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In this episode, the host discuss various aspects of cattle breeding that excite them, including seeing their own prefix on successful cattle, observing progress and improvements in the herd, and experiencing the satisfaction of cattle that perform as expected. The episode concludes with an invitation for potential 2025 Angus Association board candidates to join the podcast.

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We are recording in progress.
Ra, welcome to around the shoot.
You're here with Corbin.
Joe and me.
Vince in the library.
In the library.
That's what it feels like.
There's like the, there's noenergy.
What happened?
I was just, I was just, uh,waiting to see how long Vince

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would talk before one of uswould say something.
He was like, uh, are y'all gonnahop in here?
I started sweating.
Dude started sweating like, man,he's already in the freaking
janitor's closet down there.
Vince does that, uh, does thatoffice have a window?
Yeah, but hang on.
Ah, look at cows.

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Look at the cows.
Look.
Not like the bistro.
Look at the cows out there.
Look at my back scratcher.
Oh, nice.
Wow.
That thing has claws.
That's metal.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I've never, I've never seen ametal back scratcher.
Oh yeah, it's heavy duty.
I see your Angus.
I see your Angus legends in thebackground.
Uh, listeners hang tight teasingthe our favorite cows episode

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forthcoming.
I don't know when we're gonna doit, when we're gonna do it in
the fall, I guess.
Have you, uh, have you read bothof those books?
Um, I'm BEUs to them.
There's a lot to read if you'rejust, it's not really something,
it's not really something thatyou read though, unless you are
just looking for a specific, butlike, if you, like, let's say

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something triggers yourattention and you look that calp
and then you read about thatcertain g Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it's not like one of thosebooks that you're just gonna sit
there and read, oh, this is theold, the old lady, or whatever.
And whenever those came out, Imistakenly bought one for my dad
and my father-in-law.
Um, I didn't really understandwhat they were.

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But I thought they would be acool gift and something that
they could, they could learnfrom.
But then I think at the end ofthe day, they're like, dude,
this is way more in depth thanI, than I care to know anything
about.
It's more like a referencemanual.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
And for people that don't knowwhat to look for, it's just a

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lot of firestarter, isn't it?
Correct.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean it, but it is fun.
Where I had the most fun.
I don't know if it was on thegroup text or if I was on a.
Did I have you on FaceTime orsomething, Vince?
Maybe.
It might've been the group text,but I just ca caught one
afternoon.
I was flipping through it,looking at the different trends
throughout the eras and it isamazing how much cattle have

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changed through these timeperiod.
Yes.
And you know, it's interesting.
People say the cattle were sobad or this was so bad or that
was so good.
Or what?
I don't know.
I mean, we're still here, we'restill in the moment.
In the moment.
I don't think it was that wecouldn't see that it was bad how

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bad they were.
You, you noticed, you noticedwhat was bad then.
Just as we notice what's badnow.
Correct.
And everybody tries to, um, fallto the middle basically in a lot
of things.
Um, well we weren't even talkingabout this.
This isn't written down, this isbanter.
But like I would ask you guys,did it take an influencer for

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the shift?
Was it someone of influence whostarted breeding more belly into
cattle that made it happen?
Or was it a response to harddoing cattle or, I mean, you
look back in the nineties,triggers those cattle are a
response to something.
'cause there's a lot of whattriggers the, what triggers the
change?
What does it take?
Oh no, I just remember when itdid change.

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Um, I, I remember when itstarted changing to, from, from
the hot, taller hard doingcattle to the softer, a little
more moderate.
And they weren't moderate liketoday's moderate, but they were
way more moderate than the wholebelt buckle cattle.
Um, and when I say belt bucklecattle, it's not that they're

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tall enough that they're thesame height as your belt buckle.
It's the cattle that were sotall and so gutless that you
could stand behind'em and theywouldn't be able to see your
face, but they'll see your beltbuckle.
Yeah, there was a lot of those.
Yeah, there was a lot of those,but, um, I don't know why they

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changed.
I just remember when the changewas.
I was a little, little fella,so, well, and then we're, we're
looking at it like from ahistory perspective.
So we look at the fifties andwe're like, oh, look at these
belt buckle cattle.
And then we look at the eightiesand we're like, dang, they got
really tall then.
And we did like it.
It's easy to lose track of.
That's 30 years.

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It still took time to get tothat point, but if you're just
looking at it from a historyperspective, you're like, if
dang, these cattle have changedso much over the years, but it's
like a gradual transition fromwhatever they are to whatever
they're gonna be.
And then it doesn't just happenovernight.
Right.
So did you guys see this thing,did you see this thing where
somebody came out and said thatthey were gonna need 1100 pound

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carcass weights in the future,or no?
No, no, no, no.
Was it 17?
What was the number?
It was crazy.
It was, it was super high.
'cause we've had 1100 poundcarcass weights no problem.
But basically equated to 2000pound fat cattle.
It would have to be the normfor, um, business to survive or
whatever.
I can't remember.
It was a couple weeks ago thatcame out.

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What, what do you got there?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, he's beautiful.
Shady Brook.
Shady Brook.
No, we, we had some high countrythat is, I don't know, foot,
what is that?
Uh, foot Acres.
Encore.
What is that carcass?

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Which, that has to be inresponse to where we're at now.
Our, our numbers are so shortand people are like, well, how
are we gonna make up thedifference?
Yeah, I think so.
And I actually think that, Ithink it's a response to
something and, and it's alsosomebody being bold enough.
I mean, what do you got?
Oh, you got more stuff?
What's funny is, is some ofthose cat, well, yeah, she, uh,

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she's something open and readyto flush.
Wow.
Look at this bull, Susan.
Oh yeah.
Is that Peyton?
You can't even say his nuts.
No, no, that's, that's a name ofa showman.
That's not the bulls name.
Corbin.
Oh, it said, oh, I was prettysure it did.
It did say Patton.

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So it said Peyton bro.
But tell me that some of themodern cattle today couldn't use
a little of that right now.
Oh, absolutely.
I mean, absolutely.
There's some cattle out therenowadays that need some real
world put back into'em.
I think.
I think there's lots of goodcattle for fleshing ease and,
and a certain look.

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But when you, I think it wouldtake somebody who has a
reputation in the show world,let's just say.
Um, I don't know how to even.
Ryan Rash is a, is a name in thelights right now in the show
world, right?
Hello?
Hello, hello.
If Ryan were to boldly make someselections at a couple

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consecutive major shows, wecould see a shift in how cattle
are are selected.
Now Joe Fisher goes in there andgets on a microphone and starts
selecting things that are wildlydifferent.
They're gonna say, this guy's anidiot.
He doesn't know what he's doing.
He doesn't understand the showworld.
And so I think that that's whathappened.
Isn't the, wasn't the graysteer's name like Conoco or

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something like that?
Vince, do you remember that?
What?
Do you remember that Corbin?
So there was a Charla crosssteer that was used in Denver
one year that shifted a lot outof, I believe it was the Baby v
Faira and all that crap.
Um, and Tom Burke could be thetype of person to ask that
question too.
But I do think the show worldused to play a pretty.

