Aliens! ...and Elizabeth Taylor? (Have we been visited by aliens?)

This is our very 3rd episode. Come listen as we discuss the great extraterrestrial question. And a brief mention of Elizabeth Taylor. Do these things go together? Listen and find out! Afterwards you can go to our poll and vote for who you agree with. Then share with friends and family!

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to Arguing Ever After. My name is Luke and this is my
lovely wife Amber. Hello, We are the Lord and Lady
who lock horns. The count and Countess of
contention. The Duke and Duchess of
Disagreement. And the king and queen of
quarrels. We have been together since
Jinko jeans were first in fashion.

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So today we were discussing things considered in the
category of woo woo, according to Amber.
That's my category. For it, yes, which includes many
things which we will probably have podcasts about in the
future. Absolutely, but today the

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question was about extraterrestrial life.
Aliens. Yay, aliens.
So we both have probably lots ofopinions on it and I'm sure you
all do too. So we thought we would just have

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a little discussion about what the truth is about them.
Yes, the truth. The the truth I for myself have
been, as I'm sure many people have been interested in
extraterrestrial life for a verylong time because it's been part

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of pop culture since, well, at least since I was born and
probably since most of the people watching this podcast
have been born, going back as far as at least the first big
deal one for our country was Roswell, which was in the 50s.
Yes, yes. And it has been covered with all

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kinds of, you know, those videospeople put up.
And it's like, what is that? Well, why does it look so
unnatural? Do you remember the storming of
Area 52? Is that what it's called?
Oh my God, 51. 51 stop it. Do you remember though?
I think it was during like 2021 where Area 51 everybody was like

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let's storm it. Yeah, it was a flam storm do.
Remember that they were going tolike go take over.
Yeah, yeah. I don't know what happened to
that. I remember either, I don't know
if I saw it or heard it, but I remember something about like 20
people of the theoretically planned thousands.
Hundreds of thousands. Showed up to like one of the

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gates and there were guards there and they were like, this
is an active military base, do not cross that line and then
they were left. I know, but they were like, you
can't stop us all. It's like sad when you plan a
party and nobody shows up. Yes, the poor sad folks.
The poor alien lovers. You've got to wonder though,

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what would they have found? I mean, I think it's pretty
clear what they would have. Found Oh is it?
Weather balloons. Weather balloons, of course,
other things that have put aliens and extraterrestrial life
into the the mainstream have been like movies and comics and

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TV shows. And it's probably one of the
most popular things I would guess that people watch and look
at. There's a whole category of it.
Sci-fi is largely based around things like that, shows like
Star Trek and obviously movies like all the Marvel movies.

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Independence Day. Most of the DC and Marvel
Comics. Independence Day is a great
example. I saw that movie a few times.
That was a big deal back in the.So I like the only sci-fi you
liked ever. I like men in black.
OK, see there's another one. I.
Mean Will Smith is. Pretty so far.
Will Smith, We've got two of those.

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Yep. Also he was in Hancock where he
was. I didn't see it I.
Don't know if he was an extraterrestrial, he was a God
of some sort. OK, I'll trust.
Spoiler alert, the movie came out 20 years ago.
I feel like if the movie is beenlike streamed online for free
for more than five years, if youhaven't watched it, you probably

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don't care. To me, I have not watched that
movie and I don't care to. But I will say I have listened
to lots of conspiracy theory podcasts and I've watched my
fair amount of TV documentary. Oh God, we'll get into that in a

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second, Documentaries about things like Area 51.
And there have been a few othersthat they've talked about pretty
hard that has to deal with aliens.
Because I want to get on board with the conspiracy theory.
I love conspiracy theories. I just don't see it.

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I don't see it. I see that.
I don't see the proof that people feel that they see.
For a long time at night, we would watch The History Channel
and there was always this one guy out in there.
And every time I'd wake up in the middle of the night, he

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would be talking about something.
He'd be like, it wouldn't matterwhat it was.
He'd be like, oh, what was Jesus?
Jesus was an alien. Oh, what was the Egyptian
pyramids about? Oh, it's aliens.
Oh, but the, you know, I mean just everything that.
Was the guy with the hair? With the wild hair, Yes.
And I'm sure he was. I don't, I have no idea.

