Bear Mountain Angus

In this episode I talk with Brian Stoller from Bear Mountain Angus about the origins of the ranch, his upcoming bull sale and bulls he's produced over the last 20 years. 

Episode Transcript

david_1_01-23-2025_1910 (00:25):
Welcome to Angus River Talk.
I'm your host David Gackley.
On today's episode, I have BrianStoller from Bear Mountain,
Angus.
Hey Brian, welcome to the show.

brian_1_01-23-2025_1710 (00:35):
Thanks.
Thanks for having me.

david_1_01-23-2025_191018 (00:37):
I just want to take a moment and
kind of let people know, youknow, it's a little bit inside
on these shows.
It's not always the easiestthing to put one of these shows
together because we're dealingwith real ranches, guys
shorthanded, they putting inlong days.
Brian just said he normally goesto bed at one in the morning.
Right now he's, he's calving.
He's having to get bulls readyfor a bull sale that's coming up

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on, is it February 16th?

brian_1_01-23-2025_17101 (01:01):
Sixth.

david_1_01-23-2025_191018 (01:02):
6th.
Okay, so we're even sooner thanthat.
I think yesterday you werescanning bulls?
Yeah.

brian_1_01-23-2025 (01:08):
ultrasounded all the yearlings.

david_1_01-23-2025_191018 (01:10):
And so we, we've been trying to
scratch this thing together foran entire week trying to get an
episode put together.
And here we are.
We finally got it done.
And do you have a pot of coffeegoing?

brian_1_01-23-2025_171018 (01:22):
What was that?

david_1_01-23-2025_191018 (01:23):
You got a pot of coffee going?

brian_1_01-23-2025_171018 (01:25):
No,

david_1_01-23-2025_191018 (01:26):
Some Red Bull?
Monster?

brian_1_01-23-2025_17101 (01:28):
water.

david_1_01-23-2025_19101 (01:29):
Water?

brian_1_01-23-2025_171018 (01:29):
Water and beef jerky.

david_1_01-23-2025_191 (01:31):
Alright, I'll try to keep this thing
lively then.
I want to say Brian I appreciateyou making time for this.
And hopefully we can do you somejustice and get some eyes on
your sale.
What we're going to do is we'regoing to go back to 1986.
The beginning of the BearMountain Program.

brian_1_01-23-2025_171018 (01:46):
So I guess you kind of wanna know how
this all started.

david_1_01-23-2025_19101 (01:49):
That's right.

brian_1_01-23-2025_171018 (01:50):
what was that?

david_1_01-23-2025_191018 (01:51):
Yeah, that's correct.
Little Brian stole her in 1986.

brian_1_01-23-2025_171018 (01:55):
Okay.
So actually in 1985, when I wasnine.
first year I could be in 4 H.
We went to a local rancher andbought two steers, a Hereford
and a limousine.
One was short and squatty, onewas tall and long.
and.
There was a gal that was our 4 Hleader who was an Angus breeder

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and, my dad was convinced thatshe didn't want to give us
enough time because we didn'thave an Angus steer.
So that next year him and my momGary and Davey, they went to, I
guess we were in California.
It was in Angels Camp,California in the Sierra Nevada
foothills, kind of east ofStockton about an hour.

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But went to, to Thomas Angus upin Baker, Oregon and bought.
Mia Heffer and my brother, anAngus Heffer, and then three
Angus Steers too at that samesale.
so that was the beginning ofBear Mountain Angus.
And I guess the reason it'scalled Bear Mountain Angus is
the ranch we lived on was calledBear Mountain Ranch.

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So, we just switched it to BearMountain Angus.
And then we've just stuck withthat name all along.

david_1_01-23-2025_191018 (03:08):
Do you remember the cow families
that you guys bought fromThomas?

brian_1_01-23-2025_171018 (03:11):
I don't, no, I don't remember the
cow families, I do have the billof sale from buying those or
when they bought them, but I doremember one of the cows, the
one I showed was an AARnutrient,

david_1_01-23-2025_191018 (03:25):
Okay.

brian_1_01-23-2025_171018 (03:26):
I think is a bull that Thomas's
own part of, and at that timewere promoting pretty heavily,
heavily.
He was maybe one of the bullsthat I think at the time, maybe
he was starting to moderatethings because They'd gotten
them pretty big there in thelate seventies and early
eighties.
And I think he was kind of oneof the bulls that was changing

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the trend at the time.

david_1_01-23-2025_191018 (03:52):
You got started with those couple
that came from Thomas.
And then as a young man, youstarted building your herd?

brian_1_01-23-2025_171018 (03:59):
Yeah.
So, you know, we showed theircounty fair, there was a couple
jackpot shows locally, one inPlymouth that we went to that
was pretty close.
And just started meetingdifferent people.
And I guess one thing led toanother.
You got another heifer the nextyear at the California Angus
Days.
I believe it was, I believe thatsecond year it was from 5J

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Angus, which was Ron Jones.
And I can't remember his wife'sname.
But super nice people.
And you know, they kind ofhelped us.
Get going and I guess I just sayas a 4 H project gone wild I
just kind of, my dad and myselfreally fell in love with the

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people, I guess, the breed, thepeople in the breed and just
everything about it.
Got more involved in theCalifornia Junior Angus.
Association, which led togetting involved there, you
know, going to the NationalJunior Angus show and getting to
meet a lot of people throughoutthe country that way.
And I think I can't rememberexactly, maybe somewhere in my

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teen years my parents went andbought oh, maybe 20 cows or so
from Jim O'Neill in Iowa,

david_1_01-23-2025_191018 (05:15):
Oh, okay.

brian_1_01-23-2025_171018 (05:16):
I think we bought another 10 or 15
from Krebs in one of their kindof mature cow herd dispersals
that they have every now andthen.
So, those would be a lot of thecows we started with, which we
still have some cows that goback to those two herds.

david_1_01-23-2025_191018 (05:32):
So you guys jumped in.
And so that was in California.
how big did you guys build outthat California herd?

brian_1_01-23-2025_171018 (05:38):
We got to about 100 head in a
pretty rapid fashion, I guesswhich, you know, we learned a
lot of things.
I guess, there's some, somethings, you know, that worked
out great, but Oh, we just gottoo big for what we had room
for.
And it was costing more than itwas making.

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So when I was in college, theyactually, my parents dispersed
that herd.
And I guess we had dispersalthere.
I was thinking, maybe there's acatalog here, I can't remember
what year, but, but so most ofthose cows got sold when I was
in college.
I think that was in like 90,been in 90, 95 actually, because

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I graduated high school in 94.
And I think that was in 95,because yeah but for one reason
or another, they're three orfour of the better cows we got
back from that dispersal lateron.

david_1_01-23-2025_191018 (06:36):
Oh, okay.

brian_1_01-23-2025_171018 (06:37):
And then like the Jamie cow family
she would have came back to usbecause her mother was a cow we
bought and her tattoo didn'tmatch the registration paper.
And the people that we boughther from, well, people that
raised her used a rotary tattoo,and they said it slipped, which
I use a rotary tattoo.
And I know it does slip fromtime to time.

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And I guess they didn'tnecessarily believe us.
So we said, Hey, we'll just takeher back.
And that calf on the side ofthat cow was that Bear Mountain
Jamie 512, who later went on towin Denver for me in the junior
show.

david_1_01-23-2025_191018 (07:13):
Into that thing, huh?

brian_1_01-23-2025_171018 (07:14):
yeah, that worked out good.
There is a lady airline cow.
We got back from Jim O'Neill,who was our high selling one in
that dispersal.
There's still cows that go backto her.
There was a Blackbird cow thatoriginated from Sunny Valley
that I think we still have a fewthat go back to her.
But yep.

david_1_01-23-2025_191018 (07:33):
And then the family moved off to
Idaho.

brian_1_01-23-2025_171018 (07:36):
Yeah.
So when I got done with collegeso I guess to back up, my
parents had a horseback ridingand stagecoach ride in a state
park, Columbia State Park therein California.
And that's what they did for aliving as I was growing up or my
brother and I grew up.
And they had lost a contract todo that in that state park.

