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January 3, 2025 40 mins

In this Pokemon interview, we are joined by Glowl, A Pokemon Trainer who leads the Fried Shrimp community and hunts for Shiny Pokemon on Twitch.

Glowl's Pokemon Journey begins with Pokemon Sapphire where he traveled the Hoenn region. He continues to play Pokemon and starts to gain an interest in Shiny Pokemon. Due to the rarity, Glowl is dedicated to catch all Shiny Pokemon!

However, Glowl expresses the biggest impact on his Pokemon journey came from the Pokemon creators he would watch on Youtube and Twitch. It led to him becoming a Pokemon content creator, specifically Twitch. Pokemon has given him a lot of opportunities, including a visit to NAIC, Worlds 2024, and GO Fest in NYC.

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Glowl (00:00):
I'm Glowl, and this is my Pokemon story.

David Hernandez (00:43):
Welcome to As the Pokéball Turns, where we
interview people about theirexperience with Pokémon.
My name is David Hernandez.
I'm joined by Glau, leader ofthe Fried Champ, a Shiny Hunter,
and content creator on Twitch,where you can catch him trying
to determine if that Poltergeistis a Shiny or not.
Glau, welcome to As the PokéballTurns.

Glowl (01:03):
How's it going?
Hope you're having a great day.
I just quick update to yourintro.
The Poltergeist is probably notshiny.
I never find them.
I can never find him.
My luck is so bad.

David Hernandez (01:13):
I mean It's just awful.
Oh my gosh.
Well, I mean like it's just soclose of a shiny And that's what
bugs me the most is whenever yousee shiny pokemon.
They just don't look differentcompared to the

Glowl (01:21):
Sometimes they really don't know, yeah.

David Hernandez (01:24):
No, but you know, I appreciate you coming on
the show and i'm looking forwardto kind of diving into your
experience with pokemon Butbefore we dive into the pokemon
side, I gotta ask a question

Glowl (01:33):
Yeah, go for it.

David Hernandez (01:34):
so on your bio It says that originally you got
into gaming because of yourgrandparents playing legend of
zelda and super mario on the n64Mhm.

Glowl (01:42):
hmm.

David Hernandez (01:43):
That is wild to me and I gotta say like were
your grandparents like just moreaccepting of kind of like that
kind of culture Cuz me my momwas she called a computer a
brain She thought that nerdystuff was just you know She had
a lot of stereotypes.
I'm gonna go into but like whatwere your grandparents like for

Glowl (01:59):
yeah.
So I feel like I was very luckyin that aspect because, you
know, growing up, my grandpawould like code games onto like
floppy disks.
I don't know how this works.
I'm not old enough to understandany of that, but he would do all
that kind of stuff.
So he kind of like had like ageneral idea of like gaming and
they would play like Mariotogether, Zelda, whatnot.
And so I got to like, grow upwatching that happen.

(02:20):
And then it was really cool tojust be like able to play some
of those games with them as Igrew up.

David Hernandez (02:25):
That's awesome So y'all would just like spend
time and would you like kind ofwatch them or would they kind of
play and they would kind Ofguide you like how would that
work?
I

Glowl (02:33):
like, until I was old enough to figure out what the
heck I was doing, I did justwatch them and I was like, Oh,
this looks really fun.
You know, it's like a story, butyou get to control kind of what
happens a little bit.
And so I thought that was likereally interesting as far as
like, you know, cause I, I wouldwatch shows or whatever, but I
was never able to control thosecharacters.
Right.
So being able to play as Link,sorry, this is a Pokemon

(02:54):
podcast, but If you're gonnaplay as Link

David Hernandez (02:56):
that's

Glowl (02:57):
It's so cool to be able to like, Oh, I'm doing this, you
know, it's, it's me.
That's taking, so I was like,that's really cool.
So as I got older, you know, Iwould, I would play some more,
you know, I got like a GameCubeand that was, you know, big
start, big start to everything.
We would play Mario Kart, doubledash together a lot.
that game.
is so good.
Uh, then like, yeah, there's abunch of other ones, like Croc,
legend of the gobos, which ishaving a remake soon.

(03:18):
Very excited.
And yeah, I don't know, juststuff like that really got me
into like gaming in general atthe start.
My very first Pokemon game wasPokemon Sapphire.
And I got into it because I hada neighbor at the time who was a
bit older than me, but he hadlike the Pokemon cards and he

(03:41):
had a couple of games.
And I think he had like some ofthe VHS tapes or whatever for
the, for the episodes.
And so when I would like go overthere to like hang out or
whatever, and he would like havehis Pokemon cards out playing
with his friends, I was like,these little creatures are so
cool.
What, tell me about this kind ofstuff.
Right.
And so eventually like, uh, Istarted watching the show, but
yeah, my first, my first gamewas Sapphire.

(04:01):
he gave me some Pokemon cards,and then I was like telling my
grandparents about it, and theywere like, well, how about we
just get you the, the new onethat came out?
And it was Sapphire at the time,so Ruby and

David Hernandez (04:11):
That's awesome.
Did you try to play the TCG atall when your

Glowl (04:14):
No, absolutely not.
I just looked at the cards.
I looked at them and I'm like,well, this is cool.

David Hernandez (04:19):
pretty cardboard goes a long way.
Right

Glowl (04:20):
Exactly, yeah.
Cool pictures.

David Hernandez (04:23):
Well, your grandparents, you know, again,
they had that video gamebackground.
They were already Did they evertry diving into Pokemon at all?
Or was it kind of, they didn'tunderstand it.
Yeah.

