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February 14, 2025 33 mins
In this episode, ArtsAbly is in conversation with Precious Perez, a blind Latin artist based in Kentucky. She is also the current President of RAMPD, Recording Artists and Music Professionals with Disabilities. During the interview, Precious Perez mentions a certain number of resources that are listed on ArtsAbly’s website, in the Blog section. Access Precious Perez’s resources You can activate the transcripts in the podcast player, or you can find the text version of the transcripts here: access the TXT version of the subtitles. You can follow this podcast on diverse platforms. More information in our Podcast section. Follow us or subscribe to be notified wen new episodes become available. If you would like to watch the video of the interview, with both closed captions and transcripts, it is available on YouTube: watch the video interview of Precious Perez. The podcast is also available on Spotify and Apple Music This podcast could not exist without our listeners. Consider supporting our work with a coffee on Ko-fi or a donation: visit our donation page.
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(00:01):
♪ Opening theme music ♪
Hello, and welcome to this episodeof ArtsAbly in Conversation.
My name is Diane Kolin.
This series presents artists, academics,and project leaders who dedicate their

(00:25):
time and energy to a better accessibilityfor people with disabilities in the arts.
You can find more of these conversationson our website, artsably.com,
which is spelled A-R-T-S-A-B-L-Y dot com.
♪ Theme music ♪

(00:55):
Today, Artsably is in conversation
with Precious Perez,
a blind Latin artist based in Kentucky.
You can find the resources mentionedby Precious Perez during this episode
on ArtsAbly's website in the blog section.
[Excerpt of Agua de Valencia by Precious Perez]
[Instruments playing a soft intro for a few seconds before Precious Perez starts singing in Spanish.]

In the video, a screen shows (01:22):
Agua de Valencia, for Shane Lowe, Valencia and Puerto Rico.
Lyrics in Spanish:
Cuando te pregunto, siempre estás ahí
para validar mis sentimientosy aleja el dolor.

(01:44):
Sabes encantadocomo un poción mágica
con cada sobrotú me dibujas.
Agua de Valenciaeres mi preferencia.
Cada momento contigo sesiente como una luna de nieve.

(02:04):
Agua de Valencia, Agua de Valencia,
Agua de Valencia.Tú eres mi preferencia.
Ciento años, cuánto te he conocido.
La misma cantidad de tiempoes cuánto tiempo te amaré.
Me enamoré de mi mejor amigo.

(02:35):
Agua de Valenciaeres mi preferencia.
Cada momento contigo sesiente como una luna de nieve.
Agua de Valencia, Agua de Valencia,
Agua de Valencia.Tú eres mi preferencia.

(02:56):
[Instruments playing the bridge.]
[End of the excerpt.]
Welcome to this new episodeof ArtsAbly in Conversation.
Today, I am with Precious Perez, who isa blind Latin artist based in Kentucky.

(03:16):
Welcome, Precious.
Thank you.So great to be here.
And great to see you.
I'm very excited to receive you today.
Okay, so I always start my episodesby asking a little bit about
the background, the story of my guest.
What is your story?
What led you to music?

(03:38):
Did you have a particular familywith musicians inside?
Tell me about how you got to music.
Absolutely.So I'll go backwards.
As you said, my name is Precious.
I am a Latin music artist

(04:01):
and music educator, songwriter,
disability advocate, author and actress.
So I do a lot of different things.
And I also serve as President of RAMPD.
And I'm sure we'll getto that at some point.
Oh yes!
I really knew from a really young agethat I wanted to do something with music.
My mom always had all kinds of music playing in the background since I was little.

(04:25):
And when I was about six yearsold, I was like, maybe I can sing.
I want to sing.
And so I was painfulIy shy as a kid.
But I started on my little Barbiekaraoke machine by myself in my room.
And then a music class really openedthat door for me in elementary school.
And then I was in chorus.

(04:47):
And then I really startedto songwrite in middle school.
And in high school,I took a lot of different classes,
like music production, and guitar,and piano, and
finally figured out in my junior yearof high school exactly what I wanted
to do, because I didn't realize you couldmajor in different aspects of music.

(05:10):
I thought music was a general thing,and then you had to pick another subject.
And so I was like, I'll justdo English and music because
I loved English, not necessarilyanalyzing literature, but I loved words
and creative writing, and I still do.
So poetry became songs for me.