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So and my mom, she swore she'dnever leave California.
She loved it, was born andraised there.
And my dad kind of always wantedto move somewhere else where it
was a little easier to ranchcause he really loved that.
But so in 2001, when we were inDenver showing.

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And we knew the foot E.
G.
and Patsy foot.
my parents were ready to findsomething somewhere and they
talked to them and then they hadfive boys, but none of them
wanted to take over their ranch.
So they said, Hey, why don't youcome by and look at our place?
We're ready to sell.
And they had been in thebusiness for 50 plus years, I

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think at that time.
So it was a pretty establishedplace.
So we ended up buying Foot AcresAngus in 2001 and moved up
there, I think in May orsomething.
But yeah, so we moved up thereand, and went from having, at
that time I had about 10 or 12cows and they were all better
cows, ones we were fleshing.

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And kind of selling some embryosand doing some flush work with
some different people on those.
But about that place had 400mother cows.
And nice thing about that placeis it came with a staff.
There was like eight people thatworked for them that knew how
that place ran.
So we kind of did.
What they were doing for aboutthe first year and kind of saw

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what we thought would work andmaybe Few things changed and
made a few changes and we endedup running that place with us
And I think three guys, but hadit up to about 500 mother cows
selling about 200 bulls a yearThey're still doing some showing
and whatnot.
But the main goal Was to raisebulls to sell a commercial guy.

david_1_01-23-2025_191018 (09:43):
Did you purchase the herd from
Foote?

brian_1_01-23-2025_171018 (09:45):
Yeah, we bought their entire place,
their cows, equipment,everything.

david_1_01-23-2025_1910 (09:50):
Turnkey Operation.

brian_1_01-23-2025_171018 (09:52):
Yep.

david_1_01-23-2025_191018 (09:53):
Then a few years later you guys then
went to Nebraska,

brian_1_01-23-2025_171018 (09:57):
Yep.
So,

david_1_01-23-2025_191018 (09:59):
you are currently.

brian_1_01-23-2025_171018 (10:00):
yep.
So I guess the reason for thatmove was and when we moved to
Idaho it was not very far fromBoise, about 45 minutes
southwest of there just south ofNampa, Idaho, about 15 minutes.
And we could tell that, youknow, at some point That place

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would might could be somedevelopment ground.
And maybe 20 years down theroad, but about 5 years after we
moved there, there was 3different developers wanting to
buy that place.
And they just wanted to land noequipment, no cattle.
So, and for what they'reoffering us, it would have been
stupid not to sell.
So we sold it to the guy thattold us that.

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We have about 10 years beforethey do anything with it and we
could stay there.
Well, then the market crashed inabout a year and a half after we
sold it.
They said, you need to be out ofhere in six months.
So we had to find

david_1_01-23-2025_191018 (10:55):
Yeah.
Yeah.

brian_1_01-23-2025_171018 (10:57):
we had to find something in a
hurry.
So we were in Denver again andRandy Lathrop introduced my dad
to a realtor.
And from, Not very far from herewhere we're at.
And after we got done showing inDenver, I sent the cattle home
and I stayed with tack trailerand went and looked at two
different ranches with that guyand ended up here in Palisade.

david_1_01-23-2025_191018 (11:21):
give us an idea of what it's like to
ranch in California versus Idahoversus Nebraska, I mean in
completely different regions,climates, even political it's
different.
give us an idea of what it'slike to ranch in those three
different places.

brian_1_01-23-2025_171018 (11:36):
So I guess.
When we were in California, I'dcall it more of a hobby ranch
that, you know, it wasn't ourmain source of income.
So, and where we were, thereason I guess it didn't work
is, well, I don't think itworked for us.
The way we did it is we had tobuy a lot of feed, I think

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mainly because we had too manycows for, What land we had and
you know, it just was, wasn'tcost effective there.

david_1_01-23-2025_191018 (12:06):
And I'm assuming in California you
run on dry land, not irrigated.

brian_1_01-23-2025_171018 (12:10):
yeah, most of it was either, it was,
yeah, it was all dry land, butyou'd get where we're at if I
remember right, we'd get 30 to40 inches of rain a year,

david_1_01-23-2025_191018 (12:20):
Oh,

brian_1_01-23-2025_171018 (12:21):
but it, you know, it was, and I
guess, so as in we're in thesame county I think you've had
Joe Fisher on here quite a bit.

david_1_01-23-2025_191018 (12:29):
Yeah, a couple times, yeah.

brian_1_01-23-2025_171018 (12:31):
Him and I were from the same county
there, and he's a little youngerthan me, but.
So you know, Joe knows moreabout that area than I do.
Cause I left when I was, youknow, my early twenties and he's
lived there his whole life.
But you know, as far as runningregistered cows where we were at
I think it's better to runcommercial cows there just cause

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it's, you know, bigger country,you don't see the cattle as
often and whatnot.

david_1_01-23-2025_191018 (12:57):
And then in Idaho, you go there, and
you just turn on your rain,right?
You just go out there, put theswitch on, turn on the rain?

brian_1_01-23-2025_171018 (13:04):
yeah, yeah, you do.
You have to turn the rain on,because it's high desert.
So that place was all irrigated.
We had I don't know, it wasabout 1, 100 acres.
We could run about, we had about500 cows.
When we sold stuff there butyeah, you'd irrigate and you'd,
you know, could run a couplecows to an acre and rotate stuff

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around and we had a fair amountof farming on that place and it
was fairly labor intensive or,you know, the other way to run
cows in that area in Idaho,where is on, you know, the high
desert out in big country, youknow, you'd have to run a couple
50 acres.
And you know, there again for aregistered outfit for me, the

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way I like to do it.
You know, it's kind of hard tosee everything very often and
kind of get, get what you wantout of them.
But anyways, when we moved hereto Nebraska I guess To me, this
is the favorite, my favoriteplace I've lived.
I didn't necessarily realizeexactly what I was moving into
when I moved here.

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We just kind of did it in ahurry because we needed to go
somewhere and it looked like agood place.
But, you know, it's about 10acres to a cow.
We get more rain here than wegot in Idaho.
And you know, we run a lot ofcows in corn stalks and, you
know, feed residue and whateverin the winter.
Grass, you know, through thesummer.

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We feed them a little bit afterthey calve.
know, just so we can get thembred back.
But as soon as we can get themback out on grass, we do.
So, it's a lot nicer.
You can let cows be cows.
But you can still get around andsee everything all the time.
Make sure everything's healthyand whatnot.

david_1_01-23-2025_191018 (14:43):
Now on the herd currently, you're
not running as many cattle asyou did in Idaho,

brian_1_01-23-2025_171018 (14:47):
no, not right now.
We we were up to about 400mother cows two years ago And
Due to lack of help and time Ijust decided that we should cut
back a little bit so we had amajor herd reduction two falls
ago in 23 and Oh, witheverything we sold about 400

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head.
But so last year we caved about200 cows out, and this year I
think we're gonna have about250.
We'll calve out.

david_1_01-23-2025_191018 (15:18):
So as you've jumped from three
different locations, how hasyour breeding philosophy
changed?
Or has it?

brian_1_01-23-2025_171018 (15:25):
I guess, you know, originally this
started as a, you know, I don'twant, well, a four H project
with, you know, more showoriented, but back in those
days, I believe, you know, therewas good functional cattle that
you could show in the show ringand get along good.
My.
I guess my philosophy was alwaysto have good looking cattle that

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still go out and make good mamacows and raise calves and, you
know, kind of do everything acow should do.
I fine tuned that as, you know,I've learned the cow herd and
the cows and learned more.
But yeah, I've always I guessappreciated a good cow with a
good udder, you know, good feetdisposition.

