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April 29, 2025 70 mins

What if the most powerful tool in your leadership arsenal isn't your expertise, your position, or even your ability to perform miracles—but simply your capacity to love? Pastor Ryan Franklin challenges conventional leadership wisdom with his message "No Miracle Required: The Leader Who Loves Anyway," revealing how true influence emerges not from power but from presence.

Drawing from the story of the woman at the well, Franklin illuminates how Jesus prioritized seeing, knowing, and loving people above demonstrating His power or authority. This counterintuitive approach didn't just change one woman's life—it transformed an entire community. The parallels to modern leadership are striking, as Franklin explains: "Leadership isn't just about telling people the truth, it's about walking with them through the truth."

The teaching gains profound confirmation when Missionary Charles Robinette shares a divine encounter from his recent Ethiopia crusade. Before ministering, his team received an unexpected prophetic word: "These people don't need your miracles; they need your love and compassion." The result was a remarkable "baptism of love" that preceded over 600 people receiving the Holy Ghost and numerous healings. This divine synchronicity underscores the message's timeliness for apostolic leaders worldwide.

Franklin dives into the neuroscience of character development, revealing how true growth happens in relationships that balance both grace and truth. Some leaders operate like hammers—all correction and pressure—while others function like rose petals—avoiding difficult conversations at all costs. Jesus modeled perfect leadership by creating environments where truth could surface within relationships characterized by grace and acceptance.

This transformative session culminates in a powerful time of prayer, as leaders worldwide seek a fresh baptism of compassion. The challenge remains: who in your life needs your presence more than your position? Who needs to be seen, known, and loved anyway? As you wrestle with these questions, you'll discover that leadership isn't primarily about what you accomplish, but about who you become and how you help others become their best selves through the power of love.

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Speaker 1 (00:23):
In the name of the Lord, in the name of Jesus, in
the name of Jesus, in the nameof Jesus, I plead the blood of
Jesus over this apostolicmentoring session today.
God anoint every one of theseapostolic leaders.
God Speak into their lives,equip them for kingdom service

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God, speak into their lives,equip them for kingdom service
God, god in your name, in thename of the Lord, in the name of
the Lord, in the name you, lord, hallelujah, mighty God.

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In the name of Jesus, in thename of Jesus, in the name of
Jesus, hallelujah, oh.

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I plead the blood of Jesus overthis apostolic mentoring
session.
In the name of the Lord, in thename of the Lord, in the name
of the Lord, in the name ofJesus, in the name of Jesus,
hallelujah.
In the name of Jesus, in thename of Jesus, in the name of

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the Lord, everybody andgreetings to you from Geneva,
switzerland.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Glory to God everyone and greetings from Geneva,
switzerland.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
I am so excited to be hailing from this great
apostolic city.

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I am so happy to be among this great apostolic city.

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We, as you know, have a great history and love for
the nation of Switzerland andfor all of the apostolics that
are here in this great church,the Pentecostals of Geneva.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
And, of course, to be doing apostolic mentoring today
from Geneva is just a great joy.
We just came in from Ethiopia.

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Where we had a great, great crusade in from Ethiopia.

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Where we had a great, great crusade in that nation.
It's been 23 some years sincewe have been able to have boots
on the ground and do a crusadein that field.

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And I can't tell you or express to you how emotional
it was to be back boots on theground in Ethiopia just last
week.

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As a matter of fact, I'm not even sure that I can
express to you the depth ofemotions that I went through.

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But as we came pulling in Team Bus came pulling
into city of Anole where thecrusade was being held.

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Alors que le bus arrivait dans la ville où la
croisade devait avoir lieu.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
I obviously wasn't prepared for the emotional
journey that it was going to be.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
Je n'étais pas vraiment préparé pour le voyage
émotionnel que cela serait.

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Because I started weeping as I saw the line of
people singing and dancing andthey created this tunnel for us
to drive our vehicle through ofthe people worshiping the Lord.

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And I just started weeping uncontrollably.

