January 13, 2023 • 8 mins
Episode one of As Recommended featured an eclectic mix of guests that helped tell the story of my production experience and fortitude. This episode is different. This time we discuss why I should NOT be considered for employment. And, it’s not what you think. Perspective is dynamic, have a listen and decide for yourself if you want me on your team.
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Unknown (00:00):
Hi I'm Heather Irvine and you're listening to episode
(00:11):
two of as recommended. EpisodeOne of as recommended featured
an eclectic mix of guests thathelped tell my story of
production experience andfortitude. As a standalone
episode, as recommended has beendownloaded over 1500 times from
all over the world, and from amyriad of different electronic
(00:32):
devices. This episode isdifferent. This time we discuss
why I should not be consideredfor employment. And it's not
what you think perspective isdynamic. Have a listen and
decide for yourself if you wantme on your team. In the summer
(00:53):
of 2020, just after I'd achievedmy Master's at Eastern Michigan
University in April,professional opportunities were
dry and difficult to come by. SoI made my own. With over two
years of reflection on thisupcoming interview, it is clear
to me how I have evolved into aconfident, impassioned, lively
(01:14):
and creative college instructor.
I've written several syllabithat I'm really proud of, and
they've proven to be extremelysuccessful. And I have data to
back that up. This productionacts as an audio recommendation
segment and in this edition, Italk with a noteworthy member of
my endorsement Council, Dr.
Dennis Patrick O'Grady. Dennis,this is Heather.
(01:42):
Hi. Hi, my name is DennisPatrick O'Grady. I am a
professor in the communicationprogram at Eastern Michigan
University. And I know Heatherquite well, as an undergrad, I
was their Academic Advisor. Andthen in graduate school, I had
her in two of my courses. And Ialso served as the chair of her
(02:05):
project committee.
Anything for me any reasons whyan employer should not consider
hiring me.
Other is a really good writer,she she writes incredibly well.
And she always submitted herpapers, like early, she was one
of the few in the class thatsubmitted her paper before the
(02:29):
deadline. In fact, most of itafter the deadline. So because
she always set the bar for whatI was expecting in a paper. And
often she exceeded what I wasexpecting in the paper, I always
started by reading for paperfor, you know, just that a
little repetitive or a littleboring, having to always be on
(02:50):
paper first. Andthat's true. For me, I stress
out if I am not on top of it inproduction, it's a lot about pre
production, being ready. Andhaving that done. So I could
scoot that behind me, you know,hit submit and start moving on
to the next thing. So for me,that's important. I had so much
(03:11):
fun thinking about your class, Ibe out running with my dog and
thinking about your class andhow I was going to attack a
certain project that was reallyfun for me. Loved it. Oh,
I can see that. Right. Yeah, Ican see that in your
(03:32):
contributions and yourperformance in class. And I
mean, there's that's what youwant as a professor, right?
Yeah. I mean, you want, like youwho are engaged and enthusiastic
and interested and want tolearn. And that's, that's the
whole? That's why we do that.
Yes. So one of the challengeswith having Heather as a student
(03:53):
is that she was alwaysthoroughly prepared for class.
So I would give a pretty fairamount of reading every week.
And she would not only do thereading, but she would have
notes about the reading. And shewould always have something
intelligent and insightful andthought provoking to say about
what we read. And then we putpressure on me as a professor.
(04:15):
That made me feel like I have tocome up with an insightful essay
about the reading, and I have tobe prepared. And Heather was
always prepared for my class.
Any other reasons why Ishouldn't. My employer should
(04:37):
not consider me.
Yes, I have. I have one. Okay.
I'm saying this as someone whoteaches and does research and
interpersonal communication, andthings that I have pretty good
interpersonal communicationskills myself, but Heather is
incredibly friendly and warm.
(04:58):
And a lot of the students in theClass, became her friend, and
looked up to her and saw her asa mentor. Now, she's still,
she's still always professionalis always mature, but she just
generate this positivity, andthis warmth, that is really
appealing. And it's such a joyto have someone like that in
(05:20):
class on one hand, but on theother hand, it makes me feel a
little unhappy.
And he's the embodies everythingthat I teach about it.
