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(00:05):
Series how to become fluent in English.
So today we're joined with the special guests that we're going
to discuss how to think and how to speak, like a native English
speaker. So before we jump in Angelina,
why don't you introduce yourself?
Okay, well, my name is Angelina and I'm an English teacher.

(00:28):
I'm not actually a native speaker.
So, I had to learn English and to learn how to think in English
actually. And I'm based in friends, and
I've decided to teach English because first, I started to
travel and actually, I had to find a job.

(00:53):
And that's where I started to teach English and I loved it and
since then I'm still teaching English that's writing much my
story, okay? Then other the Russian French.

(01:18):
Sorry, dude. Sorry, I didn't catch that to my
leg. I cut out.
No. I said, sorry, I maybe my
connection is bad. It's other than English and
French do you know any other languages fluently as well?
Or is it just just English and French fluently having really
fluently English friends, but I have another background Turkish.

(01:43):
So I can speak Turkish but I'm not fluent in Turkish because my
parents didn't used to actually talk Turkish at home and so it's
not really comfortable for me tothink in speaking in Turkish.
I see. Okay, okay, I see that are most

(02:04):
year. Students francophones, I'll
steer students speak, French. I'd imagine most of my students.
Yes. Because I mean friends.
Yeah. Probably.
Okay, that's going to say throughout your experiences.
What would you say are some of the most common mistakes you

(02:26):
see, when you're teaching peoplehow to speak English, what are
some of the most common mistakesthat people make that hold them
back? Well, the first thing is to
think in their native language first.
So I guess it doesn't matter if you're French or you know,

(02:48):
whatever first mistake is to think in their own language and
translate in English in their heads and they say that loud.
So it's like, you know, a full process of translating Eating
and language but it's completelywrong at the end.

(03:10):
So the whole sentence it's correct in their in their
language like in French, let's say but it doesn't make sense in
English. So that's the first mistake for
me. That's the most common mistakes
that people do that my students do and to correct that I have to

(03:36):
Like I tell them not to think inFrench, I tell them to do not
think at all. Actually just jump in and talk
in English first and then they will, you know, that like the
whole process of thinking translating, and then speaking,

(03:56):
it's too hard, it's too long even for the brain.
So I tell them to speak in English straightaway, not to
think in France, not to think about in English but just, you
know, slowly speaking English asthe words comes some.
Yeah, that definitely makes sense.

(04:17):
I faced the same challenge when I had to learn Into the French
language. It never made sense so I'd say
yes, especially for people starting out, be sure to try to
develop a good foundation so youcan actually follow the English

(04:38):
figure of speech. I would even recommend what I
typically recommend is that theystart with a grammar book in
their native language, that outlines the differences between
their native language and the English language.
That's not the only Only way there are different paths.
You can take to setting up that Foundation, but at the end of

(05:01):
the day, it's still extremely extremely important that you
understand the differences between your native language and
the English language or else, you're destined to speak broken
English, you're going to speak broken English.
It's definitely gone. Totally agree with you and
that's actually what I'm tellingto my students to start, we, you

(05:25):
know, basic Grandma actually in English.
And then to stop comparing, likenot comparing with Moreland to
stop trying to find out what these stents should be or could
be in English because that's howFrench people actually think

(05:46):
they think. Oh, it's in A fair.
So I have to speak in in a simple or I have to speak in
present perfect simple but that's not how it works in
English. And so what I am telling is to
actually work on the basic of the grandma first and trying to,

(06:07):
you know, compare tenses betweeneach other, when to use, which
tenses, let's say, present perfect.
Of example, and the past simple when to use which one and then
you can actually compare it to to to to French grammar, because

(06:29):
French grandma is really, reallydifficult.
And you can use different grammar tends, to say the exact
same thing, but in English, it'sdifferent.
When you some tense in English means something.
And And you can't really mix it up but that's also one of the

(06:53):
most common problems I see when I teach my students, they try to
find out, you know, the the equivalent in English and most
of the time it doesn't work. So yeah, definitely and
especially as a beginner. I know it, it doesn't seem like

(07:15):
the sexiest method to learn English because it's really slow
and it's really steady. But if you listen to English
with English subtitles and French subtitles or subtitles,

(07:35):
Actually showing how words are used in context, you can clearly
see the translation. So if there's something that's
said in French, that really doesnot translate to English.
It'll give you a pretty good equivalent of the translation
into English. This isn't this takes a lot of
time and you need to start slow and you need to start with

(07:56):
material that you can mostly understand.
You can't jump right into very fast dialogues and very fast.
Oceans or else it won't work. But I would say if you take this
slow and steady way to improve your listening skills, in order
to improve your speaking skills.Then I think that it'll

(08:17):
definitely do wonders for your English.
You're going to be very well spoken as opposed to having all
of these gaps in your English grammar essentially.
Yeah. So what grandma you have to
learn on the books. You could really learn on TV.
I mean it's hard because There'sthe yeah, what, right, it's
hard, like, you can, but to harmonize you need to really to

(08:42):
understand on the books first. Well, the one thing I also, you
know, recommend to my students, when they trying to improve
their English, mostly the listening part.
And the speaking part, I told them to listen in English, I