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But I mean, I'm like, oh, no matter what it is, they're like,
oh, what about the starvation, the Dust Bowl, aliens,
everything. It didn't matter.
As soon as you saw him, you're like, I thought I was watching
an actual documentary. Nope, I'm watching an alien
show. Maybe it was more like a
docudrama. I have no idea, but I knew the
moment I saw him. Because there was historical

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things that actually occurred. Yes.
Documentary style. Yes.
But maybe, maybe there's a little dramatization.
He was the drama. There's been a couple of those
and for what it's worth, they'realways popular.
So I think, I think everyone might have a little bit of that
question mark. I don't necessarily understand

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how everything can come back to aliens.
So what when you say that we're beyond just since the 1950s when
we've had little green men and, and all of those things, What,
what else? What else have you thought had
some value? What do you mean value?

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In thinking about is it possible?
I mean, it's all sort of the thegreat question, you know, like,
are we alone? And I think it's a question that
everybody sort of asks so. I would never ask that question
if it wasn't on TV. But I think, but my point is

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that it like it's always been there, like longer than we've
been alive. So I think it's actually fair to
say that most people, at least for the last, I, I guess, I
don't know, a time for maybe 100years, maybe it's more than
that. I mean, you know, thousands
maybe. People have probably looked up
at the stars and wondered, well,what if?

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I I'm sure some people, but I don't look at the stars and
wonder what if. Well, you might be in the
minority. I understand I have an unpopular
opinion. This I truly get.
I just don't, I don't see the correlation.
And when people like we were talking about the history stuff,

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right, like everything on The History Channel and how they
would go back and look at thingsand say, you know, well, aliens
must have been involved, pyramids, right?
Humans couldn't possibly have figured out how to align
whatever it was to the stars. Like we just couldn't do it.
I feel like that's just so egotistical of us today.

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Like for us to think that we have the the apex of knowledge
and that all of these people 10sof thousands of years ago
couldn't possibly know first. Of all, it's not 10s of
thousands of years ago for talking about the pyramids.
OK, I'm not just talking, I'm saying, OK, sure.
OK. But like whenever you go back in

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time, like it's not possible that people could have done
Stonehenge or it's not possible that people could have done crop
circles and all of these things,like whatever the time period
is. What I'm saying is it's pretty
bonkers of us to think that we couldn't have, you know, I mean,
there's. Well, I mean, that's, that's

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largely because the level of technology required and the
reason the things you've broughtup have been questioned is
because for their time frame, they were so far away and ahead
of the technologies available atthe time that moving just using
one of the pyramids as an example, moving one of the

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blocks there. I don't even know the numbers
because I'm not an expert, whichis called an Egyptologist.
Yes, but like, I think they weighed some ridiculous thing
like 10,000 tons or something like that.
And like, at the time, the only technology that they had was
like basic stuff like wheels andlevers.

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And like, they didn't have pneumatic equipment, they didn't
have hydraulic pressure. They didn't have like, it was
just man. What about the Baghdad Battery?
They did have technology. Sure, to light a lamp and create
electricity or whatever. But that knowledge was lost.
Sure it was, but it's been rediscovered and.

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Again. I mean to your point, OK, So if
we're talking about technology, then so if you're suggesting
there was a technology. I'm suggesting the knowledge and
capability and manpower was there.
Yeah, that's what I'm suggesting.
Well, clearly something happened.
Yeah, the pyramids are real, Yeah.

