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Can we do that?
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She said yeah, I don't know.
Well, I don't, I don't know.
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We're gonna come in clear.
We've got more emojis to use.
We've got more things that wecan bring to the table here.
We're gonna have to figure out away to video these things
though, because that would bemore fun.
You could catch our laughter.
We're gonna figure out, have tofigure out next.
That's what we need to figureout next.
We've talked about it, how toget these things on YouTube or
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how to upload'em to Facebook,something like that where we can
have video and it's so crisp.
I could read that stack of mailthat's over your left shoulder.
Mine.
Where is it?
Your right shoulder?
Mine, Corbin's Corbin.
Corbin has a stack of mail.
Do you see that stack of mailover there?
Yeah.
So why are you looking at myjunk drawer?
You've got a, you've got a dangclothes hung up behind you.
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But wait closet.
But this isn't my room.
This is my room.
Wait, there's more one.
Either.
There's more, but wait, there'smore.
There's a button that sayslivestream.
What?
Ooh, wait.
Where would that go?
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,wait, wait, wait.
It says, it says live onFacebook.
Live to YouTube.
Live to Twitch.
I don't know what Twitch is.
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I've got a Twitch.
Do you have a twitch?
I've got a Twitch.
My you.
Only my tch.
You get a twitch?
Yeah.
When you've been spraying Toomuch Roundup.
I gotta tell y'all a story.
So.
What have y'all been?
I mean, I'll just start it byasking, what have y'all been
watching on TV lately?
Ooh, we're got good one.
We're in the off season forsports and stuff.
No, not off season.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
WNBA, I mean, and they're welland CA's hurt.
Ban Women.
Caitlin's Hurt.
Always hurt.
And they're tired because theyhad to play two games in seven
days.
Yeah, I know.
What're watching?
I know what you're watching.
No you don't.
What?
Yes, I do.
Waterfront.
What?
Waterfront?
No, what's that?
Is it, what's Waterfront?
Oh my God.
On Netflix.
I'm gonna write this down.
Is it a, is it a series?
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It's a series, yeah.
It's a season one waterfront.
Is it like landman or something?
Um, no, but it's really good.
Colin Davis.
Oh, I gotta watch that.
I kept seeing it and Colin Davistexted me the other night.
He is like, you watchingWaterfront?
And I'm like, no.
He's like, it's similar levelthan, it's a similar level to
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um, oh crap.
What's our show, Joe?
Landman.
What?
I underst line Land lions.
Oh, line ness.
Oh, line.
Kinda, kinda, but not, it's notto do with, uh, it's not to do
with the military or nothing.
It's, but it's like, like, dude,every intense, every episode.
You're like, what?
Like cliffhanger type stuff?
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Oh, yeah.
So what I was referring to,there's a new documentary on
Netflix and it's about a cruiseship in 2013.
The potty.
The potty cruise.
The, yeah.
Poop cruise.
The poop cruise.
The poop cruise.
The cruise.
It was a train wrecked poopcruise is what it's called.
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I watched that today.
Wow.
And I, I watched the wholething.
Why would you watch it?
It's freaking awesome.
Bitch.
You didn't watch it?
No.
Why would I?
You know nothing about the redbiohazard bag.
They had the P in bags.
No way.
They had the P in bags and thenthey, they were, did, they
opened the bar.
They're like, this has turned sobad.
Yeah, we're gonna just give youa bar.
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Roasted bar.
And people started throwing thepoo bags at each other.
No.
And then, um, and then wheneverthe, they hooked onto the
tugboats, they like hooked onto'em from the opposite side and
pulled them another way and itjerked a boat to the side.
So then shit just started comingout.
No walls, I swear.
No, I swear.
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It was seeping out of the walls,pouring.
They could hear it.
It was squeeing between theirtoes as they walked.
Why are we talking about this?
Anyways, I say all that to saythis.
At the end there's a disclaimerand it says.
Carnival Triumph wasrefurbished, reheal re whatever
into Carnival Sunrise.
Do y'all remember last summerwhen I went on a cruise?
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Was it the Sunrise?
No, it wasn't.
I was on the pbo.
No way.
I was on the pbo.
And then I was talking to my momtoday and I was telling her
about this, um, documentary andshe was like, what, what ship is
it?
And I was like, oh, it's uh,carnival Triumph.
And she's like, that's the onewe went on when you were a kid.
So I've been on two cruises inmy life.
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The same cruise, same boat, andI've been on the poo boat.
That's the only boat I've everbeen on.
So I have a question.
Yes.
If, hang on, I gotta put my handup.
Where's my hand?
He's gotta raise his hand,right?
Raise my hand.
Okay.
So it made you go to the topleft too.
It made your, yeah, it made youmove.
Oh, you went back.
Okay.
Okay.
So this is a documentary, right?
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Yeah.
So was it all reenacted?
I wish.
No, because so So you're tellingme what happened to the crews?
Like something broke down Right.
And they were just kind of adrift.
Yeah, the boat caught on fire.
Okay.
So this documentary crew justhappened to be there or did they
fly the documentary crew out andleave everybody on there?
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The only footage they had?
No, they would've been cool ifthey, the only real footage they
had was like pictures and videofrom the people on board.
Which I was kind of curious asto how those people's phone
didn't die.
I was wondering that too.
Did these people travel withlittle solar charger?
This is so they probably did,this is how, this was not fake.
They were on a poo boat forseven days and they were just
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crapping in showers and peeingin showers and it was like a
three or four day cruise.
Like it was a three or four daycruise.
And then they were stuck there,slot for seven lines to get food
that by the time you got throughthe line, you either forgot you
were hungry or you were hungryagain.
Right.
And like eat food, were serving.
Oh, they're eating onion andtomato sandwiches on Soggy White
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Bread.
Who is your favorite character?
My favorite character.
I know mine.
It was easy.
Probably Jen.
The, uh, cruise.
The bachelorette cruise.
The cruise director.
Oh, the cruise.
The British accent.
There's something wrong withboth of y'all that y'all
watching.
Stop.
Because that bring it to, wecan't even talk about it.
That brings up a whole nothertopic, but, uh, Ky been kidding.
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It wasn't Ky I, I thought thechef was hilarious.
Oh, I know.
He's like, it smell like, yeah,he was funny.
What?
I am so dis this.
How about that one girl y'allwon this from, from Russia, who
was like, oh, we just have thesex on the boat all the time.
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You're like, oh, it was wild.
You guys are disgusting.
She's like, I was in someoneelse's room when the power went
off.
Like, you nasty.
Oh, it was nasty.
It was incredible.
It.
And it made me wonder like, haveyou ever been to any houses
where there was like generationsof smokers in the house and then
if they get any humidity, thetar starts coming through the
walls?
Oh yeah.
Like I wonder if the carnivalsunrise and humidity, the poo
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comes through the walls.
Corbin.
Yeah.
Or like, um, it's unfor.
I mean, cats have you go to ahouse that's had cats living it
for years, where they didn'ttend to their, I mean, there is
a way to have a cat in the housewhere it doesn't stink.
But there is also a way to havea cat in the house.
House where there's anundeniable odor that you cannot
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get rid of.
You can't get out of it.
You can't, do you ever put that,you put that kills paint on it
and it still doesn't get it.
Once it gets humid, it likecomes out and seeps.
Yeah, that's what I waswondering.
No, Vince, you gotta watch that.
It is hilarious.
I'm not watching it.
Oh, you would?
It's in her, it's 55 minuteslong.
I, I can guarantee you that Amyhas watched it.
She, I, that must have just cameout because I just saw it.
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It did.
I've seen it for about a week.
It's hilarious.
No, I, I watched it like twodays ago, so it ain't been that
long.
Another thing, I still followTiger King on Instagram.
I still recommend it.
It's still pretty entertaining.
I'm not gonna lie to you guys.
I still, I still, I, I wouldlike to highly recommend that.
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Still pretty funny.
Even, even these five yearslater.
Still pretty entertaining stuff.
Is he still in the clink or ishe like Yeah, he's in the clink
in Oklahoma.
He's in the clink.
He's really trying to get, uh,pardoned by President Trump.
He still really hates Jeff andLauren Lowe, um, still hates
that B Carol Baskin.
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I don't know.
Hey, by the time this episodeairs.
Trump might have traded Elon forTiger King.
He might have.
He might have.
They're at war right now.
Yeah.
It's best I, while I recommendfollowing Joe exotic, I don't
know that I really recommendfollowing Elon and Trump's beef
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on Twitter because it'sexhausting.
No.
The only thing in the reels landthat's worth anything are the
baby AI generated Joe Rogan,Theo conversation.
Oh my God.
Oh, oh God.
How do they do that?
I don't know.
It's hilarious.
Those babies look exactly likethose people.
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It's unbelievable.
Speaking of, speaking of ai,nevermind.
Nevermind.
Oh my goodness, nevermind.
Oh, that is exactly right.
So what are we gonna talk about?
We, um.
Talk about, I guess we have toacknowledge, we have to
acknowledge that there's stillrumblings out there with the ANS
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association and all the methanestuff.
