September 30, 2025 • 42 mins
We rewind to 1979 and trace the wild mix of culture, politics, and technology that shaped how we live now, from Walkman freedom and disco backlash to international crises, feminist art, and hard lessons in safety and law. We keep it candid, curious, and a little chaotic, because the year was too.
• TV nostalgia and the CB radio boom
• Early school shooting and the Monday quote
• Ayatollah’s return and the Iran hostage crisis
• Punk mythology, Sid Vicious, and costs of image
• Tracking Nazis and Mengele’s hidden death
• Women reporters and MLB locker room access
• Brothers’ no-hitters and sports lore
• Judy Chicago’s The Dinner Party and feminist art
• Three Mile Island and Carter’s technical leadership
• “May the Fourth,” Thatcher, and political language
• Milk-carton kids, Etan Patz, and national response
• Juneteenth in Texas and John Wayne’s legacy
• The Walkman’s launch and mixtape culture
• Disco Demolition Night and coded backlash
• Greensboro Klan violence and failed justice
• Shattered backboards, The Who tragedy, and safety
• Smallpox eradication and the power of vaccines
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SPEAKER_03 (00:00):
We're recording.
Okay.
Hi.
Hi.
How are you?
I'm just fine.
How are you?
My name's Ingrid.
It's so nice to meet you.
SPEAKER_04 (00:11):
My name is Jessica.
SPEAKER_03 (00:13):
Are we talking to the people?
It's nice to meet y'all.
I was actually just talking toyou.
They knew me.
Oh.
You never answer the phone, so Idon't know if you remember who I
am.
Okay.
Well, anyway, welcome to anothersituation.
Yes.
We did it again.
Yes.
I think we're going to have tosay that.
(00:35):
Oh, and oops, I did it again.
We're wearing somethingdifferent.
Do you have COVID still?
I don't.
unknown (00:43):
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (00:44):
I am.
Hey, Mike.
Look at my hoodie.
SPEAKER_03 (00:49):
Oh, because it's we're recording this.
Oh, actually, and I think it'sgetting released still during
Suicide Awareness Month.
Okay.
Topic.
It's nice that we both decidedto dress up.
(01:10):
I didn't even put makeup on.
If you are not watching, both ofus have our greasy hair pulled
up into Jessica's a nice bun.
Mine's a messy bun.
Uh mine is a nice bun.
She's in a hoodie.
Ooh.
That's like a military bun.
SPEAKER_04 (01:29):
No, I would never wear it on the top of my head.
SPEAKER_03 (01:32):
Back here.
Mine's not pretty.
And Jessica's in a hoodie, andI'm in a zip-up hoodie.
We're so dressy.
Okay.
SPEAKER_04 (01:45):
I'm sorry, I had to mute myself.
I was uh burping.
SPEAKER_03 (01:50):
What's the point of muting yourself if you're going
to announce it anyway?
So people don't have to hear theburp?
Oh, that's true.
I just had Chick-fil-A.
I'm starving.
Chick-fil-A breakfast.
Do we get any?
Do we pay royalties or do we getsome money for it?
Well, you probably have to payroyalties for that.
(02:12):
Okay.
You get started.
SPEAKER_04 (02:15):
I'm sorry, my nose is running too.
Good grief.
All right.
Quotes.
May the fourth be with you.
Reach out and touch someone.
America can't do a damn thingagainst us.
And um I just don't likeMondays.
I did this because it's a way tocheer up the day.
(02:37):
Nobody likes Mondays.
SPEAKER_03 (02:39):
I don't like Mondays.
SPEAKER_04 (02:42):
Yeah, but I like the quote, but I don't like the
person that said the quote.
SPEAKER_03 (02:46):
Oh.
Who said that?
SPEAKER_04 (02:48):
You'll find out.
Uh so the reach out and touchsomeone, that was actually ATT's
slogan.
I remember that.
Yeah, it was coined in the year1979.
So really that old?
SPEAKER_03 (03:04):
What do you mean that old?
Well, I mean I re I remember it,and I wouldn't remember it from
1979.
Well, it must have been aroundfor a while.
SPEAKER_04 (03:14):
And the guy that wrote the slogan, he was also
the guy, or he didn't write it,but he produced it, whatever.
Created.
He also did the be all you canbe for the army in 1986.
SPEAKER_03 (03:24):
Oh, okay.
Yeah, isn't that interesting?
Very interesting.
SPEAKER_04 (03:29):
So I'm covering the year 1979.
It is a great year.
It's a great year.
Okay.
I did not do the creative thingthat Ingra did because uh my
memories of 1979 are prettysmall, non-existent, actually.
And so I'm just gonna go on thethings I found interesting that
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happened in 1979.
Because it's all about you.
It's all about me.
January, I don't know.
January, you done?
Okay.
January 26, 1979.
The Dukes of Hazards starts.
SPEAKER_03 (04:11):
Oh my gosh, you should have given a warning to
move away from speakers.
Oh my bad.
SPEAKER_04 (04:18):
So um just a good old boy.
Those of you that don't know,they also had a CB radio in the
General Lee, and they were theircalls signs were Lost Sheep One
and Lost Sheep number two.
I didn't know that.
That's why I included it.
I don't remember that part atall.
However, uh Smoky and the Banditand the Dukes the Hazard helped
(04:39):
promote the CB craze that sweptAmerica um from the 70s to the
80s.
SPEAKER_03 (04:45):
Do you remember?
So we had a Czech Vince.
Yes.
And oh gosh, you guys, we had afull-size van when we were kids
because there's two of us.
Why was there a full did theyhave many vans back then?
SPEAKER_04 (04:59):
I don't think so.
It was for sporting events.
That's what they said.
Because because we were sobecause I was so athletic.
And there was okay, so there's aC V and a little TV in this
giant van.
And the truckers used to talk tous.
I remember on the way to theroller rank, there was a trucker
(05:20):
that pretended he he was likeshooting alien noises over the
CB.
He's like, be careful, they'reattacking you.
And like it was hilarious.
It was me and my friends were soentertained by it.
SPEAKER_03 (05:31):
Is that a real memory?
SPEAKER_04 (05:34):
Yes.
SPEAKER_03 (05:34):
I don't know that I don't remember that.
SPEAKER_04 (05:36):
I probably wasn't with you.
You weren't with it.
Was dad and me and my friends onthe way to the roller ring.
SPEAKER_03 (05:42):
Are you sure it wasn't dad doing it somehow?
SPEAKER_04 (05:45):
Yes, because we were talking to the guy on the CB and
we watched Rudolph on the littleTV on the way there, too.
SPEAKER_03 (05:51):
Oh, I had the worst reception though.
Remember?
Well, how what did we watch?
Like, how did we watch stuff?
I think it had an antenna.
Oh, so we got to watch like twoseconds of anything.
SPEAKER_04 (06:05):
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
So that was on January 26th.
On January 29th, all right.
This is where I got the quotefrom the Monday quote.
Brenda Spencer.
I'm so sorry.
I don't know why I includedthis.
Brenda Spencer kills two men andwounds nine children as they
enter the Grover ClevelandElementary School in San Diego.
(06:26):
She was 16 years old and herhouse was across the street from
the school, and she just shotpeople.
And when they asked why she didit, allegedly she said, I just
don't like Mondays.
I did this because it's a way tocheer up the day.
Nobody likes Mondays.
And they actually made a song,The Boomtown Rats.
(06:46):
I'm not aware of them.
Um, they created a song, I don'tlike Mondays.
SPEAKER_03 (06:51):
I never knew that there was school shootings back
then.
SPEAKER_04 (06:57):
Uh same.
That's actually why I includedit.
I didn't know it either.
SPEAKER_03 (07:00):
Well, now I'm curious when the first one ever
was.
SPEAKER_04 (07:04):
She was 16, a 16-year-old.
And I mean, she had a history ofum, I think substance use and
mental health, which doesn't noteveryone that has mental health
issues and substance use issuesdoes that.
So obviously there's more goingon, but yeah.
All right, February 1st, 1979,the Isla Ayatollah returned to
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Iran after 15 years of exile.
So I I had to do a littleresearch because the only reason
I know the Ayatollah is from thesong.
We didn't light the fire.
unknown (07:39):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (07:40):
I was just about to sing that that verse.
SPEAKER_04 (07:45):
And I I mean this history happened when before I
was even born, but I should Iknow details, like little bits
of it, just enough to not knowwhat I'm talking about.
So I alright.
So I uh looked into this, andthis is what caused that Iranian
hostage crisis, also in 1979.
Yeah, mind blown.
(08:06):
Okay.
The so he returns, Ayatollah umKomini, I think is his last
name, returns after exile 15years.
The Shah was in charge, and himand his family fled two weeks
prior to February 1st.
And the Iranian revolutionarieswanted to create a
fundamentalist exam is Islamicgovernment.
(08:30):
Under the it's a tough word.