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I like good disposition, but Idon't want them.
dumb.
Sometimes people take docility alittle bit too extreme and you
lose some of the cow's motheringability.
But you know, there's a happymedium with everything.
So,

david_1_01-23-2025_191018 (16:25):
I like it a little high minded.
I got a couple cows that are alittle high minded, especially
when there's a brand new calf onthe ground.
I actually have a littleappreciation for that.
And like I said, I don't wantthem dog gentle to where they're
dumb.
I grew up in the dairy industrywhere that's more common than
not.
define a bare mountain cow.
What, is she a frame six?
Six and a half?
Five?

brian_1_01-23-2025_171018 (16:45):
I don't, I, I guess probably a
five to five and a half,ideally.
There's probably a few that area little smaller and a few that
are a little bigger.
I guess the, the main thing is,is that.
They can calve every year, breedback you know, have good udders,
good feet.
If they don't have good feet andudders, they usually become a re

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sip.
we have lots of embryos I putin.
And you know, they might befunctional, but I don't know
that I need to send that intothe commercial guy's herd.
So I can deal with it, but Idon't know that they need to.
You know, the biggest thing isthat they can raise a good calf.
Do a good job, mother them good.
You know, do what a cow issupposed to do.

david_1_01-23-2025_191018 (17:29):
Yeah, and if anybody wants to see
what, what a Bear Mountain cowlooks like, you have a great
website where people go onthere.
they can see your donors fromthe past and the present.
and actually there's even one inthere for the future.
So I'm gonna actually let youhave a moment with this.
I normally haven't had done thiswith somebody else but you have
a pretty big battery for donors.
Talk about Bear Mountain genie.

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She comes out of the 7860 cow.

brian_1_01-23-2025_171018 (17:53):
7860, so she would be the mother of
justice.

david_1_01-23-2025_191018 (17:57):
yep.

brian_1_01-23-2025_171018 (17:58):
And she would go back to a special
design daughter.
Who is a pathfinder who I soldhalf of to a guy named Bill
Bain.
and that was one we sold as ashow heifer.
I showed her, she had asuccessful show career.
won her division quite a bit Ithink in Denver as a senior

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yearling.
But you know.
She raised a bull that Alta hadbought an Owyhee Sun, and she
was a cow that 42 38, thatspecial design that she goes
back to, was oh, I think she wasaround here until she was 12 or
13, maybe 14, so, there's a lotof cows that, if I don't sell

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them, when they're 6 or 7, forone reason or another, they just
kind of never, Never find theirway out of here.
Keep calving a calf every year.
And you know, when they get over10 or 12, I'll, you know, keep
them in in the winter and maybefeed them a little extra just
because it's not as easy forthem out on corn stalks.

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But you know, they've done theirjob to get to that point.

david_1_01-23-2025_191018 (19:09):
We like old cows.
They've done their job.

brian_1_01-23-2025_171018 (19:11):
yeah, we just calved one out.
Was born in 09.
So what's that?
She's 16.
Just had her 15th calf.

david_1_01-23-2025_191018 (19:17):
Oh,

brian_1_01-23-2025_171018 (19:18):
So,

david_1_01-23-2025_191018 (19:19):
she's a good one.
another one.
Fairmountain Judy, 6535.
The damned pilot.

brian_1_01-23-2025_171018 (19:26):
So, yeah, so that's, yeah, the
mother of Pilot, who sold theSids and Ellingsons a couple
years ago.
But she'd also be the fullsister to Justify, who's a
justified son out of a Pioneercow.
And I don't know, she's just areally good udder, moderate,
easy fleshing cow that we soldher kind of as a feature in our

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sale a few years ago and ZWTbought her and her daughter for
49, 000.

david_1_01-23-2025_191018 (19:56):
Woo!

brian_1_01-23-2025_171018 (19:57):
We've got quite a few daughters out of
her back in the herd and they'redoing a good job.
So that's, I guess when I getenough.
in the herd, I can go ahead andsell those, you know, good cows
like that.
I used to, I used to hang on tothose and then seemed like

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nobody'd ever know about them.
So it seems like if I sell themlike that, then people get to
know about them and it helpspromote the program.

david_1_01-23-2025_191018 (20:27):
Makes sense.
next one is Bear MountainForever Lady 0579,

brian_1_01-23-2025_171018 (20:32):
So that'd be,

david_1_01-23-2025_191018 (20:33):
North Stars Dam.

brian_1_01-23-2025_171018 (20:35):
yeah, that'd be North Stars Dam.
She's, I guess a five year oldnow.
And.
You know, she bred up as a twoyear old and bred in North Star
as her first calf.
Bred back, had another one, didthat three years in a row.
Actually, I flushed her after wesold North Star a couple times

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and then threw her out with thebull.
That I'd bought a really goodbull from Keneally's.
bred right up after we flushedher there.
And then been flushing her allthis year.
I guess our lead off bull in ourbull sale this year is out of
her by stealth which is astellar son we have, but just a
really long bodied nice fronted,level made, really sound cow

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that's good uttered.
And I guess her mother.
is really, really good.
Love her.
We sold her.
She was our high selling cow inthat major herd reduction to
stealth flu.
The her grandmother was probablythe best cash daughter that I've
ever been around.

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some guys Steven Lostavica andhis family bought her down in
Texas and, and she's a donor cowdown there.
And the fourth cow back in thatpedigree is triple O1 and she,
we bought as a heifer calfpregnancy from 4M over in Blue
Hill, the Meyers.

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And she was probably, I don'tknow, the best Bismarck that I'd
been around.
Good footed one that just alwayshad really good calves.
And that's kind of how she endedup in the donor pin, that 0001.
She ended up selling to MarshallFenner in Missouri.
And they used her and had calvesout of her.

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I think she lived past 12 or 13,he said.
But but just a lot of really,really good cows in that cow
family.
And I, I really liked theforever ladies.
I've always had good luck withthose cows.

david_1_01-23-2025_191018 (22:34):
That 0579 cow, gorgeous front end,
just super, super clean,beautiful head on her, she's a
gorgeous cow.
How does one make it into thedonor pen?

brian_1_01-23-2025_171018 (22:45):
You got to raise a good calf.
You gotta do, I guess, I need tolike your mom.
That helps.

david_1_01-23-2025_19101 (22:52):
sounds like you're dating her.

brian_1_01-23-2025_171018 (22:58):
That never get flushed.
But.
Yeah, I mean basically you gottado your job, you know, raise a
few good calves not mess up.
And usually, I'm not sayingalways, but usually I wait until
they're a little older or Iknow, you know, that they're
gonna do what I want them to do.

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Yeah.

david_1_01-23-2025_191018 (23:20):
this last one, the very last one,
she's brand new to, I don'tknow, brand new to the program,
but you just bought her back in,I believe, November, you offered
up some embryos for her, fromher, in the Denver sale the,
this is BC, c, Varda intense 58J.
She is the dam to b, c, crapport who is in the St.

