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Rewind back to Sunday 9-7-2003 (hour 1)
In the episode you will hear
Mark, Donna, Brad, Jamie, & Jason the intern

Do you kiss your pets?

Do you talk to them

Kirby the stock tip cat

Fact or Fiction

A cat was given baby tylenol. That is a  BAD thing. 

Kayla listening on KFAB - What can I put in my rat's cage? Are cedar chips bad?  (spoiler: yes)

Email from Tony - Why do dogs sniff people's crotches?  

Annette on KFAB - tries the Fact or Fiction

Suzanne has a guess about the scorpions and cat pee question.

Email question: I see a trend of naughty pets. How do I keep from getting bit when I am out and about?

Chris from Hartford CT listening online. My wife wants a dog but I have a dog phobia, what can I do? 

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Thanks for listening and as always... Have an exotic week and kiss your wild thing for me.

Send your pet photos in now and we will add your fur kids to the #PetParade. jamie@animaltalkradio.com


Did you know that over half of pet owners admit to kissing their furry companions, and a third confess to talking to them on the phone? These surprising statistics reveal just how deeply connected we are to our animal family members - but this close bond sometimes leads us down dangerous paths.

We share the sobering story of a cat named Cuddles who nearly died after her owner administered "baby Tylenol" based on internet advice claiming it was safe. This cautionary tale highlights why consulting your veterinarian is always better than trusting Dr. Google with your pet's health. The internet might be the information superhighway, but it's also the misinformation superhighway when it comes to pet care.

For small animal owners, we dive into budget-friendly bedding alternatives like shredded newspaper that work just as well as expensive pet store options. Just remember to avoid cedar and pine shavings, which contain toxic oils that can harm your little critters.

Dog behavior takes center stage as we tackle everything from inappropriate sniffing to handling potential aggression. When your dog greets visitors with an embarrassing crotch inspection, the solution isn't punishment but training alternative greeting behaviors. And if you encounter an unfamiliar dog while walking, we provide potentially life-saving advice: avoid eye contact, turn sideways, remain still, and never run or scream - actions that could trigger a chase response.

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(01:07):
So here we go Having a littlebit of fun.

Mark Honas (01:13):
It's Animal Talk.
You're in another one of thosemoods today, aren't you?

Donna (01:17):
You know what?
It was a nice day, had thewindows down.

Jamie (01:21):
Lots of fumes.

Mark Honas (01:22):
Leave the garage Actually on the way up it was a
fumes from sitting in trafficbecause Kiss Ted Nugent and
Aerosmith are in concert tonightin downtown Detroit, right next
door to the Lions playing aswell, yeah, and so driving
through there, there were fumes,but they were just different.

Caller (01:40):
I'm not quite sure what they were, but they were
different.

Mark Honas (01:44):
So I'm feeling good.
Anyone got any cookies?
I am your fish, reptile and petproduct expert, and sitting
across from me is I'm Dr BradDavis.

Dr. Brad (01:52):
I'm a slight bit calmer than that.
I'm here to answer all yourveterinary-related questions.

Donna (01:57):
And I'm Donna Blumel.
I'll be here to answer anytraining questions.

Mark Honas (01:59):
I'm going to be playing a little fact or fiction
in a few moments here becausewe want to give something away,
or at least I do.
I like to give stuff away.
It's animal talk.
Okay, it's fine.
Actually, I was taken to thewoodshed lately for the amount
of things that have been givenaway.
So you're going to actuallyhave to win this time, folks.
So now he's giving away awoodshed.

(02:20):
You know we're going to have acolor poll today, according to
the American Animal HospitalAssociation.
Did you know there was such athing, brad?

Dr. Brad (02:27):
We're in it.
Well, very good.

Mark Honas (02:29):
Showed that 33% of pet owners admit that they talk
to their dog on the phone orleave messages on the answering
machine while away for theirpets.

Dr. Brad (02:39):
They're using the deuce for good things.

Mark Honas (02:43):
And the same poll tells us that 55% of pet owners
kiss their pets.
So the poll question today isdo you talk to your pet?
Do you kiss your pet?
We will find out the truth.

Donna (02:56):
Well, aren't you going to poll everybody here?
Okay, all right, do you?

Mark Honas (03:00):
Do I talk to my pet?
It depends on which pets mysnakes and lizards and fish.
I talk to the fish but not tothe snakes and lizards.

Donna (03:07):
Okay, why are the fish being talked to when they're
through glass and water?

Dr. Brad (03:11):
Yeah, well, he likes to make like it's a prison visit
.

Caller (03:16):
Okay all right, he puts his hand up against the glass,
they put their fin on it Fairenough.