Oh, my God. That's one of thegreatest sound bites ever. This
(05:47):
is so interesting. Because, youknow, it usually comes back to a
story, right? Because I'm astoryteller. And I was running,
I was running a half marathononce and I was just going about
my business. It was a beautifulmorning, and I just wanted to
hit like an eight minute pace.
And I did I did really well,hitting like an eight minute
pace elite was really great,until someone tapped me on the
shoulder right after the raceended. And he says, You know
(06:09):
what, I was following you theentire race, because I liked
your pace. And you were soconsistent and just kept going.
And thank you for helping topace me. But it occurred to me
in that moment, that a lot ofthe time that when we're just
doing what we're doing andtrying to be good at what we're
trying to do, or what we'refocusing on, that we are pacing
other people that we are, thatthey're looking at us for, how
(06:33):
they can be too, and how theycan keep up and how they can
stay right in stride. And that'swhat I say to you that with the
with what you just said, I thinkyou pace the class in that
respect.
Yeah, yeah. And I think it alsoreveals that you sometimes don't
(06:57):
realize the impact that you haveon other people. Yeah, and I'm
just gonna have more relevance,what you're just saying is, I
would say that you are veryrhetorically sensitive. And the
best way like that you're reallygood at kind of picking up on
(07:19):
the cues of the people aroundyou, and the situation that
you're in, and you're adaptingit. So you are sensitive to what
other people need or don't needat particular points in time.
Wow. That's pretty cool. Guesswhat? That's making it in the
show. Well, thank you so much,Dennis. I look forward to
(07:42):
working on this podcast and andlistening to this back. I'm
really excited about it. Sothank you. Thank you. Thank you
for your time.
And best of luck and have a goodrest.
Thanks you as well enjoy therest of this gorgeous day. All
right, Dennis. Take care. Okay.
All right. Thank you. Bye. Bye.
Well, that was amazing. Thankyou so much, Dennis. Thank you
(08:06):
for listening to episode two ofas recommended. Production is in
the doing and I'm hungry formore. I am in blossom mode. Just
beginning to reap what I'vesown, either get on board or
move over. This interview wasconducted on an MSL condenser
microphone, a zoom h6 interfaceand edited with Adobe Audition.
(08:30):
A huge thanks to my friend andmentor Dr. Dennis Patrick
O'Grady. Thanks for playingalong. I'm Heather Irvine and
this is as recommended
Hi I'm Heather Irvine and you're listening to episode
(00:11):
two of as recommended. EpisodeOne of as recommended featured
an eclectic mix of guests thathelped tell my story of
production experience andfortitude. As a standalone
episode, as recommended has beendownloaded over 1500 times from
all over the world, and from amyriad of different electronic
(00:32):
devices. This episode isdifferent. This time we discuss
why I should not be consideredfor employment. And it's not
what you think perspective isdynamic. Have a listen and
decide for yourself if you wantme on your team. In the summer
(00:53):
of 2020, just after I'd achievedmy Master's at Eastern Michigan
University in April,professional opportunities were
dry and difficult to come by. SoI made my own. With over two
years of reflection on thisupcoming interview, it is clear
to me how I have evolved into aconfident, impassioned, lively
(01:14):
and creative college instructor.
I've written several syllabithat I'm really proud of, and
they've proven to be extremelysuccessful. And I have data to
back that up. This productionacts as an audio recommendation
segment and in this edition, Italk with a noteworthy member of
my endorsement Council, Dr.
Dennis Patrick O'Grady. Dennis,this is Heather.
(01:42):
Hi. Hi, my name is DennisPatrick O'Grady. I am a
professor in the communicationprogram at Eastern Michigan
University. And I know Heatherquite well, as an undergrad, I
was their Academic Advisor. Andthen in graduate school, I had
her in two of my courses. And Ialso served as the chair of her
(02:05):
project committee.
Anything for me any reasons whyan employer should not consider
hiring me.
Other is a really good writer,she she writes incredibly well.
