December 8, 2025 • 78 mins
What if the power you’re seeking can’t be traded for, only trusted into? We sat down with Bishop Elder to talk about guarding a living faith that actually changes people, and how to carry it—with fire—into the hands of the next generation.
We start with the mission to equip at scale and quickly move into the core question: how do you keep truth from becoming a museum piece? Bishop Elder lays it out: worship is a conduit that can transmit revelation or iniquity, depending on the heart of the leader. He challenges us to choose anointed songs over familiar hits, to labor for fresh oil instead of reheating last week’s manna, and to let preaching become demonstration in the Spirit, not just information. Along the way, we share testimonies of healing, hunger among Gen Z, and the story of a judge transformed by watching authentic worship—real moments that remind us truth still travels in power.
The conversation turns sharply toward the nature of the kingdom. You can’t buy miracles. Authority flows from relationship with the King, not transactions or tactics. We talk holiness and modesty without clichés, tackle the pressure to please culture, and get honest about our phones, playlists, and posts. Then we pray—asking God to burn away compromise, renew conviction, and anchor us in a love for truth that draws people to an altar, not an algorithm. If you’re hungry to pass on a faith that’s alive, to lead worship that carries weight, and to build ministry on intimacy rather than image, this one will re-center your heart.
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SPEAKER_05 (00:47):
Shut up.
Hallelujah.
Breakfast morning.
Hallelujah.
SPEAKER_04 (01:50):
Your moustach.
SPEAKER_05 (02:17):
In the name of Jesus.
In the name of Jesus.
In the name of the Lord.
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In the name of the Lord.
In the name of the Lord.
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Oh, praise the name of the Lord.
Well, praise the Lord,everybody, and welcome to
another great episode ofApostolic Mentoring.
I greet you in the mighty nameof Jesus from Columbus, Ohio
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today.
It is so good to be home for afew days.
(05:00):
And there was so much healingand victory and deliverance that
happened on Sunday.
And then we drove home on Sundaynight.
(05:27):
But to be here with all of you,great people of God today is
such a joy.
SPEAKER_02 (05:39):
And to be a part of this great kingdom mission.
SPEAKER_05 (05:46):
Equipping millions to reach billions.
(06:11):
Share this episode on Facebook.
Partagez.
Connect with the ApostolicMentoring YouTube channel.
And subscribe to the ApostolicMentoring Podcast, which is
available on every podcastplatform.
(06:38):
But today we are incredibly justoverjoyed to host Bishop Elder
on Apostolic Mentoring.
(08:33):
But he's also a singer,songwriter.
This is not fair in the kingdomof God when you're given
everything.
(09:15):
We deeply appreciate you.
SPEAKER_00 (09:23):
Thank you, Brother Robinet, and it is my honor to
be with you on this podcasttoday.
SPEAKER_02 (10:05):
First of all, by the anointed way that you followed
the Holy Ghost.
SPEAKER_00 (10:27):
In my mind, that is the that is the ultimate concern
of real ministry, is to bringpeople to Jesus Christ.
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So we were thrilled to watchthis.
And so I love the passion thatyou have, Brother Robinet, and
all of the team members.
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And I really felt impressed byGod to talk about uh this
subject that I'm dealing withtoday.
Uh I really love it if this isnot just uh I I don't know your
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format, Brother Robinet, if it'sa monologue or if it's uh a uh
dialogue, but I I love the inputof people, especially men of God
and women of God that haveincredible insight.
Uh but go ahead, sister.
SPEAKER_02 (13:42):
You never say uh invest in the I really feel God
dealing with me to talk aboutthe the transfer of these
incredible truths that God hasgiven us from one generation to
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the next.
I consider myself a young man,I'm a young 62 years old.
SPEAKER_00 (14:24):
And uh I I think I'm as young as I ever was, but
sometimes my body betrays that.
And so there is an urgency in myspirit to make sure that the
next generation uh regards thesetruths to the same sacred degree
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that we do.
I read a statement many yearsago that said there is no real
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success in a very successors.
And I don't want to see thetremendous moves of God that we
have seen, and then futuregenerations they just simply
become dry dead institutions.
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It is amazing to me to see howthat the truths of God have been
carried even through the darkages to every generation.
But even Jesus himself said thatuh when he comes back shall he
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find faith in the earth.
So he gives us a responsibilityto transfer these truths and
this power from one generationto the next.
SPEAKER_02 (16:30):
David said in Psalms chapter 78 and verse 9.
David had some 78 verse 2.
SPEAKER_00 (16:41):
And I I read, I'll read the whole verse, sister,
and then I'll let you read it.
I will open my mouth inparables, I will utter dark dark
sayings of old.
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And I did see online YouTube uhshots of the incredible move of
the Holy Ghost at NAYC.
And I I feel so comfortable withthe generations that are coming
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on, with what they are seeingand the way that God is moving.
But I think it is a seminal andan ultimate responsibility of
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ours to make sure that that thetruths that generate that kind
of power remain.
SPEAKER_02 (19:03):
Jesus said you shall know the truth, and the truth
shall make you free.
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And that's just an earthlytruth.
SPEAKER_00 (20:07):
The spiritual truths are eternal, and when we pray in
the Holy Ghost, God reveals hisword to us.
And then it's up to us totransfer that revelation to
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future generations.