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And all the Billy Cole crusades came flooding back
and the some million soulrevival that was had during
those crusades just the memoriesof those experiences came
flooding back.
But to see the hunger of thepeople, the love of those

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leaders and how desperate theywere to have us come back
alongside of them in thepartnership of faith to help
them accomplish something great.
In Ethiopia, friends, it wassomething special.
We had 668 people receive theHoly Ghost, 210 children receive

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the Holy Ghost, some 160.
Something miracles we had manyblind people received their
sight, many deaf people receivedtheir hearing, many people that

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were crippled in some way oranother.
God miraculously and notablyhealed them as well healed them
as well.
We are already planning toreturn next year in January to
do another crusade in thatcountry.
It will be January 26 throughFebruary 2nd of next year.

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Ce sera du 26 janvier au 2 février de l'an prochain.

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We want to encourage all of our apostolic mentoring
family and Global Harvest family.
Put that in your mind, startpraying about it and, if the
Lord speaks to you, we wouldlove to have all of you come and
be a part of serving the nationof Ethiopia.
And I certainly don't want tomiss the opportunity to honor

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Bishop Fakada.
Bishop Fakada is a greatapostolic leader in Ethiopia and
doing a dynamic job, and we areso thrilled that the Lord has

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knit our hearts together with agreat leader To accomplish a
great kingdom purpose inEthiopia.
And I just want to tell you thebest is yet to come.
I felt the Holy Ghost tell usmultiple times in our apostolic

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mentoring sessions there inEthiopia.
That we better be careful aboutbeing paralyzed looking over
our shoulder.
Because what is ahead of God'sgreat church is going to just be

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so much bigger and better thananything we have ever seen in
the past.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Because what is ahead of God's great church is so
much bigger than anything wehave ever seen in the past.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
We are so excited to be on Apostolic Mentoring today
and, of course, to be a part ofthis great global mission of
equipping millions to reachbillions.
But today we are just thrilledto have Pastor Ryan Franklin

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back on Apostolic Mentoringmentoring.

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He is the author of the Christian Leader Blueprint.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
And Christian Leader, blueprint you.
French speaker.

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Christian Leader Blueprint.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
And you of course know we've promoted this book
many times in ApostolicMentoring.
But I'm going to put the linkin here again because if you
have not yet bought it, youbetter do yourself and the
kingdom a favor and get out andbuy this great book.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
C'est un grand livre.
Si je veux mettre le lien dansle chat pour ceux qui n'ont pas
encore acheté, je vous conseillede l'acheter parce que c'est un
grand livre.
I I also want to encourageeverybody on apostolic mentoring
and everybody that's a part ofGlobal Harvest Crusades.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
I'm going to put a link to where you can fill out a
Christian leaderself-assessment.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Là je vais mettre un lien pour que vous puissiez
avoir vous faire votreévaluation personnelle de
chrétien.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
I did it and I didn't like the results.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
Je l'ai fait et je n'ai pas aimé le résultat.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
So I redid it and I still didn't like the results,
but it helped me anyhow and itwould be a great, great blessing
to you.
It's free of charge.
You can do this Christianleader self-assessment free of
charge on Pastor Franklin'swebsite and you need to do this.

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It will help you really look atwho you are, what you are.
Areas that you are strong,areas that you are weak Might
even reveal some areas that youneed to sweep further under the
rug that you need to sweepfurther under the rug.

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I'm just kidding.
That's not apostolic at all.
You got to deal with it.
You have to translate SisterKarina.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
You can't just ignore things when I say them like
that Did you say exactly what Isaid.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Okay.
I'm going to stand with you, Ibelieve you.
Okay, I'm going to stand withyou, I believe you.
Okay.
Then also, you need to getconnected with Pastor Franklin's
the Christian Leader MadeSimple podcast.

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It's one of my favorite podcasts.
You also need to connect withthe podcast of the brother,
because it's one of my favorites.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
And I'm going to put all of these links in the chat
here in just a few moments, butthey are already on the Facebook
in the Facebook informationarea, and I encourage everybody
get the book, get subscribed tothe podcast and do the

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self-assessment.
It is so valuable.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
I encourage everyone to buy the book, to connect to
the podcast and to do theevaluation.
It has so much value.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Brother Franklin, we love you.
Sir, thank you for being withus again.
Please take your liberty, asalways.

