August 5, 2025 • 47 mins
In our very fifth episode we will talk about Luke's dare devil ways and one of life's two inevitabilities, and it ain't taxes. We debate some absurd circumstances in which one could die and our own brushes with death. To quote Ambers sainted Irish great grandmother, "Don't take life too seriously, you will never come out of it alive".
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Hello and welcome to Arguing Ever After.
I'm Luke and this is my lovely wife, Amber.
Hello. Together we are the Lord and
Lady who lock horns. The counting Countess of
contention. The Duchess and Duke of
Disagreement. And the king, Queen of quarrels.
We have been together since Joltwas the drink of choice for most
high schoolers, and we've arguedabout practically everything.
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And yet we're still together andhappy.
We have a great teenager who currently doesn't think we're
lame even after having started apodcast, and most of our
families still talks to us on purpose.
In this entertainment only podcast, we will bicker about
all things big and small and theaudience gets the final say on
who the winner is. We do not claim to be
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relationship experts by any means.
We will debate lots of things, many of which are submitted by
our listeners. So if you have a topic you want
us non professionals to battle over before you try it out in
your own house, please send it to us at
arguingeverafter@gmail.com. Perhaps it's completely
unscientific way of letting the masses decide on who is correct
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can settle your fight before youeven have it.
So Luke, we've had some storms lately and, and I was after
these storms, of course, trees come down.
And right afterwards, Luke's so excited when a tree comes down
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because he gets to use his chainsaw.
And I was working on cleaning upthe leaves and things like that.
And Luke says to me, Amber, comeover here because I need you to
stand by the ladder in case I fall.
And I wondered, what am I gonna do if you fall?
Am I supposed to catch you? I'm not gonna be able to catch
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him falling from a ladder with achainsaw in his hand.
I don't think that I should be trying to catch you falling from
a ladder with a chainsaw in his hand.
And so just the utter insanity of that.
And he said, well, you could call 911.
This is Luke's reaction or, or his statement to anything where
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I'm like, what are you expectingme to do?
Well, you can call 911. Yeah, emotional support,
potential emergency first aid kit treatment, and a phone call
to the to the professionals if we need them.
He'll be working on the roof on something, you know, usually
Christmas lights and same thing.He's like, just just make sure
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if you see me fall off the roof that you call 911.
I don't think I've fallen off the roof in a long time.
I didn't know you ever fell off the roof.
Well before we were together. Oh OK, well Luke is kind of a
daredevil so I'm not too surprised.
I am the exact opposite. I understand that man is mortal
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and I probably don't do things because I know that you could
die from doing some of these things.
Luke has, what, jumped out of anairplane?
I don't remember how many times,but it's like just two.
That's two times more than I would ever want to jump out of
an airplane. And he's.
Yeah. What else did you do?
You you jumped off some buildingin Las Vegas.
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I did. I had, I mean, there was a cord
attempts to me. So it wasn't just I jumped off
of a building. Yeah, it was the Stratosphere
Hotel, just 1000 feet tall, and it was great.
It was actually scarier than jumping out of an airplane at
13,000 feet. I cannot imagine that either of
those are not just equally scary.
And there'll be many times wherewe're like, Luke, Luke, don't do
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that. Don't.
You're gonna die. Don't do that.
And he'll still do these things where he's like, I'll just pick
up a random snake even though you're afraid of snakes.
Or there's a great video of that.
We could share that with our listeners maybe.
Maybe sometime we could. That is a pretty good video, but
also it will excite me. We were in Florida and I had no
no no idea. The snake was an unknown and it
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was in the swimming pool and me and my daughter were trying to
go swimming. So I thought I should get the
snake out of the pool and I did and everything was fine and
nobody got hurt in the making ofthat video.
Yeah, I mean, I think the snake did actually.
No, you did Chuck it pretty far.They have small brains, it's
probably fine. They're bouncy.
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Well, and I just, I cannot imagine, well, little Luke and
how many times your mom must have been like, OK, this kid
gonna die, you know, I mean, just inevitably this kid is
gonna die. There were a handful of hospital
visits because I have always hadthe daredevil streak in me.
See, it sounds like you're jumping into danger where
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sometimes when I was a kid and Ihad some accidents, it was truly
not that I was well, OK, I wasn't jumping into danger
knowing like that like you were,you know, I.
Liked it? Yeah, I did not enjoy getting
injured or. I've actually jumped off of a
roof on purpose. Well, yeah, I've never.
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And trees and you know. It was a short roof, but I
wasn't jumping. It was a nice easy climb down.
So. But certainly there are times in
life where you think, I don't know, maybe, maybe not.
Maybe it's just me. But you're like, Oh my God, I'm
gonna die. I'm gonna die no matter what, no
matter what it is you're doing. I was thinking about this the
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first time in my adult years where I was thinking I was gonna
die. I was laying in bed and all of a
sudden my heart was hurting so bad.
And I was like, I, I was, I was so scared.
And I was begging, Luke, please,please take me to the hospital.
I'm dying. And he was like, no, I'm not
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gonna take you to the hospital. That's true.
And what was the reasoning? Because you had heartburn.
I've never had it before. It was terrifying, so I wasn't
sure. You were like 20 and you thought
you were having a heart attack. I'm like, you're not having a
heart attack. You just have heartburn and you
were so mad. I was so mad.
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Who doesn't take their significant other to the
hospital when they're like, I'm sure I am dying?
Consequently, in a similar but role reversal event, I thought I
was dying of a heart attack whenI had broken some rib area
things you. Didn't break a rib.
Bruiser rib cracked a rib, whatever it was after a mountain
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biking incident where I didn't quite complete a jump correctly
and I said I think I'm dying of a heart attack and you brought
me to the emergency. I brought you to the emergency
room. That's very kind of what you do
when someone says I'm in trouble.
That's just simply what you do. But it's not as often.
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I think you must, you must be facing death and having those
thoughts more often than I do. I just, I can't, I can't come up
with too many times where I've been like, I'm sure I'm going to
die. I mean, I think everybody's had
like maybe not had an opportunity where you got
injured and you're like, oh, do I still have a hand, you know,
or whatever it is and you're kind of scared to look if did I
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actually lose a finger or something?
My one very memorable brush withdeath was not jumping off of
buildings or airplanes or. You know, I mean that those are
absolutely brushes with death. I'm just telling.
You I got hit by a truck one time, human versus truck, and I
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was scared then that was but I was more scared.
There was one time at our old house where I woke up in the
middle of the night. I had some sort of cold where I
was like all super Fleming and like, you know when you get a
cold and it's like gross and there's like thick anyway, it's
gross and and I have sleep apnea.
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There's a whole nother story. So I woke up in the middle of
the night and I literally couldn't breathe because all of
my Airways were plugged with phlegm or mucus or something so
I couldn't. Sorry everybody, this is
disgusting. Too much information for sure
but we were talking about brushes with death and this was
1. I literally got to the bathroom
and I could see my face in the mirror was turning like darker.
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Like I don't know if turning blue is like a thing but I could
not breathe for whatever I don'tknow for however long while I
was asleep and probably about 30seconds after I woke up.
It felt like way longer than that, but I went to the sink and
I turned the water on the hottest, scalding burning
temperature I could, and I stuckmy face under it.
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And I was trying to, like, gargle so that I could free up
my airway. And thankfully I did, because it
was the middle of the night and there wasn't like, no 911 call
would have made me make it through that.
So thank goodness for hot water and a whole bunch of panic.
Suffocation is a scary thing to ponder.
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Absolutely it is. It sure is.
Well, and I think, I don't know,I think that because it is like
the inevitable thing, right? Death is inevitable.
Inevitable. We're all going to end up there.
We all will end up there. It's it's one of those things
that's kind of a scary concept, right?
You know, like how, how it couldhappen or anything like that,
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you know, but for me, one of thethings I've thought about is
it's going to sound really weirdto people, but I've, I've
thought about my funeral, right?And what I wanna do for my
funeral, you know, And I remember The Golden Girls, there
was an episode where Blanche pretended that she was dead so
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that everybody, she could see what everybody was gonna say
about her. And then of course, you know,
like they were mad at her. But I, I don't wanna do that.
That I don't wanna do, but I do want to have a memorable
funeral, you know, not like one of those like, oh, that was such
a beautiful service. I don't want everybody crying at
my funeral, right, because I don't I don't want that.
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I want it to be kind of like a party.
I want it to be a thematic party.
And my favorite theme of all time is Halloween.
So I want to have a funeral where I tell well, I guess I
probably won't because I'll be dead, but where whoever is
planning my funeral will say, you know, come however you want,
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preferably in costume because that would be the most memorable
funeral. I bet anyone who would attend my
funeral would be at and you know, we could have like I have
so many decorations, you know, whoever doing it, they.
Could just empty out the garage.For you.
Yeah, Yeah. And just put up all the
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decorations so you don't have toworry about buying flowers or
anything like that, you know? Creepy looking Halloween themed
flower sets. We sure do.
We sure do. Yeah.
And like there could be candy because we.