Is this, is this where I get tosay dollar meth, dollar meth?
Say only if you're an idiot.
Are you talking about dollarmeth, idiot.
So, um, I guess that there's notas much that needs to be said on
this topic.
Um, because I think the three ofus have collectively talked
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about it enough to where anyfurther conversation we have
with anyone, including the threeof us, we wanna be moving in a
positive direction.
We wanna move, be moving towardsa common goal.
Um, and I think the best way todo that's to get as many heads
together, um, in the same place.
We need to find a strong voice.
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Ultimately, there's gonna haveto be a number of leaders,
right?
Somebody's gonna have to be aspokesperson.
We're gonna have to figure out away to.
Get everybody on the same pagebecause right now what's
happening is there's thousandsand thousands of people that
want to make a change.
They want to do somethingdifferent.
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But the unfortunate reality isthat 3000 people going on their
own and doing things is not asstrong as say, 200 people who
are on the same page.
You can get a lot more done as acollective than you can by
yourself.
So ultimately we're gonna haveto band together if we wanna see
anything, uh, come from this.
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I would add too, uh, I know thisis so hard, guys, because we've
taped this like three times,right?
And we've done it on Yeah.
It's hard.
So I don't know what I said onrecord and what I haven't, and,
but I do know that we've alwaysbeen bantering about the three
of us through our, our textchats, through our personal
conversations and everything.
If somebody chooses to be quietabout this issue, that's their
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option.
If somebody wants to beoutspoken, that's their option.
If somebody wants to be a giantjerk, you know what, that's kind
of their option.
They, nobody asked for thisproblem to be laid on their
footstep, but now we are at apoint where I think you've been
through the stages of grief orwhatever you want to call it,
the stages of disappointment.
I do think the best thing forall of us as Angus breeders is
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to try to figure out what it isthat we want and let's move
towards that.
Absolutely.
Um, is that fair, Vince?
Yes, absolutely.
So 100%.
So I'm, we talked about it asthe dead horse and, and we don't
want that, I don't want thatmessage to get lost because
there's a lot of real good, uh,insightfulness that we found out
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of breeders.
There's a lot of cool peoplewe've been interested in that
finally got at their breakingpoint that you're finally
hearing from'em.
And then there's people that Idon't know if they even know
what they want.
And that's okay too.
But hopefully if you'relistening, um, to us, really
think about those core solutionsthat you would have.
Vince mentioned some, Vincementioned delegate voting.
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Um, I've heard people sayregional, like I don't wanna
call'em junior board members,but increasing the, the swath of
influence for people forsubcommittees.
I've seen live stream of boardmeetings besides the actual
executive committee.
And if run properly withRobert's rules of order and the
Brown Act and all that stuff,you would come out of executive
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committee with arecommendations.
So, so, you know, we aren'tgetting members involved on
staff issues or protectedinformation or private studies,
but generally speaking.
I've heard, uh, several peoplesay this, we aren't, we aren't
building rockets here.
We got a breed registry.
Absolutely.
So, Vince, you keep shiftingaround and it's making me really
nervous.
Is my audio skipping it out orare we doing okay?
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Just keep talking.
My battery's getting low andit's plugged in, so I just need
to make sure I, I'm gonna plugit in the wall.
Yeah, I think those are illegalnow'cause the big beautiful
bill.
Anyway, there was one more thingI wanted to mention.
Yeah, go.
How about every single person inthe American Angus Association
gets a vote?
Um, on, on sensitive topics, oneverything.
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I know we use the delegatesystem.
The delegate system is kind ofdesigned for 1952.
We're in 2025.
It's a heck of a lot easier foreach and every one of us to log
onto the internet and vote.
And if then people still don'tvote, then you know what?
You didn't vote.
So, uh, we say all that to say,let's get together, right?
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Let's figure this out.
Um, I know we've each been inconversations with each other
and with other people on how wecan do that, so let's do it.
And I guess I'm hopeful for onething, I do think there've been
piles of letters.
There have been piles of socialmedia.
There've been piles ofmultimedia about this issue.
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I am expecting a response, likea one pager from the board, from
the CEO, something that says, wehear you membership.
These are the things we'reworking on to help connect with
you and your concerns.
Um, I'm really, I've beenexpecting that.
Um, I, I talked to you guys bythe time this airs.
Maybe I will have got thatinformation.
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Um, still have tried to reachout to, uh, a board member and I
haven't left a message.
They don't have my phone numbersaved in their phone.
There's no expectation that, uh,on an unmarked number, somebody
would just call me back if theydidn't leave a message.
I get that.
Um, but it's just being busy andI'm sure those folks are too.
So we grant Grace.
Um, but I think now it's time.
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Folks can still stand on theirmoral authority here, but let's
get some positive change.
I'm, I'm boys.
I'm not interested in burningthis sucker down.
I'm a part owner and there's alot of equity tied up inside
this black hide and four hoovesand rumen.
Um, and it belongs to me and itbelongs to my family.
So, uh, and it belongs to you.
Belongs to me.
What brought all this on?
What was it, Vince?
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What did you call it?
Dollar meth.
Did you say?
Dollar Meth Boy.
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one, two at a time.
Isn't this ethicallyquestionable?
Son, if you can't monetize amethane cloud, the size of
Texas, do you even believe incapitalism?
Because, Ooh, hold on just asecond.
So forget gold, forget crypto.
Go with the market that's fullof hot air.
Literally dollar meth, becausethe future blows.
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Disclaimer, warning, dollar methis not a regular regulated
investment.
Side effects include moralambiguity, greenhouse guilt, and
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Consult your exorcist oreconomists before investing ex
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Consult your exorcist.
Do you know that's the first oneof those you've done in like
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three months?
That didn't say ex existentialin it?
Ex existential.
Ex existential.
And I said it right then.
Existential.
That's a hard word to say.
You could have worked it inexistential flatulence.
I wanted to.
I wanted to work in winky dink.
It was an existential crisisthat we've had to deal with.
Dollar meth though, so.
I don't know.
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We have a couple little topics,but I'm interested, you know,
Ian and Sally Beavers from EagleHawk down in Australia, have
been on their whirlwind tourand, and it's not my job to just
sit here and pump those peopleup.
They're wonderful people.
Very nice.
They came and visited all threeof us, but they're touring the
states right now.
And so we have a social media,well, what is it, A SNAP group
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guys?
Yep.
We got a snap group we're onwith them and a couple other
people.
They call it Angus mates and youknow, they send us stuff here
and there and it's, it's a fungroup, but watching the weather
and stuff, it got me thinking.
I mean, has your guys' weatherbeen up and down and all around
and weird or what have you beendealing with?
Rain.
Rain and more rain.
I just, I just got off the phonewith Robert before this press
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play and he said they had Bobby,he said they've had 22 inches
this month.
This month we had, that's whathe said.
He said his corn is justsprouting right now.
Is that what he, is that how hesaid it?
Uh, I can't do justice to how hesaid it.
We've had more rain than that.
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I'll say that.
And I bet Vince has too.
Um, really in Oklahoma thismonth.
Oh, it's been, well not thismonth.
'cause it's July 1st.
I can't, it won't let me in themonth of June.
It was wild.
It was a wild month.
We've had, we had multiple fiveinch rains.
I mean, um, whereas the lastthree years we dealt with a
crippling drought that put us ina very tough spot.
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Now it's quite the opposite.
We'll get some hay laid down andit'll rain or, um, a lot of
places it's too wet to even bailand the, and the haze behind, to
tell you the truth, I, for one,would take the too much rain
over the alternative because,um, I mean, I've had to sell
over a hundred cows over thelast three years because of the
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drought and I don't wanna dothat.
So, um.
But it's, it's definitely like alesser of two evils.
It's not like it's great, butit, it is what it is.
Since January 1st, it won't tellme last month, but since January
1st, we're sitting at 46.78inches.
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What, what's y'all's annualrainfall?
I dunno.
Somewhere around that.
Like we've had our annualrainfall in six months.
Have you had like tornadoes too,or just rain?
Rain, rain.
Um, early on we had sometornadoes, but, um, mainly just
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rain.
I gotta pay more money to getthat data.
It's like Uhuh at the top itsays 12 hours, 24 hours.
Y Yeah, but I go to MTD, whichis month to date.
And then YTD that says zero, butMTD says zero.
That's'cause it's the first.
Okay, well I wanna look at lastmonth homie.
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Go.
YTD.
It won't let you Yeah, exactly.
You gotta upgrade.
The issue is like up, up untillately, lately we've had normal
rains, but man, up until latelyit is like major storms and
flooding.
Like we were getting four inchesin an hour the other day.
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I think we got an inch and ahalf in 30 minutes.
Like it was, it's just beencrazy.
We got three inches last night.
No kidding.
And we didn't, and we didn'teven have a chance of rain.
Oh my, the other day we had fourhundreds for a chance of rain
and we got a uh, inch and threequarters and you know what's
crazy?