Mark Honas (03:21):
I'll get out of here .
Usually, put their fin on it,fair enough, I'll get you out of
here.
Usually it's like no, no, getaway from the filter and take oh
, stupid fish.
Five seconds later, the fishwas who is that.
The cats?
Yes, I talk to the cats and Ido kiss them.
Yes, the cats we do, but notthe snakes and the yes, and you
Brad.

Dr. Brad (03:39):
Oh sure you got to talk to the animals.
I mean, no one else talks to me, I have to Do you kiss them
Occasionally, occasionally.
Sometimes it's while I'msleeping and I can't help it,
duh.

Caller (03:50):
Okay that scares me.
Yeah, I'm a little worriedabout that one.

Jamie (03:52):
There's a hand up as a trainer.

Donna (03:54):
I'm always talking to not just my pets, but everybody's
pets, Telling them what a goodjob they're doing.

Mark Honas (03:59):
Do you kiss them?
Yes, depends on which one,though, right.
Yeah, the litter box licker.
You probably don't right.

Donna (04:06):
No.

Mark Honas (04:07):
There's certain dogs you want to kiss and certain
dogs you don't want to kiss.

Donna (04:10):
Well see, and that's the good thing For any trainer out
there here's a big tip for you.
Ask questions first.
Don't just lean down and starttalking to the doggy until you
find out why they're there Newtrainer's new trainer starting
out.
There's a little tip for you,especially if you've got a dog
that's very aggressive withpeople's faces, and then you put
your face down.

Jamie (04:28):
See now I have a cat his name's kirby, and uh what you'd
be surprised about amazingstock tips he gives you amazing
stuff yes, yes, but does he does, he scratch on him, you know
you put the newspaper out andyou tell him which one I put on
the news channel and he hits theticker tape at the bottom.
There you go.

Dr. Brad (04:51):
That's a Disney movie, if I ever heard one.

Donna (04:55):
Kirby, the Stock Tip Cat.

Mark Honas (04:58):
I think that cloud I drove through goes through
Jamie's house too.
What you got there, Brad.

Dr. Brad (05:02):
I got something cool.
This is something a fax Ireceived from an emergency
clinic.
It's not really that coolbecause it's kind of a sad
situation for the pet, but thisis.
I'm going to read the historyhere.
I'm going to take out the names, but this actually arrived at
my clinic today from anemergency clinic.
Cuddles is a two-year-oldfemale, spayed domestic
short-haired cat who hadenlarged some Some manipulative
lymph nodes.
We've been giving Clavamox butdiscontinued because of vomiting

(05:25):
.
Here we go.
Although she seemed to beimproving somewhat, the owner
felt she was painful and startedto give her one quarter of a
tablet of baby Tylenol everyeight hours after reading
information on the internet thatit was safe to give.
Oh boy, all right, and soCuddles gradually worsened until
she was extremely depressed.
This evening, apparently,cuddles is doing better.
But the thing about it is Ijust was going to say it is the

(05:48):
information superhighway, butthis is something that I see way
too much of, I'm sure you seeway too much.

Mark Honas (05:52):
We see this all the time.

Donna (05:53):
It could also be the misinformation superhighway For
the most part, especially whendealing with veterinary
questions.
Really the place to go isstraight to your vet.
Don't rely on the informationyou get on the Internet.
You could seriously hurt yourpet, and it's a sad reality.
We see so much of that.

Mark Honas (06:12):
I saw, and one of the things I saw was a site on
rats, a posting board on rats,talking about the doses of
amoxicillin you should be givinga rat.

Caller (06:24):
And you know I don't know anything about that.

Mark Honas (06:25):
You don't give amoxicillin.
You should be giving a rat andyou know, I don't know anything
about that.
You don't give amoxicillin.
That was my first thought, butI reckon the dosage looked
interesting to me.
It looked high because justrecently we had gotten
amoxicillin for my daughter.
It was the same dose that youwould give a child.
So basically what they and I'mthinking, oh my goodness.
And one of two things happened,somebody and I'm thinking, oh
my goodness.

Caller (06:45):
And one or two things happen.

Mark Honas (06:45):
Somebody types something in wrong or have no
idea what the heck they'retalking about and just want to
sound like an expert, and thathappens on the Internet a lot.

Jamie (06:54):
So you've got to be really careful.
Happens on the show from timeto time, I'm sorry.
What's this on?

Dr. Brad (06:58):
As I always say, there's more clowns with
websites than red noses, so justremember not necessarily
everything you're going to readmakes any difference in the
world.
It could be completely wrongand unfortunately this was just
a great example of why that's aproblem.
So I just brought it in andprobably broke a law, but there
it is.
What's that say?