Have a Butler I'll be. So excited to show you all some
things when we're closer to Halloween.
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But the other thing is there gonna be candy there.
And I used to think, and I stilldo, but I really think like,
cremation is a pretty reasonableway to die.
But I think at my funeral I don't want to be cremated yet
because I also want to be attending in costume.
Oh boy. And I am wondering if I could
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have like little fangs. Someone's gonna be like are.
You alive? Yeah.
Is she coming back? I know.
Oh man. Wouldn't that be hilarious?
And then like when people come, when they turn, they're either
gonna have one of two looks likeabsolute horror, like, who the
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heck does that? Or laughter.
We could even. Make like Amber that just a
silly thing. Maybe by the time this happens,
first of all, we have an agreement that you haven't
agreed to that you have to go first because or wait, I'm going
to die first because I don't want to deal with your funeral.
So maybe this is all going to beput upon our daughter and she
might actually enjoy parts of it.
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Not the death part, no, but the.But the Halloween party, maybe
we could get like a life-size cut out of you as a real
vampire. Or maybe by then, like 3D
printing will have come along. Or we could get like a Madame
Tussaud wax of amber as a vampire and then like move you
around so people see the vampiredead amber.
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And then you're like, all of a sudden your wax statue is in
some other room and somebody goes in there and they're like,
oh, Nope. And they leave.
That would be amazing. I just really like the last
party I attend. I want it to be a good one.
We probably sound really sick right now.
Well, I mean, who knows me a little bit, probably realizes
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that I'm a little sick. But you know, who wouldn't?
Who wouldn't remember that? You have promised to haunt our
daughter to the end of her days in a loving way.
In a loving way. In a loving way, Yeah, yeah,
yeah. As much as I can, you know, But
I just think if it's, if it's about me, which I think my
funeral kind of would be sure, then it should be about
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something that I love. And I really like the little end
joke, you know, of having the little things.
I don't know if a if a morticianwould agree to it so.
I feel like if you pay a mortician enough they would do
whatever. Yeah, yeah.
Like maybe they'd be like, that's stupid.
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Give me 5 grand and you'd be like, well I set aside 5 grand
for fangs. Yes, realistic looking fangs.
Actually, no, I want them to be the big cheesy like ones that
you get from like when you're trick or treating those big
white cheesy ones, you know, just really great.
I think it'd be so fun. And maybe that could be like a a
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funeral party favor too. Everybody gets their own fangs
afterwards, 'cause I mean, doesn't everybody have like you?
Have thought way too much about this.
You know, it's my last party. Things I have not thought about
at all. My funeral.
It'll happen. Somebody else can figure it out.
I'm not interested. I just don't want it to be sad.
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However, I just I think it'd be fun to do that.
But you know, like again, when you when you think about those
things, you know, how how is 1 dying?
You know, and I don't want to talk about all the like really
realistic ways that people die in really sad ways, you know,
but I want to like talk with youa little bit about some of the
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more absurd ways that one could die or obscure just just because
since it's inevitable, you know,like there's there's some ways,
you know, people will talk about, you know, people when
they see these pictures of really cute animals in the wild
that are super deadly, right? You know, and they're like,
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that's how I'm going to go. That would be me.
I would be the person who's like.
You're like Elf in the movie when he goes and wants to pet
the raccoon. Yes, yes, for sure.
And. Somebody need a hug?
Right they're so cute I mean, and and it just it almost seems
unfair that there are so many adorable little animals like
lynxes and and there was this video of this one kind of cat I
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don't. Remember, I think they're
terrified. They are, if you've ever gone to
the zoo and seen one walk like we have.
Look right into your soul. They do, and they're stalking
you the whole time. But I mean, you just look at
them when they're just sitting there peacefully.
That's true. I mean this I would be one who
would die from just being. We have like a picture art thing
in our bedroom of a length I just.
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Remember that? Yeah, very cute little peaceful
critter. Until they're not, Yeah, Until
they're not. And you know, that might be one
of the reasons I don't actually go out in nature, because I
would a. Honey badger, They're cute and
they do not care what they will fight a lion.
They don't even care. Yeah.
Yeah, it's just, it's unfair. Why are they so cute?
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You know, I mean, you don't wantto stay away from them.
The ugly ones. Yeah, like ugly animals.
I have no desire to hang out with an alligator.
I mean, actually we have gone like on these swamp tours and
stuff like that. And when you see them in the
water, they actually are kind ofcute.
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But I'm safe in a boat or, or one of those airboat things, you
know, they're not coming after me.
I think I would be absolutely terrified to see one of those
dinosaurs on land near me. They definitely can run faster
than me and I I I know that I don't think I would be like
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great, I want to hang out with you.
You're. Not like Steve Irwin.
I'm not. I'm not.
I did want to do that for a longtime, though.
I wanted that. I wanted that job.
And it isn't Speaking of animals.
It's not going to be all about animals.
But when I was a few years ago, I did have a wonderful
opportunity to volunteer at a zoo.
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And I was a zookeeper's assistant and I worked in the
Aquatics building and they happened to have polar bears.
And I, my job was to get their food together on the days that I
worked. And so they ate all sorts of
fish and things like that. But when I would come by, they
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associated me with the smell of food and so you would see them
or I would see them. You wouldn't see them because I
was on the other side. You couldn't see me and but they
would just be sniffing the air 'cause I was food and I was
like, oh, if they got out, I'm dead.
I'm dead so quick because I smell like what they are
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referencing. Didn't you see you fled?
The Fed them something called blood balls, No?
No, no, I didn't ever feed them physically, but yeah, there was
there was some blood balls that I don't know what it was called.
I don't know, it just that's what it looked like.
They, they're, they're they. They eat.
Blood they eat effort. I mean they'll eat anything, so
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humans are not excluded from that, but they sure are cute.
But I mean it does get you down the road of you know, that could
be a way to die. You know, I I could be eaten by
a polar bear and I mean I but I feel like it'd be quick.
I feel like I would, you know, Imean, again, going back to well,
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OK, I'm I'm now a part of the circle of life for this guy.
However, they usually go after those animals.
So I wouldn't really necessarilywant that for him.
But I don't know what other whatother ways of dying.
Oh, so many. I mean the ways to die.
I mean, I bear that's scary. There's other I mean, like
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almost any natural a creature that's a predator in its own
environment is sort of terrifying.
You got like wolves, pack of wolves.
I would die from a wolf because every time I've seen one, I'm
like, it just looks like a dog. I really think I would not see
that. It's a wolf, yeah.
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Or like what about like a pack of like a chimp pack troop?
Oh they are strong and scary, I've seen.
Those documentaries. I woke up in the middle of the
night one night to they they kind of were living in gangs and
they were attacking A chimpanzeeand it was the scariest thing
I've ever woken up in the middleof the night to on TV.
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Like the screeching sounds? Oh, it was.
It was horrible. Horrible.
I would not. Yeah, No, no, no, Nope.
They're too strong. Too strong.
You know, the other one too. I think about sometimes some
bonkers deaths and that I've seen on TV.
Not real, you know, but fictitious.
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And there was ATV show I used towatch and the ending of the
show. The guy got gored by Bold.
I was like, that would be prettyawful because you're not going
to outrun that thing, you know? Getting a giant bullhorn shoved?
India. Yeah, yeah.
Oh, and just it's sort of interesting to see what
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Hollywood comes up with and their obsessions, right?
Like when we were kids. Oh yeah, quicksand.
Quicksand. Every cartoon had it every.
It was in the movies, everything.
I don't know why it was in the never ending story.
This is just stuff I can remember Never ending story and
I don't know if that was quicksand but our tax the horse.
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Most tragic death in cinematic history for kids in the 80s.
I don't even remember it. I must have blocked you.
Blocked it out cuz it's trauma they had in The Princess Bride.
My one of my favorite movies. Epic, epic movie it was in.
I think it was in scooby-doo like every other episode.
Somebody was in quicksand. I don't remember that in there,
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however. I feel like though, we're all
prepared. The Mummy.
Pretty sure it was in there it. Could have been the mummy.
There's a lot of sand. I've never seen quicksand in my
life. Sand.
Is it even real? I don't know.
And if it's real, does it like do what do they do in the
movies? Like you land in it and then you
just sink in it and someone's got to rescue you with the right
kind of stick. I have no idea but I feel like
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all Gen. Xers are ready for it and maybe
some late millennials or what are what are we called geriatric
millennials which I hate that term.
How about zennials? I have no idea if they know
about quicksand. Well, that's AX.
It's the bridge years. Oh OK, 808079 to 80.
I don't know, I don't keep trackof this stuff because I'm not at
a war with anybody for sure. I mean, but then there's some
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medieval things that are just like, oh, they were really sick
in the medieval times, like the ways they thought of, of killing
and torturing or like I think about, you know, the impaling.
Glad the Impaler we're back to vampires again.
Oh, full circle. Full circle for you folks.
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I think the worst medieval one Icould think of is being drawn
and quartered, which I if I remember right from who knows
what I've seen, they tie big ropes around your arms and your
legs and they put four horses that just walk slowly in
opposite directions to RIP you to like in pieces.
