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Episode Transcript

(00:01):
OK, and we are live. Welcome to the 33rd episode of
our series How to Become Fluent in English.
Today we're joined with a very special guest and we're
basically going to talk about the best strategies to improve
your skills as an ESL learner. Okay.
So, Priscilla, why don't you introduce yourself to the
audience? Hey there I am Priscilla, but

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better known as teacher pricks. And as I always like to say, I'm
teacher pricks and I'm going to help you talk to anyone,
anywhere, anytime in English. That's what I believe in.
I think English is a beautiful language that brings people
together. And when you speak such
language, you are able to have better relationships, have
better opportunities or simply enjoy life.

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You know, having access to millions of amazing channels,
news, music, movies. So I absolutely love the English
language and my goal is to make students feel the same.
Feel the same connection and feel that English is possible.
Communication is possible if youhave the right strategies

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perfect, and that's what the people are here for.
Exactly. Very nice to hear.
I'm sure they're really excited to see you.
And do you know any other languages fluently as well other
than English? Well, my native language is
Portuguese. I also I currently study
Italian. I've been studying Italian by
myself for about. Two years, 2-3 years.
It's really fun. I'm really passionate about

(01:34):
learning and languages really. It's something that I love
doing. I wish I had more time to study
other languages, but right now English and Italian okay cool
but useful languages to know. Yeah, it's true.
Yeah, it's fun. And I see some of you guys here

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popping in now, mostly from Facebook and a few from YouTube.
So as you come in, why don't youintroduce yourself, tell us
which country you're from, what your native language is.
And if you have any questions throughout this conversation
here with teacher pricks, feel free to jump right in and we
will address them. So, Joyce, Hello, Joyce.

(02:15):
Welcome to the stream, Cameron. Hello, R FM.
Most welcome both of you Shout out to you.
Welcome back. I'm not.
Hi Musab. Welcome most.
Welcome both. OK Shout to you Musab, the OG.
Welcome back. Welcome back to all the people
who usually come and welcome to the new people, the new faces.

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I know we're doing a different time today, so some of you guys
will be new here, but it's greatto have you as that.
We have a special episode today in store for you.
And if you like to support the platform, if you're on YouTube
or Facebook, you can like the video, help the algorithms, and
yeah, so teacher pricks out of your experience throughout your

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experience because most of the people watching here, they're at
the intermediate level of English.
They can understand most of whatwe're saying right now in
English. Throughout your experience of
helping intermediate learners, what are some of the most common
errors that you see at the intermediate level?
So most common mistakes that prevent people from making

(03:20):
progress in their English skills.
You know, I like when I'm talking on my channel, when I'm
making content. One thing that I always like to
highlight is that your mistakes start at the beginning of the
journey and the routine you had,the the habits you built since
the very early stages of your journey.
They still bring impact, whethernegative or positive, to your

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journey to fluency. So oftentimes I invite the
students to look back. And think of the routine they
had when they started. And in many cases, and this is
what I believe, of course I don't have the absolute truth or
anything, but one thing that I identify in students is that
they rely a lot on translation and then by the time they get to

(04:05):
a better level, a pre, intermediate or intermediate
level. They can't process information
as quickly as they would like to, so there's this delay.
They they freeze because they all their work, their mental
work is in their native language.
Now I'm not going to be a hypocrite and say, oh, you

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should never translate or there's nothing that can be done
in your language, but depending on how you studied.
If everything relied heavily on translation, how do you expect
to react quickly when someone asks a question?
So this is something that I identified at this level.
That's why nowadays I focus on this profile, because I know

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that it's a struggle, It is a big challenge.
So translation is something thatI identified that is a real, a
real challenge, real issue. Another thing is.
You learned the basic conjugations.
You shouldn't learned the basic grammar to, you know, have basic
conversations. But there are two things here

(05:09):
that I also have that I have also identified which are
conjugations. You shouldn't still confuse
present, past and future depending on the region, though.
I have students from all over the country in my Academy, so I
have students, a lot of studentsfrom Brazil, like me.
I'm Brazilian, lots of students from Europe, from Asia, from
Africa. Mistakes are a little bit

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different because there are somecultural mistakes, I like to
say, but they all go back to theconjugations and the ability to
form sentences. And one thing that it's also
connected to the way you study if you never intentionally sat
down to create your own sentences, to create your own

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English story when it's time to get to a higher level, to
something more advanced. That gets very difficult because
you come from a background wherethe sentences were given to you.
Maybe you had to just complete with one word that was missing
or find the mistake in the phrase.
This is really traditional. You know, a traditional way to

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teach and encourage students to study.
But then you get to intermediate.
Someone asks a more difficult question, which leads me to the
third mistake, which is. The the level of complexity,
Maybe it shouldn't worth studying something that was too
easy. And I'm not even talking about
grammar or vocabulary per se, but the subjects.

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What do I love the most about speaking English or Italian?
The ability to go on Google and search for things in English,
but not just to learn English, but to become a better person?
To learn about technology? To learn about history, biology,
chemistry. Latest gossip sometimes, you
know, but to connect English like at a deeper, deeper level,

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and this is what I feel that it shouldn't.
At this level, you're still searching for easier subjects,
perhaps due to lack of guidance and clarity.
So these are things that I have identified at this level.
Well, OK, yeah, and and there's a lot to unpack there.
But uh, something really, reallyit's.
OK. I feel like he talks too much,

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you know? You're like that'll give me you.
You hey, that's that's that's why you're here though you're
here to talk so but but yeah something really important that
you said. There is people, especially at
the intermediate level, they still tend to translate words
back into their native language.That's a huge mistake I made too
when I had to learn the French language.

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So it's really important to develop a strong foundation at
the beginning, because if you get into the bad habit of
translating words back into yournative language, just like you
said, you're gonna have a reallydifficult time communicating
spontaneously with native English speakers.
And then also as opposed to translating it back into your

(08:07):
head, I would say a good solution could be to associate
imagery with what you say. So subtitles with social media
or YouTube or even a TV show, itcould all help because you'll
actually see the word and how it's applied in a certain
situation, and you can associatethat imagery exactly.

