November 17, 2025 • 31 mins
We welcome evangelist and author Charles Robinet for a candid talk about despair, deliverance, and the two books that rose from it. From a life-saving phone call to a rallying cry for unity, we trace how prophetic prayer equips individuals and partnership multiplies impact.
• military-to-missions journey across Europe
• church hurt, depression, and a near-suicide moment
• healing through writing Radically Apostolic
• prophetic prayer as speaking Scripture with clarity
• moving from addition to multiplication in ministry
• who the books are for and why they matter now
• Audible and Amazon availability details
• the Partnership of Faith and breaking fear, jealousy, control
• collaboration, cooperation, and communication as growth engines
• Revelation 7:9 as the vision for a global harvest
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SPEAKER_02 (01:17):
Hello, and welcome to another episode of the
Christian Book Tour.
My name is Amy Elizabeth,General Manager of KFXB.
And today I have our nextChristian author, um, evangelist
Charles Robinet has written twobooks that he has with us today.
And I'm really interested inhearing about both of these
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books.
And can you share with theaudience a little bit just about
who you are before we actuallyget into talking about your
books?
SPEAKER_01 (01:46):
Yes, ma'am.
It's such an honor to be withyou.
And it was a joy to be with youon GPS.
And oh my goodness, we had somuch fun talking and just
sharing about the kingdom.
Um, my wife and I have uh beenmarried 31 years, and we started
together in ministry in I was inthe military.
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Um, so we started together firstin the military, but in the
military we got in the ministrytogether, and from there we got
into global missions and becamemissionaries in Belgium first,
where we started our firstchurch in um uh the
Flemish-speaking region ofBelgium.
We started our first church,which is now pastored by one of
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our sons in the gospel, and thenfrom there we traveled to
Switzerland and started thefirst um Jesus-name church in
Geneva, Switzerland, which isalso pastored by one of our sons
in the gospel.
And from there uh we becamemissionaries to Germany and
Austria and Liechtenstein.
And since then, we becameinternational evangelists and
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have traveled all over the placepreaching the gospel and serving
God's people and lifting thearms of his global church and
helping equip and establish hisbody for greater things.
So it's just a joy to be a partof this kingdom journey with so
many great people.
SPEAKER_02 (03:09):
Amen.
And you had plans to do thisyour whole life, right?
SPEAKER_00 (03:12):
Yeah, yeah, yes, yes, yes, Jeremiah chapter one.
SPEAKER_01 (03:17):
Uh before I came out of the womb, God knew me.
No, uh, that's not true.
Um, yeah, no, interesting.
You know, I always wanted to beum uh in the military, which
was, you know, all boys do.
You're like you you're alwaysthinking about the military.
So I grew up with dreams ofbeing in the military and being
a police officer, and I wound upbeing a police officer in the
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military.
So um that was my dream.
It wasn't the kingdom, I had alower dream, and now God has
given me a higher dream.
SPEAKER_02 (03:47):
Amen.
So and here we are with theabundant life in Jesus for his
kingdom and his glory.
SPEAKER_01 (03:53):
Yes, it's an amazing journey.
Yes, amen.
Anybody who doesn't want to be apart of this journey just
doesn't know how good it is.
Yeah, it's so good.
SPEAKER_02 (04:02):
They're not walking the Christian walk the way that
God intended us.
SPEAKER_01 (04:05):
Everything that I've done good in this life came out
of being in the river with theLord, flowing with him.
I I look back over my life and Ilook at all of the good points,
all of these great victories,the places that God has, you
know, we talked about this onGPS, but you know, I mean, as a
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young man, um I didn't know whatI didn't know.
And I just walked in such umlacking and unfulfillment and
discouragement and frustrationand just couldn't seem to get
anywhere until I got in theriver.
And once I got there, the thingsthat God has allowed my wife and
I to do because of his spiritare so far beyond anything I
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could have ever given to myself.
I'm so grateful for his hand onour life, and I look at my
daughters even what God is doingin their lives, and that didn't
come from education, and itdidn't come from money, and it
didn't come from religion.
It came from the river.
That river of living water, andI'm I'm grateful.
I have nothing but thankfulnessin my spirit, and I'm thankful.
SPEAKER_02 (05:17):
Amen.
Jesus.
All right.
Well, let's get into we've gottwo of your books here.
One, first one's calledRadically Apostolic that you
wrote in 2021, correct?
And then the partnership offaith that you published last
year.
Yes, me.
So let's start with RadicallyApostolic, the first book that
you wrote.
Um, tell us a little bit aboutwhy you felt the unction from
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the Holy Spirit to write thatbook, maybe um who your audience
is for.
SPEAKER_01 (05:44):
Sure.
Um, I really can't even believeI'm gonna say this out loud uh
because I never have.
Um, but Amy and I talked aboutthis in our GPS episode more in
detail.
But in 2019, um I went through areally uh discouraging season
and became very umbrokenhearted.
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I had suffered a lot ofrejection.
Um I had felt um just very hurtby I had church hurt, okay?
Um very real church hurt, and Icouldn't process the church
hurt, and I couldn't figure outhow to get past it.
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And because I wasn't in theriver, the pain had drawn me out
of the river, and because I gotout of the river, I started
hearing the enemy more clearly,and the enemy was saying, You're
useless, you have no value, youuh, you you you're you're
nothing, and the best thing youcould do is take your own life.
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And so I'm hearing these thesevoices, and I'm fighting these
this voice of the enemy, and I'mnot flowing in the spirit, but
I've I've opened up myself tothis to this voice of the enemy,
and I remember um you know goingand making some very bad
decisions, deciding that theonly way out was to take my own
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life.
And um, you know, I'm not gonnatell the whole story.
If you want the story, I guessyou go back to the GPS episode.
I don't even know if we recordedthat part.
SPEAKER_02 (07:22):
It wasn't recorded, no, you were sharing it with me.
Yeah, it was private.