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Critical role is an influencerfor direction of the industry.
Now it's kind of in this wholedifferent land, which we were
going to talk about the showworld in a little bit more
timely place, but how it shifts.
Do you guys feel like there's ashift right now in the cattle

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world?
I do.
A little bit.
I do too.
How?
Explain that.
I feel like, I feel like there'sa lot of people that went down a
path that they were led tobelieve is a good path.
And I think they got a lot ofcattle that they didn't like or

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it's very possible that they,that they made and purchased
those cattle.
And then in the process theylearned more and then realized
those are not the kind of cowsthat they like or the cows that
they want.
And I, I truly feel like the,people, what I would call, I

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guess the one percenters thatare looking for the top 10% or
1% of this and that, I thinkthose guys are taking a step
back and saying, these are notworking for me and either I need
to sell out or I need to, um,shift directions.

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Does that make sense?
Is that what you're seeing orno?
Am I way off base?
Well, what do you think Corbin?
I think you're seeing it.
Absolutely.
Um, ultimately I think there'smore people that have gone down
that route and then are like.
Man, these things are notworking.
They're not breeding back.
I'm not making any money rightnow.

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Then there are those that aretrying to raise practical cattle
and then at the end of the dayare like, uh, I can't get'em
sold.
I can't get'em sold.
I can't move'em.
Um, so I'm gonna go chasenumbers.
Now there's a, there's apercentage of people that do go
that route.
Um, I think the three of uscould name some right off hand

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that, that we'd say, you knowwhat, they weren't selling
cattle, so they bred somenumbers into'em and then they
started being able to sell'em.
So that's what they're doing.
Uh, but at the end of the day,there's more people with the
real world in mind than thereare people that are just trying
to get'em sold.
So that's what's causing theshift is that there's a lot of

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people that are like, you knowwhat?
Money is side.
I just wanna make a better cow.
Right?
But I also think Joe and I weretalking about this the other
day.
I also think there's a place forthe middle road.
Yeah.
You know, you're, you got theextremists on both directions.

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You got the extreme puristmaternal guys, and you got the
extreme, uh, the carcass guys.
And I, I do think there's amiddle ground that I think
people are also starting to looktowards.
That middle ground is going tobe, it's gonna grow and grow and

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grow and grow, especially withwhat's going on within the
association itself.
That's gonna cause people toband together in that way.
And that's, and and they'regonna go away from the science
side of it, um, from what I cantell.
So I think that middle ground,which is kind of where.

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This would just be straight upopinion, but that middle
ground's kind of where we kindof need to be.
And I think that middle ground'sgonna get bigger, and we're at
the mid, at the time of thisboom in cattle prices.
We're gonna start trying to, Ifeel like we're just hitting
everything right on time.
Everything's gonna be right ontime.
The cattle are, are right, thenumbers are down.

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Um, everyone has the idea inmind that, hey, we're just
trying to make good ones.
Um, and I don't mean totransition here, but I think
that a lot of us have learnedfrom 2014, 2015, whenever the
market was high.
Hey, we don't, we don't have togo spend a bunch of money.
We don't gotta go buy a bunch ofheifers.
We don't have to.
We can, we can ride this out andmake some money.
So I think, uh, all of it's kindof hitting at the same time and

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it's all, it's all net positivein my, in my view.
So if you, um, if, if listeners,if my voice is nails on the
chalkboard for you, it'd be agood time to just fast forward
like two or three of the 30seconds because while these guys
were talking, I made some notesand you guys chime in at any
second.
This isn't a monologue and Ididn't prepare this, but my mind

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kept going to social media andhow that's changed so much.
It's changed so much because Ifeel like cattle in general,
especially Angus cattle, but allbeef cattle are so easily over
promoted.
So easily over promoted.
I've got Facebook ads all thetime and it doesn't really
matter if it's herford orShorthorn or Char, but it is

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dominated by Angus, or at leastthat's what on is on my
algorithm.
And anybody could be a marketinggenius and anybody can hire the
exact same photographers to comedoctor the photos.
They could have high integrityphotos, any number of things
that they want, you can find outthere and there's a prize for
it.
And so I think that also, whilethat space is going on, I do

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think that the people investingin these high-end genetics do
have expectations.
They have expectations of somesort of success.
And I think that when they don'tget that social media has become
the town square in which theystart asking a lot of questions
or they connect with people andthey say, wait a minute, are
your torque daughters doingthis?

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Or Are your shady book highcountry doing this?
Or are your uh, rafter five andRavens doing this?
Or, you know, whatever the bullmay be.
And they start to vet out andmore information is readily
available.
And so I do think the shift iscoming where cattle better do
what they say that they will do.
And I think what's wild is youguys said, you talked about two

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different camps of cattle,almost the maternal guys and the
number guys or the, the, uh, andI'm putting air quotes on both
of those, by the way.
To me, maternal is way more thana look or a body type.
I think that a lot of times whenwe put so much whale belly into
cattle or so much muscle intocattle, and we can call it

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whatever we want, are thosetruly maternal traits?
Well, if you can quantify themas a cow that has bred back and
stayed in the herd and raised acalf that got sold right along
with the rest of the bunch, thenmaybe it is or maybe it isn't.
I don't know.
Um, I've always said that, thatthat is in the eye of the
breeder to be able to definethat.
But what I will say is in bothsides of those camps, we are

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missing out on some cattle thattake care of the fundamentals
for commercial cattlemen.
Fundamentals are rare.
Now fundamentals are, are, are,are valuable to commercial
cattlemen and I think that whenyou have now a bread heifer
that's worth 42, 4500, uh, a7-year-old bread cow that's
worth 38 50, uh, you see thesestories of these pears bringing

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over 5,000.
Them cattle better take care ofthe fundamentals because the day
that she leaves the sale barn orthe high-end production sale or
whatever, nobody remembers orcares how much potential she
has.
What they remember is what sheactually does.
And so when you say shift, Vinceand Corbin, you agreed.

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I absolutely feel a palpableshift right now in the entire
beef business where the cattle,I don't care what your numbers
are, I don't care what your lookis, they better do what you said
they were going to do, orsomeone else is gonna seek out
someone else in this onlinemarketplace that'll do a better
job than you will.
So do you, what's your responseto that go?

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Do you think that, uh, that thisballooned market, this, this
really high market, it's gonnamake people quicker to move on?
In my opinion, I, I mean, Ithink if genetics don't work.
They're worth so much just tohaul'em off that they're just
gonna say, you know what, thiscow's not working for me, so I'm
just gonna go sell her for fourgrand for no.

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And she's, I bought, I paideight for her, but I can sell
her for four and she's not thecow I want and I can, you know,
it's, I think the good onesstand there stands reason to say
there should be, we should comeout of this with a better cow
herd.
Well, absolutely.
But I also look at what cost.
I mean, I think that every,every single time you look, I'm

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looking at my Facebook feed allthe time, and I see more and
more bread cattle for sale, morebread, cattle for sale, and
we're eating our nation's cowherd.
There's gonna be a pile ofopportunity for some
young-minded people who want togrow and who want to have
quality cattle that take care ofthe fundamentals.
I mean.
We just picked up two new leasesthis winter or this summer
already for the winter.

