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Jeff (00:07):
Welcome back to Art Supply
Insiders.
My name is Jeff Morrow andwe've got a really special guest
today.
This person was brought to ourattention and finding out that
she's a very popular YouTubeartist.
Her name is Laurel Beard.
Laurel is an artist, a cardmaker and a surface pattern
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designer, which I have no ideawhat that is.
So, Laurel, how are you doingtoday?
Laurel (00:35):
I'm good, thank you.
How are you?
Jeff (00:38):
Great, i am so excited to
talk with you because, you know,
since we were introduced, mywife and I have gone on YouTube
and I feel like I'm talking to astar.
So I'm kind of a starstruckhere.
Laurel (00:53):
you know I'm
YouTube-struck, so I'll pay you
for that later.
Jeff (01:00):
So tell me a little bit
about I mean mainly.
I think you're known for beinga card maker, i think.
Laurel (01:06):
I am.
Jeff (01:07):
So tell us a little bit
about how you got started.
Laurel (01:10):
Well, it's funny because
I didn't mean to get started.
So I have a 17-year-old son, sothis takes me back to how long
I've been doing it.
And I was at a play date whenhe was like two And this friend
of mine kept talking about howshe loves to stamp and she loves
to do stamping.
Well, i didn't know her enoughto be like what are you talking
about?
Like I'm thinking postagestamps, like you just lick it,
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stick it on an envelope and youcall it a day.
But I didn't know her enough tobe like girl.
So we got to become goodfriends and I went over to her
house and she had all this stufflaid out and she had this
really weird contraption on herdesk called a cutter pillar.
Cutter pillar.
I can hear a caterpillar, idon't even know.
Jeff (01:50):
Yeah, I've chatted with
them.
I know exactly who they are.
Laurel (01:53):
Yes, and I still have
that cutter pillar.
I bought it I remember buyingit off of eBay for 50 bucks and
I've had that for 17 years.
It's a manual die cuttingmachine.
Jeff (02:01):
That's a great product.
So when she started talking tome, about that.
Laurel (02:03):
Oh, i love it, i love it
.
And then she started showing meall these stamps and they were
like clear and then you ink themand then you stamp them, and so
all she used stamps for was tomake teacher gifts.
And then I just kind of fellinto this world of card making
with stamping and then diecutting, and then I got inks and
then I got paints and then Idid it.
And she is just baffled becauseshe just did the basics And
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then, because of meeting her andseeing these funny things and
trying to figure out what shedoes with postage stamps, led me
to this whole new world that Ididn't know anything about.
My son was like two at the time, so I was quite bored, so
that's how I got into it.
Jeff (02:45):
But this whole world of
card making had no idea it was
so big and I made the fatalmistake of telling my wife about
card making And a year later,after we have the cricket and
after we have the Gemini junior.
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Which I have now too, of course, and after we have all of those
things.
But gosh, there are so manypeople out there that make such
wonderfully sophisticated cards,right?
Laurel (03:20):
There are.
It's a whole world.
And I just worked off of mydining room table.
We never ate at the formaldining room.
I mean, get real, so all mystuff there and keep stuff in
crates.
And then finally I just Icouldn't stop buying stuff.
So I was like, ooh, sofortunately I'm able to have a
room of my own where I cancontain all of my mess.
But yeah, for years I justworked right off my table.
Jeff (03:41):
Yeah, i see that every day
.
So tell me, are you a formallytrained artist?
Oh no, oh no, no, no, how didyou?
I mean, for those of you youcan't see the same thing that
I'm seeing, But I'm looking at awonderful group of paintings on
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her back wall and they looklike watercolor paintings, is
that?
Laurel (04:05):
what I'm saying.
They are watercolor, that isAnd funny, and that my husband
is retired military.
So we did have to move around alot And the last place we were
stationed at was in New York AndI went on an online learning
platform and I just said I'mgoing to try to learn how to
watercolor, and so that's youknow.