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Oh, I don't like that. Because arms and legs just
ripped right off. I feel like those horses are not
willingly involved in that. I feel you know well.
For sure, they probably were being prodded on by some sort of
executioner style horse keeper. I don't like that at all.
I don't like that at all. I used to be really irrationally
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afraid of spontaneous combustion.
The thought of just like waking up on fire and just dying with
nothing else around you being onfire.
Like you're like, where's the fire?
Oh, I am the fire. You.
Are the fire. However, I did a little extra
research on that at some point when I was just like, how does
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it happen? How does it happen?
Yesterday. No, no, no, it's a while ago.
Because it really, it really hasbeen one of those things I'm
like, how do I stop from spontaneous combustion?
Like what, what can I possibly do to prevent that in my life,
you know? And so I did a little bit more
research and it, it really doesn't, they pretty much think
it doesn't happen, right? That it's something else, most
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likely. Like you would have to have
enough flammable something inside of you and some sort of
random errant electrical spark. And like, yeah, it's not, it's
not happening. It doesn't happen.
I mean like and and there are 0 confirmed deaths from
spontaneous combustion. So I think if there's 0
confirmed deaths in history, known history, I can probably
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check that off. It's not.
I don't need to be afraid of it,you know?
I don't know. Did did you hear?
I feel like I heard a lot about that when I was.
That was also like one of those,kind of like a quicksand.
It was like a fad everyone was talking about.
I don't remember for how long. I don't think it lasted as long,
but everyone talked about spontaneous combustion for like
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a while. I was stuck in my head,
absolutely. It didn't go away.
They're just some things that when you think about or you
hear, you're like, oh, I'm afraid of that.
You know, one of the things you were talking about was being
buried alive. And they used to have that
little bell. The the bell.
I don't remember what time period, but they'd have a bell
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on a on a string. Just like during the plague or
something. Maybe and.
I thought everyone was just dead.
I don't know if it was. I mean it was a Victorian times.
I don't remember. I mean, it was somewhere.
In a coffin. Yeah, so there'd be a string
Whoa up to the top, and if you weren't dead, you'd ring this.
Wait, the bell was above the ground?
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Yeah. So that you could tell the the
groundskeeper talk. About some stories in the
graveyard, like, oh, we're goingto the graveyard to visit old
Aunt Millie, and then you're just walking around.
Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding. I would take off.
I'd be like, it's zombies, I'm out of here.
Oh no. No, but I mean they they must
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not have had a really good way of wait.
How come they don't do that anymore 'cause they're for sure
that you're dead. They're real sure you're dead,
OK? The amount of, I mean.
And if you're getting buried, the embalming and all of it,
you're dead. You can't live through the
poisons. They're running through your
body. They couldn't live through the
the, the whatever the the burn tube where they make you into
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ashes. No, not.
Living through that either. No, not with cremation, you
know, And that's the thing, likeif I'm dead, I want to make sure
I'm dead. Don't just throw me in a hole
and think that, you know? So that's why I really, I do
like the idea of cremation aftermy final party.
Yes, you know. After the party.
After. The party?
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Yep. Yep.
Well, Luke, I guess this is the time for me to ask you a
question. And now, the moment you've all
been waiting for in this corner,claiming to weigh in at 135 lbs
with we believe the tallies are still out.
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They. Are still out.
Two wins and two losses were at a tie people and showing up to
date with her amazing fresh haircut.
Thank you. Thank you.
She's ready to battle. All right, and in this corner we
have Luke, who was weighing in at 185 lbs and sporting a
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glorious red beard. He was.
He's ready to fight today on thetopic of worst way to die.
The worst way? The worst way?
So Luke, let me ask you a question.
What do you think is the worst way to die?
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Caveat. Not real, like likely more
obscure, right? Obscure way to die.
Like, it'd be really no fun to have a debate about whether it
was worse to die from a heart attack or cancer.
Obviously. Those are pretty normal.
Not great, but you know. Well, in some light research on
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the topic prior to this episode,I remembered a few and thought
of a few and searched a few and there's a bunch and it's hard to
pick. Some of the ones I thought of
was like one of them was gettingeaten by something, which I will
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reveal later because it's my ultimate topic.
But then that went on a little tangent of like things that can
eat you to death or injure you to death, and murder Hornets
came up. They're like the size of a
Hummingbird. They're native to Japan.
These freaks are real. If you haven't seen any videos
of them and you want to be terrified, just search murder
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Hornets on the Internet. They're literally you can hear
them coming like a drone. Like they buzz and they like the
one sting from a murder Hornet is allegedly.
I mean, I don't know because I don't live in Japan, but it's
enough to kill a grown a grown human, weren't they?
Like migrating here or something?
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There was like, I mean, maybe there was like a brief thing in
2020 when everything happened, like COVID and murder Hornets
and aliens and all kinds of stuff was happening.
They did say like murder Hornetshad reached Seattle, I think, or
something, or Hawaii, something in the USI don't actually know.
Hawaii would be a heck of a lot closer to Japan than us, but
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terrifying nonetheless. They live in packs of like 20 or
30 of these giant bird sized stingy death machines and they
attack honey bees and they eat them.
They're carnivores. They.
Need to leave the honey bees? They don't.
They think they're tasty, tasty snacks.
So I think that that would be a pretty terrible way to die.
Getting stung by murder Hornet and other stingy creatures.
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I remembered I watched on some. I was really into the Discovery
Channel like a long time ago, maybe 15 years ago.
Back when it was good, but when were?
They it was like, it was like nature stuff all the time.
Yeah. Like they had stuff about
natural habitats and creatures and earth and seasons and now
it's like almost 100% reality shows, which is fine if that's
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your thing, but it's not my thing.
So one of the things I watched was about the Amazon and I
learned about the thing called abullet Ant.
And it's called a bullet Ant cuzwhen they sting you, it feels
like you've been shot by a bullet.
One of the descriptions that I read said that it's the, it said
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it's a, a, what does it say? Brilliant.
Pure pain that feels like you'veyou've stepped on a hot flaming
coal with a three inch nail being stuck into your heel.
And I was like, what? It's allegedly worse feeling
than a murder Hornet sting, which is crazy to even.
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Think about they even know that.I'm going to guess.
I mean did one person get bit bya bullet Ant and one person that
same person got stung by a murder Hornet I.
Probably like I'm so I don't know for sure, but they're like
the. So this was in my searching and
I don't remember the name of it,but there's some sort of like
pain in and there has to be likethere must have been some crazy
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person like that. What was the show where they did
all the dumb stuff? Jackass.
Yes, Jackass. So there's probably some crazy
person who was like, Oh yeah, I'll raise my hand to be the guy
that gets stung by a murder Hornet and see what happens or
all yeah, let's let's have a bullet Ant go for it.
How much would you need to be paid to do that?
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A lot. Like, I mean, if it feels like
getting shot, I feel like that'spretty terrible.
Might require a hospital visit, right?
I don't know man. Like that's if I were to offer
you $10,000, would you do it? Oh, I mean, that's a lot.
So yes. Yeah, yeah, OK.
I would not be happy about it each, but 10 grand's, 10 grand,
yeah, that's some dope. I'd let you do it for 10 grand.
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Thanks, what about you? No, no sting from a murder
Hornet. No.
You're just out. $10,000 that's not that much money.
Oh, look at you Miss thing over here.
I. Would I would hold out if
someone's going? Off 10 thou.
If someone's willing to offer. I'll tell you what, I would take
it for you. I'd take the sting.
I'd be like, she's weak, I'll take the sting.
Oh well, no, I would say smart. OK.
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I've done some things that wouldprove I'm pretty strong.
That's true. So, you know, kind of like that
great mic drop several females in this world have of
childbirth. It's more than several.
People it's not all so anyhow I'm so I don't think that I just
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think that I'm smart enough to avoid pain and if you're willing
to do it for $10,000 I mean why would.
I we did establish that I was a daredevil, right?
So if I get to do something for a whole bunch of money, I'd
probably be down. Yeah, I'd let that happen.
Also it might increase my natural pain threshold because
I'd be like well it's not a bullet Ant sting so I'm gonna be
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OK. I know when that when you're on
that pain chart at the hospital,they'll be like.
Yeah, what if 10 is bullet Ant everyone be like I'm at A1.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So to answer your earlier
question, what I believe to be apotentially realistic way to
die, but probably the most terrifying and worst way to die
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would be to be eaten alive by hungry rats.
Caveat you would. Have to be to do with Bullet.
It didn't. OK, just dying in general.
OK, so so caveat you would have to obviously be restrained in
some fashion. So this is some sort of like,
creepy torture deal because if you had your arms and legs, you
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wouldn't be eaten by rats. You'd be able to like, I don't
know, kill them or kick them out.
Well, there'd have to be a lot. I have seen movies where that's.
Happened. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Thousands of based on factual. Hollywood Factual.
Hollywood Data. They can swarm you in.
Well, thank you for supporting my case.
I I. Yeah.
So you're welcome. I mean, I think that the thing
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that would be the worst about that is 1.