SPEAKER_01 (07:26):
Um but I remember standing on a bridge and I was
about to take my own life and myphone rang, and it was a um man
of God from Oslo, Norway, namedJüren Andreasan, and it was late
in the early morning of the nextday where he was, late in the
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evening where I was, and theLord woke Brother Andreasan up
in the night and said, CallCharles Robinet and tell him to
stop.
And I'm standing on a bridge, Ianswered the phone, and it's
Brother Andreasan, and he said,Brother Robinet, I don't know
where you are, what you'redoing, what decision you're
about to make, but God said,Stop.
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God said, You are valuable tothe kingdom.
And brother Andreas son startedpraying for me on that bridge,
and it prayed me out ofdepression, prayed me out of the
spirit of suicide, prayed me outof a bad decision.
I go back to Berlin, Germany, amess.
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I'm just a mess of a man of God.
And the Lord spoke to me inGermany and said, I'm going to
heal you through writing.
And I began to write.
And I have a high schooleducation.
Um, so it's not like it wassomething within my fleshly
means to do.
It was a spirit-led thing.
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God said, I'm gonna heal youthrough writing.
And long story short, I startedwriting this book radically
apostolic, and through writingthis book, God just he healed my
heart, stripped depression awayfrom me, stripped fear away from
me, he stripped that suicidalspirit away from me.
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And out of this book came afaith again, an awakening of
faith.
And really the purpose of thisbook for God's global church was
to get the individual ready.
So many of us talked aboutwanting to be used of God, but
we don't know the steps to getthere.
And God gave me in this book thesteps for his global army to
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step into that propheticministry, to step into that
faith ministry, to see thingsbeyond addition, to see
multiplication in the kingdom,to step into the gifts of the
spirit, to step into thefive-fold ministry.
This book was given for God'sglobal army to get themselves
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ready for these last days wherewe're going to see billions,
billions get in the river, startbeing filled with the spirit,
start walking in that kingdomcalling, walking in that kingdom
anointing, walking in thosedimensions that have seemed so
out of reach because you weretrusting in the arm of the
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flesh.
God put the keys to walking inthe spirit in this book.
And I talk about everything fromsubmission to humility to
prophetic prayer, and that's akey element.
You can't have the great thingsin the kingdom if you're praying
in the flesh.
You got to get out of the fleshinto prophetic prayers where
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you're speaking the things thatare not as if they already are.
That's verbally.
Yes, it's kingdom verbiage whereyou're prophetically saying the
Lord said.
Yes.
You can't have what God has saidif you're not speaking what God
has said.
You gotta prophesy.
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That's that whole Ezekielchapter 37 thing where God said,
What do you see?
And he said, I don't know.
I'm a little intimidated, I'm alittle insecure.
And God said, Well, why don'tyou prophesy?
Yes.
And then God said, Prophesythis.
He didn't tell him to getcreative, he said, prophesy
these words.
Ezekiel didn't get creative.
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Ezekiel prophesied what Godsaid.
SPEAKER_02 (11:27):
What he heard God say, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (11:28):
That's the whole strategy of the word of God.
Every one of your viewers shouldbe opening the word of God up
and saying, Thus saith the Lord.
I prophesy I'm the head and notthe tail.
I prophesy I'm above and I'mnever beneath.
I prophesy that these signsshall follow them that believe.
In my name shall they cast outdevils.
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You gotta get a hold of theprophetic word of God and say, I
don't want to just read it.
I want to speak it.
I want to speak the things thatGod has said until I see it with
my own eyes.
And that is a strategy that's inradically apostolic.
It teaches your viewers andGod's global army to prophesy
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the word.
Get in line with what God isdoing in these last days.
Don't just read it, say it.
Don't just say it, see it.
You're gonna step intodimensions that are so far
beyond your wildest expectation.
You're gonna see greater thingsthan these.
And so God wanted me to writethat book, not just to heal me,
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but to heal his global army,that it was operating well below
their kingdom expectation.
I want to be what God wants meto be, not what I'm comfortable
being.
SPEAKER_02 (12:42):
Praise God.
Praise the Lord.
Well, first of all, I just wantto say thank you for being so
transparent in sharing with theaudience, you know, where you
are at and and the um what ledyou to write that book because
so many people um don't talkabout it.
Yes, ma'am.
And it's very the spirit ofsuicide is very prevalent these
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days.
And it's um destroying familiesand destroying lives, and it's
destroying God's destiny onpeople.
Oh yes.
SPEAKER_01 (13:09):
And um, and I would have never thought, Amy, I would
have never thought that I couldhave been there.
It it seemed so far.
How do people get in that place?
But it's happening.
And in this day and age wherethings are so discouraging and
so frustrating and confusing,people are depressed and the
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enemy is whispering in it all.
And yet God has a future for youthat is so filled with hope and
faith and power that if you givehim a chance, he's gonna turn it
all around and you're gonna seethings that are beyond your
wildest expectations.
And I think about the doors thatGod has set before my family in
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these last days, and it all cameout of that deliverance from
depression, deliverance fromsuicide, deliverance from fear,
how God took me from an accidentwaiting to happen to a future
that has no bounds and ceilingsthat are unlimited.
SPEAKER_02 (14:15):
Praise the Lord.
Well, I I thank him for yourlife, and I thank him that he
sent someone that was obedientto make the call.
Amen.
Answered the call of God and tomake the call to the city.
Saved my soul.
So, yeah, I just praise the Lordfor that, man, and and for your
life and for what he's continuedto use you for.
So it's it's amazing andbeautiful, and you've been a
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blessing to have in this studiotoday.
And um, so share with ouraudience a little bit more about
Radically Apostolic.
Why should somebody pick thatbook up?
SPEAKER_01 (14:48):
Oh my goodness, there's not anybody in this
kingdom today.
Doesn't matter what whatreligion you are, what you're
associated with, there's nobodyin this hour who is not feeling
the drawing of the voice of theLord who's saying, Hey, come out
on the water.
Let's go a little further, let'sget a little deeper.
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You are there's not a person inthis world that's not feeling
that unction of the spiritsaying, Come.
If it's you, Lord, bid me tocome.