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I mean, but for us to think thatwe didn't, that humans couldn't
have come up with anything like that just because our vision
based on again, media is that they were so primitive.
I think that's. What's that based on the media?
Well, sure. But when you think of ancient
Egypt, what do you think of? I mean, it's pretty primitive,

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but they were super smart. I mean, think about the
libraries of Alexandria, right? We don't know what was lost and
all of that. They could have had all the
schematics and all of the ways that, hey, this is how we did
it. I mean, it was, it was all the
knowledge. From Aliens.
I I mean. Is it just that you need to like

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have concrete proof proof of it?Yes, OK.
Yes, concrete how? Does Bluetooth work?
I don't know, but I know that itdoes.
How does Wi-Fi work? I don't know, but I know that it
does. I'm just saying, like these
things are, I don't know. There's that saying that any
sufficiently advanced technologywould, like make you think it

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was from an alien, or that it was magic.
I've never heard the say this isnot a common sense.
No one said this before. Somebody's watching who's
probably like more in the know than I am, but there's something
like that. So if I just start saying
something's a saying, then it's a no.
It really is. It's any.

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Any. Sufficiently advanced.
Technology is considered is it maybe it's magic, It's something
like that because like, well, ifyou just think about like, OK,
let's say you time traveled because we're on the woo woo so.
That's that's another Oh. Don't.
But let's say you time traveled not too far back in the future

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where people would be like. Back to the Future.
Another sci-fi. But let's say you traveled back
in time and not too far back and.
Like yesterday. You brought just a camera, let's
say, like it doesn't have to be like a smartphone or whatever.
You just brought a camera like aPolaroid that could develop its
own to like, I don't know, 1500 where you're not, you're far

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back, but you're not like in thestone ages, you know, you're
like, at least people were living in houses at this point.
You know, some places have running water, you know, So you
bring back a camera that may be perceived as magic or
unexplainable because the technology would be that far

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advanced. That's.
I understand and I can see this in one of my very favorite
movies. Talking about the.
Sayings. This isn't the topic at hand,
but it's fine. It's one of my very favorite
movies where called Hocus Pocus and the Boy tricks the witches
with a zippo lighter so I understand the theory.

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They thought that was magic. I get that theory.
The witches thought the boy was a witch.
Yeah, I get the theory of bringing an item back in time.
Sure. I mean, and that will be a
discussion that we will have when we discuss time travel,
which I promise. Or witches.
We will discuss. Are we talking about?

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Witches all at May. Hey, we might.
However we're at aliens. We're not at time travel.
I don't think that they go in hand in hand.
What if they do? Though they might, however, it's
just the existence of advanced extraterrestrial life forms.
Because I don't think we're talking about blobs or

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unthinking like dodo birds. I don't, you know what I'm
saying? Like, I don't think that I mean.
First of all, that's offensive to the dodo community.
I. Apologize, sorry it's wrong.
I will do some research and become more empathetic to your.
Glorious, glorious bird that's extinct.
But the pictures based on the bones and the yeah look, they

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look great. So, I mean, I don't even
remember where it was going withthat.
However, I think that's the question, is there smart life
form? You know that that's what we're
talking about, not magic. Not just extraterrestrial life.
Extra extraordinary, yes, Because that would be the

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concept, right? That they came here and they
were smarter than us. So that's what we're discussing,
not magic. Smarter is a good question too,
because technologically advancedif they'd arrived here,
certainly. Yeah, they'd have.
But maybe not smarter, maybe like just they had better tech

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or something. Maybe they were worse.
Well. How do you get the technology
without being smarter? I'm not an alien.
That's. What you say?
Well, I actually really trust you 100% as far as.
I know. I mean, it's pretty true.
Oh, so then there's the people who believe that like, aliens
are walking amongst us. Yes, do you think?

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I mean, I'm not going to rule itout.
OK, there are people that think that there's like certain blood
types that is alien DNA and. That's because you have it.
I have this specific blood type that is said to have alien DNA
and I'm going to tell you, well,I might be smart.