Did that put you on your, wheredid that put you on your
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knockdown?
Hey Vince, I remember last Italked to you about it.
It was not a good, goodsituation.
So it was supposed to rainyesterday and it didn't.
So then it was a chance of raintoday.
So I told Nate, uh, we went andgot haircuts at lunch.
Oh, did you notice my haircut?
Yeah.
What'd they charge you for that?
Too much.
I don't understand too much.
I don't understand too.
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Vince, explain this to me andI'm not being a butthole and
can't you shave your own head?
Um, yeah, that's weird.
Do your, does your hand not goabove your ear?
I don't know about you guys, butI cannot see the back of my
head.
I would've to have like 18, justgo over it, it a bunch of times,
18 mayors or Amy could do it,but that's another story.
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Anyway, after, after, after thehaircuts, I sent Nate up to
check his hay and I told him ifhe thought it would roll, let's
get her done.
So he rolled it today, about 30acres that he had down.
He's got a little bit more like1520 acres to do tomorrow.
And then we're moving back here.
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It's supposed to be clear therest of the week, hopefully I
can get all the hay baled andall the oats cut and I don't
know if I can save this straw ornot.
I've got 50 acres of straw windroad and it's had five inches of
rain on it.
I don't know.
We're gonna Good thing it's juststraw.
Huh?
We're gonna te it tomorrow.
Yeah, but I need it.
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We're gonna te it tomorrow.
Okay.
Explain the ted and what's ateter?
Uh, it's, it just scatters hay.
It flushes.
I had a, I had a, a teter.
A teter.
It's a man you don't want toknow.
Teter did something really bad.
It scatters it, it's a verb.
Really?
Teter it scatters it out andlets it dry and fluffs it up.
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Makes it dry quicker.
So you, would you tet it andthen put it in a windrow to ba
it?
Yes.
Okay.
Tell it to get it dry.
You don't have to, but it justmakes things quicker.
And then windrow it and ba it.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ted, it, so this, this hay thatyou're worried about, will you
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guys pull like a moisture teston it before you put it in a
barn or something?
So does this, this hay will notgo in a barn because it was
already marginal when we cut it,and then it's just had five
inches of rain on it.
So it's basically straw.
I'll take it.
It's, it beats a snowball.
Yeah.
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Hmm.
It beats a, it beats eating mud.
Yeah.
It, it'll beat fun.
How do your cows look, Vince?
Oh, man.
Don't, let's not, I'm not happy.
Let's not talk about cows.
I don't wanna talk about cows.
I'm not happy on about how mycows look.
And why?
Is it because the grass is toowashy?
I think it's too washy.
That's, that's what I talked tomy nutritionist yesterday and I.
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That's basically what we came upwith.
Even the calves at side of thecows, I was telling him that
they look crappy and he said,well, the grass is so washy,
it's affecting their milk.
I never even thought about that.
Yeah.
I got one group that I have notmoved because it the place I
have to, there's two ways I canmove them.
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Both places are like kind of inmudhole and I'm just trying not
to make a mess, to be honestwith you.
So the grass is short in thereand I really, really am starting
to think about, okay, I hope itdoesn't rain for a couple days.
'cause I really wanna move thosecows to some fresh grass because
they're starting to, I mean,their first calf heifers.
And I like moving those aroundmore than anything.
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Keeping them on fresh grass,keeping them as fat as I can.
And so, yeah.
It's different problems foreverywhere though, right?
Yeah.
Different problems for everyperson.
I've never been so disappointedin my cow herd riding around,
looking at'em ever.
And it has to be because of theweather has to be, I think, uh,
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yeah.
Nevermind.
What I was gonna, I was gonnatell you.
The real truth is probably, um,the, my bull selection.
You're not, you're not selectingfor the right traits.
I'm sure I'm not and that'sokay.
Oh, I'm working on it.
I'm gonna pivot, I'm pivoting.
It starts with, I'm fixing topivot efficiency, my friend.
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It starts with efficiency.
I'm fixing to pivot and startdoing, uh, looking at different,
oh, you're probably signed oneof those NDAs I hear about, and
you probably are on the earlyfront end.
You got the chambers already.
They're gonna put you in achamber after you go to the
smokehouse.
They're coming in tomorrow.
How are your, how big are yourdividend checks, Vince?
They're big Miss.
Amy's gonna like them.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, that's a fun topic.
I mean, I.
We, we talked about, we need totalk about our whys and how do
we give our listeners somethinga little bit more upbeat after
these, what we're going on likefive weeks of this Angus
chatter.
I, I'm sick of it.
I'm ready to do something.
It's, it's exhausting, it'sdemoralizing.
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So how do we stay the coursewhen things get tough?
Because I talked to Vince in thelast, outside of the Angus deal,
what, 45 days ago?
And you were just downtrodden.
I had an instance last nightwhere I was going off the deep
end, um, Corbin, I feel likeyou're probably the most
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level-headed right now, all ofus.
But you've got little kids rightnow and a lot of excitement.
So it makes it easy.
It makes it easy.
You keep your focus in the rightspots.
So the, the way I stay thecourse when things get rough is
I kind of dedicate more time tofamily.
I start thinking about otherthings.
Luckily, right now is not a verycritical time for cows.
I'm not having to.
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Not having to do much for them.
They're in a lot of ways,self-sufficient.
They're turned out, I don't haveto put them at the forefront of
everything.
And so, um, it's a tumultuoustime for sure, but I think it's
important to have other thingsin life.
You know what I mean?
You have to have otherinterests, other hobbies, other
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people, um, which that can bedifficult.
But Have you started playinggolf yet?
I want to really bad.
I tried to hit a golf ball theother day, um, and it hurt so
bad.
Like it was, it's literally likebecause your wrist, my wrist.
Yeah.
But I will tell you guys, I gota steroid shot in my wrist three
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weeks ago and I can full onthrow a baseball now.
So I got a dog that likes to goget a baseball.
I've been chunking that sucker.
I'm trying to work it.
I'm trying to work it as much asI can.
And if I work it as much as Ican, I feel like that's gonna be
good for golf too.
So I'm trying to get back togolf.
What, what was that show wherethat kid broke his arm and, and
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he had an elastic and he wentand played in the big leagues
when he was a kid?
Rookie.
You remember that?
Joe?
Rookie?
Was it like rookie of the year?
Rookie.
Rookie.
Yeah.
Rookie of the rookie.
The thought it was rookie.
Rookie of the year.
Yeah.
What about that guy that hadthat face and then he falls and
breaks it again and then hecan't throw hard anymore, right?
Yeah.
What about that Oscar pin Taurusor whatever?
That guy that had the Tink Tinklegs.
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What?
You don't what what?
He had those, he had those metallegs that looked like robot
legs.
You know what I'm talking about?
Where they're like, dink dinkdink dink dink.
No, and they kind of bouncearound on him.
He played baseball?
No, he killed his wife.
What?
Oh, how did we go?
How did we Google, how did wesegue that?
Google it.
He was like in the Olympics andshit.
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You're terrible at segueing.
No, he was in like the Olympicsand stuff.
And then.
It came out, it was like, thisguy's a scumbag and we all loved
him.
But how that happens all thetime, same thing happen to Lance
Armstrong.
Yeah, I think it's, it's justhuman nature to like look for
perfection in people.
And that goes to my always myfaith stuff is like the fallen
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nature of man stuff and idolatryand everything.
And I guess my faith tries, Itry to keep myself in the center
of the road using faith, but Idon't know.
I mean, I didn't, it's funny, Iwrote down this topic about
staying the course when thingsget tough.
Um, this is a hard businessbecause it's such a long game
and I think that's why thisparticular issue with Angus
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sparked so many nerves with somany people because being a
cattle breeder cuts a lot deeperthan a lot of different
vocations because honestly, I.
Most people I know if we devotedthis many hours to any other
vocation, you'd be very, verywealthy.
You'd have plenty of time off.
Um, and so why do we give thatup?
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We give that up for this kind ofquasi spiritual journey, um,
which I think can actually gothe other way.
And you can get into a lot ofweird kind of idolatry stuff,
which some people get baitedinto.
But if you use it as a tool, um,to help you in, in your journey,
I think that, and to see God andhis creation, then it's good.
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And that's what I've tried todo.
But I'm not gonna lie and sayeverything's perfect.
I mean, it's like I told youguys last night.
I got a call from, uh, well, Isent a guy a text that runs the
feedlot where our bulls were,and I said, Hey, did you order
this special vaccine foranaplasmosis tick?
Um, because we have it out here.
There's a killed vaccine andit's an experimental vaccine and
it's short on production.
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And he said, no, I was going to,you know, what are you thinking
on the booster?
'cause everybody out here,vaccinates and boosters for it,
whatever.
And, um.
Then he ends up calling me andhe is like, Hey, I got five
crippled crippled bulls that gothurt.
They got sick, put'em back in,put'em in the health pen, put'em
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back in, and the bulls rode'emto death.
You know, we got, we, we gotproblems and your other bulls
are just not cranking like I washoping they would.