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And um, I was visiting a greatyoung, I say young, I'm 40, I'm
going to be 42 probably by thetime this podcast airs.
And, um, this producer's 41 andI said, do you feel like we've
got more opportunity even thoughwe're in California than ever
before in our life?
And he said, absolutely.
I sort of feel like thedevelopment that's happened is,

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is over and we can't really getcrowded out too much.
But there's a lot of people whoare seeing these record prices
and they're saying, we're gonnacash in and move on.
We're gonna cash in and we moveon.
So back to your, your cow typequestion though, Corbin.
'cause I took us on a little bitof a derail when you had the big
number cattle, I think ingrainedin everybody's mind was.

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The premise they operated underis they always bred and they
caved and they did everything.
And you got the numbers forfree, so why wouldn't you choose
that?
And then on the other side, onthe look side of things, it was
also a premise of, you know,these have this maternal look
and they're gonna raise a bigcalf and they're going to do all
these things.
Well, people are vetting out thepremises now and saying, do they
do that?
And if they don't, they'removing on past them.

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And Vince, you were shaking yourhead about two seconds ago, and,
and I, I just kept right onrailroading through'cause I had
a thought.
So go ahead.
What were you thinking?
I was just thinking I agreedwith you.
Well, that was, that was good.
He was saying good, he wastrying to give a thumbs up.
That's what he was trying to do.
Jeff.
No, I, I, I agree witheverything you said, so I just

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was shaking my head.
In fact, couldn't have said itbetter myself.
I was like, yeah, in fact, Icould have said it better
myself.
So you know what's interestingis a commercial guy called me
this morning and alsoyoung-minded, and he said, you
know what I finally dawned on meis he goes, what does breed
average even mean anymore if wealready said that we've maxed

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out growth in our operation Xamount of years ago and we
haven't had heavier calves?
Why do I need to be top 1% nowwhen the animals that are in the
bottom 20%, so that meansthey're a 70 on your paperwork.
Those were the top 1% for growthin the nineties.
And we said those cattle wereplenty big.
So maybe I don't mind beingbelow average for weaning or

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below average for yearly.
And he said, actually he broughtit up when it came to to
marbling.
He goes, what does that evenmean?
If breed average is 0.65 or 0.70compared to what?
If our cattle were meeting allthe, all the closeout standards
that we were hoping for 10 yearsago or five years ago, or
whatever the number is, and youthink about the genetics they

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were using back then, I justfeel like we're playing in this
kind of outer space realm thatis hard to validate.
And if you really think about itwhen it comes to the number
thing and you compare it back towhat average is, average is
probably good enough in a lot ofthe places, and I know
somebody's gonna tear me down.
It's gonna be the do-goodertypes that say, we always need

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to work harder, we always needto do more.
We need to strive for more.
Why got news for you?
This is my rant, Vince, go aheadand cancel me.
We've had episodes editedbefore, but here's my rant.
Usually those people saying,work harder, do more, make
better cattle.
Those aren't the ones out theretaking care of things, right?
Those are the ones who areworking for somebody who's got a
paycheck and they work for agenomic company or whatever, and

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they're telling me, you need tomake your cattle so much better
to meet the demands of thefuture.
And I say, that's.
Bull pucky.
I need to be able to pay mybills today and I may, I need my
children to have the sameopportunities tomorrow that I've
had today.
I would agree wholeheartedly.
That's very well, well saidagain.
Very well said again.
Do you, do you got anythingelse, Joe?

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Well, so, uh, you know, the, thething, the thing about it is,
you know, I had this same con, Ihad this conversation, um,
earlier actually with I thinkLogan Sampson.
We were talking about the factthat these EPDs honestly do not
reflect if you have an animalthat says it shouldn't marble

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well, and it actually marbleswell.
It actually out marbles, a lotof other bulls in your sale,
then it's still going to hold itvery low because that's what the
parent average said it shouldbe, instead of boosting it and

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giving it a a zero, say forinstance, boosting it up to a 50
or instead of a 50, boosting itto a 75, they won't let it have
its, um, 15 minutes of fame orwhatever you wanna call it.
They won't give it the accurateinformation.

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So that's the hard part aboutall this stuff is the
inaccuracies.
And this is not supposed to beabout EPDs, we're just talking,
but the inaccuracies in all ofthat stuff.
It makes you not even want to doany of it because it doesn't
matter.
I think, I think we're gettingcloser to a time to where we're

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not necessarily using numbers.
I, I, I really think that we'rein an impasse and I think a lot
of people aren't seeing resultsfrom the numbers cattle they're
using.
They're seeing other things thatare kind of bothering'em and,
and giving them reason to wantto change.
And so I wouldn't be surprisedif the number of people that
say, you know what?

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I'm not even 50 K in thesethings anymore because it's not
paying me.
You're, I, I, man, I, who am Ito say, who am I to say that's,
that's wrong.
How you, you can't sit there andtell me that's wrong right now.
People have got to get back to,I'm getting paid by the pound.
We need pounds.

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And there's only a handful ofpeople that are actually
retaining interest on the railthat are gonna get paid for that
extra marbling.
I just don't see where I'm not,I'm not gonna give up pounds for
marbling if I'm a commercialguy.
Well let ask you this, Vince, Iwant you to open that up a

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second.
'cause we do have to remember, Idon't think we always remember
this.
We might have some really,really young listeners on here.
So I think maybe they just heardyou say you're selecting for
weaning and yearling weight.
That's it.
That's it.
But what, Vince, correct me ifI'm wrong, you're talking about
animals that take care of allthe fundamentals.
So they breed on time.
You're talking about whole ranchproduction.

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Yes.
You're selling pounds of beefoff of the Shady Book Brook
ranches, which includes Perunit.
Per unit.
Per unit.
Per unit.
Right.
Which includes, that's the, thatmeans you gotta breed how many
cows exposed, how many cowsbred, how many died of sickness,
all these things, right, Vince?
Yes.
It don't it, I mean, and that'sthe thing we get, people can get

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focused, we get focused ondifferent things, not
necessarily Marly, but peoplecan get focused on certain
things.
And if we're selling bulls orwe're making replacement
females, or we're just makingreplacement females for us and
not to sell, they all still haveto have all those fundamentals.