(05:30):
I was able to turn my lovefor poetry into music and lyrics.
And so I decided that I was goingto major in music education
and performance so that I could havea fallback that I also loved
if performing full-time didn't work out.
And so I ended up choosingBerklee College of Music,

(05:52):
and I studied music ed and performance,
graduated in the spring of '22.
Everything got deferred in Decemberof 2021, so I just walked in the spring.
And after that, I really was finding myway and deciding what was going to work

(06:14):
for me, what wasn't going to work for me,trying different things, trying this job
and that job and finding the right fit.
Eventually, I just finally got the courageto open my LLC for music and just
start doing everything I possibly could,
from acting to writing to voice lessons

(06:37):
to teaching, and of course,performing and songwriting and creating.
And so that led me to where I am nowworking on a bunch of different projects
because the freelance life is notfor the faint of heart.
And so I do a lotof different things that I feel really

(06:59):
aligned with my passion overall.
And it's really exciting, andit can be terrifying at the same time.
Yes.
So as a music educator,where do you teach?
So right now, I teach voice lessonsat a local music store.
So I actually was originally from Boston.

(07:20):
My parents are Puerto Rican,but I grew up in Boston, Massachusetts,
and specifically Chelsea, which is likea little town north of Boston.
And then I got married in 2022and moved to Louisville, Kentucky.
So that's where I live now.
And so I teach at a local music storecalled Mom's Music.

(07:41):
And I have one student there.
I have another online studentat a company called Music for Humans.
And then I do music enrichmentfor a daycare that I used to work at.
I do that two hours a weekwith three and four year olds.
And it's a lot of just singing and playingwith puppets and doing song games that

(08:04):
help them develop their rhythm and theirpitch and singing and all of that stuff.
It's so much fun.
I get so much joy from it.
Yeah, I can imagine that.
As a musician with multiple stringsand multiple instruments, multiple
possibilities, what you chose...

(08:25):
I frequently see you with a ukulele, right?
Yes.
Tell me about that. Why did you choose...
Finally, that's like, Okay, we're goingto do ukulele and singing, and that
works perfectly as a combination.
Yeah. So, I have always tinkered around
with different instruments, so piano, a little bit of guitar, a little bit of...

(08:47):
And with music education, you haveto learn the foundations of being able
to play a lot of different instruments.
For a while, I played the French hornand the flute and the clarinet.
I did flute in middle school,so I've always loved the flute.
But man, trumpet was the hardest, and
violin, all these different instruments

(09:09):
I've been able to interact with.
But nothing came as naturallyto me as when I picked up a ukulele.
That happened when my freshman yearof college, one of my roommates had one,
and I was like, maybe I can learn this.
And I found this YouTube channelcalled The Ukulele Teacher, and he's
very descriptive, which is really helpful for me because I can't see what someone's doing.

(09:31):
So he tells me, put your ring fingeron the third fret of the second string.
I'm like, okay, I can do that.
And so I learned howto play songs that way.
And little by little, that built up myknowledge of how to play different chords.
And so because it's so portableand it felt really comfortable
for my hands to play.

(09:52):
It just became what I gravitated to.
And so I can play a little guitarand piano, but my favorite
and the thing I accompany myselfthe most with is the ukulele.
When you were in Berklee, did youdecide to record some or to video
record or to record some audios
to put your work online?

(10:15):
Did you try that alreadyin Berklee or did it come after?
I actually released my first albumduring my freshman year at Berklee,
and that was with the helpof my high school music teacher,
his name was Pete Papavassiliou, andproducer Doug Batchelder,
who was his friend and somebodythat is now one of my dear friends.

(10:39):
It became a dream that was achieved
through a kickstarter campaign because
one day he pulled me aside and was like,hey, I think you have a gift.
I can help you make an album.
Is this something you're interested in?
And of course, I had over100 songs written by then.
I was like, yes, absolutely.Let's do it.
And so I was able to record it,and they did a lot of the arranging

(11:03):
and everything else.
That was my first body of work that wasever released during my freshman year.
Then following that, I studied abroadin Valencia the first half of
my sophomore year and really became inspiredby my time there to write more.
I wrote an EP that eventuallygot produced by Doug as well,

(11:27):
and we put out into the world in 2019.
I just kept building from there.
Some things I tried my handat producing myself at home and
released a couple of things that way.
And then that built up tolast year when I got to work with
a phenomenal label called We Could Be Music, based in Costa Rica.

(11:50):
And we released three singles, twoof which they pitched to me based on
my vision, and we worked on together,and one of which I wrote.
And It really...
The music that I created with themand that I'm working towards making now
is really fully in the Latin space andexactly where I've always wanted to be.

