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October 14, 2025 24 mins

Two sisters time-travel through 1977 using a playful “family journal,” tracing Roots, Star Wars, the NYC blackout, and the Apple II, while weaving in jokes, side tangents, and a tender “late entry” birth story. We close on why personal stories make history stick and a groovy sign-off that invites listeners to share their own.

• Roots as national reckoning on TV
• Super Bowl XI and Carter’s inauguration
• Blizzard of ’77 and community strain
• Queen’s anthems, disco style, punk rise
• Apple II puts computing in the home
• Star Wars as cultural movement and myth
• Pipeline launch and NYC blackout tensions
• Loss of icons: Elvis, Crosby, Chaplin
• The Wow! signal and cosmic wonder
• Atari 2600 and interactive culture at home
• Disco peak with Saturday Night Fever
• Takeaway: history felt through lived moments

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SPEAKER_01 (00:00):
Why hello.

(00:01):
Hi, sister.
Hi, sister.
Guess what, everybody?
Jessica is still eatingChick-fil-A.
Two weeks later.
It might be a little stale.
It's still good.
She still has crumbs on her lap.
I'm Jessica.
I'm Ingrid.

(00:22):
And thanks for joining us onanother situation.
Yes.
Another day.
Another week.
Another week.
Another month.
We're in a new month now.
Another 22 years.
That won't make sense unless youheard the last episode.

(00:42):
No, it won't.
Okay.
Shall we just get started whileyou eat?
Sure.
I'm going to mute myself so youguys don't hear me chewing.
Okay.
We're going to start with somequotes.
The two most important days inyour life are the day you are
born and the day you find outwhy.
Mark Twain.

(01:03):
It's not the years in your lifethat count.
It's the life in your years.
Abraham Lincoln.
And oh nope, I have two more.
When you were born, you criedand the world rejoiced.
Live your life so that when youdie, the world cries and you
rejoice.
That's a Cherokee proverb.
I like that one, yeah.

And the final quote (01:24):
help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi.
You're my only hope.
Princess Leia.
All right.
We already just said welcome andeverything.
Yeah, we did.
We did it backwards.
Did we?
I think we did it backwards lastweek or two weeks ago than two.
Five minutes ago.

(01:46):
Okay, so this will be thebackwards ones.
But yeah, we did it.
Okay.
Okay.
Are you ready?
I am so ready.
Okay.
Because I don't do my episodeslike Jessica.
I do my episodes with a littletwist.
So because I'm extra.
All right, here we go.

(02:07):
Hey there, cats and kittens.
I recently stumbled.
She just killed her.
Cats and kittens.
Oh goodness.
This is gonna be a long episode.
I recently stumbled on my folks'old journal from 1977, and man,

(02:27):
flipping through it is liketaking a trip in a time machine.
The music, the movies, thedisasters, the politics, even
the threads people were rocking.
It was all groovy, wild, andunforgettable.
So dig this.
Let's step through 1977 month bymonth as if we're reading their

(02:49):
notes together.
January 1977.
Far out.
Everyone in the house is gluedto roots.
It's heavy man, raw, real.
We sit there in front of theglowing TV screen, barely
breathing, feeling the story ofKunta Kinte and his descendants

(03:10):
as if it's happening right infront of us.
You hear the gasps and snifflesfrom the neighbors on the other
side of the walls.
Conversations explode at work,school, and dinner tables.
Slavery, family, survival.
It's forcing the whole countryto face itself.
I've never seen anything sopowerful on television, and I

(03:31):
doubt I ever will again.
It's a mix of heartbreak, anger,and awe.
Totally mind-blowing.
Have you ever watched it?
I haven't.

unknown (03:43):
Have you?

SPEAKER_01 (03:44):
No, but I was reading up on it.
And it was obviously I want to,I want to watch it.
So it was the TV show was basedon the book.
Books, and I don't rememberrecall who the author is, but uh
it was it talks about the Ithought it was a movie.

(04:05):
I think it was maybe made into amovie.
Okay.
Also.
Um, but or maybe this was like athey called it like a
mini-series kind of movie.
Yeah, made for TV movie.
Yeah, but it it really shook alot of people up, and they were
talking there was somecontroversy over the director

(04:27):
taking some liberties and notstaying true to the book.
But I think it still got apowerful message across.
Nice.
Yeah.
January 9th, 1977, Super BowlXI.
The Raiders totally crushed theVikings, 32 to 14.