And she always submitted herpapers, like early, she was one
of the few in the class thatsubmitted her paper before the
(02:29):
deadline. In fact, most of itafter the deadline. So because
she always set the bar for whatI was expecting in a paper. And
often she exceeded what I wasexpecting in the paper, I always
started by reading for paperfor, you know, just that a
little repetitive or a littleboring, having to always be on
(02:50):
paper first. Andthat's true. For me, I stress
out if I am not on top of it inproduction, it's a lot about pre
production, being ready. Andhaving that done. So I could
scoot that behind me, you know,hit submit and start moving on
to the next thing. So for me,that's important. I had so much
(03:11):
fun thinking about your class, Ibe out running with my dog and
thinking about your class andhow I was going to attack a
certain project that was reallyfun for me. Loved it. Oh,
I can see that. Right. Yeah, Ican see that in your
(03:32):
contributions and yourperformance in class. And I
mean, there's that's what youwant as a professor, right?
Yeah. I mean, you want, like youwho are engaged and enthusiastic
and interested and want tolearn. And that's, that's the
whole? That's why we do that.
Yes. So one of the challengeswith having Heather as a student
(03:53):
is that she was alwaysthoroughly prepared for class.
So I would give a pretty fairamount of reading every week.
And she would not only do thereading, but she would have
notes about the reading. And shewould always have something
intelligent and insightful andthought provoking to say about
what we read. And then we putpressure on me as a professor.
(04:15):
That made me feel like I have tocome up with an insightful essay
about the reading, and I have tobe prepared. And Heather was
always prepared for my class.
Any other reasons why Ishouldn't. My employer should
(04:37):
not consider me.
Yes, I have. I have one. Okay.
I'm saying this as someone whoteaches and does research and
interpersonal communication, andthings that I have pretty good
interpersonal communicationskills myself, but Heather is
incredibly friendly and warm.
(04:58):
And a lot of the students in theClass, became her friend, and
looked up to her and saw her asa mentor. Now, she's still,
she's still always professionalis always mature, but she just
generate this positivity, andthis warmth, that is really
appealing. And it's such a joyto have someone like that in
(05:20):
class on one hand, but on theother hand, it makes me feel a
little unhappy.
And he's the embodies everythingthat I teach about it.
Oh, my God. That's one of thegreatest sound bites ever. This
(05:47):
is so interesting. Because, youknow, it usually comes back to a
story, right? Because I'm astoryteller. And I was running,
I was running a half marathononce and I was just going about
my business. It was a beautifulmorning, and I just wanted to
hit like an eight minute pace.
And I did I did really well,hitting like an eight minute
pace elite was really great,until someone tapped me on the
shoulder right after the raceended. And he says, You know
(06:09):
what, I was following you theentire race, because I liked
your pace. And you were soconsistent and just kept going.
And thank you for helping topace me. But it occurred to me
in that moment, that a lot ofthe time that when we're just
doing what we're doing andtrying to be good at what we're
trying to do, or what we'refocusing on, that we are pacing
other people that we are, thatthey're looking at us for, how
(06:33):
they can be too, and how theycan keep up and how they can
stay right in stride. And that'swhat I say to you that with the
with what you just said, I thinkyou pace the class in that
respect.
Yeah, yeah. And I think it alsoreveals that you sometimes don't
(06:57):
realize the impact that you haveon other people. Yeah, and I'm
just gonna have more relevance,what you're just saying is, I
would say that you are veryrhetorically sensitive. And the
best way like that you're reallygood at kind of picking up on
(07:19):
the cues of the people aroundyou, and the situation that
you're in, and you're adaptingit. So you are sensitive to what
other people need or don't needat particular points in time.
Wow. That's pretty cool. Guesswhat? That's making it in the
show. Well, thank you so much,Dennis. I look forward to
(07:42):
working on this podcast and andlistening to this back. I'm
really excited about it. Sothank you. Thank you. Thank you
for your time.
And best of luck and have a goodrest.
Thanks you as well enjoy therest of this gorgeous day. All
right, Dennis. Take care. Okay.
All right. Thank you. Bye. Bye.
Well, that was amazing. Thankyou so much, Dennis. Thank you
(08:06):
for listening to episode two ofas recommended. Production is in
the doing and I'm hungry formore. I am in blossom mode. Just
beginning to reap what I'vesown, either get on board or
move over. This interview wasconducted on an MSL condenser
microphone, a zoom h6 interfaceand edited with Adobe Audition.
(08:30):
A huge thanks to my friend andmentor Dr. Dennis Patrick
O'Grady. Thanks for playingalong. I'm Heather Irvine and
this is as recommended
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