Uh I I just did a recent studyand discovered that more
generation Z young people aregoing to church than Gen X or
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Millennium or Millennials.
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I just returned from Vietnamabout a little over a week ago,
and what amazes me is it's theyoung people in that communist
nation that are so hungry fortruth.
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I know that's been said and andI repeat, but you can become uh
greatness can become common ifwe're not careful.
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And some of the some of thethings that are so powerful in
our church service, even themost mundane services, can seem
common.
And yet when these young peoplecome in, they experience a
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revelation of God that they'venever experienced before.
In studying the scriptures, andI'll forego a lot of the reading
of the scriptures, but there aresome things that the Bible shows
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us uh ways to convey thosetruths.
And one of the first primateones is our worship.
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As a musician, I have just lovedthe way that the Indiana Bible
College's song about one God hasrocked the world.
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And even people that don'tconsider themselves believers
and Christians are absolutelyamazed and moved with the
anointing of that kind ofworship.
SPEAKER_02 (25:05):
As a leader, I'm careful.
SPEAKER_00 (25:07):
Com dirigeant Because I try to stay in tune
with relating to the worldwithout compromising my
relationship with God and histruth.
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And and so if we're not carefulas even simple things as music
leaders.
We can try to relate to thepeople so much that we use songs
that are popular but they haveno anointing.
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And we choose them because weknow that everybody will know
them.
But we haven't really spent timewith God to see if that is a
conduit that will relay God'spower and his truth.
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Music music is a conduit, it's avery powerful conduit that
transfers and transmitsparticular feelings and even
beliefs.
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The problem was was the choirleader became full of iniquity.
And so he no longer transmittedtruth, but he transmitted
iniquity.
SPEAKER_02 (27:48):
Iniquity is a different kind of sin.
SPEAKER_00 (27:56):
The most common word for sin in the Bible is
hemorrhagia.
It's a Greek word which means tomiss the mark.
But the word iniquity is anotherword altogether.
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It is nomia, which means toviolate the law willingly.
And so we have to be carefulthat we are transmitting through
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a conduit of Holy Ghostanointing.
As apostolic Pentecostalsapostolic as apostolic
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Pentecostals, our firstallegiance is to the truth that
God revealed to us that set usfree.
And because of that, the firstrevelation is that he's the only
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God that there is.
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And this is a powerful tool thatGod has given us to transfer and
transmit his truth.
SPEAKER_02 (31:27):
So we use our music, our praise and our prayer.
Alors nous utilisons la music,not prayer, notre louange, our
preaching, notre predication.
SPEAKER_00 (31:41):
We don't preach as the world preaches.
We receive a word from theAnointed Spirit of God.
Even to where supernaturaloccurrences of the Holy Ghost
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happen to us.
And God will speak to us andsay, There is a there is a man
down in Tar right now, he's in,I can't remember the name of the
city.
It's actually a suburb of TelAviv today.
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His name is Saul, he's blind.
I blinded him.
SPEAKER_02 (32:29):
Go find him.
And Paul never met him.
And Ananias had never met Paul.
(32:51):
But the anointed power of theHoly Ghost made this
arrangement.
I think this is still importantfrom generation to generation.
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I'm fifth generation Pentecost.
SPEAKER_00 (33:20):
And and yet I saw the way that God moved in such
powerful ways that I could notdeny the truths that God had
given me.
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Because this is this is theheritage of the Lord.
SPEAKER_02 (34:00):
We will not hide this from our children.
SPEAKER_00 (35:36):
I think that it is it is so imperative, one of the
latest miracles that we saw inour church.
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And because the tumor had gotgrown so big and had began to
invade other organs, they justclosed him back up.
And sent him home and told himthe only thing that we know to
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do is to try experimentalprocesses with you to see if one
of them worked.
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And so we do know that the Biblesays, I am the Lord thy God that
healeth thee of all thydiseases.
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But it's got to be more thanjust academic.
The Apostle Paul tried academicsat Athens.
SPEAKER_02 (39:09):
And yet there was not a great response from that,
even though it was the word ofGod and it was awesome.
SPEAKER_00 (39:21):
But the Apostle Paul learned something, and when he
went to Corinth, which was thenext city that he went to.
SPEAKER_02 (40:21):
When it comes to the anointing, the anointing is not
old.
SPEAKER_00 (40:30):
When you study in the Old Testament, they could
not use old olives to make theanointing oil.
SPEAKER_02 (40:46):
They had to be fresh olives.
SPEAKER_00 (41:01):
It was the Bible says that the anointing oil was
fresh, squeezed oil.
Which tells us that the HolyGhost, the anointing of God,
never gets old.
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The Lord did not allow hispeople to eat manna, the bread
from heaven, after one day.
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There is something about whenyou can preach a word from God
that you have heard since youwere a child.
And the man or the woman that ispreaching that, or whoever, the
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Bible study, or whatever it is.
SPEAKER_02 (42:28):
And they get in the Holy Ghost.
SPEAKER_00 (42:55):
But when that fresh anointing oil touches it, when
that anointing of the Holy Ghostis poured over it through deep
consecration and prayer andfasting and separation not only
from the world, but separationto God.
SPEAKER_02 (43:23):
Something different happens.
This is what we have to captureand never lose for our young
people.
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It ignites the fire of faith inthe hearer and the observer.