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You can associate that imagery to the actual word as opposed to
having to translate it back intoyour head.
And honestly, that's I guess howinfants would learn how to speak
English as well, because they grow up without any like
awareness of any other languages.
They just see and associate an action with with words

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essentially. So yes, that is true.
And looking back to when I started my journey to fluency, I
I had this teacher and I like tocall teachers teachers because I
am in Brazil, you know, Latin America.
Well, we have this culture of calling language coaches

(09:08):
teachers. It is sometimes some people get
really like no, you shouldn't say teacher.
And it's more like an A sweet way to call someone who teaches
English, even though I know thatnot everybody likes that.
But I had this teacher once and I was at the early stages of

(09:28):
learning English and I fell intothe strap of translating things.
I I was always in love with music.
I loved music and every time I was studying I tried to
translate songs. And one day, because I I, I did
go to a school, even though I studied most of the time alone.
You know, I I think if I was lucky, I had five minutes to

(09:52):
talk to the teacher at the school and he would speak in
Portuguese, never really in English.
So I had access to explanations of like the lesson what to do,
where to find the CD's to study at the school.
And that's basically that. And I had no Internet.
Hey, I'm a little old, so I had no Internet access when I

(10:13):
started studying. Yeah, it was sad.
But I eventually I I had access to Internet.
And then he gave me this piece of advice that I I've cared to
life, which is, well, you know, what do you wanna translate the
song or do you wanna be? Do you wanna understand the
story behind it? Because languages are different.
There's culture. You know, there are local

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expressions. There's so much beauty in
understanding the song in the original language.
And that's when I realized, like, oh, at the time, well, he
didn't use the exact words I'm using right now.
I'm embellishing what he said. But that really, you know, hit a
nerve. And I was like, well, OK, And

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after that, I stopped translating the songs and I
started like, really forcing my brain to.
OK, connect the dots. And when I didn't know a word, I
had a physical dictionary, you know, English to English.
I bought a dictionary English toold school, my friend.
I can find things pretty quicklyand I would look the words up

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and I would write short explanations.
I would read short books in English and I would write
explanations in English and knowmore in my language.
And I would spend a few hours doing that.
And that's what made me stronger.
And I was able to think much more quickly.
That's why in six months I was speaking.
I was not stuck because I reallywent from nothing like 0

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background to speaking in six months, to the point where the
school was so shocked because they didn't get the result.
And they were not really helpingme because I'm not taking the
credit from the teacher. But I didn't sit down with the
teacher for an hour and we spokein English like, oh, how's it
going? No, I didn't have that.
I had to sit down, you know, andstudy by myself, take notes,

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practice. I practiced my speaking like
crazy by myself in the afternoons, you know, every day
in my house. So this is something that made
me stronger and that's what I tried to pass on to students
that it's a long term project and if you don't pay attention
to how you started, you will. You have some big challenges on

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the road. You'll you'll struggle in that
case, and yeah, that's that's super important.
And for the people listening, yes, you you absolutely need to
take it upon yourself if you want to become fluent in the
English language. Okay.
Sitting in a classroom, doing classes, watching the videos on
social media, that's good. It can be supplementary to your
learning, but you really are going to have to put in the

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repetitions on your own if you really want to make this thing
work. If you really want to see the
results that I know most of you guys want to see here and the
chats are piling up, I'm going to address some of them here.
ABBA Chan, Welcome back, ABBA. Hello, Arfat.
Today, don't you provide the chance to join in this live
program? Yes, Arfat.

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I'm going to send the link in the chat.
So you guys, we may do a little Q&A at the end of this live
stream. So towards the end I'll send the
link in the chat and if any of you guys want to call in with a
few questions, we'll we'll open up to you guys.
So we'll do that. But for the time being, if you
have any immediate questions, you can just put them in the
chat and we will address them moon soon.

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So happy to see you. OK, shout out to you.
Welcome back Do. Hello from Eritrea, that's East
Africa. OK, shout out to you Moussa.
Actually, I don't care about watching films to improve my
language. Is it having a bad effect?
Well, Musab, like I've even spoken about earlier, and

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Priscilla, you may disagree withme on this.
I actually think that it's much more beneficial to watch YouTube
videos, interviews and podcasts and things that simulate more
realistic situations in English as opposed to dramatic films and
TV shows. Like if you watch a superhero

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movie, you may never come acrossa situation in real life where
you would apply some of the terminology that you learn in
that fictional setting, I guess.So I'd say if you want to get
better at your business English skills, for example, it would
probably be more beneficial to watch or consume content that

(14:35):
has to do with the subject that is really relevant to your
particular lifestyle. But yeah, would you agree that
TV? Yeah, I I, I, I agree.
Actually, if you ask me how manymovies I watch, I don't watch as
many. You know, I I have to think

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about my reality nowadays. In the past when I started,
sometimes I had access to movies, so I watched them
because I didn't have access to YouTube when I was starting like
20 years ago. Some years ago, you know, some
decades ago. But today you have so many
options options you just have towatch out for the the danger of

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having too many options. Okay.
But I what I like to say is focus on people speaking
speaking in English, not necessarily teaching English.
So if you prefer podcasts, go for it.
Personally, I don't like anything that is too long.
Because I like having a routine when I'm working on my listening
comprehension, when I'm studyingEnglish.

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And if an audio file is one hour.
It's not that it's impossible towork on it.
But I'm thinking as a student, as perhaps a mother who has to
take care of her children. Or a father who has to go to
work. Or a student who has school
assignments, college work. Someone who has a life.

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You know you have other things to do.
So sitting down to just work on your listening, you you you need
to do certain activities to improve your comprehension.
So I'm always careful about the length, the duration of the
file, you, you you listen to or you watch.
But I don't think not watching movies will be detrimental to
your fluency. I I think you can pick other

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things. You can watch interviews, as
Avery said, you can watch short videos.
You can watch short scenes. But in terms of movies, now the
thing that you said that it's not as realistic, then I have to
slightly disagree. I feel that it depends on the
movie, depends on the kind of things you're interested in,

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because at the end of the day, you have to watch something
that. You know, moves you that really
inspires you to to, OK, I want to know this.
I want to know how this works. So it has to be something that
catches your attention and will make you sit down and study.
So it may be a documentary. It may be a movie based on, you

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know, a real story. It may be a superhero movie.
Yeah, it could be. But we do have some unrealistic
elements in movies as you highlighted, as you mentioned.
It really happens, but I I thinkit's it can be productive
depending on how you study, depending on how you combine the
excuse. You know, I love bringing the

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speaking element when I am studying, I if I watch something
in English, my next my next exercise will be OK.
I'm going to talk about it now because I want to practice my
speaking even as a teacher, because I know that if I don't
practice I will forget things and.
It's important to stay on top ofmy game.