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Yes.
So what, who cares if it's inthe top?
Percent or in the bottom 1% ifshe breeds and she can milk and
raise a calf.
And that calf is honestly morethan likely in the, within the

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average of your herd.
I don't even know what's,accept, what's acceptable.
10% either way, 5% either wayon, on a weight.
You know, you don't want to,your whole herd averaging, uh,
600 pound females and you don'twant this one to be at four 50.
Now that cow needs to go right.
Yeah, and I would say mostcommercial guys, commercial guys

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for instance, would look attrend lines and they would say,
this cow continually has theirheifers be too big and too hard
and hurt.
Or just like this particular cowalways makes a, a steer calf
with white feet that gets kickedoutta the bunch and can't make
the load.
Or, this one is always, it's amatter of if they make the load
or not.
If they sell in your big bunchof steers or if they're not

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right.
And those trends make her leaveor go, if you just sorted, uh,
if you just sorted on fertilityas a commercial cow calf guy, do
you know what kind of cow herdyou could have?
If you, if your only goal waspounds at weaning and fertility,
the set of cows, if you just cuttheir heads off and didn't even
know what their number was, youwould have the best set of cows

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on the planet.
If your only goal was pounds atweaning and fertility, they
would all sort itself out.
And all the other crap is just.
Noise.
Yes.
Yeah.
God, you guys are right.
Yeah.
It's just noise.
It reminds me of, uh, I had afriend one time tell me about a
high dollar cow, and I won't sayhis name on here because, um, I,

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I just won't, but he'll knowwhen he listens.
He's like, oh yeah, that cowover there.
She's the one I call the bicyclewith no pedals.
And I'm like, what?
He's like, yeah, she's got likethe tricked out paint and the
tricked out handlebars and it'sall chrome and the wheel spokes
are incredible and it's got thelittle thing on it, you know?
Do, do, do you, you push thehorn and you could beep at

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people in a basket.
Well, but why doesn't it havepedals?
Well,'cause you can't ride it.
It's not good for riding.
And, and I think that that'smaybe where we've gotten with
some of these cattle and, andit's the same in a lot of
things.
If you think about.
Just how we consume everythingas Americans.
There's, think about thepickups.
Are the transmissions as toughas they used to be in some of

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these pickups?
Or do are we turning out moretoque, more torque than ever
before?
We got heated seats, airconditioned seats, we got all
these things and we're like,man, can we just get the
fundamentals please?
Because I don't need a screenthat's bigger than this computer
on my pickup.
I just prefer that thetransmission lasts longer than
60,000 miles.
That would be correct.
Pretty handy.

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That'd be pretty handy, correct.
So, um, I don't know, do youguys have anything else to add
on that?
That was kind of, uh, our bantersegment that grew.
It was kind of fun.
Yeah, I thought that was kind offun.
Yeah.
So, uh, if you don't havesomething to do, you have
something to add, Vince?
I do not.
I'm gonna take a way left turnand I'm gonna let Corbin tell us

(27:48):
what's been going on in his lifefor a little bit.
'cause he's been in dark and Idon't know what he's comfortable
sharing or not sharing with themasses.
So, Corbin, the stage is yours.
Well, I've been pretty quiet,uh, because, uh, we've been
welcoming a child into the worldand it's just been one of those
times where, um, we've beenspending some time together and

(28:11):
sleep's hard to come by aroundhere.
So that's been an interestingchange that we, it's been six
years and so we're not quiteused to it anymore.
But, uh, but our listeners willbe happy to know that Myla has a
baby sister Millie, who's doinggreat.
And, uh, before we hang up,I'll, I'll bring Millie in here
and let y'all see her andeverything.

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But, uh, um, there's not muchbetter.
There's not much better for me.
It's been getting to be a dad.
It's, it's definitely thebiggest joy I've ever had in
life, and it's ever since I wasa little kid, that's all I ever
wanted to be too.
So it's, it's been veryrewarding and, um, I'm excited

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to, to raise another one and,and in this lifestyle and to get
to, to love someone as much as Ilove Myla.
It's gonna be so awesome.
Well, I know we were very, uh,excited for you and we were
also, the entire time, everyweek we were cheering you on
that you made it another week.

(29:15):
Uh, that was awesome, to behonest.
And, and then when you, when youfinally, you sent the text and
you're like, it's happening.
And I was like, what'shappening?
And I was like, oh, it'shappening.
And, uh, I was a little off onthat one.
Well, as life is, you know,that's, that's been one of our
challenges is, is.

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Basically keeping a baby in.
Um, but she made it a reallylong time, almost to 35 weeks,
came out eating and drinkingand, and we were only in the
NICU for a few days this time.
So it, it's amazing what doctorscan do and it's amazing what
modern medicine has as afforded,uh, afforded parents the

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opportunity that, uh, you know,if, if it had been a hundred
years ago, I don't know if Iwould have a kid or a wife.
I don't know if I'd have eitherone.
So, um, I'm so thankful with theadvances in modern medicine.
I did meet someone, uh, while wewere in the nicu.
His name was Joseph, and I don'tknow if Joseph's listening right

(30:22):
now, but, um, he has a baby girlas well and he lives in around
Shawnee, Oklahoma.
And he was just asking me some,so I had my rafter five M hat
on.
And he read it and he is like,so what's that?
I'm like, ah.
And that's an awkward question,right?
Whenever someone asks you that.
I was just like, ah, it's just alittle, I got a few cows and

(30:43):
it's just kinda, you know what Ido.
And then he started asking morequestions and he found out my
name and I didn't say anythingabout around the shoot.
'cause that would be, wouldn'tthat be weird?
Yeah.
Hey, I got a podcast if youwanna hear more, I just talked
to you for 20 minutes, but hey,I got a podcast if you wanna
hear me talk some more.
No, not so I didn't bring thatup.
But then, uh, you know, he gotto looking it up and he had, he

(31:05):
had went and listened to someepisodes, so, um, always
flattering when that happens.
But, um, Joseph, if you'relistening, hopefully Yeah, he's,
he reach out to me anytime.
So, yeah, I think, uh, theinteresting part about being a
parent is, uh, Abby and I haveexperienced this just lately.

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We're, we're a little bit behindVince, um, but quite a ways
ahead of you, Corbin, and, uh.
Once you're a parent, and I havea particular worldview that, um,
fortunately we, we had the, the,I don't know, the blessing of,
of never having to deal withlosing a child or having

(31:48):
struggles with our children oranything like that.
But in faith, I believe that ifyou have, have conceived a
child, um, that you're a parent,I believe that, um, regardless
of, of what journey that childhas, the cool part is, is that
never ends.

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Like once it happens, it neverends.
And it's so wild to think about.
Like, I have a, I have a19-year-old and I'm still a dad,
but I'm a dad of an adult now,which is different.
And so your role.
I remember when we had Bennett,um, I was talking to that bridal
horse mentor of ours, and Isaid, man, I'm just so terrified

(32:30):
because he's so little and likeif we hurt him or whatever.
And he said, let me tell yousomething about being a dad.
You'll never, ever stop worryingabout him.
And, uh, I don't know, it justhits me and, and I find new
life.
Uh, I find so much joy in newlife.

(32:50):
I find so much, um, testimonyand seeing new life.
I think it is so brilliant.
I think it's so joyful.
I think it's, I think it'ssomething that we all need and I
appreciate you allowing us toexperience that with you,
Corbin.
Um, because it's such a gift.
God, what a gift he gives us inlife.

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And um, and there's a lot ofpeople, there's a lot of people
out there who would never beable to get to the depth to say.
That they don't value life, buttheir actions do not value life.
And that is evil.
And that annoys me.
Oh my gosh.
Hi Myla.
There's Myla.