I mean, it's a bunch of. Rash.
Oh oh. One, it would be a slow death
because they have little bitty mouths.
It wouldn't be like, well, you talked about a polar bear
earlier. Like, I feel like that would
suck, right? But they are so really cool,
like. When you think about it like
that. Would not be cool.
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There's gazillions of rats out there, but like one polar bear
like. This is not OK.
I feel like it's a little bit more epic way to die.
You'll have your turn. That's not my vote.
Though in any event, one, it would be a slow death because it
would take a long time for theirtiny little rat mouths to bite
enough of you to kill you. And I don't know, like would
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your actual cause of death be pain or blood loss or some?
I don't know. I don't actually know.
But like, I mean, I've heard stories about people that were
like tortured, like in the like in the military, they got
captured by the enemy and like rats would like be nipping at
their little toes and fingers while they were trying to sleep
in between tortures and stuff and these little prison cells.
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I mean, just that alone is creepy.
But like thinking about having to be your device of doom is
even like creepier. And like, would they have to get
to like a main artery before youdie?
Do they just chip out way a little, all the bits of your
skin and body and they're just, it's oh, it's so gross.
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And then you hear their little squeaks.
Oh God. And then like you feel their
little scratchy claws on you andtheir little bitey teeth.
I'm getting creeped out just thinking about it.
And then at some point somehow you die.
It'd either be from blood loss or like maybe you'd go into
shock and just get your heart would just be like, I'm out.
Boom, you're dead. So for me, that would be the
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worst way to die. There are many millions of other
choices, but I feel like that's it for me.
I feel like there's a technicality here.
OK. That I don't know that anyone
has that has been their cause ofdeath.
I feel like it's usually an infection or something like
that, so that's just my guess. So based on your guesses, you'd
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like to bring up the technicality?
Yes, Interesting way to debate. I mean, I'm just, I'm not even.
I'm just saying, that's all I'm saying.
If we were in debate class, that'd be tossed out.
I don't know. No basis in fact.
I feel like I could then Google and see however.
Well, here we are. So you're going with potential?
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No, no, for sure the cause of death is being eaten alive by
rats. I just OK, so when I was
thinking about my topic, I was thinking about things that
terrify me right? That like in the beginning of
our episode, I was thinking about Luke, Lex Heights, and one
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of the things I'll never do is jump out of an airplane or jump
off of a building because like, the odds of dying are greater
than not doing that. Greater than if you stay at
home. Yes, that's true.
So. Well, maybe that's not true.
I don't actually know. I don't have a fear of heights.
I have a fear of falling. So I was thinking that would be
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awful because I'm definitely afraid of falling.
I don't like heights because that's how I mean that's and not
short distances. I mean, falling from a great
distance, but I got to thinking it wouldn't be as bad as
something else because you know where the end is, right?
Like, you know, once I hit the ground, boom, I'm out, you know,
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now. So then I had to do some
thinking about, okay, what else terrifies me that, you know,
you'd be in some weird scenario for and Luke has talked about
something he wanted to do, whichis go like scuba diving.
And I don't know how deep of a scuba diving, but like what
really scares me is the concept of deep sea diving.
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When I was a teenager there werethese books called Fear St. and
I think it was in a Fear St. Book where there was this girl
and they were talking about scuba diving and deep sea diving
and something called the Bends. And I was so scared of the
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concept there because. But that deep decompressing that
needs to happen very purposefully so that your body
doesn't create too much nitrogento do all sorts of wonky things
to it. You know, blood vessels
constricting, you know, possiblysending a nitrogen bubble up to
your brain or your heart or all those things.
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But when you're that deep underwater, you can get
disoriented really easily, even if you don't have the bends
right. Like, you don't know which way
is up, up in which way is down. But the bends causes confusion.
There can't cause confusion. So all of a sudden you're
panicking because your body is going into some sort of, you
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know, shock of what's going on where our insides aren't working
and then trying to figure out your way out, which doesn't make
a difference because you don't know which way is up.
I mean, I don't know if anyone'sever played a video game and you
get lost in the video game and you're deep and you're like, I
don't know what the way the right way is.
You know, about how that actually have that BU and I did
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a little like I said, I wanted to make sure it was something
that has happened. So I did I did my research on
this and it said one in 76,000. So there is a number.
There's a number. Of military folks who do it, who
do the deep sea diving stuff do die from the bends.
So there's a number to mine. So I feel like it's more of a.
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And if that's military, they're trained.
Yeah. I mean, but they're going in
some. There was another thing about
like normal people and that number was much higher because
probably they're taking a lot less risk, you know, So I, I'm
sure the military, when they're doing these things, it's not
you. Would get it for sure.
I would well, I mean, you have to be so it's, it's just relying
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on all of your equipment to workright And for you to not be too
panicked because that's something that's going to
happen, right. You're going to, I would be very
panicked about the thought of, OK, how long have I been here
for? But you know, how is my oxygen?
The oxygen would be my first panic.
And really, it shouldn't be yourfirst panic.
It should be all of the other things.
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But I've like, I'm going, I am human.
I need oxygen. You know, I was also watching
this other TV show and I don't want to give out spoilers, but
where this woman was in a decompression chamber, like she
was held in this decompression chamber and they were slowly
like, and the whole point is to train for diving.
(41:31):
I don't know. I mean the the the show wasn't
really about that, but but she was held in that and then at
some point when they got her outhad like regulate her pressure.
And but just watching what it shows in a a Hollywood type
thing, it's like, that's terrifying seeing the what it is
fakely made, but probably made off of some sort of research.
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I'm sure the people who were directing it did way more than I
did. But it's just, again, it's one
of those things that is just held in my mind and I'm like,
oh, from reading that book. And then when I saw it again on
that TV show, I was like, no, no, you're not.
I'm never going to go deep sea diving because that would be the
worst way to die. Losing your your in your mind,
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essentially having your body like you could have seizures,
you could have all sorts of things happen in there.
You would have a heart attack, right?
You know, like that's always kind of the thing like that
could always happen in any of these scenarios that could
happen because you're so freakedout.
For me, probably what would happen, but.
Does it hurt the bends? I can't imagine it feels good.
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I don't know. Yeah, I mean, you could have.
You might. Have to do.
This and paralysis, all of thesethings, well, people live
through the bends all the time, OK?
It is more likely to live through it than die from it.
OK However. Much like an encounter with
rats. Right, you are more likely to
live. Than die.
Than die by being bit by. Everybody but if you die from
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the bends. Yeah, it.
Would suck. Yeah, and it's not immediate.
And you know what's going on. Like all of those things where
it's like, you know, there mightbe other scenarios where you
don't necessarily know what's going on, you know, but this is
1 where you, you know, until youdon't because you're confused
and all of that. I just, I, I'm, I'm thinking
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that would be the absolute worstway.
No control and you just have to wait till the end.
Awful. Awful.
I mean, it doesn't sound great. Doesn't sound as bad as getting
eaten by rats though. I don't know.
I don't know. At least you know what's going
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on. Maybe.
If, like our viewership has a fear of water, maybe they'll
think that yours is worse. Well, I also don't like rats.
What if they love rats? They're going to be like, how
dare. You.
I do know some people who reallydo love rats.
So I mean, I've known people whohad rats, pets, which I think
it's weird. I mean, I feel like you are kind
of giving them a bad rap for. Just I didn't say hungry.
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It's not their fault. It's not their fault, it's.
Not their fault they're hungry. They're just hungry, right?
And I happen to be strapped downand they're gonna eat me for for
dinner. Yeah, I I don't think that's as
awful because I feel like, yeah,the odds just aren't there.
We're not talking about whether it would happen or not.
I think that's kind of got to bea little bit of the the the vote
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here. Well, I said it was forced
torture, so sure it could happen.
Torture happens every day. All right, well, I guess now
it's up to you all to decide. Y'all got to vote.
And if you need to do some research to see I, I encourage
you to if our research, which I had some, I had some numbers.
(44:49):
I didn't. I had very little research.
Didn't have any research. If research is a factor need for
your vote then. Not a fan of research?
You should vote for me on our very 5th episode.
It is our fifth episode. Oh, I did want to say something
really quick to our listeners last.
Our last episode was the dishwashing when we're talking
(45:12):
about the rinsing and where it didn't happen.
And you know, we were kind of talking, you know, like we, we
were trying not to insult people, but we're like, it's
fine. We don't have any listeners from
the UK. Guess what, We got a listener
from the UK. And the Netherlands, you said?
No, not the Netherlands. No, no, no.
Sorry Netherlands, you got your chance.
(45:33):
You can. You still follow.
Come on with it. And today we mentioned Japan.
Yeah, maybe. There seems to be a correlation
when we talk about viewership, then we just get one just pops.
Out right, Let's see. I mean, we, we do know someone
in Japan. It's possible.
I could make a call to my cousin, be like.
Make it happen. Make it happen you.
Gotta watch this from Japan so we can get worldwide.
Yeah, but that's what we're trying for.
