March 1, 2025 • 65 mins
Join us for an engaging Oscar preview where anticipation builds and excitement fills the air as we analyze this year's nominees! With your hosts and special guest Professor Sam Frink http://sfrink77.wixsite.com, we break down the key films and performances that have captured the hearts of the audience and critics alike. From universally acclaimed hits to the underrated gems that deserve recognition, we cover it all.
Dive into our discussion exploring the importance of cultural representation in film and how each nominated film reflects the times we live in, ensuring that viewers find a sliver of themselves in every story. Insightful anecdotes and behind-the-scenes trivia add a layer of richness to our conversation, making you feel like part of the buzz as we roll toward Oscar night.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Around the Bases, a pop culture and sports
podcast, Oscar preview edition,with your host.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Charlie Seymour with special guest host, professor
Frank.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Professor Frank and I'm Tim Sternberg.
Hit it, nick.
All right, welcome, gentlemenfellas to this premiere Oscar
(00:39):
preview episode.
I forgot the tux.
I did not wear the tux.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Hey, you're black and white.
It's basically a tux.
I did not wear the tux.
Hey, you're black and white,it's basically a tux.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Oh man, Wow.
You know, unlike the Professor,I don't see every single movie,
but there's nothing moreexciting for me than the Oscars.
I mean, it's just I don't know,I just get such a jazz about it
.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
I heard some interesting Oscars trivia today.
I'm interested to see if eitherof you know the answer to this.
I purposely did not share itwith either of you today, so
you'd go in not knowing it Allright?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Well, I think Sam's going to get it.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Here's the question okay, conan O'Brien is hosting.
Now.
We all love Conanan.
He was not their first choice.
They a couple people turned itdown.
Now it got to talking about whypeople would do it or not do it
.
Do you know how much money thehost of the oscars makes?
(01:39):
Your dollars scale, yes, iszero dollars okay they make
scale.
Whatever the actors, guildscale is okay, now I don't know
if okay.
So you guys already have yourguesses.
Did you know that also before?
I get into the answer everyattendee of the oscars receives
a gift bag that's worth in oversix figures.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Okay, you guys didn't know that it's disgusting
what's in that bag like tripsand oh my god, people were
making big guesses.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Sam knew the question was probably tricks that went
low, the actually the answerisn't zero, it's between 10 and
15 000, but it does seem so forlike a couple hours work.
It seems like like for us heyanyone would do that, but
apparently some of the othershad said that.
You know it comes with morework than you think and it's a
(02:30):
lot of hassle.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
But I just found that was interesting.
Yeah no, I'm really excitedthat you know I don't usually
care that much about theceremony itself, Unless I'm
really invested in like aspecific movie, like everything
everywhere a couple years ago oh, I love that movie.
Yeah, it's just, uh, one of myfavorites, so me too, uh, yeah,
(02:55):
um.
But like this year isdefinitely interesting because,
although I do really like jimmykimmel, I mean conan is like
he's kind of like a god, so thatwill push you into the, into
the interested in it slightly ohyeah, no, I'll watch it.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I'm gonna watch it for Conan for sure there's no
good music there's not a singlegood song that can be performed,
so he's great with you know,conan is like kind of like
letterman was like he realquippy, kind of real off the
cuff kind of.
Well, we know conan, um, Ithink it's gonna be fun, I think
(03:35):
it's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Uh, he won't insult people necessarily you probably
won't have the same level ofeverything everywhere all at
once, sam, but who?
What is this year's?
As close, I won't have the samelevel of everything everywhere
all at once, sam, but what isthis year's?
I won't say the same, butessentially, what is that?
This year's movie for you Like.
Who are you rooting for in the?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
awards.
Anybody, no, nothing particularlast year, when I had so many
movies that were I thought weremasterpieces, that were
nominated for best picture,including, you know, past lives,
poor things, barbie, um, acouple of the others, uh oh uh,
(04:18):
maestro, uh, yeah, I justthought these were even
Oppenheimer.
These were all just such geniusmovies.
Were even Oppenheimer?
These were all such geniusmovies.
And this year I wanted to fallin love with one of the ones
that's probably going to winBest Picture, but one I really
like, that I think deserves it,and then a couple others that
(04:40):
are like what on earth?
Okay, which one?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
in particular.
Were you thinking there?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I think the most appropriate winner would be a
Nora.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
One I haven't seen.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Yeah, no, it just feels like alive and it feels
like it's of this age, of thistime really.
And I thought just really goodacting performances by two
nominees Mikey Madison, who isjust fantastic as the title
character, and then Yuri Borisov, who was nominated for Best
(05:18):
Supporting Actor, who I just sawin a Finnish film called
Compartment no 6, and I wasreally wowed by him.
So then I actually watched thatfirst.
Then I saw this.
I'm like, oh, wow, that guy.
And I'm like, oh, my goodness,this guy is gonna be legit.
He's like very russian.
So I don't know he, I don'tknow how much he knows the
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language, but like really,really impressive.
So yeah I think, anora uh, andit has heart to it and um, just
got it feels alive, as opposedto other films that feel like
kind of dead on arrival to melike.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Can you give us a quick synopsis of the movie like
what is it about?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
anora is about a?
Um stripper slash sex worker.
Uh, probably the craziestopening scene you're gonna see
all year.
Um, yeah, it'll grab yourattention for the first 30
seconds.
I can guarantee you that.
Uh, that's all I'll say aboutthat, uh, and then um, uh, she,
(06:17):
um, eventually um falls and sortof falls in love.
But like, has this likewhirlwind relationship with this
like russian kid who's clearlylike an oligarch son, uh, and
things just kind of go nuts fromthere takes place in coney
island.
It's got a really authenticfeel there, real close, and just
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I loved the some of theperformances.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
So yeah, it's great reviews so I can understand what
you're talking about timely,with the oligarch type of thing
and current events andeverything that's happening and
that sort of thing.
So yeah, I'm definitely goingto add that to my list, which,
as Charlie knows, is very long.
I, recently.
(07:02):
So, if you don't mind, I'llshare something Out of the 10
movies that are nominated.
I, I recently.
So I, if you don't mind, I'llshare something I, I, out of the
what is it?
10 movies that are nominated.
I've seen three of them.
So, yay me.
Um, I've seen um Amelia Perez.
I've seen um, uh, a completeunknown, and in my favorite wick
(07:22):
, I love, I love, wicked.
Um, I don't think it's going towin Best Picture, but I love
the movie.
I remember texting Charlieafter I watched it, going this
is going to win Best Picture.
I didn't see anything else.
This is going to win BestPicture.
Blah, blah, blah send.
Because I loved it.
It's a fun movie to watch andI've seen it several times.
(07:43):
But out of the three that I'veseen, uh, emilio perez.
Emilia perez is crazy.
It's a crazy movie.
I will say that uh, wow, um,and I thought I thought, uh, you
know who was shockingly good inemilia perez was, um, oh
goodness gracious, uh, thesinger, selena Gomez.
(08:07):
Oh my God, selena Gomez wasfantastic.
Zoe Saldana was fantastic, Ithink they.
I think I don't understand whyZoe Saldana wasn't nominated for
best actress and she wassupporting.
Uh, it's weird to me, but theywere both, selena Gomez,
surprisingly good, like I wasn'texpecting that from her.
And she doesn't have a huge rolein the movie.
(08:28):
Uh, she plays, uh, the drug.
I don't want to give too muchaway, but she plays the, the
dealer's wife.
So I'll say that.
You know, I won't kind of saywhat happens in the movie.
It's a lot of twists and turnsin the movie, but I will say, of
the three, my most enjoyablemovie that I think could win.
I love Wicked, but I think AComplete Unknown is fantastic.
(08:50):
It took me right back to the60s and Bob Dylan and I think
Timothee Chalamet was fantasticin the movie.
So we'll kind of see how thatplays out.
What were your thoughts onthose movies, sam?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Emilio Perez is hot trash.
I love it.
It movies sam emilio perez ishot trash.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
It's a good way to put it.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
It's also insulting to, like, the transgender
community.
It's insulting to the mexicancommunity.
Uh, it's done by a white frenchguy who created an opera out of
like a cartel leader who thenhas the surgery and then is then
absolved of all the horriblethings they had done, so they
(09:30):
become a civil rights hero.
What?
And it's a musical and it's amusical.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
That was crazy to me.
Did you notice how the, the,the drug dealer, was all kind of
dirty and old skin and all of asudden, amelia Perez has the
smoothest skin on the planet?
She's clean, literally clean,and it was a whole dichotomy of
dirty versus clean.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
True, but Carlos Sofia Gascon, who is the actress
who was nominated, is actuallya transgender actress recently,
so she transitioned, I think, nomore than maybe 10 years ago.
Um, so, uh, she was one.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah, um, I thought she was she played both parts
too, you know yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Yeah, uh, like any, any movie that has lyrics to
that one song where they'retalking to the doctor uh, um,
that was crazy.
It's just like uh, it doesn't.
It's just insulting on everylevel.
So that's yeah terrible,terrible Zoe Zaldana will win.
Uh, the she was fantastic forbest supporting actors.
(10:40):
She's fantastic, but there isnot a likable character in sight
within a million miles in thatmovie no, 100 no nobody's
redeemable, I don't care.
Uh, and I just found and this is, uh, the director whose other
works I've found to be justreally fantastic, uh, when he
(11:02):
does like like his french filmthat he did in 2014 that won I
believe the palm d'or was calledd-pond.
It was the story of a srilankan immigrant, uh, who kind
of just has to make his way incrazy paris just trying to
survive with like a makeshiftfamily, and I thought was like,
oh, this is so.
So I came in expecting a littlebit more because it obviously
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had won.
I mean, it can Like all fouractresses won, they combined for
the best actress.
So I'm like okay, and then thewhole fact is they didn't know
Spanish.
Like Selena Gomez doesn't knowSpanish.
She had to learn it in 25 days.
That's not going to pass withnative speakers in any way,
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shape or form.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
The whole movie is subtitles.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
So misguided, so misguided, that movie.
But that's enough for that.
Complete Unknown is actuallysomehow.
I like that less than AmeliaPerez, really.
Yeah, it's my least favorite ofthe the ten.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Bob Dylan has no personality, that's true, I've
gone to concerts with him.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
So we did too, but that was way late, but still
it's like, oh god, that musthave been interesting.
The main conflict being the 64Fol festival in newport.
And then people are like, oh,we can't have electric.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I'm like, and everyone, oh, it's like, oh,
shut up uh that was true, though, was it wasn't it what that
they knew?
That was true.
That that's literally.
I agree with you.
It's ridiculous, but that wastrue to the time right it was
true the time, but overplayed uhdramatically.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
I think that scene was lovely and I really thought
monica barbara who did it was uhjoan baez was fantastic and
yeah, she was really good.
Shale may timmy shale may isgreat too.
I love him.
Uh, that obviously not myperform, my favorite performance
by him he was better in wonka,but yes which we'll get to in a
(13:14):
little bit, uh later, uh, withmy favorite movie yeah, I was
gonna say to tim, he's also inanother movie, nominated this
year.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Oh, he is okay.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
See, I didn't see it but it's, it's on your list,
your it's on your list.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
So it's on my list uh , but and then finally, uh, what
was the last one?
Speaker 1 (13:30):
oh, uh, wicked, wicked wicked.
Okay, so it's interesting, it'smy favorite of the three
personally me too, um, easily,um, and charlie has to see the
whole movie it's likable, um,like it.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
It takes a little bit of time to get used to, uh,
sort of the how hard everyone'strying, um, and I give them all
credit because these are allpeople who probably musical
theater and they've always,everyone's always wanted to be
the star in wicked or whatever,or just to be in it.
So there's a lot of try hard.
But cynthia revo geniusfantastic, oh my god that voice
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and she's just a great actressin general.
She was great to watch.
She was harriet tubman a fewyears back and I thought she was
great there and she gotnominated um, but you know it is
half a movie yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
So for those listeners who don't understand,
so, Wicked is going to bereleased in two parts and if you
watched a Broadway play whichI've seen, the second half after
intermission is basically thesecond movie and really that's
where I don't know if you'veseen the play.
That's where stuff reallystarts to pick up and there's a
lot of connections that I can'treally talk about now, but you
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kind of it makes the charactersin this movie become something
else I'll say okay.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
So does that mean that the play was like five and
a half hours long?
Speaker 1 (14:55):
no, or they just extended the movie severely it
is a long musical it is.
It is kind of, I think it'slike a two and a half hour
musical or something like that.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
But the first movie was longer than the whole
musical.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Right, what they did is they stretched so much out of
and they added some songs thatwere not in the musical and I'll
say I loved Wicked before Ieven saw the movie.
I went in with these highexpectations and I thought you
know Cynthia Erivo and I thoughtshe was just absolutely
(15:27):
fantastic.