And you're hearing the voicesaying, Come, and you don't know
what to do, you don't know howto step, you don't know how to
get there.
This book is going to help youget out into that realm of the
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spirit, the deep waters of thespirit that's going to change
your life, your ministry, yourfamily, your future, your hope.
This book is what you've beenlooking for.
It's gonna, it's gonna help you.
It'll bless you.
It's blessed me writing it.
And I've read it so many times.
I've read it myself.
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Even the other day I was readingit on an airplane, I think
coming back from Mongolia, and Iwas just kind of reminding
myself about some things that Ifelt like, you know, maybe I
need to get right again.
And so this will help you becomewhat God wants you to be.
SPEAKER_02 (16:10):
Awesome.
Well, um, I think that anybodythat has written a book and it's
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been completely led by the HolyGhost can attest to the fact
that you don't even rememberwhat you put in the book.
Because I know when I wrote myfirst book, I wrote it in 45
days.
Wow.
It wasn't my idea.
Wow.
I was like, Lord, I don't evenknow why I'm writing this, but I
know you're in it, and so I'mgonna do it.
I wrote it in 45 days, and Istill I'll hand it out to people
and and think, I I don't evenremember what's in this book,
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but I feel like you're supposedto read it.
So here you go, and I'll go backand I'll read it, and and I
won't remember the things that Iwrote in it because it was
completely Holy Spirit led.
So that's I mean, your own bookis ministering to you even now.
SPEAKER_01 (17:55):
It's true.
SPEAKER_02 (17:56):
So it's true.
That's amazing.
Um, what's one of the what's oneof your favorite things that you
wrote in there?
SPEAKER_01 (18:02):
I would say that probably um my favorite chapter
in the book is the book onprophecy.
That to me, uh prophetic prayer,um, that was a revelation that
changed my wife and I's life andministry.
Um, a lot of times people walkwith this um this very um
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limited vision, obscure type ofGod's gonna do great things, but
never really articulating whatyou're expecting him to do.
A lot of times we are so fearfulthat he can't do it that we
water it down, we mitigate theability to make it generic so
that man, if we hit anything,we'll win what a victory.
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Right.
But God has so many greaterthings for his people that if we
would just believe him, trusthim, and prophesy as he's saying
to prophesy.
People think you have to be aprophet to prophesy the word,
but that's not true.
The word of God is prophetic.
If you will loose it and seed itinto the atmosphere, it will
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bear much fruit.
That revelation alone is wortheverything that was ever written
in that book.
That God would open my eyes andmy wife and I's eyes and our
children's eyes to the power ofprophetic prayer.
That's that's the game changer.
So good.
Oh, I will tell you this.
Um it's also available onAudible.
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And I read it myself.
And people, um, interestingly,Audible came a year later.
So there was a testimony in thebook that was incomplete because
we didn't know what was gonnahappen a year later.
But in the Audible, I got totell the rest of the story.
So it is kind of cool.
Uh, the Audible is awesome.
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Both of these books areavailable on Amazon, of course.
Um, I think Radically Apostolicis also available at Barnes and
Noble and anywhere, but both areavailable on Amazon.
But uh the Audible of RadicallyApostolic is already done, and
the Audible of Partnership ofFaith will be done by September
next year.
Awesome.
SPEAKER_02 (20:11):
Well, and you've got a great voice, so that's good to
hear you read your own story.
So, well, let's switch to uh thesecond book, The Partnership of
Faith.
Wow.
And I I have kind of the samequestions for that book then.
What, you know, why did youwrite that book?
What's it about?
Who's it for?
SPEAKER_01 (20:27):
Yeah, so this book was for us individually, for
God's army individually, so youcould become what you are
supposed to become so we can seewhat God wants us to see.
But this book dealt with uscollectively.
Uh we talked about it on GPS,which I really loved our time
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together.
I want to say that again.
That was amazing.
Spirit-led beast modeconversation.
Uh, if you don't want beast modeconversation, kingdom stuff,
don't watch that one.
Uh, we had such a great time,but you need to watch it.
Um but this dealt with God'scollective army, that whole
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community of believers globally.
And I told you in that one ofthose episodes, God spoke to me
about the three spirits that weare warned against: the spirit
of fear, spirit of jealousy, andthe spirit of control that's
keeping us all boxed in.
You do your thing, I'll do mything, my four walls, my
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revival, my church, my city,nobody else.
If the smoke isn't coming frommy chimney, it's not real.
And this whole mentality that'skeeping God's global church in
addition, when God is trying togive us multiplication, when
God's trying to move us intostadiums and millions and
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billions being born again.
And so God had me write thisbook to counter the culture, the
tradition, and the religionthat's keeping us so isolated
when God is wanting us to worktogether.
And so the subtitle of thisbigger net catches more fish.
It does.
Why does it work?
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And you think about that, theyneeded more boats to get more
fish, and they couldn't hold itthemselves.
This is this is a kingdomprinciple that's so I mean, so
biblical.
SPEAKER_02 (22:19):
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (22:19):
Um, the subtitle of this book is The Power of
Collaboration, Cooperation, andCommunication.
This is so critical that peoplecan sit down like this.
Okay?
Me and you.
We didn't know each other beforetoday, okay?
We knew of each other, but wemet each other today, and yet
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there's this connection, there'sthis kingdom knitting of hearts.
There was this willingness tocollaborate on the kingdom
together and to cooperate on thekingdom together.
And now we're talking aboutgoing on crusades together and
it's about the kingdom, right?
SPEAKER_02 (22:59):
It's not about kingdom.
Not religion.
SPEAKER_01 (23:01):
It's not about my ministry, it's not about God,
his mission, his vision, thewhole gospel to the whole world
by the whole church together,unity, power.
So this is the key.
Collaboration, cooperation,communication.
I want to be buildingpartnerships, the partnership of
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faith.
I the Lord wants us to findways.
I I'm not, I don't want to bepolitical.
I'm not political.
I'm I'm a really bad politician.
Um I'm not made for it.
I'm not trained for it.
I don't have the education forit.