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Oh, and here's the baby.
Wow.
Oh golly.
It's so little.
God, there's so little, huh?
Like, God, it's just hard torealize that our kids were ever
that little.
I know.
And you know, it's funny, I was,Abby and I were talking about
like ours come into our bedroommore as adults than they did as

(33:56):
kids.
Yeah.
And when they were confined inthe crib, they went to bed and.
Like that was it.
Now it's like 12 in the morning,knock, knock, knock.
Dad, we had this go on or thatand, and I get frustrated, but
then Abby's like, Hey, they'recoming here.
They have questions and they'rebringing it here.
We did something right?
Anytime Sophia.

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Sophia used to have nightmares,she had night terrors and it
took us a long time to figure itall out.
But anyway, she would come inour bedroom and go, I mean like
a ninja you wouldn't even know.
She came in there and then herhair would be huge'cause she'd
been sleeping and she would justbe standing over.
Amy like just looking at it.

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And Amy would just wake up like,holy, what do you want?
Oh man.
Yeah, that could happen to me.
'cause I'm a pretty, I'm apretty sound sleeper, but No,
what a blessing, Corbin.
Thank you for sharing with that,that with us and our listeners
and, uh, you know, blessings toeveryone.
I mean, I, I think that that's,that's why we do this.

(35:02):
I mean, so we're gonna kind of,uh, do you guys want to go, we
have enough time to go into thistopic now, Vince, what do you
think?
Yeah, yeah.
So the topic we decided on fortoday is what gets your blood
pumping.
And then we kind of brainstormedbefore saying, well, Vince, what
gets your blood pumping AndCorbin, what gets your blood

(35:23):
pumping?
And you know, the first one thatI said, I'll start because it
ties into Corbin.
Corbin with Mya and Millie.
Uh, Millie, June, right.
Corbin, is it Milli Junee.
Milli June.
Yeah, milli June.
Um, and my land's crawlingbehind me right now watching my
kids.

(35:44):
Select a good one that gives myblood pumping.
And it's not because I'm like,man, that kid's got an eye.
It's more about, they've beenwatching what I'm doing, they've
been listening to what we value.
They've been listening to whatwe are frustrated about, what
things we look for andappreciate in cattle, and they

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see all that and that isincredible to me.
And that gets my bloodabsolutely pumping.
I would've to agree with thatwhen we were, I was just
thinking back when we wereshowing and we would always kind
of go out and ride around andtry to find the next one that we
wanted to try to show possibly.
And sometimes I just broughtsome up there and we kind of

(36:30):
messed with'em and, and try tofigure out which ones acted the
best.
A lot of times, depending on theage of the kids.
It's more so about which one iseasier to handle than it is
actually how good they are.
But, um, you know, that wasalways kind of fun, um, to have
those conversations.

(36:51):
Like with Sophia and, and Amyand, and even Nate.
Not so much Nate back then, buteven now, Nate notices stuff and
you know, he's like, man, thatcow's doing a really good job,
or she's not doing good enough,or whatever.
And it, when he says stuff likethat, it catches me off guard

(37:13):
because, uh, I wasn't expectingit.
And you weren't even really surehe was paying attention.
Right.
You weren't even, I didn't evenknow you were paying attention.
And then like, Sophia may pullup or she may come down here and
get something outta the officeor something.
She's like, Hey, that's such andsuch heifer.
There in the bottom, she'spretty sharp.
And I'm like.
Okay, now I gotta go.

(37:33):
Look what?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it even, it even, you caneven extrapolate it out or
whenever they're tiny, likeMyla, she's six and the other
day we were working, I wasworking cows and she was out
there with me and a cow wouldn'tcome and heck, she goes behind
them and, and brings'em throughthe, through the alleyway and
through the chute without meeven asking her to.
And she was like, were you readyfor the cows down?

(37:54):
I'm like, yeah, you did a goodjob.
That's right.
She, she's brought up.
So you don't realize how muchthey're paying attention.
Well, until show you the typething.
The type thing.
That's, that's what gets myblood pumping more than
anything.
Corbin is what you just saidabout paying attention, you
know, and the other part is, islivestock judging.
I never, I never would'vethought this, um, despite the

(38:17):
flaws of the livestock judgingworld, which we'll dive into
that someday and see it, or, oropen it up because there are a
lot of flaws with it.
But one of the best things aboutlivestock judging ever, in my
opinion, is that you have toobserve something.
And then you formulate a placingand you, you kind of take a
stand and you justify why youdid something.

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And so for those kids to be ableto go out and evaluate cattle
and justify their selections, I,I've said this several times to
you guys.
I think it's, it's not easy whenyou go into our bread heifers.
I'm very proud of that fact.
Actually, this particular year,bread heifers are pretty doggone
sporty, and it's not easy tofind the quote, best one.

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And, uh, Abby and I decided thatwe let every one of the kids
choose, uh, heifer, a cow or areplacement heifer that they
wanted this year to start theirherd.
And we would buy that animalfrom Bruin Ranch, um,
personally, and then the kidswould have it.
And so there's no, like the, thecorporate structure of the ranch
and stuff isn't compromised oranything.

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But anyways, miles picked myfavorite heifer.
Without my help, he picked myabsolute favorite bread.
Heifer.
Paxton picked one of my very,very favorite, um, uh,
replacement heifers.
Bennett goes out and makes alist and he picked the number
one, the number two, the numberfive, and the number six heifer.
If I were to rank'em.

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And so to see them kids just asa reflection of us, that gets my
blood pumping.
I would agree.
You have anything else to add?
No.
Other than you picked all thebest comments.
So it gets our blood pumping andit gets mine too.
You just say it a little betterthan I do a lot of times.

(40:09):
Well, why don't you turn thepage then?
You, you start.
I didn't write'em all down.
Corbin did.
I did.
I did.
So do y'all wanna hear whatJoe's next suggestion was?
Get his.
Vince, you said progress, so whydon't you take us through that.
Yeah.
Progress.
Like just, and, and sometimesit, it goes back and forth.

(40:31):
Um, but when you just go for aride and, and there's no
pressure and you're just outriding and looking or, you know,
maybe you just drive by apasture, uh, pasture, all the,
every day and you happen tonotice a specific animal.
Blake texted me today.
He was out checking.

(40:52):
He was like, what about, uh,he's like, oh my God, did you
see this cow?
And he sent me her pedigree anduh, I said, yeah, I noticed her
this spring.
Every time I went by thatpasture, she was standing right
there.
You know that one, that's justalways right there.
And, um, I just kept, I keptfinding her all the time.

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She got a great udder.
She's got good feet, goodpedigree, so.
You know, it, it, those thingskind of get me excited when
you're, when you're ridingaround and you just see, and,
and sometimes it's after youhaven't seen them for a while.
Uh, you step away from'em for aminute or go out of town or

(41:35):
whatever.
And, uh, and sometimes it's evenlater on, you know, the older
they get, they just, man, wheredid she come from?
She been here this whole timeand I hadn't noticed her.
Now look at her.
Things like that get me firedup.
Yeah.
I, I, I tend to agree, um, whenyou go through a herd of cows

(41:56):
and the amount of cows that yousee, because if your mind's like
mine, which I think all of uswho, who year to be better, all
of our minds and all of our eyesgo to the, the worst count in
the pasture.
I mean, that's always the one Inotice, and that's the one that
I is like, golly, I wish I couldmake her better, but.