Like last three years, i'vebeen trying to learn how to
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watercolor just from watchingYouTube videos and whatever.
Whatever I can find.
Jeff (04:32):
You know I've done oil
painting for a long, long time
And I tried watercolor paint,watercolor, watercolor,
watercolor painting andfrustrated the holy heck out of
me because I see an oil painting.
Laurel (04:49):
I'm the same with you,
but with oil painting I'm like I
stink at this.
I'm going to go back towatercolor Plus.
I can't clean my brushes andthe sink with water with oil
paint.
You got to go.
You know I'm lazy, i just wantto rinse and go Yeah, yeah.
Jeff (05:07):
So tell me a little bit
about how you evolved as a as a
card maker.
I'm sure it started out simpleAnd, before I give too much away
here, your cards are verysophisticated and you have a lot
of techniques.
Tell us about that evolution.
Laurel (05:25):
Thank you.
Well, i actually I started withI made these 3D cards.
I followed this one person andshe did all these folds and she
can make boxes, so I would doall these things And then
finally I was like this istaking too long, i don't want to
have to do this.
So I that's how I got intocrime.
I'm so lazy, so that's how Iactually started doing card
making.
And then, you know, i would buyfrom just this one company.
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When I first started off, solike 15 years ago, there weren't
, there wasn't what is available.
Now There was just very fewthings, or you could go to your
local craft store and pick upstuff there.
Now there's just too much,quite frankly, to choose from.
So that's how I got into cardmaking.
And there's there's a lot ofdifferent types of cards.
You can do mixed media.
You could do like lots oflayers and embellishments and
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glitters, but I again, am lazy,so I don't do all that And I
just sit down and play And if itturns out, great, if it doesn't
, i can flip the card over andstart over again and try again.
Jeff (06:21):
Well, let me just jump
right in Cause.
I think when I was talking toyou, i was talking to my wife
about you.
I use the word wacky And I meanthat.
I made that.
I mean she's just wacky.
This is the kind of person Iwant to hang out with.
That's because that's kind ofme And totally me.
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One of the first videos we sawand I don't know if you did this
recently or not was youactually used shaving cream to
make cards.
Oh, yes, how the hell, excuse myFrench do you use shaving cream
to make a card?
Laurel (07:04):
Oh, that's hilarious.
I don't even know.
I mean, it's been done before.
I'm certainly not an inventorof any of these techniques, but
I let my daughter wanted to makeI don't know.
I had an abundance of shavingcream, like I don't know why.
I can't remember maybe we madeslime with it or something.
I don't know what she wanted todo.
So we had all this shaving creamand I'm like, okay.
So I just Googled, like how canI use shaving cream on cards?
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That's all I did.
And then I figured out oh okay,so then I use my.
I use whatever I already had.
I already had the shaving cream.
It's funny, though, because Ididn't buy the scent free
shaving cream.
So the whole time I was makingthese cards, i was I mean so.
So if anybody ever does that,please get the scent free
shaving cream.
But that's how I mean I just Iusually just look around my room
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, i see what I have.
Then I go to the internet andlook for ideas, and that's so.
I just had all the shavingcream and I'm like I got to
figure out how to use it.
Jeff (07:53):
And that's how I tell them
brief.
It sounds like you're fearless,but tell them briefly how did
you use the shaving cream?
What actually did you do?
Laurel (08:02):
So what I did was you
almost create like this marbling
look, so you put like a blob ofshaving cream on a dish or
whatever.
You don't need things special,you just need shaving cream.
And then I have inquiry fillsfrom all of my inks that I use
for stamping And I just added acouple of drops into the shaving
cream And then I took my fingerand then just y'all can't see
me.
I'm sitting here, and then justkind of move my finger through
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the shaving cream If you like.
Don't like to get your fingersdirty.
Use a knife, use a toothpick,whatever.
And then, once you're done, youjust take your card stock and
then you just smush it onto theshaving cream, Just like again,
you can't see me, Just smush itdown.