Jamie (07:17):
at the top, personal and confidential.

Dr. Brad (07:20):
No, that was something else, jamie, that's not that.

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Mark Honas (08:03):
It's the only thing I'm going to say correctly all
day, so I thought I'd get out ofthe way quick.

Jamie (08:07):
Yeah, hurry up Moving right along Hubba gabba.

Donna (08:13):
That was a wonderful impersonation.
I did just like him.

Mark Honas (08:17):
Now what we're going to do is, don't forget.
We have the fact or fiction outthere, three stories, three
facts that we read.
Two of them are a lie, afabrication, out and out wrong,
and one of them is true.
Pick the true one and win aprize.
Fact one Mountain chickens usewhipped skin secretions to make
their nests.

Donna (08:36):
Fact number two A Florida state senator introduced
legislation to make the wordskeeter a legal synonym for
mosquito Slap their skeeter.

Dr. Brad (08:46):
I guarantee the words nom nom nom were not in there.
It was not typed that way.
A Sacramento man is suing forharassment after a supervisor
put a business suit wearingchimp at his desk to show how
easy his job is.

Mark Honas (09:00):
You know, wouldn't it be?
I mean, can you imagine cominghome to secretion?
Sweet secretions for home,sweet home, sorry.
Okay, moving right along, Canyou imagine coming home to
Secretions?
Sweet Secretions for Home,sweet Home, sorry.

Donna (09:06):
Okay, moving right along.
No, please.

Mark Honas (09:09):
Okay, they play better up here than they do out
here.

Donna (09:11):
I'm so glad we rehearsed.
We need to get him that specialfilter.

Dr. Brad (09:16):
It's called a gag.
I can show Brad where his turnoff his microphone button is.

Mark Honas (09:21):
Fine, let's go to Kayla.
Listen to us on KFAB.
Hey, kayla, welcome to Animal.
Talk off his microphone buttonis fine let's go to kayla.

Caller (09:28):
Listen to us on kfab.
Hey, kayla, welcome to animaltalk.
What can we do for you today?
Um, I have a question about myrat case.
Okay, lining, I put in thereand and the people the pet store
we got it from said that wehave to use a certain kind
because wood chips are toxic tothem okay c.

Donna (09:42):
Cedar wood chips are toxic.
Cedar and pine are definitelynot good.

Caller (09:45):
Yes, they are so.

Donna (09:47):
You don't want to use either of those products.
What I do with my own personalrat I use shredded newspaper and
shredded paper.
I have a paper shredder andwhenever the bag gets full I
just use that and I actually usethat in most of my little
critters' cages.
They can wad it up.
They can make bedding out of it.
I also throw an additional thathamster bedding.

(10:10):
I don't know, yeah, the littlefluffy stuff, the fluffy stuff
that they can build a nest outof.
I also supply most of my ratswith nesting boxes as well,
because they like to feel safeand they like to be close and
that's their favorite spot.
But I've used shreddednewspaper for years and I've
never had a problem.
You just need to clean it alittle bit better than most.

Mark Honas (10:32):
Kayla, let me ask you a question.
What are you currently using?
What do the pet shops say youshould use?

Caller (10:38):
I'm not sure what it's called.
It's pretty expensive.
That's why I was asked.
They were just telling me a fib, you know.

Mark Honas (10:46):
Well, they were telling you correctly about the
wood chips, but limbing it andsaying it's only the very
expensive bedding.
The other thing if you don'twant to go through the expense
or not the expense, but the timeand effort of shredding
newspaper corn cob litter workswell.
The only problem with corn coblitter if you let it go too long
between cleaning, you can endup with mold.
You just have to clean it on aregular basis.

Donna (11:06):
Right, that's true with anything that you're going to
put in the bottom of the cageAny time that you have a little
critter.

Mark Honas (11:12):
Expense.
I know I'm at expense ofshredding newspaper.
I meant time.
There's not expense at the time.

Donna (11:17):
But if you have a paper shredder or if you know somebody
who has a paper shredder, Imean I'm telling you that's the
best way to go because it's anever-ending supply and it's
free.

Mark Honas (11:25):
And your mom and dad have those papers in that file
box.

Jamie (11:28):
Sure, go ahead and use it If your parents work for Enron
you're probably doing thatalready.

Dr. Brad (11:34):
Report card time Bingo there you go Okay.

Mark Honas (11:37):
Kayla, I got a question for you.
Call or poll you ready.

Caller (11:40):
Okay.

Mark Honas (11:41):
Do you talk to your pet and do you kiss your pet?

Caller (11:46):
Yeah, they're really cute.

Jamie (11:49):
Yeah, there you go.