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Thank you, brother Robinette, and I'm so thankful
to be with you today and youramazing audience.
Thank you, pastor Robinette.
I'm very happy to be with youtoday and your amazing audience.
I love you and love what you dofor the kingdom of God, and I'm
so honored to be on ApostolicMentoring again today.
Now my lights are currentlyblinking.

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We have a bad storm coming intoAlexandria, so pray that my
electricity does not go out.
If it does, I'll grab my cellphone and we'll keep going in
the dark.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
If it does, I'll grab my cell phone and we'll keep
going in the dark.
Two things I want to share withyou before I get started.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Brother Robinette.
It's called From Silence toClarity, how Missionary Charles
Robinette learned to hear fromGod.
I'm telling you now you don'twant to miss that episode, go

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subscribe so you don't miss thatepisode.
Second thing I want to mentionis I have a special offer for
this particular audience.
Brother Robinette doesn't evenknow about this, but at the end,

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if you will follow this untilthe end, I have a special offer
for you.

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And I think you will want to hear this it's going to
bless you and bless the kingdomof God.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
So stay tuned to the end.
I want to share a lesson withyou today.
Now, you're not going to likethis.
I'm calling it.
No miracle required, the leaderwho loves anyway, and I'm

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already making Brother Robinettesquirm a little bit in his
chair, but just hang in therewith me.
Leadership isn't always aboutknowing what to do.
Leadership can be confusing attimes, and there's probably

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times where you have felt stuckMaybe you're leading a ministry
or a small group, or even inyour own family and you felt
like nothing you could say or dowould make a difference.
I've been there many times.

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I was sitting across from Johnin my office, this office right
here and yes, I'm changing hisname to protect the innocent.
He was a leader in one of ourministries at POA.

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John had not been to church inthree months and I didn't even
notice it.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
John had not been to church in three months and I
didn't even notice it.
No one noticed and no onereached out.
And here he was, hurt and alone, and he felt like an outcast.

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And he was there that day toinform me that he wasn't coming
back to POA.
And I felt this ache deep inthe pit of my stomach.
Everything within me wanted amiracle for John in that moment.

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Fire from heaven.

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Something to sort of shake him up, something to wake
him up.

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But there was no miracle.

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There was no flash of light.

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It was just me and John.
And so I just sat with him and Ilistened and his anger turned
into guilt, and then from guiltto shame, as he poured his heart

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out to me and I sat there and Iloved him anyway.
And that love shifted somethingin him From shame to surprise,

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from surprise to loved anyway,and then to just he felt loved.
And in those moments it'stempting to think that
leadership requires a miracle orthat we have to do something

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supernatural or nothing willever change.
You know, I love miracles justas much as Brother Robinette.

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I want and need miracles in my life, but
leadership isn't about miraclesas much as it's about presence,

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because, more than a miracle,people need a leader who sees
them.

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They need a leader who knows them and who loves
them.

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anyway, and I would say that there's no better
example of this than Jesus andthe day that he met the woman at
the well and on his way toGalilee, jesus chose to pass

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through Samaria, where he metthe woman in the well While he
was in Galilee.

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the Lord chose to pass through Samaria.

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This was a place that Jews avoided.

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And he sat by a well at noon.

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This was the hottest part of the day.

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And that's when this woman came.
She was a Samaritan woman, allalong.
And she didn't expect to seeanyone.
And certainly not a Jewish manwilling to speak to her.
But Jesus purposely asked for adrink.

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She was stunned.
Jews didn't talk to Samaritans,especially women like her.

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But Jesus wasn't there to condemn her.
He was there to see her.
Jesus knew her story.
He knew why she came alone.
He knew why the others avoidedher and he knew why shame

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weighed her down.
And instead of pushing her away, he drew closer and he offered
her living water, Something thatcould satisfy her soul.
And when she still couldn'ttrust him, Jesus did the

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unthinkable.
He told her her own story.
He told her about the husbandwho broke her and then the godly

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man that she left and the shamethat she carried because of all
of this.
And in that moment she knewthat this was no ordinary man
and she dropped her water jarand she ran back to the village.