Glowl (04:31):
no, I don't think they were super interested in it.
I'm not really sure what it was,maybe just because it seemed
like a kid's game.
I don't know, I guess maybe the,the stereotype of like being
like for kids maybe might haveshied them away, but my
grandma's actually really biginto Pokemon Go right now, so
she plays a lot.
she plays a lot, so that'sreally fun.
but yeah, back when I was, whenI was growing up as like a

(04:51):
little, little tot, you know,didn't really uh, pick up
Pokemon for them, they were moreMario and Zelda.

David Hernandez (04:57):
So when you played Pokemon Sapphire, what
were some of your most memorablemoments playing that game.

Glowl (05:04):
It was really cool.
I, okay, I was not very s I'mstill not very smart, right?
But, it's tricky to figure outsometimes, so like, oh,
actually, I remember, my grandmawould have to any ice puzzle
ever, or strength puzzle, shewould have to do it for me.
Never, I could never figure itout growing up, so I guess I did
play a little bit to help meout.
but yeah, I remember I choseMudkip, that was my very first
Pokemon ever.

(05:25):
So shout out the Mudkipsomething about like the, the
actual monsters, you know, thepocket monsters is kind of what
drew me into it, I don't know,maybe because I don't know, I
just like animals and stuff.
Right.
So I would like go outside andlike try, Oh, when I was growing
up, I would like go outside andtry to catch bugs and stuff.
And so being able to like catchstuff and like be able to grow

(05:48):
them and like, Teach themcertain moves or whatever.
I think that was kind of likethe, the appeal after I got into
playing that kept me comingback.
Be like, Oh, I haven't tried itwith this one yet.
Let me see what happens when Ilevel this one up,

David Hernandez (05:59):
Yeah, I was going to say you picked a bad
generation for strength puzzles.
I there was a lot of strengthpuzzles for, the team Magma
hideouts or something like

Glowl (06:08):
yeah, I could never like the, sometimes I'll get so lost
surfing around too.
I'd be like, I know I got to gosomewhere, but I have no clue
how to get there.

David Hernandez (06:15):
I don't know if you remember this.
How'd you deal with the currentson the west side of Pacific log?

Glowl (06:19):
I, I don't know how I got through there.
I, if I had to guess it wasn'tme.
If I had to guess, I would saysomebody did it for me.

David Hernandez (06:26):
Oh, okay.
I thought it was like adifferent cloud, a different
dimension.

Glowl (06:29):
I don't think so.
Well, maybe, maybe it wasFutureGlitch.
I don't know if I could do itnow if I tried.

David Hernandez (06:33):
When it comes to like just playing Pokemon.
So you started with gen three.
What's your like favoritegeneration or what's your core
games is gen three or is it adifferent generation?

Glowl (06:41):
tricky because since Gen 3 was my very first game, the
Hoenn region, Kind of always haslike that home feel to me, you
know, it's like this is where Istarted.
This is where I, you know, myjourney starts, but, as we went
on, I think black and white,those generations are some of my
all time favorites.
I love how they look, which itmight be controversial, but I
don't know the pixelated likeanimated pixels are so good.

(07:04):
black, white two is really nice.
but then as like more recentlysword and shield might be my
favorites.

David Hernandez (07:11):
Oh, really?
So

Glowl (07:11):
Orange is just real good.
Yeah, but don't forget aboutEmerald, you know.
I am just kinda grouping Gen 3together to put in Emerald, but.
But yeah, those are all, thoseare my top three, would I say,
those three generations.

David Hernandez (07:25):
I mean, you can like him for each different
reason because, I mean, thepixel Pokemon, I think they're
kind of either or either likehim or you don't.
For some people, they said like,Oh, this is beyond, they should
have switched over to, models,because that's what people were
really clamoring back there inthose generations.
you know,

Glowl (07:39):
was big when they added the models.
I remember everybody was, was soexcited about it.

David Hernandez (07:43):
It worked, but then the thing is that for me, I
even love those pixels becauseI, you know, sometimes I have to
use it for my own content andI'm like, these pixels are
actually pretty cool.
They still they still came kindof realistic.
And I feel like when they switchfrom those pixels to the models.

Glowl (07:57):
Mm hmm.

David Hernandez (07:57):
They lost something, you

Glowl (07:59):
Yeah, something about the way that they're able to, put
the pixels together.
Like they give the Pokemon somuch life I feel like a lot of
the 3d models are, is missing.

David Hernandez (08:07):
Mm-Hmm.
And then I know for you,'causeyou're a shiny hunter.
so the one thing that reallybugs me is shiny Regice and
shiny Skarmory because for me, Ifeel like I could see.
The darker blue with Regice backin those

Glowl (08:21):
Absolutely.
Yes.

David Hernandez (08:22):
it looks almost the same

Glowl (08:24):
You can't tell.

David Hernandez (08:25):
Yeah, you can't tell

Glowl (08:26):
It's so hard to tell.

David Hernandez (08:27):
Yeah, I guess that's just because the models I
guess I don't know.
I don't know why skarmory looksstill more metallic I

Glowl (08:32):
Yeah, I'm not sure, like, I don't know the modeling or
whatever lingo that you woulduse to, like, describe it, but
something about the way thatthey are, maybe it's the
lighting could be possible, butyeah, it just doesn't, I feel
like a lot of them don't pop asmuch as they used to.

