And So It Flows

And So It Flows

'And So It Flows' combines our unique blend of water music, water news, water culture and deep water talk. 'And So It Flows' brings water outside the cup. Moisten your ears every Tuesday @ 2pm on WTBR 89.7 FM - Pittsfield Community Radio. Or listen via podcast on Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, Podcast Addict, Youtube Music and many more podcast platforms. And, remember to love your water.

Episodes

And So It Flows - March 3, 2026 - 'From Active Duty To Rivers: Veterans Take On PCBs'

March 3, 2026 • 60 mins
In this episode, Leslie Gabriel, our host and H2O Ambassador, sits with Eric Wasileski of Pittsfield Veterans For Peace sharing about PCBs in the Housatonic River, teasing their upcoming Deep Dive event on environmental health and PCB remediation with Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Chris Hedges.
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And So It Flows - February 24, 2026 - 'Nourished by Land and Water: Building Strong Community Farms'

February 24, 2026 • 59 mins
In this episode, Leslie Gabriel, our host and H2O Ambassador, sits with Margaret Moulton of Berkshire Grown to share how supporting local farms builds stronger communities. Leslie and Margaret discuss bringing people closer to fresh, local food and how a regional food system strengthens the region.
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And So It Flows - February 17, 2026 - 'Abolish Ice?'

February 17, 2026 • 60 mins
Abolish Ice?, our third episode of our Cold As Ice series, our host and H2O Ambassador Leslie Gabriel sits with Fernando León, of Berkshire Interfaith Organizing. They discuss the vigilant response to ICE raids in Berkshire County. They discuss the growing American resistance to ICE.
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And So It Flows - February 3, 2026 - 'Berkshire Water Beat With Talia Lissauer'

February 3, 2026 • 60 mins
In this episode, Leslie Gabriel, our host and H2O Ambassador, sits with Talia Lissauer, rising star journalist of The Berkshire Eagle. Talia discusses her recent deep dive into the 100 year plus struggle inside the Housatonic, Great Barrington, MA struggle to get clean running water to its people.
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And So It Flows - January 27, 2026 - 'The Snowmageddon Show'

January 27, 2026 • 60 mins
In this episode, Leslie Gabriel, our host and H2O Ambassador focuses on the recent three feet of Snowmageddon. Leslie’s flows goes ICE cold. He leans into winter, in rock and roll, deep thought, poetry, comedy and the magic of a frozen water related Berkshire winter, proof that the storm is the show.
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And So It Flows - January 20, 2026 - 'A Water Win Grows In Great Barrington - With Donna Jacobs'

January 20, 2026 • 56 mins
In this episode, Leslie Gabriel, our host and H2O Ambassador, sits with Donna Jacobs, co-founder of the Housatonic Filter Initiative. Donna calls out Housatonic Water Works and their failure to protect public health. We dig into the Housatonic Filter Initiative and why clean, affordable water is a right.
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And So It Flows - January 6, 2026 - 'War Or Water - With Former USMC Capt Matthew Hoh'

January 6, 2026 • 56 mins
In this episode, Leslie Gabriel, our host and H2O Ambassador, sits with  USMC Capt. Matthew Hoh of the Eisenhower Media Network to confront endless war. We discuss military waste and argue for diplomacy, investing in water, healthcare, schools, reindustrialization – an economy that serves people.
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And So It Flows - December 9, 2025 - 'W.E.B. Du Bois And The Housatonic River: The Roots Of Environmental Justice'

December 9, 2025 • 59 mins
In this episode, Leslie Gabriel, our host and H2O Ambassador, sits with  Ari Zorn, co-chair of the W.E.B. Du Bois Sculpture Project. Ari shares how Du Bois helped shape today’s eco justice movement by connecting racism, health, and the fate of the Housatonic River, before the world had words for it.
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And So It Flows - November 25, 2025 - 'The Thirst of AI: Unmasking Tech’s Hidden Costs'

November 25, 2025 • 59 mins
In this episode, Leslie Gabriel, our host and H2O Ambassador, sits with Hari Kumar, of Convivo. Hari and Leslie discuss AI’s flawed and resource hungry design and why its eco-costs, especially water and energy use, matter more than ever. We explore impacts on people, on business, and on economics.
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And So It Flows - November 18, 2025 - 'Seeing Through Stillness: Art, Spirit And The Natural World'