(12:13):
And so I feel like my body of workthat's already out represents my growth,
and you can definitely see itfrom the beginning to now.
It's really fun to look back on.
What are the titles of these releases?
So, Hummingbird, my very first album.
The title track is alsocalled Hummingbird, and that song is...

(12:34):
I call it my flagship career songbecause it's timeless in the sense
that no matter where I am in my life,I can play it and I still almost cry.
It seems to have reallytouched a lot of people every time
that either I play it in a bandor I just perform it anywhere.
It's really one of my most favoritesongs I've ever written.

(13:01):
My next EP after that is called Agua de Valencia, for Valencia, Spain.
It's named afteran alcoholic beverage that I loved.
One of the songs is also titled that.
Then I released a children's EP in 2020.
That was a random inspired by the children in my life, my stepson,

(13:23):
my little cousins, my brother, all of that.
I just was working on some music education things,
and In my music Ed guitar class,
my teacher challenged me to write songsso that I could get more comfortable
playing the guitar chords,and that came out of that.
So it was really fun to havethat come to fruition.

(13:45):
And what's hilarious to me is thatthe number one song on my Spotify
continues to be Dinosaur Lullaby.
It doesn't matter what other songsI've released and that they have
more traction or anything.
That one has maintained the top spotfor years, and it makes me laugh.

(14:07):
I'm waiting for someoneto request that at a show one day.
And then I've released between thena couple of singles and a cover,
and then my three singles,my three Latin singles last year.
Those are called Sin Preguntar,and Melanin Queen, and Rosé.

(14:30):
Okay.
Thank you.
Yeah, of course.
When did you meet RAMPD for the first time?
I got involved with RAMPD very early on.
It was somewhere, I think it was right acouple of months before official launch.
I got involved with RAMPDin September of 2021, I believe.

(14:55):
I was just so thrilled to be partof an organization that
was doing the work that I'm sopassionate about because my entire goal
with my art is to represent and uplift allof my communities and to really show
the world that,hey, people with disabilities are people,
and we're here, and we're successful,and we're powerful,

(15:16):
and we deserve to be celebrated.
And that coupled with beingreally proud about being Boricua.
And I'm just like, yes, I'm here.
I'm Hispanic, and I'm proud of it.
And all of these different things,being a woman, having anxiety
and depression, all these differentintersections that I represent
just really being open and authentic.

(15:38):
And so when I heard about RAMPD,I was immediately like,
I need to be a part of this.
This is what I want to do.
This is work I want to be doing.
And so I became one ofthe members that got called
in the first class of membership.
And then from there, I became the co-chairof the Memberships Committee, which is

(16:02):
now called Engagement, and transitionedto VP, and I now serve as President.
Wow.
Yeah, it's a fantastic organization.
I know people who watch thisor watch or listen to this podcast,
they hear a lot about RAMPD.

(16:26):
Absolutely.
Actually, before we started recording, we were mentioning that you
were gracious enough to participatein one of the shows that I organized
with my music school a few years ago.
Yes.
It was fun.
I think you just becamepresident at this point.

(16:48):
No, or VP?
I think it might have been VP.
Yeah.
I think you're right.
Actually, the school also providesthis variety of music from the early
musical beginnings to teenagers.
When you participated, it waslike trying to engage the teenagers.

(17:10):
Actually, we had a lot of questions.Oh, yeah, that's cool.
That's awesome.
I was very happy thatyou participated in that show.
That was a lot of fun.
I'm glad you back today.
So what is...
As a RAMPD member, I think we share that,

(17:31):
the fact that we have opportunities that are
offered through RAMPD.
Absolutely.
What are your interesting projects thatyou worked with that you got through RAMPD?
Absolutely.I've gotten a few inquiries through RAMPD.

(17:53):
RAMPD, just as a quick overview, we promote inclusion, amplify disability culture,
and advocate for inclusiveand accessible spaces in the industry.
And so a lot of what we do is weprovide inclusive tools and strategies
to the music industry, but alsowe have a network of peer-vetted
musicians, music professionals,songwriters, everything under the sun.

(18:19):
And all of these creatorsand professionals are musicians
with disabilities and chronic conditionsand mental health conditions.
And it's really a space for anyonewith any disability or neuro divergence
or chronic conditionto be represented, uplifted, and also
to gain opportunities and reallygrow and excel in their career.