(42:17):
That as I, whenever I go througha herd of cows and there's not
one in there that's like thatwhere it's like, oh, I wish I
didn't have her.
God, how great of a feeling isthat?
It's like I'm finally getting tothe point where I, I'm
eradicating problems enough towhere I can stand to go through
these cows because it'slegitimately, um, something that

(42:39):
with someone has that burningpassion.
It's something that I battle.
Um, right.
And then, and then time of yeartoo, like going through'em right
now when they have green grassand they're fattest ticks and
they're raising big calves, man,it's so, it's so rewarding right
now.
And you see, like, you see allyour work from getting'em
through the winter, getting'emthrough the hard years where we
had drought and we didn't haverainfall.

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And now seeing'em get to thispinnacle where we've had quite a
bit of rain and we've got quitea, we've got more grass than
we've had in quite a few years,and the cattle are doing so
well.
Um, yeah, you see that sort ofprogress too.
It doesn't even have to begenetic progress.
It can just be progress fromwhere we've been.
Yeah, so the part I liked aboutyou bringing that up is those

(43:23):
are qualitative, notquantitative things, and I hope
we don't ever get to a day whereeverything is quantified with
cattle, where I know the dayit's born, if it, I do an ear
punch on its ear, whatever, andshe's either good or she's bad
because she's either a nine orshe's an eight, or she's a seven
or she's a 10, or whatever youwant to call it.

(43:43):
Those qualitative things are thethings that allow the breeder to
put his or her stamp on it andallow the breeder to find that
satisfaction in working hard andmoving towards something.
And I just so appreciate thatprogress.
Comment, Vince, because I dofeel like here.

(44:06):
We see more of what we like thanof what we don't, which I find
that is progress because Iremember going out to those
fields and seeing more of whatwe were frustrated than with
what we liked.
Correct?
Correct.
What else you got Corbin?
Um, alright, so the, the firstthing that came to mind whenever

(44:26):
I said what gets my bloodpumping is weather.
And what, what that means is, iswhen we, when there's a
rainstorm coming, you know, youknow that feeling whenever
you're kind of like, you're in atough time and, and like it's,
you're starting to get close toa drought and there's some rain
coming.
And you're just like, you get soexcited.

(44:46):
You get so excited and thenyou're outside and you can smell
the rain and you know it'scoming and then it goes right
past you and it don't rain.
That, that, that happens.
So then, so then I, what's theopposite of your blood pumping?
I guess your blood just like,you know, it just kind of
tuckers out.
Like, oh, well I might, I mightjust pass out now because my
blood quit pumping.
But, uh, having weather thatthat's conducive to raising cows

(45:13):
is, is, is a fun time.
I mean, we've had a lot betterstart to our summer this year,
so it's just something that cameto mind for me.
Well, it is for me too,especially when you're raising
crops.
Um, man, I, I was talking to uh,um, Josh Moan the other day and
he said they haven't had anyrain.

(45:34):
Their corn looks terrible.
Hmm.
And um, you know, it's just.
Especially this year, we've hadso much rain, we're gonna have a
phenomenal corn crop.
And then, you know, you, youdrive right past these fields
and they got giant ears on'em,and you just kinda get excited.
And then, uh, I've been sprayingsoybeans the last few days for

(45:58):
fungicide and you know, youjust, they're so tall and you
hope they make pods and, um, youknow, same thing with hay and
pastures and, and all of it.
So, yeah, I can, I can relateto, to the, the rain.
The rain usually splits and goesaround us when we've been dry.

(46:19):
It, it takes a big deal tochange the, change the cycles.
For me it's the transitions.
It's like, uh.
If we've got everything bred andthen it's like, man, if we could
keep some of these halfway warm,early November, mid-November,
even October, kind of rainstormsthat are enough to get the grass

(46:43):
germinating, but not enough tomake it muddy and cals sick when
we're trying to AI breed.
And then it's those first daysand end of February, 1st of
March where I've told you guysbefore I add up the daytime high
and the daytime low.
And if it's over a hundreddegrees, we're growing grass and
I'll, I'll check that on myphone.
I'm like, okay, Wednesday we'regonna be growing grass.

(47:03):
Yep.
And why does that get my bloodpumping is because we get to see
that genetic expression thatwe've been breeding for for
generations.
Yes.
Because you can only see so muchexpression without the nutrients
for that to be expressed.
I mean, when it's dry and it'stough.
It doesn't matter how muchpotential you got bred into'em,

(47:24):
it's gonna be, it's gonna betough.
But good topic, Corbin.
Bring up the next one.
Um, let's talk about cattle withour prefix.
Joe, you had said that'ssomething that got your blood
pumping.
It's something that gets myblood pumping too.
I know it's something that getsVince's blood pumping too.
Oh dude.
Why is that the case though?

(47:44):
I mean, obviously, um, we allprobably have similar reasons as
to why that's how it is, but whyis that?
I think it's because it's mehedging.
It's the best hedge that I havein the business for these
commercial guys.
When I can look at a pedigreeand I could go, okay, you've got
92, 17 in there, 53, 41, 86, 16,42, 64.

(48:06):
I know that I've, I've hedged mybet that there's a high degree
of predictability that thesecattle are gonna go out and
perform for you the way thatI've sold them to perform.
And, um, so it gets my bloodpumping when I get that calf
that now, you know, we've got,I, I never told you guys this
until Torque's mother camealong, which she was purchased a

(48:27):
little bit later and then, um,put through the ringer of
production and then we decidedto flush her.
I can't remember if it was 2010, 20 11, I'd made a goal that
we were not going to have a bullin the sale that did not have
our prefix all the way back tothe bottom line.
And we print a three generationpedigree.
So every female on that linewould be brewing broom brewing.

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And that was something that Iwas, I had a lot of pride about
because, um, that could messageto our customers that we'd been
breeding for them for a longtime.
Well then torque's mother comesalong, uh, in production and
kind of set the whole thing onfire because she, her daughters
are the first ones of thebrewing prefix.
But now that we're a littlefurther down this road, 20 years
into the breeding program, we'restarting to see a lot of our

(49:13):
prefix on both sides of thepedigree and throughout both
sides of the pedigree.
And so, uh, that's just cool tome.
It's cool because I can.
Really tangibly understand therelationship that we had with
those animals here on BruinRanch that are represented in

(49:36):
the pedigree.
So you wanna go Corbin?
No, I want you to, um, so whenwe started, me and dad started
back in oh five and we werebuilding, I mean my, my first
goal was to start gettinganimals with our own prefixed.

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'cause you know, when you start,you gotta go out and buy
everything and then slowlybreed.
And then it was, my goal was toget, um, our prefix on the
bottom, not just on that animal.
And then it was to get it twogenerations on the bottom.
And then it was to get it likeyou're saying, three.

(50:19):
And now I get pretty fired upwhen I see.
A good one out in the pastureand I go look it up.
Oh, look at that thing.
I wonder what she is.
And you pull her up and she'soutta one of your bulls and your
prefix is on top and bottom.
So now you know that's, I neverthought that would ever be a, a

(50:42):
goal, but now that's getting tobe where, you know, uh, I want
it to be with, with, uh, ourprefix on the top hand, bottom.
And hopefully they'll be goodenough.
That's the whole thing.
I think as long as you justkeep, keep your quality where
you want it.