(23:41):
Genetics lineup.
A lot of people are prettyexcited about this rapport bowl.
I got a good friend.
I can't really disclose too muchabout him because, but he's been
on that podcast a couple times.
he was one of the first users ofrapport and all reports are
really, really good on thatbull.
But tell us about this cow youbought.

brian_1_01-23-2025_171018 (23:59):
Well, first of all, I've never seen
her in person,

david_1_01-23-2025_191018 (24:02):
No?

brian_1_01-23-2025_171018 (24:03):
But I, I do know Brian Bergery well,
and he's a guy kind of likemyself, you know, if he says
something, it's going to be thetruth.
And I guess in that picture ofher, you see her udder and just
absolutely love her udder.
the stellar cattle have beenreally, really good here for me

(24:24):
and they've crossed well on myjustifies.
So I guess I saw him offeringher there at the Niles sale and,
and thought she'd be a goodaddition to our donor battery.
You know, there again, she's acow that obviously raised a good
bull.
And I really liked that EverElder Intense Cow family.
She goes back to 1905.

(24:46):
And, you know, just a lot ofgood stuff there that I think,
you know, do the industry good.

david_1_01-23-2025_191018 (24:52):
Does she go back to the Three Trees
cow?
you put out a number out there

brian_1_01-23-2025_171018 (24:58):
So, 1905 is BTRL the intense 19.

david_1_01-23-2025_191018 (25:02):
okay.

brian_1_01-23-2025_171018 (25:03):
I think would be what she'd go
back to.

david_1_01-23-2025_191018 (25:06):
got it.
well we're going to take a breakright there and we're going to
come back and talk about thesale coming up on February 6th.
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david_2_01-23-2025_194 (25:40):
Alright, we're back with Brian Stuller
from Bear Mountain Angus.
We're going to cover a littlebit of his bull offerings for
the sale for February 6th.
Alright Brian, what you got?

brian_2_01-23-2025_174627 (25:51):
All right, we'll start at the front
of the catalog.
The lot one bull I guess lot oneand two have kind of been, well,
one, two and three really havebeen three of our favorite bulls
all summer and all long.
One's kind of surfaced to thetop after genomics came back and
you know, as EPDs.
Kind of got the way they are.

(26:12):
He's calving these with a littlemore growth than a sire.
You know, with good feet goodcarcass, kind of a very well
rounded bull.
Super long bodied, a littlesmoother fronted than a sire,
longer fronted than a stealth.
Which is coming from that goodjustify cow which he's out of

(26:32):
0579, who's Northstar's mother.
And you know, she gave him alittle added frame and length,
but still has the muscle massbone that his sire stealth has
and that justify or stellar onjustify cross works really,
really good here.
Which that's what all three ofthose bulls are.

david_2_01-23-2025_194627 (26:54):
Now 1 and 2, they're flesh brothers,
but it looks like number 3 isout of a different cow.

brian_2_01-23-2025_174627 (27:00):
Yep, yep.
Yep, three is out of

david_2_01-23-2025_194 (27:03):
Barbara.

brian_2_01-23-2025_1746 (27:04):
heifer.
Who goes back to another one ofthem old cows who's 14.
Pathfinder still in production.
I guess Genomics didn't like himas well, but he's huge meddled,
huge top, nice fronted supercomplete, just a tank of a bull,

(27:24):
that lot three.

david_2_01-23-2025_194627 (27:26):
Does that Barbara cow, does that go
back to Thomas?

brian_2_01-23-2025_174627 (27:28):
now, it actually goes back to, we had
a bull we called a Wahee, thatwas our first bull we sold for,
well, I guess our second bull wesold for a lot of money back in

david_2_01-23-2025_194627 (27:40):
Yeah, we're going to talk about him.

brian_2_01-23-2025_174627 (27:42):
Okay.

david_2_01-23-2025_194627 (27:43):
but it's okay.
Keep

brian_2_01-23-2025_174627 (27:45):
8106 cow who's This bull's third dam
would be a full sister to a whyhe

david_2_01-23-2025_194627 (27:51):
Oh, okay.

brian_2_01-23-2025_174627 (27:52):
so so he'd go back to a why he's
mother Yeah, which you know isalways a really that was a cow
family that came from that footacres with that place there so
Always done a good job thosecows And I guess getting into
the North Stars.
They're like lot 11 through 30And this is his first calf crop

(28:18):
and they're all really good.
That bull, he stamps them, putsa really nice look in them.
Big top square hip pretty nicehind leg lots of rib shape.
And I don't know if I have onefavorite bull, but there's a lot
of really good North stars inthere.
Like

david_2_01-23-2025_194627 (28:35):
Now he's a, he's a true north son
out of the, out of that donor,that 0 5 7 9 forever lady.
True North son.
he's one of the few bulls I didnot put on my list.
Oh, actually I did put him on mylist.
He's owned with, he's at Jan X

brian_2_01-23-2025_174627 (28:50):
Yep.
Gen X and Lance bought him acouple of years ago.
So this would be his first calfcrop.
And like I said, there's just, Idon't know, there's 23 of them
in the sale and there's probably10 or 12 of them that, you know,
you just walk in that pen andthey just stick out like a sore
thumb.

david_2_01-23-2025_194627 (29:09):
that picture of hi of him in your
catalog.
North Star.
That's a good lookin bull.

brian_2_01-23-2025_1746 (29:14):
Thanks.

david_2_01-23-2025_194627 (29:15):
do you think True North stamps him
a little bit?
With a little base width?

brian_2_01-23-2025_174627 (29:19):
Yeah.
I think North star is a littledifferent than most of the true
Norse, which I think is comingfrom that cow.
You know, he's probably a littlebigger framed than, you know, a
lot of people might think theway he's bred, but that cow's a
bigger, longer bodied cow andNorth stars the same way and

(29:41):
probably a little nicer up totheir front end than a typical
true North, but maybe not assoggy and soft middle as a, a
true North.
So I think North star probablymakes them a little different
than Most of the true north's, Iguess going back, you know, I

(30:01):
guess like a lot of 11, 13, 14,15, 17 19, 21 26,

david_2_01-23-2025_194627 (30:10):
got, you got a slug of

brian_2_01-23-2025_174627 (30:11):
yeah, 31.
Those are kind of some of my Ilike.
But and then we get into thejustices, which justice is
justify son that that Altabought.
And there's a flush of those outof stealth's mother like lot 34.
is another one of my favorites.

(30:33):
He's a, you know, like I said, ajustice out of north, out of
stealth's mother, that Rugerdaughter.

david_2_01-23-2025_194627 (30:41):
He's deep.

brian_2_01-23-2025_174627 (30:42):
yeah, he's deep, Long pretty good gut,
quite a bit of bone for a trueCalvinese bull.
And then there's a full sisterto him who was part of the Penn
Heifers we took to Oklahomacity.
And actually sold choice her andher sister down there.
And she sold half interest for10, 000.

(31:05):
So, not only the bulls are good,the heifers are good on that
flush too.
There's several of these Justicefall bulls that are pretty good.
Big stout, rugged bulls.

david_2_01-23-2025_194627 (31:16):
Hey, what, what, what are these ones
that say Bear Mountain and thenK.
A.
Justice.

brian_2_01-23-2025_174627 (31:21):
K.
A.
is a cooperator.
It's Keyswater, Angus.
He, he's in it's Dan and SteveKeeswater there in Illinois
there and kind of startedselling bulls with us probably
eight, 10 years ago.
And you know, a lot of these goback to our cows that they've
been buying.

(31:41):
And then,

david_2_01-23-2025_194627 (31:41):
You actually give them some
recognition in there.

brian_2_01-23-2025_174627 (31:44):
yeah,

david_2_01-23-2025_19462 (31:45):
That's nice.
I like that.
There's a lot of outfits thatdon't do that.

brian_2_01-23-2025_174627 (31:49):
yeah, no, I tell them if they want to
put their name on there whenthey register them, they're more
than welcome to.
There's another cooperator.
Here we've got Which is DerekVap, Vap Angus.
And he doesn't put his name onthere, but it'd be some of the
lower tattoo numbers, like mine.
I'll start with either 3, 500 onup for the fall bull.