And so I, I of course was in apretty rough place last night.
So I called Wyatt because heactually sleeps only an hour and
a half from the feedlot.
And I said, Hey, switch gears.
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Just go down to the feedlot, getthose bulls that are hurt, bring
them home and we'll rehab themhere.
We'll probably, you know, afterwe got'em here, we decided we're
gonna make steers outta all ofthem.
Um, bring them here and thengive me a full report on the
deal.
Well, he went down, he is like,no, if you take out the hurt
ones and then you take out ourprivate treaty bulls that are
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all later born deals that arefor a completely different deal.
And you look at the core ofwhat's selling.
We're right on track.
Bulls look as good as they everhave.
You're just fine.
Everybody needs to relax.
But I think as these cattle getworth more and more money, and
then we're involved in socialmedia, we're involved, uh, as
some sort of professionals onthis broadcast thing.
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The expectation weights in thisbackpack that we carry gets
heavier and heavier and heavier.
And so much of it is soself-inflicted that sometimes,
I'm not gonna lie, guys, if itwasn't, that's why I love this
new podcast that we have, thethree of us, because the second,
it's not just fun to visit withmy friends, I'm going to leave
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you guys.
No, I mean, and I hope you wouldtreat us the same or me the
same.
Say It ain't so.
It's gotta be fun, man.
We gotta get back to makingAngus breeding fun again.
Well, it was fun until Angus didnot such a nice thing.
I, I don't, I I think we battlethese things.
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Anyways, though, like there'salways gonna be something, you
know what I mean?
There's always gonna besomething trying to derail you
and you have a personal choiceto be like, well, am I gonna sit
and pout about this?
Or am I gonna one, be a causefor change and two, put my head
down and make my cattle betterand stay the course.
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You have a choice.
That's what I was fixing to say.
Like 90% of the crap that wedeal with on a daily basis could
drag you down.
It's gonna be your choice to letit.
Most things, when you take abeat, you sleep on it and you
wake up the next day are notquite as bad as you think they
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are in the moment.
While your bull deal could havebeen very detrimental, could
have been worse, took a minute,ran up there, looked at'em, and
it's, it's fine.
It's gonna be fine.
Guess what?
You can't change it.
Nothing to do about it.
You have what, 90 days to change'em.
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So it's, you got plenty of timeto fix'em.
So even if they're behind orwere behind, or they maybe they
just thought they were behind,you still got plenty of time to
fix it.
The only thing that, you know,look, your family's healthy,
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everything's in good shape.
These other stuff, it's, it'sall, it's all minority little
things to worry about that willeat you up if you let it.
Well, doesn't it make you feelkind of selfish when you see.
Like Randall's deal, and I don'twant to draw too much attention,
but you see Randall's deal andit's kinda like, whoa.
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Yeah, that could have beenreally bad.
Yeah, that could have beenreally, really bad.
Or how about when you see, howabout when you see a family
going through a straight uptragedy, something you hate?
Absolutely.
Something where a familymember's lost a family member.
A member is sick.
You see those sorts of things.
Oh, it puts it into perspectivefor me.
Hey, last night I was gonna runto town and grab a steak, throw
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it on the grill.
I get almost to town, road'sblocked.
There's a car upside down in theroad, just flattened.
Uh, knew the guy that livedthere.
He was, he was standing in theditch.
He said, that's gonna be blockedfor a while.
You might as well go back and goanother way.
I said, what happened?
He said, the guy was haulingtail and ran off the road and
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hit a culvert at some of hisdriveway.
Flipped upside down.
Boom.
He's dead.
I mean, the whole family.
So, I mean, just like whatyou're saying, like, like that's
a, that's a major thing to haveto deal with.
Well, and I wanna make, I wannapoint at it, but I don't wanna
say it and I hate being thisobscure, but you'll get my
(35:09):
point.
It'll take me way too long toget there.
We have a very, very goodlistener that's dealing with
some farm difficulties in a big,big way in Vince's part of the
world.
And I haven't heard it firsthandfrom them.
So that's why I'm keeping it tomyself.
But we've gotta figure out howto.
Despite what happens atorganizational level stuff with
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AAA or whatever, we've gottasupport each other as breeders,
I think, because the circle'spretty do doggone small.
And I think maybe that's, thatcuts to why some people were
really disappointed as they feltbetrayed by fellow breeders who
were in a position to makedecisions that affected all of
us.
Why are you speeding me up?
(35:51):
Like this guy is such a clownman.
You just beat up Corbin Clown.
Oh man.
Anyway, um, there's all thesefeatures and now, now my phone's
blowing up and I can't figure itout if it's you guys or my dad,
but it's not us.
It's David Fisher.
But anyways, that, to thatlistener, to that listener who's
gonna listen.
Yes, we have heard through thegrapevine that you're having a
(36:13):
rough go and you are absolutelyin our thoughts and prayers and
we do support you.
And if there's any way we canhelp you, um.
Reach out to any of the three ofus and let us know, but this
person has handled it kind ofprivately and, and I would like
to respect that privacy.
But you're right, Vince, andyou're right Corbin, there's,
there's perspective things thatwe need to keep and, but what
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about the cattle piece too?
Bless you.
Bless you.
I hate, thanks for muting.
I hit, I couldn't, couldn't getit quick enough.
But, uh, what about the cattlepiece?
Like, Vince, you're frustratedwith the condition, but do you
have, but it's fine.
It's, it'll be fine.
I just don't want anybody to see'em.
Yeah, but do, do you still, yousee the goodness in them.
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Like that's where I find refugesometimes is just loading the
family in the side by side andgoing for a drive and just
going, yeah, but we still havesomething really special going
on here.
Man, my calves have gonebackwards since weaning and
like, it's just, it's a littlediscouraging.
I don't like, I'm not.
To the point where I'm so, so,so discouraged and I want to go
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jump off the barn or nothing, orsell everything.
It's, it's just, it's just oneof those things like, they're
not where I want them to be orwhere I think they should be or
where they normally are everyyear.
Do you know what I do whenevermy cows are like that, Vince,
and I know that you do too, andI know Joe don't quit looking at
'em.
No, no.
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Yeah, I do do that.
But you said Dooo.
You didn't say Dooo.
You're the dooo guy now.
Oh my gosh.
Now we've gotta find the doooemoji on these reactions.
Um, oh, I bet, sir.
So the thing to do at that timeis obviously you can, you can,
he's looking for it.
You can really take the time andfigure out which cows are
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excelling, excelling, andexcelling in.
Inopportune conditions, maybewhere everything else is not
going.
So s well, you can find thosecows that are, um, that are
doing well, even in not perfecttimes.
Hey, did we say we wanted tohave fun in this episode?
Let's play.
(38:26):
Would you rather?
Do y'all want to?
Oh my God, I forgot all that.
Or do y Wanna play somethingelse?
Something else.
We gotta get.
So, so we talked a little bitabout staying the course, but
we'll do that at the end.
We gotta remember too, this isgonna come out on one of my
favorite days of the year, orclose to it.
The 4th of July.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
The 3rd of July, independenceDay, Corbin, which is.
(38:49):
Course GI Eye.
I know.
And he's a pet peeve of mine.
Are you gonna go down to theGulf of America and, and
celebrate?
Do you see Trump's new hat?
No, it doesn't.
He doesn't wear a MAGA hatanymore.
He wears Gulf of America hat.
No.
Hey.
No way.
He was, he was wearing, theydon't know what the, they're
doing.
He was the other day I saw apicture of Pete Hegseth and him
(39:14):
in the situation room andTrump's sitting there wearing
that big red hat.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
It's, Trump's got a big old headtoo, so it makes it even stick
out worse and all that goofyhair.
Yeah, it's awesome.
Okay, so you wanna play what youwear rather, I'm wanna only do
that at the end.
You wanna do that at the end orwhat's at the be Why don't, or
why don't we, why we, at thebeginning still, why don't we
get our, get some meat to thisthing?
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Do we wanna talk about our why?
I thought we were, I think wejust did.
Are we just gonna, that was it.
What do you wanna talk about?
Go.
Didn't say anything?
Yeah.
People are gonna demand topics.
Didn't They're gonna demandtopics.
Yeah.
I thought we, we were, we had atopic last week.
We were talking about how crappymy cows were.
Surely to God, that is not, Hey,gonna be the freaking topic.
(40:00):
I thought you might be tired oftalking about how terrible your
cows are.
Like, I'm trying to, I'm tryingto advocate for you, Vince.
I'm trying to talk aboutsomething else other than how
terrible your cows are.
I'm trying, okay.
Vince, do you wanna talk aboutyour why?
My what?
What your why?
You said we got put some meat onthis dog.
(40:21):
What am I, wine.
Why do you do this?
Why?
Why do I do?
Well start with, start with whyyou agreed to be on the podcast,
even if it was just kind of anaccident and then an talk about
it, an accident.
Then let's, let's each three saywhy we agreed to why we still do
it, and then the big piece ofwhy is it that we even have
(40:42):
these cows and what are wedoing, what we are doing?