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I don't know if I have this extraordinary intelligence that
is claimed from for aliens. I wish I had the lizard blood
that you have. Yeah, well, you, you don't.
And I just. Reminds me of a great great
movie where the aliens were lizards called Buckaroo Bonsai

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and something something the 8th dimension and the aliens were
lizards and the chief alien was named Doctor Lizardo.
Wow, Was this like a blockbusterhit?
No, no, that's quite one of those.
What is it, B movies? Is that?
What? Oh, for sure.
OK. And I feel like that's from.
The 80s someone recommended it to me because it was AB.

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They were like it's the finest Bmovie ever made.
Well, and I I also recall that you had an obsession with a
Stargate. Oh yes, fantastic.
The movie which turned into a amazing TV show, which lasted
for many, many years, which turned into like three other
movies. I don't know.
There was a lot in there. That also had to deal with like

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aliens coming and showing us stuff and or am I?
Had a lot to do with the pyramids as well.
Yeah. That's the thing.
Why do we think that we that we couldn't have done that back
then? We think.
About lots of things, you know, I mean we.
Lost a lot, so much older than any of the like, I guess I don't
know. I mean, I could, I'm not in, in

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that, in that community, but like it's there, it's like 5000
BC, you know, give or take. So that's so far behind or older
than what we consider to be likethe modern civilization.

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Yeah, although there was a really big time I think where
Brute was winning over brains, right.
Like think of a lot of the western expansion and it didn't
matter what people thought it was like, hey, we just we have
weapons and we don't care about you.

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So very primitive in how you know the and we won 6. 1000
years after that though. Sure, but we get real really
dumbed down. I mean, OK, that's why it's you
said why? I'm just saying that's why
'cause it's so far back. I mean like the expansion of

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Rome, which could be the argument for western expansion.
Yes yes was 5000 years later butor close to it.
OK, I'm not a historian. Wasn't that one like?
I apologize to all the historians out there, including
my father. Any fact checkers out there?
You are going to have so much fun with us because there's.

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So we don't know what we're talking.
About that, we don't. We're not checking this stuff
out. It's from whatever is, you know,
reaching in the back of our brains, you know, some
something, you know, some light bulb that's turning on.
So we enjoy it. You don't need to correct us
because we know that we're 90% wrong.
Oh, it might be less than that. OK.

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Yeah, with the sprinkling of actual facts that we can
remember, but somewhere in thereso.
I like sprinkles. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, we're, we, we like the shiny, but we do we recall bits
and pieces of things. So, but don't come at us.
It doesn't matter. It's not going to change our
opinions and we won't at least I, this goldfish brain won't

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remember what you told us for itto be fact.
It's still going to not swim in there.
So I'm just going to say that asI really can't remember what we
were talking about, except for, Oh, timelines.
You were talking about timelinesAnd, and I I know what what I
think I know is that you had thepyramids and then you had Rome,

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but in there like I was talking about with that library in
there, the Romans, I believe Julius Caesar burnt down those
libraries. Or that's a theory or something.
I. You're thinking of the movie
with Elizabeth Taylor. Great movie.
Oh my God and she was gorgeous when they.
If you haven't seen it, spoiler alert it's from like 60 years

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ago. Maybe not, but it's pretty old.
But she came rolling out of thiscarpet like it's a part of the
story. And if you know a lot about it,
it makes sense. But oh, she was gorgeous.
Oh my God. And the costuming in that movie.
Wonderful. So but this is.
Where she wasn't from Africa. That's true.

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That's true. I mean.
But she was Elizabeth Taylor. She was Elizabeth Taylor, so if
you're looking for an old movie that you haven't seen, go watch
Cleopatra if you are. Looking for?
Unless you want to watch a movieabout aliens, then they have
some other recommendations for you.
If you're looking for a movie that you have seen and you're

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like, I forgot how great that like that was a huge cost, like
the cost of that movie. Oh, it was beautiful.
So anyhow, you should you shouldwatch it.
That's my recommendation on alien movies.
There's no aliens. Involved.
Good. Yes, Yeah, you got a little off
to the side. I really did.
But you know, I I love ElizabethTaylor.