(18:41):
And so I've had the opportunity to speak on different panels such as Folk Alliance,
to perform at different places.
It's just amazing to seeeverybody in the community just
not only coming together to celebrate eachother, but also elevating ourselves

(19:03):
at the same time,because RAMPD as a whole is a community,
and community is so, so importantin any industry, in any field.
It's just incredible that we have thisspace and we've been able to create
and build this space for each other,but also for the industry to come to

(19:25):
and really have a source for informationabout disability,
where to find disabled creators,how to uplift and celebrate,
how to accommodate, all of these differentaspects that are so, so important.
Yeah, and the behind the sceneis really important.
I remember the first yearswhen we started working with

(19:45):
the Grammys and educating them.
Lachi and Gaelynn Lea have been strugglingwith that at the very beginning, the way
that the Grammys was maybe envisioningsome things that were improved
by the communication with RAMPD.
Absolutely.

(20:06):
It's amazing to see all these partnershipswe have and the Grammys just every year
getting stronger and better.
Being able to be a partof that is just so incredible.
It's amazing to watch it happenand to be a part of it and celebrate it
because it's changing the way

(20:27):
that things are in a positive way.
And positive change isreally what we strive for.
Positive inclusion, working togetherwith communities and with the industry
to improve things for everyoneis just what we're here for.
Yeah, and also being present on the stage,
being here in the mainstream media, being

(20:53):
physically and mentally presentwhere the music happens.
Representation, for sure.
I saw an interesting video of oneof your concerts at the Kennedy Center.
Could you talk about this experience?
Absolutely.
I performed at the Kennedy Center.

(21:15):
Was that 2022?
Yes, 2022.
2023? 2023.
[Laughs.]Time? What is time?
But it was amazing.
I got to bring some of really goodfriends and bandmates with me.
I have different peopleI play with for different things.

(21:37):
So I currently play in a local cover bandin Louisville called Sight Unseen.
And they play with me sometimeswhen I have solo gigs.
But then I have other musicians that arereally good friends that are also in
a band of their own, but they back me up.
And so I was able to bring themwith me to the Kennedy Center.
And it was incredible just beingon that stage,

(21:58):
having the crowd just really engaged and
having that opportunity and now
having that memory and that archiveand that show to look back on and be like,
wow, I wouldn't be here without RAMPD.
And that's the reality.
RAMPD has changed my career for the

(22:19):
better in my life and really given me
so much perspective and so many friendships that are really, really amazing.
And I've met so many amazing people through RAMPD and these are the kinds of things
that happen when we band together,participate, uplift each other, and
do this work to really make that impact.

(22:43):
You already answered this question,but I want to go back to one of the things
that we do sometimes in RAMPD is to gettogether and have these awesome
conversations aboutmodels of disabilities and how uplifting,
we should have some conversations in disability culture.

(23:06):
My work in music and in what I'm doing
in academics and in what I'm doing in
my life every day is to discuss what itmeans to have an accessible environment.
I would like to know what it is for you to
work in disability culture and to work

(23:29):
in a better accessibility in the arts.
Absolutely.
So I believe that disability cultureshould always be celebrated and uplifted.
And I think that disability inclusionis working together and best achieved
through positive conversationand a communication.

(23:51):
So for example,if there is a situation that I'm in where
something in the venue isn't accessibleto me or I need assistance with something,
I would communicate that to my pointof contact and say, Hey, this isn't
great for me or for my audience.
Here's a suggestion of howyou can improve that so that this can

(24:13):
be optimized and better for the future.
And as long as those people are empathetic
and willing to do everything in their power
to be accommodating, that's thefirst step, and that's what's important.
Because there are a lot timeswhere we talk about the ADA,

(24:35):
and we talk about venue accessibility,and we talk about RAMPD in those contexts,
and RAMPD is not here to enforce the ADA,to sue anybody, to do any of that stuff.
RAMPD's mission is to reallycreate inclusion and inclusive spaces
through education,communication, and conversation.
And so positive,really, communication in general

(25:01):
and teachable moments are really, for me,how I can help
celebrate and uplift disability cultureand really just being myself,
like living my life,showing a little bit of my world and being
really authentic at who I amand being proud and celebrating
who I am in every aspect of that.

(25:24):
We are all in disability culture, and everybody's going to be a little different
because people in generalare different, and everybody's needs
are different, and everyone'sthoughts are a little different.
But the reality is thatdisability culture is our story.
Disability is the one minorityleft out of diversity conversations.