That's okay.
Under the Ayatollah.
So they were super excited thathe came back.
So when he came back, um, he wasrunning things.
He was actually not a very goodperson.
I'm gonna talk about some of thestuff that he did in a second.
But so on November 4th, 1979, sohe came back in February.
(08:52):
This is what, nine months later,on the 15th anniversary of his
exile, students of therevolution stormed the U.S.
Ember embassy in Tehran and tookthe staff hostage.
Um, they uh they took 90hostages.
Uh they were enraged that theShah who had escaped, um, who
(09:14):
didn't want the fundamentalistexamic.
SPEAKER_03 (09:18):
Oh, there's that word again.
It's making my mouth water.
SPEAKER_04 (09:22):
Why?
I don't know.
SPEAKER_03 (09:25):
Islamic.
SPEAKER_04 (09:26):
It's not butter.
Okay.
Oh, I upset Reggie.
You did.
He doesn't like it that you'remocking me.
SPEAKER_03 (09:37):
He's salivating too.
SPEAKER_04 (09:39):
He probably is.
Okay, so they were mad that theShah was receiving medical care
in the US.
And so this was why they wereretaliating.
Okay, I lost my spot.
Um, they threatened to murderthe hostages um if anyone
attempted a rescue of thehostages in the embassy.
(10:02):
They released all female andminority Americans.
And no, I think they justreleased all female and
minorities.
Um, and then they said that theremaining 52 were left at the
mercy of the Ayatollah for thenext 14 months.
(10:25):
And they determined that umAyotola wanted the Shah to
return to Iran.
Jim President Jimmy Carter wasunable to resolve the crisis,
and this is in the 90s, I'msorry, or 80s, April 24th, 1980,
he ordered a rescue mission inwhich eight U.S.
military personnel were killedand no hostages were rescued.
(10:47):
Three months later, the Shahdied of cancer in Egypt, but the
crisis still continued.
And then in November 1980, um,is when Carter lost the election
to President Reagan.
And President Reagan, the day ofhis inauguration, he was able to
um work out a deal.
And the United States freed$3billion in frozen Iranian assets
(11:11):
and promised$5 billion more infinancial aid.
And then after that, thehostages, the same day after he
was sworn in, the hostages wereflown out of Iran and were sent
home.
444 days.
Okay, so to tell you more aboutwhat the Ayatollah did in
December of 79, the Iranianconstitution was approved.
(11:35):
Uh, he was their political andreligious leader for life, the
Ayatollah was.
And under his rule, Iranianwomen were denied equal rights
and required to wear a veil.
Western culture was banned, andtraditional Islamic law, I got
it that time.
And it's often brutal, brutalpunishments were reinstated.
SPEAKER_03 (11:56):
And listen, you probably don't know the answer
to this.
But what was it before that?
Like, did women not have tocover themselves?
SPEAKER_04 (12:03):
They didn't have to, they had equal, not well, 70s
equal rights, and no, did nothave to wear a veil.
SPEAKER_03 (12:11):
Okay.
SPEAKER_04 (12:11):
I'm I'm making that assumption.
SPEAKER_03 (12:13):
Okay.
I mean, that's what I wouldassume as well.
SPEAKER_04 (12:16):
Yeah.
So the Ayatollah actually diedon June 3rd, 89.
Um, two million mournersattended his funeral.
Uh gradually, democracy cameback to Iran in the 1990s, and
there was a free electionin '97.
I don't know the status of Iranright now, though.
So okay, moving on.
(12:38):
Okay, that was exciting.
Right.
So I knew there was a theIranian hostage crisis.
I always, I think I always mixedthat up with what happened at
the Olympics when they wassomething they like held
hostages, Olympians, right?
SPEAKER_03 (12:57):
Well, that was a lot later though, wasn't it?
SPEAKER_04 (12:59):
Yeah, but I always confused the two.
But so now I have it, I know.
Iranian hostage crisis.
SPEAKER_03 (13:06):
I don't think I confused the two.
I just never, I don't think Iever gave it very much thought.
I just knew there was a thing,and I never tried to place it in
my mind in history.
SPEAKER_04 (13:16):
Yeah.
Okay, so this part, um, do youknow who the sex pistols are?
SPEAKER_03 (13:22):
Duh.
SPEAKER_04 (13:24):
Okay.
Sid Vicious on February 2nd,1979, actually died of an
overdose.
So the thing about Sid Vicious,he had the look of the punk
rocker, but he couldn't reallyperform.
So there were times that theywould unplug his equipment so
they couldn't tell that hewasn't playing.
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Because, but they just wantedhis look so bad.
Like he said that he used towalk around London with a
swastika on his chest, a padlockkeychain around his neck, and a
gigantic chip on his shoulder.
SPEAKER_03 (13:56):
A swastika, really?
SPEAKER_04 (13:58):
Yeah.
I don't remember that.
I don't remember that either.
So uh Sid met Nancy Spongeonwhen they were on a tour and
they both fell madly in love.
They also started a really badheroin addiction.
And Nancy was stabbed in 78 intheir hotel room.
Yes, I didn't know any of this.
(14:20):
Sid was arrested and laterreleased on bail, but then he
went back to jail because hebeat some man with a beer
bottle.
So, yes.
So he made bail.
Um, oh, he spent two weeks atseven weeks at Rikers, and he
made bail on February 1st, 1979.
(14:40):
He went to a party that nightand overdosed on heroin.
The medical examiner estimatedthat he was using 80% pure grade
heroin.
So the day he got out, the dayhe got out of Rikers, he went to
a party.
SPEAKER_03 (14:56):
See, prison does such a good job with
rehabilitating people andchanging their lives.
SPEAKER_04 (15:02):
Yes, yes.
SPEAKER_03 (15:03):
That's what we should do for everybody.
SPEAKER_04 (15:06):
And it's Rikers.
Like I I just hear bad stuffabout Rikers.
So on oops, there's crumbs on mylap.
SPEAKER_03 (15:19):
Now I'm salivating crumbs, Chick-fil-A crumbs, yum.
SPEAKER_02 (15:25):
Oops.
You're such a pig.
You didn't you were watching meeat, you didn't see them fall.
SPEAKER_03 (15:34):
It's crumbs, and I'm in Tennessee.
I'm in Tennessee.
SPEAKER_04 (15:41):
Oh, I didn't write the date.
Um, the angel of death, the Nazidoctor, died in 1979.
I didn't write the date, notsoon enough.
I agree.
He died, so he they actuallydidn't find out he died until
1985 when they did autopsybecause they were searching for
him, and he was down in Brazilwith another super cool Nazi,
and they were hiding out, andthen they I don't remember who
(16:05):
they were, but they went down.
SPEAKER_03 (16:07):
Why is there so much Nazi stuff in this episode?
Swastikas and Nazis.
SPEAKER_04 (16:13):
Well, this guy died.
The angel of death died.
He okay, so the angel of death,um, Joseph Menetili.
I don't care if I mispronouncedthat.
He was horrible.
He would he supervised aselection of the Auschwitz
prisoners by shouting eitherleft or right, determining if
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they would go to labor or toimmediate extermination.
It was him.
He also um ordered others toinject thousands of inmates with
everything from gas tochloroform to study the chemical
effects.
And he plucked out the eyes ofcorpses to study eye
(16:57):
pigmentation.
Yeah, he's he's a horrible,horrible man.
He didn't get arrested after thewar because he was working as a
farm stableman in Bavaria, andthen he moved to South America.
He was a citizen of Paraguay,and then he moved to Brazil
where he met up with that otherNazi dude.
SPEAKER_03 (17:16):
Wait, so did he get arrested because they didn't
know where he was, or becausehe's such a good guy being a
farmer now?
SPEAKER_04 (17:24):
I think because he they must not have known where
he was because he was working asa farmhand or whatever.
So they heard um forensicexaminers, that's that's who was
looking for him.
They heard a guy died um in1985.
They heard a guy died in 1979from a stroke, and they used the
dental records to find out thatit was him that died.
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Later, Ma.
Never come back again.
This I found interesting, MajorLeague Baseball.
I do love my sports, March 9th,um 1979.
26 Major League Baseball teamswere ordered to let females into
their locker rooms because Ms.
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Melissa Ludke filed lawsuitagainst the Major League
Baseball for refusing access tothe clubhouses at Yankee Stadium
during the World Series.
SPEAKER_03 (18:20):
Wait, so then women got to go in the locker rooms
for the interviews, yes.
Reporters.
Oh, reporters.
Okay, did I not say that part?
I was like, I I don't know.
Okay.
SPEAKER_04 (18:34):
What is also cool is the judge who presided over the
lawsuit was Constance BakerMotley.
She was the first black womanappointed as a federal judge.
Very cool, very, very cool.
So, yes, it sounds like womenget more equal rights.
However, in 1990, there was afemale, what's her name?
(18:56):
Lisa Olson, said that.