Well, it was an accident that Iwas on a podcast and then, uh,
it became fun and I have funwith you guys.
So we just kept it going and Ijust, I just want to help folks.
If, if there's, you know, likethe guy that's been doing it for
(41:07):
third generation family, like,he's not gonna come here to try
to glean anything to do a betterjob.
Okay.
Um, I want to try to help theguys that are just getting
started that are small, that,that haven't made the mistakes
yet, that if they make themistakes that I made coming
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along, it's probably gonna bevery detrimental to'em.
Um.
I mean, I just want to helpfolks.
That's all.
I, I'll keep'em outta thequicksand and, and falling on
their face and things like that.
And I, and I, I feel like I havebeen able to do that with some
(41:47):
people.
Mm-hmm.
Um, become good friends withsome people and talk to'em on a
daily basis or chat, you know,text with'em or, or whatever.
And, uh, I mean, they're friendsand then if they run into
something, they're like, Hey, Iwanna run something by you.
What do you think about this?
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And it makes me feel good thatI'm able to help'em if, if I'm a
help, sometimes I'm not, I'm notvery helpful, but I just, I just
wanna help folks.
That's all.
I, I don't care about the muchof the rest of it.
I just, I just wanna, if I canhelp you and.
(42:30):
I'll be glad to.
I'll be try.
Be glad to try to Corbin you go.
Um, so ultimately podcast y forme is I always have been able to
reach people through comedy andso, um, I thought of it as a
great opportunity for people toget to see the real me because
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um, a lot of times you don't getto see the person behind the
Facebook profile or see the, orget to know the person behind
the program.
So, um, I just want people to beable to get to know me.
Um, ultimately it turned intomore, it's turned into more of,
uh, sharing my opinions to tryto help people because I've been
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through a lot of crap that youguys are going through too.
But the ultimate decision tostart to get on a podcast was
because there's a lot of crunchyfolks in the cattle business
that don't really, I.
Show much, um, emotion.
They don't really laugh.
And so I wanted to try to getsome laughs out of people and,
and entertain.
I mean, I just, there's plentyof podcasts out there that are,
(43:39):
uh, for lack of a better term,boring.
Um, so I'd like to just reachpeople and be fun and energetic
and hopefully we've gotten backto that, this episode a little
bit.
But, uh, you know, if it'sboring, turn it off.
Exactly.
I think that's a really goodpoint.
You bring that up because Ithink I am the most boring out
(44:02):
of the three of us.
Um, but we've had thisdiscussion around podcasts for
four years where it's like somepeople want, we gotta give them
something, we gotta give themsomething.
I wanna give them a place to gowhere they can just listen
without I.
Any reservation and just have agood time and maybe be
challenged on their thoughtprocess just a little bit.
(44:24):
Or maybe they hear a new way todo things.
Or if, if you're looking for themodified live or killed vaccine
protocol, exact way to dosomething, we're not the guys
for that.
But you know, maybe byestablishing a relationship with
us, we'll text you what we do oryou know, we'll, we'll discuss
(44:44):
that at one point on here.
We have discussed in the pastsome of the things that we do,
but to claim we're experts.
I'm not an expert on anything.
I'm an expert at failing andthen learning from it and
overcoming it, and I'm stillhere.
I'm still here.
And so Vince said, uh, uh, helppeople.
I remember the word I added tothe first podcast we were on.
(45:05):
It was my, it was a word Ichose, which was empower and.
I actually think the three of uswere quite impactful at
empowering people to use theirown cattle at empowering people
to see value of their ownlivestock at empowering people
to say maybe what's 3000 milesaway and looks cool in a fake
photo isn't better than what Ihave at home.
(45:28):
Um, and we talked about thislike three podcasts ago or two
where it was like, okay, maybewe went too far that way and we
need to bring people back tocenter and say, Hey, you know,
but we gotta stay humble too.
And we, and, and I, I feel likeit's always just been
communicating truthfully.
I guess the podcast has beeneasy for me because I've never
(45:48):
had to worry per se about what Isaid because it was always just
honest.
Like, that's the thing.
Yeah.
I never had to be like, gosh,did I say this and make this
person mad?
Or did I, like, did I stayconsistent on this or that?
Like, I.
Uh, we're flawed.
I'm flawed big time, and, and ifI can just reach people where
(46:09):
they're at and people can seethat it ain't all perfect at the
big brewing ranch.
Like we, we have problems.
We have little teeny tinysuccesses all the time, and we
just kinda rinse, lather, repeatall the time.
We just keep doing the samethings and we try to be a little
more efficient and better aboutit each time.
And, um, yeah, I guess that'swhy I do the podcast.
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Now, the cattle breeding piece,I would say is it's a great way
to raise kids, um, just becauseit teaches so much humility.
And, and I think that's also whysome of the quote genetic
improvement tools get on mynerves is I really think cattle
breeding is a real tool.
(46:55):
To help improve our character ashumans in our communities and in
our faith and, and being parentsand all that stuff.
Like, it just helps us be humbleand say, there's only so much
you can control.
Absolutely.
Ultimately, absolutely.
You've set all this up, you putit into motion, you put it in an
environment, and now you gottalet it go.
And if you're humble enough,you'll look at what you have.
(47:18):
You'll keep the good, you'llmove on past the bad.
You'll constantly be redefiningwhat is good and what is bad.
And I don't know, it's just,it's a real awesome, awesome,
beautiful experience andhumility for me.
And I think it's funny becauseunless you get to know only
Bennett and I got thisconversation when he came back
out, he is like, my friends arescared of you.
(47:39):
I'm like, I'm the leastintimidating guy ever.
And I think that the tone of myvoice I've recognized and how I
carry my facial expressions andstuff seems very, uh, confident.
But I've, I've, I've tried towalk in humility most with this
vocation and I hope that I growthere.
And I hope my kids and theirchildren have the opportunity to
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grow up on a chunk of land wherethey can try some things and
fail and become humble and seesome successes and really learn
what's valuable in life.
You know, that's my why.
I didn't get to the, the cattlepart, but I mean.
I just grew up here when I was akid and the, my, my happiest
(48:24):
moment had to be when I camehome one day and Amy said, we're
moving to the farm.
Mm-hmm.
And that was the only reason shewanted to do it is'cause she
knew Nate loved it and shewanted him to grow up here.
And like just watching him growup here, like when I was a kid,
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I grew up here.
It is just been And grow.
And grow.
Yeah.
And grow.
And grow.
It's just been and grow.
And now he's six eight and nowhe's six eight.
But you know that, that's beenthe awesomest part.
Like I wouldn't want anythingelse.
Um, Nope.
So the cows are just a piece ofit.
So I told you all the othernight, wait, Corbin, you had
(49:10):
your hand up.
I did have my hair up.
I just put it down.
I was waiting on y'all to stop.
Um, so the other night I senty'all a text.
Do you remember what the textsaid the other night?
It was at nine o'clock.
Our text thread is eight.
I said thousand texts long.
Man, I'm gonna look, I'm gonnalook.
Don't, how are you gonna, I'mabout to tell you.
I'm about it.
Says I'm ready.
(49:32):
I, I've been ready.
Don't overheat.
I'm gonna tell you.
I'm gonna tell you.
Stop.
Go.
Cor stop.
I'm gonna tell you.
1, 2, 3, go.
Okay.
So the other night I sent y'alla text at nine 15 and I said, I
just decided to wean calves.
Oh, I remember that.
I did not give all the contextto that.
And this is gonna go back to ourfamily playing a part in it and
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how awesome that is.
So at about six o'clock, me andMyla, we decided to go swimming.
We get in the pool, we'reswimming for a couple hours, and
then I said, Hey Myla, I'vegotta go move some cows around.
I think I'm gonna wean a fewcalves.
I've got a.
I've got a couple groups of 15cows that are fall calve.
I don't have as many fall calsanymore.
I was like, I'm gonna go catchthem and we're gonna start, you
know, maybe we will, maybe wewill move them close so we can
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wean'em tomorrow morning orsomething.
Well, the cows happened to beclose to the pen and so we were
on the full wheeler.
I was in my slides and myswimsuit.
Nice.
I Myla was in your slides.
Dude, Milo was in her panties.
I weaned calves.
I ran them through the chute,gave them vaccines and wormed
them and poured'em in my slidesand my, um, swimsuit with no
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shirt on.
How many people do you thinkwould do that?
Not me.
I'm not wearing shorts acrossthe road to, to the farm?
No, I don't wear shorts.
And I actually mean mug Paxtonpretty good for wearing slides
to the pipe store today with me.
Yeah.
Get away from me.
You weirdo.
Yeah.
Well that's kind of odd.
I mean, I got bronze toes andy'all got sock feet.
(51:00):
Yeah.
No, my toes are not somethingI'm proud of, to be honest with
you.
Me either.
You got all over'em.
They need to air out.
They stink.
You probably stink.
You probably have, you bothprobably have socks on right
now, don't you?
I've got socks and boots on.
Socks.
Socks.