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And she ran back to the village.
And she told everyone come seea man who told me everything
I've ever done.

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Could this be the Christ?

Speaker 3 (23:45):
The woman who avoided people was now running to
people Because for the firsttime she knew she was seen,
known and loved.
She expected rejection, butinstead she was seen.

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She expected rejection, butinstead she was seen.
She expected judgment, butinstead she was known she
expected to be cast aside, butinstead she was loved anyway,

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and that changed everything forher.

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It wasn't a miracle it wasn't fire from heaven.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
It wasn't a sudden supernatural moment, it was just
his presence.

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Because, more than a miracle, she needed someone who
saw her.
She needed someone who knew herand who loved her anyway.
And that is exactly whatleadership is.

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People don't need perfectleaders.
People don't need us to haveall of the answers.
People don't need us to be themiracle workers in their lives.
What they really need is for usto see them.

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To know them.
And to love them anyway.

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To know them.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
And to love them anyway.
But that kind of leadershipseeing people, knowing them and
loving them anyway it may soundsimple, but it doesn't just
happen.
Leadership isn't about a titleor a position.

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Leadership is about influence,and influence is built through
relationship.

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Matthew 9.36 says.
But when he saw the multitudes,he was moved with compassion on
them, because they fainted andwere scattered abroad as sheep
having no shepherd.

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Matthew 9.36.

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Jesus didn't just see problems to be solved.
He saw people who needed to beknown and loved.
I want you to think about thepeople who have influenced your
life the most.
Was it the loudest person?

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Was it the person with the mostenergy?
Was it the most powerful person?
Did they have the biggest title?
Was it the most powerful person?
I don't think so.
It was the person who showed upfor you.

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It was the person who saw you,who listened to you and who
walked with you when you neededthem the most.
That's leadership, and it'swhat people around us need from

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us.
They don't just need a preacherwith a microphone.
They don't just need a bosswith a title.
They don't just need a miracleworker.

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Ils n'ont pas besoin d'une personne qui fait des
miracles.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
They need a leader who builds real relationships.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
Ils ont besoin d'un leader qui construit de vraies
relations.

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Because influence only happens up close.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
Parce que l'influence n'arrive que très proche.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
And so here's a question for you.
Voici donc une question pourvous, because influence is only
very close, and so here's aquestion for you.

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Who in your life needs your presence more than
your position?
Who in your life needs yourpresence more than your position
?
And so that's where leadershipbegins, and that's where
leadership begins.
Let's talk about now theneuroscience of character growth

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, If leadership is influence sile leadership, c'est de
l'influence and influence isbuilt through relationship et si
l'influence est construite parles relations then why are
relationships so doggone hard?

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Pourquoi est-ce que c'est sidur d'avoir une relation?

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Now, let's be honest Soyons honnêtes.

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People are messy and people come with baggage, people
have broken parts and uglyblind spots and people get angry

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and they shut down sometimes.
And sometimes they even pullaway from us and guess what.
Sometimes we do the very samethings, and that's why real

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relationship requires more thanjust knowing what to do.
It requires becoming the kindof leader who can handle those
sorts of tensions.
We have to be able to handlethe real life struggles with

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people.
We have to be able to handlethe imperfections of people
Without giving up on them, andthat's why leadership isn't just
about influence.

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It's also about growth, notjust in them, but in us as well.

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Because here's the truth.

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You can't lead people well if you're not growing
yourself.

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That's the truth, and the way that we grow.

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The way that we become the kind of leader who
doesn't react or push peopleaway, the way we become people
who doesn't give up on others,is through something that's far

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deeper than knowledge or skill.
It's something far more thanjust reading a book or taking a
course.
This is something that happensdeep in our character, because

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how you lead is a deepreflection of who you are
becoming.
And one of the biggest factorsthat I see that comes from our
character is how we balancetruth and grace.

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Now, this is so important because how you lead,
whether it's truth or grace,shapes the kind of relationships
you build.