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You know, I don't know, who knows, who knows, we're already
a little bit there. But I do want to definitely
thank you all for listening today or watching or however
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I can't. My face does what my face does
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Hello and welcome to Arguing Ever After.
I'm Luke and this is my lovely wife, Amber.
Hello. Together we are the Lord and
Lady who lock horns. The counting Countess of
contention. The Duchess and Duke of
Disagreement. And the king, Queen of quarrels.
We have been together since Joltwas the drink of choice for most
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In this entertainment only podcast, we will bicker about
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(01:21):
can settle your fight before youeven have it.
So Luke, we've had some storms lately and, and I was after
these storms, of course, trees come down.
And right afterwards, Luke's so excited when a tree comes down
(01:41):
because he gets to use his chainsaw.
And I was working on cleaning upthe leaves and things like that.
And Luke says to me, Amber, comeover here because I need you to
stand by the ladder in case I fall.
And I wondered, what am I gonna do if you fall?
Am I supposed to catch you? I'm not gonna be able to catch
(02:04):
him falling from a ladder with achainsaw in his hand.
I don't think that I should be trying to catch you falling from
a ladder with a chainsaw in his hand.
And so just the utter insanity of that.
And he said, well, you could call 911.
This is Luke's reaction or, or his statement to anything where
(02:24):
I'm like, what are you expectingme to do?
Well, you can call 911. Yeah, emotional support,
potential emergency first aid kit treatment, and a phone call
to the to the professionals if we need them.
He'll be working on the roof on something, you know, usually
Christmas lights and same thing.He's like, just just make sure
(02:45):
if you see me fall off the roof that you call 911.
I don't think I've fallen off the roof in a long time.
I didn't know you ever fell off the roof.
Well before we were together. Oh OK, well Luke is kind of a
daredevil so I'm not too surprised.
I am the exact opposite. I understand that man is mortal
(03:06):
and I probably don't do things because I know that you could
die from doing some of these things.
Luke has, what, jumped out of anairplane?
I don't remember how many times,but it's like just two.
That's two times more than I would ever want to jump out of
an airplane. And he's.
Yeah. What else did you do?
You you jumped off some buildingin Las Vegas.
(03:29):
I did. I had, I mean, there was a cord
attempts to me. So it wasn't just I jumped off
of a building. Yeah, it was the Stratosphere
Hotel, just 1000 feet tall, and it was great.
It was actually scarier than jumping out of an airplane at
13,000 feet. I cannot imagine that either of
those are not just equally scary.
And there'll be many times wherewe're like, Luke, Luke, don't do
(03:52):
that. Don't.
You're gonna die. Don't do that.
And he'll still do these things where he's like, I'll just pick
up a random snake even though you're afraid of snakes.
Or there's a great video of that.
We could share that with our listeners maybe.
Maybe sometime we could. That is a pretty good video, but
also it will excite me. We were in Florida and I had no
no no idea. The snake was an unknown and it
(04:13):
was in the swimming pool and me and my daughter were trying to
go swimming. So I thought I should get the
snake out of the pool and I did and everything was fine and
nobody got hurt in the making ofthat video.
Yeah, I mean, I think the snake did actually.
No, you did Chuck it pretty far.They have small brains, it's
probably fine. They're bouncy.
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Well, and I just, I cannot imagine, well, little Luke and
how many times your mom must have been like, OK, this kid
gonna die, you know, I mean, just inevitably this kid is
gonna die. There were a handful of hospital
visits because I have always hadthe daredevil streak in me.
See, it sounds like you're jumping into danger where
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sometimes when I was a kid and Ihad some accidents, it was truly
not that I was well, OK, I wasn't jumping into danger
knowing like that like you were,you know, I.
Liked it? Yeah, I did not enjoy getting
injured or. I've actually jumped off of a
roof on purpose. Well, yeah, I've never.
(05:19):
And trees and you know. It was a short roof, but I
wasn't jumping. It was a nice easy climb down.
So. But certainly there are times in
life where you think, I don't know, maybe, maybe not.
Maybe it's just me. But you're like, Oh my God, I'm
gonna die. I'm gonna die no matter what, no
matter what it is you're doing. I was thinking about this the
(05:41):
first time in my adult years where I was thinking I was gonna
die. I was laying in bed and all of a
sudden my heart was hurting so bad.
And I was like, I, I was, I was so scared.
And I was begging, Luke, please,please take me to the hospital.
I'm dying. And he was like, no, I'm not
(06:03):
gonna take you to the hospital. That's true.
And what was the reasoning? Because you had heartburn.
I've never had it before. It was terrifying, so I wasn't
sure. You were like 20 and you thought
you were having a heart attack. I'm like, you're not having a
heart attack. You just have heartburn and you
were so mad. I was so mad.
(06:23):
Who doesn't take their significant other to the
hospital when they're like, I'm sure I am dying?
Consequently, in a similar but role reversal event, I thought I
was dying of a heart attack whenI had broken some rib area
things you. Didn't break a rib.
Bruiser rib cracked a rib, whatever it was after a mountain
(06:45):
biking incident where I didn't quite complete a jump correctly
and I said I think I'm dying of a heart attack and you brought
me to the emergency. I brought you to the emergency
room. That's very kind of what you do
when someone says I'm in trouble.
That's just simply what you do. But it's not as often.
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I think you must, you must be facing death and having those
thoughts more often than I do. I just, I can't, I can't come up
with too many times where I've been like, I'm sure I'm going to
die. I mean, I think everybody's had
like maybe not had an opportunity where you got
injured and you're like, oh, do I still have a hand, you know,
or whatever it is and you're kind of scared to look if did I
(07:29):
actually lose a finger or something?
My one very memorable brush withdeath was not jumping off of
buildings or airplanes or. You know, I mean that those are
absolutely brushes with death. I'm just telling.
You I got hit by a truck one time, human versus truck, and I
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was scared then that was but I was more scared.
There was one time at our old house where I woke up in the
middle of the night. I had some sort of cold where I
was like all super Fleming and like, you know when you get a
cold and it's like gross and there's like thick anyway, it's
gross and and I have sleep apnea.
(08:10):
There's a whole nother story. So I woke up in the middle of
the night and I literally couldn't breathe because all of
my Airways were plugged with phlegm or mucus or something so
I couldn't. Sorry everybody, this is
disgusting. Too much information for sure
but we were talking about brushes with death and this was
1. I literally got to the bathroom
and I could see my face in the mirror was turning like darker.
(08:32):
Like I don't know if turning blue is like a thing but I could
not breathe for whatever I don'tknow for however long while I
was asleep and probably about 30seconds after I woke up.
It felt like way longer than that, but I went to the sink and
I turned the water on the hottest, scalding burning
temperature I could, and I stuckmy face under it.
(08:53):
And I was trying to, like, gargle so that I could free up
my airway. And thankfully I did, because it
was the middle of the night and there wasn't like, no 911 call
would have made me make it through that.
So thank goodness for hot water and a whole bunch of panic.
Suffocation is a scary thing to ponder.
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Absolutely it is. It sure is.
Well, and I think, I don't know,I think that because it is like
the inevitable thing, right? Death is inevitable.
Inevitable. We're all going to end up there.
We all will end up there. It's it's one of those things
that's kind of a scary concept, right?
You know, like how, how it couldhappen or anything like that,
(09:36):
you know, but for me, one of thethings I've thought about is
it's going to sound really weirdto people, but I've, I've
thought about my funeral, right?And what I wanna do for my
funeral, you know, And I remember The Golden Girls, there
was an episode where Blanche pretended that she was dead so
(10:00):
that everybody, she could see what everybody was gonna say
about her. And then of course, you know,
like they were mad at her. But I, I don't wanna do that.
That I don't wanna do, but I do want to have a memorable
funeral, you know, not like one of those like, oh, that was such
a beautiful service. I don't want everybody crying at
my funeral, right, because I don't I don't want that.
(10:22):
I want it to be kind of like a party.
I want it to be a thematic party.
And my favorite theme of all time is Halloween.
So I want to have a funeral where I tell well, I guess I
probably won't because I'll be dead, but where whoever is
planning my funeral will say, you know, come however you want,
(10:45):
preferably in costume because that would be the most memorable
funeral. I bet anyone who would attend my
funeral would be at and you know, we could have like I have
so many decorations, you know, whoever doing it, they.
Could just empty out the garage.For you.
Yeah, Yeah. And just put up all the
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decorations so you don't have toworry about buying flowers or
anything like that, you know? Creepy looking Halloween themed
flower sets. We sure do.
We sure do. Yeah.
And like there could be candy because we.
Have a Butler I'll be. So excited to show you all some
things when we're closer to Halloween.
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But the other thing is there gonna be candy there.
And I used to think, and I stilldo, but I really think like,
cremation is a pretty reasonableway to die.
But I think at my funeral I don't want to be cremated yet
because I also want to be attending in costume.
Oh boy. And I am wondering if I could
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have like little fangs. Someone's gonna be like are.
You alive? Yeah.
Is she coming back? I know.
Oh man. Wouldn't that be hilarious?
And then like when people come, when they turn, they're either
gonna have one of two looks likeabsolute horror, like, who the
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heck does that? Or laughter.