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So I think that it can be interesting to watch interviews,
things you're interested in. It doesn't matter if it's a
short, if it's a Ted Talk, or ifit's a Steven Spielberg movie,
as long as you have an emotionalconnection.
OK, I really enjoyed this movie.There was this movie I watched.

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Oh my God, I don't remember the the name of the movie because I
don't watch as many movies. But that movie was so, so
interesting. And it was not a very
unrealistic movie, like, you know, superheroes or dinosaurs.
But it was really interesting. And I learned.

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I learned so much with that movie that I watched again to
study. Then I wrote a movie review in
English. Then I practiced my English
speaking, talking about the movie.
Because it really was something that inspired me.
In a nutshell, the movie talks about this guy that he
daydreamed a lot about the perfect life, but his life

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sucked. His life only turned around when
he stopped dreaming and he started taking action.
Then things started happening and I was like, wow, this is so
amazing because I really like towatch things and and read about
things that will always teach mesomething.
Not necessarily in English, but teach me something.

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And that movie spoke to me because so many times I caught
myself daydreaming and not taking action and then
complaining that my life is not all exciting and fun.
You know and and and knew when. This movie showed in a very
entertaining way that if you wanna make a change in your
life, you gotta take action and stop dreaming.

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Stop thinking about the perfect life.
Which is sometimes what English shouldn't stand to do.
And I include myself, you know, not just in the English aspect,
that we just think and they dream what things would be like
if we were better, but we don't take the consistent action that
sometimes may cause a little discomfort, a little pain, but
that's what is going to make us feel proud of ourselves and

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actually achieve results. No, that's well said.
And yeah, that's to tie in with what you just said there.
Yeah, if you're listening to something that actually is more
impactful, something that you'regenuinely interested in or
genuinely seeking out to watch as well, that can definitely
have benefits. And there are pros and cons to
watching, I guess some fiction versus some nonfiction so of.

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Course, yeah, that are that are.I prefer to spend my time on
nonfiction, something that will actually teach me something.
But you can have a little fun and watching something not as
special or meaningful every now and then.
Yeah, yeah, of course. Of course.
Now it says hi, I'm now I'm fromPalestine.

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My or Palestine. Sorry.
My mother tongue is Arabic. I could speak English too.
OK, cool. It's great.
I'm doing the same. That's helps a lot.
OK, great. Chan.
Immersing self into English. OK, Musab, what is her advice
for us to improve our listening,especially for the intermediate

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level? Well, we kind of just went over
that. Musab, I think the, I think the
message or this questions a little delayed, but but yeah, we
basically just basically just touched on that.
Juju. Hi, everyone.
OK, Doctor Youssef. Hi.
I'm from Syria. You're great.
Thank you, thank you. How long does it take to be a

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good English speaker? Six months or more?
Well, I'm going to flip this over to you Priscilla, but my my
short answer my my short answer to your question, Moussa, is it
depends how much time you put into it.
But what would you say is, is 6 months realistic for most people

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or what it take? I I think people I, I, I, I know
it's not the intention but it's a tricky question.
You know, it's you're cornering someone like yeah, you gotta
give me an answer. Six months.
Seven months. Eight months.
How long And it it does depend. But we're speaking in English
right now so it would be nearly impossible for a complete

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beginner to understand. So we gotta establish that we
don't have beginners here. Perhaps we may have what I like
to call the false beginner someone who.
May have spent years studying, but they only understand
teachers. You know, in a safe environment
they are able to catch and, you know, make out information.

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But when they're throwing the real world, it's like, Oh my
goodness, I can't do it. But we're not mostly talking to
those people, we're talking to shooters who are at a
preintermediate or intermediate level.
Therefore, I think that depending on what you do.
How often you do it and the kindof guidance you have And when I
say guidance, I'm not necessarily saying that you need

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a private teacher 101.3 to four times a week or even once a
week. I'm not saying that.
I'm not implying that I feel that you can make great, you can
get great improvement in six months if you're really
committed to doing it. I I I really believe that
because I have helped a lot of people do the same.

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The catch is that we gotta be realistic with what is good and
what is bad. What is amazing, what is fluent.
Even English fluency is sometimes, in my view, a little
abstract because what what I believe may be fluent may not be
what you believe to what fluencyis.
So okay, we got the dictionary definition.

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Okay, Fluency is when well, the definition is you write and
understand well, and you speak well and what is well.
You know, if I need to close a sale in business, and I don't
speak the best English, but I always close the deals, I'm
good, I can do it. But am I the best?
Would I pass a Cambridge examination?

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So, well, yeah, that's a good point because I mean, even in
French, my French is broken and I could still get by.
So, and I'd honestly argue for the English language, for those
of you listening like, I think at the B2 level, you can
navigate your way through life in English quite easily and even
if you make grammatical mistakes, So what native English

(24:27):
speakers might like Myself, we make grammatical mistakes like
every single day too. So I mean it's it, it definitely
depends on what your goal actually is.
And like you just said, what it means to speak well or what it
means to be a good speaker. Because if you just want to
learn it just so you can navigate your way through the
world, you can travel, you can interact, you'll have more

(24:50):
options in terms of who you could communicate with and what
you can do with your life. Then honestly, you can probably
do most of it, if not all of it at the B2 level.
I even only you can disagree. I'm not sure if you agree or
disagree with this, Priscilla, but I would only encourage
people to pursue the C1 or C2 level of English if they wanted

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to pursue higher education, or if they wanted to actually teach
the language to other people perhaps, or if they had a
special situation that requires them to have advanced English,
or if they have a strong purposefor.
Pursuing it if you really have astronger purpose, otherwise
you're gonna be miserable because I was talking to a
student. And then I showed her my