Um, but I'm looking at thisCharlie Kirk situation.
You don't have to like him, youdon't have to love him, I don't
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even care.
That is not the topic ofconversation.
But here's the reality somehow,this guy's morality, this guy's
mission, this guy's challenging,the the status quo has created
this communical gathering whereeverybody could gather in a
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stadium together, and it didn'tmatter if we were Baptist,
Catholic, Pentecostal, Lutheran,everybody is in a stadium
together calling on the name ofthe Lord.
And and there was thispartnership.
I I don't I'm I'm notcelebrating his death.
I I how tragic that this man hadto give his life to bring
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multitudes together.
Okay, but he did.
I was in Mongolia when CharlieKirk.
Yes, oh wow, yes.
I was in Mongolia when CharlieKirk was was murdered, and my
daughter, my youngest daughterBrie, who is an author as well,
uh, just a beautiful young mindand young kingdom person, uh, 17
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years old, put out her firstbook, and she's so cool.
Um, but uh she just preached herfirst message on Sunday in
Michigan.
SPEAKER_02 (24:57):
Oh, awesome!
SPEAKER_01 (24:58):
So proud of her.
She preached a ladies'conference, and she preached
about the call of God.
I love it.
And I was so proud of thatlittle baby.
Um, but anyhow, she called me inMongolia and she was crying.
And she said, you know, this hasso destabilized her emotionally,
the loss of Charlie Kirk.
And um, and she wasn't really afollower, but it just hit her so
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hard that this could happen.
First person she'd ever reallyseen assassinated or murdered or
whatever, you know, that sheknew of.
And she said to me, She said,Daddy, what do we do now?
And uh the Lord quickened myspirit to that old statement.
I think Alexander Hamiltonreally deserves the credit for
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the statement.
I've heard that there were otherpeople who coined it in another
way.
Um, people like Malcolm X evensaid it in some way or another.
But the statement was if youdon't stand for something, you
will surely fall for everything.
And on the phone, I said, baby,here's the deal.
Charlie Kirk was not trying tobuild a platin platform for
himself.
He wasn't trying to build a namefor himself.
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What he was really trying to dowas to create an army that had
conviction.
I said, What are you gonna donow?
Post Charlie Kirk.
Who are you gonna be?
What are you standing for?
What convictions do you have inyour heart?
SPEAKER_02 (26:17):
I said, Because it's not about Charlie Kirk in the
end, it's about Jesus.
SPEAKER_01 (26:21):
It's about Jesus.
What are you gonna do for God?
Yeah, okay, you lived in theshadow of this guy who was bold
and he was great, and that'sawesome, but he's gone.
What about you?
Who fills the void?
Who fills the vacuum?
I said, baby, if you don't standfor something, you're gonna fall
for everything in this world.
I said, but if you stand forChrist, so I think it's so
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important when we're talkingabout the partnership of faith
that we all square our shouldersand we find a way to
collaborate, to communicate, totalk, to do big things in the
kingdom together because it'snot about Baptist, it's not
about AOG, it's not about theUPCI or the WPF or the ALGC.
Guess what?
It's about Revelation 7 and 9.
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It's about a great multitudethat no man can number that's
standing before the throne.
So how are we gonna do this?
You think you're gonna do it byyourself?
No.
You think I'm gonna do it bymyself?
Not a chance.
But if we could find a way tocollaborate and cooperate and
communicate about the kingdomand not isolate ourselves, but
unify in this moment.
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Link arms.
Gosh, when that trumpet sounds,it's gonna be bigger than we
could have imagined.
That is my dream is that God'svictory would be so great and so
global and so mighty that nobodygets the credit but him.
That's why we wrote Partnershipof Faith.
SPEAKER_02 (27:45):
I love that.
That's my heart too.
You know, in the job that I havehere, it's all about connecting
people for the kingdom andnetworking.
Yes.
And I even, before I even tookthis job, I had a prophetic word
spoken over me about um, youremember that old uh, I think it
was a Coca-Cola commercial, andthere was a they were standing
on top of a hill and they wereall linking arms together and
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they were singing about theworld being united together.
And I've had a prophet in mychurch speak that over me, and
he said, You're gonna beconnecting and networking.
And so that's my heart.
I love that.
That's the the vision for thatbook is just to bring the body
of Christ together and link armsbecause it's not about us and
our ministry, it's aboutexpanding the gospel.
SPEAKER_01 (28:29):
That is the trick of the enemy.
Isolation is the key to theenemy's destruction.
Yeah.
But if we could fight that, linkarms.
You just revealed how old weare.
You know, right?
SPEAKER_00 (28:42):
That yeah, that Coca-Cola commercial that's old.
I'm not gonna say our age, butyou just revealed it.
SPEAKER_02 (28:51):
Well, we have about one minute before we wrap up.
Can you pick like one highlightout of this second book to share
with the audience?
SPEAKER_01 (28:59):
Yeah, you know, um, for me, for me, the greatest
takeaway of this book is thatwhole Revelation 7 and 9
argument.
Really, that's the heartbeat.
That was why God said to writethis book.
When God spoke about what it'sgonna look like post-rapture,
post-white throne, when we'restanding before him, those who
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have washed their robes in theblood of the Lamb, and they have
been born again of the water andof the Spirit, and they have
been caught up to meet him inthe air, and that multitude is
so great and so mighty beyondanything we can imagine, can't
be numbered.
Every tribe, every nation, everyculture.
Yes.
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That is to me the takeaway thatif we can just swallow our
pride, put away carnality, linkarms, join in the partnership of
faith, jump in the river, bepart of the multitude.
It's gonna happen.
SPEAKER_02 (29:55):
Amen.
Thanks for joining us foranother episode of the Christian
Book Tour.
Hello, and welcome to another episode of the
Christian Book Tour.
My name is Amy Elizabeth,General Manager of KFXB.
And today I have our nextChristian author, um, evangelist
Charles Robinet has written twobooks that he has with us today.
And I'm really interested inhearing about both of these
(01:39):
books.