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It shouldn't matter if it's a AIsire or if it's one of your sis.
I think that's almost what makesit more exciting and what gets
your blood, gets my bloodpumping more, is that I do have
the belief.
That the sire that I own isgonna outperform a lot of the AI
sis.
A lot of the other stuff I, Ichoose to use, and that's enough

(51:26):
to get me excited again.
It's like, well, I knew it.
And now I'm proving it.
And so let's take it a stepfurther and then as, as I get
into the journey further andfurther, the excitement grows
even more.
And you think that your fire'sgone and then you look back and
you've got a four generationpedigree with your, and that
just fires you up.
Right?
You get, you never lose thatpassion if you have it, you

(51:47):
know?
Right.
But then I take the step, thenext step, Corbin, which I know
is on your list because I saidit, but it's cattle that do what
they say they should is when allof that stuff comes together and
you've got your blood pumpingand you're excited.
But then, like right now, thisafternoon, two hours ago, whyt
and I, I had to take him over tothis other ranch with me to pick

(52:09):
up out on our dry feed.
Right now there's cattle out onthe dry and not on irrigated.
And all the basic nutrient valueis, is kind of gone in some of
those fields.
So we have to startsupplementing with some protein
tubs.
And so we drove over to thisother ranch and he helped me.
Are you.
Oh, you're playing with apencil.
I thought you were raising yourhand.
No, sorry.

(52:30):
No, it's fine.
And so, uh, we loaded that upand I was like, oh, that
journeyman daughter's calvingand these are the first
journeyman daughters to calve.
And she had feet hanging out ofher and we're like, well, let's
go.
That ranch is about three milesaway, two, three miles.
So we grabbed the lick tub, wentand put it out with those other
cattle, went and checked somefence, fixed some hot wire.

(52:51):
I looked at my phone, I said,it's been 30 minutes.
He goes, well, let's go dosomething else.
So why didn't I drive down andwe go do something else?
About 45 minutes we came backand that heifer was standing
there whacking another heiferwho was over there being nosy
and that calf was nursing onthat cow.
And I was like, yes.
So yes, Corbin, I got my bloodpumping because that is

(53:13):
journeyman, which is top andbottom, and her mother is four
generations brewing all the wayback.
But it's even more excited nowbecause she did what she was
supposed to do.
Yes, absolutely.
At least for now.
Now, we'll, we'll test it againwhen she weans it, and then we
do the cycle all over again.
But man, it got me fired up whenI just said she just did what

(53:35):
she was supposed to.
It's the simple things, right?
It's the simple things.
What about, what about when you,you just, what you just said.
You, you go out there and yousee a cow cabin and you get so
excited just for the fact thatyou bred her and you've had to
wait 10 months to see whatyou're gonna get.

(53:55):
And I tell you, I get prettyexcited.
I have all these, I have aspreadsheet I keep in my truck
and we keep it in the barn ofwho's supposed to cal when and
what they're bred to.
So we can make tags when theycalve.
And, uh, every morning we go outand, um, check Calvin Cows, and
I'll forget that I bred thisone.

(54:19):
To this certain bull or acertain mating or whatever, and
I'm like, oh my God, I forgotall about that one and I'll get
so fired up and then you haulbutt out there just to see it,
you know?
And uh, yeah, those things likethat get my blood pumping for
sure.
And you're like, oh, it's ablack cap.
Yeah.
It don't have any wine on it.

(54:39):
Yeah.
Yes.
Hoop stepped through.
Uh, yeah.
So to even extrapolate furtheron, on you saying you bred one a
certain way and wait 10 months,what about those cows that peak
late?
What about those cows that youkinda, you know what, I'm
keeping her because she's a, agood looking heifer decent.

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Um, let's see what kind of cowshe turns into.
And then you look up six, sevenyears down the road and you've
got a cow that's, that'sphenomenal.
That's, and that's, um, turnedinto one of the best cows you
own.
And you didn't even have thatexpect expectation for her.
Yep.
We had, we have that.
You know, you, you find them andyou're like, who is that?

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And then you're like, oh, okay.
That's pretty cool.
She's looking, let's see whatshe's done.
You pull her up and she'ssitting at like six at 1 0 3,
and you're like, holy crap.
I didn't even realize this cowis doing it big time.
And that that, yeah, that candefinitely get you fired up.

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Yeah, I would say those onesthat surprise you and are,
there's certain cows that whenthey get 10, 11, 12 years old do
not look like old cows.
It's like they're still justhitting their stride and, and
some of these six and seven yearolds that still look like, you
know, second caver or something.
Yeah.
I mean, they just, it's likethey keep getting better every

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day of their life.
Those are the ones that get meso fired up.
I mean, I've told 86 16 now,she, she does not look her best
right now.
But when you say that cow's 17years old and you go look at
her, you're like, she's prettyall right.
She's pretty all right.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
That gives my blood pumping.
I, I think about that shadybrook cow that I've seen a

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couple times that Vincent alwaysjoke about'cause he got rid of
her, you know, but like that,that cow gets my blood pumping
because that's an aged cow.
She's an old lady and she isgorgeous and feminine in the
right kind.
Those get my blood pumping.
It gets my blood, blood pumpingeven more when I think about
what an idiot I was for sellingher.

(56:50):
Yeah.
But it brings to the next one,though.
It brings to the next one.
Corby.
Read.
Read my next point where ittalks about customer success.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's true.
So watching your customersucceed and, and obviously
obvious, obviously, he's gonnahave a testimony that says, Hey,
look what happened here.
Um, well, I know.

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At this point, I don't even careif he succeeds.
I just want my cow back.
Throw my stupid cow back.
Yeah.
That's funny.
And she's got a great freezeband.
A great freeze band you have tolook at.
She actually does have a greatfreeze every freaking time sends
a picture.
You gotta see it.
Goodness.

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No, it that's true though.
Like that can get you fired up.
It gives you such a feeling of,it gives me a feeling of
happiness that I something lefthere and winning another herd
and is helping them move to thenext level or helping them

(57:54):
succeed.
How about when you sell a bullto somebody that has 30 cows?
Then five years later they callyou and say, Hey, uh, that
bull's been great.
Um, I know we've talked a littlebit over the years, but uh, I
had, I hadn't bought a bull inthat time and, and he's doing
great and I'd like to haveanother one that gets me fired
up to know that a bull has goneout for that long, done his job

(58:14):
and then you're coming back tome for round two.
That fires me up as well.
Yeah, we didn't have that on thelist, Corbin, but I get those
all the time.
It's like that.
Well, I, I shouldn't say that.
That makes it sound so flippant.
I'm sorry.
It's, it's not that I get'em allthe time, but uh, they'll be
like, yeah, that bull I boughtin 21 or 22.
And you get out there and lookat the freeze brand and you're
like, dude, that bull is eight.