I thought ariana grande was asurprise.
I mean I don't think she's bestsupporting actress material by
any means, but I think shedefinitely brought a presence to
the movie and that was nice forsomeone who doesn't usually do
this.
Um, and so I, I mean I, I, Ithought the music, I love the
(15:47):
music in the movie.
I thought the last scene of youknow, I mean I'm not really
spoiling anything but cynthiarevo hovering over the castle
with that end note and I just tofor the end the movie, that way
, it was just, it was fantastic,it was just really fun, yeah,
yeah oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Oh, I won't do it.
It's uh, yeah, no, it's.
It's a perfectly pleasant movieand in a year, in a down year,
uh, where I'm trying to think ofother things that I would have
not, and there are other thingsbut like, uh, they would go in
over like a complete unknown andAmelia Perez and all that stuff
(16:26):
.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
You think.
Let me ask you, Sam and Charlie, do you think it's part of its
recently recency bias?
You know, you notice how it'susually always the movies that
are released after, likeSeptember, that are nominated
for Oscars.
It's rare that I mean it doeshappen, but it's rare that a
movie released over the summer,before the summer is nominated.
You think it's that that amovie released over the summer
(16:47):
or before the summer isnominated?
Speaker 3 (16:50):
You think it's that recency bias.
That's why we end up with themovies that we get or what.
There's just lots ofcampaigning going on.
If that's a refresher in yourmind, sure, but Oscar things
that are going to be in theawards season, movies like that
they usually try to delay themuntil around the Toronto Film
(17:10):
Festival.
So September TIFF is usuallythe big thing where everything
comes out after TIFF.
So yeah, although that's notalways the case, think of early
year releases like the last twobest picture winners.
(17:31):
Uh, were both like I thinkeverything was like an April
release.
Yeah, I know Oppenheimer waslike that June or July release.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
And Barbie was a summer movie too, yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yeah, so once again we don't have as much.
There's not a lot of as muchstar power as last year, or
firepower in my opinion, butthere are some great movies.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
One of the other best picture movies that we also
watched that I saw.
We also saw Conclave.
I thought that was pretty good.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
You saw that one as well, sam yep, uh, you have to
ask me, chuck, I've seen a lotI've seen every movie, every
movie that has been nominatedfor every award, other than one
documentary that I can't find.
So we're other than that.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
You're good uh so conclave, I assume, is about the
you know the pope dying andthem.
It is about that um, and it has.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Its plot is wild again.
Yeah, uh.
And if it were to win bestpicture, which it does, have an
outside shot.
I mean, the last 20 minutes areso preposterous, so insanely
ludicrous, that it just loses.
And I know you're supposed tosuspend your disbelief when
(18:53):
you're watching movies, buteverything I know about
everything we know about, youknow, the church and the Vatican
, there is no chance, oh, now Ihave to see it so it's
frustrating because it's likereally well written, it's very
taught, it's very like I reallylove the tense moments good
(19:17):
acting exactly and edwardberger's previous movie, which
was all quiet on the Westernfront.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Oh, really I didn't realize that.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
The direction is very impressive, I will say that,
and the performances are alsogreat.
But you lost me, and Charlieknows exactly what I'm talking
about.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yeah, we won't spoil that for you, but I will say
that I predicted what wouldhappen pretty early into that
movie to Rosie.
So yeah, I don't like when thathappens.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Wait, you did not predict the end, not the twist
within the twist.
I also was on the same page ofyeah, I pretty much knew, but
the end, that final little yeah,oh my god now I have to see it.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
I mean, I wow, okay, so conclave is on my list and
that one is is free to stream.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Where is it, um peacock?
Speaker 1 (20:22):
okay, I didn't want to.
Yeah, I was talking to charliesam.
I didn't want to streamanything because it was so last
minute, uh, anything that he saw.
That's why I saw amelia.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
I, I, I, I sacrificed myself and saw amelia perez um
not gonna lie, I I had a littlebit of heard, and when tim
hadn't watched anything yet, I'mlike, well if well, if I watch
Conclave first, then maybe he'llhave to sacrifice and watch the
other one.
So sorry about that.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
But I see you know and I texted you, you're a team
player.
Yes, I am, and I said to Charlie, just so you know, Sam, I
texted him.
I'm like I could see why it wasnominated.
And I say that to say it wasvery, almost like if you're
going to package up a movie tobe like, try to touch all these
areas that are currents with youknow what's happening in the
(21:10):
world, that would be the movie,although I wouldn't put it
together that way.
Like you said, I believe it'salso insulting to the trans
community and kind of what.
And now, mind you, I have noplace to speak for that
community, but from what I'veheard too, they did not.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
They've come out and said what is this?
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Right.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Right.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
It's just so ridiculous.
I mean and you know it'sinteresting you say that because
as I'm watching the movie, Ihad no idea it was a musical
right.
So I'm watching it and all of asudden they break out into a
song.
I'm like I turn, I'm watchingit and all of a sudden they
break out into a song.
I'm like I turn.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
I'm like what is going on?
What is happening?
Yeah, because it's reallyabrupt.
The musical numbers come out ofnowhere.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
It's such a serious drama that you're like all of a
sudden there's a musical number.
Yes, that was kind of like theshow before your guys' time.
It was a show on ABC called CopRock, I'm so bad, oh man.
So if I, oh yeah, go ahead, goahead no, I was just gonna say,
(22:15):
of the movies that you've seen,all the movies.
Just chuck, he's seen all themovies.
Of all the movies you've seen,what?
is and they're not all thegreatest.
What is your favorite of thebunch, if you have one that you
kind of enjoyed more than theothers?
Speaker 3 (22:29):
sure uh.
And also let me give a a coupleof uh, uh shout outs to movies
that didn't get nominated forbest picture list of those.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
I've got it down, it down.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
I've got two in particular.
That would be a real pain, ashocking omission in my opinion.
And the other would be SingSing another pretty shocking
omission in my opinion.
Both of those have beennominated for acting awards, so
they are on my notable mentions,honorable mentions, right and
(23:10):
then?
So what we're going to?
The best movie nominated forBest Picture is Dune 2.
Really, I believe.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
And that's for the earlier Easter egg, that's
Timothy Hamill.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Timothy Schaal yeah, because I remember him.
He was in Dune 1.
Yes, and I haven't seen eitherone.
But okay, Dune 2 is so good.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Yeah, it's so unbelievably good.
The acting is so it'sessentially a perfect science
fiction movie.
I've got no notes, it's thatgood.
You know, denny Villeneuve isjust the best big game director
there is and he just keepshitting it out of the park.
(23:52):
And then adding Austin Butleras the menacing Faye Ratha just
was awesome.
And he goes a couple of scenesthat are just pure black and
white and the way his use ofcolor is nuts, so cool.
So Dune 2, probably maybe thebest science fiction, pure
(24:13):
science fiction movie I haveever seen.
So there's that.
The second one that I reallywish, really wish in some way
could win Best Picture theSubstance.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
I want to see that really, really badly.
Yeah, I want to see that reallyreally badly.
Yeah, I want to see that.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Let me more.
Uh, yeah, it's a body horror uhflick uh, and it's pretty crazy
.
Margaret qually, uh, does agreat job.
Um, uh, they're kind of thesame.
I'm not going to really getinto it, but yeah, you'll get it
pretty quickly.
Margaret Qualley, by the way,is beautiful, andy McDowell's
(24:55):
daughter, so you know, you gotthat and it's like a very angry
film.
I saw the other two films thatthis French female director had
directed and yeah, it's angry,it's funny, it's poking at
(25:20):
beauty standards in Hollywoodand then just like really
needling at the patriarchy too.
And it's got.
We've seen, we know that thereare some movies on this list
that have some bonkers endings.
Now I gotta get more bonkers inthe substance, uh that's
(25:45):
interesting.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Do you think I'm hearing a lot of buzz about demi
more?
Do you think she has a shot towin her first oscar?
Speaker 3 (25:50):
uh, I can do real quick, uh, real, just a real
quick breakdown in my end ofwhat I think is going to win.
Uh, it's best picture is thetoughest one I've.
No, I I'm moving on with honora, although I could easily see
the brutalist or Conclave doingit.
Best Director I would also giveto Sean Baker.
He's just consistently puttingout great movies.
(26:15):
He's Onora's director.
So there's that, and then theActing Awards.
Closest one, in my opinion, isprobably actor, and that's gonna
be a battle between adrianbrody uh, adrian brody, the
brutalist and and tim chalamet,and uh and uh, complete unknown.
(26:38):
Uh, I still think adrianbrody's the favorite, but watch
out for timothy chalamet.
He's a late riser.
He won the sag award on sundaydid?
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Did Adrian Brody win for the piano?
I don't remember.
He won for the pianist, thepianist right.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Yeah, my bad.
Which is such an amazing movieand also way better than
Brutalist.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Brutalist is a Holocaust movie.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
What.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Is it a Holocaust movie?
Pianist is a Holocaust movie no, Brutalist.
What Is it a Holocaust movie?
No, Brutalist.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
They're both Holocaust movies.
It's not really a Holocaustmovie, it's more like a
post-Holocaust movie.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Oh okay.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
It takes place mostly in the United States, if not
the entire.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Is it about Nazi hunting?
I mean, is it no?
Speaker 3 (27:19):
no, it's actually about a guy named Laszlo Toth, a
real guy.
He was a, uh, hungarian, uhjewish architect, uh of the
brutalist kind.
I don't know if you don't knowwhat brutalism is, um, but it's
like a type of kind of likeoppressive architecture, that's
(27:40):
yeah symbolize, you know, umkind of being closed in and and
yeah, it's definitely impressive.
It's the story of him, hisjourney, his 50-year post-war
journey, him being an architect.
Eventually he works for GuyPearce.
It is three and a half hourslong.
(28:05):
Is that the movie?
Speaker 1 (28:11):
that has an intermission.
There's a movie that has anintermission.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Yeah, there's an intermission and it's
beautifully shot, so it's goingto win Best Cinematography.
Wait, there's actually Wait.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
explain the intermission.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Oh, in older movies for Chuck, especially the longer
epics and God I know I'vewatched enough in the last
couple years they would alwayshave about halfway through, in
between Acts 1 and 2,essentially you're going to have
a musical interlude.
Sometimes they would actuallyhave an actual band playing.
(28:50):
Um, as it's usually just a timefor you to go to the bathroom
and maybe get snacks so in themovie, four hours is brutal.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
What.
What do they do in the actual?
Speaker 3 (29:00):
brutalist.
Oh in, the brutalist it's justuh, it's real quick.
It's not meant to be like that,it's meant to just be kind of
like almost a crossover betweenAct 1 and.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Act 2.
So it's just like a minute ortwo of black screen.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Yeah, exactly Okay, and then so, just real quick, we
got Demi Moore, I believe, isgoing to win, and if she doesn't
, it'll be Fernanda Torres fromI'm Still here, which I just saw
, which whatever Best SupportingActress is going to be.
Kieran Culkin, brilliant In areal pain, and there's some
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really good performances.
These are not who I would pick,by the way.
This is just who's gonna win,and I know so is aldana will win
best supporting actress.
Uh sure, why not uh, but uhyeah and they have two movies.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
You know, amelia perez has two songs, which I
don't understand, that arenominated for best song?
I didn't find a single songthat was good in that movie.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
The Last Showgirl, which was such a great movie
with Pamela Anderson, which sheshould have been nominated for
Best Actress.
She was so good there's anamazing song at the end by Miley
Cyrus called Beautiful that Way, which is literally the outro
to the movie, as, as we hit thecredits and it just like such a
(30:33):
like a lovely, just reallyemotional, and like, nope Cause,
diane Warren has to getnominated for the 16th straight
year for a movie that no one'sever seen, and I'm not even
making that up.
She's been nominated 16straight years.
Yeah, how many times she won?
Speaker 1 (30:55):
zero times, uh, so she just likes going to the
auroras and having her camera onher and when they say you know
when they do the nominations andthe nominees are sweet 16 for
the win I don't know, uh, it'sgonna be for that tyler perry,
uh, uh, pilot likeafrican-american female pilot
(31:18):
movie that nobody saw, calledthe triple six saint or
something, uh.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
But yeah, um, I'm really good.
I'm overall kind of just downabout the Oscars this year, just
because I'm just not really inlove with the movies or the
performances outside of a couplelike things that like really
impressed me surprisingly.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah, let's talk about one of those that we
haven't mentioned so far, that Ithink.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
I know which one you're going to bring up.
I know.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
I'm pretty confident that Sam agrees the wild robot
Animated movie yes, the wildrobot Oof.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
I adore the wild robot.
Chuck, you can definitely talkto us about the wild robot.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Charlie told me like he kept telling me you got to
robot.
