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July 24, 2025 78 mins

This episode begins a two episode arc discussing how changing conditions can change motivation with Wouter Stellaard, Behavior 360 and the Kuzo Group. In this episode Wouter discusses the many, and not exclusive, ways in which we can change conditions to change motivation that do not involve diet management.  The episode begins by discussing motivation as a construct and a label and then breaking down motivating operations and setting events. Wouter educates on the many ways in which we can alter antecedents and the environment in order to effect motivation.  Additionally, Wouter encourages listeners to evaluate ourselves and our shaping plans.  Stay tuned in for Wouter’s “Training Tale” about getting into the weeds of training Calm Attentive Behaviors (CAB) with wolves at Bearizona.   For questions or suggestions about the podcast email ⁠abc@theabma.org⁠ and to contact Wouter email wstellaard@behavior360.com or wouters@thekuzogroup.com 

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Let's talk some training and banter about behavior! 

3:50 Introduction to Wouter Stellaard 

9:40 A jumping off point for a discussion 

11:35 Change from weight management mindset to behavior management mindset

15:10 Definition of Motivation

18:50 Motivation as a label 

22:55 Motivation and the Study of One in One Moment

26:20 Definition of Motivating Operations and Setting Events 

29:20 Relationship and Trust 

30:40 Variety of reinforcers 

31:10 Variety of asked behaviors, rate of reinforcement 

33:20 Shifting the mindset to what we can do and away from the animal isn’t motivated

37:10 Antecedents and changing the environment 

43:50 Evaluating ourselves 

49:55 Differential Outcome Effect

52:00 Competing Reinforcers 

56:30 Reevaluating our shaping plan

59:40 Low Motivation vs Reinforced Behavior 

1:03:50 Social Structure and Hierarchy 

1:13:50 “Training Tales” 

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