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C'est tellement important dans votre manière de
mener, parce que ce que vousbalancez la grâce et la vérité,
ça fait de vous la personne quevous êtes en train de consommer.

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And it shapes the kind of culture that you're
going to create around you.

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Et cela est en train de former la culture que vous
mettez autour de vous.
You know, some leaders are likea hammer.
They are all rules andcorrection and pressure.

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And others are like rose petals they avoid hard
conversations and they keep thepeace at all costs.
But the Bible says that realleadership combines both of

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these things.
We need grace and truth.
We need strength and truth.
We need strength and compassion.
Because the hammer alone or thetruth alone is going to crush

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people, but the rose petalsalone, the grace alone, with no
truth, is going to make peopletoo fragile and immature, but if
we can combine the two togetherwhen they create something

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strong and compassionate wherethey create something strong and
compassionate where it's steadyand it's kind.
You see, jesus knew exactly howto lead people in a way that
brought change, but withoutbreaking them.

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He spoke truth to the woman atthe well, he told her things
about herself that no one elseknew.
He brought the truth to thesurface, but he did it in an

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environment of grace.
You see, jesus didn't shame her, jesus didn't reject her.
He saw her and he knew her andhe loved her anyway.

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And neuroscience has onlyrecently discovered what the
Bible has shown us all alongthat real growth happens in the
context of relationships when weexperience both grace and truth

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.
You see, we don't change inisolation.
We don't change by pressure orguilt or shame.
We change when we feel safeenough to be honest and when we

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feel challenged enough to grow.
This is what will create realand lasting transformation Deep
within us and deep within others, and it can only be done in the

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context of a relationship.
And it's why Jesus didn't justgive people new information.
Jesus also gave them newexperiences.
Think about Zacchaeus was athief, but Jesus treated him

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like a host.
Peter denied Jesus three times,but Jesus restored him with
three words feed my sheep withthree words feed my sheep.
The woman at the well expectedjudgment but Jesus gave her her

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dignity.

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And that is what leadership really is, and I
really hope you're hearing metoday it's not just about
telling people the truth, it'sabout walking with them through
the truth and, at the end of theday, leadership without love

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isn't leadership at all.
I want you to hear what theApostle Paul said in 1
Corinthians 13, 1-3, and I'llread one scripture at a time.
Verse 1, though I speak withthe tongues of men and of angels

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and have not love, I am becomeas a sounding brass or a
tinkling cymbal.
And though I have the gift ofprophecy and understand all
mysteries and all knowledge, andthough I have all faith so that
I could remove mountains andhave not love, I am nothing and

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though I bestow all my goods tofeed the poor, and though I give
my body to be burned and havenot love it, profit me nothing
and though I bestow, it profitsme nothing.

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This is exactly what John neededthat day sitting in my office.

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Not a miracle, not more correction, but someone to
love him anyway, and it'sexactly what I needed in my life
to see my life grow as well.
Think about what Paul is sayinghere in this scripture.

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You can speak with power.
Paul is saying here in thisscripture you can speak with
power.
You can have deep spiritualgifts.
You can sacrifice everythingfor other people, but if love

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isn't at the center, it doesn'tmean anything.
You see, love isn't just aleadership quality.
Love is the very foundation ofleadership itself.
And without love leadershipbecomes control, or it becomes

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performance, or it becomesself-serving of ourselves.

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But with love everything changes, because love
never fails.
I want you to think about Jesuswith the woman at the well.
He saw her, he knew her and heloved her anyway.

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Il l'a aimée, quoi qu'il en soit.

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And he could have performed some physical miracle
to prove who he was at any point.

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Il aurait pu faire un miracle pour prouver qu'il
était à un certain moment donné.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
He could have corrected her on every past
mistake that she had ever made.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
Il aurait pu la corriger sur toutes les erreurs
qu'elle a commises dans le passé.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
He could have corrected her on every past
mistake that she had ever made.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
He could have just told her what she needed to do
and washed his hands of it.
But instead he drew closer toher in the midst of her negative
realities, and that's whatchanged her life.