Mark Honas (11:50):
Yeah, they are I see , don't you wish somebody would
say that about us, brad?

Dr. Brad (11:56):
Well, not in our lifetime.

Jamie (11:59):
Maybe if you're reincarnated as a rat.
Hey, there you go.

Mark Honas (12:01):
So you're saying for Brad and I a rat is a step up
Pretty much All right.
Hey, there you go.
So you're saying for Brad and Ia rat is a step up Pretty much
All right.
Hey, kayla, thanks for calling.
We appreciate it All right.

Caller (12:10):
Thanks for the help.
Bye-bye.

Mark Honas (12:11):
Pick up the phone and give us a call so we can
make your world animologicallysafe and sound.
I'm going to throw a littleother little tricky trivia out
here, just for the fun of itbecause, I like this one.
What do scorp scorpions and catpee have in common.

Jamie (12:29):
Scorpions as the band, scorpions as the animal, because
there's a smell thing, theirdressing room and a litter box,
yeah, Smelling like a cat box.

Mark Honas (12:37):
What do scorpions?
And cat pee have in common.
Here I am smelling like.

Dr. Brad (12:43):
Do we have any?

Mark Honas (12:44):
scorpions.

Jamie (12:45):
Smelling like a urinal See it works.
Do we have any scorpions?
Smelling like a urinal, see itworks.

Dr. Brad (12:48):
A litter box.
Litter box.

Mark Honas (12:50):
Yeah, but urinal rhymes, litter box doesn't.

Dr. Brad (12:53):
The rehearsals here are great.

Mark Honas (12:56):
Is this thing on?
Let's do an email, okay.

Jamie (13:05):
A thingy-do, yeah, exactly.

Dr. Brad (13:08):
Okay, dear Animal Talk .

Mark Honas (13:10):
Congratulations, Skippy.
You've got mail.

Dr. Brad (13:12):
Oh, I should have pre-read.
Why do dogs sniff people'scrotches?
Wait, there's more.
It is disgusting.
Every time I bring someone overto my apartment, my dog goes
right for the crotch.
With guys, I just tell them tobox his ears.
But when it's a honey it'sreally awkward.

Mark Honas (13:35):
Oh, gee whiz yeah.

Dr. Brad (13:37):
I'm betting this is a problem fairly constantly.
Yeah, how can I stop my goofymutt from sniffing the neither
regions, oh sir.

Mark Honas (13:46):
I think there's too many.

Dr. Brad (13:47):
I's in your life.
This is from Tony, from theneither regions, neither regions
.

Donna (13:54):
That's great.
Well, what you're going to wantto do is train your dog to do
something other than greet yourguests at the door, for instance
, having them sit and stay inplace of going up and greeting.
Give them corrections wheneverthey do something you don't like
, but you need to understandthat this is a dog's natural way
of getting to understand whoyou are.

Jamie (14:15):
Getting to know you Exactly.
They're learning your scent Ifyou've ever seen two dogs greet
each other.

Donna (14:21):
That's the first thing they're doing is jockeying for a
position to see who can getthere first.
They're trying to check out andsee who's who and if they
recognize you.
But you want to train them.

Caller (14:34):
I know this is such a silly topic, isn't it?

Mark Honas (14:37):
So when you call a dog a butt sniff, that's a good
thing.

Donna (14:40):
That's a normal dog thing .
Okay good, I just wanted tomake sure.

Dr. Brad (14:42):
But let me answer this .
Tony believes that boxing thedog's ears is a good idea.
I would bet it's not.

Donna (14:50):
No no.

Mark Honas (14:54):
Because, especially where the dog's mouth is right
at the time when you box.

Donna (14:56):
Yeah well, that would certainly be a problem, wouldn't
it?
No, anytime you hit a dog,you're going to get two
responses out of them.
You're either going to get whatwe call head shy, where anytime
you reach to pet them, theythink they're about to be hit
and they become extremelyworried and anxious about that,
or they're going to becomeaggressive and they're going to
fight back because you've justattacked them.
Basically, you should never dothat.

(15:18):
That's why I said train the dogto do something other than what
it's doing.

Dr. Brad (15:22):
And much like housebreaking.
You should never rub their nosein it.

Donna (15:25):
Am I right?
Yes, you've got that right.
That's not going to help.

Mark Honas (15:31):
All right.
Hey, let's go to the phones.
Let's go to Annette listeningto us on KFAB.
Hey, annette, welcome to AnimalTalk.
You guys just crack me up.
You know that.

Caller (15:41):
I bet you have a large net, don't you, Annette?

Mark Honas (15:48):
I do.
You are hilarious.
Har, har, har, I get thatresponse from everybody.
Okay, I think.