Charlie told me, like he kepttelling me you gotta watch this
movie, you gotta watch thismovie, you gotta.
I was finally on a flight tonew york, do going to work, do
this job, and it was on theplane and I'm like I'm texting
him and, like you know, I'm likeI'm watching the wild robot.
He's like you're on the plane,you're watching it on that
little screen.
And yeah, charlie, tell us whyyou love that movie so much yeah
(32:25):
that, oh, man, it's just.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Oh, it's so, so good, it's so good.
I've been recommending it toanyone who would listen.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Um, just the heart and soul of that story is just
so good that's what it is yeah,I mean you fall in love with the
robot, you fall in love withthe animals, you just fall in
love.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
I mean it's just a lovely movie yeah, no, no, it's,
it's pretty perfect, uh, reallyreally good, uh, uh.
Animation this year is reallyinteresting because there's
another movie there that I amabsolutely obsessed with.
It's both nominated for bestforeign film and and Best
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Animated Film, and it's wordlessand it's yeah, it's called Flow
and you can now see it on Max.
If you've got it, it's 75minutes.
I don't want to spoil it in anyway, shape or form Just go with
it, man.
And if you also have AmazonPrime, this guy directed a movie
(33:32):
called Away in 2019.
He's Latvian, his name is GintzZibilotis and he directed this
movie by himself, wrote it,animated it, scored it.
He literally was the movie, andso, like it's just shocking,
scored it.
He literally was the movie, andso like it's just shocking.
It's so simple but like, soheartfelt.
(33:55):
I'm obsessed with it.
I think it should win.
I wouldn't be upset if it wonbest animated feature, but, once
again, the wild robot is prettyperfect too.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
I've heard great things about flow as well.
That's on our to-do list one ofthese days soon.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
They're not going to let hundreds of, they're not
going to give hundreds ofbeavers a whole bunch of awards,
which is the crime, butwhatever.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Tim does not know about that one.
You should know.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Hundreds of beavers, it's everywhere.
Just watch it.
It's all I'm gonna say.
Hundreds of beavers, if youlike like the animal beaver yeah
, and the number hundreds yeahhundreds I'll have to check it
out uh, it's one.
It's the funniest movie I'veseen.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
This my list is gonna get so long.
Okay, this literally thefunniest movie this.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
If you're saying that , that's huge praise on a
hundred and fifty thousanddollar budget.
Um so clever, um it's imaginelike that looks freaking
hilarious.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
It's just a poster it's.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
I can't even begin to describe how I've been trying
to get people to watch thismovie, charlie knows for like
six months.
Every time something comes, Iwould just go beavers can I say,
can I say so?
Speaker 1 (35:27):
the quote on the poster?
You know how they have thequote it says exist at the
crossroads of looney tunes,benny hill, cannibal, the
musical blazing salad and adultswim mindsets hilarious.
That is the quote on the posteryeah, no, I really think it's.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
It's like live action Looney Tunes with just such
surrealist.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
How did I never hear this movie?
That's crazy, it's because it'sreally.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
It was very under the radar, like I didn't even know
about it until like I think itwas the playoffs where the
Brewers lost and somebody liketweeted out that's all right,
brewer, I think it was theplayoffs where the Brewers lost
and somebody tweeted out that'sall right, Brewer, turn the game
off and just give everybody afree round and turn on hundreds
of Beavers Because it takesplace in Wisconsin.
(36:19):
And I'm like what, okay?
And then I watched it and thenby the 20 or 25 minutes I was
just like there's just no way.
There's just no way.
Your ongoing jokes after thesixth or seventh time they still
get me.
It's like how are you gettingme that right now?
(36:41):
It's so good.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
A beaver believer.
Yeah, no I am Charlie, have youseen it?
Speaker 2 (36:50):
I have not seen it yet, but we're gonna have to see
it, man we're gonna have to seeit like I'm just looking at the
youtube clip, it's hilariousall right for a comedy it's.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
It's tough to get a really high like, for instance,
like a Metacritic score.
It's an 82 on Metacritic.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Wow, what is it on Rotten Tomatoes?
Speaker 3 (37:14):
I'm sure it's a hundred.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
It's probably a hundred yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
I have to I love this .
Speaker 1 (37:19):
I love these cult type of movies that you know, no
one ever like.
White hot American summer waslike that for me.
It was like that for me.
I wasn't expecting anything andI laughed my ass off.
South Park the movie same thingI'm like, I love this.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
You should love this.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Love that.
I'm going to definitely checkit out.
I like a good comedy.
Hundreds of Beavers, beaverBelievers.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Watch it guys.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
There's one other speaking of although I don't
know if that is animated butanother animated movie I want to
give a quick shout out to.
We just watched that I wasobsessed with was Wallace and
Gromit the new one.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
I used to watch the old one when I was a kid.
How was that?
Speaker 2 (38:04):
It was fantastic.
Fantastic, it was very good.
If you like the old ones, ithit all the right spots.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
And there's another one, I don't know if it reaches
the heights of like a Shaun ofthe Sheep, but like the Martin
Studios, but like it's still sogood, there's such a silly duo
that it works perfectly.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
And there's so many little things that if you're not
fully paying attention youwouldn't notice.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
So there's so many psych gags.
I love that there's so manypsych gags that you actually
have to watch it several timesto get them all.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Yes, exactly, yeah, for sure, absolutely, were there
any other movies you wanted togive a shout-out to Not
necessarily Best Picture for theyear.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Yeah.
I wouldn't mind.
Well, I've got the list infront of me.
Charlie the Better man.
Robbie Williams' biopic.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Really.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
I have not seen that that, but really gotten really
solid reviews so I'm having ahard time wrapping my head
around that movie thrust throughthe trailer, because why would
robbie williams be an ape?
Is he an ape?
Or something like that.
Like why, though?
Why isn't it just robbie?
Oh?
Speaker 3 (39:26):
oh boy, it does.
That hit like really thismovie's got feels like big feels
to it and there's a he's veryhonest and like about him
screwing up.
And there's like a really likeit's a crazy thing with the ape
thing because he just like looksback in the mirror and the
mirror just like kind of tellshim that he's horrible.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Oh, so it's like this analogy.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Oh, it's a little bit like that, but you really have
to see it.
It's something that I couldn'thave ever predicted would
actually be a movie.
It cost $110 million.
It made $10 million back.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
So yeah, but if people had taste it where it
made money better streaming Ithink, honestly, the, the
promotion of it, was not thegreatest, at least in my eyes.
Going into, you know, justseeing it before a movie I saw
it before wicked, I think thetrailer and and just seeing it I
(40:26):
I was like what is thestupidity?
Because it didn't make sense,like it didn't connect what your
theme you're talking about, thetheming of the movie, to the
trailer.
The trailer just looked like itwas robbie williams as a monkey
.
And here you go, and I don'tthink they did a great job in
marketing it at all uh, no, notat all.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Uh, which was not surprised.
I mean movies have really gothit hard in the box office,
especially the last couple ofyears.
I mean superhero movies arefinally starting to die out,
thank God.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
No more Avengers.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
I just can't do it anymore.
I'm really depressed.
In a couple of weeks We've gotthe electric state coming out,
which is one of my probably myfavorite art book of all time
Wow, by Simon Stonehog.
It's absolutely a stunner.
(41:24):
And the Russo brothers behindAvengers and Captain America
made a movie out of it, althoughthey changed the entire plot,
which did nothing but infuriateall the hardcore fans, because
they didn't need it.
And then they spent $330million on the budget and it's
(41:49):
being released straight toNetflix in two weeks.
Billy, bobby Brown, chris Pratt, ki Kwan, stanley Tucci.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
Hugh Maron.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Why direct to Netflix , though?
Speaker 3 (42:05):
It was a Netflix project.
The Russo brothers did thiswith the with the gray man a few
years back ago, which wasanother like how do these people
keep getting such insanebudgets?
That was like 150 milliondollars for that movie.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
I'm like they keep jacking up netflix every month.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
That's how it's way for it they gotta crank out that
new content so you, you, you'rereal excited about that,
obviously because it's a bookthat you love.
And are you nervous, though,whenever?
No, no, no, I'm actually notexcited at all oh okay, yeah,
because anytime they turn a bookI really love into a movie, it
(42:48):
makes me crazy.
I get really nervous, I reallycool time.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
These are weird.
These are art books that havethis crazy visual style that
he's amazing with, usually setin Sweden because he's Swedish.
So they did Tales from the Loop.
That was on Prime.
That was a show that was justbased off of another.
(43:17):
I have all of his books writtenin front of me.
But yeah, it's just depressingwhen corporate takes your
favorite stuff and decides tothat they just squeeze every
penny out of it.
That's soulless and I'm notinto soullessness.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Well, there's something I agree with you.
There's something to be said.
You know, when you read a novel, especially as a kid you know I
mentioned A Wrinkle in Time youcreate in your head, as you're
reading the novel, the worldright, the world that these
characters are living in.
Of course the author explainsit, but you're still looking at
it from your own kind ofperspective.
(43:58):
And when a director films amovie, produces a movie, they're
filming a movie.
At their perspective.
It doesn't necessarily matchfrom what I'm seeing or you saw
in reading the book and it'salways, almost always,
disappointing, I find.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
Yeah, I it's not always but, I love it when like
uh, maybe the and they take itin a different direction, not a
lot like a Kubrick and theshining, oh yeah, yeah, the
original story, uh, so it in adifferent direction, not a lot
like a kubrick and the shiningoh yeah, you're a shiny, uh, so
I mean you can take stuff likethat and still make it
(44:36):
impressive.
But like what, if you're goingto say something that is so like
, uh, how I describe his art,it's just so serene and like
kind of cold but also beautiful,uh, and to make a bunch of to a
(44:57):
rock and sock of robot movie,which is what they did, I'm like
, okay, there's none of that, uh, in this book I love.
So I'm glad you spent $330million on something, somebody
that nobody knows anything aboutexcept for the hardcore like
Stalin, the hog ice.
So, yeah, that was a weird oneto me.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
It's it's tough to stomach.
Well, we have you here.
I do have a quick question foryou, sam, because you're the
professor we just lost two daysago.
Well, we lost a while ago.
We just found out two days agothat the late, great Gene
Hackman passed away.
Gene Hackman, probably one ofthe greatest actors of my
lifetime, in my opinion.
What's your favorite film ofhis that came out?
Speaker 3 (45:44):
Favorite Gene Hackman movie.
Sorry to put you on the spot.
You know I was thinking FrenchConnection the year I was born.
I'm not a huge fan of Hoosiers.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
I was going to ask Charlie if that was his.
No, I have an answer for thatone as well.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
I'm going to ask Charlie if that was his.
Yeah, no, I have an answer forthat one as well.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Oh, you do.
I'm going to ask you next.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
But if I'm just going to really luckily, really
quickly look at movies that Ireally appreciated Mississippi
burning, fantastic oh that's,that's my favorite favorite.
This is easily the best.
His best, uh, his, his lexluther uh, superman yes,
(46:37):
absolutely brilliant.
Uh, the best lex luther.
Uh, there's ever gonna be umconversation's.
Pretty good, that's right.
He's in that one scene in YoungFrankenstein.
That's funny Love.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
Young Frankenstein.
Young Frankenstein's a classic.
His last movie was Welcome toMooseport.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
Yeah, I know that was garbage, but the Royal
Tenenbaums which he hated beingin Because he did not understand
.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
That's my answer.
Your favorite is RoyalTenenbaums, that's my favorite
Gene Hackman movie by far.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
I'm surprised it's not Hoosiers.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
Well, I love Hoosiers , don't get me wrong.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
But Royal.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
Tenenbaums has a soft spot for me.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
Yeah, for me, my favorite is Mississippi Burning
Myself.
That movie just always stirs mewhen I watch it.
Um, uh, you know, it'ssomething about that period of
time in our country which isironic.
Um, that's all I'll say.
Um, but, uh, yeah, I just uh, I, I.
I think I agree with you, sam,too.
And and the fact that there wasno lexuthor like Gene Hackman's
(47:49):
Lex Luthor.
He brought a humanity to thatcharacter that necessarily you
wouldn't necessarily think ofand you almost want to.
Kind of it was fun to watch himbe like the way he was as Lex.
Speaker 3 (47:59):
So yeah, yeah, no it's tough because they've just
super.
I'm super heroed out, I'm soI've been watching I've got like
.
I've got like a new, newerproject I'm working on, which is
I'm trying to see every foreignfilm that was uh submitted, uh
(48:20):
in any give like from like lastyear, for the last five years,
essentially.
So I've got like a bunch oflike world maps, uh and like, so
they're all colored in, basedon like that's amazing
especially what I've seen versuslike, also like, were they
nominated when and I'm gettingup to like so 2023?
(48:42):
I've seen 30 of the 95submissions.
I don't even know how I canfind them.