I don't know any other word touse it.
You just smush it down and thenyou pick it up.
You let it sit for a coupleseconds, Then you take a paper
towel, you wipe off the shavingcream and then the inquiry
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filler whatever you're using isleft on the card and it makes a
marbling look.
That's it.
Jeff (08:52):
Well now, now this I'm
assuming that this is not a
porous card, I'm assuming thatit's got to be kind of non
porous, Yeah.
You have to have a shinysurface or something.
Laurel (09:03):
No, regular old, cheap,
cheapo card stock You can get
anywhere, anywhere, no special.
Like I said, all you need isshaving cream, some cheap card
stock and some kind of ink orsomething to drop in.
I think you could probably dofinger nail polish too, but I
didn't try that, so don't comeback at me for that one.
Jeff (09:24):
So you kind of let it dry
and then you use that as a
background.
Laurel (09:31):
That's my background for
my card.
Or I can use a die cutting LikeI have big chunky word die cuts
I'm a big fan of, because whenyou make a card, most of the
time I put a sentiment of somekind on it.
You can either stamp it or youcan die cut it.
And sometimes when I makebackgrounds and they're just too
much I mean that happens allthe time I'm like this is ugly,
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i don't like it.
You can take a die and split itall up and then you've salvaged
your piece and it's not in yourface design.
That's what I do with all thosebackgrounds.
Jeff (10:03):
But I just file them away.
Okay, for those of youlistening out there, everything
that Laurel is talking about,you can actually go to her
YouTube page and you can see herdo all of this with the
finished product.
So let's talk a little bitabout.
First of all.
You have a website, i'm sure,right?
Laurel (10:25):
I do, it's just
Laurelbeerorg.
Jeff (10:28):
And so that's
L-A-U-R-E-L-B-E-A-R-D dot org.
Laurel (10:35):
That's my website.
It's more of like it used to bea blog and I don't blog anymore
, So now it's just where some ofmy watercolor pieces are hosted
and stuff.
But if you're really wanting tolook at my card making, that's
all on my YouTube channel.
Jeff (10:52):
And they just go to Laurel
Beard and they just find you
there.
Laurel (10:56):
Type it in the group or
it's just Laurelbeerorg slash
videos.
Either one will take you there.
Jeff (11:03):
And I know that.
What I looked this morning andit said you've got 548 videos.
Is that right?
Did I get that?
Laurel (11:11):
right?
Oh do I.
That's what it said.
Don't look at my very earlyones now.
That's embarrassing.
I should probably pull thosedown.
Jeff (11:21):
No, you know why they
should is because everybody has
to start someplace.
Laurel (11:26):
They do Start to start.
Jeff (11:28):
Just start doing it, and
what they can do is that they
can see the evolution of yourart and your work from.
if you just keep going, theycould look at your path and how
you got from where you were towhere you are today, right, My
very first piece.
Laurel (11:46):
It's not on a video, but
it's basically.
I took a clipboard and I justglued a bunch of pattern paper
on the clipboard and gave it tomy teacher.
I thought I was hot stuff.
That is literally all I did AndI'm like oh, that is so
embarrassing That poor teachergot that but ugly clipboard.
but I thought it was somethingthat fit.
Jeff (12:04):
Hey, i mean you can go to
a museum and look at artwork on
the wall and it can have just ablue dot and it can sell for $14
million, oh yeah.
Laurel (12:16):
For sure.
I just went to an art museumwhen we were traveling and I
walked in there and I'm like andit was actually a watercoloring
museum, I can't remember wherewe were, sadly, That's sad And I
walked in and I'm just likereally Really, really.
Like this is frameable art.
that's thousands and thousandsof dollars, but hey, there's a
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market out there for everybody,i guess.
Jeff (12:38):
I know.
So another wacky thing at leastit was wacky to me is you
started talking about usinggelato and I'm going wait a
minute.