(32:10):
Well, there's 3, 800 on up or 4,500 on up for the springs.
But anything like a fourthousand eleven, forty eleven,
would be one of VAPs.

david_2_01-23-2025_194627 (32:23):
Okay.
Like this Magnify 301, that'sLop 56.

brian_2_01-23-2025_17 (32:27):
Actually, that one belongs to a neighbor.
There's a family down the roadhere that helps us quite a bit.
The Weeses.
And we actually have given allthree of their kids a heifer for
helping us.

david_2_01-23-2025_194627 (32:40):
Okay.

brian_2_01-23-2025_174627 (32:41):
now they've got a little herd.
So this is a bull that's out ofone of those cows.

david_2_01-23-2025_194627 (32:45):
Lop 56, I like the dam's name, Spicy
Lady.

brian_2_01-23-2025_174627 (32:49):
Yeah, but that was one of Reagan's
cows.
And

david_2_01-23-2025_194627 (32:53):
And it goes, goes back to Sassy
Lady.

brian_2_01-23-2025_174627 (32:55):
yeah, so which Reagan is are my
stepdaughter.

david_2_01-23-2025_194627 (33:00):
I like those names.
That's, that's a different cowfamily name.

brian_2_01-23-2025_174627 (33:03):
yeah.
Well, it was just started out aslady, which that goes back to
one of them foot acres cows.
that came with that herd.
So and I guess the story onthat, a guy had bought a heifer
from us, bred her, she calved ittoo.
And then he was complainingcause she didn't breed back.

(33:27):
So I told him, well, I'll justbuy her back from you.
Cause she was pretty good andshe was pretty malnourished.
Well, that was when Tiff and Ifirst were dating, my wife, and
Tiff said, Well, I'll just buyher because she's pretty good
and I'll give her, we'll giveher to Reagan.
So, that's how that started andcame about.

david_2_01-23-2025_194627 (33:47):
Now I kind of jumped, jumped the gun
on you.
I moved clear down to the 69,70s.
These prolifics.
Prolifics, kind of ga gainingsome ground across the country.
A lot of people starting tonotice them, and maybe some are
using them.
What do you think of theprolifics?

brian_2_01-23-2025_174627 (34:02):
I really, really like them.
We just had the first one calvedthe other day, which was the lot
one we sold in our female sale.
Real nice udder, real good cowbut yeah, there's a lot of these
prolifics that I like.
Quite a

david_2_01-23-2025_194627 (34:16):
These bull, they're kind of soggy,
deep, deep and soggy.

brian_2_01-23-2025_17462 (34:19):
soggy, good looking.
And he works good on our cowherd.
Cause our cows are like, you'retalking about 0579, you know,
how angular and extended andfeminine she is up through her
front end.
That's kind of how most of ourcows are.
So.
A bull like prolific, you know,he's maybe not the nicest

(34:40):
fronted.
But it's a good cross.
So it actually works out prettygood.
And there's one bull I want topoint out lot 58, who's in the
pilot section.
I thought he was a pilot.
But genomics came back kind oflate and he's actually a
prolific out of 6535, who'spilot's mother.
So he's pretty good too.

(35:02):
A few of the other prolificsthat I really like are lot 66.
I have a really good mark twodaughter.
Which goes actually back to thesame cow family as Northstar.
67 is really good.
Another really long bodied,smooth made.
Got a really nice EPD profile togo with all that.

(35:25):
71 is another one that I reallylike.

david_2_01-23-2025_194627 (35:29):
I'm gonna jump you down to, to the
eighties, 83 through 86.
We're gonna talk about a sirenuse here.
That's kind of popular, but Idon't know, people got a little
different feeling about this onecraftsmen.
Tell us about how craftsmenworked for ya.

brian_2_01-23-2025_174627 (35:45):
so I just flushed him to that one
cow.
I have a partner on that cow andhe wanted to try and sell some
embryos.
So I was trying to findsomething that was kind of
popular, but still might make,you know, cattle that could work
for the commercial guy.
And so that's how we ended upwith those bulls.

david_2_01-23-2025_194627 (36:05):
Did they perform pretty good?
laughing

brian_2_01-23-2025_17462 (36:09):
couple of them are pretty nice.
They're all right.
The 80s, 80, 83, 83 is probablythe best one.
The one I got pictured there,but yeah.
But the 87 and 88 who are out ofthe same cow by dynamic, they're
both really good bulls.

david_2_01-23-2025_194627 (36:27):
you got some dynamic in there as
well

brian_2_01-23-2025_174627 (36:29):
Yeah,

david_2_01-23-2025_194627 (36:30):
and then, They got a couple of Man
in Blacks coming.

brian_2_01-23-2025_174627 (36:33):
yeah,

david_2_01-23-2025_194627 (36:34):
It looks like some of these later
ones, they're samples.
You're kind of like samplingsome stuff.
It doesn't look like you wentall in on a bunch of stuff.
A little bit of this here andthere for some people.
Your buyers, are they primarilylocal commercial guys?

brian_2_01-23-2025_1746 (36:50):
Mostly, yeah.
I've got a few guys from a waysaway.
There's a guy from Utah that'sbeen buying bulls from us for 20
years.
And only our bulls and, youknow, he'll buy seems like eight
or 10 a year.
And he's actually got 30 opencommercial heifers.

(37:10):
In the sale this year and theyjust got here yesterday and
they're tremendous.
They're really, really good setof heifers.
But yeah, the majority of thebulls probably go within 150
miles of us.

david_2_01-23-2025_194627 (37:24):
In that area, are they more focused
on low birth weight type bulls?

brian_2_01-23-2025_174627 (37:29):
They like them.
Moderate birth and big weaning.
I guess those are the two thingsthey kind

david_2_01-23-2025_194627 (37:35):
Well, don't we all?
Don't we all?

brian_2_01-23-2025_174627 (37:38):
Yep.
Yep But if there's a good bigstout bull some of them some of
them are All right with a littlebirth weight

david_2_01-23-2025_1 (37:46):
Especially this time of year.
They're calving this time ofyear eighty five pounders is
just fine.
Especially in that nine degreeweather out there, yeah.
That eighty six pound bull calfis just

brian_2_01-23-2025_174 (38:00):
pounders not too bad either

david_2_01-23-2025_19462 (38:02):
That's true.
Very true.
Before we move on, is there anyother side I didn't mind to push
you too far.

brian_2_01-23-2025_174627 (38:06):
any other sires

david_2_01-23-2025_194627 (38:08):
Yeah.
Any other bulls you wanted to tonote in

brian_2_01-23-2025_174627 (38:10):
oh, I mean, there's some like flushes
like these three renovations outof that really good resource
cow.
They're all pretty nice

david_2_01-23-2025_194627 (38:19):
Shaw renovation.

brian_2_01-23-2025_174627 (38:20):
Yep.

david_2_01-23-2025_194627 (38:21):
Okay,

brian_2_01-23-2025_174627 (38:22):
Yep.
That's a cow we bought with apartner from from ZWT.
Those, they're a little younger,so they're maybe not as big as
some of the older bulls, butthey're still made really good.
There's a one reality bull,what, 109, who's really good.
And I'd have more of these, butI had like eight heifers in this

(38:44):
one bull and the heifers arereally, really good.
and this bull is good too, butin that major herd reduction, it
seemed like all the cows thatwere carrying bull calves got
sold in that, so that's why weonly have one of them.
And then there's, you know, twobulls at the very back, lot 110

(39:04):
and 111, who are both reallygood.
Out of bulls I had bought iscleanup bulls the 110s out of.
A 14 year old cow who justcalved two nights ago, who is
the mother of Stronghold.
And the 111 calf bulls, justreally good meat and potatoes
kind of bull, out of a resilientson I bought from Huykens.