November 18, 2025 • 60 mins
In this episode, Leslie Gabriel, our host and H2O Ambassador, sits with local artist Matthew Brinton to explore the intersection of art, spirit, and nature. From his Berkshire roots to his Thoreau related works, Matthew reflects on his own inspired path to the flow of expression, the arts and water.
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And So It Flows - November 4, 2025 - 'The Flow Home: A Veteran’s Story of Healing And Hope'

November 4, 2025 • 59 mins
In this episode, Leslie Gabriel, our host and H2O Ambassador, sits with Navy combat vet Eric Wasileski. From the high seas, to the sands of Iraq and back to the Berkshires, Eric shares his path of redemption to reach true inner peace and his founding of a Veterans for Peace chapter in Pittsfield, MA.
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And So It Flows - October 28, 2025 - 'Beyond the Swim: Water, Wellness, and Community Connection'

October 28, 2025 • 60 mins
In this episode, Leslie Gabriel, our host and H2O Ambassador, sits with Prashad Abeysinghe, Aquatics Director at the Gladys Allen Brigham Community Center, Prashad and Leslie to dive into the power of swimming, community, and water safety — and how the pool becomes a place where confidence, connection, and life skills flow.
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And So It Flows - October 21, 2025 - 'Currents Of Creation: Theater, Coral, and the Flow of Life'

October 21, 2025 • 60 mins
In this episode, Leslie Gabriel, our host and H2O Ambassador, sits with Williams College’s Amy Holzapfel. Leslie and Amy dive into the Crochet Coral Reef, a worldwide art and science project, where reefs are crocheted, stories are shared, as theater of life unfolds with connection, flow and science.
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And So It Flows - September 30, 2025 - 'Caribbean Flavors With Chef Andre Lynch'

September 30, 2025 • 60 mins
In this episode, Leslie Gabriel, our host and H2O Ambassador, sits with Chef Andre Lynch. Leslie and Andre discuss Caribbean flavors, hot jerk chicken, and a heaping splash of Caribbean island culture. They talk about food, spice, island life and why water is a partner for the islands’ best dishes.
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And So It Flows - September 23, 2025 - 'Fire and Water: Protecting People and the Planet'

September 23, 2025 • 60 mins
In this episode, Leslie Gabriel, our host and H2O Ambassador, sits with Lieutenant Scott McGinnis or the Pittsfield, MA Fire Department for an elemental conversation on fire safety, first responding, community outreach and how being a protector and environmentalist shapes his life’s mission
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And So It Flows - September 16, 2025 - 'Berkshire Water Beat With Leslee Bassman'

September 16, 2025 • 60 mins
In this episode, Leslie Gabriel, our host and H2O Ambassador, sits with Leslee Bassman, award-winning journalist of The Berkshire Edge. Leslee discusses the long delayed MA Dept Of Health’s Housatonic River PCB Cancer Study and the report’s various omissions for Berkshire residents and stakeholders.
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And So It Flows - September 9, 2025 - 'Water on the Ballot: Stronger Communities Through Action - With Jeromie Whalen'

September 9, 2025 • 60 mins
In this episode, Leslie Gabriel, our host and H2O Ambassador, sits with Jeromie Whalen, congressional candidate for MA’s 1st District.Jeromie and Leslie talk PFAS in Westfield, PCBs in the Housatonic, and how smart  investments bioremediation and water infrastructure secures stronger communities.
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And So It Flows - September 2, 2025 - Not Joshing Around, Flowing Forward: The Spirit of the Josh Billings RunAground Triathlon

September 2, 2025 • 60 mins
In this episode, Leslie Gabriel, our host and H2O Ambassador, sits with Brian Berkel, of the Josh Billings RunAground Triathlon. Brian shares about the event’s natural spirit, the culture impact of Berkshire born humorist Josh Billings; and how nature can help heal post-industrial cities of the US.
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And So It Flows - July 29, 2025 - Crushed Ice

July 29, 2025 • 61 mins
Crushed Ice, our second episode of our Cold As Ice series, our host and H2O Ambassador Leslie Gabriel sits with Fernando León, of Berkshire Interfaith Organizing. They discuss the vigilant response to ICE raids in Berkshire County. They discuss the impact on neighbors and discuss the app ICE Block.
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And So It Flows - July 22, 2025 - 'River of Deceit'

July 22, 2025 • 60 mins
In this episode, Leslie Gabriel, our host and H2O Ambassador, sits with Bob Jones, of the Lee, MA Selectboard. Bob joins Leslie to discuss the town’s fierce resistance to a GE/EPA plan to dump PCBs in this Norman Rockwell town. A water fight with national impact, about truth, toxins, and standing up.
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