(09:03):
mean, not really listened, but The here in English.
So they have to recreate the idea of you know, walking in the
street when they are I don't know, let's say in London and
for that they have to go to Channel TV channel or podcast in

(09:26):
English and just let it let it play around the day while they
are doing. Something else.
So the idea here is not to focuson what they're saying or to
understand what they're saying, the idea here is just to get
your brain and you're here used to the sound because again in

(09:51):
French, we don't have that french-speaking.
It's not like the sound speakingyou, you learn on the books, you
can actually learn. You can start to teach, you can
start to speak English. Each other speak French.
Sorry. I mean you can try but in
English it all depends on, you know, the intonation, the accent

(10:14):
and the pronunciation, all of them are really important in
English. So before also to, you know,
speak with someone or trying to understand someone first, you
need to get used to the sound and then used to some words and
then after some time, I'm you'llstart to understand, you know,

(10:37):
one word or meaning, or a phrase.
I even the full, you know, podcast or movies or whatever,
you're actually hearing but not to focus on them, on the sound,
not to focus on the TV, or know what you're hearing.
You need to do something else. Your brain has to think that
you're not in French that you are in Australia, or you are in

(11:03):
in America or Canada. And that's how, you know, you
start to you start to condition your brain.
You start to tell them to tell him, sorry that you have you're
not in French and he has to workdifferently in order to
understand and to survive in a different environment.

(11:27):
And that's, you know, that's thefirst not the first step but
that's one of the first steps toreally engage with the Language
and that your brain start the process of learning a new
language. yeah, I know that thattotally makes sense and another

(12:00):
dated with the English language versus the culture associated
with the French language or any other language.
It's usually quite different andthere's usually a lot of
nuances. So even in terms of what is
formal or what is informal, whatis polite and what is impolite
versus this whole entire social norms are different as well.

(12:21):
So that's another aspect that people usually just develop with
time. They can usually kind of sense
it. They can feel it out but For
some people who speak certain languages as their first
language, it's not always as obvious unfortunately.
So yes definitely and I see about 17 of you guys came in

(12:43):
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(13:06):
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So and the massoud sends a flower.
Okay, thank you. Okay.
So do you ever notice that Angelina that people have

(13:27):
difficulties adapting to the culture of a new language?
You think that they still use French mannerism?
Eames and French manners, French?
Yeah, when they speak in English, that's also one of the
most common issues that studentscan have.

(13:48):
And also that, I, I hide when I went to Australia, because I
lived there for two years and I think that was one of the first
most difficult part is the culture.
The differences in the Check theway you talk the way you think,

(14:09):
you know, it's one thing to learn a new language and to, you
know, how to think in English atspeaking English, but it's the
other thing. It's another thing to live in
the country and trying to adapt to this country because it's not
the same thing. Like the way I used to talk in
French, I can't actually talk inEnglish and the way I used to

(14:32):
talk in English in Australia aregoing, talk like that.
In French because, you know theythink it's rude to be as you
know as straightforward or to say things like that.
And I'm sorry any Australia whenI was there for Australian
people that was very you know hypocrite to talk like how I

(14:53):
used to talk in French and that's actually weird but at the
same time interesting and also, you know, sometimes and
comfortable because I'm trying to say something and someone
doesn't really understand the meaning.
And at the end, you just completely lost, you know,

(15:15):
English language. If you have to talk in French in
English, you don't even know. But that was also very difficult
to. And that's also what I am what I
say to my students to watch TV or to listen podcast, or, you
know, anything because they needto To see how English people

(15:39):
talk, how English native speakertalk, because that's also really
important to see. Look the way that even me, the,
the sentence structure is completely different, not in the
grammar books, not in the sense of, you know, theoretical, but
they tend to do the tend to speak like that because because

(16:03):
they don't think like us, that'sAnd reverse in French when we
have to actually compare betweenFrench in English.
The way we think it's completelydifferent, we take things
reverse so like French people. They take the long road, they
take the long and difficult roadbut English speakers.

(16:28):
They tend to take the shorter route, the the simplest and the
easiest road. So even the way you think, Think
it's completely different. And that's also really difficult
to just to, you know, people whoare learning English.
Yeah, for sure. Yeah must be especially with

(16:50):
written to correct me if I'm wrong.
I think written French is a lot different than spoken French.
So it's It can get quite wordy at something.
I could take two words to say inEnglish is like ten words in
French just like that. So it's yeah, it's yeah,
exactly. Yeah, it is challenging and then

(17:12):
I'm sure all the other languagesas well, have their own unique
challenges to especially the languages that don't follow the
same alphabet. That's a whole another hole.
So that's and I also recommend to this is something that I hear
a lot. A lot of people have a

(17:34):
preference for only learning English from native English
speakers. But I would say, especially if
you're a beginner, you should try to find somebody who is
bilingual and knows your native language and the English
language and they can explain the process that they took to
become fluent in English and they could probably make your

(17:54):
life easier and help you learn aquicker than they.
They did because of all the mistakes are all the experience
that they gathered through that time.
So I think that is a little bit underrated.
I usually yes, yes, fit. These things actually noticed
that, you know, some of the evenon my online students, they try
to find native speaker. And I was I like if you really

(18:20):
want to learn English like more slowly and steadily, maybe try
to find Your your teacher in your native language and and
bilingual has to say and learn English, because it's not
because I'm not English, that I am not a native English that I

(18:44):
don't speak English very well orI can teach it.
I have an accent, I have definitely French accent but
that's fine. I mean that's not something that
But most people don't like it because I don't know for other.
I can't speak for, you know, students from other countries.