(25:48):
And it's the one communityanyone can join at any time.
Someone could fall, havean injury, and become disabled.
And so really, there needs to be so muchmore just openness and education
about disability, and that'swhat I strive to do through my art
and through my content, is to reallyspearhead that in, specifically,

(26:10):
the Hispanic community,because disability is something
in the Latin communitythat is rarely talked about.
And so opening those doorsand having those conversations is so,
so important in order to createthat change and that awareness.
Yeah, and being a disability rights activist is also educating people

(26:34):
because at the end, they don't know.
We were raised altogether in a societywhere disability is following
the medical model where that'ssomething also we discuss in RAMPD that is
a bit complicated,but the idea of different models

(26:57):
that define the society today and disability is
not included in the society itselfor rarely included because the world
itself was built for able bodies,people who are not disabled.
It's hard sometimes, but by educatingpeople, I believe, I'm like you,

(27:20):
I believe that educating people isthe key of disability rights activists.
Absolutely.
Through creativity and art and music,
that is a way to bridge gaps through anything.
And so by being on these stages, beingin these rooms, being in these spaces,

(27:41):
is also a form of celebratingand educating, just by being there.
That's why representationis also so important.
Yes, definitely.
I wanted to know if you are workingon any specific projects right now

(28:04):
that you could maybe develop?
Right now, I'mworking on booking more local gigs.
Here in Kentucky, because a lot ofthe performance and other opportunities
I've received are all over the country,but not yet so many locally.
I play with my cover band,excited to do more of that this year,

(28:27):
work on getting more gigs,I'm working on getting some brand deals.
That would be really awesome.
But the thing I'm most excited aboutis the Latin project I'm working towards.
So I'm working towards a Latin EP,
really building my catalog of music
in Spanish and really solidifying where Isit in this space in these intersections.

(28:53):
And so that's something I'm working on andworking towards, and I'm really hoping
for it to come to fruition this year.
So I'm excited about that.
Well, that seems good.
This project is an EP?
It's an album?
It will be an EP.
Okay.

(29:13):
Yes.
We I do not know more for now.
Not yet.
[Laughs.]
I'm a bit curious as you can see.
[Laughs.]She's like, Tell me more.
Tell me more.
Okay, thank you.

(29:33):
Well, we will wait impatiently.
Okay, so I have a last questionto conclude this interview.
It's about people who might havea specific particular place in your life,
in your career, people who have guidedyou, who have motivated you.

(29:58):
If you think of these peoplein your life, who would it be and why?
Oh, my goodness.
All I can really say isthat it takes a village.
There are so many peoplethroughout my life that have
inspired me and got me where I am,and I wouldn't be where I am or who I am

(30:19):
without them, without my family,my friends, my mentors,
my RAMPD community, my bandmates,
anyone I've played with, worked with.
Just there's so many, and I never wantto name people because then I don't want
to forget somebody because I'm blessedto say that there's been so many people

(30:44):
that I get to, say, have touchedmy life and believed in me in my career.
And that means moreto me than anything else.
I have a lot of musical influences.
Bad Bunny, for example, his latest albumis incredible, and I'm obsessed with it.
Daddy Yankee, Taylor Swift reallyinspired my songwriting

(31:08):
for the first little while and reallyshowed me how to craft songs in that way.
Alicia Keys, Tori Kelly, there's a lot of -Ed Sheeran, all these musical influences
that I don't know personally, of course.
Yet!
They say, all heroes don't wear capes.
And that's so real.

(31:29):
A lot of the people in my life don't evenreally know the impact that they've had.
And sometimes it just takesthat one like, Hey, I see you.
You're doing well, or here,let me help you with this,
or let me give you this contact.
And you never know howthat's going to come back around.
I'm just immensely grateful for everybody.

(31:50):
Wow.Thank you.
There's a lot of great namesand great influences that you have here.
Oh, yeah.
For sure.
Okay.
Well, thank you so much for taking thetime to have this conversation with me.
And I think there will be...

(32:12):
With each episode of ArtsAbly, there is always
what is called the Resource Page.
We will post some of the names
or the conversations, the topics that
we've mentioned on this Resource Page.
Oh, awesome.
So that people can also followsome of your links, your YouTube channel.

(32:34):
I know one of my favorite clipsis Sin Preguntar.
Oh, thank you.
I really love this clip, so I thinkwe're going to post all that content.
Awesome.
Yeah, thank you so much.
I'm sure we're going to see us aroundin one event or the other.

(32:55):
Oh, absolutely.
Yes.
Well, I wish you a greatday and talk soon.
Thank you. You too.
Bye, Precious.
Bye..
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