I was going to say how do youfind most of these?
Tubi actually is amazing for it.
Prime is pretty good.
I've seen movies recently fromcountries like Lesotho and
(49:07):
Malaysia Movies.
I have never personally seenLesotho and Malaysia.
I have never, like personallyseen Kazakhstan, all the stands,
like you name it.
I've seen gone through CentralAmerica and it's important
because it gives you a snapshotOf that year Throughout the
(49:31):
entire world.
And so what?
I like to do Is take a journey,risk style, almost starting in
North America, and explain whatthese countries are Like or
going through at the currenttime and why they felt it was
important that this film was themovie that they wanted To
represent their, their country,at the Oscars.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
So yeah, I think it's interesting.
You say that because my degreeis in history.
I was a history major and oneof my concentrations was film
and historical kind of nothistorical film but film that
are filmed in certain times,frames and how you can view what
the world view was throughwatching a movie from a certain
(50:15):
period of time.
So you know, if you watch amovie from the thirties and you
see, you, you, you, you outsidethe plot and whatever the
movie's about, you can see theworld was under a depression and
you can kind of get a gist ofthat from what was selected and
from what you're seeing with theforeign films and what these
countries want to represent thebest of this country.
It's interesting to see it fromthat perspective and I think it
(50:39):
adds what you're doing, addssomething to the enjoyment of
the experience where you'rereally kind of you're not only
looking at the film for what thefilm is but you're looking at
it from the cultural aspect ofit.
I think that's awesome,inspiring, you know well, it's
very cool.
Speaker 3 (50:57):
I mean this soup, it's uh, you know, there's no
superheroes and there are nosequels uh, which is like yay,
but like, uh, for instance, uh,instance, charlie, a couple
weeks ago I saw a movie fromBurkina Faso, a Woogadoogoo, a
Woogadoogoo, the capital.
And you're like, how good coulda movie from Burkina Faso or
(51:21):
Lesotho or Uganda, you know, howgood could these movies be?
Answer amazing, like themajority of these films are so
much better than any of thegarbage that's been released in
American cinemas that it's likeI learned so much about
(51:44):
perspective the world, aboutperspective the world.
I can get out of this sort ofyour ethnocentric sort of
viewpoint and really embracehumanity as a whole.
Because when you see thesestories, these are just human
stories of people just trying tosurvive and get by Every
country.
(52:04):
It's the same for every country.
There are universal things thatgo throughout all countries and
you can see them in thesemovies and they're really,
they're beautiful.
I just really think that theymean more, because they're such
honest and important depictionsof, you know under, of cultures
(52:28):
that really just don't get a lotof representation.
They're really underrepresented, especially if you talk about
Africa, southeast Asia, you know, for them to get a chance to
show that like no, this isliterally what we're about and
you know we're impressive, youknow we're our own thing, but
we're modern and we're we.
You know we're our own thing,but we're modern and we're,
(52:49):
we're.
We can do it just as good asyou, uh, and that's that's.
I find that inspiring, uh, andit's one of the reasons why, uh,
you know, I well, I watched twoforeign films today.
Can you imagine one that was sobrutal that, by the way, that,
like if I were to write a listdown of what happens to our
(53:11):
protagonist, who's an11-year-old boy this is
post-World War II.
This is World War II CzechRepublic.
Oh, you wouldn't be able tobelieve it.
People just walked out of thismovie en masse because it was
just, but not me, not good oldsam, because his obsessive
(53:34):
nature doesn't allow him to justskip movies and stuff.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
I had to skip certain scenes because, nope uh,
trigger warning every possiblething you could ever like think
of yeah, I think I would kind ofskip that for the trauma I
don't I, I you know, I have myown trauma.
I don't need to bathe myself inthat.
Speaker 3 (53:57):
but yeah, I know, in that relationship I do find it
important to uh recognize that.
You know the trauma once againanother universal theme and
sadness and the brutality thatwas the 20th century.
(54:19):
There's a lot of darkness.
There's not a lot of fun stuffgoing on, say in the last 125
years.
So I like that movies canreflect that.
And don't get me wrong, I loveand some of these are really
funny, like thailand's entry forthis year is literally called
(54:40):
how to make millions beforegrandma dies it's one of my
favorite movies of the year umso yeah, uh, you range, it's got
the whole gamut, uh, from thesad as you can possibly imagine
to just hilariously goofy, tolike horror movie, and you get
to see just how these, these,all these different cultures
(55:02):
operate.
Speaker 1 (55:03):
I'm just always going to be eternally fascinated by
it, uh, and so yeah can youimagine if more people took time
just to open their world viewand just like looked at how
other countries lived or mademovies or anything, and just
open their eyes to culture, howmuch of a better world Well
(55:27):
where we are would be?
I mean, I just I honestly thinkpeople, if people just open
their eyes to see that the worldis not as big as you think it
is, it's kind of you know, we'reall in this kind of together
and I applaud you for doing that, sam, and I just wish more
people were conscientious towant to do that and I think it
would open eyes and maybe peoplenot be so in their place.
Speaker 3 (55:51):
That's what I'm going to try to do is I'm trying to,
uh, I'm gonna put this onlineand, uh, I've got a couple of
graphics I love that it's gonnabe fun, uh, but yeah, it's just
trying to try to get people toto engage more in that type of
thing, um, and yeah it's, yeah,it's right.
There you go.
Speaker 1 (56:09):
Cool, speaking of which you have a website sam
right, there you go, cool,speaking of which, you have a
website, sam right, can you youwant to bear with us it?
Speaker 3 (56:17):
has not been used in a bit.
The last thing I did was a top10 movies to watch before we all
went to London in October, so Ihave to get back into it A
little bit of a rut, but like,I've got all the ideas uh, and
(56:38):
I've been mostly focused on this, this foreign film thing.
So, uh, uh, yeah, and Charlieknows me, uh, when I, when I
start something, I don't finishit, uh, uh me.
Speaker 1 (56:58):
I don't finish it.
Uh well, just for our listeners, you, you guys.
Charlie and his friend sam andall their buddies went to a
bachelor party in london andjust hit it off.
Went to soccer games.
We talked about it a while ago,but yeah uh, no, yeah, that was
.
Speaker 3 (57:08):
I'd never been to europe before oh wow, that's
awesome, which is crazy becauseof like, of my obsession with
like, european history, like,but the flight over is crazy I
would be happy as a you know,happy as a clam to uh, to just
hang out there for months on end, but uh, I've never been able
(57:30):
to do it.
I was going to study abroad,but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (57:35):
You guys went to a pub, of course, right?
Speaker 3 (57:37):
Yes, you had to do that.
Speaker 1 (57:40):
I know you went to the soccer game because I was
jealous Charlie was texting methe pictures.
Speaker 3 (57:45):
We'll just say that Charlie made sure that Sam
didn't die the first time we gotthere.
That's true.
Speaker 1 (57:55):
That's true may have been over served and charlie
charlie made it across travelingand all that real quick, off,
off off a movie topic.
Real quick, sam, since the lasttime you we had you on the show
it it was right before I filmedTrivial Pursuit.
(58:16):
I'm going to guess you watchedthe episode and you probably
knew every single answer that Ididn't know.
Speaker 3 (58:24):
I think I remember texting Charlie yeah, Sam did
very well.
Yeah, no, yeah, I was fine, mynumber was.
Yeah was.
It would have been good enough,but um, yeah I was.
I was impressed by.
Well, you got hooked up hard uh, really, really big with the
(58:47):
mess question oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 (58:48):
With the derrick cheater yeah, yeah, the cheater
question, right, yeah, yeah.
With Derek Jeter yeah yeah, Iknow the Jeter question, right,
yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (58:53):
That was a huge.
And then the guy who was soangry that he lost to you, by
the way.
Speaker 1 (59:00):
Oh, he was not.
He was a nice.
He's really the sweetest,nicest guy but he was not happy.
I know Rich.
Speaker 3 (59:07):
Because he blew that lead man.
It was the foggy bottom one.
Speaker 1 (59:13):
Yes, I, um, it was the.
Was the, the, the foggy bottomone?
Yes, I knew that one.
Speaker 3 (59:15):
By the way, I didn't know that I'm like, I'm like,
and suzy said I'm like.
Oh my god, tim just won.
Speaker 1 (59:21):
I literally, when I'm hearing him say it, I'm like,
oh my god, he's wrong.
You know you're internalizing.
I I was like, oh yeah, I mean,I was like, oh no, it's
washington right so it wasexciting to see uh, you know you
, you technically win the game.
Speaker 3 (59:40):
You know technically, yeah, right, by default by
default, but yes uh listen, youknow I I was already.
Speaker 1 (59:52):
You know, I'll tell you real quick and not to rehash
the whole thing, but going inafter the first round, that
buzzer, I just could not get itfrom anything and the questions
I got right, you know, I mean Iknew seattle and I got, you know
, so many other ones.
It's because they didn't knowit.
You know, he even the beyoncequestion I knew and she, I mean
(01:00:13):
the other, the other contestantoutbuzzed me.
I was terrible at the buzzer.
So going into the second roundI was already at a handicap.
So that was, yeah, I had to askyou because, you know, right
before, basically I was gettingready to film the show when we
did our last episode.
Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
Right, exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
And I, you know to that point, don't be a stranger,
come on on, you're alwayswelcome anytime.
Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
I'm happy to happy to do it, uh, I was jealous you
were on.
Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Uh, I got a little trivial pursuit I think you know
we're gonna get sam on a show.
I, I think jeopardy trivialpursuit.
Uh, one of those shows, buddy,we gotta get you on because man
you would collect that moneydude you know your shit.
Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
Yes, and I need it more than ever.
Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
So let's do it all right, then let's you know,
charlie and I talk all the timeI will definitely pass along
anything I I get oh, absolutely,and uh, you know, thanks for
having me and uh of course lovetalking about the oscars.
Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
I don't really get to do this much, uh I appreciate
it yeah and and just a reminder.
Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
He did see all of them.
He did see all the best picturenoms yeah, which which is a
feat in itself.
Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
Uh, again one more time.
What's your website, sam?
Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
I want to make sure we get that out there.
Yeah, yeah, no worries, Iliterally have to look it up
because, uh, it's movies withprofessor frank, it's.
You can literally just go.
Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
Uh s frank 77 we're gonna put a link in this in this
podcast yeah, no worries.
Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
Uh, yeah, it just movies with Professor Frank.
I'm going to have far morepostings coming out.
I've got a top 10 coming outfor 2024.
I had to wait because I wantedto see everything, and now I
finally have.
I've seen just an absolutelyfilthy amount of movies that
came out last year.
Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
I'm going to ask you a favor and I know Charlie will
be on board with us too will youcome back on for our summer
movie preview special?
I'd love to hear yourperspective on the movies coming
out.
Awesome, I love it, love it.
We're, we're gonna talk, andyou know, coming up in a couple
months, I mean, believe it ornot, I mean it's march already.
The summer is almost here.
Um, we'll talk summer movies,definitely, definitely.
Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
Yeah, electric Slate coming out in a couple weeks,
anything else big?
Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
You got Electric State, you got Superman.
There's some interesting horrorflicks coming out, which is
Charlie will love to go see.
Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
Our buddy Mike is in Superman.
Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
Oh is he, he's in Extra Mickey 17.
Oh is he, he's an extra Mickey17.
Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
Oh right, mickey, 17.
Yeah, we got Bong Joon-ho'sfirst movie since Parasite.
I think I'm going to like thata lot, just because, great
director, great actor, robertPattinson is maybe the best
actor working today, if you askme.
Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
Twilight.
Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
Yeah, obviously you have to do.
That's crazy because KristenStewart and him they're both so
insanely talented, so good.
Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
Yeah, our buddy, real quick.
Our buddy Mike.
You know, when you watch thetrailer for the Superman film
and there's this girl thatSuperman rescues a blonde girl
he plays her father.
Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
The bomb's about to explode and he covers her up.
Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
He plays her father.
Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
Very interesting.
Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
They don't show Mike in the trailer, but he basically
went on to be an extra and theyupgraded his extra-ness.
Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
That scene from the trailer.
She runs into his arms after.
So we didn't see it in thetrailer, but when that scene
happens you'll notice them.
Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
Let me throw a real quick, late, early, early 2026
Oscar note.
Okay, yes, note the name.
He's won a lot of awards JeremyAllen White.
Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
Yeah, of course, oh the bear, we love him, Jeremy.
Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
He is portraying the boss himself, bruce Springsteen
next year.
Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
Oh, that's right.
Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
Yeah, he looks fairly unbelievable, so he's going to
get a run for his money.
I'm telling you, he looksfairly unbelievable.
He's going to get a run for hismoney.
Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
That's music to my ears.
Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
I love Bruce Springsteen and we love the bear
, of course.
He's a great actor.
Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
That's just a little throwout.
Love it.
Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
We're going to see you next, sam, on our movie
special.