David Hernandez (08:48):
You know when we're back going back to black
and white, you know for me Ilove the story was that did you
enjoy the end

Glowl (08:53):
you're so good.
so good.
I think, up until Arvin, N mighthave been my all time favorite
Pokemon character.

David Hernandez (09:01):
Why N?

Glowl (09:02):
I don't know, there was something about him.
First of all, he looks cool.
I would say that's probably thefirst one.
But I think, like, he had somekind of, like, love for the
Pokemon that you don't see witha lot of trainers.
You know, a lot of them, like,gym leaders, maybe just the
their story wasn't as fleshedout as N's was because he was a
main part of, like, pretty muchthe entire game, right?
But I feel like, there wassomething like, the way that he

(09:24):
interacted with the Pokemon thatfelt Something that I feel like
would be more a realistic viewif Pokemon were real, I think.
Yeah.
Well, yeah.

(09:46):
Yeah, that's fair.
but then like you get characterslike Arvin who, uh, that
storyline's just so sad.
You know, I'll cry every singletime I play through that.
Yep.

David Hernandez (09:59):
If not top 5, at least number 1 most tragic
Pokemon character of all time.
For Pokemon, I mean.

Glowl (10:07):
I know.
Kind of a good ending, I think,maybe, a little bit.

David Hernandez (10:11):
Is it really?
The

Glowl (10:12):
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
if it's a good ending.
I feel like it could have beenmaybe worse.
I don't know how it would havegotten worse, but I don't know.
He's got friends at the end ofthe day, I guess.
Is

David Hernandez (10:21):
but he's an I mean, he's Harry Potter,
basically.
But, um,

Glowl (10:25):
valid?

David Hernandez (10:26):
but also, you know, you talked about the gym
leaders.
one thing I loved about Blackand White is they kind of felt
more fleshed out because theycome in at

Glowl (10:34):
Yeah, they help you out.

David Hernandez (10:35):
them.
Yeah, like, when do you see thatagain of maybe Scarlet and
Violet, I

Glowl (10:39):
A lot of times, like, the gym leaders show up, they're
hanging out in their room, andyou never hear or see them
again.
and I feel like at least for thegame sense, like there's such a
big part of what makes thatregion.
And so to like have them kind ofdisappear after you beat them
is, is a little bit weird, youknow, that's why in gen five,
when they come and help you outand there's this big moment of
all of them showing up, youknow, it's like the Avengers,

(11:01):
you know, they're all here.
It was so cool.
So cool.

David Hernandez (11:04):
all I was missing was, well, I think it
had some music, but I can'tremember what it was.

Glowl (11:07):
I don't know.
I'm going to be honest.
I don't remember.

David Hernandez (11:08):
been a long time, yeah, I'm too old.
But also, you know, another gamethat you said you liked was
Pokemon Sword and Shield.
Why is that one in your list?
Like what about that game bringsit

Glowl (11:18):
I, I don't know if it would be here if it wasn't for
Dynamax adventures.
I think the amount of times,because it's like, you know, you
have four people together, theamount of like streams I've been
able to do with friends where wejust hang out and do Dynamax
adventures together, becauselike you can shiny hunt adjacent
with each other, but not reallyever together up until that
point.
And so to be able to like, Oh,we're going to work together to

(11:40):
beat this legendary.
And then we're all like, Oh,shiny check.
Let's see if anybody got one,you know, I don't know something
about that was really what madeit fun.
And plus, I feel like the bigpart of like my streaming
journey, you know, started withSword and Shield, right?
And.so I think that game justwill hold a special place
because of that, right?

David Hernandez (11:58):
I felt like Pokemon really nailed it home to
kind of bring multiplayer'causethe only way you could really
multiplayer in the other gamesthey were trying to figure out
Pokemon contest they were doingbattling, which, you know,
battlings fun, but it's notpeople a lot, a lot of people
don't.
Enjoy it or they don't mind thatthey'll tolerate it this was
like the first time to where youcan actually group together and
come together to kind of gothrough an adventure and see If

(12:18):
y'all could shine it was like,of course, you know Dynamax
raids were Pokemon go Better,you know go raids better, but I
can kind of see that how youknow, you had that connection so

(13:15):
you mentioned how, your contentcreation started with Pokemon
Sword and

Glowl (13:18):
Yeah,

David Hernandez (13:19):
I know you started on Twitch, is that
correct?

Glowl (13:22):
that was actually incorrect.
Whoa.
I,

David Hernandez (13:25):
dang, I need to do my

Glowl (13:26):
technically, if we want to get super real about this,
I've been uploading on myYouTube channel for roughly 12
years.

David Hernandez (13:33):
Oh, man, happy anniversary.

Glowl (13:34):
Thanks.
Thanks.
But I would upload that, but itwas never anything like serious,
you know, if I would like findsomething or, cause I, when I
was growing up, I would watch somany Pokemon content creators.
Right.
And it was like, was like, Oh, Ithink that'd be so much fun to
try.
Right.
And so me growing up, I'm, I'msuper young, you know, I'm
starting uploading when I'm like13, 14.
Right.
So I don't really know what I'mdoing.
So I'll just.

(13:55):
Put a camera up, recordsomething and upload it and hope
for the best.
it wasn't really until, thesword and shield games came out
where I was like, okay, I'mactually gonna like put effort
into this and see what canhappen.
so I started uploading my, myplay through that on YouTube.
And then eventually I was like,oh, I can like stream like shiny
hunting and stuff.
That could be fun.
And so I started streaming thatwas a big stepping stone, I
think, to where I'm at rightnow.