(19:05):
But in French, we have this thing that when you speak
English, I don't know how I could actually really understand
why they doing this because it'sclearly doing on purpose, you
know, it's not something natural, but the French accent
like the really strong French accent when people, you don't

(19:30):
talk like this and that and and talk like with a French accent
in a really strong like that, it's actually the doing on
purpose, they don't want to takethe English accent because they
think if they take if they, you know, try to speak with the
eglish English accent, people will laugh at them and or people

(19:53):
will think that you know, they are How can I say this?
There's a word for the it and doesn't come like when you think
too much of yourself, you know, when you want to show off,
people still think they're like a pretentious.
And yes, exactly pretentious. It's the, but yes, pretty much.

(20:19):
So that the action they don't want to take the accent and I
don't understand why. And I'm like, that's okay.
You can people won't laugh at you.
And even if they do, I mean That's fine, that's totally
fine. You have to, you have to be, you
know, be able to laugh at yourself.
Be able to, you know, not take it personally.

(20:42):
They don't don't trying to be mean or anything, but French
people is they just don't want to like it if they don't want to
bother or if they don't want to try, if they scared of what
people could think about them. But there's something different,
something, you know, more personal than the way or then,

(21:08):
you know, because some let's saythat I like some letters or some
sound, you have any English thatwe don't have in French and same
thing opposite. You know, we have some sound in
French that you don't sound. You don't have any in English.
Let's say the most French peoplesay this is a because we Have

(21:31):
that but it's really easy to correct that it's really easy to
say and they don't want to do it, it's like you know potential
so they think it's not the way they have to do it.
So there is also this thing that's probably the third most

(21:51):
common mistake I see is more personal people have to get
over. You know, all the judgment and
get over this kind of stuff, andthey have to try, they have to
speak and not be. And I be afraid of what other my

(22:15):
what others might think of them.Yeah, and it's a touch on that,
but do you think that somebody? So, after saying all that, do
you think that somebody should strive to speak like a native
English speaker? Or do you think that they should
just Embrace their accent and accept their accent for me?

(22:38):
The accent wasn't really the problem.
I mean, being least accent, it'snot really important.
What you really need to eat snowon the The reason why all the
pronunciation but your accent it's actually who you are.
So if you want to erase it, wellthat's personal.

(22:59):
That's not really you know, straight it's not necessary.
No, it's not nothing really necessary.
I mean I don't want to sound English.
I don't want to sound like an American or English or whatever.
I try not to sound too French. Because I know that's really,

(23:19):
really strong accent, but but other than that, no, that's not
necessary. Okay.
So like in other words, you should have a good balance of
both. I would.
Yeah, I mostly agree with what you said.
I would say that Clarity is really the most important thing.
Can you be understood by native speakers like myself?

(23:42):
Can you understand when native speakers like myself speak to
you if you can do that? And honestly, You could probably
get by traveling anywhere in theworld at some distinguished.
So that's another thing I'd say,for a lot of people, if your
goal is just to travel and be able to have basic conversations
with other English speakers, youdon't really need to learn past

(24:04):
the B2 level, I would say. Hey look, I agree with you.
You can do most of the basic things in life as an English
speaker. And even a lot of native English
speakers struggle with English as well.
So that's also another thing to keep in mind.
I mean, it's not that cut and dry, but yeah, with that being

(24:29):
said, there has to be a balance though because I don't mean to
pick on French people, but especially with French people.
It's really difficult for them to learn pronunciation.
I see in Koosh because exactly the letter H, they have an
extremely difficult time with the letter, H, the easy there.

(24:52):
Anything that begins with h-happy will say happy whatever.
Yeah it's it's so I mean we havethat exactly.
But thing is in French. The age son doesn't exist.
Okay? Right when we have hate, we have
age that's it that's only on thereason poem.
Yeah the thing. The is so the sound.

(25:13):
Hey h, the happy or the house for French people.
That's really hard because when we think of, when we speak, if
you really pay attention on how they speak in French, because
French is also a natural sound. So when you speak French

(25:34):
sometimes you, you know, you breathe or some time you exhale,
The yeah. Okay.
So like the H sound. So when you want to say eat
while they say hit, You know, but that's that's this part.
This is why it's difficult. And this is why they mix the age

(25:55):
son with happy and happy. It's because sometimes in
French, when you speak with nasal sound, you have to breathe
the yoga to Exhale, the air, andthat's why you have the sound
comes out of our mouth. And that is why some words in
English? We put the H sound and stuff,
that's why sometimes we don't, And that's something they really

(26:18):
need to focus on when they speakEnglish to really try to think
of the word age where there is the agent when there isn't her
and not you know, eat and not heat.
Exactly. But it's difficult.
It's difficult for them. Yeah, because especially if

(26:40):
you've gone your whole life, let's say you went 30 years of
your life speaking that way. And now It's I'd never going to
try to change your patterns, you're going to try to learn
English at age 30 or something like that.
I mean it's it is really difficult for certain people but
nothing is too difficult to practice for.
I would say, once you practice training your mouth to speak a

(27:03):
certain way. Once you say something a hundred
times a thousand times ten thousand times it's going to
feel natural eventually. So it's but at first I know a
lot of people get discouraged because they begin to realize in
the early stages of learning andEffort.