Can I ask a question?
SPEAKER_03 (18:59):
Sure.
Um, so are men allowed inwomen's locker rooms?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I I'm very all for equal rights,but I feel like it's not equal
if like women can go into themen's locker rooms, but the men
can't go into women's.
But I don't think that's women'ssports that should happen.
SPEAKER_04 (19:23):
I don't know if women's sports are um doing
locker room interviews.
Interviews, yeah.
Okay.
So okay, thanks.
Anytime.
So 1990, Lisa Olsen said that umNew England Patriot players
exposed themselves to her whenshe was trying to work.
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And after she said that, therewas dozens of other reports.
Um yeah, and then we also knowabout pictures of things getting
sent to reporters and as I'mwearing my green bay jacket.
SPEAKER_03 (20:02):
Yeah, he was a jet then, it's fine.
That's right.
Doesn't happen when you're apacker.
Uh I mean, did anyone think thatthat wasn't going to happen?
I mean, I imagine honestly, thatin the locker rooms the dudes
are just walking around nakedanyway.
SPEAKER_04 (20:19):
I don't I've never been in a men's locker room.
I have no idea.
SPEAKER_03 (20:23):
Well, I know.
I'm I have I've been in an emptymen's locker room.
So I just I just imagine that'sI mean, they're always naked.
SPEAKER_02 (20:35):
Any chance a guy can be naked, I feel like they take
it.
SPEAKER_03 (20:40):
So and then they do like the the circle dance.
No, I was not gonna go there,but okay.
SPEAKER_04 (20:51):
Okay, this part I put in for you because I thought
it was super cute.
Um, and on April 7th, 1979, ayear after his brother Bob
pitched a no-hitter, HoustonAstros pitcher Ken Forsch talked
um did his first no-hitter.
So his his brother did it andthen he did it.
Yeah, isn't that cute?
(21:12):
Yes.
SPEAKER_03 (21:13):
Okay, here's I'm so sorry.
No, it's he's trying to do thethe little circle dance you were
talking about, and he's hurtinghimself doing that.
SPEAKER_04 (21:23):
And he can barely walk right now, it's all stiff.
This is something I also foundinteresting.
So in March of 1979, there is uhan art piece called the Dinner
Party.
Are you aware of this?
SPEAKER_03 (21:38):
I am not.
I was only two.
SPEAKER_04 (21:42):
This goes along with my feminist theme, I guess.
Uh, it was opened at the SanFrancisco Museum of Modern Art.
Oh, I didn't put her name.
SPEAKER_03 (21:52):
I didn't put the artist's name.
Oh, I'm horrible.
Oops.
So it's probably in theresomewhere, and you'll find it in
like five minutes.
Judy Chicago's.
I knew it was in there.
SPEAKER_02 (22:05):
That's a crazy.
SPEAKER_03 (22:06):
This is typical of Jessica.
Oh, I didn't put it in there.
Oh, here it is.
SPEAKER_04 (22:11):
It didn't seem like that was her last name.
Chicago, that's Judy Chicago'sart.
Yeah, okay.
So the dinner party, it is uh 39ceremonial plaque settings for
real and mythological women fromhistory, which is super cool.
The place settings are above amassive triangle-shaped table.
So it had her standing in frontof it, and it was like this, and
(22:32):
then the placemats went likethat.
Yeah, the floor of it uh wasinscribed with the names of 998
real and mythical women.
I already said that.
And um overall, the artworkhonors 1000 1038 women from
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Egyptian Queen Hassespa andEleanor of Aquitaine, Emily
Dickinson, Susan B.
Anthony.
Each place has uh an embroideredrunner, so she actually put um
it's not vulgar, but likewomen's body parts on it.
Like I think I think it'svaginas.
(23:18):
I think she put vaginas on it.
SPEAKER_03 (23:22):
It was everybody likes vaginas, and all men are
naked.
Oh dear.
We're going to have to mark thisepisode as explicit.
SPEAKER_04 (23:37):
So a lot of people, especially in '79, they thought
it was vulgar and theythreatened to take ever.
SPEAKER_03 (23:44):
The hippies were all naked all the time.
SPEAKER_02 (23:47):
Everybody's naked.
SPEAKER_04 (23:56):
In Inchrid's world, everyone is.
SPEAKER_02 (24:00):
I mean, I w I was too.
I probably was also naked.
SPEAKER_04 (24:03):
You probably were.
Uh so there's a lot of criticismover it uh because of all uh the
genitalia being that was vulgar.
However, there are twoexceptions to the non-vulgaress
going on.
Saca Joeia uh did not have anyvulgarity, vulgar imagery.
(24:26):
It's not vulgar, did not haveany vaginas, and then um
Sojourner Truth also did nothave any genitalia if you'd like
to if you would like to see it,it's at the Brooklyn Museum in
New York City.
Oh, on March 23rd, on March23rd, I turned to 2007.
(24:54):
They moved it to the they movedit to the Brooklyn Museum.
Oh you gonna say I was not too.
SPEAKER_03 (25:03):
No, you were not.
Twenty-two nineteenninety-seven?
No, nineteen ninety-seven?
SPEAKER_04 (25:10):
Stop saying ninety-seven.
SPEAKER_03 (25:14):
Two thousand and seven.
Oh two thousand and seven.
I was not twenty-two.
Where did you get that numberfrom?
SPEAKER_02 (25:25):
You weren't twenty-two either.
It's like you don't even knowme.
It's like I don't even knowmath.
SPEAKER_04 (25:44):
Oh goodness.
Did you have a question?
Probably, but now it's gone.
Okay.
Uh the three mile, the threemile island nuclear tragedy also
happened in 1977.
The only people that wereexposed to the radiation was the
(26:06):
workers, like, and it causedmass panic because it was down
the river or up the river, downthe river.
It was down by the river.
It was by Hattiesburg.
Was it Hattiesburg?
I might be making stuff up.
That's what we do.
Harrisburg.
It was near Harrisburg,Pennsylvania, and a hundred
(26:27):
thousand people fled.
But so I didn't know this.
Jimmy Carter, he was a trainednuclear engineer.
That dude.
I know.
So he went to the facility to gocheck it out, and he's like, No,
I think it's okay.
And there's a hydrogen bubblethat they thought would pop, and
they realized it's not gonnapop, and it slowly went down.
(26:49):
Yeah.
So he was right.
He was okay, yeah.
So the quote, May the fourth bewith you.
I was so excited to hear thisstarted in 1979.
Margaret Thatcher, it started inBritain, and I don't think it
was related to Star Wars, but itwas like then a first time it
was used.
Well, it should be.
(27:10):
Well, I think it was eventuallylike the next time I I saw
reference to Star Wars in likethe 86, the 86s.
I almost said that in 86.
That's a team, but it is 76ers.
SPEAKER_02 (27:23):
Oh whoops.
I love how you jumped right inand agreed with me, too.
It took me a second.
No, no, no.
Yeah, the 86ers play out atHattiesburg in Pennsylvania.
When they were 22 years old.
(27:45):
What's happening?
Oh gosh.
SPEAKER_04 (27:49):
And Margaret Thatcher, she was the leader of
the Conservative Party inBritain.
She becomes Britain's firstfemale prime minister on May
4th, 1979.
SPEAKER_03 (28:00):
So the Conservative Party.
Margaret Thatcher on a cold day.
Margaret Thatcher on a cold orMargaret Thatcher naked on a
cold day.
She's naked too.
SPEAKER_04 (28:11):
I'm like, that is your theme of this episode.
But what was super cute is thatthe conservatives purchased a
half-page advertisement of theLondon Evening News, and it
said, Dear Maggie, may thefourth be with you, you're party
workers.
So isn't that cute?
(28:31):
Why is he so upset with thisepisode?
Because he can he can't hearvery well, but when I laugh, he
can hear that.
Does he think you're beingattacked?
No.
SPEAKER_03 (28:44):
Is he laughing with you?
SPEAKER_04 (28:46):
No, he just hears a noise.
And I think because he doesn'treally hear noises often that he
thinks he should bark at it.
SPEAKER_03 (28:54):
Okay.
SPEAKER_04 (28:56):
The milk carton, the kid milk cartons, the kids on
milk cartons.
SPEAKER_03 (29:01):
What is that again?
Is that exactly how he wrote itdown?
unknown (29:06):
No.
SPEAKER_02 (29:09):
What did you actually write down?
I wrote milk carton.
My hands are sweating.
At least it's not your feet thistime.
Why are they sweating?
(29:32):
Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_00 (29:36):
Hey, he can't even hear me.
SPEAKER_04 (29:38):
He can't hear me to tell him to stop.
I'm sorry.
Oh, wait, May 25th, 1979.
The the little boy that startedthe Mel Carton eating pats, um,
he disappeared on May 25th.
And his killer was eventuallyfound in 2017.