David Hernandez (14:16):
That's awesome.
Like initially when youinitially started were you of
course nervous and likeintimidated of like being live
stream because you don't reallyhave a chance to like and stuff
like that.

Glowl (14:25):
you know, going back and like watching some of the VODs
like from from my first couplestreams.
They're rough They're not goodand you can tell like I'm
nervous awkward I'm not fullylike comfortable with you know,
cuz I think growing up inschool.
I was super like Introvertedright?
I didn't have a lot of people Iwent to to talk with I didn't
have a lot of like, Friendsgrowing up which is whatever So
I think like trying to go outand like talking and knowing

(14:47):
that people could be watching meright now It was very intimate.
It was so scary at first.
But I think the, the more you dothis kind of stuff, you do just
kind of get used to it, right?
And I feel like you come out ofyour shell a bit more and, and
just grow.

David Hernandez (14:58):
That's so true because for.
me, I started podcasting.
I was so nervous'cause I don'tknow what I'm doing.
I was I'm in a room by myselfand I had nobody to talk to.
I'm doing this solo before I didthe interviews and it's just so
weird.
it's just, I guess something wedon't do naturally and you kinda
have to develop your own voiceand learn to bring your own
personality, not like changeyourself, but bring your

(15:19):
personality in a way that peoplecan kind of connect with you in
a different

Glowl (15:22):
Yeah, of course.
It's almost like you're, puttingout your aura more than you
normally would, right?
Cause if I'm just like at thegrocery store, I'm not going to
be like talking like this, butyou know, this isn't a fake
voice or a fake likepersonality.
This is definitely likeshowcased more because we're.
Putting ourself out there to tryto entertain or whatever, right?

David Hernandez (15:41):
So, I know that for you, you said you looked up
to content creators growing up,the Pokemon ones.
What some that stuck out, orones that really left an
impression on

Glowl (15:49):
All right.
So shout out We got Gameboy Lukeshady penguin.
I one of the first creators.
I don't know if you knowMaryland or Super sparmory was
one of the first ones.
I started watching GCP 11 Pimpnight.
There was a lot.
I feel like there was

David Hernandez (16:05):
I love pimp

Glowl (16:06):
I could go on.
There is so many that like Ijust started watching from
there.
Like I think I would be watchingMaryland Let's Play videos on
like the family computer at thetime.
And I just have the speakersturned up.
Everybody'd have to listen toMaryland the whole time.

David Hernandez (16:19):
For me I was always big on pimp night He was
probably my favorite out of theones you mentioned love because
I think he would always maketeams and he Tried to make it
work

Glowl (16:27):
Yes.
Yeah.

David Hernandez (16:28):
and I was just so interesting Like

Glowl (16:30):
like The Shuckle sweeps and stuff like his sweep videos
where he would just like to tryto like beat this entire team by
like Setting up one Pokemon tomake it really strong and just
yeah, it was so cool.

David Hernandez (16:40):
And then he would eventually show I think
bloopers at the end.
He didn't start right away, butI think At some point he
transitioned to showing likewhen it almost worked or when
something hilariously neverwould have happened.

Glowl (16:52):
so cool I I have no clue what I'm doing VGC wise but I
enjoy watching it I think it'sso cool

David Hernandez (16:58):
How important was it for you to be able to
watch these content creatorswhen it comes to

Glowl (17:01):
Oh my gosh.
You know, it's one of thosethings where like, I don't know
if I would be doing this stuffif it wasn't for them.
I've always like, been more oflike, an entertainer kind of
feeling, I feel like.
Like I'm not great with like alot of math error, like that
kind of like smart stuff, but Ifeel like the artsy side is kind
of more where I Excel in life orwhatever.

(17:23):
And so like being able to likesee these people and being like,
Oh, that's something I coulddefinitely do.
You know, that, I think that wasa big, so yeah.
I don't know if I would be doingthis if I wasn't watching
content creators from the getgo.
Really?

David Hernandez (17:34):
I mean, it makes sense because, you know,
for us, you know, I grew upwith, uh, you know, some of the
ones you mentioned also grew upwith Jade wits, Tamahiro

Glowl (17:41):
Oh my gosh.
Yes.
Yes.
Thank you.

David Hernandez (17:42):
then, yeah, it's okay.
I got you.
So I grew up with them and Idon't think I would have the
passion I do for Pokemon if itwasn't for them.
Cause I loved like the deepdive.
Oh, the Dex was one of myfavorites.
I love kind of the deep dives inthe Pokemon lore.
That's always been kind of mylittle, It's one of my little
hobbies.
I like to dive into, I like todive into stuff with Pokemon,
but anyway, if it wasn't forthem, I don't think I'd still be

(18:02):
invested in the franchise.
And I think especially for us,because we are content creators
or anybody who's listening, whois a content creator.
It's like, we kind of have arole to pass it on and to kind
of inspire the next generation.
I

Glowl (18:13):
of course.
Yeah, I think like one of the,one of the most incredible
things about doing this stuff isthe community, right?
There's so many cool people I'vemet through doing this stuff
that I would have never metotherwise, And so like, because
of that, it's so cool to belike, you know, if you ever get
to meet somebody that was aninspiration to you, or knowing

(18:33):
that maybe, you know, somebody'slike, Hey, you inspired me to do
this.
It's such a, it's such aheartwarming feeling.