(39:26):
And then this is that cow'ssecond calf, her first calf sold
last year for 10, 000 toKeyswaters as a herdsire for
them.
14,

david_2_01-23-2025_194627 (39:36):
so to go back to the lot, one 10, you
said that that cow's four, didyou say 14, 15 years old?

brian_2_01-23-2025_174627 (39:43):
she was born in 11,

david_2_01-23-2025_194627 (39:44):
14.
Her, her sire is Hawaii.

brian_2_01-23-2025_174627 (39:49):
yep,

david_2_01-23-2025_194627 (39:49):
I mean that that is that, that's
pretty vintage.

brian_2_01-23-2025_174627 (39:52):
yep.

david_2_01-23-2025_194627 (39:53):
darn vintage.
her grand si is bla on.
That is that's an old pedigree.
And the fact that she's stilltrucking along is, that's a good
one.

brian_2_01-23-2025_174627 (40:01):
And that 811 Cal, the third dam,
she's by Traveler 71.
And then goes back to that BoydForever Lady 57D who made so
many good herd sires for,

david_2_01-23-2025_194627 (40:13):
Yeah.

brian_2_01-23-2025_174627 (40:14):
for Boyds.

david_2_01-23-2025_194627 (40:14):
let's take a break right there.
We're gonna come back and we'regonna talk about bulls.
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david_3_01-23-2025_200609 (40:49):
We're back with Brian Stoller from
Bear Mountain Angus.
Alright, Brian, this is myfavorite part of the show.
We're going to talk about somebulls.
Normally I'll talk to somebodyabout bulls that they're using
in their program.
A lot of times a lot of thepopular AI bulls.
In your case with this deephistory of having these bulls
that go clear back to BearMountain freight train, I'm

(41:10):
worse going to talk about yourstuff.
So, let's start right there.
Bear Mountain Freight Train, whowas a Freightliner's son.

brian_3_01-23-2025_180610 (41:17):
Okay, so freight train was a bull that
I think he was born that firstyear we bought foot acres.
They had bred him.
We calved him out.
He was really impressive.
Freightliner was a 598 and hisDM was also a 598 by a lion eye.
So he's double bred.

david_3_01-23-2025_200609 (41:38):
I'm just putting it out there that
it's Bando 598.

brian_3_01-23-2025_180610 (41:42):
Yep.
Sorry.
Bando 598.
Really good maternal bull fromback in the day, But but he was
I guess a little bigger stouterlonger than most of your freight
liners.
We showed him he did quite welland promoted him and ended up
selling him half interest for51, 500.

(42:05):
That was the first bull we soldfor quite a bit of money.
And actually a guy kind of likeyourself bought him.
He was owned a dairy.
Him and his parents owned adairy in Malala, Oregon is Todd
Brinkman his parents kind ofwanted to get started in the
Angus business.
And so they bought him andbought a few bred heifers from

(42:27):
us that day.
And then.
We ended up buying some donorcows together and, and doing
some partnership stuff withthem.
But but Freight Train, you know,he made some really, really good
daughters, good bulls.
You know, at first when theycalved, I was a little afraid
that.
They weren't going to haveenough milk, but they had some

(42:49):
smaller udders, but milkedheavy.
So which I don't even know whathis EPDs are today, but I would
imagine he's got a pretty highmilk EPD cause they ratioed out
of this world, those

david_3_01-23-2025_200609 (43:03):
did you use Freightliner quite a
bit?

brian_3_01-23-2025_180610 (43:05):
Yeah.
Well, EG Airfoot had usedFreightliner that was kind of a
bull that they were using tomaybe correct some things cause
they had got some of their cowsa little on the big side.
And they were using him, him,and some other bulls to kind of
moderate things.
And that bull worked really,really good on that herd.

(43:27):
Cause, you know, they were alittle bigger, like I said.
So it kind of you know, got themto about the right size.

david_3_01-23-2025 (43:33):
Freightliner was the very first bull I ever
used, AI wise.
I got some really, really goodcows out of that.
I also got some cows with somereally bad udders out of that
deal, too.
He could wreck her udder in ahurry.
But at the same time, I had somereally, really good productive
daughters out of him.

brian_3_01-23-2025_180610 (43:49):
yeah.
The daughters were really good.
Some of them, I didn't ever havethem get big titted.
But they'd get a little longertitted, some of them.

david_3_01-23-2025_200609 (43:57):
hmm.
Yeah.

brian_3_01-23-2025_180610 (43:58):
Yeah, they were good calf raisers,

david_3_01-23-2025_200609 (44:01):
they were good cows.
his milk's at 31.
Now, my favorite name of a bullever is this one, Bear Mountain
Owyhee.
How did he get that name?

brian_3_01-23-2025_180610 (44:12):
You even said it right.
Most people can't pronounce it.
The county we lived in in Idahowas a Waihee County.

david_3_01-23-2025_200609 (44:19):
Oh, okay.

brian_3_01-23-2025_180610 (44:20):
So, we went with that.

david_3_01-23-2025_200609 (44:23):
And he was a one, he was a one eyed
two sun.

brian_3_01-23-2025_180610 (44:25):
huh?

david_3_01-23-2025_200609 (44:26):
He's a one eyed two sun.
Orido, one eyed two sun.

brian_3_01-23-2025_180610 (44:30):
Which that would have been 1i2's, I
think, first calf crop.
And we didn't have very many ofthem that year, but they were
all pretty good and why he beingout of that cow.
She, that ultra box cow sheadded some muscle and some
scrotal, which one eye twolacked.
So, there again, it workedreally good.

(44:52):
That was another bull we showed.
And he won his divisioneverywhere we went, except for
one place.
Some people thought maybe heshould have been reserve in
Denver that year.
But, there was a lot of studsinterested in him and a couple
people from California ended upbuying him.

(45:12):
But but like we were talkingearlier, you know, the daughters
out of that bull have lasted.
We've got that one that's 14,that other cow that calved at
16, she's also an Owyhee.
There was another guy telling methat he bought a cow from me
when she was seven and she livedtill she was 17 and she was in

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Hawaii So good productive cowsand the commercial bull.
You know, the commercialcattlemen loved those bulls.
When we sold them, they, youknow, they were our high selling
bulls every year.

david_3_01-23-2025_200609 (45:46):
I'm really surprised by his lack of
use.
I thought he'd have more progenythan he had.

brian_3_01-23-2025_180610 (45:51):
Yeah, they're so we, we had a chance
to lease him to accelerated, butthe people that bought him
didn't think we were going toget enough out of him.
So.
He never really got promotedlike he should have.
But the cattle were really good.
So yeah, I think that's part whyhe didn't get used harder.

david_3_01-23-2025_200609 (46:14):
Now we're going to jump into
something a little more modern.
Bear Mountain Mark II, who isavailable.
Is he still at Alta?

brian_3_01-23-2025_180610 (46:21):
They are, I know they sent him away.
I don't think they maybe have,they might have some semen left
on him.

david_3_01-23-2025_200609 (46:30):
Okay.

brian_3_01-23-2025_180610 (46:30):
But I know they shipped him a couple
years ago.
But that was a.
True Cavanese bull.
Really deep, soggy it's progenythat way.
And these daughters, they've gotthe most beautiful udders in the
world.
And they're some of our bestlooking cows.
There's actually a couple ofthem on my radar to flush this

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year.
I don't know if I'm going to doit or not, but you can only
flush so many.
But there's know.
They're beautiful cows.
The bulls were easy to sell asCavanese bulls and the cow that
he's out of, she was probablythe best justified cow that we
had.
I sold her probably beforeanybody really appreciated

(47:14):
justified.
So she, you know, didn't maybeget as much exposure as maybe
she should have.
But Shane work over here inKansas bought half interest in
her and we're partners still onher.
She's, oh, I guess nine now,still going strong.
So good.
Kelsey.

david_3_01-23-2025_200609 (47:33):
take it from there.
Talk about KG Justified, becauseyou had a really good success
with that bull.

brian_3_01-23-2025_180610 (47:39):
So justified I used him early
probably had the first calvesout of that bull.
I saw him so my brother in lawlives in Montana and we were
there for Thanksgiving thatyear.
And Went to Sid's and KG's andlooked at bulls while we were up
there and just fell in love withJustified.