But his he was the first noncelebrity child that got
(29:58):
national awareness.
And then we have children onmilk cartons now.
SPEAKER_03 (30:03):
I didn't think they cared about us missing until in
the late 80s.
Well, it's funny that you saythat.
SPEAKER_04 (30:13):
Because it was in the early 80s that his face went
on the milk cartons.
So he disappeared in 79.
I'm sorry.
And uh President Reagan declaredMay 25th, the day that he
disappeared, National MissingChildren's Day in 1983.
And then his disappearance alsoplayed a role in the founding of
(30:34):
the National Center for Missingand Exploited Children.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (30:43):
What are you doing?
SPEAKER_04 (30:45):
I swatted his tail.
All right, I'm almost done.
I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_03 (30:48):
I thought we were only in May.
SPEAKER_04 (30:52):
Yeah.
Yeah, we're in June now.
June 7th, 1979.
Juneteenth is declared a holidaythe state holiday in Texas.
SPEAKER_03 (31:06):
Back in 79.
SPEAKER_04 (31:08):
Okay.
Yeah.
John Wayne died on June 11th,1979.
Oh, grandma loved him.
Do you know his original namewas Marion Morrison?
He was I did not how did he getJohn Wayne?
Oh oops, nope.
SPEAKER_02 (31:25):
I don't so that somebody else.
SPEAKER_04 (31:30):
No, no, I don't know.
I went to scroll in my a Targetpop-up.
It went to Target.
Sorry.
Oh, so he did his first actingjobs.
Um, he was his name was DukeMorrison, though, and it was a
childhood nickname from his petfavorite pet dog, Duke.
SPEAKER_03 (31:51):
Oh, is that why he's called the Duke?
I think so.
Okay.
unknown (31:54):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (31:55):
That makes sense.
I got really excited about thisone.
SPEAKER_02 (31:59):
You did.
I thought you were joking.
No.
SPEAKER_04 (32:02):
July 1st, 1979, the start of The Walkman was
created.
So, like all the parts existed,but like they had they used them
to record.
Reporters use reporters usedthem to record stuff instead of
just playback.
So one of the Sony guys had tofly overseas all the time, and
he wanted to listen to music.
So he asked them to create, heasked his people to create
(32:23):
something.
So it was like this big box, itwas huge.
It was not what we know theWalkman as.
And he loved it.
The batteries died.
SPEAKER_03 (32:31):
People actually may not know what the Walkman is
now.
SPEAKER_04 (32:35):
Oh, oh.
So a Walkman, um, you put in atape cassette, and you listen to
whatever is on the cassette.
Cassette tape.
Cassette tape.
Say set tape cassette.
And a a cassette tape, if youdon't know what that is, Google
(32:57):
it.
There we go.
So it was it was giant and thenthey made it smaller.
And he thought it was just gonnabe amazing.
So they made um they made awhole bunch of them, and they
were selling them.
This was in Japan, like it firstgot sold in Japan, and they were
selling it for 30,000 yen, whichwas about$150 in 1979.
(33:20):
Yes, for a Walkman.
That's a lot of money.
Exactly.
Uh so they didn't, they weren'tthey only sold 3,000 um in like
the first month or the by July.
And so they gave they went onthe streets and they gave people
a chance to listen to theWalkman on the streets, and
(33:43):
that's what started the oh mygosh, this is so cool.
SPEAKER_03 (33:46):
And that's history.
And just think of that crappyquality music that was playing
too, but it was probably justawesome.
I mean, I thought it was awesomewhen I had a Walkman.
SPEAKER_04 (33:58):
Yes, absolutely.
It was so cool.
I had a Walkman, I think stillin high school.
I remember listening to mixedtapes on a bus somewhere.
SPEAKER_03 (34:09):
I made a mixed tape for my college roommates.
SPEAKER_04 (34:15):
I did you ever listen to Booty Mix 96?
Boom, I got your boy.
Okay, so all right, sorry.
Okay.
Uh the death of Disco alsohappened on May 2nd, 1979.
I don't know how we went fromJune to May.
It didn't last very long.
So there was a DJ that lost hisdid he lose his job?
(34:38):
He I think Disco overtook it andhe moved to a different radio
station, and he just was not afan of Disco.
So the Detroit Tigers wereplaying the Chicago White Sox
and they decided to have a andthe 86ers stadium.
unknown (34:51):
Of course it was.
SPEAKER_04 (34:54):
So they declared July 12th disco demolition, and
they're just gonna put a bunchof disco records into a uh giant
garbage thing.
You know what they're called?
The giant garbage things.
SPEAKER_03 (35:09):
I didn't know it was a dumpster, a dumpster.
I actually have it written down.
SPEAKER_04 (35:18):
You shouted that into everyone's ears.
I'm sorry.
Okay, so they decided to sellthe tickets for like 98 cents,
and they expected maybe about4,000 people.
They expected 5,000.
Um, but 40,000 people showed up,and the crowds like just went
(35:40):
crazy.
There was people um stormed thefield, they're shimmying up the
the foul line poles, they'retearing up the grass and
lighting vinyl bonfires on thediamond.
And then one of the things theydidn't take into consideration
is when they blew up thedumpster, the shrapnel from the
records, boom, yeah.
(36:00):
So they uh the game wascanceled, it was too dangerous
for it to play, and the DetroitTigers were uh awarded a win by
forfeit, but that was the deathof disco.
SPEAKER_03 (36:14):
That's crazy.
The Bee Gees survived, though.
SPEAKER_04 (36:18):
Of course.
Um, there's also racial tension,of course, in the 70s.
There was a Death of the Klanrally in Greensboro, North
Carolina, where um Is there notRachel Rachel?
Racial tension now?
There's always is.
But these um the Ku Klux Klankilled uh they killed some of
(36:44):
the demonstrators.
Five.
They killed five of thedemonstrators and several were
wounded.
In 1980, the Klan and Nazimembers, six of them, were put
on trial for murder and rioting.
Um they were acquitted on allcharges because they fired on
the demonstrators inself-defense.
(37:07):
Yeah, because the demonstratorswere kicking the cars of the Klu
Klux Klan and Nazi members whenthey tried to drive through
their demonstration.
SPEAKER_03 (37:15):
Yes, so that's cool.
Kicking should be met with guns.
Oh, of course.
Kicking a car, shoot 'em.
Why are Nazis back in thisepisode?
SPEAKER_04 (37:26):
I don't know.
I have two more things, threemore things, technically.
Uh the NBA.
So Daryl Dawkins broke the firstNBA backboard on November 13th
in 1979.
I thought that was kind of cool.
Shattering the glass backboard.
(37:48):
Yeah, that was the first time.
And then I remember hearingabout this.
I think there was a podcast onit, but in December 3rd, 1979,
there was a WHO concert inCincinnati, and it was called
Festival Sleeting, where I thinkit's like almost like first
come, first serve.
And they wouldn't, the concertstarted at eight.
They didn't open the doors.
(38:08):
They opened one, like peoplewere just piling up, and the
police were there.
There was no one from the nosecurity from the arena, and the
police saw what was happening.
They're like, you need to openthese doors.
Like these people are goinginsane.
Like you have to open thesedoors and let them in.
And the venue people are like,No, we're not gonna do it.
I know this story.
Yes.
(38:28):
And so by the time they did,like people rushed and trampled
over others.
Eleven, eleven were um concertgirls were laying on the ground
and they died from asphyxiation.
SPEAKER_03 (38:42):
I remember that story.
Okay.
SPEAKER_04 (38:44):
Uh December 9th, 1979.
Scientists declare smallpox hasbeen eradicated.
Vaccinations work.
What?
December 17th, 1979.
A little half-whitehalf-Filipina girl is born to a
Filipina immigrant and a USsailor.
(39:06):
The end.
And the world will never be thesame.
In a good way.
In a good way.
I'm sorry, that was kind oflong.
There's a lot of interjectionsin there.
Well, and there there wasactually more stuff that I found
interesting from that year, butI'm like, eh.
Okay.
No one else, no one else wantsto know that.
(39:27):
Let's do these.
Are you going to start?
Sure.
Be vulgar.
Be a vulgar piece of art.
I don't know.
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (39:39):
Be with you May the 4th.
SPEAKER_00 (39:43):
Ah.
SPEAKER_03 (39:44):
I'm trying to make it sound-ish.
SPEAKER_04 (39:47):
Not bad.
Okay.
Oh, this one's easy.
Don't be a Nazi.
SPEAKER_03 (39:53):
Don't be naked.
SPEAKER_02 (40:00):
See, it's my laugh.
It is.
SPEAKER_03 (40:02):
No, I think it's naked.
SPEAKER_02 (40:03):
He barks every time we talk about naked.
SPEAKER_00 (40:06):
Maybe it's because I laugh every time you talk about
naked.
SPEAKER_03 (40:09):
He's a little bit of a prude.
You might be.
Perhaps.