David Hernandez (18:39):
it is, it is like, I felt, uh, weird.
It was the first time I evercame out as the podcast host.
'cause people had never seen myface before.

Glowl (18:46):
Yeah.

David Hernandez (18:47):
And people would come and tell me, oh,
enjoy your podcast.
I so weird.
I kid you not.
like, how do you respond tothat?
I don't know.
I didn't prepare for

Glowl (18:54):
yeah, yeah, it's because you know cuz sorry to I don't
maybe break the fourth wall abit But when you when you showed
up when I when I met you atGoFest I was like so nervous cuz
I was like, oh my gosh, likethis doesn't happen, you know
What am I supposed to say?
I was like, oh, thanks.

David Hernandez (19:12):
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
But no, I mean, like I said,cause at the time, you know, I
was, you know, I still watchyour content.
I was like, he's prettyentertaining.
So I just, I didn't recognizeyou immediately.
I think, I

Glowl (19:20):
Yeah, that's fair.

David Hernandez (19:21):
So yeah.

Glowl (19:23):
No, I, I mean, I'm still, I'm still fairly small in the
grand scheme of things, youknow, I'm not going to try to
hype myself up too much, but,you know, it's really cool that
like, yeah, I mean, it'shappened, you know, where people
have recognized me and that's socool.
I never would have thought.

David Hernandez (19:36):
The one thing about your content is it's built
around shiny hunting and, youknow, we're going to dive into
like the different shiny huntsin a minute, but what is about
the shiny Pokemon that firstinterested you?

Glowl (19:46):
I think it's just the rarity, I think just like,
knowing that there's like ararer version of this thing that
I could have, you know, might bewhat it is.

David Hernandez (19:55):
Well, the Red Guerrillas was my first SHINee.

Glowl (20:06):
I didn't get a shiny until well, the Red Gyarados was
my first one, but that was theRed Gyarados in Heart Gold and
Soul Silver.
But my first, ever found Shinywas a Gligar in Heartgold.
It was on that route going upto, like, Claire, and also,
like, down to the main hometown.

David Hernandez (20:24):
Yeah, Blackthorn City and

Glowl (20:26):
Yeah, there you go.
Yeah, but I mean, like, otherthan that, yeah, I had no clue,
really, what was going on.
And then once the Red Gyaradoswas a thing, and because I was
watching, like, contentcreators, I was lucky enough to
know what was going on to notrelease it.
God, I've heard so many badstories that people just didn't
know.
Which is totally valid, right?
And so, it's just one of thosethings where it's, like, yeah, I
Yeah, my luck is so bad thatuntil I started actively looking

(20:48):
for them, I was not finding any.

David Hernandez (20:51):
Do you still have that Gligar by chance?

Glowl (20:52):
No, unfortunately, I do not.

David Hernandez (20:55):
to it?

Glowl (20:56):
don't even know.
I feel like I might have justlost a game cartridge.

David Hernandez (21:00):
Oh, okay, that's fair, that's

Glowl (21:01):
Yeah, I don't know where it's at.

David Hernandez (21:03):
I mean, I was gonna think, like, maybe he
restarted a game and he justhappened to

Glowl (21:05):
No, no, no, no.
Yeah, I don't know where it's at

David Hernandez (21:08):
Okay, it's somewhere, somebody enjoined
Gligar.

Glowl (21:10):
Somebody, hopefully, might have the Gligar.
Yeah, it could be out there.
Any viewers out there?
Any listeners have the Gligar,maybe?

David Hernandez (21:16):
Did you find a that had a Gligar?
Let us know.
You probably have Glauzo Gligar.

Glowl (21:20):
That's gonna be mine.

David Hernandez (21:23):
So also I want to ask, since you are just such
a shiny aficionado or shinyexpert, what do you think is the
most underrated shiny Pokemonout there?
Oh.

Glowl (21:33):
okay.
Okay, this is one I wasn'tprepared for.
Underrated.
I do think the green shinies getA little bit too much hate.
I don't think a lot of them arereally good.
We got Ursaring.
You've got, Espeon.
I feel like everybody A lot ofpeople don't like Espeon, but
it's so good.
I think Espeon's real good.
Um Yeah, yeah, yeah, alien.

(21:54):
But maybe, I guess maybe myanswer to this might be, like,
Giraffe Rig.
I don't know if it's, like,underrated, but that's one that
maybe I don't see a lot of lovefor, that I really like, is the
Giraffe Rig shiny.
It pretty much just has a bluenose, you know, not much
different than Diglett, but Ilike Giraffe Rigs, so that's my
answer.
Yeah, I don't know.
Although, to be fair, though,with Firigiraffe, I feel like it

(22:15):
might have come back a littlebit, maybe.
But I still guess I haven'treally seen too many.

David Hernandez (22:21):
for me, it's always been the Lotet family.
I've always

Glowl (22:24):
Oh, that one's so good.
It's so good.

David Hernandez (22:26):
I feel like it gets so underappreciated for it
I don't get why but to me that'ssuch a very good I just becomes
a very darker blue and green.
I Yeah

Glowl (22:35):
Yeah, that one's really good.
I'm trying to think of someother ones that I like a lot
that maybe I mean, you've gotPokemon, like, I think Wingull's
really good.
I think a lot of the ones that,like, are maybe subtle a bit fly
under the radar, but there'ssome that are really good.
Like, I like Tropius's shiny.
It's not really that muchdifferent.
like, Leafeon's got a good one.