SPEAKER_00 (44:35):
I will never forget we uh had a judge here from our
city.
And one of the young ladies inour church was his secretary for
for many years.
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That young lady and her husbandare actually pastor in a church
in Florida now that is justblowing up with revival.
SPEAKER_02 (45:16):
But this judge could observe the anointing in this
young lady's life.
SPEAKER_00 (45:26):
To such a degree that it inspired him to go on an
intensive training week withHope Court.
SPEAKER_02 (45:41):
He's a very prominent judge in this city.
SPEAKER_00 (45:47):
He was raised Catholic and he had just started
studying Buddhism.
It's a funny story when he gotto Roatan, the island, and how
if he hadn't have known how tospeak Spanish, he would have
never made it to the ITW center.
SPEAKER_02 (46:16):
But he was there.
He had never experiencedPentecost before.
SPEAKER_00 (46:41):
The horrible juvenile crimes and the
sentencing that he had to do, Idon't know how many hundreds and
thousands, hundreds maybethousands of cases.
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And he was very frustrated.
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As he watched our young peopleworship and pray.
SPEAKER_02 (52:27):
And they will.
SPEAKER_00 (52:55):
He had been buried for God only knows how long.
And those young men running froma fight took a dead body and
threw it in the cave on that onthat prophet's bones.
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If you go to that country,there's tombs all over in the
hillsides.
SPEAKER_02 (53:50):
But that was Elisha's tomb.
SPEAKER_00 (53:57):
There was anointing there.
As I recall, that anointed manhad never been taken from
Elisha.
SPEAKER_02 (54:13):
It was laying on those dead bones.
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Look, preachers, look, people.
SPEAKER_00 (54:47):
The devil will tell us you told that story, you
preached that a million times.
And it's marginalized in ourmind, but it's not to the
hearer.
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And the ways that even theenemy, even this week, has tried
to marginalize and tell us thatwhat we're doing is ineffective
and it has no power.
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But remember, truths travel inthe anointing, and the anointing
is eternal.
I just feel in my spirit, evenfrom the time that I've been
praying preparing for the lastseveral weeks, that there is
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some amazing breakthroughs in2026 that God's going to do in
the apostolic world.
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And I am so impressed and so uhreinvigorated with the knowing
from the just from what I feltfrom the prayer and from the
hunger that I sensed from thisgroup.
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To you, Brother Robinet, and tothe to our translator, thank you
and to brother Robinet.
I look forward to getting closerto you in the years.
I know God's going to open thedoors when the time is right.
SPEAKER_02 (58:24):
God bless you.
SPEAKER_05 (58:34):
And I know that nobody that's on the Zoom
session, that's watching live onFacebook right now takes these
words lightly.
Something jumped in my spirit,Bishop, uh, while you were
ministering a moment ago.
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I remember sitting in a meetingsometime last year.
And somebody made the statement,you know, that the kingdom of
God was transactional.
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And I my spirit pushed backagainst that statement so
strongly.
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And I'm not the type of personthat that ever wants to create
conflict.
I really I really am not.
I'm always trying to find thegentle way to address things
that I disagree with withoutcreating chaos.
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But there were just too manypeople listening to this uh
instruction.
It was actually a a uh a paneldiscussion about the kingdom,
and there were just too manypeople listening to do it
discreetly.
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And I I raised my hand and Isaid, I said, I I love, I
respect everybody up here.
I I certainly don't want to givethe impression that I that I
want to dishonor anybody.
I said, but I disagree that thekingdom of God is transactional.
SPEAKER_02 (01:01:06):
I believe it's relational.
SPEAKER_05 (01:01:08):
Yes, when I am in a deep relationship with God, I
organically move into power andauthority, when my heart is
right with the king, when myheart is right with the truth,
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you can't buy miracles and signsand wonders with money.
Do follow somebody who is in adeep, uh, unrepentable
relationship with the king.
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Yes, you know, we have to buythe truth in a sense in that we
have to grab a hold of it withboth hands and never let it go.
And we ought to sell everythingin this world to get a drop of
truth.
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Leave behind whatever I have toleave behind.
Place on an altar in a gravewhatever's gotta be on an altar
or whatever must be buried.
To to have the truth alive andwell in me.
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So that I can transfer it to thenext generation.
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But we cannot allow them tothink that the power of God, the
authority of God, the truth ofGod is a transactional
commodity.
They have got to know that everygood thing of the kingdom is
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found on our knees.
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But it's all relational.
SPEAKER_02 (01:04:25):
What is your relationship with the truth?
SPEAKER_05 (01:04:31):
Are you looking at the truth and saying, well, I
like this, but I don't likethat?
Are you looking at the truth andsaying, well, that fit in my
grandfather's generation, butnot in this generation?
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Are you looking at the truth andsaying, well, that was relevant
back then, but it's it's justnot popular now?
Are you looking at the truth andsaying, well, that wouldn't have
got grandpa canceled, but if Iput that on Facebook, it's gonna
get me cancelled?
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What is our relationship withthe truth?
Is it is it impacted by cultureor does it transcend every
culture and every generation?
Is it standing on its own?
SPEAKER_02 (01:05:45):
The kingdom of God is not transactional, it is
relational.
SPEAKER_05 (01:05:56):
I am in relationship with the truth that cannot be
rescinded or repented.