(25:34):
homework and it was like 20 pages of a lot of vocabulary,
grammar exercises. And I was like, I don't wanna do
that, but it's my level and I enjoy not every day, but you
know, I enjoy sitting down and doing exercises that will really
get me stressed and and you know, thinking hard about how to

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answer correctly. But yeah, exactly.
B1B2 are the level, the level ofthe levels of communicators.
And if you want more than that, you it's probably because we
have a very specific goal. But let's put it to something
more practical. Let's say you want to be better
because you have a job and there's something about your

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English at work that you're not happy about.
Then we go to another point. In in what I often talk to my
students about, which is emotion.
And I don't wanna get all emotional here or try to play
the the the shrink. You know the the doctor like Oh
my God. But here's what we're gonna talk
about. But a lot of it when I, I, I

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have, I have helped a lot of people, a lot of students from
different places and the emotionplays its role.
So if you don't feel good, yeah.You could have access to the
best English teacher. You could go to the best
university. You're not going to be better
because you don't feel better. So this is something that I like

(27:04):
working with my students. Maybe you don't know me.
There are many people here who don't know me, but I am a a
master practitioner of of Neuro Linguistic programming and I
study a lot about the impact of our language and our behavior in
our personality. And when I say language, I mean
what we say. To others about ourselves, what

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we say to ourselves about ourselves, our beliefs, the
things we believe in. And they impact our lives, not
just in English, but in everything.
So a few years ago, I had these two students.
They were really, really nice. They were professors at a
university, and both of them wanted to travel abroad to make

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a presentation, you know, in a conference and talk about their
job. They were dentists, one of them.
Was not as advanced, but she wasconfident.
The second one was way more advanced in the English
language, but she was not as confident.
Guess who made the presentation and who didn't?

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The less confident one she practiced.
She worked. She stayed with me for about six
months, six months or a little longer, but less than a year.
And I gave her strategies. She had a lot of work to do at
home, you know? Recording herself, preparing for
presentations, for questions. And she went and did it.

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The second one, she had way morepreparation, but she always
stayed in the preparation because she never felt it was
good enough. And usually when you feel that
way, it's not just the language anymore, it's the emotion.
It's something that is blocking your mind.
And no matter how hard you study, no matter how many
lessons you do, you can't go past this feeling.

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So I feel that fluency at this level, at a preintermediate or
intermediate level, is is mentalwork.
It's not just the language anymore.
It's a combination of the habits, the English habits you
establish and how you see yourself speaking in English.
I love watching my videos, not because I'm a cool teacher, but
because I like to see, you know,I learned from my mistakes.

(29:14):
I get to pay attention all. What did I say wrong?
OK, I'm gonna fix that. Oh, I I moved too much.
And then OK, this was not OK. And I I appreciate that I'm
speaking another language but I will often, if you ask me ohh
what do you think of your English?
Well I think it's awesome and I'm always learning and I still
need to learn more and improve more but I have this positive

(29:36):
mindset that I'm in. I'm in the right direction.
So I think that can, if you wantto improve in six months or in a
year, you will also need to workon your mind.
Almost definitely, Yeah. And yeah, you're gonna have to
be emotionally invested to a degree.
You're not wrong. You're not wrong.
And that's why I always, even when people come to me and they

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send me a message on Instagram or somewhere, they ask, how can
I become fluent in English? I want to become fluent in
English. It's like, well, the very first
question I asked them is what isyour purpose for learning the
English language? Because if your purpose isn't
even strong enough to learn the English language in the first
place, that you're never gonna see it through.
Like, for every 10 people who become fluent in English on

(30:22):
their own, there are probably like 90 people who fail because
they quit before they even get started.
They quit before they can even give themselves a chance or the
opportunity to see results. So I mean, yeah, you definitely
have to have an emotional drive to.
In addition, here is the comparison.
And you said the the the number of people who who achieve and

(30:44):
the number who fail. These people who are failing are
also comparing themselves in a very negative way and
unrealistically because I I don't know your story.
I don't know my neighbor's storyand what my neighbor had to do
to achieve the level they did. But in the, you know, in the
corner of my mind or in many students minds, they're

(31:07):
comparing themselves. Ohh.
But she got it. I didn't ohh, but she got this.
In two months I did it. I know people who were fluent.
In three months I wasn't. I wasn't 6.
But I know people who are in three now.
Is it fair for me to compare myself with them?
No, because I'm stuck. I'm stuck with me, you know?

(31:28):
And the more you compare yourself with others, these
lower your journey gets you knowand more difficult.
It gets just just harder. Yeah.
And I get it though, for the people who do, it's it's kind of
like human nature. It's natural, but it is
important to be self aware of that.
And then try to of course stay focused on your path instead of

(31:51):
looking everywhere else too. So for sure.
And it's hard today too, especially with social media
because it's always in your face.
So it's like, yeah, yeah, it'll be difficult.
Juju says thanks a lot. OK, Problem.
We got you man. Lay.
Amazing, Okay Juju. I want the best way to have
strong communication and fluencyin English.
Yeah, we just, we just touched on that.

(32:14):
Dr. Yusuf Woodpecker app is a good choice.
I've never heard of that, but yeah.
I don't use many apps, so my most common answer is I don't
know it. Yeah, I mean, there you go, Doc
Nation. Eel.
Hello. Hello, Eel Bonjour.
Hope you're doing well. OK, Mousab here.

(32:35):
My level is intermediate. What should I do every day to be
a good speaker or to prove my language very soon?
So we just talked about the mindsets.
So I'm not sure what your exact tangible methods would be for
me. I would really say it does come
down to repetition. You actually.

(32:55):
I think that a lot of English learners underestimate how much
work it actually takes to becomea comfortable and natural
speaker. So they a lot of them like to
listen to a lot of media, they consume a lots.
They can get to a point where they can exactly they can
understand English but they can't quite speak it.
It's because the simple answer is you are not getting enough

(33:17):
repetition training your mouth to speak the English language.
It it it really, you actually have to train your mouth to
actually move a certain way to speak the English language.
And a lot of people underestimate the amount of
repetitions it actually takes. Yeah, but.