Okay.
Well, thank you, Jessica.
For 1979.
1979.
Did I say that?
SPEAKER_04 (40:23):
Yep.
SPEAKER_03 (40:23):
I'm just repeating it for some reason.
SPEAKER_02 (40:29):
And thank everyone for listening.
Hopefully you made it halfwaythrough.
And we'll see you in two weeks.
SPEAKER_01 (40:38):
Bye.
Bye.
If you'd like to reach out to usor submit your situation, please
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We're also on Facebook atAnotherSituation.
SPEAKER_03 (40:59):
Another Situation is produced and edited by point
five annoying.
Music is written and performedby Tim Crow.
We're recording.
Okay.
Hi.
Hi.
How are you?
I'm just fine.
How are you?
My name's Ingrid.
It's so nice to meet you.
SPEAKER_04 (00:11):
My name is Jessica.
SPEAKER_03 (00:13):
Are we talking to the people?
It's nice to meet y'all.
I was actually just talking toyou.
They knew me.
Oh.
You never answer the phone, so Idon't know if you remember who I
am.
Okay.
Well, anyway, welcome to anothersituation.
Yes.
We did it again.
Yes.
I think we're going to have tosay that.
(00:35):
Oh, and oops, I did it again.
We're wearing somethingdifferent.
Do you have COVID still?
I don't.
unknown (00:43):
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (00:44):
I am.
Hey, Mike.
Look at my hoodie.
SPEAKER_03 (00:49):
Oh, because it's we're recording this.
Oh, actually, and I think it'sgetting released still during
Suicide Awareness Month.
Okay.
Topic.
It's nice that we both decidedto dress up.
(01:10):
I didn't even put makeup on.
If you are not watching, both ofus have our greasy hair pulled
up into Jessica's a nice bun.
Mine's a messy bun.
Uh mine is a nice bun.
She's in a hoodie.
Ooh.
That's like a military bun.
SPEAKER_04 (01:29):
No, I would never wear it on the top of my head.
SPEAKER_03 (01:32):
Back here.
Mine's not pretty.
And Jessica's in a hoodie, andI'm in a zip-up hoodie.
We're so dressy.
Okay.
SPEAKER_04 (01:45):
I'm sorry, I had to mute myself.
I was uh burping.
SPEAKER_03 (01:50):
What's the point of muting yourself if you're going
to announce it anyway?
So people don't have to hear theburp?
Oh, that's true.
I just had Chick-fil-A.
I'm starving.
Chick-fil-A breakfast.
Do we get any?
Do we pay royalties or do we getsome money for it?
Well, you probably have to payroyalties for that.
(02:12):
Okay.
You get started.
SPEAKER_04 (02:15):
I'm sorry, my nose is running too.
Good grief.
All right.
Quotes.
May the fourth be with you.
Reach out and touch someone.
America can't do a damn thingagainst us.
And um I just don't likeMondays.
I did this because it's a way tocheer up the day.
(02:37):
Nobody likes Mondays.
SPEAKER_03 (02:39):
I don't like Mondays.
SPEAKER_04 (02:42):
Yeah, but I like the quote, but I don't like the
person that said the quote.
SPEAKER_03 (02:46):
Oh.
Who said that?
SPEAKER_04 (02:48):
You'll find out.
Uh so the reach out and touchsomeone, that was actually ATT's
slogan.
I remember that.
Yeah, it was coined in the year1979.
So really that old?
SPEAKER_03 (03:04):
What do you mean that old?
Well, I mean I re I remember it,and I wouldn't remember it from
1979.
Well, it must have been aroundfor a while.
SPEAKER_04 (03:14):
And the guy that wrote the slogan, he was also
the guy, or he didn't write it,but he produced it, whatever.
Created.
He also did the be all you canbe for the army in 1986.
SPEAKER_03 (03:24):
Oh, okay.
Yeah, isn't that interesting?
Very interesting.
SPEAKER_04 (03:29):
So I'm covering the year 1979.
It is a great year.
It's a great year.
Okay.
I did not do the creative thingthat Ingra did because uh my
memories of 1979 are prettysmall, non-existent, actually.
And so I'm just gonna go on thethings I found interesting that
(03:50):
happened in 1979.
Because it's all about you.
It's all about me.
January, I don't know.
January, you done?
Okay.
January 26, 1979.
The Dukes of Hazards starts.
SPEAKER_03 (04:11):
Oh my gosh, you should have given a warning to
move away from speakers.
Oh my bad.
SPEAKER_04 (04:18):
So um just a good old boy.
Those of you that don't know,they also had a CB radio in the
General Lee, and they were theircalls signs were Lost Sheep One
and Lost Sheep number two.
I didn't know that.
That's why I included it.
I don't remember that part atall.
However, uh Smoky and the Banditand the Dukes the Hazard helped
(04:39):
promote the CB craze that sweptAmerica um from the 70s to the
80s.
SPEAKER_03 (04:45):
Do you remember?
So we had a Czech Vince.
Yes.
And oh gosh, you guys, we had afull-size van when we were kids
because there's two of us.
Why was there a full did theyhave many vans back then?
SPEAKER_04 (04:59):
I don't think so.
It was for sporting events.
That's what they said.
Because because we were sobecause I was so athletic.
And there was okay, so there's aC V and a little TV in this
giant van.
And the truckers used to talk tous.
I remember on the way to theroller rank, there was a trucker
(05:20):
that pretended he he was likeshooting alien noises over the
CB.
He's like, be careful, they'reattacking you.
And like it was hilarious.
It was me and my friends were soentertained by it.
SPEAKER_03 (05:31):
Is that a real memory?
SPEAKER_04 (05:34):
Yes.
SPEAKER_03 (05:34):
I don't know that I don't remember that.
SPEAKER_04 (05:36):
I probably wasn't with you.
You weren't with it.
Was dad and me and my friends onthe way to the roller ring.
SPEAKER_03 (05:42):
Are you sure it wasn't dad doing it somehow?
SPEAKER_04 (05:45):
Yes, because we were talking to the guy on the CB and
we watched Rudolph on the littleTV on the way there, too.
SPEAKER_03 (05:51):
Oh, I had the worst reception though.
Remember?
Well, how what did we watch?
Like, how did we watch stuff?
I think it had an antenna.
Oh, so we got to watch like twoseconds of anything.
SPEAKER_04 (06:05):
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
So that was on January 26th.
On January 29th, all right.
This is where I got the quotefrom the Monday quote.
Brenda Spencer.
I'm so sorry.
I don't know why I includedthis.
Brenda Spencer kills two men andwounds nine children as they
enter the Grover ClevelandElementary School in San Diego.
(06:26):
She was 16 years old and herhouse was across the street from
the school, and she just shotpeople.
And when they asked why she didit, allegedly she said, I just
don't like Mondays.
I did this because it's a way tocheer up the day.
Nobody likes Mondays.
And they actually made a song,The Boomtown Rats.
(06:46):
I'm not aware of them.
Um, they created a song, I don'tlike Mondays.
SPEAKER_03 (06:51):
I never knew that there was school shootings back
then.
SPEAKER_04 (06:57):
Uh same.
That's actually why I includedit.
I didn't know it either.
SPEAKER_03 (07:00):
Well, now I'm curious when the first one ever
was.
SPEAKER_04 (07:04):
She was 16, a 16-year-old.
And I mean, she had a history ofum, I think substance use and
mental health, which doesn't noteveryone that has mental health
issues and substance use issuesdoes that.
So obviously there's more goingon, but yeah.
All right, February 1st, 1979,the Isla Ayatollah returned to
(07:28):
Iran after 15 years of exile.
So I I had to do a littleresearch because the only reason
I know the Ayatollah is from thesong.
We didn't light the fire.
unknown (07:39):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (07:40):
I was just about to sing that that verse.
SPEAKER_04 (07:45):
And I I mean this history happened when before I
was even born, but I should Iknow details, like little bits
of it, just enough to not knowwhat I'm talking about.
So I alright.
So I uh looked into this, andthis is what caused that Iranian
hostage crisis, also in 1979.
Yeah, mind blown.
(08:06):
Okay.
The so he returns, Ayatollah umKomini, I think is his last
name, returns after exile 15years.
The Shah was in charge, and himand his family fled two weeks
prior to February 1st.
And the Iranian revolutionarieswanted to create a
fundamentalist exam is Islamicgovernment.
(08:30):
Under the it's a tough word.
That's okay.
Under the Ayatollah.
So they were super excited thathe came back.
So when he came back, um, he wasrunning things.
He was actually not a very goodperson.
I'm gonna talk about some of thestuff that he did in a second.
But so on November 4th, 1979, sohe came back in February.
(08:52):
This is what, nine months later,on the 15th anniversary of his
exile, students of therevolution stormed the U.S.
Ember embassy in Tehran and tookthe staff hostage.
Um, they uh they took 90hostages.