And can you share with theaudience a little bit just about
who you are before we actuallyget into talking about your
books?
SPEAKER_01 (01:46):
Yes, ma'am.
It's such an honor to be withyou.
And it was a joy to be with youon GPS.
And oh my goodness, we had somuch fun talking and just
sharing about the kingdom.
Um, my wife and I have uh beenmarried 31 years, and we started
together in ministry in I was inthe military.
(02:08):
Um, so we started together firstin the military, but in the
military we got in the ministrytogether, and from there we got
into global missions and becamemissionaries in Belgium first,
where we started our firstchurch in um uh the
Flemish-speaking region ofBelgium.
We started our first church,which is now pastored by one of
(02:30):
our sons in the gospel, and thenfrom there we traveled to
Switzerland and started thefirst um Jesus-name church in
Geneva, Switzerland, which isalso pastored by one of our sons
in the gospel.
And from there uh we becamemissionaries to Germany and
Austria and Liechtenstein.
And since then, we becameinternational evangelists and
(02:53):
have traveled all over the placepreaching the gospel and serving
God's people and lifting thearms of his global church and
helping equip and establish hisbody for greater things.
So it's just a joy to be a partof this kingdom journey with so
many great people.
SPEAKER_02 (03:09):
Amen.
And you had plans to do thisyour whole life, right?
SPEAKER_00 (03:12):
Yeah, yeah, yes, yes, yes, Jeremiah chapter one.
SPEAKER_01 (03:17):
Uh before I came out of the womb, God knew me.
No, uh, that's not true.
Um, yeah, no, interesting.
You know, I always wanted to beum uh in the military, which
was, you know, all boys do.
You're like you you're alwaysthinking about the military.
So I grew up with dreams ofbeing in the military and being
a police officer, and I wound upbeing a police officer in the
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military.
So um that was my dream.
It wasn't the kingdom, I had alower dream, and now God has
given me a higher dream.
SPEAKER_02 (03:47):
Amen.
So and here we are with theabundant life in Jesus for his
kingdom and his glory.
SPEAKER_01 (03:53):
Yes, it's an amazing journey.
Yes, amen.
Anybody who doesn't want to be apart of this journey just
doesn't know how good it is.
Yeah, it's so good.
SPEAKER_02 (04:02):
They're not walking the Christian walk the way that
God intended us.
SPEAKER_01 (04:05):
Everything that I've done good in this life came out
of being in the river with theLord, flowing with him.
I I look back over my life and Ilook at all of the good points,
all of these great victories,the places that God has, you
know, we talked about this onGPS, but you know, I mean, as a
(04:28):
young man, um I didn't know whatI didn't know.
And I just walked in such umlacking and unfulfillment and
discouragement and frustrationand just couldn't seem to get
anywhere until I got in theriver.
And once I got there, the thingsthat God has allowed my wife and
I to do because of his spiritare so far beyond anything I
(04:53):
could have ever given to myself.
I'm so grateful for his hand onour life, and I look at my
daughters even what God is doingin their lives, and that didn't
come from education, and itdidn't come from money, and it
didn't come from religion.
It came from the river.
That river of living water, andI'm I'm grateful.
I have nothing but thankfulnessin my spirit, and I'm thankful.
SPEAKER_02 (05:17):
Amen.
Jesus.
All right.
Well, let's get into we've gottwo of your books here.
One, first one's calledRadically Apostolic that you
wrote in 2021, correct?
And then the partnership offaith that you published last
year.
Yes, me.
So let's start with RadicallyApostolic, the first book that
you wrote.
Um, tell us a little bit aboutwhy you felt the unction from
(05:39):
the Holy Spirit to write thatbook, maybe um who your audience
is for.
SPEAKER_01 (05:44):
Sure.
Um, I really can't even believeI'm gonna say this out loud uh
because I never have.
Um, but Amy and I talked aboutthis in our GPS episode more in
detail.
But in 2019, um I went through areally uh discouraging season
and became very umbrokenhearted.
(06:07):
I had suffered a lot ofrejection.
Um I had felt um just very hurtby I had church hurt, okay?
Um very real church hurt, and Icouldn't process the church
hurt, and I couldn't figure outhow to get past it.
(06:27):
And because I wasn't in theriver, the pain had drawn me out
of the river, and because I gotout of the river, I started
hearing the enemy more clearly,and the enemy was saying, You're
useless, you have no value, youuh, you you you're you're
nothing, and the best thing youcould do is take your own life.
(06:49):
And so I'm hearing these thesevoices, and I'm fighting these
this voice of the enemy, and I'mnot flowing in the spirit, but
I've I've opened up myself tothis to this voice of the enemy,
and I remember um you know goingand making some very bad
decisions, deciding that theonly way out was to take my own
(07:13):
life.
And um, you know, I'm not gonnatell the whole story.
If you want the story, I guessyou go back to the GPS episode.
I don't even know if we recordedthat part.
SPEAKER_02 (07:22):
It wasn't recorded, no, you were sharing it with me.
Yeah, it was private.
SPEAKER_01 (07:26):
Um but I remember standing on a bridge and I was
about to take my own life and myphone rang, and it was a um man
of God from Oslo, Norway, namedJüren Andreasan, and it was late
in the early morning of the nextday where he was, late in the
(07:46):
evening where I was, and theLord woke Brother Andreasan up
in the night and said, CallCharles Robinet and tell him to
stop.
And I'm standing on a bridge, Ianswered the phone, and it's
Brother Andreasan, and he said,Brother Robinet, I don't know
where you are, what you'redoing, what decision you're
about to make, but God said,Stop.
(08:08):
God said, You are valuable tothe kingdom.
And brother Andreas son startedpraying for me on that bridge,
and it prayed me out ofdepression, prayed me out of the
spirit of suicide, prayed me outof a bad decision.
I go back to Berlin, Germany, amess.
(08:28):
I'm just a mess of a man of God.
And the Lord spoke to me inGermany and said, I'm going to
heal you through writing.
And I began to write.
And I have a high schooleducation.