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It was the Friday morningsession, and I talked about
there is no more time, there'sno more time for carnality,
there's no more time forworldliness, I recently, matter
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of fact, I think just yesterdayI uploaded that message to the
Apostolic Mentoring Podcast, soyou can go watch it or listen to
it live on the podcast rightnow.
But we have gotta get convictedabout truth, we've got to get
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convicted about holiness, we'vegot to get convicted about
Hollywood, we've got to getconvicted about modesty, and
we've gotta stop allowing thisworld to move the lines and to
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make us feel intimidated abouttruth and the stance we should
be taking.
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It's just the the message isright on that podcast.
Thank you for for you knowpoking the bear.
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How are you gonna translatethat, Sister Constance?
Go ahead.
Let me see your work with thatcolloquialism.
SPEAKER_00 (01:09:44):
I was cracking up the minute you said it, but I
wanted to translate that.
SPEAKER_05 (01:09:49):
Let me tell you something, Bishop.
She's like the best translator.
I mean, one of the greatestapostolic translators.
I I'm I just made the greatesttranslator stutter.
SPEAKER_00 (01:10:03):
Well, she's anointed, that's for sure.
SPEAKER_05 (01:10:06):
Especially if she translated that.
I don't know what she said, butI didn't get it, I didn't see
anything pop up in the chat, soshe must have got it right.
She's a great translator.
You know, here we are, Bishop.
We've got to start talking aboutthe reality of the hour.
SPEAKER_02 (01:10:29):
And I gotta stop worrying about being cancelled,
gotta stop worrying aboutfitting in with culture, let our
music reflect the truth, let ourlifestyle reflect the truth,
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reflect the truth, reflète lavérité, let my iPhone reflect
the truth, let my preaching, letit be be filled with anointed
reflections of truth, quereflète la vérité.
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I want to be in such arelationship with the truth.
SPEAKER_04 (01:11:29):
That when my mouth opens up, hallelujah!
SPEAKER_05 (01:11:32):
Afin que quand ma bouche s'ouvre, that the Holy
Ghost anointing from myrelationship with the truth du
Saint-Esprit qui vient de la dema relation avec la vérité stirs
and draws the hearers to anapostolic altar where they can
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also get in relationship withtruth.
SPEAKER_02 (01:12:02):
Oh, what a word that we've received today.
Now by the authority of the wordof God, by the power of the name
of Jesus Christ.
SPEAKER_05 (01:12:20):
Let a love for truth, let it overtake every
listener and viewer that thatwatches this now and watches
this later.
SPEAKER_02 (01:12:39):
Let your army be overtaken with conviction today.
That this army would put awaythe flirtation with this world
et que cette anxious puisse nousrepousser la fluctuation de ce
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monde.
And get in a deeper relationshipwith the truth et nous amener à
une relation profonde avec lavérité, Amen.
God put the cross before us.
Seigneur, mets la croix devantnous, Amen.
The world behind us.
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And don't let us turn back onetime.
Amen.
Hallelujah.
Let us realize that there is toomuch to do in this hour.
SPEAKER_04 (01:13:39):
To not be overtaken with apostolic doctrinal
holiness conviction.
SPEAKER_02 (01:13:56):
Oh Seigneur, touche cette army, Seigneur.
Take perversion and carnalityout of our systems.
Éloigne-nous de toute perversionet de toute mundanité, de toute
canalité.
Take the hunger for this worldaway from your army.
Enlève de nous le désir dumonde.
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And put a hunger for truth inour spiritual systems.
Let there be no compromise inthis army.
Amen.
Because there is no more time.
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Urge me with this that I mightbe clean.
SPEAKER_04 (01:14:49):
Wash me that I might be whiter than snow.
Lave-moi pour que je sois plusblanc que neige.
Let the words of my mouth andthe meditations of my heart be
acceptable unto you, O God.
SPEAKER_02 (01:15:08):
Forgive your army of their sins.
Oh Seigneur, pardonne ton armyde ses péchés.
Forgive us of noity.
Put us in deeper relationship,God.
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In the name of Jesus.
Dans le nom de Jesus Christ.
Purify our relationships.
Purify notre relation, Amen.
Purify our words.
Purify noses.
Purify no cœur.
Purify our appetite.
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The things we want to take intoour sister.
SPEAKER_01 (01:15:55):
In the name of Jesus.
I love you, Jesus.
I love you, Jesus.
SPEAKER_05 (01:16:07):
Thank you, dear friends, for being on Apostolic
Mentoring again this Tuesday.
I look forward to seeing you allnext Tuesday, 1 p.m.
Eastern time for another greatapostolic mentoring session.
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Why don't you all do what youalways do and take yourselves
off mute and greet Bishop Elder?
SPEAKER_04 (01:16:55):
Amen.
Thank you, Brother Elder.
God bless everyone.
SPEAKER_03 (01:17:02):
God bless you.
SPEAKER_05 (01:17:07):
Love you, Sister Clark.
Love you.
Love you, brother and sisterBishop, Brother Daniel.
I love Bishop Estrada.
God bless you.
I love you.
Pastor McKee, God bless you.
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God bless you.
SPEAKER_03 (01:17:30):
Hasta luego.
Bye bye.
SPEAKER_05 (01:17:31):
Hasta luego.