David Hernandez (22:52):
I love Zangoose because it has that red and blue
on

Glowl (22:54):
Yes, yeah, the blue, Yeah I think my favorite are, like,
the blue shinies.
Like, Porygon's one of myfavorites.
Unknown is one of my favorites,too.
Yeah, the blue shinies reallypop out for me.

David Hernandez (23:05):
what's a shiny you would change?

Glowl (23:07):
I mean, I think the answer's gotta be like Garchomp,
right?

David Hernandez (23:11):
Garchomp.

Glowl (23:13):
Like, I think that, I think that is the answer.
but if I really had to pick,maybe?
I have, okay, a lot of like, myfriends will make fun of me for
liking Ladeon so much, butLedian's one of my all time
favorite Pokemon.
I don't have a reason why, Ijust really like it.
But I think Ledian could have amaybe, a shiny update.

David Hernandez (23:31):
I think it could've been like, instead of,
I think, I can't remember whatit's called right now, but I
think it would've been if theyjust inverted

Glowl (23:35):
like an orange.

David Hernandez (23:36):
I feel like they could've just inverted it,
just make it black with the redon it.

Glowl (23:39):
That would be cool.
That'd be cool.
Yeah, I mean, I'm a littlebiased.
I'd say just make it blue.

David Hernandez (23:44):
He just wanted blue.

Glowl (23:45):
Just make it blue?

David Hernandez (23:46):
Uh, paint the whole world blue or that song

Glowl (23:49):
yeah.
Leave the town blue.

David Hernandez (23:52):
Yep, the one I would change is obviously the
mouse hold family.
It bugs the

Glowl (23:56):
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, okay.

David Hernandez (23:57):
I would change it actually to brown.
I've always thought just changeit to a brown color

Glowl (24:02):
I mean, other color mice out there than white mice.
You could just pick one ofthose.

David Hernandez (24:06):
but instead they just do the shirt and pants
you can't tell the difference

Glowl (24:08):
it's so small too.
Yeah, that's, that's a muchbetter answer than what I gave.
Absolutely.

David Hernandez (24:12):
I mean guard job is still pretty good though.
Cuz gosh, I'm sure I mean guardjob some iconic Pokemon How do
you not give it a better, youknow shiny form than that?

Glowl (24:20):
yeah, it's so cool.
And shiny is just not great.
I think Gible's shiny is not, Ithink Gible's shiny is good, for
some reason when it evolves intoGarchomp, it's just not good at
all.

David Hernandez (24:30):
Gible and Gibite are pretty good.
It's the Garchomp that, for somereason, they just fell flat on.
I think they're just Oh, we kindof give up.
You'll still like it no matterwhat.
Or something

Glowl (24:37):
Yeah.
I think like another one that alot of people would say is like
Gengar, but I don't, I don'tmind that one as much,
especially because like, it'swell, I guess Gengar or sorry,
Garchomp's mega is really good.
It like turns pink.

David Hernandez (24:49):
Gengar turns white.

Glowl (24:51):
Yeah, Gengar turns white, Garchomp turns pink, so it's, I
think those actually, I guessthey did kind of fix it
retroactively a little bit, butthey didn't like change the
actual Pokemon, just the megaform, but,

David Hernandez (25:01):
so you've seen Pokemon try to change Shinies a
little bit, you know, they addthe marks of course, recently
Scarlet and Violet.
And then I think the priorgeneration did the squares.
think of those kinds of changes?
Do you like them or do you kindof wish Pokemon would do
something different when itcomes to shiny Pokemon?

Glowl (25:15):
they're cool.
I didn't care too much for the,the square star shiny thing in
Sword and Shield.
I was just interested in findingthe shinies.
But, uh, now in Scarlet andViolet, I'm actively looking for
the marked shinies.
If it doesn't have a mark, Idon't want it.
I don't want it.

David Hernandez (25:29):
What, uh, what is it about the mark that you
preferred over the squareshinies?

Glowl (25:34):
I don't know if this is the right thing to say, but I
feel like shiny hunting iseasier in Scarlet Violet.
There are ways that you couldchallenge yourself to make it
harder, right?
You don't have to use asandwich, you don't have to do
outbreaks, right?
But I do think just finding theshiny in Scarlet Violet is just
a bit easier, so it feels moreimpactful when you get a cool
mark on one.
I think that you wouldn't havethat feeling otherwise.

(25:55):
And plus it gives them like apersonality, right?

David Hernandez (25:57):
like a, like a jaw.

Glowl (26:01):
it gives them more character.
it was sort of a, something Ihad just kind of figured out on
the way I liked when I waswatching streams.

(26:22):
You know, my first couple ofTwitch streamers that I got
into, they like did a bunch ofshiny hunting and, that's sort
of what, yeah, once again, I'mjust, you know, other content
creators have inspired me to dothis and now I'm, I'm doing it
right.
But yeah, I don't know if youknow who Razokin is, but he was
one of the ones that I firststarted watching on Twitch that
did a bunch of shiny hunting andI was like, Oh, that's so cool.
there's something about it.

(26:42):
I think another thing that Ilike is, uh, shiny hunting
streams feel very much like ajust chatting stream where
something cool happens everyonce in a while.
So I could just, I could justsit there and yap, you know, we
could just have a long con CauseI, I like to talk a lot with my
chat when I'm streaming.
I know there's a lot of peoplethat don't, that's fine too.
You know, if you're more focusedon the game or whatnot, but, but

(27:02):
a lot of like, I think whatmakes my stream cool is I try to
make sure like I read every chatmessage, you know, we can have
long conversations aboutliterally anything really.
And then if we find a shiny,it's like, oh my gosh, you know,
it's a good like couple minuteswhere we have that big hit of
dopamine.