Dr. Brad (15:58):
I know which one is the fact.
Which one?
I think the chimp in the chairis the fact, sorry.

Mark Honas (16:01):
That one is a lie.

Dr. Brad (16:03):
That's a fabrication.

Mark Honas (16:04):
But it seems like somebody should have done that
by now, doesn't it?

Caller (16:07):
You know, can I argue that point?
Sure, you can.
Sure you can, only if I couldactually get anywhere.
That's all right, never mind.

Mark Honas (16:16):
Go ahead and argue with that point.
We're used to it, we're married, okay, you're in big trouble,
mister.

Donna (16:22):
Always.
Oh the tone, you got the tone.
Yes, I do Thank you very much.

Mark Honas (16:28):
You know, all women can do that.
I don't know why it takes yearsof practice.

Donna (16:33):
I know some people that can't.

Mark Honas (16:34):
I don't know, I've mastered the look though.
Oh, you can do the tone too,donna.
I've heard the tone.

Dr. Brad (16:41):
I'm not going down that hole with you, Mark.

Caller (16:42):
Okay, well, thanks, anyway, all right.

Mark Honas (16:47):
You know what you're thinking, Because actually what
you've heard is that somebodysaid once upon a time that
somebody had done that.
They called the show and saidoh, I heard somebody had did
that.
The person who read the factthis time mistakenly, mistakenly
re-read it.

Dr. Brad (17:00):
It was a fact that we've done before and I don't
want to mention the person whoread it.

Caller (17:06):
Okay, I did, I didn't know, no no, I mean it, but it
wasn't.

Dr. Brad (17:08):
It wasn't marked up, so we just reread the fake fact
over and that's why it seemsreal.
Actually, quite tricky on ourpart.
We did it on purpose, okay well, thank you anyway thank you for
calling.

Mark Honas (17:17):
Oh, we told him we got a caller poll for you,
though did we?
We have a caller poll for you,annette.

Caller (17:23):
Okay, go for it.

Mark Honas (17:25):
According to the American Animal Hospital
Association, 33% of pet ownersadmit talking to their pets on
the phone and leaving messagesfor them on their answering
machines, and 55% of them admitto kissing their pets.

Caller (17:39):
Of course.

Mark Honas (17:40):
Do you leave messages for your pets on your
phone or do you talk to them?

Caller (17:44):
I talk to them on the phone.

Mark Honas (17:46):
Do they answer back?

Caller (17:49):
Well, I don't know, do we have any psychiatrists
listening, because I'm a littleworried about making that
statement.

Mark Honas (17:55):
No see, everybody that's here actually are
psychotic.
So come on, join the party.

Caller (17:59):
Oh well, they don't actually answer, but their ears
perk up.
I have witnesses to that.
Oh so you make them perky.
They don't actually answer, buttheir ears perk up.

Mark Honas (18:06):
I have witnesses to that, so you make them perky.

Caller (18:10):
I'm not going there either, okay Do you kiss them.
Of course.

Mark Honas (18:16):
So you make them perky and then you kiss them.

Caller (18:18):
Stop it.
You know, I think we're donewith this conversation.

Mark Honas (18:23):
Thank you.
Thanks for calling Annette, weappreciate it.
I thought you were in troublebefore, mister.

Caller (18:26):
Now you've gone over the line I've been in trouble so
many times in my life, it'sscary.

Mark Honas (18:30):
Hey, thanks for calling, Suzanne.
We really do appreciate it,Annette.

Caller (18:33):
All right, bye-bye.

Mark Honas (18:34):
Bye-bye.
So let's go back to the phones.
Let's go to Suzanne.
Hey, Suzanne, listen to us onKFAB how you doing.
Hi Okay, so you think you knowwhat scorpions and cat pee have
in common.

Caller (18:46):
Yeah, I think so.
My daughter gave me this answerIf you put black light on both
of them, they'll both glow inthe dark.

Mark Honas (18:54):
You're absolutely correct.
Congratulations, suzanne.
You said your daughter gave youthe answer.

Jamie (19:00):
Yes, your daughter is very bright, your daughter Randy
.
How old is Randy?

Caller (19:05):
Randy just turned 13.
Okay, daughter Randy.
How old is Randy?
Randy just turned 13.

Mark Honas (19:06):
Okay, congratulations, randy.
All right, woo-hoo.

Jamie (19:11):
Well, that's okay, Suzanne what kind of?
Pets do you and Randy have?

Caller (19:16):
We have a hamster and a rat.

Mark Honas (19:18):
Oh, very good, I think we can come up with some
critter love treats for yourhamster and your rats.
How does that sound?
Yeah?