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And I was actually runner upbidder on him when he sold and I
talked Ron Frye into giving mesome semen for Running him so
hard.
And so he sent me 50 units ofsemen and I put it all in.
And, and that's why I gotstarted using that bull so
early.
But they're like you say, darn,darn good.

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And you know, the bulls wereeasy to sell cause there are
cavanese bulls, but they weren'tbig, tall, narrow cavanese
bulls.
They had some width, some basewidth, something to them.
They're moderate.
Good looking.
But you know, the best partabout that bull, like we all
know today is the daughters outof him just make tremendous

(48:44):
cows.

david_3_01-23-2025_200609 (48:45):
And then he produced a great son for
you in Bear Mountain Justify STGenetics currently carries him.
Talk about that bull.

brian_3_01-23-2025_180610 (48:54):
So justify, he wasn't our high
selling bull that year.
Keys, Kevin keys at keys Angusbought him cause I told him he
was going to be really good.
And he was there again, probablya little before people knew what
justified was but a bull Ireally, really liked and I liked
his mother.
And that 65 35 cow we weretalking about earlier.

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Who's his full sister wasactually born a year before him.
That was that cow's natural calfin 16.
And and I'd always liked thatheifer.
So, I just, Hey, I had a bunchof cows to him and we sold
stronghold that same year, butshe was our high selling bull
and Alta bought him, but youknow, both those bulls did good

(49:40):
for us, but the justify, youknow, I.
Kind of pushed him to a fewdifferent bull studs.
And, you know, the ones we hadwere really good that first year
and, and they continued to begood.
And that cow he's out of isreally good.
Actually, I just bought hismother back last fall.

(50:01):
Another good old cow story, butshe's 12, 12.
Yeah.
And has cab first service AIevery year for life.
But

david_3_01-23-2025_200609 (50:11):
So Brian, when you sell a cow, you
never say goodbye, you just saysee ya later.

brian_3_01-23-2025_180610 (50:16):
well, that one I did.
Yeah.
Yeah.

david_3_01-23-2025_200609 (50:20):
I think that's been podcast, is
Brian sells a cow, buys herback.

brian_3_01-23-2025_180610 (50:25):
It's possible.
There's a possibility.

david_3_01-23-2025_200609 (50:28):
Then he produced a son just by then
produced a son named BearMountain Justice, who is
available through Alta.

brian_3_01-23-2025_180610 (50:36):
Yeah.
Yeah.

david_3_01-23-2025_200609 (50:38):
him.

brian_3_01-23-2025_180610 (50:38):
So justice would be my wife's
favorite bull.
We ever produced super soggy,big top.
Almost too loose made when hewas a calf and he's kind of one
of them bulls.
He's really big numbered rightnow, but when he was, when we
sold him, his EPDs weren't thatgood.
He kinda, it's like it had tocatch up to all the stuff he

(51:03):
did.
He outproduced.
genomics and EPD said he woulddo.
Like when we sold him, I thinkhe was a 2.
90 C or something.
Well, by May that year, he waslike 3 20.
And now that we've turn, youknow, I don't know how much, how
many progenies had, but I'd callhim pretty much proven by now.

(51:25):
But, you know, he's even gottenbetter.
So still cavities.
With a ton of growth, goodcarcass

david_3_01-23-2025_200609 (51:31):
good carcass, really good

brian_3_01-23-2025_180610 (51:33):
just kind of does everything right.

david_3_01-23-2025_200609 (51:35):
seat

brian_3_01-23-2025_180610 (51:37):
the docility on the justices,
they're not mean, but you know,You might protect him on
docility a little bit.

david_3_01-23-2025_200 (51:46):
they're, they're gonna keep you awake,

brian_3_01-23-2025_180610 (51:47):
Oh, they're not, they're just you
know, they're not as, they'renot mean, but maybe a little
skittish, but the more you messwith them, the better they act,
they, they need to learn totrust you.
I guess

david_3_01-23-2025_200609 (52:01):
His carcass is really good.
And then his dollar C is 3 46 atthis point in time.
Yeah, he's not, he's definitelynot a, not a drudge in the
numbers.
He's got really good numbers.

brian_3_01-23-2025_180610 (52:11):
that he's actually, he actually died
last year.

david_3_01-23-2025_200609 (52:15):
Oh, he did, oh, sorry about

brian_3_01-23-2025_180610 (52:17):
But they still have some semen left
on him, they say.
He was a really, really goodsemen producer.

david_3_01-23-2025_200609 (52:24):
the next one is also selling to
justify bear MountainBulletproof.

brian_3_01-23-2025_ (52:28):
Bulletproof is a bull that GenX bought the
same day they bought that was,Cody just loved him which he was
extremely good looking.
Out of a really nice, it was herfirst calf.
That cow which goes back to acow I'd bought from Conley,
which originally came from theWoodhill program.
I think she's a Gammer, which iswhat 878, I believe, goes back

(52:52):
to.
But you know, another reallygood cow.
That bull there, though, he'sputting a really, really good
look in them.
There's two sons in the salethat are both really good.
We've got more coming this year.
Damrons.
Oh, they bought him with Gen X.
And a half her calf that was atthe side of their cow calf
champion was by him this year.

(53:14):
So a justify son with a really,really good look.

david_4_01-23-2025_202445- (53:19):
this next bull is Bear Mountain
Pilot.
He's owned with Ellinson andSitz, so you got some pretty big
partners there.
He's a patriarch son SuperCavanese.
I think I pulled him up off ofOrigin and Bull Barn.

brian_4_01-23-2025_182445- (53:32):
Yeah pilot was our high sound bow in
2022.
And like you said, yeah,Ellingson's and Sitt's bought
him.
He's out of that really, reallygood full sister to justify 65.
35.
He got hurt that first year atstuds.

(53:52):
So we didn't have a lot ofsemen.
We have a lot more calves thisyear by him and the bulls,
they're nice Cavanese bulls, butthe females, they look like
they're going to make really,really good cows.
Really deep sided sound looklike they're going to be easy
flesh and still feminine andattractive up to their front,

(54:13):
front end.
But really nice, nice madefemales.

david_4_01-23-2025_202445-1 (54:19):
Has Ellinson and Sitz, have they
offered any of his sons ordaughters of their souls?

brian_4_01-23-2025_182445 (54:25):
Yeah.
Ellingson's had some, well, theyboth had some sons last year in
their sales.
And I've heard a few people tellme that some of the best heifers
at And Ellingson say their bestheifer last year out of their
entire calf crop was by pilot.
I mean, we'll see when they getinto production I guess it all

(54:46):
looks promising as a femalemaker.

david_4_01-23-2025_20244 (54:49):
Here's one more for ya.
Bear Mountain Patriot.
He's a patriarch son as wellhe's at Alta.

brian_4_01-23-2025_182445- (54:56):
Yep.
That's a bull that they justbought for his extreme cavities.
We used him a little bit thatfirst year natural service.
He did a good job breeding.
We got some.
Really nice calves by him.
And that bull is just reallygood looking.
I haven't used him since, justcause I got enough Patriarch in