(27:26):
This is actually going to take alot of time.
They slowly start to notice, oh,this I'm actually not going to
become fluent in English overnight.
I'm not going to become fluent in English and like one week or
two weeks like it's going to. It's going to take quite some
time. They understand how much work
actually is involved and learning a new language.

(27:47):
And then, unfortunately, that's where a lot of people quit.
For they really get started. And that's, that's also one of
my challenges as a teacher, because, you know, students are
people who wants to learn English.
They came to, they come to me and they ask me, you know, how

(28:08):
long it will take to do in orderto speak English?
And that's a really tricky question, because I don't want
to discourage them, but at the same time I don't want to lie to
them so and also it depends on people, I know you can't really
give give them a timeframe. For example, for me it took me

(28:29):
probably six months to become fluent in English, so B1 B2
level but it was living in Australia.
But even so some, I know some ofmy friends.
They've been also to Australia and they came back without the
same level that I have and that I did back then.

(28:52):
So it's So depends on people, you can't tell them, you know,
go and leave and go to Australiaand America for two years or six
months and you'll become fluent.You can also do that at home but
most people, they don't really realize, you know, the time that

(29:13):
the effort that you have to put into and they think it's work.
And so straight away. We start with the wrong foot,
they really need to. And so that's what I'm telling
them, they really need to spend time with the language.

(29:33):
Don't think as a work, don't think as something difficult.
Don't think of, you know, something that you have to learn
think that's something. You enjoy being with.
Otherwise you won't, you will bediscouraged.
Otherwise you'll see that after one week, two weeks, or even One
month, two months. You'll be discouraged because

(29:54):
you'll get the opportunity to speak with English speakers
mostly when you live in Paris orOlio more where I live because
we have a lot of Americans in tourists here so you can
eventually become you can't you can't you can be discouraged
because you know you want it. You're like, okay I'm Learning

(30:18):
English for quite some time now.And I can't even, you know,
speak English or I couldn't evenhave a proper conversation even
with the tourist. Well, it's not because you did
something wrong or because you took the wrong book or the wrong
school or, you know, the wrong teacher.

(30:38):
It's just you need to spend timewith a language, really need to
spend time with the language. In, you need to feel comfortable
with your teacher. Need to be comfortable with, you
know, the program, you're takingonline.
Don't fall into the Trap. Like some thing, I can see on
the internet learning English without doing any grammar or

(31:03):
learning English without learning any, you know, past
simple tense has things like that.
Don't learn into that truck. Don't fall into that trap.
Sorry and just spend time with the language and the best way to
spend time with the Geez, to do the thing that you love the
most. What do you like?
Do you like watching TV? Do you like watching movies?

(31:26):
You like reading? Do you like hearing people talk,
like, put cast something, but you really need to spend time
with our language. So first they have to break, you
know, all the things that we areused to at school.
You know how to learn Thing. They really need to do to break

(31:50):
all the barriers first, and be comfortable with it and say,
okay, well this time frame like six month or one year, it will
go like it would go by. So instead of you know, just
talking about how much you want to speak English.

(32:11):
Well, try to put this time in a good use but I just now start
now by Just hearing English. Not to really listen, not to try
to understand, you know, the full movies movie.
You are the fool, whatever your hearing at the moment.
Just be comfortable. Just be, you know, with the

(32:34):
language first and then slowly, you can start by, you know,
sitting in from the TV and say, okay, well, right now I want to
know, watch the news and I want to understand everything they
say. Okay.
A so five minutes, drink five minutes, you put the sometimes
subtitles on and you say, and you think.

(32:55):
But if you do that for like, youknow, hours at the end of the
day, or at the end of the week, you'll be discouraged and quit
and you won't get back to it. So, that's really important
posts, you know, to You think outside the box, not to think,

(33:17):
like the school tried to, you know, try to teach us how to
learn new things. That's really, that's really
important because that's what people when they came to me.
They second thing they say to meis, I don't want to learn
English the way I did in school.So to actually being

(33:41):
traumatized, young, people are traumatized by his Cole and how
we teach languages. And that's true, how we teach
language at school, and that's ashame.
And I can understand that because even myself, I didn't
learn English at school. I mean, yes.
But obviously, when I left High School, I thought of myself, you

(34:03):
know, I can speak English and again, speak with a native
English, but when I was in Australia, when I left for
Australia, I realized that everything I did in school.
Actually didn't help me. So I had to, I mean, school is
school is a tricky thing becauselearning a language and school

(34:26):
most of the students in the language class, A lot of the
time, they're just required to be there.
They don't really want to be there wreck, so they don't
really have much motivation to learn.
But I would say that if you're astudent who actually has a
purpose for learning the Englishlanguage and you're going
through the Regime in school. I do honestly believe that you

(34:51):
can you can make a lot out of itif you want.
Actually. It all depends like you said,
why you whatever you put into it.
It's actually, it really does end up coming down to that, so,
I mean, yeah. But I'm going to the chats are

(35:12):
piling up here. I'm just going to address some
of them. Hi, from Morocco.
Okay, shout out to Morocco. Thank you, buddy for sharing
Slim from Tunisia. Okay, sweets.
Hi from Canada. Okay, shout out to Canada.
I'm a big supporter of you big five.