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So so don't don't put that don'topen that door for me.
However, like if that's the timeline and again, they were
using brute force in their takeover of the world.
Sure. And it was very purposeful.
Again, remember, I am a conspiracy theorist that only a

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few kept the knowledge and sharethis stuff.
They didn't want the masses to know things.
So, you know, whatever they would have burned down because
like, hey, if I'm the only one who knows it, you can't use it
against me. I think that there's something
to that. So I'll just put that out there.
But I guess, I guess. Well, Luke, let me ask you a

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question. And now, the moment you've all
been waiting for in this corner,we have Amber claiming to weigh
in at 135 lbs with two wins and 0 losses, which is really
unfortunate for me. By the way, she has over 25
years of practice in the art of insignificant lovers spats and

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is armed with her amazing wit, which she will need today.
And in this corner we have Luke as prime weight of 185 lbs with
his beautiful red beard. He has zero wins.
That's sad. And two losses which might

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change today. It might be a turn around for
you. Let's hope so.
Because, Luke, let me ask you a question.
Do you honestly believe that aliens have walked the planet
Earth amongst us humans? Here's the deal.

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I believe I would for for sure not rule it out and I would even
say that it's likely and I wouldeven go so far as to like bet on
that it has happened. The difficulty could be in
proving it. I don't know about the like walk

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amongst us thing because that might be a little.
Or are they just flying amongst us?
Little spaceships? I believe that to be the case,
yes. Do you disagree?
I do. I do.
I believe you've established some of your points.
Why don't I give you some counters?

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I'd love to hear them. Prove me wrong, Luke.
I would, I would love to. OK.
So first of all, you do have allthe speculative information
that's out there that most of ushave probably been Privy to at
some point or another, most of you watching both of us.
Obviously we've talked about some of the shows, better

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documentaries or docudramas, things that are unexplained.
I think that's the name of one of the shows.
Actually. It might be called unexplained,
and there have been numerous over the course of our modern
history reports from all over the world of congruous events

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that were similar in times when information was not so easily
exchanged. You mentioned crop circles.
I think those are for the most part of silly hoax, but there
have been reports of similar like unexplained things like
UFOs, which are now called some other acronym like that.

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We're doing the same thing in Europe that they were doing in
the US So that's just something.Then you have all of like the
amateur footage of things they didn't understand.
Much of these things have been gone through on these

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documentaries where they're trying to find out what's going
on using a scientific method of trying to prove it wrong and not
being able to, which doesn't necessarily mean that it's true,
but it doesn't make it untrue. Now the most recent development
of this has actually been from the US government and not just

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like a one off like info dump ona bunch of different stuff.
One of the more wider known onesbecause I know about it so
obviously it's wider known if I found out about it was footage
from high resolution cameras in American fighter jets over the

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ocean. I saw that footage.
That was classified for like a long time, like 10 years or
something that the Pentagon released and said, yeah, we
don't know what this was. And it's certainly beyond any
Earth technology from the Pentagon.

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And that's not an isolated incident or report.
So a large part of my argument to you would be that if in the
last five years, the most militarized government of the
modern era, being the United States, is going to come out
with real footage from classified documents and say

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this is legitimately unexplainable, why would they do
that after so long in secrecy? What?
Why would they do that? Yeah, OK, again, remember I am a
little bit of a conspiracy theorist because keeping the
masses afraid keeps them controllable.

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And what is more terrifying thanlittle green men coming down
from Mars to possibly mess with our human population?
Actually, I would say that is why they did it.
And when you look at it right, so you look at history and how
it you know, politics, governments, they like to figure

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out ways to mold the society is how they want it right.
We know this, of course. And if you look at when these
big times of like like the 50s and I don't remember what else,
but especially the 50s, there were a lot of reports coming out
at the same time, starting in little pockets, right?
And they're like, oh, I saw, I saw an alien ship.