Uh they were enraged that theShah who had escaped, um, who
(09:14):
didn't want the fundamentalistexamic.
SPEAKER_03 (09:18):
Oh, there's that word again.
It's making my mouth water.
SPEAKER_04 (09:22):
Why?
I don't know.
SPEAKER_03 (09:25):
Islamic.
SPEAKER_04 (09:26):
It's not butter.
Okay.
Oh, I upset Reggie.
You did.
He doesn't like it that you'remocking me.
SPEAKER_03 (09:37):
He's salivating too.
SPEAKER_04 (09:39):
He probably is.
Okay, so they were mad that theShah was receiving medical care
in the US.
And so this was why they wereretaliating.
Okay, I lost my spot.
Um, they threatened to murderthe hostages um if anyone
attempted a rescue of thehostages in the embassy.
(10:02):
They released all female andminority Americans.
And no, I think they justreleased all female and
minorities.
Um, and then they said that theremaining 52 were left at the
mercy of the Ayatollah for thenext 14 months.
(10:25):
And they determined that umAyotola wanted the Shah to
return to Iran.
Jim President Jimmy Carter wasunable to resolve the crisis,
and this is in the 90s, I'msorry, or 80s, April 24th, 1980,
he ordered a rescue mission inwhich eight U.S.
military personnel were killedand no hostages were rescued.
(10:47):
Three months later, the Shahdied of cancer in Egypt, but the
crisis still continued.
And then in November 1980, um,is when Carter lost the election
to President Reagan.
And President Reagan, the day ofhis inauguration, he was able to
um work out a deal.
And the United States freed$3billion in frozen Iranian assets
(11:11):
and promised$5 billion more infinancial aid.
And then after that, thehostages, the same day after he
was sworn in, the hostages wereflown out of Iran and were sent
home.
444 days.
Okay, so to tell you more aboutwhat the Ayatollah did in
December of 79, the Iranianconstitution was approved.
(11:35):
Uh, he was their political andreligious leader for life, the
Ayatollah was.
And under his rule, Iranianwomen were denied equal rights
and required to wear a veil.
Western culture was banned, andtraditional Islamic law, I got
it that time.
And it's often brutal, brutalpunishments were reinstated.
SPEAKER_03 (11:56):
And listen, you probably don't know the answer
to this.
But what was it before that?
Like, did women not have tocover themselves?
SPEAKER_04 (12:03):
They didn't have to, they had equal, not well, 70s
equal rights, and no, did nothave to wear a veil.
SPEAKER_03 (12:11):
Okay.
SPEAKER_04 (12:11):
I'm I'm making that assumption.
SPEAKER_03 (12:13):
Okay.
I mean, that's what I wouldassume as well.
SPEAKER_04 (12:16):
Yeah.
So the Ayatollah actually diedon June 3rd, 89.
Um, two million mournersattended his funeral.
Uh gradually, democracy cameback to Iran in the 1990s, and
there was a free electionin '97.
I don't know the status of Iranright now, though.
So okay, moving on.
(12:38):
Okay, that was exciting.
Right.
So I knew there was a theIranian hostage crisis.
I always, I think I always mixedthat up with what happened at
the Olympics when they wassomething they like held
hostages, Olympians, right?
SPEAKER_03 (12:57):
Well, that was a lot later though, wasn't it?
SPEAKER_04 (12:59):
Yeah, but I always confused the two.
But so now I have it, I know.
Iranian hostage crisis.
SPEAKER_03 (13:06):
I don't think I confused the two.
I just never, I don't think Iever gave it very much thought.
I just knew there was a thing,and I never tried to place it in
my mind in history.
SPEAKER_04 (13:16):
Yeah.
Okay, so this part, um, do youknow who the sex pistols are?
SPEAKER_03 (13:22):
Duh.
SPEAKER_04 (13:24):
Okay.
Sid Vicious on February 2nd,1979, actually died of an
overdose.
So the thing about Sid Vicious,he had the look of the punk
rocker, but he couldn't reallyperform.
So there were times that theywould unplug his equipment so
they couldn't tell that hewasn't playing.
(13:44):
Because, but they just wantedhis look so bad.
Like he said that he used towalk around London with a
swastika on his chest, a padlockkeychain around his neck, and a
gigantic chip on his shoulder.
SPEAKER_03 (13:56):
A swastika, really?
SPEAKER_04 (13:58):
Yeah.
I don't remember that.
I don't remember that either.
So uh Sid met Nancy Spongeonwhen they were on a tour and
they both fell madly in love.
They also started a really badheroin addiction.
And Nancy was stabbed in 78 intheir hotel room.
Yes, I didn't know any of this.
(14:20):
Sid was arrested and laterreleased on bail, but then he
went back to jail because hebeat some man with a beer
bottle.
So, yes.
So he made bail.
Um, oh, he spent two weeks atseven weeks at Rikers, and he
made bail on February 1st, 1979.
(14:40):
He went to a party that nightand overdosed on heroin.
The medical examiner estimatedthat he was using 80% pure grade
heroin.
So the day he got out, the dayhe got out of Rikers, he went to
a party.
SPEAKER_03 (14:56):
See, prison does such a good job with
rehabilitating people andchanging their lives.
SPEAKER_04 (15:02):
Yes, yes.
SPEAKER_03 (15:03):
That's what we should do for everybody.
SPEAKER_04 (15:06):
And it's Rikers.
Like I I just hear bad stuffabout Rikers.
So on oops, there's crumbs on mylap.
SPEAKER_03 (15:19):
Now I'm salivating crumbs, Chick-fil-A crumbs, yum.
SPEAKER_02 (15:25):
Oops.
You're such a pig.
You didn't you were watching meeat, you didn't see them fall.
SPEAKER_03 (15:34):
It's crumbs, and I'm in Tennessee.
I'm in Tennessee.
SPEAKER_04 (15:41):
Oh, I didn't write the date.
Um, the angel of death, the Nazidoctor, died in 1979.
I didn't write the date, notsoon enough.
I agree.
He died, so he they actuallydidn't find out he died until
1985 when they did autopsybecause they were searching for
him, and he was down in Brazilwith another super cool Nazi,
and they were hiding out, andthen they I don't remember who
(16:05):
they were, but they went down.
SPEAKER_03 (16:07):
Why is there so much Nazi stuff in this episode?
Swastikas and Nazis.
SPEAKER_04 (16:13):
Well, this guy died.
The angel of death died.
He okay, so the angel of death,um, Joseph Menetili.
I don't care if I mispronouncedthat.
He was horrible.
He would he supervised aselection of the Auschwitz
prisoners by shouting eitherleft or right, determining if
(16:35):
they would go to labor or toimmediate extermination.
It was him.
He also um ordered others toinject thousands of inmates with
everything from gas tochloroform to study the chemical
effects.
And he plucked out the eyes ofcorpses to study eye
(16:57):
pigmentation.
Yeah, he's he's a horrible,horrible man.
He didn't get arrested after thewar because he was working as a
farm stableman in Bavaria, andthen he moved to South America.
He was a citizen of Paraguay,and then he moved to Brazil
where he met up with that otherNazi dude.
SPEAKER_03 (17:16):
Wait, so did he get arrested because they didn't
know where he was, or becausehe's such a good guy being a
farmer now?
SPEAKER_04 (17:24):
I think because he they must not have known where
he was because he was working asa farmhand or whatever.
So they heard um forensicexaminers, that's that's who was
looking for him.
They heard a guy died um in1985.
They heard a guy died in 1979from a stroke, and they used the
dental records to find out thatit was him that died.
(17:47):
Later, Ma.
Never come back again.
This I found interesting, MajorLeague Baseball.
I do love my sports, March 9th,um 1979.
26 Major League Baseball teamswere ordered to let females into
their locker rooms because Ms.
(18:09):
Melissa Ludke filed lawsuitagainst the Major League
Baseball for refusing access tothe clubhouses at Yankee Stadium
during the World Series.
SPEAKER_03 (18:20):
Wait, so then women got to go in the locker rooms
for the interviews, yes.
Reporters.
Oh, reporters.
Okay, did I not say that part?
I was like, I I don't know.
Okay.
SPEAKER_04 (18:34):
What is also cool is the judge who presided over the
lawsuit was Constance BakerMotley.
She was the first black womanappointed as a federal judge.
Very cool, very, very cool.
So, yes, it sounds like womenget more equal rights.
However, in 1990, there was afemale, what's her name?
(18:56):
Lisa Olson, said that.
Can I ask a question?
SPEAKER_03 (18:59):
Sure.
Um, so are men allowed inwomen's locker rooms?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I I'm very all for equal rights,but I feel like it's not equal
if like women can go into themen's locker rooms, but the men
can't go into women's.
But I don't think that's women'ssports that should happen.
SPEAKER_04 (19:23):
I don't know if women's sports are um doing
locker room interviews.
Interviews, yeah.