Caller (19:24):
Very good.

Mark Honas (19:25):
I like that.
Oh, excellent, I'll tell youwhat we'll put you holding.
Get your information and getyour prices out, Alrighty.
Thank you so much for calling.
Thank you, Okay.
So my, my accolade.
My accolade was a little, it'slike.

Dr. Brad (19:36):
Mark's gone wild.
I, I'm 44 years old.
What do you want?
I mean, that's as wild as itgets anymore.
Okay, Decision Mark got aprostate exam.

Caller (19:47):
Woo, this is funny, mark , this is a week.

Mark Honas (19:51):
We're here for you in any way we possibly can,
because we know people haveanimals and people have problems
.
We fix the problems.
You keep the animals, theworld's happy, everything's
wonderful here.
On Animal Talk, let's do anemail Dr Brad.

Dr. Brad (20:06):
Okay, well, we have two possible emails.
We have an email about snakes,which is just about snakes, and
we have a discussion email.

Mark Honas (20:12):
Oh, let's do a discussion email.

Dr. Brad (20:13):
All right, this one starts out, Dear Dr Davis.

Caller (20:16):
You've got mail, baby, yeah.

Dr. Brad (20:19):
This is a person who read a column I wrote about
ill-tempered pets and says I'vebeen a dog lover all my life,
but lately I've noticed a trendof naughty dogs.
Part of it, I'm sure, is theowners handling other pets.
I was wondering if you couldgive any advice of how to avoid
being bit by a dog.
I take daily walks in myneighborhood.
I've been lunged at by threedifferent dogs over the past 18
months.
These dogs were running aroundthem forever.
I know enough of body languageto distinguish play from

(20:48):
aggression.

Mark Honas (20:50):
I love it, I love my little naughty pet.

Donna (20:54):
You're naughty there, you go.

Dr. Brad (20:57):
Her husband helped save her on both occasions when
the dogs attacked.
Now she finds she's afraid ofdogs and doesn't like them
anymore.
She's puzzled why she's beenattacked three times in such a
short amount of time and she'sgetting a reputation of being
afraid of pets in herneighborhood.
So the question is I'm hearingmore and more about this all the
time.
What I'm wondering is what'sthe cause?

(21:17):
Is it because people are nottaking care of their pets better
?
And what can you do to saveyourself when you're well?

Donna (21:23):
I, I don't, I don't want to say that it's because they're
not taking care of their pet,because they may be taking their
, their dog, to the vet and theymay be doing everything that's
required by veterinary standards, um, as far as vaccinating
heartworm, all that good feedingthem and all that kind of stuff
they they, you know.
So it's not necessarily a matterof taking care of.
I think it's more along thelines of too many people being

(21:44):
in denial.
We see that.
I mean you've seen the animalsthat come into the clinic A lot
of times.
When I spend a half hour or sotalking to them about their
animal's behavior, I can tellthat most of them don't believe
me and it's because they don'twant to.
And I do believe that,especially the way that she
worded this is.

(22:05):
You know that people will laughit off like, oh, they're just
playing.
I think a lot of people are indenial about that and they're
not being as responsible as theyabsolutely can.

Mark Honas (22:13):
Well, we had friends of ours who rescued a dog from
the Humane Society, as they putit, brought it home and knew the
dog had aggressive problems andthey had a two-year-old or
three-year-old child.
But they brought the dog homeand they were working with the
dog.
They worked with the trainerfor months and months and months
and what ended up happening isthe dog seemed to be fine with
the family.
They hired a babysitter.

Caller (22:32):
Mm-hmm.

Mark Honas (22:33):
The babysitter took the child out to the park,
brought the child back and camehome and the dog went for the
babysitter, bit her on the ankleand the back of the leg and the
woman decided that she wasgoing to have the dog put down
because at this point couldn'ttrust the dog.

Caller (22:48):
Right.

Donna (22:49):
And didn't feel that she should take the dog back to a
shelter, and pass this problemto somebody else, right, right,
and a lot of people don't dothat, and you know what was so
amazing?

Mark Honas (22:57):
It Right, and a lot of people don't do that.
And you know what's so amazing?
It's how many people and familyand friends berated her.
What did the babysitter do tocause the dog to attack?

Donna (23:05):
Right, and now see.
This is the thing, though.
What people don't understand isdog language can be very subtle
.
Now, it could have been, in thedog's mind, a provoked attack.

Mark Honas (23:15):
Right.

Donna (23:16):
But who are we to say?

Mark Honas (23:18):
And if the average person cannot judge it instantly
and you can't there are somedogs.