We'll see you, Sister Aldorette.
God bless you.
Shut up.
Hallelujah.
Breakfast morning.
Hallelujah.
SPEAKER_04 (01:50):
Your moustach.
SPEAKER_05 (02:17):
In the name of Jesus.
In the name of Jesus.
In the name of the Lord.
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In the name of the Lord.
In the name of the Lord.
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Oh, praise the name of the Lord.
Well, praise the Lord,everybody, and welcome to
another great episode ofApostolic Mentoring.
I greet you in the mighty nameof Jesus from Columbus, Ohio
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today.
It is so good to be home for afew days.
(05:00):
And there was so much healingand victory and deliverance that
happened on Sunday.
And then we drove home on Sundaynight.
(05:27):
But to be here with all of you,great people of God today is
such a joy.
SPEAKER_02 (05:39):
And to be a part of this great kingdom mission.
SPEAKER_05 (05:46):
Equipping millions to reach billions.
(06:11):
Share this episode on Facebook.
Partagez.
Connect with the ApostolicMentoring YouTube channel.
And subscribe to the ApostolicMentoring Podcast, which is
available on every podcastplatform.
(06:38):
But today we are incredibly justoverjoyed to host Bishop Elder
on Apostolic Mentoring.
(08:33):
But he's also a singer,songwriter.
This is not fair in the kingdomof God when you're given
everything.
(09:15):
We deeply appreciate you.
SPEAKER_00 (09:23):
Thank you, Brother Robinet, and it is my honor to
be with you on this podcasttoday.
SPEAKER_02 (10:05):
First of all, by the anointed way that you followed
the Holy Ghost.
SPEAKER_00 (10:27):
In my mind, that is the that is the ultimate concern
of real ministry, is to bringpeople to Jesus Christ.
(12:01):
So we were thrilled to watchthis.
And so I love the passion thatyou have, Brother Robinet, and
all of the team members.
(13:03):
And I really felt impressed byGod to talk about uh this
subject that I'm dealing withtoday.
Uh I really love it if this isnot just uh I I don't know your
(13:26):
format, Brother Robinet, if it'sa monologue or if it's uh a uh
dialogue, but I I love the inputof people, especially men of God
and women of God that haveincredible insight.
Uh but go ahead, sister.
SPEAKER_02 (13:42):
You never say uh invest in the I really feel God
dealing with me to talk aboutthe the transfer of these
incredible truths that God hasgiven us from one generation to
(14:05):
the next.
I consider myself a young man,I'm a young 62 years old.
SPEAKER_00 (14:24):
And uh I I think I'm as young as I ever was, but
sometimes my body betrays that.
And so there is an urgency in myspirit to make sure that the
next generation uh regards thesetruths to the same sacred degree
(14:49):
that we do.
I read a statement many yearsago that said there is no real
(15:10):
success in a very successors.
And I don't want to see thetremendous moves of God that we
have seen, and then futuregenerations they just simply
become dry dead institutions.
(15:40):
It is amazing to me to see howthat the truths of God have been
carried even through the darkages to every generation.
But even Jesus himself said thatuh when he comes back shall he
(16:05):
find faith in the earth.
So he gives us a responsibilityto transfer these truths and
this power from one generationto the next.
SPEAKER_02 (16:30):
David said in Psalms chapter 78 and verse 9.
David had some 78 verse 2.
SPEAKER_00 (16:41):
And I I read, I'll read the whole verse, sister,
and then I'll let you read it.
I will open my mouth inparables, I will utter dark dark
sayings of old.
(17:59):
And I did see online YouTube uhshots of the incredible move of
the Holy Ghost at NAYC.
And I I feel so comfortable withthe generations that are coming
(18:22):
on, with what they are seeingand the way that God is moving.
But I think it is a seminal andan ultimate responsibility of
(18:42):
ours to make sure that that thetruths that generate that kind
of power remain.
SPEAKER_02 (19:03):
Jesus said you shall know the truth, and the truth
shall make you free.
(20:00):
And that's just an earthlytruth.
SPEAKER_00 (20:07):
The spiritual truths are eternal, and when we pray in
the Holy Ghost, God reveals hisword to us.
And then it's up to us totransfer that revelation to
(20:28):
future generations.
Uh I I just did a recent studyand discovered that more
generation Z young people aregoing to church than Gen X or
(20:50):
Millennium or Millennials.
(22:06):
I just returned from Vietnamabout a little over a week ago,
and what amazes me is it's theyoung people in that communist
nation that are so hungry fortruth.
(22:54):
I know that's been said and andI repeat, but you can become uh
greatness can become common ifwe're not careful.
(23:15):
And some of the some of thethings that are so powerful in
our church service, even themost mundane services, can seem
common.
And yet when these young peoplecome in, they experience a
(23:39):
revelation of God that they'venever experienced before.
In studying the scriptures, andI'll forego a lot of the reading
of the scriptures, but there aresome things that the Bible shows
(24:00):
us uh ways to convey thosetruths.
And one of the first primateones is our worship.
(24:21):
As a musician, I have just lovedthe way that the Indiana Bible
College's song about one God hasrocked the world.
(24:45):
And even people that don'tconsider themselves believers
and Christians are absolutelyamazed and moved with the
anointing of that kind ofworship.