(33:42):
It does help. But believe me, once you say
something 100 times, once you express something 1000 *
1,000,000 times, it will become natural with that many.
It does help. I think it's a I don't think
there's a limit to repetition. It's.
I have been repeating the same strategies for a very long time.
Technology has enhanced some of my strategies.
But in the past, OK, I didn't have a phone.
Well, many when I started, but Ihad a recorder.

(34:03):
I bought a recorder, you know, tiny, you know, gadget just to
record voices. You know, they exist.
They still do it. How old are you, by the way?
Yeah, I'm 27. Oh my God, you're good for you.
I'm not that old, but I am a little older than you.
OK. What was I going to say?

(34:23):
OK, OK, your dictaphone. Yeah, my Dictaphone.
Yes, that's what it was, you know, But I I really liked it.
I had a what is that, a Disk Man, you know, like I had like
the CD player and we called DiskMan, you know, I I had that, you
know, and I used it a lot to study.
But yes, this is a problem with students because they they keep

(34:48):
expect. They keep waiting for the
perfect. Scenario when I have someone to
practice with me anywhere, anytime and that's when I'm
going to be, you know, amazing and and fluent.
But if I don't have that, I needto go and search for the second
best thing. So my recommendation and this is

(35:08):
something that I sit down and I do.
Every day, because here I'm talking to you.
We're talking about strategies to teach English, to learn
English on my channel, and I imagine in your channel as well
I am, we're teaching English grammar, vocabulary,
expressions. But how about my?
Moment to study I have to go andand sit down and study things

(35:29):
that will challenge me, not justin terms of grammar but in terms
of life, you know, connecting with my life.
So every time I sit down and study by myself, I have to
practice my English speaking notin my mind but here because of
the muscle training I need to train my mouth to make the
movements that are not so easy for me as a no native speaker.

(35:51):
I sometimes make pronunciation mistakes, and I know that I have
made mistakes here, so I know that I have that in my practice.
I need to be consistent with my pronunciation, work with my
vocabulary, work with my abilityto explain things, ask difficult
questions. And I have to do that by
writing, Yes, absolutely. But I also have to do that by

(36:12):
speaking. So taking having a moment to
work on your English speaking. Consistently, I could say every
day, yes. For me, the ideal scenario is
every day, like five days a week.
Have some days to get some rest and and have a little fun, but
be consistent. If it's three times, OK, three

(36:33):
times a week, you will perhaps work on a little grammar, a
little writing and speaking. Oh, today I'm going to work on
pronunciation and vocabulary anda little speaking, and that's
what is so. Important You have to do this
every day. You need to include a little bit
of speaking, and that's the second best thing you can do.

(36:55):
I I think the Internet has givena lot of power to people in
terms of connection. You can make new friends, you
can, you know, reach people you know in different countries.
We may not use it as wisely, butI also recommend you make
friends. You know, try to to make friends
in English. I I think that's a good thing,

(37:17):
but it's your responsibility. It's not someone's someone
else's responsibility to make you speak, to make you improve.
You know you have to do your share.
And your share is having an organized study plan and
including specific exercises that would make you move your
mouth. And I remembered something.

(37:38):
I was giving a group conversation class to my
students from my Academy and there was student and she I
asked her a question and she started answering.
But as she started speaking, shewas like this, you know, and and
I was like, sweetie, hands off. And she was like, why?
Well, it's it's already hard enough for us to speak English.

(37:59):
We have to make some movements we're not familiar with, and
you're stopping your mouth, youryour jaw from moving.
One thing that I say is native is because they don't move their
mouths as much as we do, becauseyou have been practicing since
you were two. We have been practicing when we
started practicing later on and when by the time we started

(38:23):
practicing the English language,we had already taught our muscle
memory to make different movements.
So we need to exaggerate a little and make more movements.
Exaggerate the movements a little so it gets easier for us
to memorize, so that eventually we don't need to.

(38:44):
To exaggerate the movements anymore.
So this constant movement, OK, sometimes if I'm not in, you
know, in a good week, if I'm toobusy or too stressed or sleep
deprived, I make more mistakes than usual because I'm not
getting enough sleep. I'm not, you know, eating well.
So I have. I go back to the mistakes I'm
making. OK T8 Oh yeah, I'm making a

(39:05):
little bit a few mistakes, OK, Ineed to work on that.
So I sit down and I practice. I exaggerate.
So these are things that make your practice more active.
Don't just read quietly and listen.
And OK, I'm good now. Talk about what you read, even
if it's to yourself, you know, Talk to.
Talk about what you listened. Take notes.

(39:28):
Share your opinion. Critical thinking.
OK, what do I feel about this article?
I like it. Not getting enough for an
intermediate level. What do I actually feel about
this? Has it influenced me in any way?
Do I disagree? Do I agree?
Why? These are the questions you have
to constantly answer if you're studying in order to improve

(39:49):
your language skills in general.Yeah, I know, well said.
And yeah, there you go, Musab. Now you have different ways that
you can physically do it, and ifyou really don't have any time,
well. Even if it's minimal, even if
it's like when you wake up in the morning, first thing, last
thing before you go to bed, justto have a conversation with
yourself out loud when you're inthe shower, just expressing your

(40:11):
thoughts out loud. That's something that I did and
I think it worked. I think those small things
really do add up overtime and itwill make you a more natural
when you need to express your thoughts in any communication
situation here. And it's the 40 minute mark.
So I'm going to share the link in the chat now and you guys

(40:32):
will be able to call in and ask questions if you have any and if
not we'll simply just keep going.
So I'm gonna post in the chat right now.
So I just posted the link. I'm not sure if it's a hyperlink
or not, but you can just copy and paste this and then you can

(40:52):
basically call in via video and we will answer your questions.
Okay, Now I saw an interesting comment here.
Just going, sorry I can't get toall of you.
There's a lot on Facebook here, but there's a good point Arafat
brought up here. Speaking partner is very

(41:14):
important for a person who wantsto improve their English.
The main point is that, however,we don't have access to that.
We do impossible work in Englishif we have that.
So basically you're saying you need a speaking partner, but
it's difficult to access that. There are a lot of free apps,
actually, where you can access alot of native English speakers

(41:37):
or language exchange apps. I know Hello Talk is a good free
one where there's just an abundance of native English
speakers you could do the language exchange with,
essentially. Other than that, it I know it is
difficult for you guys who don'tlive in English speaking regions
or don't have access to a lot ofnative English speakers.