Okay.
So okay, thanks.
Anytime.
So 1990, Lisa Olsen said that umNew England Patriot players
exposed themselves to her whenshe was trying to work.
(19:44):
And after she said that, therewas dozens of other reports.
Um yeah, and then we also knowabout pictures of things getting
sent to reporters and as I'mwearing my green bay jacket.
SPEAKER_03 (20:02):
Yeah, he was a jet then, it's fine.
That's right.
Doesn't happen when you're apacker.
Uh I mean, did anyone think thatthat wasn't going to happen?
I mean, I imagine honestly, thatin the locker rooms the dudes
are just walking around nakedanyway.
SPEAKER_04 (20:19):
I don't I've never been in a men's locker room.
I have no idea.
SPEAKER_03 (20:23):
Well, I know.
I'm I have I've been in an emptymen's locker room.
So I just I just imagine that'sI mean, they're always naked.
SPEAKER_02 (20:35):
Any chance a guy can be naked, I feel like they take
it.
SPEAKER_03 (20:40):
So and then they do like the the circle dance.
No, I was not gonna go there,but okay.
SPEAKER_04 (20:51):
Okay, this part I put in for you because I thought
it was super cute.
Um, and on April 7th, 1979, ayear after his brother Bob
pitched a no-hitter, HoustonAstros pitcher Ken Forsch talked
um did his first no-hitter.
So his his brother did it andthen he did it.
Yeah, isn't that cute?
(21:12):
Yes.
SPEAKER_03 (21:13):
Okay, here's I'm so sorry.
No, it's he's trying to do thethe little circle dance you were
talking about, and he's hurtinghimself doing that.
SPEAKER_04 (21:23):
And he can barely walk right now, it's all stiff.
This is something I also foundinteresting.
So in March of 1979, there is uhan art piece called the Dinner
Party.
Are you aware of this?
SPEAKER_03 (21:38):
I am not.
I was only two.
SPEAKER_04 (21:42):
This goes along with my feminist theme, I guess.
Uh, it was opened at the SanFrancisco Museum of Modern Art.
Oh, I didn't put her name.
SPEAKER_03 (21:52):
I didn't put the artist's name.
Oh, I'm horrible.
Oops.
So it's probably in theresomewhere, and you'll find it in
like five minutes.
Judy Chicago's.
I knew it was in there.
SPEAKER_02 (22:05):
That's a crazy.
SPEAKER_03 (22:06):
This is typical of Jessica.
Oh, I didn't put it in there.
Oh, here it is.
SPEAKER_04 (22:11):
It didn't seem like that was her last name.
Chicago, that's Judy Chicago'sart.
Yeah, okay.
So the dinner party, it is uh 39ceremonial plaque settings for
real and mythological women fromhistory, which is super cool.
The place settings are above amassive triangle-shaped table.
So it had her standing in frontof it, and it was like this, and
(22:32):
then the placemats went likethat.
Yeah, the floor of it uh wasinscribed with the names of 998
real and mythical women.
I already said that.
And um overall, the artworkhonors 1000 1038 women from
(22:55):
Egyptian Queen Hassespa andEleanor of Aquitaine, Emily
Dickinson, Susan B.
Anthony.
Each place has uh an embroideredrunner, so she actually put um
it's not vulgar, but likewomen's body parts on it.
Like I think I think it'svaginas.
(23:18):
I think she put vaginas on it.
SPEAKER_03 (23:22):
It was everybody likes vaginas, and all men are
naked.
Oh dear.
We're going to have to mark thisepisode as explicit.
SPEAKER_04 (23:37):
So a lot of people, especially in '79, they thought
it was vulgar and theythreatened to take ever.
SPEAKER_03 (23:44):
The hippies were all naked all the time.
SPEAKER_02 (23:47):
Everybody's naked.
SPEAKER_04 (23:56):
In Inchrid's world, everyone is.
SPEAKER_02 (24:00):
I mean, I w I was too.
I probably was also naked.
SPEAKER_04 (24:03):
You probably were.
Uh so there's a lot of criticismover it uh because of all uh the
genitalia being that was vulgar.
However, there are twoexceptions to the non-vulgaress
going on.
Saca Joeia uh did not have anyvulgarity, vulgar imagery.
(24:26):
It's not vulgar, did not haveany vaginas, and then um
Sojourner Truth also did nothave any genitalia if you'd like
to if you would like to see it,it's at the Brooklyn Museum in
New York City.
Oh, on March 23rd, on March23rd, I turned to 2007.
(24:54):
They moved it to the they movedit to the Brooklyn Museum.
Oh you gonna say I was not too.
SPEAKER_03 (25:03):
No, you were not.
Twenty-two nineteenninety-seven?
No, nineteen ninety-seven?
SPEAKER_04 (25:10):
Stop saying ninety-seven.
SPEAKER_03 (25:14):
Two thousand and seven.
Oh two thousand and seven.
I was not twenty-two.
Where did you get that numberfrom?
SPEAKER_02 (25:25):
You weren't twenty-two either.
It's like you don't even knowme.
It's like I don't even knowmath.
SPEAKER_04 (25:44):
Oh goodness.
Did you have a question?
Probably, but now it's gone.
Okay.
Uh the three mile, the threemile island nuclear tragedy also
happened in 1977.
The only people that wereexposed to the radiation was the
(26:06):
workers, like, and it causedmass panic because it was down
the river or up the river, downthe river.
It was down by the river.
It was by Hattiesburg.
Was it Hattiesburg?
I might be making stuff up.
That's what we do.
Harrisburg.
It was near Harrisburg,Pennsylvania, and a hundred
(26:27):
thousand people fled.
But so I didn't know this.
Jimmy Carter, he was a trainednuclear engineer.
That dude.
I know.
So he went to the facility to gocheck it out, and he's like, No,
I think it's okay.
And there's a hydrogen bubblethat they thought would pop, and
they realized it's not gonnapop, and it slowly went down.
(26:49):
Yeah.
So he was right.
He was okay, yeah.
So the quote, May the fourth bewith you.
I was so excited to hear thisstarted in 1979.
Margaret Thatcher, it started inBritain, and I don't think it
was related to Star Wars, but itwas like then a first time it
was used.
Well, it should be.
(27:10):
Well, I think it was eventuallylike the next time I I saw
reference to Star Wars in likethe 86, the 86s.
I almost said that in 86.
That's a team, but it is 76ers.
SPEAKER_02 (27:23):
Oh whoops.
I love how you jumped right inand agreed with me, too.
It took me a second.
No, no, no.
Yeah, the 86ers play out atHattiesburg in Pennsylvania.
When they were 22 years old.
(27:45):
What's happening?
Oh gosh.
SPEAKER_04 (27:49):
And Margaret Thatcher, she was the leader of
the Conservative Party inBritain.
She becomes Britain's firstfemale prime minister on May
4th, 1979.
SPEAKER_03 (28:00):
So the Conservative Party.
Margaret Thatcher on a cold day.
Margaret Thatcher on a cold orMargaret Thatcher naked on a
cold day.
She's naked too.
SPEAKER_04 (28:11):
I'm like, that is your theme of this episode.
But what was super cute is thatthe conservatives purchased a
half-page advertisement of theLondon Evening News, and it
said, Dear Maggie, may thefourth be with you, you're party
workers.
So isn't that cute?
(28:31):
Why is he so upset with thisepisode?
Because he can he can't hearvery well, but when I laugh, he
can hear that.
Does he think you're beingattacked?
No.
SPEAKER_03 (28:44):
Is he laughing with you?
SPEAKER_04 (28:46):
No, he just hears a noise.
And I think because he doesn'treally hear noises often that he
thinks he should bark at it.
SPEAKER_03 (28:54):
Okay.
SPEAKER_04 (28:56):
The milk carton, the kid milk cartons, the kids on
milk cartons.
SPEAKER_03 (29:01):
What is that again?
Is that exactly how he wrote itdown?
unknown (29:06):
No.
SPEAKER_02 (29:09):
What did you actually write down?
I wrote milk carton.
My hands are sweating.
At least it's not your feet thistime.
Why are they sweating?
(29:32):
Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_00 (29:36):
Hey, he can't even hear me.
SPEAKER_04 (29:38):
He can't hear me to tell him to stop.
I'm sorry.
Oh, wait, May 25th, 1979.
The the little boy that startedthe Mel Carton eating pats, um,
he disappeared on May 25th.
And his killer was eventuallyfound in 2017.
But his he was the first noncelebrity child that got
(29:58):
national awareness.
And then we have children onmilk cartons now.
SPEAKER_03 (30:03):
I didn't think they cared about us missing until in
the late 80s.
Well, it's funny that you saythat.
SPEAKER_04 (30:13):
Because it was in the early 80s that his face went
on the milk cartons.
So he disappeared in 79.
I'm sorry.
And uh President Reagan declaredMay 25th, the day that he
disappeared, National MissingChildren's Day in 1983.