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It wasn't because of a miracle, it wasn't because of
a confrontation, but it wasbecause of a conversation With
love at the center of her mess.
Let's be real here today.

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Some people are really hard tolove.
Some people are going todisappoint you, some people are
going to let you down, and thequestion isn't do they deserve

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my love?
The real question is will Ilove them anyway?

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The real question is will I love them anyway?

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And so I ask you who in your life needs more of your
presence than your pressure?
Who in your life needs you tosee them, to know them and to
love them anyway?
Because that's real leadership,not power, not position, not

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performance, but love.
And love never fails.
And so, as I wrap up here,we've talked about what real
leadership looks like.

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But now it's not just about knowing it, it's about
choosing to live it, and you canlead like the world leads, with
power, performance and control.

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Or you can lead like Jesus, who is a leader who sees
people, who knows them and lovesthem anyway, because real
leadership is about presence.
Because, real leadership isabout presence.

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Real leadership is aboutrelationship.

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Real leadership is about love.
That's the type of leadershipthat changes lives, and I want
you to think of one person inyour life who needs that type of
leadership and relationshipfrom you.

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And that's your challenge,that's your next step.
And you know there's power inspeaking things out right, and I
know you're muted right now,but if you wouldn't mind with

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whoever's around you, why don'tyou speak these words out right
now?
You ready With confidence?
I want you to say I will leadwith love.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
Say it one more time I will lead with love.
Because, that's the kind ofleader that Jesus was.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
And that's the kind of leader that this world,
especially the church, needstoday.
And that's the kind of leaderthat you were called to be.
Amen.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
For many years, and I'm done, but for many years.
I just want to mention this.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
I led with a hammer.
I thought that leadership wasabout being right.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
I thought it was about enforcing standards and
about fixing people and I haveto be honest, that approach did
work, but only for a littlewhile.
It didn't produce lastinginfluence and change and it

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didn't build strongrelationships and at times it
left people more wounded thanempowered.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
And maybe some of you can relate to that today.
Or maybe you've seen leadershipdone with too much hammer and
not enough grace, or maybeyou've seen it done with too

(47:33):
much grace and not enough truth.
And that's exactly why I wrotethe Christian Leader Blueprint
and its four workbooks.
This is not just a book, it's asystem.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
It's a blueprint to help you move from flawed
mentality of leadership to thekind of leadership that
transforms lives, and it walksyou through four critical areas.
One is we want to establish ahealthier rhythm of life.

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That's first and foremost.
Then we want to see andunderstand ourselves more
clearly.
Third, we want to leverage ourstrengths around us, our
giftings and our strengths.
And the fourth part is we wantto build stronger, more

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productive relationships, andthis is the process that helped
me shift from my leadership,from pressure, to presence.
And I also want to mention toyou that I have an online

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community coaching programcalled Christian Leader
Community Coaching.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
I also want to mention that I teach online to
help people follow thisprinciple.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
And this is the program that will create lasting
change in your life and yourleadership.
And here's the promotion Iwanted to give you at the end If
you go on ryanfranklinorg andyou join.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
If you go to winefranklinorg and you join you
can enter 15ROB25.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
You can type 15ROB25.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
And I will give you 15% off your membership.
But here's the exciting part Iwill donate 25% of your
membership, for the life of yourmembership, to Brother
Robinette and his evangelisticefforts around the world.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
So you are getting a discount, but you are also
supporting Brother Robinette andhis efforts as well, and as
long as you are a member, youwill get the discount and he
will get the support.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
You will get the discount and he will get the
support.
That's 1-5-ROB-25.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
Pray about it.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
Think about it.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Pray about it, think about it and let's love people
the way that we need to trulylove people and lead people.
God bless you all.
Thank you again, brotherRobinette, for allowing me to be
on today.
I'm so grateful.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Praise God, I'm so grateful.
Praise God.
I'm just so overwhelmed by thisword today and I just want to
share with you some confirmationregarding what Brother Franklin
just taught, which is justamazing, amazing, revelatory
teaching.
When we pulled up to theEthiopia crusade last week, on

(52:00):
the very first day, and wepulled up to that crowd day and
we pulled up to that crowd.