First time I had gelato is whenwe went to Monte Carlo a
million years ago.
Laurel (12:57):
Oh yeah, you had like
real gelato.
Jeff (12:59):
So I'm thinking you're
going to take this wonderful
food and use it for card makingAnd waste it on a piece of paper
instead of putting it in yourmouth.
Thank you.
Laurel (13:09):
That is so funny.
I cannot even for the life ofme I don't know how I picked up.
I might have been in Michaelsor something and I saw them.
I cannot remember how I gotthese, but I was one of the very
few people that was actuallyusing them on YouTube.
So then the company reached outto me and then they provided me
with their whole line ofgelatos.
So then I really startedplaying.
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But my little tagline wasgelatos, the calorie-free kind.
So they in any way.
but yeah, they're like theselittle.
they look like littlechopsticks.
They're like you just put it on.
you know, put it on, don't putit on your lips, but you just
they're like pigmented sticksand you can use them for
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watercolor, all kinds of things.
They're just fun littlepigmented sticks.
Jeff (13:55):
I don't know any other
word to describe it, but yeah,
As I was looking at it on thevideo, I think they're made by
Faber-Castell.
Laurel (14:03):
Yes, Faber-Castell.
Jeff (14:05):
And they're water-based.
Is that They're?
Laurel (14:07):
water-based so you can
watercolor with them.
You can actually take theselittle chapsticks and scribble
onto your stamp and then spritzyour stamp with water and then
it kind of turns it into awatercolor And then you stamp
that stamp and whoever think youget sends you that card is
going to think you hand-paintedthat card when you did Oh.
Don't spill the secrets.
Jeff (14:29):
I won't say a word.
I promise Because I don't wantmy wife to buy 457 different
gelato colors.
Thank you very much.
Laurel (14:38):
They come in different
sizes now, so she'll get the
little ones and the big ones.
Jeff (14:42):
Thanks so very much.
Laurel (14:43):
My pleasure.
Jeff (14:45):
So one of the things that
I said about you when I
introduced you is said that youwere a surface pattern designer,
and I had to say it slow so Ididn't butcher it.
Laurel (14:56):
What is a surface?
Jeff (14:58):
pattern designer.
What is that?
Laurel (15:00):
So that's new, because
eventually, when you do card
making for 15 years, you get alittle board.
So that's when I startedpicking up water coloring.
and then after that I'm like,well, i have this iPad Pro right
And I just watch movies on it,which is absolutely ridiculous.
You do not need an iPad Pro towatch videos, you can watch your
TV.
So I got this app calledProcreate and then again, the
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internet is a valid source and Iwas like what do I do with
Procreate?
And then I learned that I coulddraw all these designs.
And then you can take thesedesigns and you can upload them
to different sites like SocietySix, red Bubble, spoonflower,
and then they basically canprint your design onto coffee
mugs, tea towels, rugs, i meaneverything, pillows, the whole
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shebang.
So whenever you're walkingaround the store and you see
anything with art on it any kindof art, i don't care what it is
, it's a surface pattern.
Jeff (15:54):
So that's what it is.
So that's, you know, you justnamed two or three or four
different companies that youcould go to to do that.
Would you mind repeating thoseagain?
Sure, so that, because it kindof went by pretty quick and I'm
sure our audience has beenthinking about, i'd love to put
this on a coffee mug, absolutelyYes.
Laurel (16:15):
Well, really again Yes.
So the ones I use and recommendare Society Six, so Society,
and then Number Sixcom.
Jeff (16:24):
Okay.
Laurel (16:24):
Red Bubble.
Red Bubble.
And then Red Bubble.
It's a funny, and I mean youput these designs on shirts,
rugs, i mean I'm curtains,blankets, i mean everything.
I'm looking around my room andI have so much stuff everywhere.
And then the other one is SpoonFlower.
Now that is just like forfabrics, like you can put your
design on fabrics and textiles.