SPEAKER_02 (25:05):
As a leader, I'm careful.
SPEAKER_00 (25:07):
Com dirigeant Because I try to stay in tune
with relating to the worldwithout compromising my
relationship with God and histruth.
(25:31):
And and so if we're not carefulas even simple things as music
leaders.
We can try to relate to thepeople so much that we use songs
that are popular but they haveno anointing.
(26:05):
And we choose them because weknow that everybody will know
them.
But we haven't really spent timewith God to see if that is a
conduit that will relay God'spower and his truth.
(26:32):
Music music is a conduit, it's avery powerful conduit that
transfers and transmitsparticular feelings and even
beliefs.
(27:23):
The problem was was the choirleader became full of iniquity.
And so he no longer transmittedtruth, but he transmitted
iniquity.
SPEAKER_02 (27:48):
Iniquity is a different kind of sin.
SPEAKER_00 (27:56):
The most common word for sin in the Bible is
hemorrhagia.
It's a Greek word which means tomiss the mark.
But the word iniquity is anotherword altogether.
(28:25):
It is nomia, which means toviolate the law willingly.
And so we have to be carefulthat we are transmitting through
(28:46):
a conduit of Holy Ghostanointing.
As apostolic Pentecostalsapostolic as apostolic
(29:08):
Pentecostals, our firstallegiance is to the truth that
God revealed to us that set usfree.
And because of that, the firstrevelation is that he's the only
(29:30):
God that there is.
(31:09):
And this is a powerful tool thatGod has given us to transfer and
transmit his truth.
SPEAKER_02 (31:27):
So we use our music, our praise and our prayer.
Alors nous utilisons la music,not prayer, notre louange, our
preaching, notre predication.
SPEAKER_00 (31:41):
We don't preach as the world preaches.
We receive a word from theAnointed Spirit of God.
Even to where supernaturaloccurrences of the Holy Ghost
(32:02):
happen to us.
And God will speak to us andsay, There is a there is a man
down in Tar right now, he's in,I can't remember the name of the
city.
It's actually a suburb of TelAviv today.
(32:26):
His name is Saul, he's blind.
I blinded him.
SPEAKER_02 (32:29):
Go find him.
And Paul never met him.
And Ananias had never met Paul.
(32:51):
But the anointed power of theHoly Ghost made this
arrangement.
I think this is still importantfrom generation to generation.
(33:12):
I'm fifth generation Pentecost.
SPEAKER_00 (33:20):
And and yet I saw the way that God moved in such
powerful ways that I could notdeny the truths that God had
given me.
(33:57):
Because this is this is theheritage of the Lord.
SPEAKER_02 (34:00):
We will not hide this from our children.
SPEAKER_00 (35:36):
I think that it is it is so imperative, one of the
latest miracles that we saw inour church.
(36:09):
And because the tumor had gotgrown so big and had began to
invade other organs, they justclosed him back up.
And sent him home and told himthe only thing that we know to
(36:31):
do is to try experimentalprocesses with you to see if one
of them worked.
(38:01):
And so we do know that the Biblesays, I am the Lord thy God that
healeth thee of all thydiseases.
(38:28):
But it's got to be more thanjust academic.
The Apostle Paul tried academicsat Athens.
SPEAKER_02 (39:09):
And yet there was not a great response from that,
even though it was the word ofGod and it was awesome.
SPEAKER_00 (39:21):
But the Apostle Paul learned something, and when he
went to Corinth, which was thenext city that he went to.
SPEAKER_02 (40:21):
When it comes to the anointing, the anointing is not
old.
SPEAKER_00 (40:30):
When you study in the Old Testament, they could
not use old olives to make theanointing oil.
SPEAKER_02 (40:46):
They had to be fresh olives.
SPEAKER_00 (41:01):
It was the Bible says that the anointing oil was
fresh, squeezed oil.
Which tells us that the HolyGhost, the anointing of God,
never gets old.
(41:25):
The Lord did not allow hispeople to eat manna, the bread
from heaven, after one day.
(41:59):
There is something about whenyou can preach a word from God
that you have heard since youwere a child.
And the man or the woman that ispreaching that, or whoever, the
(42:19):
Bible study, or whatever it is.
SPEAKER_02 (42:28):
And they get in the Holy Ghost.
SPEAKER_00 (42:55):
But when that fresh anointing oil touches it, when
that anointing of the Holy Ghostis poured over it through deep
consecration and prayer andfasting and separation not only
from the world, but separationto God.
SPEAKER_02 (43:23):
Something different happens.
This is what we have to captureand never lose for our young
people.
(44:22):
It ignites the fire of faith inthe hearer and the observer.
SPEAKER_00 (44:35):
I will never forget we uh had a judge here from our
city.
And one of the young ladies inour church was his secretary for
for many years.
(44:58):
That young lady and her husbandare actually pastor in a church
in Florida now that is justblowing up with revival.
SPEAKER_02 (45:16):
But this judge could observe the anointing in this
young lady's life.
SPEAKER_00 (45:26):
To such a degree that it inspired him to go on an
intensive training week withHope Court.
SPEAKER_02 (45:41):
He's a very prominent judge in this city.
SPEAKER_00 (45:47):
He was raised Catholic and he had just started
studying Buddhism.
It's a funny story when he gotto Roatan, the island, and how
if he hadn't have known how tospeak Spanish, he would have
never made it to the ITW center.