(35:33):
Okay, cool. Hi, I'm from Algeria and I'm
just enjoying this conversation.Okay?
Thank you fauzi. Sorry if I butchered your name,
there I'm really bad with names from North Africa and Middle
East, I'm from Africa. It's very interesting.
Thanks and yeah, if you guys have any questions at all, feel

(35:54):
free to ask away and will definitely answer them to the
best of our abilities. Good afternoon from Lakeland,
Florida, Welcome Back. Kevin for English people.
It's difficult to speak and pronounce almost all of the

(36:17):
languages, so it's more difficult for them to teach
non-english speakers. Yep, that's definitely true,
especially for native English speakers like myself.
It's very difficult for us to relate to non-native speakers.
Like for example, well, if I'm helping someone whose first
language is Chinese or Mandarin Chinese, I can only teach them

(36:42):
if they're already at the intermediate level, it's going
to be extremely difficult for meto teach them if they're at the
absolute beginner level, it's going to be almost impossible.
So that is true. And a 369 is there a tip to know

(37:04):
or a better rule to know how to pronounce American or British
English? What do you think Angelina?
Well, there's not one tape. There's not one rule.
There's actually a full chapter,you know, how to pronounce.
I know how to learn American English and British English.

(37:29):
But probably the best advice I can give for the question is to
if you want to focus on AmericanEnglish, let's say, well, you
have to get used to hear American English.
So, spend time with the AmericanEnglish.

(37:51):
Listen, and watch American movies up.
So not really movies, because I'm like, I'm telling them, most
of the actors on the film's, they speak proper English, they
really articulate and Even the full sentence.

(38:12):
You know, that's not the way people in everyday life used to
speak English. So I most recognized advise them
sorry to speak English. A to hearing leash first, on the
news. Like I'm Reckoning this news and

(38:33):
also he would cast. Like I said, when I see here not
listen, that's actually different.
As, you know, when you listen, that's more an active process of
learning. And when you hear its most of
the time, a passive way of learning English.

(38:54):
So you don't trigger the same. This is the same part of the
brain, and that's also really important.
So, I don't know American news, but if you can find out on
YouTube channel, just put American news and let the video

(39:15):
play and try to do something else like doing the cleaning or
doing, you know, whatever you want to do at this at this time,
but you need to focus on something else.
You know, and that's how your brain will think that our K.
I'm not in my comfortable environment, I'm somewhere else.

(39:40):
So you trigger in the part of your brain that you're not used
to, and these parts will try to understand where you are.
And we'll try to understand whatit's saying in order to like I
said, survive, you know, that's actually survival Instinct and

(40:01):
when you trigger that part, well, it become it will become
easier for you. When you come to the active part
of the process learning process and you'll be like, okay, I hear
this sound. Oh I know this word, I can
understand what they Saying, without even thinking, or

(40:23):
without even putting too much ofan effort, but the active, and
the passive learning process aretwo different methods, but they
are essential. You have to do them together.
You can't just here or you can'tjust, you know, do the active

(40:46):
when I say active is like, you know, taking your grammar books,
or sorry, the listening Using audio whatever you want to do in
order to improve your English. So that's the active parts and
the passive part is where you dosomething else and the
environment. Your brain thinks that you're in

(41:07):
a completely different differentenvironment.
That's when, you know, the brainwill start the process learning
process. Sure, that makes sense of what I
what I'm saying it does and I don't want to make it too
complicated, but when you go to large cities like let's say, New

(41:33):
York City or London, or something like that, it's a
really diverse. So, unfortunately, I wish it was
as simple as it's just American English and it's just British
English, but it's so diverse that you're going to get people
who are mixed race and maybe speak a little bit differently.
You're going to get some people,there's going to be lots of
other people who speak English as a second language and they'll

(41:55):
have different accents even in the country like you the United
States of America, each different state is almost like a
different country and the way that they speak with they speak
in Texas it's going to be way different than the way that they
see kid New York. So it's was that?
Yes, it's different and so that,you know, to be able to

(42:17):
understand them, you really needto switch the Excellent.
So don't just stay on one accent.
When you listen to, you know, English otherwise you will won't
be able to understand other kinds of accent.
That's also one of the, you know, most common mistakes.
French. People do, is to only listen

(42:40):
movies and most of the time it'sAmerican in English movies, and
then they start to hear or theiraccents like, you know, for
Rotary sections or even English,or Australian austrians
completely different or what? I mean when I was there, I
couldn't even understand one word.