Um, so it's not like it wassomething within my fleshly
means to do.
It was a spirit-led thing.
(08:50):
God said, I'm gonna heal youthrough writing.
And long story short, I startedwriting this book radically
apostolic, and through writingthis book, God just he healed my
heart, stripped depression awayfrom me, stripped fear away from
me, he stripped that suicidalspirit away from me.
(09:13):
And out of this book came afaith again, an awakening of
faith.
And really the purpose of thisbook for God's global church was
to get the individual ready.
So many of us talked aboutwanting to be used of God, but
we don't know the steps to getthere.
And God gave me in this book thesteps for his global army to
(09:36):
step into that propheticministry, to step into that
faith ministry, to see thingsbeyond addition, to see
multiplication in the kingdom,to step into the gifts of the
spirit, to step into thefive-fold ministry.
This book was given for God'sglobal army to get themselves
(09:57):
ready for these last days wherewe're going to see billions,
billions get in the river, startbeing filled with the spirit,
start walking in that kingdomcalling, walking in that kingdom
anointing, walking in thosedimensions that have seemed so
out of reach because you weretrusting in the arm of the
(10:19):
flesh.
God put the keys to walking inthe spirit in this book.
And I talk about everything fromsubmission to humility to
prophetic prayer, and that's akey element.
You can't have the great thingsin the kingdom if you're praying
in the flesh.
You got to get out of the fleshinto prophetic prayers where
(10:43):
you're speaking the things thatare not as if they already are.
That's verbally.
Yes, it's kingdom verbiage whereyou're prophetically saying the
Lord said.
Yes.
You can't have what God has saidif you're not speaking what God
has said.
You gotta prophesy.
(11:03):
That's that whole Ezekielchapter 37 thing where God said,
What do you see?
And he said, I don't know.
I'm a little intimidated, I'm alittle insecure.
And God said, Well, why don'tyou prophesy?
Yes.
And then God said, Prophesythis.
He didn't tell him to getcreative, he said, prophesy
these words.
Ezekiel didn't get creative.
(11:24):
Ezekiel prophesied what Godsaid.
SPEAKER_02 (11:27):
What he heard God say, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (11:28):
That's the whole strategy of the word of God.
Every one of your viewers shouldbe opening the word of God up
and saying, Thus saith the Lord.
I prophesy I'm the head and notthe tail.
I prophesy I'm above and I'mnever beneath.
I prophesy that these signsshall follow them that believe.
In my name shall they cast outdevils.
(11:49):
You gotta get a hold of theprophetic word of God and say, I
don't want to just read it.
I want to speak it.
I want to speak the things thatGod has said until I see it with
my own eyes.
And that is a strategy that's inradically apostolic.
It teaches your viewers andGod's global army to prophesy
(12:10):
the word.
Get in line with what God isdoing in these last days.
Don't just read it, say it.
Don't just say it, see it.
You're gonna step intodimensions that are so far
beyond your wildest expectation.
You're gonna see greater thingsthan these.
And so God wanted me to writethat book, not just to heal me,
(12:31):
but to heal his global army,that it was operating well below
their kingdom expectation.
I want to be what God wants meto be, not what I'm comfortable
being.
SPEAKER_02 (12:42):
Praise God.
Praise the Lord.
Well, first of all, I just wantto say thank you for being so
transparent in sharing with theaudience, you know, where you
are at and and the um what ledyou to write that book because
so many people um don't talkabout it.
Yes, ma'am.
And it's very the spirit ofsuicide is very prevalent these
(13:02):
days.
And it's um destroying familiesand destroying lives, and it's
destroying God's destiny onpeople.
Oh yes.
SPEAKER_01 (13:09):
And um, and I would have never thought, Amy, I would
have never thought that I couldhave been there.
It it seemed so far.
How do people get in that place?
But it's happening.
And in this day and age wherethings are so discouraging and
so frustrating and confusing,people are depressed and the
(13:32):
enemy is whispering in it all.
And yet God has a future for youthat is so filled with hope and
faith and power that if you givehim a chance, he's gonna turn it
all around and you're gonna seethings that are beyond your
wildest expectations.
And I think about the doors thatGod has set before my family in
(13:56):
these last days, and it all cameout of that deliverance from
depression, deliverance fromsuicide, deliverance from fear,
how God took me from an accidentwaiting to happen to a future
that has no bounds and ceilingsthat are unlimited.
SPEAKER_02 (14:15):
Praise the Lord.
Well, I I thank him for yourlife, and I thank him that he
sent someone that was obedientto make the call.
Amen.
Answered the call of God and tomake the call to the city.
Saved my soul.
So, yeah, I just praise the Lordfor that, man, and and for your
life and for what he's continuedto use you for.
So it's it's amazing andbeautiful, and you've been a
(14:37):
blessing to have in this studiotoday.
And um, so share with ouraudience a little bit more about
Radically Apostolic.
Why should somebody pick thatbook up?
SPEAKER_01 (14:48):
Oh my goodness, there's not anybody in this
kingdom today.
Doesn't matter what whatreligion you are, what you're
associated with, there's nobodyin this hour who is not feeling
the drawing of the voice of theLord who's saying, Hey, come out
on the water.
Let's go a little further, let'sget a little deeper.
(15:11):
You are there's not a person inthis world that's not feeling
that unction of the spiritsaying, Come.
If it's you, Lord, bid me tocome.
And you're hearing the voicesaying, Come, and you don't know
what to do, you don't know howto step, you don't know how to
get there.
This book is going to help youget out into that realm of the
(15:34):
spirit, the deep waters of thespirit that's going to change
your life, your ministry, yourfamily, your future, your hope.
This book is what you've beenlooking for.
It's gonna, it's gonna help you.
It'll bless you.
It's blessed me writing it.
And I've read it so many times.
I've read it myself.
(15:56):
Even the other day I was readingit on an airplane, I think
coming back from Mongolia, and Iwas just kind of reminding
myself about some things that Ifelt like, you know, maybe I
need to get right again.
And so this will help you becomewhat God wants you to be.