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And then the next day someone else would be like, Oh, I need
to say I saw an alien ship too. And like, it just goes like
that. And like there's this mass
hysteria about about aliens and but it's a lot of times pretty
localized to these mass hysterias.
I don't think that that's proof that there is an alien there.
It's just proof that maybe maybesomeone down the road got a

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newspaper article written about them and they're like, well, I
want to be like that person. I want a newspaper article
written about me too. Or it could be very scientific
reasons, like maybe they had badwater, you know, So I'm just
saying there's, there's lots of bad.
Water. Yeah.
And so they're all, you know, seeing stuff that doesn't

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belong, you know? So everyone's hallucinating.
That's the word I was looking for, yes, Right, Yes, yes.
But I mean, I think that that isalso a possibility.
I also just really think that people, societies come up with

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things together and it builds upon itself to become these
myths which become facts to people.
Not true, but it was a myth. Enough people talked about it,
It became a fact. So I have certainly, like I
said, listen to many things about aliens, you know, and, and

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whether or not they exist and, and the concepts of people who
say that they saw it, you know, and there'd be like one guy who
said on his deathbed, one guy, oh, can I?
Finish with that. Who on his deathbed would be
like, I saw something strange and the Pentagon said they'd
kill me if I said anything, you know.
Well, you know, I would probablydo something like that too if I

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was dying like here. Let's give somebody a mystery.
Why not? I'm leaving.
What do I care? You know, I sure, sure.
I saw a little 3 foot tall man who had grey skin in a in a
spaceship and I and I read him his final whatever The thing is
that a priest reads to his finalrites, you know, yes, last
rites. Gosh, I should know that anyhow,

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I did that for him, you know, and I and since I'm a priest, I
can't lie, which is not always the truth either.
So I'm just saying that I without tangible physical proof,
which we've never had. And if it existed like at Area

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51 when the Pentagon was like recently said that those were
things and we can't explain it. I don't know if they said,
because I didn't watch it that hard.
I saw the video and I said, I don't see what you think is so
amazing. It could just be something dumb
like that. Someone's got a laser light.
I just, it really didn't look like out of this world to me,

(32:23):
honestly. And now especially like when you
think about CGI and people like,well, it couldn't have been a
hoax. Well, absolutely, it could be a
hoax. There's so many things that are
hoaxes. From the government.
I don't yes, yeah, yes. The government never releases
hoaxes. We could go on all another

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podcast about that government and don't watch this.
I I do think though, that there's there's a bunch out
there that does not have any proof.
It's just stuff, you know, it's something that someone made good
stories. And, you know, like with Area

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51, who knows? It could have been a Russian
freaking fighter jet. And they didn't want anyone to
know that Russia was attacking us.
Not that Russia would, but, you know, like, there are other
reasons why they might have beenlike, well, we're still going to
cover this up. It's probably not aliens, but
it's really great that you all think it is.
We're still going to cover this up and say, you know, oh, cool,

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they're going with aliens. I'm going to let him do that.
That's far easier than anything else, you know.
So, So my answer to the questionof if I think aliens have walked
or flown among us, it's very unpopular, I know.
But no, I don't see it. No proof.

(33:50):
OK, here's the other thing to think about.
Just a real. Quick, I'll think about it.
OK, is the mathematical probability that intelligent
life not only exists, but existsin plenitude?
And if that is mathematically viable, which it is, I would use

(34:15):
just as an example, somebody most of America trusts Neil
deGrasse Tyson. Yes.
OK, literally has said on a number of occasions you can't
really do the math in a place asbig as our universe with as many
galaxies, Suns and planets wouldexist.
You can't do the math and just say that humans are the only
thing. I didn't say that that's the

(34:37):
case. No.
If If that's the case, then it'salso fair to say, given that the
universe is about 14 billion years old, that there hasn't
been a sufficiently advanced technology from an alien planet
or solar system or Galaxy, or maybe in a place long, long ago

(35:01):
and far, far away couldn't have found a way to get to other
galaxies and solar systems. And if that were the case, why
not here? I mean.
I mean, if they had like, let's just say it was us who are