(43:01):
Like I was like, oh my God, I spent two years, you know,
trying to understand English with movies and with podcast.
And then I went to Australia andI couldn't see anything.
Well, if it makes you feel any better, I can understand
Australians, I Either. It's well like you get to a sir?

(43:28):
Understand like really basic things but when it gets a little
bit extreme, like, if Australianstart speaking in slang
terminology or like, even if Canadians start speaking in
slang terminology and we used a lot of slang that comes from the
city of Toronto. I can almost guarantee that
anyone who doesn't live in the city of Toronto, will not

(43:50):
understand the way that they communicate their slang
terminology. So I mean, don't feel Like
inferior. Don't feel discouraged.
If you can't understand extremely nuanced dialects of
English. Because you're not supposed to,
you're not supposed just, I'd say definitely put more of an

(44:12):
emphasis on the place that you come from or the place that you
plan on spending the most time. That's an English-speaking
region in the world. And then I'm try to adapt to the
way that they speak their basically and of course the way
that they speak there, it's not just To be that cities

(44:36):
demographics type of English. Basically the majority of the
English speakers in that particular region is what you
should. You have it.
I mean that's correct. You have all seven of them, the
slang apart and obviously the slang part, when you leave in
you know some part of Canada or some part of United States won't

(44:59):
be the same slang in Australia or in English.
Yeah, but even the accent, even the pronunciation of the same
and and in even the way they, you know, the coach short of
words are not the same. So the simple thing of, hey, how
are you? I can't stand it, I just

(45:19):
couldn't because the accent is not the same differentiation,
it's not the same, it's not at the same place.
I mean, when I say it's not the same, yes, I remember like some,
you know, strong can see me. He's like, hey how I and I'm
like, what what is he saying? Like what?
He's asking me how I am? I I mean, I was lost, I was just

(45:42):
lost and it took me like probably three months to be able
to understand them. So that was long actually, three
months, you know. And you can completely be
discouraging. I just wanted to go back home.
I'm like, oh my God. You know, I can't do anything.
I can't work. I can't speak with them.
I'm not Just and then when I wanted to like when I wanted to

(46:08):
go back to friends when I wantedto quit that's when I started to
to understand them because most of the time it's like that it's
when you feel tired, it's when you feel like, you know, you
spend too much time, or you spent too much of effort, and
you feel like you're not? You're getting nowhere.

(46:30):
It's actually Where You Are. Being somewhere.
So you just need to, you know, stay right where you are and
just keep doing the work you're doing.
And that at some point, it will just click away clicks.
The brains goes to another level.
Yeah, it's yeah, it's normal to be uncomfortable.

(46:51):
That means you're growing if you're outside of your comfort
zone, so, yeah, that's that's definitely true.
And the other thing I was going to say was, yeah, I'm I'm sure.
Bob the Canadian, he's a good, good English teacher.

(47:11):
We were talking about if Mandarin Chinese or any other
language would eventually surpass the English language and
become a more popular language. But he had an interesting take
and he thought that English willreplace English.
Basically, as you can even, see if you're active on social
media, if you're active on Tick,Tock, you can already see
there's New Slang terminology the younger generation is

(47:34):
speaking completely differently,based.
Great English will probably replace English.
And then there's also so many different dialects of English
like we just discussed. So it's it's never ending kind
of and even native English speakers.
Like I said earlier we can't really understand each other in

(47:55):
very particular situations, so that is really normal.
So whatever you do. Don't drive yourself, crazy
trying to learn every single accent, just focus on the one
that that's the most. A lot of people from France,
come over here to Canada, and they don't understand quebecois.

(48:17):
They don't understand the back way, speaking French.
So it's the same thing. Yeah, same thing.
So, we have another question here.
Quantum, please, how to speak very well in English from a

(48:37):
French country. I'm trying to speak but
sometimes I can't pronounce the The words in English, sometimes
I forget some words, it's not easy, like you said, because I
have to start English class in April.
I can't speak very well in English, very interesting to
speak, okay? So you have trouble pronouncing

(48:59):
words. Sometimes you forget words,
Speaker. Well, it's just started to learn
English since April. It's very early.

(49:19):
I mean, you, he just started. So that's normal.
If you can, you know, pronounce some words or sometimes.
Sometimes, if you forget words, that's just normal at this age.
I mean so So same, same tip as ever.
Some advice on that as ever, if you want to improve your

(49:42):
English, just spend time with the language, do the thing that
you love. Most.
Do you like reading? Do you like the even music can
help you in a different way? Of course, but you can learn
like that or you can just watch TV or Here, news are here, but

(50:06):
Castle. Listen, whether wants to talk in
English and slowly, you will learn and slowly.
You will remember words. Yeah.
Yeah, there's no would say, yeah.
There's there's no, there's no magic bullet.

(50:27):
There's no quick solution to learn English like in a few
weeks or a few months. I know on the internet, there's
a lot of stuff floating around saying, become fluent in English
and one week become fluent in English one day, bubble, buddy.
I'm sorry, it's not true. It's not true.
Like it's just a marketing way. It's now It's totally normal,

(50:52):
it's totally normal to be uncomfortable.
In the beginning, you have to get comfortable being
uncomfortable, you have to manage your expectations, and
you need to understand that by repeating the same, kind of
mundane tasks, but if you repeatthem over and over and over
again, it really will become natural.