SPEAKER_02 (16:10):
Awesome.
Well, um, I think that anybodythat has written a book and it's
(17:19):
been completely led by the HolyGhost can attest to the fact
that you don't even rememberwhat you put in the book.
Because I know when I wrote myfirst book, I wrote it in 45
days.
Wow.
It wasn't my idea.
Wow.
I was like, Lord, I don't evenknow why I'm writing this, but I
know you're in it, and so I'mgonna do it.
I wrote it in 45 days, and Istill I'll hand it out to people
and and think, I I don't evenremember what's in this book,
(17:43):
but I feel like you're supposedto read it.
So here you go, and I'll go backand I'll read it, and and I
won't remember the things that Iwrote in it because it was
completely Holy Spirit led.
So that's I mean, your own bookis ministering to you even now.
SPEAKER_01 (17:55):
It's true.
SPEAKER_02 (17:56):
So it's true.
That's amazing.
Um, what's one of the what's oneof your favorite things that you
wrote in there?
SPEAKER_01 (18:02):
I would say that probably um my favorite chapter
in the book is the book onprophecy.
That to me, uh prophetic prayer,um, that was a revelation that
changed my wife and I's life andministry.
Um, a lot of times people walkwith this um this very um
(18:27):
limited vision, obscure type ofGod's gonna do great things, but
never really articulating whatyou're expecting him to do.
A lot of times we are so fearfulthat he can't do it that we
water it down, we mitigate theability to make it generic so
that man, if we hit anything,we'll win what a victory.
(18:49):
Right.
But God has so many greaterthings for his people that if we
would just believe him, trusthim, and prophesy as he's saying
to prophesy.
People think you have to be aprophet to prophesy the word,
but that's not true.
The word of God is prophetic.
If you will loose it and seed itinto the atmosphere, it will
(19:12):
bear much fruit.
That revelation alone is wortheverything that was ever written
in that book.
That God would open my eyes andmy wife and I's eyes and our
children's eyes to the power ofprophetic prayer.
That's that's the game changer.
So good.
Oh, I will tell you this.
Um it's also available onAudible.
(19:34):
And I read it myself.
And people, um, interestingly,Audible came a year later.
So there was a testimony in thebook that was incomplete because
we didn't know what was gonnahappen a year later.
But in the Audible, I got totell the rest of the story.
So it is kind of cool.
Uh, the Audible is awesome.
(19:54):
Both of these books areavailable on Amazon, of course.
Um, I think Radically Apostolicis also available at Barnes and
Noble and anywhere, but both areavailable on Amazon.
But uh the Audible of RadicallyApostolic is already done, and
the Audible of Partnership ofFaith will be done by September
next year.
Awesome.
SPEAKER_02 (20:11):
Well, and you've got a great voice, so that's good to
hear you read your own story.
So, well, let's switch to uh thesecond book, The Partnership of
Faith.
Wow.
And I I have kind of the samequestions for that book then.
What, you know, why did youwrite that book?
What's it about?
Who's it for?
SPEAKER_01 (20:27):
Yeah, so this book was for us individually, for
God's army individually, so youcould become what you are
supposed to become so we can seewhat God wants us to see.
But this book dealt with uscollectively.
Uh we talked about it on GPS,which I really loved our time
(20:48):
together.
I want to say that again.
That was amazing.
Spirit-led beast modeconversation.
Uh, if you don't want beast modeconversation, kingdom stuff,
don't watch that one.
Uh, we had such a great time,but you need to watch it.
Um but this dealt with God'scollective army, that whole
(21:08):
community of believers globally.
And I told you in that one ofthose episodes, God spoke to me
about the three spirits that weare warned against: the spirit
of fear, spirit of jealousy, andthe spirit of control that's
keeping us all boxed in.
You do your thing, I'll do mything, my four walls, my
(21:28):
revival, my church, my city,nobody else.
If the smoke isn't coming frommy chimney, it's not real.
And this whole mentality that'skeeping God's global church in
addition, when God is trying togive us multiplication, when
God's trying to move us intostadiums and millions and
(21:49):
billions being born again.
And so God had me write thisbook to counter the culture, the
tradition, and the religionthat's keeping us so isolated
when God is wanting us to worktogether.
And so the subtitle of thisbigger net catches more fish.
It does.
Why does it work?
(22:10):
And you think about that, theyneeded more boats to get more
fish, and they couldn't hold itthemselves.
This is this is a kingdomprinciple that's so I mean, so
biblical.
SPEAKER_02 (22:19):
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (22:19):
Um, the subtitle of this book is The Power of
Collaboration, Cooperation, andCommunication.
This is so critical that peoplecan sit down like this.
Okay?
Me and you.
We didn't know each other beforetoday, okay?
We knew of each other, but wemet each other today, and yet
(22:42):
there's this connection, there'sthis kingdom knitting of hearts.
There was this willingness tocollaborate on the kingdom
together and to cooperate on thekingdom together.
And now we're talking aboutgoing on crusades together and
it's about the kingdom, right?
SPEAKER_02 (22:59):
It's not about kingdom.
Not religion.
SPEAKER_01 (23:01):
It's not about my ministry, it's not about God,
his mission, his vision, thewhole gospel to the whole world
by the whole church together,unity, power.
So this is the key.
Collaboration, cooperation,communication.
I want to be buildingpartnerships, the partnership of
(23:21):
faith.
I the Lord wants us to findways.
I I'm not, I don't want to bepolitical.
I'm not political.
I'm I'm a really bad politician.
Um I'm not made for it.
I'm not trained for it.
I don't have the education forit.
Um, but I'm looking at thisCharlie Kirk situation.
You don't have to like him, youdon't have to love him, I don't
(23:42):
even care.
That is not the topic ofconversation.
But here's the reality somehow,this guy's morality, this guy's
mission, this guy's challenging,the the status quo has created
this communical gathering whereeverybody could gather in a
(24:04):
stadium together, and it didn'tmatter if we were Baptist,
Catholic, Pentecostal, Lutheran,everybody is in a stadium
together calling on the name ofthe Lord.