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But the Spoon Flower I mean,i'm sorry, society Six and Red
Bubble, you can put it onanything non-fabric and fabric.
And now I'm confusing everybodythat's listening.
Jeff (16:57):
No, you're not, Because
actually it kind of leads me as
I was going through your website.
you talked about that you havea new line at Spoon Flower.
Laurel (17:09):
That's the fabric line.
Jeff (17:10):
Yes, And tell us about
that new line.
What are you doing with that?
Laurel (17:16):
So it's funny Again.
I don't know what made me getinto that.
Like I say, I get bored and Ineed to find new things to
engage my mind, So I just satdown on my iPad and start now.
I have zero artistic ability asfar as drawing.
Jeff (17:32):
Oh, shut up, I'm looking
at painting.
Shut up.
I'm looking at all of the stuffbehind your on your wall, but
if I had a pen, i couldn't havedrawn that I.
Laurel (17:44):
There's no way I can
even draw a circle.
That's symmetrical, it'spitiful.
But with the iPad you can justscribble it all on there and
just erase.
You know, whatever, if you holdthe pen down, it makes the line
straight for you.
There's so many hacks in thisprogram that's like available on
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your iPad, so I just played it.
When you're on a plane, anyplace you don't have Wi-Fi, it's
great to just scribble becauseyou're bored.
Anyway, you got.
You're not connected to theworld because you're flying and
you're just like this is boring.
You can just like startcoloring.
So anyway, i made all thesefabrics.
I had no idea how to make acollection, so I just figured OK
, well, i'll just make sure thatall the colors match.
This is literally how I wentinto this And then I put them
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all.
I said, ok, they look like theykind of coordinate.
And then I put them on a spoonflower.
That was it.
That was it.
Jeff (18:33):
Wow, but you know what
This is.
This is really interestingbecause what you're doing is
you're talking about how mostsuccessful artists create their
unique vision.
Yeah, is they're just notafraid to try stuff, right?
Laurel (18:54):
That's true, That's true
, And I'm not a planner like by
any means.
And if it came down to becausewhen I first started doing it
like really getting into carmating, getting in my YouTube
channel became successful, myhusband was like, can you find a
way to make money?
Well, no, he didn't get a joband I'm not going to do it
anymore.
And so he would get soirritated with me because I buy,
just like you and your life.
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I keep buying all this stuffbut I'm not bringing in any
income.
But I never.
If it's work, i don't.
It's not fun, it just sucks thecreativity out of me.
So I just kind of go with theflow And if I like it, i like it
.
If I don't, then I don't do itanymore.
That's it Wow.
Jeff (19:32):
And that's probably not a
good way to do things, but well,
no, it actually is probably thecredo of every artist that I've
ever talked to, because artistsin general get bored quickly.
Laurel (19:47):
Yeah.
Jeff (19:48):
And that's why they keep
trying it, and that's why they
keep pushing the edge and theykeep trying new things.
And they look over here andthey go oh, there's a tube of
lipstick.
What can I do with that?
Laurel (19:58):
Yeah, what can I do with
that?
That's right.
Jeff (20:01):
Right.
Laurel (20:02):
Yeah, That's exactly.
I've actually used a tube oflipstick on a card.
Jeff (20:05):
Oh, you have.
Laurel (20:07):
I mean, it didn't look
great, but I tried it.
Jeff (20:12):
And that's the thing you
know.
it's kind of I don't know whatthe ratio is.
Maybe it's five to one, Maybeit's try five new things to find
one new creation.
Laurel (20:20):
Yeah.
You know, Somebody inventedsomething, any.
I mean, all of my techniquesare not like I didn't invent
them, but I'm putting my owntwist on them, if that makes
sense.
But somewhere someone out therecame up with using a shaving
cream on card It wasn't me, butsomeone did And so I took it and
just rolled with it and had hada good old time.
So I don't think it's copying,i don't think it's cheating.