I took th goods off for thistaping, but I'm gonna put'em
back on when we're done.
I got the thro goods on stockand boots at nine o'clock is I'm
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not been home yet.
Take your shoes off.
What do you do if one of thosecals steps on your toes?
Corbin?
Yeah.
I say, ow.
He loses the dude.
What if you hit the hitch onyour trailer with your shin with
shorts on?
He says, more than now, I guessI'm just more careful than
you're, and maybe whenever theleast, the less amount of
clothes you wear, the morecareful you inherently are
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without even thinking about it.
I don't think I've as good asyou either without a shirt on.
So that's why I keep one on, Iknow for a fact I don't, I look
like one of those Home Depotpaint color wheels, like,
because I wear an undershirt, somy hands are one color, my arms
to my armpit is another color.
And then from there on istranslucent.
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It's like those tetra fish thatyou could see through and see
their organs.
Yeah.
You're clear, you're clear.
Ethnicity, clear write.
No.
You brought up a, you brought upa great point.
I mean, it's, it's why we do it.
It's so that we can do it withfamily and we can grow together
and, I don't know man.
It's, it's great.
And I don't, Myla also had herslides on and she had a sorting
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stick and she was helping me get'em.
She helped the whole time.
Just gotta point that out too.
That's awesome.
Fantastic.
It was fun.
It was funny.
She was funny out there helping.
Um, well, and I think that'sprobably the piece that.
When you get to these verticalintegration talks or you get to
these think tank talks, I mean,I just ask that anybody that's
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ever at a meeting, and I hopeI'm this person, is just.
Remember, you're not at themeeting to speak on the behalf
of the little guy at home.
You're at the meeting to makesure that all of your friends
and family members, that thatmessage is conveyed.
And I think those are twodifferent things.
And, and I've had to learn thatin my career.
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I don't speak on the behalf ofpeople, um, but I do share a
perspective that I think isshared by a bunch of people in
my area.
And I think that humility andservice is something we need to
get back to, um, in a lot ofdifferent places.
I'm not just being critical ofthe, um, American Angus
Association or anything, but,um, it, it's okay to be in
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slides in shorts in Oklahoma andit's okay to wear Pearl Snaps in
California or Pocket Tee inTennessee.
I mean, we need to make surethat as soon as we clean up and
put on a jacket and go somewherethat we still remember them
roots because they're whatbrought us here.
I.
Absolutely.
And there's a lot of people onthat walk too.
Um, and I don't know, man, I, Ijust love, love, love this
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business and the marathon thatit is and, you know, where else
can we see such tiny littlevictories all the time if we
choose to see'em?
Um, and the tiny littledisasters all the time if we
choose to focus on those,honestly.
Absolutely.
Um, so do, do you wanna knowwhat a disaster is?
I wanted to say, I wanted to sayit's time for the lines of roar.
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Whenever you were talking aboutthe little disasters and how,
you know, we're at a crossroadsand stuff or whatever, and I
can't find the lion emoji onhere and it's making me sense.
That's sort of like the robotlegs conversation, ting tink
because it's completely hasnothing to do with what we're
talking about.
Yeah.
You know, and I brought it up.
Are you guys ready to move on?
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Where are we at on time?
We taped like 40 minutes yet.
We're good.
It's been like an hour 20.
Do we have a, it's been an hourand four, the, the things at the
top.
Hey, those are not lions though.
Those are, so how does, how doesindependence, they even tie into
cattle rays and I think, I don'tknow.
I don't know why those, theseholidays cut so deep To me, I
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think it's because I think aboutall the people that we're ranch
kids that sacrificed their life,or maybe they didn't even
sacrifice their life in, inpaying the ultimate price, but
they sacrificed time of theirlife in service to protection of
our independence.
And I'm really, reallypassionate about this holiday.
I think it's, I think it's alsoa faith holiday, uh, just like
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Christmas or Easter, to behonest with you, or
Thanksgiving, because of thereverence that I have for those
men and women who, um.
Work hard and devote, devoteeither their own family members,
their own time, their lives, insome unfortunate cases, um, for
people they've never met, andfor a mission absolute that they
believe in.
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And, and I think that that waslike when, when the world wars
were going on, it was like whenpeople at home were involved in
the war too, and themanufacturing and in the bombs
and all that stuff, it tookeveryone, like if we thought
about our vocations, like we'reinvolved in the war effort.
We are, we are in the US army,if you will, of pulling on this
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same court for the American, youknow, citizen.
Um, I, I don't know.
I think it just brings about.
A different perspective.
Um, and I always feel that way.
Colin Davis is super normal,really, really normal guy.
Yep.
But whenever I've talked to himor text him, I just feel
different.
I just feel like I can neverthank him enough.
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And, uh, I feel like I can neverthank any service people enough.
Um, my grandpa was in theservice.
He was in Korea.
Um, unfortunately he doesn'tlike talking about it a lot
because he experienced somepretty rough stuff.
Um, but he came home, grandpacame home.
Um, so I just wanted to mentionthat and I'd like to give you
guys the opportunity to talk alittle bit about that too.
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But it's, it is one of myfavorite holidays to celebrate
and to give thanks, Corvin on alittle bit different note.
I think you, you did a great jobof describing the way I feel
about our servicemen and womenand everything they do.
Just to keep us to where we cansit here and bicker about cows,
I mean, right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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Uh, the safety we have and the,and the advancements that our
military's made is, isabsolutely incredible.
And for people not to recognizethat it just frustrates you.
I'll tell you guys, I don'treally, I mean, I can take or
leave fireworks, right?
I mean, I think you either love'em or you're, you're kind of
neutral or you don't care atall.
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I could take'em or leave them,okay?
That's not why we go to four orfive or, I, that's not why I go
to four or five firework shows ayear.
Uh, sometimes it it's because Ireally enjoy seeing these
citizens of this country all gettogether and celebrate for
everything that we have.
And you can see the excitement,you see kids running.
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Um, it's one of those times ofyear where the weather's really
nice and it's just a good,everything's green and kind of
vibrant, and it's a good time ofyear for people to get outside
and enjoy God's creation.
And so, uh, this time of year, Ireally just enjoy.
The camaraderie that we have aspeople and to get to be in those
opportunities where we can allgo to our local park and hang
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out and have a food truck andsit in our lawn chairs and put,
you know, glow sticks around ourkids' necks and just watch'em
run around and play, becausethere's lots of places where
they aren't given that sort offreedom and, and, you know, so I
really enjoy that time.
Absolutely.
No, it, it's, it's, I like the4th of July because like what
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Joe and and Corbin were bothsaying all those things and I
did not have a family member,um, to serve.
But, um, I have great respectfor the people that have served
and do serve.
And, um, you know, Colin is agood friend of mine and.
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You know, I talk to him all thetime and I, I can't, I, I know I
don't ever thank him enough for,for serving.
And, and it's not just him.
I mean, it's, it's everybody.
It's all of'em.
It's, it's those guys that justwent on the mission, the guys
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and girls, because there was twofemales and somebody got bent
outta shape because you justsaid the guys.
But, um, you know, they, I getupset about it because the thing
that irritates me more thananything is these men and women
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do all that they do.
And a lot of them, when theycome home, they need help.
They need mental help, theyneed, um, physical help and.
Like, I really, really wish thatour VA was a little better than
(01:00:07):
what it is.
I don't know why they have touse the va.
Um, but I know Trump was workingon something for him.
But like, I got great respectfor veterans and man, I don't
know that I could ever help one,but if I could, I'd be glad to
do it because they, they've donea whole lot for me.
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And like Joe, we owe it to'em.
We owe it to'em.
Yes.
And like Joe said, we didn't askfor it.
We didn't ask'em to do it.
They just stepped up and did it.
They did it for the people thathate'em too.
Yeah, exactly.
I have no reason at all.
They're still doing it for him.
The people that burn the flags,the people that stand on the
cars, the pur, the people thatdo all the terrible things.
I mean, those people like Colinfight for those people to have
(01:00:54):
the right in this country to beable to do that.
Now, I will say this, it'spretty incredible those people
that are doing that.
Better.
Be careful that they don't runinto somebody like that.
Be that on that has servedbecause they will whoop the dog
nasty outta'em.
They, I can't say that they'reall gonna be very nice about it,
(01:01:17):
so I don't think I'll be verynice about it.
I wouldn't either.
So you, you guys talked abouthow, um, they're doing things
for people that sometimes don'tappreciate it.
I kind of feel that way rightnow with what we're doing too.
Um, you know, with, with, withus talking about how we wanna
get people together and see whatwe could do to, to change some
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things within the association.
There's people that don't wannachange anything.
But ultimately I think, uh, Ithink it's a good idea for us to
put our heads together andchange something for them, even
though they don't want itbecause it's what's needed.
Corbin, that's such a greatsegue.
That's your best one yet.
I.
Like, don't, don't bring up arobotic dog or anything like the
Mizzou robotic dog, if you seethat thing that plays fetch.
(01:02:01):
No, no, I did it.
So now I did it right.