Thank you for joining us.
Absolutely, this has been ARound of Aces.
The pop culture and sportspodcast.
Oscar preview special withspecial guests the professor.
Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
Sam Frank.
Sammy Frank.
Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
And I'm Tim Sternberg .
See you next week.
Everybody Happy Oscar watching.
Bye.
And I'm tim sternberg, see younext week.
Everybody happy oscar watching,bye.
Welcome to Around the Bases, a pop culture and sports
podcast, Oscar preview edition,with your host.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Charlie Seymour with special guest host, professor
Frank.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Professor Frank and I'm Tim Sternberg.
Hit it, nick.
All right, welcome, gentlemenfellas to this premiere Oscar
(00:39):
preview episode.
I forgot the tux.
I did not wear the tux.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Hey, you're black and white.
It's basically a tux.
I did not wear the tux.
Hey, you're black and white,it's basically a tux.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Oh man, Wow.
You know, unlike the Professor,I don't see every single movie,
but there's nothing moreexciting for me than the Oscars.
I mean, it's just I don't know,I just get such a jazz about it
.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
I heard some interesting Oscars trivia today.
I'm interested to see if eitherof you know the answer to this.
I purposely did not share itwith either of you today, so
you'd go in not knowing it Allright?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Well, I think Sam's going to get it.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Here's the question okay, conan O'Brien is hosting.
Now.
We all love Conanan.
He was not their first choice.
They a couple people turned itdown.
Now it got to talking about whypeople would do it or not do it
.
Do you know how much money thehost of the oscars makes?
(01:39):
Your dollars scale, yes, iszero dollars okay they make
scale.
Whatever the actors, guildscale is okay, now I don't know
if okay.
So you guys already have yourguesses.
Did you know that also before?
I get into the answer everyattendee of the oscars receives
a gift bag that's worth in oversix figures.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Okay, you guys didn't know that it's disgusting
what's in that bag like tripsand oh my god, people were
making big guesses.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Sam knew the question was probably tricks that went
low, the actually the answerisn't zero, it's between 10 and
15 000, but it does seem so forlike a couple hours work.
It seems like like for us heyanyone would do that, but
apparently some of the othershad said that.
You know it comes with morework than you think and it's a
(02:30):
lot of hassle.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
But I just found that was interesting.
Yeah no, I'm really excitedthat you know I don't usually
care that much about theceremony itself, Unless I'm
really invested in like aspecific movie, like everything
everywhere a couple years ago oh, I love that movie.
Yeah, it's just, uh, one of myfavorites, so me too, uh, yeah,
(02:55):
um.
But like this year isdefinitely interesting because,
although I do really like jimmykimmel, I mean conan is like
he's kind of like a god, so thatwill push you into the, into
the interested in it slightly ohyeah, no, I'll watch it.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I'm gonna watch it for Conan for sure there's no
good music there's not a singlegood song that can be performed,
so he's great with you know,conan is like kind of like
letterman was like he realquippy, kind of real off the
cuff kind of.
Well, we know conan, um, Ithink it's gonna be fun, I think
(03:35):
it's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Uh, he won't insult people necessarily you probably
won't have the same level ofeverything everywhere all at
once, sam, but who?
What is this year's?
As close, I won't have the samelevel of everything everywhere
all at once, sam, but what isthis year's?
I won't say the same, butessentially, what is that?
This year's movie for you Like.
Who are you rooting for in the?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
awards.
Anybody, no, nothing particularlast year, when I had so many
movies that were I thought weremasterpieces, that were
nominated for best picture,including, you know, past lives,
poor things, barbie, um, acouple of the others, uh oh uh,
(04:18):
maestro, uh, yeah, I justthought these were even
Oppenheimer.
These were all just such geniusmovies.
Were even Oppenheimer?
These were all such geniusmovies.
And this year I wanted to fallin love with one of the ones
that's probably going to winBest Picture, but one I really
like, that I think deserves it,and then a couple others that
(04:40):
are like what on earth?
Okay, which one?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
in particular.
Were you thinking there?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I think the most appropriate winner would be a
Nora.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
One I haven't seen.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Yeah, no, it just feels like alive and it feels
like it's of this age, of thistime really.
And I thought just really goodacting performances by two
nominees Mikey Madison, who isjust fantastic as the title
character, and then Yuri Borisov, who was nominated for Best
(05:18):
Supporting Actor, who I just sawin a Finnish film called
Compartment no 6, and I wasreally wowed by him.
So then I actually watched thatfirst.
Then I saw this.
I'm like, oh, wow, that guy.
And I'm like, oh, my goodness,this guy is gonna be legit.
He's like very russian.
So I don't know he, I don'tknow how much he knows the
(05:39):
language, but like really,really impressive.
So yeah I think, anora uh, andit has heart to it and um, just
got it feels alive, as opposedto other films that feel like
kind of dead on arrival to melike.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Can you give us a quick synopsis of the movie like
what is it about?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
anora is about a?
Um stripper slash sex worker.
Uh, probably the craziestopening scene you're gonna see
all year.
Um, yeah, it'll grab yourattention for the first 30
seconds.
I can guarantee you that.
Uh, that's all I'll say aboutthat, uh, and then um, uh, she,
(06:17):
um, eventually um falls and sortof falls in love.
But like, has this likewhirlwind relationship with this
like russian kid who's clearlylike an oligarch son, uh, and
things just kind of go nuts fromthere takes place in coney
island.
It's got a really authenticfeel there, real close, and just
(06:39):
I loved the some of theperformances.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
So yeah, it's great reviews so I can understand what
you're talking about timely,with the oligarch type of thing
and current events andeverything that's happening and
that sort of thing.
So yeah, I'm definitely goingto add that to my list, which,
as Charlie knows, is very long.
I, recently.
(07:02):
So, if you don't mind, I'llshare something Out of the 10
movies that are nominated.
I, I recently.
So I, if you don't mind, I'llshare something I, I, out of the
what is it?
10 movies that are nominated.
I've seen three of them.
So, yay me.
Um, I've seen um Amelia Perez.
I've seen um, uh, a completeunknown, and in my favorite wick
(07:22):
, I love, I love, wicked.
Um, I don't think it's going towin Best Picture, but I love
the movie.
I remember texting Charlieafter I watched it, going this
is going to win Best Picture.
I didn't see anything else.
This is going to win BestPicture.
Blah, blah, blah send.
Because I loved it.
It's a fun movie to watch andI've seen it several times.
(07:43):
But out of the three that I'veseen, uh, emilio perez.
Emilia perez is crazy.
It's a crazy movie.
I will say that uh, wow, um,and I thought I thought, uh, you
know who was shockingly good inemilia perez was, um, oh
goodness gracious, uh, thesinger, selena Gomez.
(08:07):
Oh my God, selena Gomez wasfantastic.
Zoe Saldana was fantastic, Ithink they.
I think I don't understand whyZoe Saldana wasn't nominated for
best actress and she wassupporting.
Uh, it's weird to me, but theywere both, selena Gomez,
surprisingly good, like I wasn'texpecting that from her.
And she doesn't have a huge rolein the movie.
(08:28):
Uh, she plays, uh, the drug.
I don't want to give too muchaway, but she plays the, the
dealer's wife.
So I'll say that.
You know, I won't kind of saywhat happens in the movie.
It's a lot of twists and turnsin the movie, but I will say, of
the three, my most enjoyablemovie that I think could win.
I love Wicked, but I think AComplete Unknown is fantastic.
(08:50):
It took me right back to the60s and Bob Dylan and I think
Timothee Chalamet was fantasticin the movie.
So we'll kind of see how thatplays out.
What were your thoughts onthose movies, sam?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Emilio Perez is hot trash.
I love it.
It movies sam emilio perez ishot trash.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
It's a good way to put it.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
It's also insulting to, like, the transgender
community.
It's insulting to the mexicancommunity.
Uh, it's done by a white frenchguy who created an opera out of
like a cartel leader who thenhas the surgery and then is then
absolved of all the horriblethings they had done, so they
(09:30):
become a civil rights hero.
What?
And it's a musical and it's amusical.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
That was crazy to me.
Did you notice how the, the,the drug dealer, was all kind of
dirty and old skin and all of asudden, amelia Perez has the
smoothest skin on the planet?
She's clean, literally clean,and it was a whole dichotomy of
dirty versus clean.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
True, but Carlos Sofia Gascon, who is the actress
who was nominated, is actuallya transgender actress recently,
so she transitioned, I think, nomore than maybe 10 years ago.
Um, so, uh, she was one.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah, um, I thought she was she played both parts
too, you know yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Yeah, uh, like any, any movie that has lyrics to
that one song where they'retalking to the doctor uh, um,
that was crazy.
It's just like uh, it doesn't.
It's just insulting on everylevel.
So that's yeah terrible,terrible Zoe Zaldana will win.
Uh, the she was fantastic forbest supporting actors.
(10:40):
She's fantastic, but there isnot a likable character in sight
within a million miles in thatmovie no, 100 no nobody's
redeemable, I don't care.
Uh, and I just found and this is, uh, the director whose other
works I've found to be justreally fantastic, uh, when he
(11:02):
does like like his french filmthat he did in 2014 that won I
believe the palm d'or was calledd-pond.
It was the story of a srilankan immigrant, uh, who kind
of just has to make his way incrazy paris just trying to
survive with like a makeshiftfamily, and I thought was like,
oh, this is so.
So I came in expecting a littlebit more because it obviously
(11:26):
had won.
I mean, it can Like all fouractresses won, they combined for
the best actress.
So I'm like okay, and then thewhole fact is they didn't know
Spanish.
Like Selena Gomez doesn't knowSpanish.
She had to learn it in 25 days.
That's not going to pass withnative speakers in any way,
(11:46):
shape or form.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
The whole movie is subtitles.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
So misguided, so misguided, that movie.
But that's enough for that.
Complete Unknown is actuallysomehow.
I like that less than AmeliaPerez, really.
Yeah, it's my least favorite ofthe the ten.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Bob Dylan has no personality, that's true, I've
gone to concerts with him.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
So we did too, but that was way late, but still
it's like, oh god, that musthave been interesting.
The main conflict being the 64Fol festival in newport.
And then people are like, oh,we can't have electric.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I'm like, and everyone, oh, it's like, oh,
shut up uh that was true, though, was it wasn't it what that
they knew?
That was true.
That that's literally.
I agree with you.
It's ridiculous, but that wastrue to the time right it was
true the time, but overplayed uhdramatically.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
I think that scene was lovely and I really thought
monica barbara who did it was uhjoan baez was fantastic and
yeah, she was really good.
Shale may timmy shale may isgreat too.
I love him.
Uh, that obviously not myperform, my favorite performance
by him he was better in wonka,but yes which we'll get to in a
(13:14):
little bit, uh later, uh, withmy favorite movie yeah, I was
gonna say to tim, he's also inanother movie, nominated this
year.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Oh, he is okay.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
See, I didn't see it but it's, it's on your list,
your it's on your list.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
So it's on my list uh , but and then finally, uh, what
was the last one?
Speaker 1 (13:30):
oh, uh, wicked, wicked wicked.
Okay, so it's interesting, it'smy favorite of the three
personally me too, um, easily,um, and charlie has to see the
whole movie it's likable, um,like it.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
It takes a little bit of time to get used to, uh,
sort of the how hard everyone'strying, um, and I give them all
credit because these are allpeople who probably musical
theater and they've always,everyone's always wanted to be
the star in wicked or whatever,or just to be in it.
So there's a lot of try hard.
But cynthia revo geniusfantastic, oh my god that voice
(14:12):
and she's just a great actressin general.
She was great to watch.
She was harriet tubman a fewyears back and I thought she was
great there and she gotnominated um, but you know it is
half a movie yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
So for those listeners who don't understand,
so, Wicked is going to bereleased in two parts and if you
watched a Broadway play whichI've seen, the second half after
intermission is basically thesecond movie and really that's
where I don't know if you'veseen the play.
That's where stuff reallystarts to pick up and there's a
lot of connections that I can'treally talk about now, but you
(14:46):
kind of it makes the charactersin this movie become something
else I'll say okay.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
So does that mean that the play was like five and
a half hours long?
Speaker 1 (14:55):
no, or they just extended the movie severely it
is a long musical it is.
It is kind of, I think it'slike a two and a half hour
musical or something like that.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
But the first movie was longer than the whole
musical.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Right, what they did is they stretched so much out of
and they added some songs thatwere not in the musical and I'll
say I loved Wicked before Ieven saw the movie.
I went in with these highexpectations and I thought you
know Cynthia Erivo and I thoughtshe was just absolutely
(15:27):
fantastic.
I thought ariana grande was asurprise.
I mean I don't think she's bestsupporting actress material by
any means, but I think shedefinitely brought a presence to
the movie and that was nice forsomeone who doesn't usually do
this.