We could even. Make like Amber that just a
silly thing. Maybe by the time this happens,
first of all, we have an agreement that you haven't
agreed to that you have to go first because or wait, I'm going
to die first because I don't want to deal with your funeral.
So maybe this is all going to beput upon our daughter and she
might actually enjoy parts of it.
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Not the death part, no, but the.But the Halloween party, maybe
we could get like a life-size cut out of you as a real
vampire. Or maybe by then, like 3D
printing will have come along. Or we could get like a Madame
Tussaud wax of amber as a vampire and then like move you
around so people see the vampiredead amber.
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And then you're like, all of a sudden your wax statue is in
some other room and somebody goes in there and they're like,
oh, Nope. And they leave.
That would be amazing. I just really like the last
party I attend. I want it to be a good one.
We probably sound really sick right now.
Well, I mean, who knows me a little bit, probably realizes
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that I'm a little sick. But you know, who wouldn't?
Who wouldn't remember that? You have promised to haunt our
daughter to the end of her days in a loving way.
In a loving way. In a loving way, Yeah, yeah,
yeah. As much as I can, you know, But
I just think if it's, if it's about me, which I think my
funeral kind of would be sure, then it should be about
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something that I love. And I really like the little end
joke, you know, of having the little things.
I don't know if a if a morticianwould agree to it so.
I feel like if you pay a mortician enough they would do
whatever. Yeah, yeah.
Like maybe they'd be like, that's stupid.
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Give me 5 grand and you'd be like, well I set aside 5 grand
for fangs. Yes, realistic looking fangs.
Actually, no, I want them to be the big cheesy like ones that
you get from like when you're trick or treating those big
white cheesy ones, you know, just really great.
I think it'd be so fun. And maybe that could be like a a
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funeral party favor too. Everybody gets their own fangs
afterwards, 'cause I mean, doesn't everybody have like you?
Have thought way too much about this.
You know, it's my last party. Things I have not thought about
at all. My funeral.
It'll happen. Somebody else can figure it out.
I'm not interested. I just don't want it to be sad.
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However, I just I think it'd be fun to do that.
But you know, like again, when you when you think about those
things, you know, how how is 1 dying?
You know, and I don't want to talk about all the like really
realistic ways that people die in really sad ways, you know,
but I want to like talk with youa little bit about some of the
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more absurd ways that one could die or obscure just just because
since it's inevitable, you know,like there's there's some ways,
you know, people will talk about, you know, people when
they see these pictures of really cute animals in the wild
that are super deadly, right? You know, and they're like,
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that's how I'm going to go. That would be me.
I would be the person who's like.
You're like Elf in the movie when he goes and wants to pet
the raccoon. Yes, yes, for sure.
And. Somebody need a hug?
Right they're so cute I mean, and and it just it almost seems
unfair that there are so many adorable little animals like
lynxes and and there was this video of this one kind of cat I
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don't. Remember, I think they're
terrified. They are, if you've ever gone to
the zoo and seen one walk like we have.
Look right into your soul. They do, and they're stalking
you the whole time. But I mean, you just look at
them when they're just sitting there peacefully.
That's true. I mean this I would be one who
would die from just being. We have like a picture art thing
in our bedroom of a length I just.
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Remember that? Yeah, very cute little peaceful
critter. Until they're not, Yeah, Until
they're not. And you know, that might be one
of the reasons I don't actually go out in nature, because I
would a. Honey badger, They're cute and
they do not care what they will fight a lion.
They don't even care. Yeah.
Yeah, it's just, it's unfair. Why are they so cute?
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You know, I mean, you don't wantto stay away from them.
The ugly ones. Yeah, like ugly animals.
I have no desire to hang out with an alligator.
I mean, actually we have gone like on these swamp tours and
stuff like that. And when you see them in the
water, they actually are kind ofcute.
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But I'm safe in a boat or, or one of those airboat things, you
know, they're not coming after me.
I think I would be absolutely terrified to see one of those
dinosaurs on land near me. They definitely can run faster
than me and I I I know that I don't think I would be like
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great, I want to hang out with you.
You're. Not like Steve Irwin.
I'm not. I'm not.
I did want to do that for a longtime, though.
I wanted that. I wanted that job.
And it isn't Speaking of animals.
It's not going to be all about animals.
But when I was a few years ago, I did have a wonderful
opportunity to volunteer at a zoo.
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And I was a zookeeper's assistant and I worked in the
Aquatics building and they happened to have polar bears.
And I, my job was to get their food together on the days that I
worked. And so they ate all sorts of
fish and things like that. But when I would come by, they
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associated me with the smell of food and so you would see them
or I would see them. You wouldn't see them because I
was on the other side. You couldn't see me and but they
would just be sniffing the air 'cause I was food and I was
like, oh, if they got out, I'm dead.
I'm dead so quick because I smell like what they are
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referencing. Didn't you see you fled?
The Fed them something called blood balls, No?
No, no, I didn't ever feed them physically, but yeah, there was
there was some blood balls that I don't know what it was called.
I don't know, it just that's what it looked like.
They, they're, they're they. They eat.
Blood they eat effort. I mean they'll eat anything, so
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humans are not excluded from that, but they sure are cute.
But I mean it does get you down the road of you know, that could
be a way to die. You know, I I could be eaten by
a polar bear and I mean I but I feel like it'd be quick.
I feel like I would, you know, Imean, again, going back to well,
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OK, I'm I'm now a part of the circle of life for this guy.
However, they usually go after those animals.
So I wouldn't really necessarilywant that for him.
But I don't know what other whatother ways of dying.
Oh, so many. I mean the ways to die.
I mean, I bear that's scary. There's other I mean, like
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almost any natural a creature that's a predator in its own
environment is sort of terrifying.
You got like wolves, pack of wolves.
I would die from a wolf because every time I've seen one, I'm
like, it just looks like a dog. I really think I would not see
that. It's a wolf, yeah.
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Or like what about like a pack of like a chimp pack troop?
Oh they are strong and scary, I've seen.
Those documentaries. I woke up in the middle of the
night one night to they they kind of were living in gangs and
they were attacking A chimpanzeeand it was the scariest thing
I've ever woken up in the middleof the night to on TV.
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Like the screeching sounds? Oh, it was.
It was horrible. Horrible.
I would not. Yeah, No, no, no, Nope.
They're too strong. Too strong.
You know, the other one too. I think about sometimes some
bonkers deaths and that I've seen on TV.
Not real, you know, but fictitious.
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And there was ATV show I used towatch and the ending of the
show. The guy got gored by Bold.
I was like, that would be prettyawful because you're not going
to outrun that thing, you know? Getting a giant bullhorn shoved?
India. Yeah, yeah.
Oh, and just it's sort of interesting to see what
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Hollywood comes up with and their obsessions, right?
Like when we were kids. Oh yeah, quicksand.
Quicksand. Every cartoon had it every.
It was in the movies, everything.
I don't know why it was in the never ending story.
This is just stuff I can remember Never ending story and
I don't know if that was quicksand but our tax the horse.
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Most tragic death in cinematic history for kids in the 80s.
I don't even remember it. I must have blocked you.
Blocked it out cuz it's trauma they had in The Princess Bride.
My one of my favorite movies. Epic, epic movie it was in.
I think it was in scooby-doo like every other episode.
Somebody was in quicksand. I don't remember that in there,
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however. I feel like though, we're all
prepared. The Mummy.
Pretty sure it was in there it. Could have been the mummy.
There's a lot of sand. I've never seen quicksand in my
life. Sand.
Is it even real? I don't know.
And if it's real, does it like do what do they do in the
movies? Like you land in it and then you
just sink in it and someone's got to rescue you with the right
kind of stick. I have no idea but I feel like
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all Gen. Xers are ready for it and maybe
some late millennials or what are what are we called geriatric
millennials which I hate that term.
How about zennials? I have no idea if they know
about quicksand. Well, that's AX.
It's the bridge years. Oh OK, 808079 to 80.
I don't know, I don't keep trackof this stuff because I'm not at
a war with anybody for sure. I mean, but then there's some
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medieval things that are just like, oh, they were really sick
in the medieval times, like the ways they thought of, of killing
and torturing or like I think about, you know, the impaling.
Glad the Impaler we're back to vampires again.
Oh, full circle. Full circle for you folks.
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I think the worst medieval one Icould think of is being drawn
and quartered, which I if I remember right from who knows
what I've seen, they tie big ropes around your arms and your
legs and they put four horses that just walk slowly in
opposite directions to RIP you to like in pieces.
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Oh, I don't like that. Because arms and legs just
ripped right off. I feel like those horses are not
willingly involved in that. I feel you know well.
For sure, they probably were being prodded on by some sort of
executioner style horse keeper. I don't like that at all.
I don't like that at all. I used to be really irrationally
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afraid of spontaneous combustion.
The thought of just like waking up on fire and just dying with
nothing else around you being onfire.
Like you're like, where's the fire?
Oh, I am the fire. You.
Are the fire. However, I did a little extra
research on that at some point when I was just like, how does
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it happen? How does it happen?