Speaker 3 (52:17):
Before we stepped off the bus, a word of prophecy and
a word of knowledge came forthout of a couple of team members.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
And the synopsis of that word was this these people
do not need your miracles, theyneed your love and compassion.
And as we're sitting therepreparing to step off the bus,

(52:51):
just this incredible tsunami ofa baptism of love overtook the
team overtook the team.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
It was an unexpected baptism, an uncommon baptism for
a crusade environment.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
It didn't fit the mold of what people are normally
focused on when you're walkingoff a bus into a crusade
environment.
The word was simple.
God said I can do much morethrough love and compassion than

(53:40):
I can through your gifting.
And we all started weepingBrother Franklin on the bus and
our hearts were just overwhelmedwith this baptism of a
kingdom-critical gifting forthis hour and as we ministered

(54:09):
there those three days.
I can tell you how many timesthat we just began to put our
arms around people.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
Dirty Messy.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
But when we made them feel the love of God, it just
opened up such a victory in thenation of Ethiopia.
And that's what we need in thishour A great baptism of

(54:49):
compassion and love.
I can't even begin to explainto you how much Holy Ghost I
feel in this hotel room inGeneva right now, but I do feel
that God wants to baptize everysingle leader, every believer

(55:12):
that's listening right now, witha tsunami of compassion and
love for everybody that's inyour circle I'm not talking
about at your table.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
Those are the people that are easy to love.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
I'm talking about the people that are in your area,
that are within your reach, butyou have neglected, rejected,
resisted.
But they are right there thatthey just need love the dirty,

(56:01):
the smelly, the easy to reject,the easy to dismiss, Even those
who have hurt you.
The greatest God wants tobaptize you with a love today.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
God wants to baptize you with a love today.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
So, wherever you are, maybe we could just go ahead in
just a moment, not yet.
I know how quick you are toturn yourselves off mute and
start shouting.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
So just hold on a minute.
But in a moment I'm going toask you to take yourself off
mute and we're going to pray theprayer of faith over every
listener and we're going torelease a tsunami of love over

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God's global church.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
And I know some of you are driving right now.
Some of you are in hotel roomsright now.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
Some of you are at work listening.
God is going to change ourhearts so he can change the
world.
I want you just to takeyourselves off mute.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
Why don't you begin?

Speaker 3 (57:35):
to just maybe put your hand on your own heart and
pray that God will change yourheart so he can change the world
by the authority of the word ofGod.
Change your heart so he canchange yours.
He says change my heart so youcan change the world To take
another heart.
That is so hard by the power ofthe name of Jesus.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Rather than pressure.
By the power of the hand ofJesus Passion.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
Love people, see people without judgment of the
hand of those, that is in thename of Jesus.
In the name of Jesus.
In the name of Jesus, in thename of Jesus.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
In the name of Jesus In the name of Jesus.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
In the name of Jesus, in the name of Jesus.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
In the name of Jesus.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
In the name of Jesus, in the name of Jesus, in the
name of Jesus.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
In the name of Jesus.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
Take the reasons to resist and baptize us With the
love of the Lord that changespeople's lives forever oh God.
Oh God, and I will.

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Your love will be receivedalive and raised from the dead,
and then Jesus, I will come backto you and I will bring you
back Hallelujah.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
Hallelujah.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
In the name of Jesus in the name of Jesus Christ, I
will come back to you.
Hallelujah, hallelujah,hallelujah, hallelujah.

Speaker 3 (59:22):
Hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
Hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah,
hallelujah to change lives andlive for the better to create
hope, and hope for God.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
In the name of Jesus.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
Praise the defender.