(41:57):
But Priscilla, typically how do you advise those students if
they live in a country where it's just harder to access
English speakers? Here in Brazil, I know for a
fact that if you don't use theseapps, these apps, it'll be hard
for you to find someone. But one thing that I always like

(42:18):
to emphasize that it's my responsibility.
My responsibility to make it work even though I don't have
the best options available. And one thing that I I like to
point out is that having someoneto talk to but having no
direction, no method may not be as efficient as people think.

(42:41):
Because sometimes we think, oh, if I if I just have someone to
talk to me, my problems are solved.
Not necessarily. If you don't know how to
organize a conversation, how to instigate the person to keep
talking, how to make them, you know, engage in the
conversation. And I'm not saying that's an

(43:03):
art, you know, but it's not as easy as people think.
And what I see in a lot of theseapps is that people start and
then they don't know how to keepgoing.
And the conversations are a little, you know, empty because.
They don't have the direction orthe guidance to make it

(43:23):
appropriate for an English learner and, and and The thing
is, as I said before you you youneed to work on your critical
thinking. So let's say I'm reading about,
I was participating in a in a ina lecture about artificial
intelligence and the effects andthe effects of artificial
intelligence in business. So this is something that is not

(43:45):
as simple anymore. So can I talk about that,
Priscilla? This is difficult for me, so I'm
going to prepare, and I can do that by myself.
I will read about something connected to artificial
intelligence. I will listen to people, experts
talking about it. I will take notes.
I've studied the vocabulary and that's all you.
And then I will practice my English, speaking by myself,

(44:07):
talking about that subject, creating questions, asking and
answering questions. And that is something very
productive you can do. So that by the time you have
someone to talk to you, Because I think that at some point you
want to have or you will try to find someone.
I don't know what your goal is. Maybe at work, maybe you're

(44:28):
going to travel eventually you want that.
That's your ultimate goal. Having someone to talk to you.
Well, prepare yourself now. Now the thing about having
someone, I didn't have anybody. It took me a long time to have
somebody. Now, was it nice when I did?
Yes, it was really nice. But if you don't have someone

(44:51):
right now, don't wait. Don't wait for the perfect
scenario. Otherwise you're just going to
be disappointed that it's not happening the way you want and
it is difficult. Okay.
I I get it. Yeah, it's hard, but it's not
impossible and it can be done. I have watched so many people
improve and eventually when theyhad to travel or do something.

(45:14):
They were able to communicate because of the right
preparation, the right method they were following.
Yeah, I know that's absolutely true.
And even with that being said, Priscilla, you could If you're
really organized and you have a really good game plan, you can
still make a lot of progress having those conversations by

(45:35):
yourself. Yes, I thank you.
You know, even with all that being said, you could still make
a ton of progress. I made a ton of progress with
that when I started learning a new language.
The people, the people did not have the patience to speak with
me because my level was not highenough to speak with them and to
get to that level in the 1st place.
I really did have to practice a lot on my own.

(45:58):
And I did use a French tutor at the time too, which helped as
well. Just to check up once in a
while, grade you're speaking, see where the little mistakes
are, give you good filler words.It's good to check up with the
tutor in a language once in a while if you're going to take
that route specifically. But yeah, if you're organized,

(46:21):
if you have a plan, you can, youcan make a ton of progress.
But I think that's the challengehaving the plan, having the
organization and and this is where we come in handy because.
We're professionals, you know westudy this.
We work with people that need toto to have that access.
You know that organized plan. So I think that use YouTube in

(46:43):
your favor. I have, I don't know how many
videos you have, but I imagine you have quite a few.
And we are constantly posting lessons to help you better
organize yourself. Pay attention to them, which I
imagine you do, but your next step is, well, implement them.
And I stay consistent because you're not going to see major

(47:03):
changes in after a week. It's only in the long term that
you monitor changes and improvement.
Absolutely. And it looks like we have a
caller here, so I'm gonna let you in here caller.
It's my first time doing this, so bear with me.

(47:25):
If you can unmute yourself, thenyou can ask a question.
Hi, Avery. Hey, how you doing?
You probably, well, you don't know me yet.
I've sent you messages on Instagram.
Okay, I see. And what's your name?
I'm Jesus. Jesus, OK, Jesus, yeah, shout to

(47:50):
you. Do you have a question for
Priscilla? Myself, not really.
I was just very surprised that you were doing this, this way
today. So yeah, is this the first time
you're trying to have like an like audience join you on stage?
It's exactly. I'm trying it out.
Yeah. So I posted the link here for
any of you guys too, if you haveany questions.
And then, yeah, it's just to be more interactive.

(48:12):
It's nice to see you guys face to face as opposed to seeing all
these random images as your profile images.
Well, I'm a teacher myself, and so I.
I reached out to you some monthsago because I remember that you
floated around this idea of starting some kind of a teaching
platform, and I'm still interested, you know?
Yeah, so I remember, I remember you.

(48:33):
Yes, exactly. Yeah, we're going to be
launching A tutoring platform soon.
It'll connect English tutors with English students.
So yeah, we have a pre application form.
It's like a Google form. So if you click on the link in
any of our descriptions, you'll find it.
And then yeah, I'll definitely keep you posted.
Definitely keep. Please, please do so I am.

(48:55):
I'll take you up on that, you know.
Yeah, if you're good English. Yeah.
You have really good English too.
So, yeah, Thank you. Thanks for calling in.
Indeed. And we'll we'll be in.
Touch, Yeah, I don't really haveany questions.
I'll just let. I'll just leave the two of you
to finish this up. OK.
Cool. Cool all.
Right. See you later.

(49:15):
Bye, bye, bye. All right.
Shout out to Jesus, Okay. Yeah, If any of you guys have
any questions, if you want to call in the links there in the
chat. Otherwise we'll just continue
with the questions that you guysasked by text.
Okay, Let's see. Musab, Okay, we got to that one.