I brought up the left turn.
But Eaton, but now you gottatell me about this dog.
No, it's incredible.
It's a robot dog that playsfetch.
He was running around with acoach of Mizzou, um, I don't
know, during one of the collegefootball things or whatever.
And uh, that's awesome.
Is he made outta metal?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Fully AI dog.
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And Pat McCafe was screwingaround with it and stuff, and it
was, it was really, reallyfunny.
But, uh, ah, man.
I'd rather have a real dogthough.
What I wanna say though, this issuper important.
It's a great way to you, youpicked a great way to wrap up
this, this show.
Um, have you ever seen, Vince,you've been here a lot longer
than even me.
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Have you ever seen a moreopportune time for breeders to
have a voice to get what theywant?
No.
If we can get coordinated.
I got to digging through thebylaws the other day, guys,
because it was just as simple asI was trying to figure out, do I
need to re, I just did a search,how much does it cost to
register a calf?
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And then the age breakdowns,because it was starting to get
more expensive.
My calves were getting 10 monthsold and like every day it was$15
more,$15 more,$15 more.
And I'm like, son of a gun,surely looking through the
bylaws.
So it was not every day,$15more?
No.
But I was having like threecalves a day.
Oh.
To five calves a day getting 10months old.
(01:03:24):
So at five bucks a piece, right?
If I had 10 born that day,Vince, it's 50 bucks, right?
And so finally I was like, gosh,I just gotta register these
things.
Um, by the way, I'll, I'll makenoted that, um, the seven Wyatt
brought home that are gonna makesteers, uh, six of which had AI
certificates, uh, and JS arefreshly registered within the
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past 36 hours.
So That's awesome.
And so that, that.
Ticks me off too.
If you have had to buy an AIcert and then you end up culling
it, that you can't get that backlot.
And I don't know if you can ofthis, I mean, I wonder, I wonder
if people would work with withme.
You can.
I've actually thought you can't,if you, if you do within 30
days, you can.
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So I probably need to talk tosomeone at the association about
that.
Oh yeah.
You just registered'em, right?
Yeah.
I mean, they cleared Monday.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You can call'em.
Oh, that's, you might be able toget those, so maybe I can get
'em, I can hopefully get'emapplied to the heifers because
the heifers I weighed on.
So anyways, all that to be said,there's a, I started sifting
through the bylaws and therewere some other things that,
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governance wise, and then therewere some rules, like
particularly the gene edit rulesthat I was like, you know what?
There's a great opportunity hereto clarify some of these rules
and change some of these rulesso that we aren't opening this
Pandora's box in another sixmonths and another six months.
So to Corbin's point.
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I think there's gotta be adisposition at the board to
listen to people that have athoughtful message that say,
these are the things we want.
So I would challenge ourlisteners to say, what are the
things you want discern?
Really spend the time discerningwho you're gonna choose as your
leader, um, or who you're goingto listen to and rally around.
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Um, because I do think there's alot of good people who just kind
of sit in the middle, who are onthe, on generally, who are on
the same side of this issue thathave now gone through their
processes and said, okay, enoughall the noise.
What are we gonna do to moveforward now?
Right.
What's the path forward?
Um, so what, not to, to rehashstuff, but what did you find out
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about the gene editing?
I found out that actually ifthey, the board approves a, it's
called a founder gene.
Okay.
So it would be like the initialone.
Um, it would be like, uh, yourAlpha G thing.
'cause we talked about that withNate and Alpha-Gal Pork.
Yeah.
And Alpha Gal Pork just gotapproved, by the way, by the
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FDAI think it was or something.
And so that's been a little bitof a hot button topic.
But if we snipped out throughCRISPR technology and inserted
that in the cattle genome andsaid, Hey, this proposal has
come to the board of directors.
The board of directors have theauthority to approve or deny
that edit right now.
O okay, so a year ago, this sameboard said that they would not
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be accepting gene editing.
Then evidently they've had aconversation about it.
So now not necessarily acceptingit, but are, is open-minded
enough to possibly accept it ifthey like it or think it, it's
helpful.
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Is that, and, and I think thepremise they would use is.
Here's a perfect example of thepremise because we always grab
to the swing the pendulum,pendulum of far end.
Yeah.
What if we found a gene thatcould cure childhood cancer?
And if by eating this beef youwill not get cancer?
We want to introduce that genebecause of its industry appeal
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and its, you know, whatever tohumanity.
They can take that up for avote.
Um.
I would contend actually this,and that's not, that's not the
problem I had.
I think there's an opportunitythere that some of these things
probably need to go to apercentage of the membership
vote, like a two thirds majorityor something is what I would
personally like to see.
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Right, exactly.
Of the voting members or thesecond one though, that was most
disturbing to me.
Are you, are you Hold on oneseconding.
Me, Bennett Cor Uh, BennettCorbin, were you Hold on one.
No, I just, I just rantedwithout saying words.
So here's the one that I havethe problem with and I don't
think this was thought about.
And if it was, shame on whoeverthought about it.
(01:07:43):
The designation to show that ananimal is gene edited.
Do you know what it is?
The poop emoji call meth.
GEFI think it's GEF or GAF,which means genetic altered
genetic edit.
Founder give a.
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Joe Fisher's personal opinion isthat's disingenuous because we
have conditioned a commercialcustomer and a purebred customer
that F means free of a defect.
That's true.
I.
And so when people see that on apedigree, they're already gonna
say, oh, this is fine, this isfine, this is fine.
Just move on.
And it may be fine, but I thinkwe have an obligation to really
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look at how we label thoseanimals so that it's very clear
when someone uses it.
Here's an example, Vince.
Somebody comes and they're donewith Shady.
You're done with Shady Brook,you retire.
They buy Shady Brook, and theysay, you know what?
We really like this bull.
He's, uh, his, his name is, uh,Joe Fisher, full power, and
we're gonna use a hundred strawsof Joe Fisher full power.
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And they use'em and they keepall these daughters and then
they end up being impactful inthe herd.
And you can't ever get that editout.
And then they find out, oh yeah,by the way, that was a, a gene
edit.
I think we need to be very clearin the future of denoting which
ones of these have it and whichones don't, when it goes out in
the population.
I also think that the editsought to be.
(01:09:14):
Like helpful, like the Alpha galthing.
Mm-hmm.
Or I mean, as much as, I hate tosay it, it's a little
self-serving, but like if Icould edit the flies, don't like
my cows, that would be soawesome.
But, but like to edit somethingsilly, like marbling, like just
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breed for more marbling.
You shouldn't have to edit that.
And that's, I think it's goingto be high traits.
I worry that, that they woulddo, I think it will be like, I
would imagine the big, so whatyou've touched on though is one
that scares me to be honest withyou, because that touches on
people's formation and theirpersonal morals and everything
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because there's a spectrum.
You're okay with editing forflies, somebody else isn't, for
example.
Oh, I'm sure.
And somebody else is like, Hey,we would love, we're tired in
Florida of getting discountedfor these cracker cattle, for
example.
Floridans don't hate me, butthey need that kind of a loose
hide brush kind of a cow, right?
(01:10:23):
I mean, at least that's whatI've seen on the cowboy videos.
But now we can use an Angus thatis white that'll have value in
the marketplace.
I think that's where these thinktanks from BIF and different
breed improvement type thinktanks.
That's where they're going witha lot of this stuff.
And I actually think that'sgonna present some real
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challenges and trust to theconsumer.
And like I said, Angus breeders,there is a spectrum, what you're
comfortable with and what you'renot.
And we need to make sure, youknow, the board, doesn't the
board kind of generally look thesame?
Absolutely.
Yeah.
And until we get a diversity ofinfluencers making these
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decisions.
I believe that there's alwaysgoing to be a portion of the
membership.
Is he okay?
Where'd he go?
Yeah, he's fine.
I think he just died orsomething.
But why did turn off his video?
Because he was coughing.
He didn't want us to see himcoughing.
He probably just screwed it upagain.
What happened?
He's still doing it.
(01:11:27):
You all right?
You look, he's fine.
Alright guy.
But anyways, um, I just, I justthink we need to make sure that
the membership is heard becausewe need the strength of the
membership.
The cure to Alpha Gal or theCure to health traits or
whatever is lying somewhere inthe haulers of Tennessee or the
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corner of Montana at someunheard of herd where somebody's
been breeding along forever.
And there's also ways to getahold of those genes.
I.
Through just breeding'emthrough, which is my job and
Corbin's job and Vince's job.
So, I don't know, I took us on ahell of a detour.
But you started at Corbin and Iactually think it was a good
detour.
It really was.
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Can we please, can we, do youhave something to say, Vince?
Well, I was gonna say ha havethey announced, you know, you
said something about our boardlooking very similar.
Mm-hmm.
Have they announced somenominations yet?
Because I, no, I would bewilling to bet that the people
that were already lined up torun would look very similar as
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well.
That's another thing we need totalk about is, is maybe we can
get some nominees added afterthe fact because of the way
things have been so polarizing.