(04:48):
Over 103,000 fans packed intothe stadium, and 81.9 million
are glued to their TVs.
The cheers, the chants, theenergy, it's like the whole
country is vibing together.
I wonder if the Vikings willever win a Super Bowl.
Oh, I somewhere in my desk.

(05:10):
Still wondering.
Still an entry.
Uh October 2025.
I wonder if the Vikings willever win a Super Bowl.
Okay.
January 20th, 1977.
Jimmy Carter is sworn in aspresident.

(05:30):
No limo for this cat.
He walks down PennsylvaniaAvenue shaking hands, chatting
with people like one of thegang.
There's hope in the air afterWatergate and the Vietnam
hangover.
Then he pardons draft dodgers, amove that sparks heated debates
at every dinner table.
Some folks say it's righteous,others a gas.

(05:50):
Either way, the country feelslike it's cautiously stepping
into a new groove, trying toheal and maybe finally look
forward.
Good old Prez Carter.
Prez Carter made it in twoepisodes.
He sure did.
He showed.
Showed.
January 28th, 1977.

(06:12):
Buffalo is buried under amonster blizzard.
Winds near 70 miles an hour,temperatures dropping like
crazy, cars vanish under driftstaller than me.
This this must have been dadwriting it because mom and
everything's taller than mom.
And highways shut down, peoplestranded in stores, gas

(06:34):
stations, and homes.
National Guardsmen roll in todig everyone out.
Some die, some survivemiraculously.
It's a gnarly reminder thatnature still calls the shots.
Streets look like frozen rivers,snow piled two stories high.
It's heavy, man.
Heavy.

SPEAKER_00 (06:53):
Yeah.
You are such a dork.

SPEAKER_01 (06:55):
Because I'm doing this.

SPEAKER_00 (06:57):
Yes.
It's heavy, man.
It's heavy, man.
Heavy.
I love it though.

SPEAKER_01 (07:03):
70s, baby.
Okay.
February 1977.
Music everywhere.
Queen drops, we will rock you,and we are champions.
You can't escape that.
Stomp, stomp.
Clap echoing in gymnasiums,school dances, and arenas.
Totally anthem material.

(07:25):
This music is alive, man.
Like it moves with yourheartbeat.
March 1977.
Disco threads dominate thescene, and punk is rising too.
Ripped jeans, leather jackets,safety pins, spiky hair,

(07:47):
rebellion is in the air, and youcan see it painted on every
wall, every kid's notebook.
Fashion is loud and life feelslouder.
I'm sorry.
My dog took my flip-flop.
That is so random.
Did he bring it back?

SPEAKER_00 (08:08):
He's not chewing on it anymore, at least.

SPEAKER_01 (08:11):
Oh my gosh.
Okay.
April 1977.
Apple drops the Apple II.
Dig this.
A computer in your living room.
Not just some theops.
Not just some office gizmo, buta little box with a screen and

(08:32):
keyboard ready to teach kidsprogramming, play games, or even
compose music.
The future feels small enough tosit on a table, but it's huge in
what it promises.
You can almost feel the worldshifting, man.
A digital revolution sneakinginto every home.
Floppy disks were so cool.

SPEAKER_00 (08:52):
I know.
Like they were cooler than thewhatever's, and they're cooler
than USBs.
Floppy discs get lost.
Yes.
Floppy discs.
Let's bring them back.
Yeah.
Man.
Man.

SPEAKER_01 (09:10):
May 1977.
We hit the theater for StarWars.
Holy smokes, the battles, thecreatures, the adventure, people
hooting and hollering in theaisles, kids on shoulders,
friends shouting lines back atthe screen.
It's not just a flick, it's amovement.

(09:30):
Posters, toys, costumes alreadyeverywhere.
Everyone's talking aboutlightsabers, the Millennium
Falcon, and the mysteriousforce.
It feels like a galaxy opened upovernight and everyone wants to
step inside.
I think people will be talkingabout this for a long time.
Star Wars is so cool.

(09:52):
So cool.
And so cool.
If you're listening to this andyou don't agree with us, you can
stop disagreeing with us.

SPEAKER_00 (10:03):
I was at I was at a trivia last night at my brewery,
a local brewery here in town.
And the bonus question was listthe names of all nine Star Wars
films and their episode number.

SPEAKER_01 (10:17):
Ooh.

SPEAKER_00 (10:18):
Yeah, it was hard.

SPEAKER_01 (10:20):
I don't know that I could do that.

SPEAKER_00 (10:23):
I uh I screwed the last one up because I put read
the return of Skywalker insteadof the rise of Skywalker.