Um, and so I, I mean I, I, Ithought the music, I love the
(15:47):
music in the movie.
I thought the last scene of youknow, I mean I'm not really
spoiling anything but cynthiarevo hovering over the castle
with that end note and I just tofor the end the movie, that way
, it was just, it was fantastic,it was just really fun, yeah,
yeah oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Oh, I won't do it.
It's uh, yeah, no, it's.
It's a perfectly pleasant movieand in a year, in a down year,
uh, where I'm trying to think ofother things that I would have
not, and there are other thingsbut like, uh, they would go in
over like a complete unknown andAmelia Perez and all that stuff
(16:26):
.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
You think.
Let me ask you, Sam and Charlie, do you think it's part of its
recently recency bias?
You know, you notice how it'susually always the movies that
are released after, likeSeptember, that are nominated
for Oscars.
It's rare that I mean it doeshappen, but it's rare that a
movie released over the summer,before the summer is nominated.
You think it's that that amovie released over the summer
(16:47):
or before the summer isnominated?
Speaker 3 (16:50):
You think it's that recency bias.
That's why we end up with themovies that we get or what.
There's just lots ofcampaigning going on.
If that's a refresher in yourmind, sure, but Oscar things
that are going to be in theawards season, movies like that
they usually try to delay themuntil around the Toronto Film
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Festival.
So September TIFF is usuallythe big thing where everything
comes out after TIFF.
So yeah, although that's notalways the case, think of early
year releases like the last twobest picture winners.
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Uh, were both like I thinkeverything was like an April
release.
Yeah, I know Oppenheimer waslike that June or July release.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
And Barbie was a summer movie too, yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yeah, so once again we don't have as much.
There's not a lot of as muchstar power as last year, or
firepower in my opinion, butthere are some great movies.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
One of the other best picture movies that we also
watched that I saw.
We also saw Conclave.
I thought that was pretty good.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
You saw that one as well, sam yep, uh, you have to
ask me, chuck, I've seen a lotI've seen every movie, every
movie that has been nominatedfor every award, other than one
documentary that I can't find.
So we're other than that.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
You're good uh so conclave, I assume, is about the
you know the pope dying andthem.
It is about that um, and it has.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Its plot is wild again.
Yeah, uh.
And if it were to win bestpicture, which it does, have an
outside shot.
I mean, the last 20 minutes areso preposterous, so insanely
ludicrous, that it just loses.
And I know you're supposed tosuspend your disbelief when
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you're watching movies, buteverything I know about
everything we know about, youknow, the church and the Vatican
, there is no chance, oh, now Ihave to see it so it's
frustrating because it's likereally well written, it's very
taught, it's very like I reallylove the tense moments good
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acting exactly and edwardberger's previous movie, which
was all quiet on the Westernfront.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Oh, really I didn't realize that.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
The direction is very impressive, I will say that,
and the performances are alsogreat.
But you lost me, and Charlieknows exactly what I'm talking
about.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yeah, we won't spoil that for you, but I will say
that I predicted what wouldhappen pretty early into that
movie to Rosie.
So yeah, I don't like when thathappens.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Wait, you did not predict the end, not the twist
within the twist.
I also was on the same page ofyeah, I pretty much knew, but
the end, that final little yeah,oh my god now I have to see it.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
I mean, I wow, okay, so conclave is on my list and
that one is is free to stream.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Where is it, um peacock?
Speaker 1 (20:22):
okay, I didn't want to.
Yeah, I was talking to charliesam.
I didn't want to streamanything because it was so last
minute, uh, anything that he saw.
That's why I saw amelia.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
I, I, I, I sacrificed myself and saw amelia perez um
not gonna lie, I I had a littlebit of heard, and when tim
hadn't watched anything yet, I'mlike, well if well, if I watch
Conclave first, then maybe he'llhave to sacrifice and watch the
other one.
So sorry about that.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
But I see you know and I texted you, you're a team
player.
Yes, I am, and I said to Charlie, just so you know, Sam, I
texted him.
I'm like I could see why it wasnominated.
And I say that to say it wasvery, almost like if you're
going to package up a movie tobe like, try to touch all these
areas that are currents with youknow what's happening in the
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world, that would be the movie,although I wouldn't put it
together that way.
Like you said, I believe it'salso insulting to the trans
community and kind of what.
And now, mind you, I have noplace to speak for that
community, but from what I'veheard too, they did not.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
They've come out and said what is this?
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Right.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Right.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
It's just so ridiculous.
I mean and you know it'sinteresting you say that because
as I'm watching the movie, Ihad no idea it was a musical
right.
So I'm watching it and all of asudden they break out into a
song.
I'm like I turn, I'm watchingit and all of a sudden they
break out into a song.
I'm like I turn.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
I'm like what is going on?
What is happening?
Yeah, because it's reallyabrupt.
The musical numbers come out ofnowhere.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
It's such a serious drama that you're like all of a
sudden there's a musical number.
Yes, that was kind of like theshow before your guys' time.
It was a show on ABC called CopRock, I'm so bad, oh man.
So if I, oh yeah, go ahead, goahead no, I was just gonna say,
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of the movies that you've seen,all the movies.
Just chuck, he's seen all themovies.
Of all the movies you've seen,what?
is and they're not all thegreatest.
What is your favorite of thebunch, if you have one that you
kind of enjoyed more than theothers?
Speaker 3 (22:29):
sure uh.
And also let me give a a coupleof uh, uh shout outs to movies
that didn't get nominated forbest picture list of those.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
I've got it down, it down.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
I've got two in particular.
That would be a real pain, ashocking omission in my opinion.
And the other would be SingSing another pretty shocking
omission in my opinion.
Both of those have beennominated for acting awards, so
they are on my notable mentions,honorable mentions, right and
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then?
So what we're going to?
The best movie nominated forBest Picture is Dune 2.
Really, I believe.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
And that's for the earlier Easter egg, that's
Timothy Hamill.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Timothy Schaal yeah, because I remember him.
He was in Dune 1.
Yes, and I haven't seen eitherone.
But okay, Dune 2 is so good.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Yeah, it's so unbelievably good.
The acting is so it'sessentially a perfect science
fiction movie.
I've got no notes, it's thatgood.
You know, denny Villeneuve isjust the best big game director
there is and he just keepshitting it out of the park.
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And then adding Austin Butleras the menacing Faye Ratha just
was awesome.
And he goes a couple of scenesthat are just pure black and
white and the way his use ofcolor is nuts, so cool.
So Dune 2, probably maybe thebest science fiction, pure
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science fiction movie I haveever seen.
So there's that.
The second one that I reallywish, really wish in some way
could win Best Picture theSubstance.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
I want to see that really, really badly.
Yeah, I want to see that reallyreally badly.
Yeah, I want to see that.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Let me more.
Uh, yeah, it's a body horror uhflick uh, and it's pretty crazy
.
Margaret qually, uh, does agreat job.
Um, uh, they're kind of thesame.
I'm not going to really getinto it, but yeah, you'll get it
pretty quickly.
Margaret Qualley, by the way,is beautiful, andy McDowell's
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daughter, so you know, you gotthat and it's like a very angry
film.
I saw the other two films thatthis French female director had
directed and yeah, it's angry,it's funny, it's poking at
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beauty standards in Hollywoodand then just like really
needling at the patriarchy too.
And it's got.
We've seen, we know that thereare some movies on this list
that have some bonkers endings.
Now I gotta get more bonkers inthe substance, uh that's
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interesting.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Do you think I'm hearing a lot of buzz about demi
more?
Do you think she has a shot towin her first oscar?
Speaker 3 (25:50):
uh, I can do real quick, uh, real, just a real
quick breakdown in my end ofwhat I think is going to win.
Uh, it's best picture is thetoughest one I've.
No, I I'm moving on with honora, although I could easily see
the brutalist or Conclave doingit.
Best Director I would also giveto Sean Baker.
He's just consistently puttingout great movies.
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He's Onora's director.
So there's that, and then theActing Awards.
Closest one, in my opinion, isprobably actor, and that's gonna
be a battle between adrianbrody uh, adrian brody, the
brutalist and and tim chalamet,and uh and uh, complete unknown.
(26:38):
Uh, I still think adrianbrody's the favorite, but watch
out for timothy chalamet.
He's a late riser.
He won the sag award on sundaydid?
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Did Adrian Brody win for the piano?
I don't remember.
He won for the pianist, thepianist right.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Yeah, my bad.
Which is such an amazing movieand also way better than
Brutalist.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Brutalist is a Holocaust movie.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
What.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Is it a Holocaust movie?
Pianist is a Holocaust movie no, Brutalist.
What Is it a Holocaust movie?
No, Brutalist.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
They're both Holocaust movies.
It's not really a Holocaustmovie, it's more like a
post-Holocaust movie.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Oh okay.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
It takes place mostly in the United States, if not
the entire.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Is it about Nazi hunting?
I mean, is it no?
Speaker 3 (27:19):
no, it's actually about a guy named Laszlo Toth, a
real guy.
He was a, uh, hungarian, uhjewish architect, uh of the
brutalist kind.
I don't know if you don't knowwhat brutalism is, um, but it's
like a type of kind of likeoppressive architecture, that's
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yeah symbolize, you know, umkind of being closed in and and
yeah, it's definitely impressive.
It's the story of him, hisjourney, his 50-year post-war
journey, him being an architect.
Eventually he works for GuyPearce.
It is three and a half hourslong.
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Is that the movie?
Speaker 1 (28:11):
that has an intermission.
There's a movie that has anintermission.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Yeah, there's an intermission and it's
beautifully shot, so it's goingto win Best Cinematography.
Wait, there's actually Wait.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
explain the intermission.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Oh, in older movies for Chuck, especially the longer
epics and God I know I'vewatched enough in the last
couple years they would alwayshave about halfway through, in
between Acts 1 and 2,essentially you're going to have
a musical interlude.
Sometimes they would actuallyhave an actual band playing.
(28:50):
Um, as it's usually just a timefor you to go to the bathroom
and maybe get snacks so in themovie, four hours is brutal.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
What.
What do they do in the actual?
Speaker 3 (29:00):
brutalist.
Oh in, the brutalist it's justuh, it's real quick.
It's not meant to be like that,it's meant to just be kind of
like almost a crossover betweenAct 1 and.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Act 2.
So it's just like a minute ortwo of black screen.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Yeah, exactly Okay, and then so, just real quick, we
got Demi Moore, I believe, isgoing to win, and if she doesn't
, it'll be Fernanda Torres fromI'm Still here, which I just saw
, which whatever Best SupportingActress is going to be.
Kieran Culkin, brilliant In areal pain, and there's some
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really good performances.
These are not who I would pick,by the way.
This is just who's gonna win,and I know so is aldana will win
best supporting actress.
Uh sure, why not uh, but uhyeah and they have two movies.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
You know, amelia perez has two songs, which I
don't understand, that arenominated for best song?
I didn't find a single songthat was good in that movie.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
The Last Showgirl, which was such a great movie
with Pamela Anderson, which sheshould have been nominated for
Best Actress.
She was so good there's anamazing song at the end by Miley
Cyrus called Beautiful that Way, which is literally the outro
to the movie, as, as we hit thecredits and it just like such a
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like a lovely, just reallyemotional, and like, nope Cause,
diane Warren has to getnominated for the 16th straight
year for a movie that no one'sever seen, and I'm not even
making that up.
She's been nominated 16straight years.
Yeah, how many times she won?
Speaker 1 (30:55):
zero times, uh, so she just likes going to the
auroras and having her camera onher and when they say you know
when they do the nominations andthe nominees are sweet 16 for
the win I don't know, uh, it'sgonna be for that tyler perry,
uh, uh, pilot likeafrican-american female pilot
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movie that nobody saw, calledthe triple six saint or
something, uh.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
But yeah, um, I'm really good.
I'm overall kind of just downabout the Oscars this year, just
because I'm just not really inlove with the movies or the
performances outside of a couplelike things that like really
impressed me surprisingly.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah, let's talk about one of those that we
haven't mentioned so far, that Ithink.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
I know which one you're going to bring up.
I know.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
I'm pretty confident that Sam agrees the wild robot
Animated movie yes, the wildrobot Oof.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
I adore the wild robot.
Chuck, you can definitely talkto us about the wild robot.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Charlie told me like he kept telling me you got to
robot.
Charlie told me, like he kepttelling me you gotta watch this
movie, you gotta watch thismovie, you gotta.
I was finally on a flight tonew york, do going to work, do
this job, and it was on theplane and I'm like I'm texting
him and, like you know, I'm likeI'm watching the wild robot.
He's like you're on the plane,you're watching it on that
little screen.
And yeah, charlie, tell us whyyou love that movie so much yeah
(32:25):
that, oh, man, it's just.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Oh, it's so, so good, it's so good.