Donna (23:23):
I mean, I've encountered many dogs that are very hard to
read, where one minute you knowyou're thinking, okay, yeah,
he's not giving me the funnylook and everything, and the
doctor will come into the roomand the dog will go after him.

Mark Honas (23:42):
You know, the dog didn't give me any sign of that,
no indication.
When I saw the dog, the dogcame up to me.
I was petting it, everythingwas fine.
It's that stink of death that'saround all the vats.

Donna (23:46):
But see, we have that too .
We all work at the bad placeyou know, and it's something
that I think a lot of people arereally.
I think what it is is.
They're in denial, her family,your friend's family, berating
her.
She did what was right.
She was being responsible.

Dr. Brad (24:00):
Absolutely.
Let me go a little bit further.
I think the problem we'retalking about the owners.
We're putting it on the dogs,but I think it is on the owners.
A few years ago we had agunshot.
This weekend we were talkingabout it a little earlier, but
the thing is we had a gunshot ofa dog, a Rottweiler.
This man would let hisRottweiler run around the
neighborhood.

Donna (24:16):
Well, that's why he said responsible pet owners.

Dr. Brad (24:18):
He lets the dog run around.
It was a very nice dog.
But it runs up to a guy, looksat him.
The guy pulls a handgun fromunder his coat, points it at the
dog's head and shoots.
Now the dog survived.
It just skidded over his scalp.
But I mean, it's just amazing.

Mark Honas (24:32):
There's no way this dog could have survived.

Dr. Brad (24:33):
But the point is is that number one you know, here's
a prescription fence applyliberally?

Jamie (24:38):
And the second thing is you know, think about moving.
There's people walking aroundcarrying guns, but the thing
about it is and it ain't Texasbaby.

Mark Honas (24:48):
But the thing about it is that's Jamie at
AnimalTalkRadiocom.
For those of us, no in Texas.

Jamie (24:52):
They got pistols.
That's what they do.
That is true, they carry themaround, they can Android.
That's not so much, yeah, oh,yeah Well okay.

Dr. Brad (25:00):
The point that I'm making, though, is that the
person was horribly upset, butit was their own fault.
If your dog is in your yard, noone's going to be scared of it
and put a bullet in its head, Imean, and that's just a fact.

Donna (25:12):
A responsible pet owner would be taking the necessary
precautions to make sure thattheir dog because you know, and
it really doesn't matter howfriendly the dog is there are
people out there that are scaredof dogs.
They live in your neighborhood.
If you have a big dog, which Ido, and she is possibly one of
the sweetest dogs in the worldand wouldn't hurt a fly, but
because of her size people areterrified of her.

Mark Honas (25:37):
My advice is anybody who is around, if I see a dog
that's unaccompanied on a leash,I assume the dog is dangerous.
I immediately assume that and Ithrow rocks to get it away.
I'll make sure that it staysaway from me.
I mean just to scare the dogaway, because I don't want the
dog coming around my family.

Jamie (25:51):
I usually scream like a girl and run.
Not a good idea.
Not a good idea.

Donna (25:55):
Not a good idea, unless you can get into a tree quicker.

Mark Honas (25:58):
Because that prey drive thing kicks right in and
you're pretty much toast.
Yorkie.

Dr. Brad (26:04):
You had a dog that was at a different level, making a
mess in your yard wasn't it?
Oh yeah, and that just made forbad neighbor relations.
But it wasn't a dangerous thing, but it just made you hate your
neighbor.

Mark Honas (26:14):
Yeah, jamie shared with something to poop on?

Donna (26:16):
Yeah, no, but Jamie brought up a great point Never
scream and run and you knowshaking the hands and all that
good stuff when you approach adog, because this was another
part of her letter to you.
When you're walking and there'sa strange dog approaching you,
do not make eye contact, do not.
That is a challenge in doglanguage.
If you can turn your front awayfrom the dog, kind of have your

(26:40):
side more to them, that's avery non-threatening stance.
To have a dog approach you inDon't say anything, just stand
there very still like a statue.
You're in statue mode, youdon't move.
You can raise your arms up overyour head or you can leave them
down at your side.
You just really don't never tryto call a dog to you.

(27:00):
That's the other thing.
And it's so hard because youreally do want to save some of
these dogs that are roaming freebut you never know what you're
going to get.
I had a chow chase me to myhouse.

Mark Honas (27:09):
What about when the dog comes up to you and you're
scared and you pee yourself?
Is that a good move?

Dr. Brad (27:14):
If you're dressed as a hydrant, it's fine.
The dog will join in.
Then you'll have something incommon.
Oh my, but no, if you holdstill and if you are a tat, get
down flat in your belly coveryour head and just let them chew
your butt.
But your butt will grow back.