(49:43):
Average and time, techniques andstrategies, routine commitment.
Yes, that is what you need. Juju.
How can I know my pronunciation is correct?
Typically I would advise using the shadowing method if you're
gonna try to learn how to speak on your own.
What would you say, Priscilla? How could someone know that

(50:04):
their pronunciation is correct? I like using shadowing.
I think it's really really efficient.
There is one website. I mean, artificial intelligence
is never perfect. They're getting really better.
OK, much, much better. But I like using can I send you,
can I send you a message here? I think.

(50:25):
I think so, yeah. I like using dictation dot io
right Speech and you can share it with people.
Yeah, I don't know how you can share, but yeah, yeah, I'll put
it on the screen. Here and it is pretty good.
You need a mic. OK, you need a mic and you need
to to to speak in the mic. Speak well so that they can the

(50:45):
machine can hear and they typically type what you said.
It is really interesting. Let's say you're struggling with
a few words in English and you're practicing your
pronunciation and you can then go on this website and record
yourself and the the the AI willtranscribe, which is sad.
So it is not perfect, as I said,but it's something that I like

(51:07):
doing and I use it okay. So let's say I'm working on
pronunciation of Ohh. What's it called?
You're a teacher, you know it better than me.
How do you call those words minimal pairs?
Minimal pairs. You know words that are they
have same pronunciation, but they are different, different
spellings, like homonyms, homophones.

(51:27):
Yes, homophones. Yes, yes, homophones.
Not minimal pairs. I think it confused it.
Terrible teacher. Oh my goodness, this disclaimer.
Disclaimer, I'm not an English teacher, but you're.
Not an English teacher. Well, but you're a teacher of
some kind, right? Informal digital social media.
Yes, we're always trying to help, yes.

(51:50):
I forgot it again. What do you say it's the
homophones? Yeah, homophones.
It's homophones. Yes, yes, yes, homophones.
And when I'm practicing that or when I'm practicing
pronunciation minimal pairs, I wasn't studying minimal pairs.
I don't know why I said that. But when I'm studying words and
I'm working on my pronunciation,I like to use this website.

(52:10):
I hit record and then I start reading a few phrases.
I'm not really randomly speaking.
Oh hey guys, what's up? No, I'm really working on
pronunciation. So I pick some words and I start
speaking them. Not too quickly, but not too
slowly either. OK, minimal pair.
No, I'm not doing that either. But I speak at a normal speed

(52:31):
and then I see what they catch. In most cases it it gets
correctly sometimes. It gets the word wrong.
And then I practice again. You know, I check sometimes, as
I said before, when I'm a littlesleep deprived or too busy and I
feel like my production, my productivity in English is
declining a little. And I feel like there are some

(52:53):
words that I'm stuttering, You know, I'm not speaking so well.
I will go back to this website. I will record myself speaking
those words after practicing first.
I practice. Using the words, practicing my
speaking, checking pronunciation, and then I will
try recording myself and see howit goes.
I think this is good, but not tonot to analyze your grammar, not

(53:15):
to analyze your ability to connect sounds, you know
stressing sounds, but to work. Very specifically on the words
you find difficult or if you're making mistakes you know while
using a certain word. I think this can be very
beneficial, but at the end of the day I always go back to the

(53:35):
the shadowing. I think shadowing is one of the
most beneficial ways to to work on your pronunciation in
general. Yeah, it's definitely a proven
method. Yeah, that's work for a lot of
people for sure. Sure.
And then Fawad, what is your advice to those people who are
not in English language countries how to strengthen

(53:57):
their skills of being? We just, we just went over that
forward. So you might have been late to
the stream, but you can always play it back and it will be
recorded. So you can always, you can
always check our answer to that question.
Sorry, I'm here. Hi.
From South of France. OK Wow, Shout out to South of
France. OK, And I saw something here,

(54:19):
Miriam says. Songs help me a lot in learning
English. Yeah, songs can definitely help.
Kind of depends what songs I would say some can actually
make. Your English a lot worse.
Yeah, exactly. It can make your English a lot
worse. But some can help you understand

(54:41):
slang and idiom. So Miriam, that's that's one
thing too. And Juju says should I learn by
hearts, idioms and slang? Idioms and slang?
How would you advise people? I have my answer Priscilla, but
how do you advise people to tackle idioms and slang?
In moderation, it all boils downto what are you going to do with

(55:05):
it, You know? I mean, of course you wanna use
something different, but if you're focusing too hard on
that, you're wasting time. First and foremost, you watch
those movies. We go to the movies.
You watch those movies, those. Yo, brother, what's up?
You know? Are you going to talk like that?
Who talked? Well, I disagree.

(55:25):
I disagree though. I disagree because my thing is
so let me think. OK, so my thing is,
geographically, if someone wantsto move to the United States of
America, or if they want to moveto London, England or something
like that, I would say it's beneficial to understand the
expressions and slang terms usedthere just for the purpose of

(55:48):
understanding it. Even if you choose where you go,
use it. Yeah yes I was going to say that
okay that I agree that I agree 100%, but it also depends on the
kind of slang cuz the person here wants to know by heart.
And I think you're going to havea broken heart, but you're not

(56:09):
going to memorize those phrase overs and idioms by heart.
You know, it'll be very difficult because I'm not.
When I. When I think about vocabulary, I
think about following a smooth process of memorization.
And when you put too much pressure into memorizing
something, it usually backfires.So as he said, the culture

(56:29):
impacts and it's important to have a comprehensive and
understanding. Of the the local mannerisms, the
culture, the slang. But depending on what you study,
you need to see the relevance. What is the relevance of
learning this idiom? How important is it for me to
study this Lang? Do I want to talk like that or
it's just my curiosity? Do I want to have a little fun

(56:52):
with it? So where I where I use English?
Well, I use English at work. Do I need to use these idioms?
Do I need to use this Lang? Is is Lang going to change my
life? So that now to understand my I
agree and I would add that OK, but where am I going, you know?