Speaker 3 (59:45):
God.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Forever grateful to your help, jesus.
You be so very careful, god, togive us all the praise, all the
honor and all the glory God.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
We thank you for your love.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
We pray that we will walk away from your chains and
we will walk away from ourchains.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
We will walk away from your name, we will be
always aware of how we can livebetter and be better.
Make the right choices, God,that we will be at the center of
everything.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
In the name of Jesus, god help me reach the world the
way that you do.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
In the name of Jesus, God, help me reach the world
the way that you do.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
In the name of Jesus.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
God help me reach the world the way that you do In
the name of Jesus God help mereach the world the way that you
do.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
In the name of Jesus, God, help me reach the world
the way that you do In the nameof Jesus.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
Oh, what a powerful, powerful session we've had here
today, and I feel what all ofyou are feeling just a great
burden just to keep praying.
And I want to encourage youwhen we get off this apostolic
mentoring session don't rushthis moment.

(01:01:15):
The Lord is doing something inour hearts and we don't want to
miss it doing something in ourhearts and we don't want to miss
it.
I want to be everything that Ineed to be, to reach as many as
I can reach Whatever God needsto change in me so I can change

(01:01:37):
the world.

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
So let it happen in me so I can change the world.
So let it happen.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
If I've got to get rid of some feelings or some
emotions about things, if I gotto be, if I got to do a
self-assessment, brotherFranklin, to figure out what's
dusty and what's dirty and wherethe shadows are and what,
whatever.
If I've got to move somethingin order to be what God wants me
to be, I want to do it.
I'm so overwhelmed by theconfirmation of this word today,

(01:02:20):
compared and can, just incontrast to our to the word we
received seven days ago inethiopia.
Nobody but our team could haveknown what was spoken on that

(01:02:41):
bus.
God is doing something in thishour that is just so important.
It can't be missed.
I've been talking about youknow how are we going to reach

(01:03:06):
billions?
For years, five years talkingabout equipping millions to
reach billions.
But this is what it's about.
It's not about a method or aplan.
It's about.
It's not about a method or a ora plan.
It's about a transformation inus so we can be what god wants

(01:03:27):
us to be it's about changing theman so we can change the world.
We're so quick to want everybodyelse to change and everything

(01:03:47):
to be fixed.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
And if we just had the right plan.
But it's really about if wejust had the right man, If I
could get over myself and Icould be what God wanted me to
be.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
I better quit talking .

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
I know some of you want to get to praying.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
I love you all so much.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
This is the highlight of my week to be with all of
you.
I can't believe we've beendoing this together for five
years.
Every single week.
I just feel so humbled to be apart of this apostolic mentoring
family and to be a part of thisapostolic mentoring family and

(01:04:42):
to be a part of this globalmission, equipping millions to
reach billions.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
But it can't happen without love, and I better learn
to love.
Oh man, I better get off thiscall.
I won't stop talking.

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
Je vais arrêter l'appel.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
I love you, Brother Franklin.
You are a mighty man of God anda gift to God's global church.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
Thank you, brother Robinette, and I love you as
well and appreciate all that youdo for the kingdom of God.
Only God knows how much you do.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
I want to put those links back here in the chat
before I say goodbye here in thechat before I say goodbye.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
I'll put that special code in here as well.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
I think I did that right.
Did I do that right, BrotherFranklin?
25.
No, 25.
Let me do that right.
I'm sorry friends, my heart isjust jacked up tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
I don't want to have Brother Franklin on again
because he just messes people'sminds up.
It's not helpful.
This stuff messes my mind up aswell, messes me up, we're not
hard.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
We're either really good for each other or really
bad for each other, and it'sstill not clear.
You know, these are the momentsthat sister karenna just quits
translating.
She just feels like it's apersonal conversation and she
doesn't want to get part of it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
And I want to say don't miss the episode that
comes out in two weeks withBrother Robinette.
It is phenomenal.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
Hey, I'm going to tell you something right now.
Every time that BrotherFranklin and I get together, we
cry.
So I don't know, it's nothealthy.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
I think it is healthy .
I think it's a wonderful thing.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
It is.
I feel there's a specialknitting of our hearts for some
great kingdom purpose.
Well, anyhow, we got apostolicmentoring next Tuesday, 1 pm,
eastern Time as always.
Oh God Eastern.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
Time as always, oh God.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
Oh, thank you, God, get off this call, do whatever
you want to do.
Love you, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
Love you.
See you all next week See youSaturday, oh Saturday, love you.
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