Yesterday. No, no, no, it's a while ago.
Because it really, it really hasbeen one of those things I'm
like, how do I stop from spontaneous combustion?
Like what, what can I possibly do to prevent that in my life,
you know? And so I did a little bit more
research and it, it really doesn't, they pretty much think
it doesn't happen, right? That it's something else, most
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likely. Like you would have to have
enough flammable something inside of you and some sort of
random errant electrical spark. And like, yeah, it's not, it's
not happening. It doesn't happen.
I mean like and and there are 0 confirmed deaths from
spontaneous combustion. So I think if there's 0
confirmed deaths in history, known history, I can probably
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check that off. It's not.
I don't need to be afraid of it,you know?
I don't know. Did did you hear?
I feel like I heard a lot about that when I was.
That was also like one of those,kind of like a quicksand.
It was like a fad everyone was talking about.
I don't remember for how long. I don't think it lasted as long,
but everyone talked about spontaneous combustion for like
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a while. I was stuck in my head,
absolutely. It didn't go away.
They're just some things that when you think about or you
hear, you're like, oh, I'm afraid of that.
You know, one of the things you were talking about was being
buried alive. And they used to have that
little bell. The the bell.
I don't remember what time period, but they'd have a bell
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on a on a string. Just like during the plague or
something. Maybe and.
I thought everyone was just dead.
I don't know if it was. I mean it was a Victorian times.
I don't remember. I mean, it was somewhere.
In a coffin. Yeah, so there'd be a string
Whoa up to the top, and if you weren't dead, you'd ring this.
Wait, the bell was above the ground?
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Yeah. So that you could tell the the
groundskeeper talk. About some stories in the
graveyard, like, oh, we're goingto the graveyard to visit old
Aunt Millie, and then you're just walking around.
Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding. I would take off.
I'd be like, it's zombies, I'm out of here.
Oh no. No, but I mean they they must
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not have had a really good way of wait.
How come they don't do that anymore 'cause they're for sure
that you're dead. They're real sure you're dead,
OK? The amount of, I mean.
And if you're getting buried, the embalming and all of it,
you're dead. You can't live through the
poisons. They're running through your
body. They couldn't live through the
the, the whatever the the burn tube where they make you into
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ashes. No, not.
Living through that either. No, not with cremation, you
know, And that's the thing, likeif I'm dead, I want to make sure
I'm dead. Don't just throw me in a hole
and think that, you know? So that's why I really, I do
like the idea of cremation aftermy final party.
Yes, you know. After the party.
After. The party?
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Yep. Yep.
Well, Luke, I guess this is the time for me to ask you a
question. And now, the moment you've all
been waiting for in this corner,claiming to weigh in at 135 lbs
with we believe the tallies are still out.
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They. Are still out.
Two wins and two losses were at a tie people and showing up to
date with her amazing fresh haircut.
Thank you. Thank you.
She's ready to battle. All right, and in this corner we
have Luke, who was weighing in at 185 lbs and sporting a
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glorious red beard. He was.
He's ready to fight today on thetopic of worst way to die.
The worst way? The worst way?
So Luke, let me ask you a question.
What do you think is the worst way to die?
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Caveat. Not real, like likely more
obscure, right? Obscure way to die.
Like, it'd be really no fun to have a debate about whether it
was worse to die from a heart attack or cancer.
Obviously. Those are pretty normal.
Not great, but you know. Well, in some light research on
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the topic prior to this episode,I remembered a few and thought
of a few and searched a few and there's a bunch and it's hard to
pick. Some of the ones I thought of
was like one of them was gettingeaten by something, which I will
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reveal later because it's my ultimate topic.
But then that went on a little tangent of like things that can
eat you to death or injure you to death, and murder Hornets
came up. They're like the size of a
Hummingbird. They're native to Japan.
These freaks are real. If you haven't seen any videos
of them and you want to be terrified, just search murder
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Hornets on the Internet. They're literally you can hear
them coming like a drone. Like they buzz and they like the
one sting from a murder Hornet is allegedly.
I mean, I don't know because I don't live in Japan, but it's
enough to kill a grown a grown human, weren't they?
Like migrating here or something?
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There was like, I mean, maybe there was like a brief thing in
2020 when everything happened, like COVID and murder Hornets
and aliens and all kinds of stuff was happening.
They did say like murder Hornetshad reached Seattle, I think, or
something, or Hawaii, something in the USI don't actually know.
Hawaii would be a heck of a lot closer to Japan than us, but
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terrifying nonetheless. They live in packs of like 20 or
30 of these giant bird sized stingy death machines and they
attack honey bees and they eat them.
They're carnivores. They.
Need to leave the honey bees? They don't.
They think they're tasty, tasty snacks.
So I think that that would be a pretty terrible way to die.
Getting stung by murder Hornet and other stingy creatures.
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I remembered I watched on some. I was really into the Discovery
Channel like a long time ago, maybe 15 years ago.
Back when it was good, but when were?
They it was like, it was like nature stuff all the time.
Yeah. Like they had stuff about
natural habitats and creatures and earth and seasons and now
it's like almost 100% reality shows, which is fine if that's
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your thing, but it's not my thing.
So one of the things I watched was about the Amazon and I
learned about the thing called abullet Ant.
And it's called a bullet Ant cuzwhen they sting you, it feels
like you've been shot by a bullet.
One of the descriptions that I read said that it's the, it said
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it's a, a, what does it say? Brilliant.
Pure pain that feels like you'veyou've stepped on a hot flaming
coal with a three inch nail being stuck into your heel.
And I was like, what? It's allegedly worse feeling
than a murder Hornet sting, which is crazy to even.
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Think about they even know that.I'm going to guess.
I mean did one person get bit bya bullet Ant and one person that
same person got stung by a murder Hornet I.
Probably like I'm so I don't know for sure, but they're like
the. So this was in my searching and
I don't remember the name of it,but there's some sort of like
pain in and there has to be likethere must have been some crazy
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person like that. What was the show where they did
all the dumb stuff? Jackass.
Yes, Jackass. So there's probably some crazy
person who was like, Oh yeah, I'll raise my hand to be the guy
that gets stung by a murder Hornet and see what happens or
all yeah, let's let's have a bullet Ant go for it.
How much would you need to be paid to do that?
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A lot. Like, I mean, if it feels like
getting shot, I feel like that'spretty terrible.
Might require a hospital visit, right?
I don't know man. Like that's if I were to offer
you $10,000, would you do it? Oh, I mean, that's a lot.
So yes. Yeah, yeah, OK.
I would not be happy about it each, but 10 grand's, 10 grand,
yeah, that's some dope. I'd let you do it for 10 grand.
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Thanks, what about you? No, no sting from a murder
Hornet. No.
You're just out. $10,000 that's not that much money.
Oh, look at you Miss thing over here.
I. Would I would hold out if
someone's going? Off 10 thou.
If someone's willing to offer. I'll tell you what, I would take
it for you. I'd take the sting.
I'd be like, she's weak, I'll take the sting.
Oh well, no, I would say smart. OK.
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I've done some things that wouldprove I'm pretty strong.
That's true. So, you know, kind of like that
great mic drop several females in this world have of
childbirth. It's more than several.
People it's not all so anyhow I'm so I don't think that I just
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think that I'm smart enough to avoid pain and if you're willing
to do it for $10,000 I mean why would.
I we did establish that I was a daredevil, right?
So if I get to do something for a whole bunch of money, I'd
probably be down. Yeah, I'd let that happen.
Also it might increase my natural pain threshold because
I'd be like well it's not a bullet Ant sting so I'm gonna be
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OK. I know when that when you're on
that pain chart at the hospital,they'll be like.
Yeah, what if 10 is bullet Ant everyone be like I'm at A1.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So to answer your earlier
question, what I believe to be apotentially realistic way to
die, but probably the most terrifying and worst way to die
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would be to be eaten alive by hungry rats.
Caveat you would. Have to be to do with Bullet.
It didn't. OK, just dying in general.
OK, so so caveat you would have to obviously be restrained in
some fashion. So this is some sort of like,
creepy torture deal because if you had your arms and legs, you
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wouldn't be eaten by rats. You'd be able to like, I don't
know, kill them or kick them out.
Well, there'd have to be a lot. I have seen movies where that's.
Happened. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Thousands of based on factual. Hollywood Factual.
Hollywood Data. They can swarm you in.
Well, thank you for supporting my case.
I I. Yeah.
So you're welcome. I mean, I think that the thing
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that would be the worst about that is 1.
I mean, it's a bunch of. Rash.
Oh oh. One, it would be a slow death
because they have little bitty mouths.
It wouldn't be like, well, you talked about a polar bear
earlier. Like, I feel like that would
suck, right? But they are so really cool,
like. When you think about it like
that. Would not be cool.
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There's gazillions of rats out there, but like one polar bear
like. This is not OK.
I feel like it's a little bit more epic way to die.
You'll have your turn. That's not my vote.