(57:14):
And when I lived in Boston, beautiful place, there was one
neighborhood I never went to. I only went once and I felt like
they were speaking a different English.
Now because of that experience, did I bother learning their
English? No, because.
You know, I didn't find it as pretty.

(57:36):
I didn't find it as nice, but hejust got my attention that, hey,
maybe I would need to ask them to explain a few things.
Which I didn't, by the way, because it was a very different
neighborhood. I didn't want to go there.
I went there by accident. I was walking around and people
were looking at me and I was like, oh man, I'm in the wrong
place. Are you lost?

(58:00):
I can read between the lines there.
Yeah. OK, Yeah, I got.
I got what you're saying. You know to to answer the
question, I think it's wonderfulto have fun and see the beauty
of learning English and saying how many cool idioms and
expressions they have. But you will have to filter how
essential they are to your life.In terms of communication now to

(58:23):
understand, as Avery has said, Ithink it's pretty neat to know
some local expressions, but don't feel don't put so much
pressure into learning them. I think there are more important
things for you to do. Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah. If you're just passing by, if
you're not going to permanently live somewhere like London,

(58:45):
England, or New York City or Boston, you don't really need to
speak that way to integrate and build strong relationships with
people. You don't need it.
It's not necessary, however. Yeah, you'll be able to not be
lost in conversations though, ifyou just at least understand
what it means, of course. So we can.
We can at least both agree on that.

(59:06):
But even myself, as a native English speaker, I I don't even
understand half of the expressions with British slang,
the way that British people speak from London, England.
Like I could I can barely even understand them like that's it's
it's so foreign to me. It's all they're saying is
extremely foreign to me. But yeah, our facts.
Could we connecting you right now.

(59:28):
Yeah, you could call in if you'dlike.
The link is down there in the chat, but we might have time for
one question. But we're going to be wrapping
up pretty soon. OK.
Nanaku. Hello.
Hello. So that's you juju.
Hold your horse. I rest my case.
Piece of cake as examples for those.
I I think it really, again, I'm going to sound like a broken

(59:51):
record, but it comes down to your exposure to that,
especially if you want to understand it and improve your
passive vocabulary. It's going to be the repetitions
you get of hearing it and all ofthe different references you can
make in your head of the contextin which it was used.
So. That's what I would say, I
guess. But like you said, Priscilla, to

(01:00:13):
memorize idioms and phrasal verbs.
I not sure what the process would be if you don't have
English immersion, but I think if you do have English
immersion, I think you can encounter it enough times
passively to the point where youjust begin to get it.
But yeah, so I'd say then. Then I used to have an English

(01:00:40):
girlfriend and she asked me if we could use less cast words
like curse words. Is that what you mean?
Yeah. I didn't cast words.
Cast words? Is that what you meant?
Valeria? OK, shout out to the people on
Twitch and Ben sitting across the table from a N England guy.

(01:01:02):
I didn't understand a word he was saying.
Now there's any other native English speaker around that
table? Yeah, Northern England people.
Yeah, like no one. It's hard.
That's really tough. Yeah, I don't blame you.
We're gonna wrap it up here. So Priscilla, where can people
find you on social media if theywanna find you?

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Well, nice. You can find me on YouTube.
I'm very active there. I post videos every week.
I'm also somewhat active on Instagram.
You know, teacher pricks. That's basically my name.
Whatever you type this, you'll find me, you know, I'll be
there. So I do like my favorite social
media is YouTube. I feel like on YouTube I really

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get to put my ideas across. You know, I feel like sometimes
people complain ohh the video istoo long.
And I like to say that my videosare as long as they need to be.
And I I am excited to make videos.
They're not that only Instagram,I'm not.
I am. But it's just a different
platform, a little bit more casual.
But if you want to get more content, you know, more

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explanations and ideas and strategies, I feel like YouTube
is a wonderful place for you to get started with.
And and yeah, Instagram, I'm there.
If you prefer Instagram for any reason, you know I'm there as
well. Okay, cool.
And there any projects you have coming up.
You mentioned earlier you have an Academy, like what's?
What's up with that? Yes, yes.

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This is my online program where I guide my students on their
journey to fluency by using my methodology, the way I like to
study my my strategies, and I organize everything they need to
do inside the Academy. I open registration a few times
a year. Right now it's not open, but
there is an upcoming workshop Fluent in Six.

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Where I talk to students, how they can go from stuck to
speaking in six months. I share strategies, I share I I
share explanations of what is happening in your mind.
What do you need to take into consideration if you want to,
you know, improve your English and feel more confident that is
going to be happening soon. I will share the link here one
second cuz let me get the link for you guys sure no problem.

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And while she's getting the linkfor us it's just Arc English on
all platforms. Arc.
English. Super easy to find.
We're about everywhere. Snapchat, Facebook, Instagram,
Twitter or X as they call it now.
Threads. YouTube.
We're all over the place, so forus it's super easy.

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So if people, let's see that okay, that's the link to
participate in the event. If you're interested, this would
be a link to Joy to start in twoweeks.
The next week, yes. Next Monday I'll be starting a
series of live lessons on my channel, talking about this,
preparing for this workshop thatwill be really fun to

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participate in Okay. I'm just gonna share it with the
group cuz you sense it to me privately.
Okay guys. So I just posted the link in the
chats. Here it is.
And yeah, you can reference this.
This will be recorded too. So you can always go back and
see the link. I'll put it in the descriptions
and everything. And then yeah, for, yeah, for

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us, it's our English and all platforms.
We're working on a platform soonfor you guys to offer group
lessons and private lessons. We're going to have a little
roster of tutors. I know a lot of you guys have
been requesting that. So we are going to have that
ready for you pretty soon. We just need to line up which
tutors you want to work with, ofcourse, and then also targets

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your what you guys specifically need to improve for your
English. Because I know a lot of you guys
you need to improve for. You need to prepare for tests
such as the aisles, the Toffel, the Tesla and all these popular
exams. So we're going to make sure to
have some tutors on our roster who can particularly help you
guys for those purposes. OK.

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And that is all for today. Thank you so much, Priscilla,
for coming out. It was a pleasure.
Thank the. Audience, thank you.
Thanks for having me. Yes.
And until next time, everybody, goodbye.
Thank you all. Bye, bye.