(35:22):
abundantly curious. We're always exploring new
things. Like right now the front of
science is quantum technology, which is like, well, basically
was unexplainable and unthought of 50 years ago.
And they've done a whole bunch of like actual scientific
studies proving it, doing a bunch of quantum experiments,

(35:44):
discovering quantum entanglement, and like a bunch
of other stuff. So if a species like us who is
abundantly curious and in the last, I don't know, 100 years,
200 years has gone from like no electricity to literally rockets

(36:04):
that go up in space and wirelesscommunication through
satellites, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, like all of these things that
are pretty wildly crazy. Why would it not stand to reason
then that if there were mathematically speaking,
provable other intelligent life,why would they not have had,

(36:28):
let's say, more time to develop their technology?
Let's say it's an example of what humanity might have looked
like 2000 or 5000 years in the future even.
We've been building on what we have now, and we're just getting
better at it. We're building better rockets
and better technology and bettercommunication and find a way to
identify other intelligent life by things like what we're trying

(36:50):
to do now, which is explore the cosmos for things like radio
signals. And we don't have a lot of
other, you know, we have big telescopes and stuff.
We don't have a lot of other ways to do it.
But if we had 5000 years or 10,000 years to build on that,
why wouldn't we at that point inthe future have something that
pretty easily was able to identify something very far, far
away and then go to said thing? I don't think that.

(37:14):
I don't think you could say thatthat hasn't happened for some
other intelligent alien life andthat they could have brought
them here. I'm not saying that it isn't
possible that there is alien life out in the universe.
I'm not even saying that it is impossible that they don't have
the capability to travel to other planets and other solar

(37:37):
systems and all. I'm not saying any of.
That just not here. Just not here.
What I I mean, they might have done enough research and decided
it wasn't a place to go. So you think all of the things
that have been questioned in Earth's history about crazily
advanced technologies, pictograms of things that

(37:59):
resembled things in the sky thattraveled down and like you think
all of that's just. I think that's human.
Circumstance. No, I think all of that is
humans and we just want to feel super superior to our, our, our
ancestors and being so much smarter.

(38:21):
Oh, they couldn't have done that.
So that when we do something dumb today, as we do all the
time, we can be like, well, theythey were Dumber because they
needed aliens to do it. And yet all of those things that
I just talked about have some sort of reference to like these
God like space creatures. I don't know.

(38:43):
I mean, I, I, yes, people have talked about gods or since the
beginning of time. That's true.
I don't necessarily think that they've talked about being God
like space creatures. I'm sure there have been people
who talked about that. However, I think that you're,
when you're talking about that, you're probably what, discussing
hieroglyphs and stuff like that.Sure.

(39:06):
I mean. Written accounts like, you know,
stuff that we're still doing now.
Not today. I mean like you're saying back
then back in the in history. Well, they didn't write US
stories in English, but they didhave writing.
Right, which has been interpreted 8 million different
ways, sure, which loses a lot ofeverything there in
interpretations. So I'm just saying that that no,

(39:29):
it is definitely not proof. And it's just, again, us wanting
to be superior and, and just because that's what we do, we
think that we're better than somebody else.
I think that that's wanting us to acknowledge the mystery of
the cosmos. A.

(39:52):
Little, too. Woo woo.
Little too. Yes, it is a little too little.
Too little, too woo woo. Yeah, well that.
There you go, I say. They have not walked amongst us
and Luke is saying they likely have.
We have been visited. He believes we've been.
By advanced intelligent extraterrestrial life.

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Again, I also. It would explain a lot.
Will say that I know that my my opinion is not necessarily the
most popular. Maybe not.
Maybe. I might for once lose an
argument, but I will die on thishill that I have no proof that
aliens I've walked amongst us so.

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The aliens. Not sure.
You know what? Prove me wrong.
Let's get like 10 new alien followers and that'd be great.
Yeah, I'd love it. I'd love it.
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