And then his disappearance alsoplayed a role in the founding of
(30:34):
the National Center for Missingand Exploited Children.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (30:43):
What are you doing?
SPEAKER_04 (30:45):
I swatted his tail.
All right, I'm almost done.
I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_03 (30:48):
I thought we were only in May.
SPEAKER_04 (30:52):
Yeah.
Yeah, we're in June now.
June 7th, 1979.
Juneteenth is declared a holidaythe state holiday in Texas.
SPEAKER_03 (31:06):
Back in 79.
SPEAKER_04 (31:08):
Okay.
Yeah.
John Wayne died on June 11th,1979.
Oh, grandma loved him.
Do you know his original namewas Marion Morrison?
He was I did not how did he getJohn Wayne?
Oh oops, nope.
SPEAKER_02 (31:25):
I don't so that somebody else.
SPEAKER_04 (31:30):
No, no, I don't know.
I went to scroll in my a Targetpop-up.
It went to Target.
Sorry.
Oh, so he did his first actingjobs.
Um, he was his name was DukeMorrison, though, and it was a
childhood nickname from his petfavorite pet dog, Duke.
SPEAKER_03 (31:51):
Oh, is that why he's called the Duke?
I think so.
Okay.
unknown (31:54):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (31:55):
That makes sense.
I got really excited about thisone.
SPEAKER_02 (31:59):
You did.
I thought you were joking.
No.
SPEAKER_04 (32:02):
July 1st, 1979, the start of The Walkman was
created.
So, like all the parts existed,but like they had they used them
to record.
Reporters use reporters usedthem to record stuff instead of
just playback.
So one of the Sony guys had tofly overseas all the time, and
he wanted to listen to music.
So he asked them to create, heasked his people to create
(32:23):
something.
So it was like this big box, itwas huge.
It was not what we know theWalkman as.
And he loved it.
The batteries died.
SPEAKER_03 (32:31):
People actually may not know what the Walkman is
now.
SPEAKER_04 (32:35):
Oh, oh.
So a Walkman, um, you put in atape cassette, and you listen to
whatever is on the cassette.
Cassette tape.
Cassette tape.
Say set tape cassette.
And a a cassette tape, if youdon't know what that is, Google
(32:57):
it.
There we go.
So it was it was giant and thenthey made it smaller.
And he thought it was just gonnabe amazing.
So they made um they made awhole bunch of them, and they
were selling them.
This was in Japan, like it firstgot sold in Japan, and they were
selling it for 30,000 yen, whichwas about$150 in 1979.
(33:20):
Yes, for a Walkman.
That's a lot of money.
Exactly.
Uh so they didn't, they weren'tthey only sold 3,000 um in like
the first month or the by July.
And so they gave they went onthe streets and they gave people
a chance to listen to theWalkman on the streets, and
(33:43):
that's what started the oh mygosh, this is so cool.
SPEAKER_03 (33:46):
And that's history.
And just think of that crappyquality music that was playing
too, but it was probably justawesome.
I mean, I thought it was awesomewhen I had a Walkman.
SPEAKER_04 (33:58):
Yes, absolutely.
It was so cool.
I had a Walkman, I think stillin high school.
I remember listening to mixedtapes on a bus somewhere.
SPEAKER_03 (34:09):
I made a mixed tape for my college roommates.
SPEAKER_04 (34:15):
I did you ever listen to Booty Mix 96?
Boom, I got your boy.
Okay, so all right, sorry.
Okay.
Uh the death of Disco alsohappened on May 2nd, 1979.
I don't know how we went fromJune to May.
It didn't last very long.
So there was a DJ that lost hisdid he lose his job?
(34:38):
He I think Disco overtook it andhe moved to a different radio
station, and he just was not afan of Disco.
So the Detroit Tigers wereplaying the Chicago White Sox
and they decided to have a andthe 86ers stadium.
unknown (34:51):
Of course it was.
SPEAKER_04 (34:54):
So they declared July 12th disco demolition, and
they're just gonna put a bunchof disco records into a uh giant
garbage thing.
You know what they're called?
The giant garbage things.
SPEAKER_03 (35:09):
I didn't know it was a dumpster, a dumpster.
I actually have it written down.
SPEAKER_04 (35:18):
You shouted that into everyone's ears.
I'm sorry.
Okay, so they decided to sellthe tickets for like 98 cents,
and they expected maybe about4,000 people.
They expected 5,000.
Um, but 40,000 people showed up,and the crowds like just went
(35:40):
crazy.
There was people um stormed thefield, they're shimmying up the
the foul line poles, they'retearing up the grass and
lighting vinyl bonfires on thediamond.
And then one of the things theydidn't take into consideration
is when they blew up thedumpster, the shrapnel from the
records, boom, yeah.
(36:00):
So they uh the game wascanceled, it was too dangerous
for it to play, and the DetroitTigers were uh awarded a win by
forfeit, but that was the deathof disco.
SPEAKER_03 (36:14):
That's crazy.
The Bee Gees survived, though.
SPEAKER_04 (36:18):
Of course.
Um, there's also racial tension,of course, in the 70s.
There was a Death of the Klanrally in Greensboro, North
Carolina, where um Is there notRachel Rachel?
Racial tension now?
There's always is.
But these um the Ku Klux Klankilled uh they killed some of
(36:44):
the demonstrators.
Five.
They killed five of thedemonstrators and several were
wounded.
In 1980, the Klan and Nazimembers, six of them, were put
on trial for murder and rioting.
Um they were acquitted on allcharges because they fired on
the demonstrators inself-defense.
(37:07):
Yeah, because the demonstratorswere kicking the cars of the Klu
Klux Klan and Nazi members whenthey tried to drive through
their demonstration.
SPEAKER_03 (37:15):
Yes, so that's cool.
Kicking should be met with guns.
Oh, of course.
Kicking a car, shoot 'em.
Why are Nazis back in thisepisode?
SPEAKER_04 (37:26):
I don't know.
I have two more things, threemore things, technically.
Uh the NBA.
So Daryl Dawkins broke the firstNBA backboard on November 13th
in 1979.
I thought that was kind of cool.
Shattering the glass backboard.
(37:48):
Yeah, that was the first time.
And then I remember hearingabout this.
I think there was a podcast onit, but in December 3rd, 1979,
there was a WHO concert inCincinnati, and it was called
Festival Sleeting, where I thinkit's like almost like first
come, first serve.
And they wouldn't, the concertstarted at eight.
They didn't open the doors.
(38:08):
They opened one, like peoplewere just piling up, and the
police were there.
There was no one from the nosecurity from the arena, and the
police saw what was happening.
They're like, you need to openthese doors.
Like these people are goinginsane.
Like you have to open thesedoors and let them in.
And the venue people are like,No, we're not gonna do it.
I know this story.
Yes.
(38:28):
And so by the time they did,like people rushed and trampled
over others.
Eleven, eleven were um concertgirls were laying on the ground
and they died from asphyxiation.
SPEAKER_03 (38:42):
I remember that story.
Okay.
SPEAKER_04 (38:44):
Uh December 9th, 1979.
Scientists declare smallpox hasbeen eradicated.
Vaccinations work.
What?
December 17th, 1979.
A little half-whitehalf-Filipina girl is born to a
Filipina immigrant and a USsailor.
(39:06):
The end.
And the world will never be thesame.
In a good way.
In a good way.
I'm sorry, that was kind oflong.
There's a lot of interjectionsin there.
Well, and there there wasactually more stuff that I found
interesting from that year, butI'm like, eh.
Okay.
No one else, no one else wantsto know that.
(39:27):
Let's do these.
Are you going to start?
Sure.
Be vulgar.
Be a vulgar piece of art.
I don't know.
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (39:39):
Be with you May the 4th.
SPEAKER_00 (39:43):
Ah.
SPEAKER_03 (39:44):
I'm trying to make it sound-ish.
SPEAKER_04 (39:47):
Not bad.
Okay.
Oh, this one's easy.
Don't be a Nazi.
SPEAKER_03 (39:53):
Don't be naked.
SPEAKER_02 (40:00):
See, it's my laugh.
It is.
SPEAKER_03 (40:02):
No, I think it's naked.
SPEAKER_02 (40:03):
He barks every time we talk about naked.
SPEAKER_00 (40:06):
Maybe it's because I laugh every time you talk about
naked.
SPEAKER_03 (40:09):
He's a little bit of a prude.
You might be.
Perhaps.
Okay.
Well, thank you, Jessica.
For 1979.
1979.
Did I say that?
SPEAKER_04 (40:23):
Yep.
SPEAKER_03 (40:23):
I'm just repeating it for some reason.
SPEAKER_02 (40:29):
And thank everyone for listening.
Hopefully you made it halfwaythrough.
And we'll see you in two weeks.
SPEAKER_01 (40:38):
Bye.
Bye.
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