SPEAKER_01 (10:30):
Oh yeah, I would definitely mess them all up.
I knew four, five, and six.

SPEAKER_00 (10:37):
For sure.
And the last one.
But yeah, it was hard.
It was really hard.

SPEAKER_01 (10:43):
Hmm.
Okay.
June 20th, 1977.
The Trans-Alaska pipelinefinally kicks on.
800 miles of steel stretchingfrom Prudhoe Bay to Valdez.
Crude oil begins flowing south.
Total engineering marvel, butnot without risk.
A fatal accident remindseveryone this isn't playtime.

(11:06):
Still, the idea of Americanenergy flowing freely feels
monumental.
It's industrial, it's gritty,it's revolutionary.
I feel like dad should havewritten this.
Ah, I feel like you channeleddad writing this.
Right?
Like I hear his voice.

SPEAKER_00 (11:27):
I just want you to say man after everything.
Yeah, man.
It's revolutionary man.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (11:35):
Okay, I'll throw in some.
Oh, I got a man in this one.
Okay.
July 13th, 1977.
New York City goes dark.
Total blackout.
Lightning fries, power lines,and boom, the city is pitch
black.
Some folks chill on stoops,soaking in the eerie silence.
Others lose it.

(11:56):
Looting, fires, chaoseverywhere.
Thousands arrested, storestrashed.
The city's frustrations arespilling over.
It's wild, man.
Totally heavy.
I didn't know that happened.
New York lost power?
Yeah, New York City.

SPEAKER_00 (12:16):
Dang.
The whole city?
How long was it out for?

SPEAKER_01 (12:24):
I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 (12:25):
Why don't you know that?

SPEAKER_01 (12:28):
Because I was too busy trying to make this sound
like dad.
Okay, sorry.
Why should we start beingfactual now?

SPEAKER_00 (12:43):
I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 (12:44):
Oh my gosh, my great Pyrenees is under my chair.
No, he's not.
He's right there.

SPEAKER_00 (12:51):
Yes, because he just wormed his way out.
Okay, sorry.

SPEAKER_01 (12:53):
Okay.
Resume, Stuobs.
Yes.
That's what we call our dad, bythe way.
August 16th, 1977.
Elvis Presley is dead.
At home in.
Oh, that's so sad.
I can't even.
The radio won't quit spinninghis heat, his heats, his hits.

(13:14):
Got all those heats.
Those heats.
Maybe I was Southern.
I don't know.
People are lining up atGraceland with flowers and
candles.
The king of rock and roll isgone.
But he wasn't alone.
1977 also claimed Bing Crosby,the smooth croner, and Charlie
Chaplin, the silent film geniuswho made the world laugh for

(13:38):
decades.
Man, culture is taking hits leftand right this year.
August 1977.
Far out.
The big ear telescope in Ohiopicks up the wow signal.
72 seconds of a narrow bandradio signal from deep space.
Could it be aliens trying to sayhello?

(14:01):
Totally cosmic.
It's like the universe winked atus.
Minds blown, dreams expanded,possibilities endless.
Man.
What was it?
Was it what was it?

SPEAKER_00 (14:15):
It was just this this um the sound that they
yeah, but they they haven'tfound out what it was by now.
I mean, that's like 50 yearsago.

SPEAKER_01 (14:26):
You're you are the astronomy dork.
You should know this.

SPEAKER_00 (14:32):
I I don't have time for that in my adult life.

SPEAKER_01 (14:35):
I did, I just stopped working.
We have been waiting for thismoment all of our lives.

SPEAKER_00 (14:50):
Finally happens.
I am gonna look into thatthough.
I'm curious.
Do it.
I will not right now.
I'll probably forget.

SPEAKER_01 (15:00):
Okay.
You're gonna have to listen tothis episode and be like, oh
yeah.

unknown (15:05):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (15:06):
Okay.
September 1977.
Atari 2600 hits the scene.
I went to the store just to peepit.
My voice cracks.
I went to the store just to peepit.
What?
Peep it.

(15:27):
Peep it, man.
Okay.
Bright graphics, joysticks,space invaders, pong, combat.
Jessica had a sweatshirt withspace invaders on it.
I did.
I loved it.
That's the only article ofclothing I ever remember Jessica
wearing.
Oh, and Mary.

(15:50):
We might be the only one writtentracksuits.
But that's 80s.

SPEAKER_00 (15:56):
Yeah.
So was your space in the Vaderssweatshirt though.
Yes, because I didn't have itwhen I was a baby.
You should have, but you didn't.