(55:17):
the herd with Tween Pilot andthe Patriarchs that we already
used.
But I guess everybody that seeshim up there at Hawkeye says
that bull looks really, reallygood.

david_4_01-23-2025_202445 (55:28):
deep, deep, Big ol neck crest he's got
a big ol rump on his butt.
Yeah he's looks like a reallysolid bull.
So apparently he did pretty wellwith Patriarch.

brian_4_01-23-2025_182445 (55:37):
Yeah, patriarch worked good here.
There's two might be the twobest looking patriarchs.
We've had her in the sale thisyear.
One's out of a justified and theother ones out of a justify both
two year olds, but but yeah,patriarchs done a good job here.

david_4_01-23-2025_202445 (55:53):
we've covered this one, but I want you
to get a little more in depthwith him.
This is Bear Mountain NorthStar, available at Gen X.
He's just, he's kind of more mytype of bull.
He's got more of an athletictype build to him.
Talk about this bull.

brian_4_01-23-2025_182445-1 (56:07):
So he's out of that zero five,
seven, nine.
He talked about earlier.
He was her first calf.

david_4_01-23-2025_202445 (56:12):
She's got a mess of sons in the sale.

brian_4_01-23-2025_182445 (56:16):
Yeah.
Yep.
But you know, he just, like Isaid earlier, he's kind of
different for a true north.
Got a little more frame, alittle more length.
Cool look really nice andextended up through his front
end.
Super long bodied big top squarehip had really, really good feet

(56:36):
when he was here.
I haven't seen him for a while,but he, you know, his feet have
always been good.
The sons, his feet are good.
I guess if I protect himanywhere using him, you might
want to make him a littlesofter, soggier middle, but you
know, that's not for everybody.
So but they have a tremendouslook to them.

david_4_01-23-2025_202445-1 (56:56):
And his carcass is pretty
respectable.

brian_4_01-23-2025_182445 (56:59):
Yeah.
Really?

david_4_01-23-2025_202445-1 (56:59):
is good.
Hair shed is really good.

brian_4_01-23-2025_182445 (57:02):
Yeah, yeah, and we'll know for sure if
the carcass is good when we getthat data

david_4_01-23-2025_202445-1 (57:07):
Oh yeah, getting scanned at it.
People have probably got thecatalogs coming their way
already, probably in the mail.
I'm assuming and then that'sgonna be a handout available at
the sale

brian_4_01-23-2025_182445 (57:18):
Yeah, we'll have a update sheet, or I
guess, I don't know if it'sreally update, but yeah.
Sheet with all the carcass andyearling all that stuff that we
hadn't, you know, that theyweren't old enough to do before
we had to get the catalog out.

david_4_01-23-2025_202445-1 (57:35):
And what sales side are you using
for

brian_4_01-23-2025_182445-1 (57:37):
We, it'll be on liveauctions.
tv.

david_4_01-23-2025_202445-1 (57:41):
and they'll put up at the
supplemental as well

brian_4_01-23-2025_182445- (57:43):
What was that?

david_4_01-23-2025_2024 (57:44):
They'll put up the supplement as well
the carcass,

brian_4_01-23-2025_182445 (57:47):
Yeah, they'll put that up there.

david_4_01-23-2025_202445-1 (57:50):
Get the lot order up there and
everything and then that's onFebruary 6th.
How can somebody get the catalogonline?

brian_4_01-23-2025_182445-1 (57:56):
You can go through our website or go
to the Angus website and findit.

david_4_01-23-2025_202445-1 (58:01):
And then how do they contact you to
get any information?

brian_4_01-23-2025_182445-1 (58:05):
My phone number is 308 737 6213.
You can call me or text me.

david_4_01-23-2025_202445-1 (58:11):
Do you do an email?

brian_4_01-23-2025_182445 (58:13):
We're emails bear, B E A R M T N for
Mountain Angus at MSN.
com.

david_4_01-23-2025_202445-1 (58:22):
Is it MSN or Gmail?

brian_4_01-23-2025_182445- (58:24):
MSN.

david_4_01-23-2025_202445-1 (58:25):
You know, that's why you didn't give
me an email today.

brian_4_01-23-2025_182445-1 (58:27):
Oh, okay.

david_4_01-23-2025_202445-1 (58:28):
I sent this bare mountain at
Gmail.
So someone's got it,

brian_4_01-23-2025_18244 (58:31):
that'd be the problem.

david_4_01-23-2025_202445- (58:32):
That was part of the problem, yeah.
That's why you didn't get thatlink today.
Before we shut this down howmany years have you had a bull
sale, production sale?

brian_4_01-23-2025_182445-1 (58:41):
The first one was in when we bought
Foot Acres in 2002, I think.

david_4_01-23-2025_202445-1 (58:49):
So this would be your twenty
fourth?
It would be your twenty fourth.
You also have a, I believe youhave a, female sale every year
as well.

brian_4_01-23-2025_182445- (58:59):
Yep.
It's the last Saturday inOctober.

david_4_01-23-2025_202445-1 (59:04):
And you usually offer how many in
that sale?

brian_4_01-23-2025_182445-1 (59:07):
Oh, that depends.
Two years ago it was 400, thisyear it was 70, I think.
And it'll probably stay, youknow, 60 to 80.
Somewhere in that range.
Kind of focusing on breadheifers, you know, mostly I
really like selling good breadheifers think there's some value

(59:28):
in that

david_4_01-23-2025_202445- (59:30):
This last year you had a really,
really good offering.
You and I kind of talked aboutit a little bit.
I was trying to get you onbefore that sale, but you, you
were swamped, the hay season andall the other things you had
going on, plus the cattle.
it was, it was a tremendousoffering.
And that's probably the nicething about keeping your numbers
kind of where they are so thatyou can manage them is you're

(59:51):
going to now be able to offerfemales every single year.

brian_4_01-23-2025_182445 (59:54):
Yeah, and and I've told everybody who
bought females from us in thatsale two years ago that You know
if they wanted us to help markettheir females Or they're bulls,
you know, we could do both.
So there was several females inthat sale this last fall that,

(01:00:15):
you know, we're from customers.

david_4_01-23-2025_202445-1 (01:00:16):
So you're letting customers co op
back into your deal.
That's, that's pretty cool ofyou.
There's a beef master here inTennessee local breeder, and he
does that.
And that's actually a reallynice thing, especially for a
younger breeder that doesn'thave good footing yet, If
they're gonna buy five,$10,000cow from you, the only way
that's really gonna make it workfor them is to be able to have

(01:00:37):
that outlet to sell thoseprogeny

brian_4_01-23-2025_182445 (01:00:39):
Yeah.
Yeah.

david_4_01-23-2025_202445- (01:00:42):
show up at my production sale and
spending 10,000 on a cow, justletting you know.
But it, but if I take it toBrian's stole sale at the Bear
Mountain, yeah.
Somebody probably spend that,especially with that prefix
sitting there.
I like that.
I like that you're doing a solidthing for some, some pretty
research out there.
Alright, Brian.
Hey, thank you very much.
I so much appreciate that youhung in there this week and got

(01:01:03):
this done.
I wanted to interview you forquite some time.
I remember your program backwhen I first started in the
early two thousands.
And I always thought that BearMountain, why he had the coolest
name.
I don't know why.
I just thought that was areally, really cool name.
And it was a good looking bulltoo.

brian_4_01-23-2025_182445 (01:01:19):
Thank you.

david_4_01-23-2025_202445- (01:01:19):
you, and you have a great sale and
have a great night.

brian_4_01-23-2025_182445-1 (01:01:22):
All right.
Thanks for having me on here.