm studying basically likealmost computer science.
It's called ai is the majorname, but it's like it's
basically computer science withlike some modifications.
(49:35):
And he studied computer scienceat Penn.
He had the same professors.
He, you know, took the sameclasses.
He was a TA for you know theclass I'm taking next semester,
the head, like he was, you know,in the same frat as I'm in.
I'm in a club called hack forimpact.
We do like just build littleprojects for like nonprofits
basically, and he was not in theclub, but he Impact.
We just build little projectsfor non-profits, basically, and
(49:56):
he was not in the club, but hewas in the same frat as a bunch
of the.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
There's a lot of comedians I know that are in a
club called Hack for Impact.
A lot of comedians I know arein that club too.
But go ahead.
Thank you, Keep going.
Speaker 3 (50:10):
So that's, there are people freaking out On side chat
.
People are very like theyadmire.
They're very Under the word.
They, yeah, they're, they're,they're saying a lot of like,
very nice things.
They're like oh, I love Luigiso cute.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
Are you serious?
Yeah, yeah, more well, nopeople, people online all over
the internet.
Speaker 3 (50:33):
Are like that yeah, they were there.
They like, yeah, it's all overthe internet.
Speaker 1 (50:35):
Are like that they are doting over.
Yeah, they're not just there,it's all over the place.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
Yeah, but I feel like also, now that this initial
thing has settled, we understandthat this is a terrible, insane
thing.
For, as awful as the healthcaresystem is, murdering somebody
who has a family in broaddaylight is not the way to
handle that right well, itwasn't broad daylight, it was
(50:59):
still dark, but it but.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
But he.
It's not good, but the factthat it was the ceo of, like the
biggest, the biggest or healthnightmare health corporation and
um, and, and he happens to bean attractive killer right, that
helped.
Also.
If he was ugly, no one wouldcare that's true.
That's true, you're right aboutit's a big thing, um and so but
(51:21):
, but it's, it's not.
It's crazy.
It shows you that the world'scrazy.
It shows that everybody's on onluigi's side is like.
It shows that the world's notwell it's unhinged and you know
I just you really.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
I have been really um upset since october about with
you, know everybody else what'sgoing on in the world and really
looking at like your generationbeing like we are fucked.
But meeting you and hearingeverything about what you and
all of your friends are doingreally gives me a lot of hope
(51:55):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
What a great way to bring this in.
I am telling you right now I'mlooking at you and I see pure
Moshiach energy and I don't meetcollege kids that you know when
I do shows I don't meet themafterwards and all that, but
they're in there.
They're in my shows.
I'm shocked that there's anhour worth of comedy to be told.
It's really.
(52:18):
I can't thank you enough.
You brought me hope today, mypleasure.
Speaker 3 (52:22):
I loved being here.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
And, please, I'm going to give you a yarmulke to
bring to Rabbi Levy and find outhis last name and you'll text
it to me and that's it.
And if you ever need anythingfrom us, we'll let you know.
Speaker 2 (52:38):
I'm going to put you together with Arthur and we're
going to take you to see, likecomedy shows, I feel like, yeah,
so is it difficult to get inand out from Penn to New York
City?
Speaker 3 (52:51):
I just took the Amtrak.
I mean Philadelphia is right,so it was like an hour and a
half Amtrak.
Speaker 2 (52:56):
Hour and a little bit .
Speaker 3 (52:57):
The only thing is he's in the middle of finals,
right now Busy with school alittle bit, but you know there's
always time.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
Thank you very much for coming to the podcast and I
just want to say this because bythe time we air this, we will
be after, but you havethree-shatteringly huge shows
coming up next week, thisupcoming week, yeah yeah, my
finals are also coming up, thereyou go.
Speaker 3 (53:24):
I have three finals next week, but I'm looking
forward to mine.
Are you looking forward to yourfinals?
I'm looking forward to themoment the last final ends.
Speaker 1 (53:36):
I'm telling you, I'm focusing on looking forward to
being in the final in theseGotham finals.
They're just big episodes of mylife.
These big three shows at theBeacon Theater, 3,000 people and
just the hour, and change isamazing and people are excited,
I'm excited.
It's what a great Friday theShabbos, before the shows to
(53:57):
meet you and um, and that's it.
Besides the beacon shows thatare already going to be after
this, modilivecom, we have showsin um.
Okay, we have.
We're in Austin and Houston onthe 22nd, on the 21st, 22nd,
23rd.
Houston on the 22nd, on the21st, 22nd, 23rd.
Go to Motilivecom and find outwhich shows are for you in there
(54:19):
and get tickets and be thefriend that brings the friends
to the comedy show.
Also, florida the 6th, andwe'll be in Fort Lauderdale and
then Tampa on the 13th and thenback to Fort Lauderdale for the
16th, 17th and 18th.
And then there's shows in MarchLA, la.
Get your tickets before they'regone.
March 20th and all the othershows around that.
(54:42):
Everything's available onModiLivecom.
Get your tickets and then alsowhat's your Instagram?
Speaker 3 (54:49):
Aaron Smolyar.
Speaker (54:56):
A-A-R-O-N-S-M-O-L-Y-A-R .
One word Hit him up if you havea single daughter and Cleopatra
, and Cleopatra, cleo.
Speaker 3 (55:01):
Cleo.
Yes, it's in my bio.
Speaker 1 (55:03):
Link in bio.
Link in bio and help him out,and that's unbelievable Moshiach
Energy.
Thank you so much for coming.
No problem, it's been great.
Everybody thanks for listening.
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