Mark Honas (27:33):
Yeah, you know this, don't you?
Brad's butt's been bit moretimes than— First-hand knowledge
.

Donna (27:39):
You want to make yourself as least threatening in
appearance as you possibly can.

Mark Honas (27:44):
If you want to see Brad's butt chewed on, you can
go to animaltalkradiocom.
Click on the pictures page andgo right to classic favorites.

Dr. Brad (27:54):
Now wait.
We should point out this is nota video game.
This is not where you willactually see my butt chewed on.
You'll see where it was chewedon it's the bruise, it's the
after effect.

Mark Honas (28:02):
It's not watching Brad being chewed.
We've thought about setting upthe camera and catching that the
Pac-Man sound.

Jamie (28:10):
When animals attack Brad Don't forget.

Mark Honas (28:14):
We still have the fact or fiction out there.
Two facts.
One it.
We still have the fact orfiction out there.
Two facts One of them is true,one of them is a lie.
You got a 50-50 shot and yougot to the end of the hour.
Then we're giving the answeraway and no one goes home with a
prize this hour.
Oh no, we did give one away.
We can give it away, okay.
Fact one Mountain chickens usedwhip skin secretions to make
their nest.

Donna (28:32):
Fact number two Stop that .

Dr. Brad (28:37):
Remember the uncomfortable, is always free
here at Animal Talk All right.

Donna (28:40):
Fact number two A Florida state senator introduced
legislation to make the wordskeeter a legal synonym for
mosquito.

Mark Honas (28:48):
Can I have the skin secretion soup please?

Dr. Brad (28:51):
One eight All right For.

Mark Honas (28:54):
America.
Yeah, thank you, chris, callingfrom Hartford, connecticut.
Listen to us on the internet.
What can we do for you today,chris?
Not much.
How are you?
Wild and crazy.
Beautiful Got a littlehome-related issue.
My wife wants a dog.
I am one of those people whoare slightly scared of dogs.

(29:14):
I was treed by five wild dogswhen I was camping.
And every one of them were Cujo.
Yeah, close enough, exactly.
So I mean we tried getting abeagle which is, I mean,
harmless enough.
We went to a reputable rescueagency up in New Hampshire and
we brought him home and he wasokay.
For a couple weeks he startedacting up.

(29:36):
We figured it was just himadjusting to his environment.
Took him to training, workedwith him at least a half hour to
45 minutes daily Plus trainingtwice a week, and he got
progressively worse.
He was fine when we were attraining sessions.

(29:56):
We'd get him home and he wouldrespond to my wife and not me.
And then it got to the pointwhere I would go to even just
give my wife a hug when I camehome from work and he would
lunge at me oh boy, maybe yourwife was doing some extra
training when you weren't around.
You never know when the bad mancomes in.

Donna (30:19):
I always tell people beagles aren't for everyone,
because they do have a strongpersonality.
A lot of them do believe that,hey, if you're not going to be
the boss, I will, and certainlya lot of them do have that
personality in them.
So I'm not terribly surprisedto hear that this happened with
a beagle.
So I'm guessing that you'rewondering what would be a good
breed for you.

Mark Honas (30:41):
Something that my wife would enjoy, because she
had a, a pug, a pug.

Donna (30:48):
They're very happy little dogs Full of energy.
Boston Terrier.
Maltese Bichon.

Dr. Brad (30:54):
Golden, Golden yeah.

Donna (30:56):
Now, yes, goldens are great, they are big.
We were naming a lot of smallbreeds, thinking you'd start out
small and work your way to thebigger breeds.

Mark Honas (31:04):
You can hit a golden head with a rock and a gold Can
we play that game again.

Dr. Brad (31:06):
Yeah right, they take your lifestyle on.
They're great though, yeah theyreally are.

Mark Honas (31:12):
I hope that helps you out.
My friend, the true fact is theskin secretion chicken, the
skin secretion chicken, that wastrue.

Jamie (31:18):
That was true.

Caller (31:20):
That was pretty gross wasn't it, oh my God, the skin
secretion chicken jacketSandwich.

Mark Honas (31:26):
Hey, if you enjoyed this hour of Animal Talk, don't
worry, we're going to do it toyou all over again.

Jamie (31:35):
Thanks for being with us for another episode of Animal
Talk.
Make sure you do all thosepodcast things in the podcast
places Like subscribe.
Leave a comment.
We hope you had a little funalong the way.
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(31:57):
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Thank you so much for beinghere.
Have an exotic week and kissyour wild thing for us.

Caller (32:12):
Bye-bye boys.
Have fun storming the castle,Think it'll work it would take a
while.
Bye-bye.
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