I've been recommending it toanyone who would listen.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Um, just the heart and soul of that story is just
so good that's what it is yeah,I mean you fall in love with the
robot, you fall in love withthe animals, you just fall in
love.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
I mean it's just a lovely movie yeah, no, no, it's,
it's pretty perfect, uh, reallyreally good, uh, uh.
Animation this year is reallyinteresting because there's
another movie there that I amabsolutely obsessed with.
It's both nominated for bestforeign film and and Best
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Animated Film, and it's wordlessand it's yeah, it's called Flow
and you can now see it on Max.
If you've got it, it's 75minutes.
I don't want to spoil it in anyway, shape or form Just go with
it, man.
And if you also have AmazonPrime, this guy directed a movie
(33:32):
called Away in 2019.
He's Latvian, his name is GintzZibilotis and he directed this
movie by himself, wrote it,animated it, scored it.
He literally was the movie, andso, like it's just shocking,
scored it.
He literally was the movie, andso like it's just shocking.
It's so simple but like, soheartfelt.
(33:55):
I'm obsessed with it.
I think it should win.
I wouldn't be upset if it wonbest animated feature, but, once
again, the wild robot is prettyperfect too.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
I've heard great things about flow as well.
That's on our to-do list one ofthese days soon.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
They're not going to let hundreds of, they're not
going to give hundreds ofbeavers a whole bunch of awards,
which is the crime, butwhatever.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Tim does not know about that one.
You should know.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Hundreds of beavers, it's everywhere.
Just watch it.
It's all I'm gonna say.
Hundreds of beavers, if youlike like the animal beaver yeah
, and the number hundreds yeahhundreds I'll have to check it
out uh, it's one.
It's the funniest movie I'veseen.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
This my list is gonna get so long.
Okay, this literally thefunniest movie this.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
If you're saying that , that's huge praise on a
hundred and fifty thousanddollar budget.
Um so clever, um it's imaginelike that looks freaking
hilarious.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
It's just a poster it's.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
I can't even begin to describe how I've been trying
to get people to watch thismovie, charlie knows for like
six months.
Every time something comes, Iwould just go beavers can I say,
can I say so?
Speaker 1 (35:27):
the quote on the poster?
You know how they have thequote it says exist at the
crossroads of looney tunes,benny hill, cannibal, the
musical blazing salad and adultswim mindsets hilarious.
That is the quote on the posteryeah, no, I really think it's.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
It's like live action Looney Tunes with just such
surrealist.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
How did I never hear this movie?
That's crazy, it's because it'sreally.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
It was very under the radar, like I didn't even know
about it until like I think itwas the playoffs where the
Brewers lost and somebody liketweeted out that's all right,
brewer, I think it was theplayoffs where the Brewers lost
and somebody tweeted out that'sall right, Brewer, turn the game
off and just give everybody afree round and turn on hundreds
of Beavers Because it takesplace in Wisconsin.
(36:19):
And I'm like what, okay?
And then I watched it and thenby the 20 or 25 minutes I was
just like there's just no way.
There's just no way.
Your ongoing jokes after thesixth or seventh time they still
get me.
It's like how are you gettingme that right now?
(36:41):
It's so good.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
A beaver believer.
Yeah, no I am Charlie, have youseen it?
Speaker 2 (36:50):
I have not seen it yet, but we're gonna have to see
it, man we're gonna have to seeit like I'm just looking at the
youtube clip, it's hilariousall right for a comedy it's.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
It's tough to get a really high like, for instance,
like a Metacritic score.
It's an 82 on Metacritic.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Wow, what is it on Rotten Tomatoes?
Speaker 3 (37:14):
I'm sure it's a hundred.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
It's probably a hundred yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
I have to I love this .
Speaker 1 (37:19):
I love these cult type of movies that you know, no
one ever like.
White hot American summer waslike that for me.
It was like that for me.
I wasn't expecting anything andI laughed my ass off.
South Park the movie same thingI'm like, I love this.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
You should love this.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Love that.
I'm going to definitely checkit out.
I like a good comedy.
Hundreds of Beavers, beaverBelievers.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Watch it guys.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
There's one other speaking of although I don't
know if that is animated butanother animated movie I want to
give a quick shout out to.
We just watched that I wasobsessed with was Wallace and
Gromit the new one.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
I used to watch the old one when I was a kid.
How was that?
Speaker 2 (38:04):
It was fantastic.
Fantastic, it was very good.
If you like the old ones, ithit all the right spots.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
And there's another one, I don't know if it reaches
the heights of like a Shaun ofthe Sheep, but like the Martin
Studios, but like it's still sogood, there's such a silly duo
that it works perfectly.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
And there's so many little things that if you're not
fully paying attention youwouldn't notice.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
So there's so many psych gags.
I love that there's so manypsych gags that you actually
have to watch it several timesto get them all.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Yes, exactly, yeah, for sure, absolutely, were there
any other movies you wanted togive a shout-out to Not
necessarily Best Picture for theyear.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Yeah.
I wouldn't mind.
Well, I've got the list infront of me.
Charlie the Better man.
Robbie Williams' biopic.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Really.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
I have not seen that that, but really gotten really
solid reviews so I'm having ahard time wrapping my head
around that movie thrust throughthe trailer, because why would
robbie williams be an ape?
Is he an ape?
Or something like that.
Like why, though?
Why isn't it just robbie?
Oh?
Speaker 3 (39:26):
oh boy, it does.
That hit like really thismovie's got feels like big feels
to it and there's a he's veryhonest and like about him
screwing up.
And there's like a really likeit's a crazy thing with the ape
thing because he just like looksback in the mirror and the
mirror just like kind of tellshim that he's horrible.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Oh, so it's like this analogy.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Oh, it's a little bit like that, but you really have
to see it.
It's something that I couldn'thave ever predicted would
actually be a movie.
It cost $110 million.
It made $10 million back.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
So yeah, but if people had taste it where it
made money better streaming Ithink, honestly, the, the
promotion of it, was not thegreatest, at least in my eyes.
Going into, you know, justseeing it before a movie I saw
it before wicked, I think thetrailer and and just seeing it I
(40:26):
I was like what is thestupidity?
Because it didn't make sense,like it didn't connect what your
theme you're talking about, thetheming of the movie, to the
trailer.
The trailer just looked like itwas robbie williams as a monkey
.
And here you go, and I don'tthink they did a great job in
marketing it at all uh, no, notat all.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Uh, which was not surprised.
I mean movies have really gothit hard in the box office,
especially the last couple ofyears.
I mean superhero movies arefinally starting to die out,
thank God.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
No more Avengers.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
I just can't do it anymore.
I'm really depressed.
In a couple of weeks We've gotthe electric state coming out,
which is one of my probably myfavorite art book of all time
Wow, by Simon Stonehog.
It's absolutely a stunner.
(41:24):
And the Russo brothers behindAvengers and Captain America
made a movie out of it, althoughthey changed the entire plot,
which did nothing but infuriateall the hardcore fans, because
they didn't need it.
And then they spent $330million on the budget and it's
(41:49):
being released straight toNetflix in two weeks.
Billy, bobby Brown, chris Pratt, ki Kwan, stanley Tucci.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
Hugh Maron.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Why direct to Netflix , though?
Speaker 3 (42:05):
It was a Netflix project.
The Russo brothers did thiswith the with the gray man a few
years back ago, which wasanother like how do these people
keep getting such insanebudgets?
That was like 150 milliondollars for that movie.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
I'm like they keep jacking up netflix every month.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
That's how it's way for it they gotta crank out that
new content so you, you, you'rereal excited about that,
obviously because it's a bookthat you love.
And are you nervous, though,whenever?
No, no, no, I'm actually notexcited at all oh okay, yeah,
because anytime they turn a bookI really love into a movie, it
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makes me crazy.
I get really nervous, I reallycool time.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
These are weird.
These are art books that havethis crazy visual style that
he's amazing with, usually setin Sweden because he's Swedish.
So they did Tales from the Loop.
That was on Prime.
That was a show that was justbased off of another.
(43:17):
I have all of his books writtenin front of me.
But yeah, it's just depressingwhen corporate takes your
favorite stuff and decides tothat they just squeeze every
penny out of it.
That's soulless and I'm notinto soullessness.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Well, there's something I agree with you.
There's something to be said.
You know, when you read a novel, especially as a kid you know I
mentioned A Wrinkle in Time youcreate in your head, as you're
reading the novel, the worldright, the world that these
characters are living in.
Of course the author explainsit, but you're still looking at
it from your own kind ofperspective.
(43:58):
And when a director films amovie, produces a movie, they're
filming a movie.
At their perspective.
It doesn't necessarily matchfrom what I'm seeing or you saw
in reading the book and it'salways, almost always,
disappointing, I find.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
Yeah, I it's not always but, I love it when like
uh, maybe the and they take itin a different direction, not a
lot like a Kubrick and theshining, oh yeah, yeah, the
original story, uh, so it in adifferent direction, not a lot
like a kubrick and the shiningoh yeah, you're a shiny, uh, so
I mean you can take stuff likethat and still make it
(44:36):
impressive.
But like what, if you're goingto say something that is so like
, uh, how I describe his art,it's just so serene and like
kind of cold but also beautiful,uh, and to make a bunch of to a
(44:57):
rock and sock of robot movie,which is what they did, I'm like
, okay, there's none of that, uh, in this book I love.
So I'm glad you spent $330million on something, somebody
that nobody knows anything aboutexcept for the hardcore like
Stalin, the hog ice.
So, yeah, that was a weird oneto me.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
It's it's tough to stomach.
Well, we have you here.
I do have a quick question foryou, sam, because you're the
professor we just lost two daysago.
Well, we lost a while ago.
We just found out two days agothat the late, great Gene
Hackman passed away.
Gene Hackman, probably one ofthe greatest actors of my
lifetime, in my opinion.
What's your favorite film ofhis that came out?
Speaker 3 (45:44):
Favorite Gene Hackman movie.
Sorry to put you on the spot.
You know I was thinking FrenchConnection the year I was born.
I'm not a huge fan of Hoosiers.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
I was going to ask Charlie if that was his.
No, I have an answer for thatone as well.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
I'm going to ask Charlie if that was his.
Yeah, no, I have an answer forthat one as well.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Oh, you do.
I'm going to ask you next.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
But if I'm just going to really luckily, really
quickly look at movies that Ireally appreciated Mississippi
burning, fantastic oh that's,that's my favorite favorite.
This is easily the best.
His best, uh, his, his lexluther uh, superman yes,
(46:37):
absolutely brilliant.
Uh, the best lex luther.
Uh, there's ever gonna be umconversation's.
Pretty good, that's right.
He's in that one scene in YoungFrankenstein.
That's funny Love.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
Young Frankenstein.
Young Frankenstein's a classic.
His last movie was Welcome toMooseport.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
Yeah, I know that was garbage, but the Royal
Tenenbaums which he hated beingin Because he did not understand
.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
That's my answer.
Your favorite is RoyalTenenbaums, that's my favorite
Gene Hackman movie by far.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
I'm surprised it's not Hoosiers.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
Well, I love Hoosiers , don't get me wrong.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
But Royal.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
Tenenbaums has a soft spot for me.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
Yeah, for me, my favorite is Mississippi Burning
Myself.
That movie just always stirs mewhen I watch it.
Um, uh, you know, it'ssomething about that period of
time in our country which isironic.
Um, that's all I'll say.
Um, but, uh, yeah, I just uh, I, I.
I think I agree with you, sam,too.
And and the fact that there wasno lexuthor like Gene Hackman's
(47:49):
Lex Luthor.
He brought a humanity to thatcharacter that necessarily you
wouldn't necessarily think ofand you almost want to.
Kind of it was fun to watch himbe like the way he was as Lex.
Speaker 3 (47:59):
So yeah, yeah, no it's tough because they've just
super.
I'm super heroed out, I'm soI've been watching I've got like
.
I've got like a new, newerproject I'm working on, which is
I'm trying to see every foreignfilm that was uh submitted, uh
(48:20):
in any give like from like lastyear, for the last five years,
essentially.
So I've got like a bunch oflike world maps, uh and like, so
they're all colored in, basedon like that's amazing
especially what I've seen versuslike, also like, were they
nominated when and I'm gettingup to like so 2023?
(48:42):
I've seen 30 of the 95submissions.
I don't even know how I canfind them.
I was going to say how do youfind most of these?
Tubi actually is amazing for it.
Prime is pretty good.
I've seen movies recently fromcountries like Lesotho and
(49:07):
Malaysia Movies.
I have never personally seenLesotho and Malaysia.
I have never, like personallyseen Kazakhstan, all the stands,
like you name it.
I've seen gone through CentralAmerica and it's important
because it gives you a snapshotOf that year Throughout the
(49:31):
entire world.