David Hernandez (27:17):
I mean, that's what I've always enjoyed
whenever I've watched shinyhunters or people who are just
like, you know On the huntscompared to other people who are
doing VGC or if they're doingwhat's the other popular
nuzlockes nuzlockes aren't toobad Actually, I don't mind those
as much but you know people whoare shiny hunting.
They're definitely more engagedwith the audience with people
who are in chat and I've noticedthat with you when you stream
You're like y'all going somerandom whatever's going on in

(27:39):
the

Glowl (27:39):
Yeah, sometimes talking about whatever.

David Hernandez (27:41):
Right, right.
It could be whatever, but that'skind of what makes it kind of,
you know, your own space andTwitch to where, you know, you
do shiny huntings.
And if you happen to find theone you're looking for, it's
like, oh my gosh.

Glowl (27:51):
it is.
We got it.

David Hernandez (27:53):
what's your most like a memorable shiny hunt
that you've done?

Glowl (27:56):
I think it's probably gotta be Okay, one of the first
ones I've ever done was Toxel inSword and Shield.
The first live streams I've donewas Toxel.
and that was cool because it wasegg 666.
So, you know, whoo, scary,scary.
I feel like it was kind offitting for Toxel a little bit,
you know, he's a littlemischievous.
Um, but then like there's onesthat like Darkrai, I feel like

(28:21):
that went on forever.
I think my longest hunt so farhas only been in like the 4000s.
Which is rough, but it could bea lot worse.
So I'm grateful for that.
But yeah, dark Cry was one ofthe ones that was really high up
there that felt really good toget,

David Hernandez (28:35):
Do you ever feel discouraged whenever the
hunt does go for that kind of

Glowl (28:38):
oh yeah.
Absolutely.
Sometimes I'm like, yeah, okay.
We could, you know, pivot and dosomething else for a little bit.
let's take a little break andmaybe we'll come back to it.

David Hernandez (28:47):
Well, that's the dedication I've always
appreciated by you shiny hunterscuz for me I don't have the
patience for it if I within likethe first couple of times That's
just not my thing.
But for you guys y'all be in thethousands some people get into
ten thousands God forbid thanthat

Glowl (28:59):
I don't know.
I don't know.
I've never got that far, butwe'll see.
We'll see.
Eventually, I feel like theredefinitely will be a time where
that happens,

David Hernandez (29:06):
You know, the one thing that I enjoyed about
you, after you became a contentcreator and because of your
passion for shiny Pokemon, youactually were co partnered with
a song called Shiny Shiny Shinx.

Glowl (29:16):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yep.
Real good one.

David Hernandez (29:18):
a catchy song.
Like, how did about?

Glowl (29:21):
So I was shiny hunting for shanks and you know growing
up in high school I used to likewrite music write songs or
whatever.
I can't really play aninstrument, but I could play
like ukulele, right?
So a little little music talkhere I was like really into 21
pilots still am but um, and so Iwould like write little songs
and whatnot And so sometimeswhen we're shiny hunting, I'll
just try to come up with alittle jingle.

(29:42):
So like this most recent one waslike we were shiny hunting heat
more and it was like H E H E M OR like hot to go all right get
it but anyway so i'm just makingup something for shanks you know
i'm like maybe if i sing you asong you'll you'll shine then my
friend azure potato was you knowviewing and watching the stream
and they were like hey i'mworking let's make a song let's
actually like put this togetherand do something with it and

(30:04):
that yeah we wrote the song wesang it and there it is

David Hernandez (30:08):
so y'all both wrote it and who produced it,
you or?

Glowl (30:11):
no, Ozzy did, not me.
I don't got that kind of talent.

David Hernandez (30:15):
But you wrote it though.

Glowl (30:16):
I wrote, uh, my parts.
I wrote, like, the the chorusand, uh, one of the verses and
whatnot, but Ozzy filled in therest.

David Hernandez (30:23):
Do you ever go back and listen to it or is it

Glowl (30:24):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, no, that's really good.
I have a channel point redeemwhere you can play it on stream
for a couple channel points, andso every once in a while it'll
just pop on and we'll have alittle, a little sing along.

David Hernandez (32:51):
When it comes to just, you know, your content
creation journey continuing, youeventually became a partner with
Pokemon.
What was it like to get to thatlevel as a content creator with
the franchise up with?

Glowl (33:00):
this is maybe just because, I don't know, not
trying to, like, talk down onmyself, I don't really think I
deserve it.
You know, I think there's a lotof creators out there that do it
better than I do that haven'thad that opportunity yet.
but it was definitely like, uh,I don't know.
It was a really weird feelingknowing that like when they
reached out and was like, Hey,can we send you this?
And I was like, Oh my gosh, yes.

(33:22):
So what kind of question isthat?
Of course you can.

David Hernandez (33:24):
I was gonna say you kind of deserve to kind of
brag for it because noteverybody does get partner,
especially with a franchise theygrew up with.

Glowl (33:31):
I know.
It's so wild.

David Hernandez (33:32):
yeah, it's amazing that you were able to
both, you know, partner withPokemon for you to be a co
streamer for worlds like that'sa big deal.