(20:42):
I mean, sometimes artists havethat, what's it called, imposter
syndrome.
Jeff (20:46):
Yes, i think it's called
And.
Laurel (20:47):
I don't if you're
copying it like verbatim, like
every color, every line, then,yeah, you know you shouldn't do
that, but you know, all thesepieces that you can't see, for
the most part are from a picturethat either I took or I found
on the internet or something,and then I just did it with.
you know, however, i would doit.
You know what I'm saying.
So, yeah, it's almost like youcould.
Jeff (21:09):
You could paint the Mona
Lisa, but in your style and your
style And then it's uniquelyyours, right, right, and that
stuff you can sell, that stuffyou can do.
We all know that it's probablythe Mona Lisa, but you've made
it into a the Mona Lisa looklike a tree.
Laurel (21:31):
Well, that's right,
right Right.
That's not equal.
Somebody should do that.
Yeah, somebody should totallydo that.
I'd love to see that.
So, as I like it more as Ilooked at your website.
Jeff (21:46):
you have a lot of content
on your website.
There are classes that peoplecan take, You've got freebies.
You've got blogs.
You send people to your YouTubepage.
You have even a store thatpeople can purchase a lot of the
art that you've done.
Just talk a little bit aboutall of that.
Laurel (22:07):
Well, it came down to,
like I said, i was a blogger for
a very long time And I justlost the appeal to blog.
You go through all the effortof making your video and your
tutorial and then you got to gowrite it all out.
I'm like, nope, if you want towatch it, just watch my video.
So I ended up taking my blog.
I've already paid for it forlike five years, so like I got
to revamp it into something.
(22:28):
So I just went on to FiverrFiverr, i don't know how you say
it F-I-V-E-R-R And I foundsomebody.
I was like turn my blog into ae-commerce site, And they just
did it for me because I don'tknow how to do it.
And now that's where it's likemy portfolio almost, Because if
you want to look at something,you don't have to go find a
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video, scroll, watch the wholething just to find a quick
picture or a screen grab ofsomething.
So I try to put all of myfinished arts, not my cards,
unfortunately.
I should do that, though.
Jeff (22:58):
Yeah you should.
You should do that, i shouldYeah.
Laurel (23:02):
Because, yeah, so I
should do that.
Just, it's like a portfolio forme, You know.
Jeff (23:07):
Well, it's very impressive
.
She has this wonderful way ofdoing watercolor animals.
Laurel (23:17):
Yes, i learned that from
yep.
I was Skillshare.
I don't know if anybody's heardof Skillshare, but somehow I
came across them.
They're actually one of mysponsors standard sponsors from
my YouTube video.
It's called Skillshare and it'sa.
It's a learning platform, butwhen I was watercoloring, i
would always watercolor flowers.
Well, quite frankly, i'm reallynot that good at it.
(23:37):
That's why you can't see anyflowers in the background.
Jeff (23:38):
Yeah.
Laurel (23:39):
So then I don't know,
somehow I stumbled across this
lady Her name is Jane Davies,and she had painted a horse or I
don't know what it was.
I'm like ooh.
And she has like 20 videos onthere of stepouts on how she
paints watercolor animals.
So I took all of her classesand and now I know how to do it
In my own way.
She does it her own way.
(23:59):
She's got a great spin on it.
I can't do it her way, So I doit my own way.
But if it wasn't for her, Idon't know if I'd be able to
watercolor animals.
Jeff (24:07):
So I think we could make
you the poster child for not
being intimidated by anything,by just literally Try it What's?
Laurel (24:17):
the worst you may like
it, you might lie.
I always just say, for the mostpart I'm a paper crafter, even
watercoloring.
Everything's paper Like it'sjust paper.
If you don't like it either,throw away.
Jeff (24:29):
You know, stuff away.
Laurel (24:30):
It's okay, people, it's
really okay or flip it over and
do another side.