(58:36):
He is eight.
You did not buy him a coupleyears ago.
Yeah.
That gets my blood pumping whenthe cattle exceed expectations
and make people money.
Um, most people buy cattle for areason, and that reason is to
add value to their operation.
And if you meet those goals,man, that absolutely gets my

(58:57):
blood pumping.
What else you got?
Cor.
That's all that's on our list.
Do you guys have anything youwanted to add to it?
Well, I'll tell you what gets myblood pumping in the Angus
Association right now.
Ooh.
All the, that's a goodtransition.
All the new, look at that segue,cor, all the new, all the new
candidates that are popping upleft and right.

(59:20):
Yeah.
Just the interest of people, thepeople who want to be engaged,
the people who want to connectwith membership and, and people
who want to share their storyand, and think they have
something to add that gets myblood pumping.
Um, you know, I've said severaltimes here, people have called
me very flatteringly and I'mlike, I, I can't right now I've,

(59:44):
I've displaced way too much ofmy life away from my kids.
And how many crusades can a guygo on?
I mean, you gotta.
At some point when they turnaround, they're like, where's
dad?
Well, he is doing this becausethat's what people of high
integrity do.
Well, at some point dad has todevote some time to, to the
family, and I feel like I'vebeen falling short there.
And so thank you to the peoplewho have thrown their hat in the

(01:00:05):
ring to, uh, to seek a anelection to, to the board.
But, um, guys, do you want me tohandle it or Corbin do you wanna
say it?
Or, or Vince?
Um, I want to invite, formallyinvite, this is anyone who tends
to run or intends to run for theboard in 2025 to come on here

(01:00:30):
and chop it up with us aroundthe CH style.
So we'll ask about your programwhere it, we don't expect it to
be a grilling interview, butdon't also expect us to not ask
a tough question maybe.
Um, but we just want to visit,we wanna learn about you.
We wanna learn about youroperation, about your family,
about how you make decisions.

(01:00:51):
I think that we have a decentinformation blowtorch here, that
we cast across the Angus land.
And if we can help you shareyour story to potential
delegates, I think that'd belovely.
And so it's our goal, um, toreach out to as many of you as,
as we can.
And, and I chose my words verycarefully.

(01:01:13):
I did not say write in delegatesor, or candidates or new
candidates.
This is anyone that intends torun for the board in 2025.
We would like to extend theopportunity for those folks to
come on for a few minutes andtalk about why it is they wanna
be on the board and who theyare.
Yeah.
Is that okay?
Vince?
I feel like you have somethingto add'cause you're shaking.
No, no, no.

(01:01:33):
I, I think that that's, that wasperfect.
Um, come tell us why you thinkyou'd be a good board member.
Come tell us if you want to makea change, come tell us if you
think we're on the right trackand we just need to keep good
people on there to keep goingthe way we're going.
Who, I mean, whatever it is thatyou want to tell us, come on

(01:01:56):
here and tell us if you think,Joe, I think it'll be fun.
If you think Joe's hat's silly,then tell us.
Well, I'll wear a silly hat forsure.
Uh, but, but maybe they want toask us questions.
Um, maybe they do.
And absolutely I think it, Ithink it'll be fun and it'll be
light.
And you guys know we've beenvery guarded of who our first

(01:02:17):
guest is gonna be, who our firstguest is gonna be.
And I think if we're using thispodcast for good, which is what
our intention always was, thisis our opportunity from.
How we conduct a visit withfolks to just have a visit with
some potential board candidates.
Um, so Vince, you wanted to addsome other information?

(01:02:37):
People are gonna be listening tothis.
I, on the way to, I hope, I hopethat this is out for people to
listen to.
On the way to the TennesseeAngus Field Day.
I wanted to bring it up the lasttime and we got all wrapped up
in what we were talking aboutand about 10 minutes after we
got done recording, I was like,oh my gosh, I forgot to bring it

(01:03:00):
up and invite everybody out.
Um, the Tennessee Angus FieldDay will be held at ZWT on
Saturday, the second of, uh,August.
There'll be so much stuff goingon.
There'll be panels, there'll beprobably a guest speaker.

(01:03:21):
Two, there'll be stuff for thekids to do.
They're giving away a heifer.
Um, they're giving away somesale credits.
I think, uh, they're gonna havetours.
I'm actually gonna be one of thetour guides.
They're gi they're doing sometours.
I did I say giving away tours.
I didn't mean to say giving awaytours.
Good.
So you're charging for tours?

(01:03:43):
I'm charging for tours, yeah.
No, good.
They're, they're doing sometours and, uh, they'll have some
stuff on display and, um, it,it's gonna be a good time.
It's gonna be a good time.
I hope.
Did I see pictures for likebounce house or something like
that?
Maybe.
And I cannot say if there is onethat I may or may not get in.

(01:04:06):
What about a water slide?
Is there a water slide?
Ooh, I don't know.
There might be.
Tell you what, you put that bigfella at 118 heat index in a
bounce house and it'll become awater slide, I guarantee.
Yeah.
That, that it, it is been so, itis supposed to be in the low
eighties, I believe, though.
That might be nice.
Um, low eighties.
Yeah, that's not even in our twomonth forecast.

(01:04:29):
Yeah, actually we're supposed tobe in low and low to mid
eighties Friday for a week afterFriday, and I'm thinking about
weaning calves.
That's a good plan.
So I think you should, well, itjust depends if, if I wake up,
um, Thur, we're gonna, we'retalking about doing it Thursday
afternoon, so we'll look beforewe go gather pastures to make

(01:04:53):
sure that and change the weatheragain.
But, uh, no, it'll be, it'd begood times this weekend.
So I hope to see a lots of folksout there.
I know, golly, I think they'vehad 370 something people, RSVP
or something.
How many?
I think they said over 300.
What are they gonna feed you?

(01:05:13):
That was the thing he will wastalking about.
Um, they're not gonna haveenough food, so they had to
bistro, they had to do it again.
The bistro could not handle thisdeal.
Bistro, he couldn't handle thisdeal.
But no, it's, it's gonna be goodtimes.
I, I'm sure I left somethingout.
I mean, there's gonna be ajudging contest.
There's gonna be all kinds ofstuff for kids.

(01:05:34):
Hey, so Vince, I got a questionfor you.
Do you think there's, I thinkthis episode's gonna be pretty
clean if we don't have any screwups.
Could we let this thing fly onFriday?
Maybe, and then people couldhear this ahead of the field
day?
Maybe.
Very good.
Well guys, I'm gonna go checkheifers before it gets dark, if
that's cool with you guys.
I've had a wonderful time.

(01:05:56):
I think it was really fun andwe'll look forward to hearing
from some of these boardmembers.
A handful of them I knowpersonally and I could text or
call.
Um Yep.
But if you guys, listeners, uh,maybe reach out to those guys.
'cause not everybody,surprisingly enough, not
everyone listens to around theshoot.
What?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know, I know.

(01:06:17):
But, but seriously, listeners,if you are friends with someone
and you know they've declaredcandidacy or something, say,
Hey, you ought to go around theshoot, get ahold of Corbin
Corbin's gonna coordinate someof it, um, and write it down and
then get you scheduled in.
That's right.
We done.
Take it away, tumor.

(01:06:38):
We will see you next time aroundthe shoot.