And and there was thispartnership.
I I don't I'm I'm notcelebrating his death.
I I how tragic that this man hadto give his life to bring
(24:26):
multitudes together.
Okay, but he did.
I was in Mongolia when CharlieKirk.
Yes, oh wow, yes.
I was in Mongolia when CharlieKirk was was murdered, and my
daughter, my youngest daughterBrie, who is an author as well,
uh, just a beautiful young mindand young kingdom person, uh, 17
(24:49):
years old, put out her firstbook, and she's so cool.
Um, but uh she just preached herfirst message on Sunday in
Michigan.
SPEAKER_02 (24:57):
Oh, awesome!
SPEAKER_01 (24:58):
So proud of her.
She preached a ladies'conference, and she preached
about the call of God.
I love it.
And I was so proud of thatlittle baby.
Um, but anyhow, she called me inMongolia and she was crying.
And she said, you know, this hasso destabilized her emotionally,
the loss of Charlie Kirk.
And um, and she wasn't really afollower, but it just hit her so
(25:22):
hard that this could happen.
First person she'd ever reallyseen assassinated or murdered or
whatever, you know, that sheknew of.
And she said to me, She said,Daddy, what do we do now?
And uh the Lord quickened myspirit to that old statement.
I think Alexander Hamiltonreally deserves the credit for
(25:43):
the statement.
I've heard that there were otherpeople who coined it in another
way.
Um, people like Malcolm X evensaid it in some way or another.
But the statement was if youdon't stand for something, you
will surely fall for everything.
And on the phone, I said, baby,here's the deal.
Charlie Kirk was not trying tobuild a platin platform for
himself.
He wasn't trying to build a namefor himself.
(26:04):
What he was really trying to dowas to create an army that had
conviction.
I said, What are you gonna donow?
Post Charlie Kirk.
Who are you gonna be?
What are you standing for?
What convictions do you have inyour heart?
SPEAKER_02 (26:17):
I said, Because it's not about Charlie Kirk in the
end, it's about Jesus.
SPEAKER_01 (26:21):
It's about Jesus.
What are you gonna do for God?
Yeah, okay, you lived in theshadow of this guy who was bold
and he was great, and that'sawesome, but he's gone.
What about you?
Who fills the void?
Who fills the vacuum?
I said, baby, if you don't standfor something, you're gonna fall
for everything in this world.
I said, but if you stand forChrist, so I think it's so
(26:45):
important when we're talkingabout the partnership of faith
that we all square our shouldersand we find a way to
collaborate, to communicate, totalk, to do big things in the
kingdom together because it'snot about Baptist, it's not
about AOG, it's not about theUPCI or the WPF or the ALGC.
Guess what?
It's about Revelation 7 and 9.
(27:05):
It's about a great multitudethat no man can number that's
standing before the throne.
So how are we gonna do this?
You think you're gonna do it byyourself?
No.
You think I'm gonna do it bymyself?
Not a chance.
But if we could find a way tocollaborate and cooperate and
communicate about the kingdomand not isolate ourselves, but
unify in this moment.
(27:26):
Link arms.
Gosh, when that trumpet sounds,it's gonna be bigger than we
could have imagined.
That is my dream is that God'svictory would be so great and so
global and so mighty that nobodygets the credit but him.
That's why we wrote Partnershipof Faith.
SPEAKER_02 (27:45):
I love that.
That's my heart too.
You know, in the job that I havehere, it's all about connecting
people for the kingdom andnetworking.
Yes.
And I even, before I even tookthis job, I had a prophetic word
spoken over me about um, youremember that old uh, I think it
was a Coca-Cola commercial, andthere was a they were standing
on top of a hill and they wereall linking arms together and
(28:08):
they were singing about theworld being united together.
And I've had a prophet in mychurch speak that over me, and
he said, You're gonna beconnecting and networking.
And so that's my heart.
I love that.
That's the the vision for thatbook is just to bring the body
of Christ together and link armsbecause it's not about us and
our ministry, it's aboutexpanding the gospel.
SPEAKER_01 (28:29):
That is the trick of the enemy.
Isolation is the key to theenemy's destruction.
Yeah.
But if we could fight that, linkarms.
You just revealed how old weare.
You know, right?
SPEAKER_00 (28:42):
That yeah, that Coca-Cola commercial that's old.
I'm not gonna say our age, butyou just revealed it.
SPEAKER_02 (28:51):
Well, we have about one minute before we wrap up.
Can you pick like one highlightout of this second book to share
with the audience?
SPEAKER_01 (28:59):
Yeah, you know, um, for me, for me, the greatest
takeaway of this book is thatwhole Revelation 7 and 9
argument.
Really, that's the heartbeat.
That was why God said to writethis book.
When God spoke about what it'sgonna look like post-rapture,
post-white throne, when we'restanding before him, those who
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have washed their robes in theblood of the Lamb, and they have
been born again of the water andof the Spirit, and they have
been caught up to meet him inthe air, and that multitude is
so great and so mighty beyondanything we can imagine, can't
be numbered.
Every tribe, every nation, everyculture.
Yes.
(29:41):
That is to me the takeaway thatif we can just swallow our
pride, put away carnality, linkarms, join in the partnership of
faith, jump in the river, bepart of the multitude.
It's gonna happen.
SPEAKER_02 (29:55):
Amen.
Thanks for joining us foranother episode of the Christian
Book Tour.
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by Audiochuck Media Company.
The Brothers Ortiz
The Brothers Ortiz is the story of two brothers–both successful, but in very different ways. Gabe Ortiz becomes a third-highest ranking officer in all of Texas while his younger brother Larry climbs the ranks in Puro Tango Blast, a notorious Texas Prison gang. Gabe doesn’t know all the details of his brother’s nefarious dealings, and he’s made a point not to ask, to protect their relationship. But when Larry is murdered during a home invasion in a rented beach house, Gabe has no choice but to look into what happened that night. To solve Larry’s murder, Gabe, and the whole Ortiz family, must ask each other tough questions.