But last year the list of, uh,candidates came out in the
middle of August.
So, um, be looking for thataround that time.
And I actually thought that wasa solution too, to improve some
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of the communication is a onepager from the board saying,
listen, our memberships becomefully engaged.
There's new things popping up.
People are passionate.
Um, let me, let us extend thenomination period of delegates,
if that's what's wanted.
That's if, if, if memberinteraction is desired.
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Something like that.
Makes sense.
Transparency is an easy choiceto make.
Corbin very hard to do.
It's hard, hard to do, but it'seasy if you want to do it.
You can do the things, but youhave to do the things.
No, but, and the, the issue isthat some people, they don't for
whatever, for some people, forwhatever reason, think they're
smarter than you.
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And in reality, um, there's alot of people that think they're
smarter than I am, that I would,I.
Like to talk to them about realworld stuff, anytime of day that
they're ready because I thinkthey live in a different world
than the one I live in.
Correct.
Can we please, please do thesethings before we quit these?
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What things would you ratherquestions?
Oh my goodness.
Oh, you've been saving them.
Are you still talking aboutthat?
They're pretty funny, but I'vewanted to do movie quotes for
like six months now.
And you think it's stupid so wedon't do it.
I don't that Who think it'sstupid?
I don't think it's stupid.
I wanna do it Next episode.
Okay, next episode.
Right after we do, right afterwe do your Would you rather
questions?
Because that for the next threeepisodes, we're each gonna do
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three.
Okay.
What about what?
What movie?
Mom?
The meat Go.
You boys like Mexico.
Okay.
Okay.
Would you rather question one?
Would you rather spend yourSaturday morning working cows or
at home with family?
Who am I working cows with?
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Not spec, it's not specified inthe question.
It, but it, it could be a hugeproblem.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
Uh, keep in mind who younormally work cows with.
I don't know.
Who would you, would you ratherwork cows or sit on your keer at
home watching farmer?
(01:15:02):
Once a while.
Oh, you said sit on your keisteror spend time with family.
Just add home with family.
That's different.
That's different.
Cor Yeah.
No, I'm not on that.
Sorry.
So you're home at family, homewith family?
No, I'm, I'm bad.
I'm bad.
Dad I'd, I would rather workcattle and I would prefer that
my family was there.
And that's what my answer to thequestion was.
You could do both.
Yes.
I wanna work cows, but yes, Iwant my family to be there.
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So you could do both.
Yes, I win.
Okay.
I win outta of the year still,right?
Okay.
Yep.
Next one.
Okay.
Question two.
Would you rather eat brisket ora fancy steak dinner?
Fancy brisket.
Best brisket you.
Best.
Best brisket you've ever had.
Or best steak you've ever had.
Steak.
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Yeah, steak for sure.
Sorry, frosty.
I, unless Frosty's eating it.
I choose brisket.
I cook every day that every dayof the week.
I love brisket.
It's so good.
And the thing I love that issneaky about brisket, it's very
easy to reheat.
So if you have leftovers, youcan't screw it.
It's so good.
Brisket is so good.
Hey, this is a good, if you saythis is a good little rapid fire
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deal, if you say steak, then weneed to have some brisket down
here one day because only, man,I'm telling you steak.
Okay, come then you gotta cometo Oklahoma.
All right, last question that Igot, and this has nothing to do
with cows.
This is mainly for Vince, butcan you pause here in case we
just chop this one off?
Okay.
Give it a second here.
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Do, do, do.
Would you rather be bald or havea head full of shiny white hair?
Uh, bald.
Well, that's convenient.
No, dude, I hate it.
Like, I hate you hate hair.
I hate having my hair.
You don't have, I hate shaving.
(01:16:50):
I just went, oh yeah.
My hair was so long.
The little bit of hair I got wasso long today that it was
driving me nuts.
I don't Like you would have, ifyou grew your beard out and you
grew your hair out, it was aboutthat long and you trimmed, would
the hair, would the, would thepile of hair be bigger off your
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chin or off your head, Vince,which grows faster.
The beard grows fast.
Your beard is legendary, likeit's thick.
And so playoff beard, it's theplayoff beard.
Look at it.
I'll never have this again.
So enjoy it while it's therebecause I'm just doing it.
You put oil in it?
I have to because it gets gross.
It gets like, uh, coarse.
(01:17:33):
If you don't put some stuff inthere, I don't know.
You know, the worst is like whenI brush my teeth in the morning
and all this is long, like itcan never get it all out.
It is like sticky on.
No, it's not sticky.
It's just like I, I wipe it witha rag or a towel and then I just
have to just keep wearing it outto get it all out.
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Drool, it's the worst.
It's no, it wasn't drool, it wasfrom brush my teeth or like if
you're eating ice cream now withthis big long beard, sometimes
you're like, it'll get in andit'll be sticky and you don't
even know it and you just looklike a dummy.
I usually shave.
I.
At this, but I shave on Saturdaynight for church on Sunday
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morning.
Yeah, that's it.
Yeah.
I, I don't like, I can't get itto fill in.
My dad has a mustache like yeah,I do a, a thin one.
No, no.
His mustache is pretty, prettyepic.
Can you grow a playoff beard forus?
I, I mean, I could try for 20,27.
If I start tomorrow.
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Just, just commit.
Just commit to a month.
You can pick the month.
It doesn't have to be right, butwhat playoffs?
Well, you pick the playoffs.
The players are probably rookiesright now.
We don't even know the teams.
It doesn't even have to be thatkind of team.
You could say I'm doing it forMiles's baseball team.
If Miles even.
Does he still play baseball?
No, he'd be a grandfather bythen.
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Vince, what did you say aboutNate?
He don't, I said no.
I said, I said Blake.
Blake had shave tonight and bywhat's today?
Tuesday, by Thursday I have afull beard.
Holy.
That's smoke and it's dark.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
He's a dark fella.
Okay.
He's got to, would you ratherlose your cell phone or your car
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keys?
F that car.
I didn't need my phone.
Well, I can't call anyone.
Exactly.
If you lose your keys, you couldcall somebody and say, Hey, I
lost my keys.
Bring me another set.
Did I tell you what?
Abby bought me a new wallet.
It's got a GPS in it that findsit, that finds it off his phone.
It's got a apple ear tag.
You lose your wallet that much.
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Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
What kind of irresponsibleperson are you?
Well, I never take it anywhereother than when I go to town and
I don't want it in my pocket allday at the ranch, I'll lose it.
Okay.
Would you rather sing everythingyou say or dance every time you
walk?
I am going to dance, dance,dance with my hands.
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Dance above my head.
I want to dance, man.
Could I ch chant I sing to too.
You though?
Can I chant it?
Like, like, I don't know.
You didn't s say you had to singit.
Well yeah, I probably bettersing'cause I can't dance.
Me neither.
That's why I want, I need topractice Vince to answer that
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one.
Oh, that was Amy.
Amy found all these, um.
There was like, I didn't get allthis one typed in.
So would you rather have eightumbrellas?
You don't use 9, 9, 9.
You don't use or be somewhereand not have an umbrella and
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need it?
Depends.
Do I need my car or anythingbesides storage for umbrellas?
I just can't find them.
We're everywhere.
You know?
She was like, golly, I can'tfind my umbrella.
I'll buy some better buy anotherone.
Oh man.
Are you guys ready to wrap?
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Move those books.
Where's your, where's your, haveyou ever or whatever?
No, he's gonna do his next one.
We're gonna do it.
We're gonna do it next week.
We might each need, we'll come.
We'll you didn't have it.
Did you rather ever, did yourather whatever?
You rather would you rather Youwant me to read what my last one
is?
Yes.
I didn't get to finish typing itin.
Yeah.
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So I've got vacation alone orwith people.
Surely there was more to that.
Surely, surely, surely there wasmore to that.
Like maybe with people you don'tlike or that you, I don't know.
I want to say, I said, how manytimes have y'all heard me say I
love my family?
How many?
A lot.
Lot.
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I want a vacation alone.
Boring.
Like the first day you'd be sopumped and by like day two or
three you'd be like, this is soboring.
So I got a good Regie.
Would you rather?
But it doesn't fit this vibe.
So we'll do it on the next one.
Oh, come on.
No, because then it goes back tothe cerebral Joe question.
Serious.
And we just got off of thescrew.
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Hey, that was the rule though,about the Woody rathers.
You can have some serious ones,but you gotta bring some funny
too.
So be thinking about, I'll useAI to do it and then it'll be
too.
Yeah.
All right.
I'm gonna go move some steers.
Take it away.
Okay.
So yeah, two are still here.
He's still here.
We love him again.
We love him again.
Think.
Yeah.
We love him again.
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Remember his, uh, what was it?
He, he brought it, he, he gotback in our love.
Good.
Grace was comment, some comment.
His kid has a straw hat that'sexact same as my straw hat.
And yes, he does the flatbed.
It doesn't, it's got kind of aflat brim.
So, yeah, he's back in.
Yeah.
Take it away there.
Take it away.
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We will see you next time aroundthe shoot.