And so what?
I like to do Is take a journey,risk style, almost starting in
North America, and explain whatthese countries are Like or
going through at the currenttime and why they felt it was
important that this film was themovie that they wanted To
represent their, their country,at the Oscars.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
So yeah, I think it's interesting.
You say that because my degreeis in history.
I was a history major and oneof my concentrations was film
and historical kind of nothistorical film but film that
are filmed in certain times,frames and how you can view what
the world view was throughwatching a movie from a certain
(50:15):
period of time.
So you know, if you watch amovie from the thirties and you
see, you, you, you, you outsidethe plot and whatever the
movie's about, you can see theworld was under a depression and
you can kind of get a gist ofthat from what was selected and
from what you're seeing with theforeign films and what these
countries want to represent thebest of this country.
It's interesting to see it fromthat perspective and I think it
(50:39):
adds what you're doing, addssomething to the enjoyment of
the experience where you'rereally kind of you're not only
looking at the film for what thefilm is but you're looking at
it from the cultural aspect ofit.
I think that's awesome,inspiring, you know well, it's
very cool.
Speaker 3 (50:57):
I mean this soup, it's uh, you know, there's no
superheroes and there are nosequels uh, which is like yay,
but like, uh, for instance, uh,instance, charlie, a couple
weeks ago I saw a movie fromBurkina Faso, a Woogadoogoo, a
Woogadoogoo, the capital.
And you're like, how good coulda movie from Burkina Faso or
(51:21):
Lesotho or Uganda, you know, howgood could these movies be?
Answer amazing, like themajority of these films are so
much better than any of thegarbage that's been released in
American cinemas that it's likeI learned so much about
(51:44):
perspective the world, aboutperspective the world.
I can get out of this sort ofyour ethnocentric sort of
viewpoint and really embracehumanity as a whole.
Because when you see thesestories, these are just human
stories of people just trying tosurvive and get by Every
country.
(52:04):
It's the same for every country.
There are universal things thatgo throughout all countries and
you can see them in thesemovies and they're really,
they're beautiful.
I just really think that theymean more, because they're such
honest and important depictionsof, you know under, of cultures
(52:28):
that really just don't get a lotof representation.
They're really underrepresented, especially if you talk about
Africa, southeast Asia, you know, for them to get a chance to
show that like no, this isliterally what we're about and
you know we're impressive, youknow we're our own thing, but
we're modern and we're we.
You know we're our own thing,but we're modern and we're,
(52:49):
we're.
We can do it just as good asyou, uh, and that's that's.
I find that inspiring, uh, andit's one of the reasons why, uh,
you know, I well, I watched twoforeign films today.
Can you imagine one that was sobrutal that, by the way, that,
like if I were to write a listdown of what happens to our
(53:11):
protagonist, who's an11-year-old boy this is
post-World War II.
This is World War II CzechRepublic.
Oh, you wouldn't be able tobelieve it.
People just walked out of thismovie en masse because it was
just, but not me, not good oldsam, because his obsessive
(53:34):
nature doesn't allow him to justskip movies and stuff.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
I had to skip certain scenes because, nope uh,
trigger warning every possiblething you could ever like think
of yeah, I think I would kind ofskip that for the trauma I
don't I, I you know, I have myown trauma.
I don't need to bathe myself inthat.
Speaker 3 (53:57):
but yeah, I know, in that relationship I do find it
important to uh recognize that.
You know the trauma once againanother universal theme and
sadness and the brutality thatwas the 20th century.
(54:19):
There's a lot of darkness.
There's not a lot of fun stuffgoing on, say in the last 125
years.
So I like that movies canreflect that.
And don't get me wrong, I loveand some of these are really
funny, like thailand's entry forthis year is literally called
(54:40):
how to make millions beforegrandma dies it's one of my
favorite movies of the year umso yeah, uh, you range, it's got
the whole gamut, uh, from thesad as you can possibly imagine
to just hilariously goofy, tolike horror movie, and you get
to see just how these, these,all these different cultures
(55:02):
operate.
Speaker 1 (55:03):
I'm just always going to be eternally fascinated by
it, uh, and so yeah can youimagine if more people took time
just to open their world viewand just like looked at how
other countries lived or mademovies or anything, and just
open their eyes to culture, howmuch of a better world Well
(55:27):
where we are would be?
I mean, I just I honestly thinkpeople, if people just open
their eyes to see that the worldis not as big as you think it
is, it's kind of you know, we'reall in this kind of together
and I applaud you for doing that, sam, and I just wish more
people were conscientious towant to do that and I think it
would open eyes and maybe peoplenot be so in their place.
Speaker 3 (55:51):
That's what I'm going to try to do is I'm trying to,
uh, I'm gonna put this onlineand, uh, I've got a couple of
graphics I love that it's gonnabe fun, uh, but yeah, it's just
trying to try to get people toto engage more in that type of
thing, um, and yeah it's, yeah,it's right.
There you go.
Speaker 1 (56:09):
Cool, speaking of which you have a website sam
right, there you go, cool,speaking of which, you have a
website, sam right, can you youwant to bear with us it?
Speaker 3 (56:17):
has not been used in a bit.
The last thing I did was a top10 movies to watch before we all
went to London in October, so Ihave to get back into it A
little bit of a rut, but like,I've got all the ideas uh, and
(56:38):
I've been mostly focused on this, this foreign film thing.
So, uh, uh, yeah, and Charlieknows me, uh, when I, when I
start something, I don't finishit, uh, uh me.
Speaker 1 (56:58):
I don't finish it.
Uh well, just for our listeners, you, you guys.
Charlie and his friend sam andall their buddies went to a
bachelor party in london andjust hit it off.
Went to soccer games.
We talked about it a while ago,but yeah uh, no, yeah, that was
.
Speaker 3 (57:08):
I'd never been to europe before oh wow, that's
awesome, which is crazy becauseof like, of my obsession with
like, european history, like,but the flight over is crazy I
would be happy as a you know,happy as a clam to uh, to just
hang out there for months on end, but uh, I've never been able
(57:30):
to do it.
I was going to study abroad,but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (57:35):
You guys went to a pub, of course, right?
Speaker 3 (57:37):
Yes, you had to do that.
Speaker 1 (57:40):
I know you went to the soccer game because I was
jealous Charlie was texting methe pictures.
Speaker 3 (57:45):
We'll just say that Charlie made sure that Sam
didn't die the first time we gotthere.
That's true.
Speaker 1 (57:55):
That's true may have been over served and charlie
charlie made it across travelingand all that real quick, off,
off off a movie topic.
Real quick, sam, since the lasttime you we had you on the show
it it was right before I filmedTrivial Pursuit.
(58:16):
I'm going to guess you watchedthe episode and you probably
knew every single answer that Ididn't know.
Speaker 3 (58:24):
I think I remember texting Charlie yeah, Sam did
very well.
Yeah, no, yeah, I was fine, mynumber was.
Yeah was.
It would have been good enough,but um, yeah I was.
I was impressed by.
Well, you got hooked up hard uh, really, really big with the
(58:47):
mess question oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 (58:48):
With the derrick cheater yeah, yeah, the cheater
question, right, yeah, yeah.
With Derek Jeter yeah yeah, Iknow the Jeter question, right,
yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (58:53):
That was a huge.
And then the guy who was soangry that he lost to you, by
the way.
Speaker 1 (59:00):
Oh, he was not.
He was a nice.
He's really the sweetest,nicest guy but he was not happy.
I know Rich.
Speaker 3 (59:07):
Because he blew that lead man.
It was the foggy bottom one.
Speaker 1 (59:13):
Yes, I, um, it was the.
Was the, the, the foggy bottomone?
Yes, I knew that one.
Speaker 3 (59:15):
By the way, I didn't know that I'm like, I'm like,
and suzy said I'm like.
Oh my god, tim just won.
Speaker 1 (59:21):
I literally, when I'm hearing him say it, I'm like,
oh my god, he's wrong.
You know you're internalizing.
I I was like, oh yeah, I mean,I was like, oh no, it's
washington right so it wasexciting to see uh, you know you
, you technically win the game.
Speaker 3 (59:40):
You know technically, yeah, right, by default by
default, but yes uh listen, youknow I I was already.
Speaker 1 (59:52):
You know, I'll tell you real quick and not to rehash
the whole thing, but going inafter the first round, that
buzzer, I just could not get itfrom anything and the questions
I got right, you know, I mean Iknew seattle and I got, you know
, so many other ones.
It's because they didn't knowit.
You know, he even the beyoncequestion I knew and she, I mean
(01:00:13):
the other, the other contestantoutbuzzed me.
I was terrible at the buzzer.
So going into the second roundI was already at a handicap.
So that was, yeah, I had to askyou because, you know, right
before, basically I was gettingready to film the show when we
did our last episode.
Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
Right, exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
And I, you know to that point, don't be a stranger,
come on on, you're alwayswelcome anytime.
Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
I'm happy to happy to do it, uh, I was jealous you
were on.
Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Uh, I got a little trivial pursuit I think you know
we're gonna get sam on a show.
I, I think jeopardy trivialpursuit.
Uh, one of those shows, buddy,we gotta get you on because man
you would collect that moneydude you know your shit.
Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
Yes, and I need it more than ever.
Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
So let's do it all right, then let's you know,
charlie and I talk all the timeI will definitely pass along
anything I I get oh, absolutely,and uh, you know, thanks for
having me and uh of course lovetalking about the oscars.
Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
I don't really get to do this much, uh I appreciate
it yeah and and just a reminder.
Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
He did see all of them.
He did see all the best picturenoms yeah, which which is a
feat in itself.
Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
Uh, again one more time.
What's your website, sam?
Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
I want to make sure we get that out there.
Yeah, yeah, no worries, Iliterally have to look it up
because, uh, it's movies withprofessor frank, it's.
You can literally just go.
Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
Uh s frank 77 we're gonna put a link in this in this
podcast yeah, no worries.
Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
Uh, yeah, it just movies with Professor Frank.
I'm going to have far morepostings coming out.
I've got a top 10 coming outfor 2024.
I had to wait because I wantedto see everything, and now I
finally have.
I've seen just an absolutelyfilthy amount of movies that
came out last year.
Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
I'm going to ask you a favor and I know Charlie will
be on board with us too will youcome back on for our summer
movie preview special?
I'd love to hear yourperspective on the movies coming
out.
Awesome, I love it, love it.
We're, we're gonna talk, andyou know, coming up in a couple
months, I mean, believe it ornot, I mean it's march already.
The summer is almost here.
Um, we'll talk summer movies,definitely, definitely.
Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
Yeah, electric Slate coming out in a couple weeks,
anything else big?
Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
You got Electric State, you got Superman.
There's some interesting horrorflicks coming out, which is
Charlie will love to go see.
Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
Our buddy Mike is in Superman.
Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
Oh is he, he's in Extra Mickey 17.
Oh is he, he's an extra Mickey17.
Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
Oh right, mickey, 17.
Yeah, we got Bong Joon-ho'sfirst movie since Parasite.
I think I'm going to like thata lot, just because, great
director, great actor, robertPattinson is maybe the best
actor working today, if you askme.
Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
Twilight.
Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
Yeah, obviously you have to do.
That's crazy because KristenStewart and him they're both so
insanely talented, so good.
Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
Yeah, our buddy, real quick.
Our buddy Mike.
You know, when you watch thetrailer for the Superman film
and there's this girl thatSuperman rescues a blonde girl
he plays her father.
Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
The bomb's about to explode and he covers her up.
Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
He plays her father.
Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
Very interesting.
Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
They don't show Mike in the trailer, but he basically
went on to be an extra and theyupgraded his extra-ness.
Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
That scene from the trailer.
She runs into his arms after.
So we didn't see it in thetrailer, but when that scene
happens you'll notice them.
Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
Let me throw a real quick, late, early, early 2026
Oscar note.
Okay, yes, note the name.
He's won a lot of awards JeremyAllen White.
Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
Yeah, of course, oh the bear, we love him, Jeremy.
Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
He is portraying the boss himself, bruce Springsteen
next year.
Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
Oh, that's right.
Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
Yeah, he looks fairly unbelievable, so he's going to
get a run for his money.
I'm telling you, he looksfairly unbelievable.
He's going to get a run for hismoney.
Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
That's music to my ears.
Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
I love Bruce Springsteen and we love the bear
, of course.
He's a great actor.
Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
That's just a little throwout.
Love it.
Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
We're going to see you next, sam, on our movie
special.
Thank you for joining us.
Absolutely, this has been ARound of Aces.
The pop culture and sportspodcast.
Oscar preview special withspecial guests the professor.
Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
Sam Frank.
Sammy Frank.
Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
And I'm Tim Sternberg .
See you next week.
Everybody Happy Oscar watching.
Bye.
And I'm tim sternberg, see younext week.
Everybody happy oscar watching,bye.
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