Jeff (24:33):
I throw it away and start
over, but there's over that run
it through your, your Gemini Jr,and you know, cut a kid, cut a
pattern out of it, and now, allof a sudden, somebody thinks
you're brilliant.
Laurel (24:48):
Yes, that's true, that's
true.
I do that a lot because whenI'm pick, when I'm making my, my
recent like in the last yearsare They're usually a bunch of
doable cards.
doable, i want to say doable,because I, i Want, i don't want
people to think they need asrocket science degree to make a
card.
No it needs to be Stepouts.
(25:09):
You and I'm all about usingwhat you have.
I've already been through it.
You, you and your wife havebeen through it where you go buy
everything under the sunBecause you want to design like
that person, but you can buy allthe same products and it's
still not come out the wayNecessarily that you want it to.
So I'm just like man You needsome ink, you need some paper,
maybe an acrylic block, andyou're good to go.
You don't need to buy a wholeroom full of stuff, you know so.
(25:32):
I always try to use what I have.
A lot of my stuff is is is old,it's retired, that's okay, i'm
still gonna keep it.
I like it.
Get rid of it just because it'snot available anymore.
There's probably a Somethingsimilar out there, but I like
what I have.
Jeff (25:51):
So for those of you that
are listening, you can tell that
Laurel is the type of personthat you'd really like to be
around.
I mean, just talking with youMakes me smile in and I got.
I got that same feeling when Wewent to your YouTube channel.
(26:14):
Now you're gonna cost me money.
Thank you very much, because mywife is gonna watch you and And
all of a sudden I'm gonna haveshaving cream cream missing.
Laurel (26:26):
Yeah, go, take your
husband shaving cream.
Don't go by.
No, don't go by no one.
Jeff (26:30):
Yeah, and, and I'm gonna
go and get a gelato.
The next thing I know it'sdisappeared and smudged all over
a piece of paper.
Please, please, please, go toLaurel Beard.
What was it?
Laurel beard org?
You know?
(26:50):
real quick, tell them the kindof freebies that you have on
your website.
Oh.
Laurel (26:55):
Yeah, I am.
Years ago I discovered Canva.
Jeff (26:59):
Yeah, like yeah.
Laurel (27:00):
I, yeah, i love that
site.
I'm like hello, so I make awhole because they made it so
easy.
Now I make a whole bunch ofdownloads, worksheets, freebies,
all Designed on Canva.
So because they make it so easy, i easily make it and I offer
it up for free.
Yeah different things.
They might relate to a videothere, they might be just Out
(27:20):
the top of my head, whatever.
Jeff (27:23):
Yeah, and, and there
really isn't any downside to
doing it's not like you taketheir, their information and
sell it or anything like that.
This is just just a freebiewhere you say, hey, check it out
right.
Laurel (27:36):
It.
Usually it requires your emailaddress for me And that will
enroll you in a newsletter thatI provide like once a month, if
that.
But if you don't, you know, ifyou don't want to be on my
newsletter, then after youdownload it, just unsubscribe,
just like do it right then andyou'll never ever hear from me
again.
I don't want to talk to peoplewho don't want to hear from me,
so I I know that whatsoever, i.
Jeff (27:59):
Told you just before we
started this interview that the
time was gonna go by fast,didn't I?
I know I didn't believe you andWe're almost a half an hour in
and we could probably Talkanother 30 minutes about all
sorts of different stuff.
So you know, maybe you wouldconsent again to sometime in the
(28:22):
future Talking with us again.
For sure, for sure, i love toyou are.
You are an absolutely Wonderfulperson to chat with.
You are a very good andaccomplished artist and I can
now say that I've asked you foryour autograph and you know,
(28:43):
like a signed glossy orsomething like that And I know,
i know a genuine YouTube star.
Laurel (28:50):
Oh, you're the sweetest.
Again I'll be there.
Jeff (28:55):
Thanks so much for joining
us today.
Laurel (28:57):
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
Jeff (28:59):
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