SPEAKER_02 (46:16):
But he was there.
He had never experiencedPentecost before.
SPEAKER_00 (46:41):
The horrible juvenile crimes and the
sentencing that he had to do, Idon't know how many hundreds and
thousands, hundreds maybethousands of cases.
(47:42):
And he was very frustrated.
(48:07):
As he watched our young peopleworship and pray.
SPEAKER_02 (52:27):
And they will.
SPEAKER_00 (52:55):
He had been buried for God only knows how long.
And those young men running froma fight took a dead body and
threw it in the cave on that onthat prophet's bones.
(53:19):
If you go to that country,there's tombs all over in the
hillsides.
SPEAKER_02 (53:50):
But that was Elisha's tomb.
SPEAKER_00 (53:57):
There was anointing there.
As I recall, that anointed manhad never been taken from
Elisha.
SPEAKER_02 (54:13):
It was laying on those dead bones.
(54:45):
Look, preachers, look, people.
SPEAKER_00 (54:47):
The devil will tell us you told that story, you
preached that a million times.
And it's marginalized in ourmind, but it's not to the
hearer.
(55:43):
And the ways that even theenemy, even this week, has tried
to marginalize and tell us thatwhat we're doing is ineffective
and it has no power.
(56:18):
But remember, truths travel inthe anointing, and the anointing
is eternal.
I just feel in my spirit, evenfrom the time that I've been
praying preparing for the lastseveral weeks, that there is
(56:42):
some amazing breakthroughs in2026 that God's going to do in
the apostolic world.
(57:36):
And I am so impressed and so uhreinvigorated with the knowing
from the just from what I feltfrom the prayer and from the
hunger that I sensed from thisgroup.
(58:03):
To you, Brother Robinet, and tothe to our translator, thank you
and to brother Robinet.
I look forward to getting closerto you in the years.
I know God's going to open thedoors when the time is right.
SPEAKER_02 (58:24):
God bless you.
SPEAKER_05 (58:34):
And I know that nobody that's on the Zoom
session, that's watching live onFacebook right now takes these
words lightly.
Something jumped in my spirit,Bishop, uh, while you were
ministering a moment ago.
(59:02):
I remember sitting in a meetingsometime last year.
And somebody made the statement,you know, that the kingdom of
God was transactional.
(59:26):
And I my spirit pushed backagainst that statement so
strongly.
(59:54):
And I'm not the type of personthat that ever wants to create
conflict.
I really I really am not.
I'm always trying to find thegentle way to address things
that I disagree with withoutcreating chaos.
(01:00:18):
But there were just too manypeople listening to this uh
instruction.
It was actually a a uh a paneldiscussion about the kingdom,
and there were just too manypeople listening to do it
discreetly.
(01:00:39):
And I I raised my hand and Isaid, I said, I I love, I
respect everybody up here.
I I certainly don't want to givethe impression that I that I
want to dishonor anybody.
I said, but I disagree that thekingdom of God is transactional.
SPEAKER_02 (01:01:06):
I believe it's relational.
SPEAKER_05 (01:01:08):
Yes, when I am in a deep relationship with God, I
organically move into power andauthority, when my heart is
right with the king, when myheart is right with the truth,
(01:01:39):
you can't buy miracles and signsand wonders with money.
Do follow somebody who is in adeep, uh, unrepentable
relationship with the king.
(01:02:03):
Yes, you know, we have to buythe truth in a sense in that we
have to grab a hold of it withboth hands and never let it go.
And we ought to sell everythingin this world to get a drop of
truth.
(01:02:34):
Leave behind whatever I have toleave behind.
Place on an altar in a gravewhatever's gotta be on an altar
or whatever must be buried.
To to have the truth alive andwell in me.
(01:03:00):
So that I can transfer it to thenext generation.
(01:03:27):
But we cannot allow them tothink that the power of God, the
authority of God, the truth ofGod is a transactional
commodity.
They have got to know that everygood thing of the kingdom is
(01:03:49):
found on our knees.
(01:04:21):
But it's all relational.
SPEAKER_02 (01:04:25):
What is your relationship with the truth?
SPEAKER_05 (01:04:31):
Are you looking at the truth and saying, well, I
like this, but I don't likethat?
Are you looking at the truth andsaying, well, that fit in my
grandfather's generation, butnot in this generation?
(01:04:55):
Are you looking at the truth andsaying, well, that was relevant
back then, but it's it's justnot popular now?
Are you looking at the truth andsaying, well, that wouldn't have
got grandpa canceled, but if Iput that on Facebook, it's gonna
get me cancelled?
(01:05:24):
What is our relationship withthe truth?
Is it is it impacted by cultureor does it transcend every
culture and every generation?
Is it standing on its own?
SPEAKER_02 (01:05:45):
The kingdom of God is not transactional, it is
relational.
SPEAKER_05 (01:05:56):
I am in relationship with the truth that cannot be
rescinded or repented.
(01:06:23):
It was the Friday morningsession, and I talked about
there is no more time, there'sno more time for carnality,
there's no more time forworldliness, I recently, matter
(01:06:49):
of fact, I think just yesterdayI uploaded that message to the
Apostolic Mentoring Podcast, soyou can go watch it or listen to
it live on the podcast rightnow.