SPEAKER_01 (16:14):
Okay.
I don't know what's happeninganymore.
Do you?
No, we lost it.
All right.
Kids and adults crowd aroundwaiting for a turn.
The future is literally in yourhands.
They didn't say literally backthen.
They probably did, but theyactually used it in its actual
sense.

(16:36):
Yeah, in its literal sense.
In its literal sense, right?
Going outside to play, that'sabout to be old school.
December 1977.
Saturday night fever.
Bee Gees blasting, disco ballsspinning, people twirling on the
dance floor.
Disco is everywhere, man.

(16:57):
Radio, clubs, school dances,threads too.
Polyester shirts, flared pants,glitter, platforms.
Streets shimmer like a mirroreddance floor.
Feels like the disco ball isfollowing me everywhere I go.
Totally far out.
Until it dies.
Two years later.

SPEAKER_00 (17:21):
I don't know.
I didn't realize it was thatshort of a thing until you just
said what you said.

SPEAKER_01 (17:25):
Right.
That's why when that's why whenyou said it in your episode, I
was like, what?
It just it was like December of1977.

SPEAKER_00 (17:38):
That's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 (17:40):
Yeah.
Hmm.
Too much, I guess.
Too glittery, I suppose.
It's just too much.
Too much.
Too much.
Okay, late entry, March 23rd,1977.

(18:04):
Nothing.
Oh man.
Today our beautiful firstborndaughter was born.
She's perfect.
An absolute angel.
Tiny fingers, tiny toes,delicate little nose, big
curious eyes that already seemto take in the whole universe.
I can't stop staring at her.
Every coo, every yawn, everylittle sigh makes me feel like

(18:27):
the world just paused.
Love, awe, pure joy.
I do go on a bit on this.
Our hearts have grown 10 timesbigger in one day.
The world could be falling apartoutside.
But right now, all that mattersis her.
Every giggle, every flatteringeyelash.
We are officially hooked,totally smitten, and life will

(18:49):
never be the same.

SPEAKER_00 (18:53):
Dad andor mom definitely did not write that.
I didn't even know I was born.
They're like, where did thisbaby come from?

SPEAKER_01 (19:02):
I was like, what just happened?
Reading these pages, 1977 wasn'tjust a year of headlines.
It was a year of contrasts, hopeand heartbreak, progress and
danger, fun and chaos.
People laughed, danced, mourned,protested, and dreamed all at

(19:23):
once.
And that's what makes it worthremembering.
Plus, I was born.
That was I'm I am the lateentry.
History isn't just for dates orevents, it's how people lived
it.
This story is a reminder thatbehind every headline there were
real folks trying to groove witha world changing faster than

(19:43):
ever.
So thanks for stepping back into1977 with me.
Keep your bell bottoms pressed,your vinyl spinning, and your
eyes on the stars, man.
You never know what storiesyou'll find.

SPEAKER_00 (19:56):
I like it.

SPEAKER_01 (19:58):
So, yeah, that was not a real journal because
neither one of us of our parentswon would have cared to
chronicle their lives.
True.
Uh we already mentioned theywouldn't have realized I was
even born.
You know, mom's going to yell atus for that.

(20:19):
Does mom listen?
Sometimes.
Any comments?
Nah, man.
It's all groovy.
I was trying to channel uh alittle bit of dad, a little bit
of uh Matthew McConaughey.

(20:41):
Ah and a little bit of a radiohost.
Yeah.
Okay.
These and don't be's.
Do I go first?
Do you go first?
Yes, you go first.
Okay.
O B Juan Kenobi.

(21:05):
Be groovy.
Be groovy, man.
Yeah, yeah.
Don't be a Vikings fan.
Don't worry about that.
I don't know.

(21:26):
Don't don't be a square.

SPEAKER_00 (21:29):
Did they say square?
Is that older?
No, I think that's like fifties.
Don't be a buzzkill, man.
Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_01 (21:42):
Okay.
So we shall return in two weekswith what?
We don't know.
Nope.
No idea.
Oh.
Oh man.
Okay.
My eyes twitching.
Sorry.
Are you stressed about whatwe're going to do in two weeks?

SPEAKER_00 (22:01):
It's been twitching for last week.
Thanks for listening.

SPEAKER_01 (22:07):
Yeah.
Thank you for listening and uhstay groovy.

SPEAKER_00 (22:13):
Yeah.

unknown (22:17):
Bye.

SPEAKER_00 (22:18):
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