(51:16):
In basketball or kick a soccer ball for the first time or if
you're learning how to play an instrument for the very first
time after a ton of repetition, it will become natural if you if
you have the mindset to continuedoing it for years to come.
Yes, exactly. So be patient that's the word

(51:41):
that foxy Deb's. Speaking of American English and
British English as an ESL. I have to learn words from both
ways of the language. As a result I sometimes speak
British words in American pronunciations.
Yes yes. So when you were learning
English Angelina, did you learn because you're in France, did

(52:06):
you learn like American English or Australian English?
Because he went there or BritishEnglish or was it well at
school? It's written.
Be Shameless, okay? Okay, there's no American
English, there's no strain in the leash, there is one leash
and it's British pretty much like that at school, okay?
But again, that's not the way you learn language.

(52:30):
So I didn't really focus, you know, the way of one words in
American or this word in American or this word in
English, the book because it's more about vocabulary.
Right. Okay, so first, as a ASL and

(52:50):
English teacher, but from another country, the first
thing, you know, I teach it's not vocabulary, its grammar,
it's the speaking, it's the pronunciation, but again, the
pronunciation in English, in English, it's like almost not
the same, but the in English. There is a, like I said, the

(53:15):
foundation. Okay.
So start with the foundation. Like the word.
Start start in English American or English British on English
Australian. It's the same.
Okay, there is no start in different way of saying, and if
there is not another words of saying start, okay?
So don't try to think of, you know, the word in English or the

(53:38):
word in American. Don't try to, you know,
obviously fiance's couch or Fat.But most of English native
English knows the difference now.
So as a French, as a French people, as a friend - I didn't
really, you know, focus on the difference, I was first focusing

(54:01):
on, you know, just understand the proper English when they
speak English, meaning know, thegrammar and some words also.
But after a while, Why laughter,you know, I had a good level of
English. That's where I started to you

(54:21):
know, the difference between theplantation.
Let's say on social media, I dida really long like some time ago
about pronunciation and I know how tricky this is okay, the
pronunciation part because like you said, obviously we have

(54:41):
English had Different language, different pronunciation,
American English and Australian.And so I was you know just
showing a word on the screen andasking people how to read this
word and let's say the word almond okay?

(55:02):
In British they don't pronounce the L they say, almond in
American, they say allmond that's technicality.
Almost know what I I mean it's not it's not really important at
first, okay? It's not really important.
If you say an English word in American, I mean that's not even

(55:26):
a mistake for me, it's not even a mistake.
It's just, you know, showing to students.
And even to to native English speakers that you can speak
English in a general way. You can speak American English,
you can speak British English. We can speak You know, any kinds
of English, actually. So being it's not really, you

(55:50):
know, a war but like the fighting of the arguing between,
you know, some pronunciation in American English or even British
English sometimes. Just, I think that this is, you
know, only English English speakers problem.
Not any other people problem in any other people problems.

(56:13):
The for, for Learners, or for teacher.
I mean, that's totally fine. They won't even your students.
They won't even notice that you were speaking in American or
English word. You know what I mean?
Instant even wrong. Way of pitching, it's just a way

(56:34):
of teaching English. So I just, you know, advice to
this teacher that not to put Much, you know, if for its on
this or not to bother too much on this, that's not really
necessary or important part. Yeah, I would agree for most

(56:58):
instances and for most people, yeah, it doesn't really matter
that much and like we even touched on earlier native
English speakers. A lot of them don't have good
English grammar, a lot of them are not able to communicate.
It's a lot of people who speak English as a second language,
who could communicate better than a lot of native speakers

(57:18):
and certain parts of the world? Particularly America don't mean
to insult the education's a little bit bad there, a lot of
places, but yeah. And and again like we talked
about earlier, you only really need to get to like the B2 level
to be able to get by in most situations around the world.

(57:41):
Like I would only focus Asan, the nuances between American
English and British English. If you're like the president
delivering a speech, thank you. Going to be criticized on
everything you say or do on the highest level, maybe it makes
sense, but we're dead. A lot of people listen to me in

(58:07):
a lot of people who follow me, they're actually English
teachers in foreign countries and they're trying to teach
English as a second language to other people.
So for you as an English teacherand maybe actually pretty
important to know these differences, but for most
people, I wouldn't get too hung up on it.

(58:28):
It's it's not the end of the world.
Yeah, so exactly. It's not the end of the world.
If yeah, then the well, but he high from France.
Okay, shout out to you. Foxy that.
Thank you for the insightful advice.
Okay, you're welcome. All right, so we're approaching

(58:48):
the one hour mark. So I'm going to ask you the
final question that I asked to everyone who I interviewed,
Okay? So, Let's say someone in France
comes up to you, right? They only know, French, don't
know. Any English they come up to you
and they say Feet in America. I need to learn English needs

(59:11):
get to at least the B2 level andthey asked you Angelina.
What do I need to do to get there?
And how long is it going to takeme specifically?
How long can I expect it to takeme to get there?
How would you advise that person?