But we have gotta get convictedabout truth, we've got to get
(01:07:15):
convicted about holiness, we'vegot to get convicted about
Hollywood, we've got to getconvicted about modesty, and
we've gotta stop allowing thisworld to move the lines and to
(01:07:42):
make us feel intimidated abouttruth and the stance we should
be taking.
(01:09:10):
It's just the the message isright on that podcast.
Thank you for for you knowpoking the bear.
(01:09:35):
How are you gonna translatethat, Sister Constance?
Go ahead.
Let me see your work with thatcolloquialism.
SPEAKER_00 (01:09:44):
I was cracking up the minute you said it, but I
wanted to translate that.
SPEAKER_05 (01:09:49):
Let me tell you something, Bishop.
She's like the best translator.
I mean, one of the greatestapostolic translators.
I I'm I just made the greatesttranslator stutter.
SPEAKER_00 (01:10:03):
Well, she's anointed, that's for sure.
SPEAKER_05 (01:10:06):
Especially if she translated that.
I don't know what she said, butI didn't get it, I didn't see
anything pop up in the chat, soshe must have got it right.
She's a great translator.
You know, here we are, Bishop.
We've got to start talking aboutthe reality of the hour.
SPEAKER_02 (01:10:29):
And I gotta stop worrying about being cancelled,
gotta stop worrying aboutfitting in with culture, let our
music reflect the truth, let ourlifestyle reflect the truth,
(01:10:58):
reflect the truth, reflète lavérité, let my iPhone reflect
the truth, let my preaching, letit be be filled with anointed
reflections of truth, quereflète la vérité.
(01:11:22):
I want to be in such arelationship with the truth.
SPEAKER_04 (01:11:29):
That when my mouth opens up, hallelujah!
SPEAKER_05 (01:11:32):
Afin que quand ma bouche s'ouvre, that the Holy
Ghost anointing from myrelationship with the truth du
Saint-Esprit qui vient de la dema relation avec la vérité stirs
and draws the hearers to anapostolic altar where they can
(01:11:52):
also get in relationship withtruth.
SPEAKER_02 (01:12:02):
Oh, what a word that we've received today.
Now by the authority of the wordof God, by the power of the name
of Jesus Christ.
SPEAKER_05 (01:12:20):
Let a love for truth, let it overtake every
listener and viewer that thatwatches this now and watches
this later.
SPEAKER_02 (01:12:39):
Let your army be overtaken with conviction today.
That this army would put awaythe flirtation with this world
et que cette anxious puisse nousrepousser la fluctuation de ce
(01:13:01):
monde.
And get in a deeper relationshipwith the truth et nous amener à
une relation profonde avec lavérité, Amen.
God put the cross before us.
Seigneur, mets la croix devantnous, Amen.
The world behind us.
(01:13:21):
And don't let us turn back onetime.
Amen.
Hallelujah.
Let us realize that there is toomuch to do in this hour.
SPEAKER_04 (01:13:39):
To not be overtaken with apostolic doctrinal
holiness conviction.
SPEAKER_02 (01:13:56):
Oh Seigneur, touche cette army, Seigneur.
Take perversion and carnalityout of our systems.
Éloigne-nous de toute perversionet de toute mundanité, de toute
canalité.
Take the hunger for this worldaway from your army.
Enlève de nous le désir dumonde.
(01:14:19):
And put a hunger for truth inour spiritual systems.
Let there be no compromise inthis army.
Amen.
Because there is no more time.
(01:14:42):
Urge me with this that I mightbe clean.
SPEAKER_04 (01:14:49):
Wash me that I might be whiter than snow.
Lave-moi pour que je sois plusblanc que neige.
Let the words of my mouth andthe meditations of my heart be
acceptable unto you, O God.
SPEAKER_02 (01:15:08):
Forgive your army of their sins.
Oh Seigneur, pardonne ton armyde ses péchés.
Forgive us of noity.
Put us in deeper relationship,God.
(01:15:29):
In the name of Jesus.
Dans le nom de Jesus Christ.
Purify our relationships.
Purify notre relation, Amen.
Purify our words.
Purify noses.
Purify no cœur.
Purify our appetite.
(01:15:49):
The things we want to take intoour sister.
SPEAKER_01 (01:15:55):
In the name of Jesus.
I love you, Jesus.
I love you, Jesus.
SPEAKER_05 (01:16:07):
Thank you, dear friends, for being on Apostolic
Mentoring again this Tuesday.
I look forward to seeing you allnext Tuesday, 1 p.m.
Eastern time for another greatapostolic mentoring session.
(01:16:41):
Why don't you all do what youalways do and take yourselves
off mute and greet Bishop Elder?
SPEAKER_04 (01:16:55):
Amen.
Thank you, Brother Elder.
God bless everyone.
SPEAKER_03 (01:17:02):
God bless you.
SPEAKER_05 (01:17:07):
Love you, Sister Clark.
Love you.
Love you, brother and sisterBishop, Brother Daniel.
I love Bishop Estrada.
God bless you.
I love you.
Pastor McKee, God bless you.
(01:17:29):
God bless you.
SPEAKER_03 (01:17:30):
Hasta luego.
Bye bye.
SPEAKER_05 (01:17:31):
Hasta luego.
We'll see you, Sister Aldorette.
God bless you.
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