And So, She Left: Wisdom from Women Beyond the Corporate World

Back in 2006, Kiersten Hathcock was just trying to figure things out. 

She had left her job at A and E Television Networks a few years before and was bouncing around from town to town with her husband and their two kids.

As she was, Kiersten did the very last thing that anyone expected: she founded a children’s furniture company called Mod Mom Furniture. Then in 2024, after the brand received international recognition and acclaim fro...

Growing up in the South Side of Chicago, Amanda Moncada-Perkins wanted power.

Her family had few resources to make do with, so she became an attorney when she grew up to unlock a better future. And today, Amanda is the Founding Attorney of her own firm, Stoutegy Law. But stepping into her power as a lawyer wasn’t without some major caveats.

Amanda was pulling brutal 70 to 80-hour weeks while she was working at major firms. She recall...

When Janice Person was first talking about farm-to-table in the 90's, people thought she was crazy.

Even with a journalism and communications background, she found it tough to share the perspectives of a minority group that we don’t think about very often: the farmers who grow it.  

When Janice started out, she was doing PR for the agrochemical juggernaut Monsanto. At Monsanto, she was given tools and resources to amplify the voice...

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Kaylin Marcotte’s early career wasn’t particularly fun.

But when she was training as a management consultant at IBM in 2013, she met two promising, young female founders who wanted to start a media company...called theSkimm. So, she left to become their first employee.

Kaylin’s days were pretty demanding, and she often played with jigsaw puzzles at home to unwind...

Lisa Lloyd will be the first to tell you that she’s not a genius...though she certainly seems like one.  

She invented her first product at 23, a hair styling tool called The French Twister, which eventually grossed $20 million. And over the years, she went on to license seven other products; getting featured on Shark Tank, Good Morning America, USA Today, The Big Idea, and more before starting the Lisa Lloyd Marketing Group. She’s...

When Polina Ruvinsky stepped into a leadership role at Disney, she was told to not ask for permission.

In 2018, she formed a women and tech employee group at the company. What started as a kind of experiment turned into a tight-knit community, allowing women at the company to come together, brainstorm, and offer support. The ripple effect of Polina’s community can still be felt: the group is now designated as a Business Employee Re...

Content Warning: This episode deals with sensitive topics like suicide, PTSD, divorce, and poor mental health.  

On the surface, Tereson Dupuy has led a pretty good life.  

She successfully ran her business FuzziBunz Diapers for almost two decades and kickstarted the modern cloth diapering movement. All in all, she sold $32 million dollars worth of product.  

But beneath the surface, it’s a different story. Tereson’s dealt with trauma...

In her previous life as a corporate recruiter, Maisha Cannon put on what she describes as a kind of “mask.” 

She wasn’t fully herself. Often, she’d fade into the background to try and get ahead as a black woman in corporate America. But for Maisha, getting into entrepreneurship meant putting aside those incidents where she experienced bias. It meant stepping into herself and building the confidence she needed to start The Collab Lab...

At first glance, you probably couldn’t tell that Mallory Greene is in the funeral industry.  

She’s not an older, stuffy man in a dark suit…she’s a young woman who got her start as a member of Wealthsimple’s founding team. Today, she’s the CEO and Co-Founder of Eirene, a funeral service provider that’s disrupting the industry with their affordable prices and tech-driven approach.  

Much like Mallory herself, Eirene isn’t your typical...

Alina Kravchenko has always loved inventing. 

Alina defines her entrepreneurial success based on one simple factor: how much creativity she’s able to express as a founder. But being raised by a single mom in Ukraine and eventually becoming a single mom herself meant there was no shortage of people who looked down on them both. 

When she drained her 401K and secured a patent for SwipenSnap, her one-hand applicator for baby ointment,...

Bisila Bokoko says that our purpose is not defined by what we do...but by who we are.

Growing up in Valencia, Spain with mixed Spanish-African heritage came with a heavy dose of discomfort. But these experiences drove her to learn more about her heritage…to become what she calls “culturally intelligent.”

Cultural intelligence has been the key to Bisila’s success as a founder. By becoming culturally intelligent, she’s learned how rela...

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In 2015, Heather Odendaal founded the WNORTH conference.

The aim of WNORTH is simple: create more pathways for women to become business leaders through networking and collaboration. For the first 8 years, Heather worked as a solopreneur. Today, she's built a small but mighty team and together, they have grown WNORTH to seven chapter cities and launched a member...

Urbander CEO Samí Haiman-Marrero describes herself as an armadillo.  

She’s got thick skin, she’s scrappy, and she can smell insincerity from a mile away.  

Samí spent almost her entire life in Puerto Rico, but you can tell right away that she has roots in the Bronx. When she came back to New York to work in media and publishing, she soon found herself grappling with some harsh realities, dealing with cultural and social environments...

And So, She Left returns January 24.  

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Hosted by Katherin Vasilopoulos. Made by Cansulta and Ethan Lee.
Music by © Chris Zabriskie, published by You've Been a Wonderful Laugh Track (ASCAP). 

Songs used in this episode include: "Short Song 020923."

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Entrepreneurs love to set lofty, ambitious goals for ourselves…after all, it’s in our nature. But what separates those of us who reach our goals from those who don’t are the skills we obtain and use to get there.  

Leah Carr’s approach to entrepreneurship is a highly grounded one. She’s the CEO of a learning and development company called TILR (that’s T.I.L.R.). They help HR teams and people leaders to hone in on the proficiencies t...

Every once in a while, we hear a story that floors us. Christelle Biiga’s story is one of them.

Today, she gets clients in front of the right podcast audiences to grow their businesses. Her company is called Exposure Maven. 

As a young girl in Cameroon, she bought into the American Dream. She knew no one in the states. Had no family or friends stateside. And could barely speak English at the time. But she still bought a one-way tic...

If you asked your clients to describe you, what would they say? Today, customers want to know who you are.  We’re living in the age of personal branding. 

Christina Minshull spent 15+ years in brand and social marketing for companies like SportCheck, WestJet, and LinkedIn. Today, Christina helps CEOs, Founders and brands unleash their LinkedIn potential through her company The Brand Audit.  

Across LinkedIn and TikTok she’s amassed a...

No one warns you about the loss of structure when you leave the corporate womb. Suddenly, it’s all up to you.  

You’re the boss. You make the decisions. And you need to pin down the principles that create structure in your work life…or face the consequences.

Michelle Peters is the CEO of Supplino, a thriving supply chain marketplace. When she left corporate, she fell victim to hustle culture, overwork, and burnout. Facing each of t...

Constriction and guidance are the two sides to the feedback coin. But sometimes, we have to squint to tell which is which. Can you?

As a clinical psychologist, Cindy Wahler faced constant doubt. She was told that she’d never make it. But today, she uses her understanding of psychology to consult for organizations like Ralph Lauren, Exxon Mobile, and Toyota on effective leadership development.  

She also bakes cookies.

Cindy started Bi...