Though in any event, one, it would be a slow death because it
would take a long time for theirtiny little rat mouths to bite
enough of you to kill you. And I don't know, like would
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your actual cause of death be pain or blood loss or some?
I don't know. I don't actually know.
But like, I mean, I've heard stories about people that were
like tortured, like in the like in the military, they got
captured by the enemy and like rats would like be nipping at
their little toes and fingers while they were trying to sleep
in between tortures and stuff and these little prison cells.
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I mean, just that alone is creepy.
But like thinking about having to be your device of doom is
even like creepier. And like, would they have to get
to like a main artery before youdie?
Do they just chip out way a little, all the bits of your
skin and body and they're just, it's oh, it's so gross.
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And then you hear their little squeaks.
Oh God. And then like you feel their
little scratchy claws on you andtheir little bitey teeth.
I'm getting creeped out just thinking about it.
And then at some point somehow you die.
It'd either be from blood loss or like maybe you'd go into
shock and just get your heart would just be like, I'm out.
Boom, you're dead. So for me, that would be the
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worst way to die. There are many millions of other
choices, but I feel like that's it for me.
I feel like there's a technicality here.
OK. That I don't know that anyone
has that has been their cause ofdeath.
I feel like it's usually an infection or something like
that, so that's just my guess. So based on your guesses, you'd
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like to bring up the technicality?
Yes, Interesting way to debate. I mean, I'm just, I'm not even.
I'm just saying, that's all I'm saying.
If we were in debate class, that'd be tossed out.
I don't know. No basis in fact.
I feel like I could then Google and see however.
Well, here we are. So you're going with potential?
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No, no, for sure the cause of death is being eaten alive by
rats. I just OK, so when I was
thinking about my topic, I was thinking about things that
terrify me right? That like in the beginning of
our episode, I was thinking about Luke, Lex Heights, and one
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of the things I'll never do is jump out of an airplane or jump
off of a building because like, the odds of dying are greater
than not doing that. Greater than if you stay at
home. Yes, that's true.
So. Well, maybe that's not true.
I don't actually know. I don't have a fear of heights.
I have a fear of falling. So I was thinking that would be
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awful because I'm definitely afraid of falling.
I don't like heights because that's how I mean that's and not
short distances. I mean, falling from a great
distance, but I got to thinking it wouldn't be as bad as
something else because you know where the end is, right?
Like, you know, once I hit the ground, boom, I'm out, you know,
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now. So then I had to do some
thinking about, okay, what else terrifies me that, you know,
you'd be in some weird scenario for and Luke has talked about
something he wanted to do, whichis go like scuba diving.
And I don't know how deep of a scuba diving, but like what
really scares me is the concept of deep sea diving.
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When I was a teenager there werethese books called Fear St. and
I think it was in a Fear St. Book where there was this girl
and they were talking about scuba diving and deep sea diving
and something called the Bends. And I was so scared of the
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concept there because. But that deep decompressing that
needs to happen very purposefully so that your body
doesn't create too much nitrogento do all sorts of wonky things
to it. You know, blood vessels
constricting, you know, possiblysending a nitrogen bubble up to
your brain or your heart or all those things.
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But when you're that deep underwater, you can get
disoriented really easily, even if you don't have the bends
right. Like, you don't know which way
is up, up in which way is down. But the bends causes confusion.
There can't cause confusion. So all of a sudden you're
panicking because your body is going into some sort of, you
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know, shock of what's going on where our insides aren't working
and then trying to figure out your way out, which doesn't make
a difference because you don't know which way is up.
I mean, I don't know if anyone'sever played a video game and you
get lost in the video game and you're deep and you're like, I
don't know what the way the right way is.
You know, about how that actually have that BU and I did
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a little like I said, I wanted to make sure it was something
that has happened. So I did I did my research on
this and it said one in 76,000. So there is a number.
There's a number. Of military folks who do it, who
do the deep sea diving stuff do die from the bends.
So there's a number to mine. So I feel like it's more of a.
(40:25):
And if that's military, they're trained.
Yeah. I mean, but they're going in
some. There was another thing about
like normal people and that number was much higher because
probably they're taking a lot less risk, you know, So I, I'm
sure the military, when they're doing these things, it's not
you. Would get it for sure.
I would well, I mean, you have to be so it's, it's just relying
(40:47):
on all of your equipment to workright And for you to not be too
panicked because that's something that's going to
happen, right. You're going to, I would be very
panicked about the thought of, OK, how long have I been here
for? But you know, how is my oxygen?
The oxygen would be my first panic.
And really, it shouldn't be yourfirst panic.
It should be all of the other things.
(41:08):
But I've like, I'm going, I am human.
I need oxygen. You know, I was also watching
this other TV show and I don't want to give out spoilers, but
where this woman was in a decompression chamber, like she
was held in this decompression chamber and they were slowly
like, and the whole point is to train for diving.
(41:31):
I don't know. I mean the the the show wasn't
really about that, but but she was held in that and then at
some point when they got her outhad like regulate her pressure.
And but just watching what it shows in a a Hollywood type
thing, it's like, that's terrifying seeing the what it is
fakely made, but probably made off of some sort of research.
(41:54):
I'm sure the people who were directing it did way more than I
did. But it's just, again, it's one
of those things that is just held in my mind and I'm like,
oh, from reading that book. And then when I saw it again on
that TV show, I was like, no, no, you're not.
I'm never going to go deep sea diving because that would be the
worst way to die. Losing your your in your mind,
(42:18):
essentially having your body like you could have seizures,
you could have all sorts of things happen in there.
You would have a heart attack, right?
You know, like that's always kind of the thing like that
could always happen in any of these scenarios that could
happen because you're so freakedout.
For me, probably what would happen, but.
Does it hurt the bends? I can't imagine it feels good.
(42:39):
I don't know. Yeah, I mean, you could have.
You might. Have to do.
This and paralysis, all of thesethings, well, people live
through the bends all the time, OK?
It is more likely to live through it than die from it.
OK However. Much like an encounter with
rats. Right, you are more likely to
live. Than die.
Than die by being bit by. Everybody but if you die from
(43:00):
the bends. Yeah, it.
Would suck. Yeah, and it's not immediate.
And you know what's going on. Like all of those things where
it's like, you know, there mightbe other scenarios where you
don't necessarily know what's going on, you know, but this is
1 where you, you know, until youdon't because you're confused
and all of that. I just, I, I'm, I'm thinking
(43:20):
that would be the absolute worstway.
No control and you just have to wait till the end.
Awful. Awful.
I mean, it doesn't sound great. Doesn't sound as bad as getting
eaten by rats though. I don't know.
I don't know. At least you know what's going
(43:42):
on. Maybe.
If, like our viewership has a fear of water, maybe they'll
think that yours is worse. Well, I also don't like rats.
What if they love rats? They're going to be like, how
dare. You.
I do know some people who reallydo love rats.
So I mean, I've known people whohad rats, pets, which I think
it's weird. I mean, I feel like you are kind
of giving them a bad rap for. Just I didn't say hungry.
(44:05):
It's not their fault. It's not their fault, it's.
Not their fault they're hungry. They're just hungry, right?
And I happen to be strapped downand they're gonna eat me for for
dinner. Yeah, I I don't think that's as
awful because I feel like, yeah,the odds just aren't there.
We're not talking about whether it would happen or not.
I think that's kind of got to bea little bit of the the the vote
(44:28):
here. Well, I said it was forced
torture, so sure it could happen.
Torture happens every day. All right, well, I guess now
it's up to you all to decide. Y'all got to vote.
And if you need to do some research to see I, I encourage
you to if our research, which I had some, I had some numbers.
(44:49):
I didn't. I had very little research.
Didn't have any research. If research is a factor need for
your vote then. Not a fan of research?
You should vote for me on our very 5th episode.
It is our fifth episode. Oh, I did want to say something
really quick to our listeners last.
Our last episode was the dishwashing when we're talking
(45:12):
about the rinsing and where it didn't happen.
And you know, we were kind of talking, you know, like we, we
were trying not to insult people, but we're like, it's
fine. We don't have any listeners from
the UK. Guess what, We got a listener
from the UK. And the Netherlands, you said?
No, not the Netherlands. No, no, no.
Sorry Netherlands, you got your chance.
(45:33):
You can. You still follow.
Come on with it. And today we mentioned Japan.
Yeah, maybe. There seems to be a correlation
when we talk about viewership, then we just get one just pops.
Out right, Let's see. I mean, we, we do know someone
in Japan. It's possible.
I could make a call to my cousin, be like.
Make it happen. Make it happen you.
Gotta watch this from Japan so we can get worldwide.
Yeah, but that's what we're trying for.
(45:53):
You know, I don't know, who knows, who knows, we're already
a little bit there. But I do want to definitely
thank you all for listening today or watching or however
you're doing and. Hopefully watching because the
facial expressions are just. Sometimes I don't know if I had
that many today, but I I don't know, I can't help it.
I can't. My face does what my face does
(46:18):
and and there's all of that. But anyhow, if you like this or
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(46:39):
Give it a download. We really like that, and if you
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don't know episode, please e-mail it to us at
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to winning bye.
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