(59:33):
That will give the same advice. Actually, I'm if you want to
like you, it also depends on howmuch time you have left before
to, to go to, you know, America,let's say.
Do you have, do you need to go there in one big time?

(59:54):
Just this month as soon as possible.
What's this - what's the quickest way I can get from a
beginner to be too? How long will it take me soon as
possible? There is no quicker way, it's
not. But because this person will be
very motivated. Okay?

(01:00:16):
I would recommend to do several things at a time.
Like, the listening part is the pronunciation part and also the
Reading part. So, the grammar, the reading,
The reading is the grammar, the listening part is well you when
you listen, you know, the TV butnot movies.

(01:00:38):
And then the pronunciation part will be to imitate.
So do these three things every day.
As long as you can and when you feel comfortable, just buy a
ticket and go and try. Try to speak English and been

(01:01:00):
shopping, and don't be afraid because that will be scary.
That's for sure. That will be awesome very
challenging because some people can learn English in six months,
some people can learn a language, very easy and quickly,
some don't so you can really give it time time frame, but you

(01:01:22):
just have to keep trying until you succeed.
So, So that's the thing I would recommend just do listen.
Listen listen, listen and then buy your ticket flight cape, and
then just go there and try to talk, try to speak.
So basically don't worry so muchabout the outcome.

(01:01:44):
Just make sure that you're consistently working towards
your goal essentially. Okay.
Yeah, I would say like yeah, if I had to answer that my short
answer to the question would be,it depends how much time you put
into it if you put in 1 hour pera day, every single day and it's

(01:02:06):
structured you have someone who I think if you put one hour in
every single day, Can maybe get conversational in English?
I think in probably. Around a year more or less?

(01:02:27):
Well, you depending on, that's depends on so many things, you
know. Yeah, there are a lot of
nuances. It's not just about, you know,
that the time you put into it, it's not just about the teacher,
it's not just about the books. It's not just about the
listening part, it's also personal.

(01:02:48):
You need to break the but some barrier first.
Yeah. In to be confident, you need to
think. You need to tell yourself that
you can do it. That's really important to know.
And then, and then depends, and then, you know, some, some
equation will work with one person but not with another.

(01:03:08):
You just have to, you know, try different methods.
If you, if you have also, that'sanother thing, you know, people
don't have really a lot of moneyto put into a teacher.
I can understand that, because sometimes can be, you know, a
budget, So, but if you can't take an English teacher, try to

(01:03:32):
to follow as many as you can on social media.
Just listen, but cats like this one, just, you know, but as much
time as you can in, they don't try to quantify actually.
And then when you feel tired, maybe stop.
Would you break? But let's say, if you are, if

(01:03:53):
you have to go, Go in America inthe quickest way or the as soon
as possible. You don't have time to think
about. Okay.
I have to d 2 weeks. So I have six months to learn
English, not just jump into it and do some work and try to
spend most of their time in English.

(01:04:13):
Even if you work like on your brakes or on your, you know,
when you take your coffee or when you just wake up, or when
you take a break first. So, when you drive, when you You
have to print like all the little time that you have in
English all the time until you sleep and then you start over
and then you go and then you speak.

(01:04:36):
Yep. Yeah, that is, that is a very
valid point. That's very true success.
It's usually never linear. It's usually always a zigzag, a
lot of ups and downs, so yeah, no, I actually actually do agree
with that and really it says, hifrom Italy.
Hello, Maria. We're leaving now unfortunately,

(01:04:58):
but thank you for joining the stream.
Okay, so before we close up, angeleno, where can they find
you on social media? They can find me pretty much
everywhere on Facebook, on Instagram.
Also, on YouTube on Tick, Tock just write English with Angelina

(01:05:21):
and you'll find me. Near future.
What, how exactly do you go about, teaching your English
students? I'm sorry, I couldn't
understand. Sorry.
Yeah, I think the connection cutI was going to say.
Yeah. Are you working on any new

(01:05:42):
projects of in the near future or what?
Exactly how exactly do you go about your teaching Services?
Well, I teach on, I mean, I don't do sessions like
one-on-one sessions or I don't know teaching life anymore.

(01:06:02):
I'm doing online course, online.Lessons.
Sorry and I wanted to try something completely different.
I didn't want to, you know, put like a long online program.
Like you have to do all the programming part of the
listening, part of things like that part.

(01:06:22):
You know, I wanted to do like small online lessons.
Let's say on a very specific subject.
For example, making a small talkand you have three to five or
seven videos, but very short probably 30 seconds or 10

(01:06:44):
minutes and then you have interactive exercises that you
can train, you can also, you know, training with.
I just put that online to a AI program where you can speak and
it will tell you If you pronounce correctly or not.

(01:07:06):
But I wanted to try something different.
I wanted to try something more fun and more engaging for people
and more, you know, how can I say this valuable on the daily
life, right? So I did like really small

(01:07:27):
lessons online lessons and you can find on my website and short
online lessons for almost like very low budget.
And and then you just buy the lessons wrong and, and start
doing your the process of the solid, okay?

(01:07:51):
Okay. Get out.
And for us it's just Arc Englishand all platforms were easy to
find Arc English and yeah, that's all for today.
And we'll see you guys next time.
Okay.
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