Glowl (33:37):
Yeah, that's so

David Hernandez (33:38):
And then you were able to go to NIC and what
was it like to kind of go forthat to go as a content creator?

Glowl (33:44):
It was fun.
I definitely like, I would tryto like, make sure I'm like
showcasing what the event'sabout, right?
Because there was norequirement, I still wanted to
be like, Hey, this is like thekind of event that this is.
It's so cool.
If you have the opportunity,definitely come to one right
there.
The live in person events, I'veonly been to a handful, but
every single one I've been tohas been phenomenal.
And that's what I mean earlier,like, I think the community is

(34:04):
such an incredible aspect,knowing that everybody's there
for Pokémon.
Something that we can all agreeon, You know, there's a lot of
people that maybe I would'venever talked to if, you know, we
weren't there in person.
You know, and we would get tohang out and chat and whatnot.

David Hernandez (34:16):
that's the one thing I enjoy about the Pokemon
franchise is that, you know,it's very diverse I feel the
same way to where I've got achance to meet people and talk
with people.
Had I not been more investedinto this franchise as I am now,
I never would have met theseguys.
It would have never happened.
And of the beautiful part abouthow, no matter where you come
from, the main series, TCG, Go,whatever have you, we all get

(34:37):
connected because of Pokemon.

Glowl (34:39):
okay.
I've never said this out loudbefore, but I'm going to say it.
So if this person's watching,there's a chance that this is a
person's watching, this is foryou.
I don't know if I'd have had anyof these opportunities, at least
nowhere near this early, if itwasn't for Pokemon cast, you
know, for gravitation, it's likea stream team.
I got added to that.
And I think that kind of likereally helped out a lot.

(35:01):
you

David Hernandez (35:01):
That's important to kind of give credit
to the people who've helped youon the not one journey's not
done by one person.

Glowl (35:07):
true, very true.

David Hernandez (35:08):
And then what's amazing is, you know, eventually
you get to become a partner forPokemon Masters Ex, which is I
think the phone app, right?

Glowl (35:13):
Yeah, yeah, it's a little gacha game.
You get to collect thecharacters and do some battles.

David Hernandez (35:19):
And you know, what was it like to kind of
become a part of just actualwhole game of a Pokemon

Glowl (35:23):
It's, it's, it's weird.
I don't know.
I'm still so little in thisspace, and so it feels like,
once again, I don't know if Ideserve it, but it's so cool to
know that like, these people atleast like, feel like I deserve
it, I guess.
Yeah,

David Hernandez (35:39):
it's not like not like they give it to
everybody That's

Glowl (35:42):
cool because the game is super fun and, uh, to be able to
like, showcase that and, youknow, tell people about maybe a
game that they wouldn't because,you know, it's a gotcha game.
It's not quite the same as whatyou would normally play if
you're playing Pokemon go or theTCG games or whatnot.
It is a little bit different,but, no, it's definitely, that's
how I love collecting thecharacters in that game.
I'm always interested.

David Hernandez (36:01):
Last thing I want to touch on is you know how
we met or how I met you youtalked and go fest in New York
City, was it like to go to gofest in New York?

Glowl (36:11):
as far as like the actual Pokemon experience goes, like
going there for the game,incredible.
there was only one part in GrandCentral Park, I believe you were
probably there, where like theservice was down.
We couldn't do nothing.

David Hernandez (36:24):
yes.
I uh, it was like whereeverybody was conjugated

Glowl (36:27):
yeah, we were like running into another raid train
group and so that was like theonly downside But I definitely
felt worth it, you know, I gotthe the ticket to the park on
Saturday morning I took theferry there I was just trying to
make the most out of it as Icould because I don't get to go
to these events a whole Lot.
Um, so when I was there, I waslike, okay, I'm like, I'm gonna
do everything, right?
I'm gonna do everything I can asfar as like Pokemon stuff goes

David Hernandez (36:48):
when you're on that ferry, did you have like
flashbacks of Pokemon black andwhite when, you

Glowl (36:52):
Yes, yes, actually yes We're going under the bridge and
it's like, wait, this is, thisis just like the game.

David Hernandez (36:58):
Right.
Yeah.

Glowl (36:59):
Yeah, that was so cool.

David Hernandez (37:00):
Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt, but I had to

Glowl (37:02):
No, no, that's, that's a perfect like thing to say.
I don't know if I would'vethought about saying that, cause
you know, the universe based abit off New York and you know,
to be there in where that regionwould be, it was so cool.

David Hernandez (37:12):
I think that was the interesting part for me
because, you know, I love blackand white as well.
And like, I literally would likemy mind would just go between
Pokemon black and white in NewYork city.
I get this reference, especiallyI think Castelia city.
You think this is a big one.
see a lot of the references fromNew York in that city.
It's great.
Yes.

Glowl (37:32):
like, the little, like, carts where you could buy, like,
Castellia cones and stuff.
I remember walking at, forGoFest, and they'd have these
little carts with, like, this, Idon't know if it, what was it,
ice cream?
It was, like, some kind of,like, ice something.
They were, it was, like, fruitice something.
It was so good.
That was, like, one of the bestthings, this, uh, this little
ice fruit cup.

David Hernandez (37:48):
Yeah, it's different for me too because you
know here in Texas we don't gotthat and I'm going there I'm
like dude, this is awesome.
They

Glowl (37:53):
Yeah, there was so fun stuff.

David Hernandez (37:55):
that's great Oh, man, we kind of geeked out
on that

Glowl (37:58):
I mean, it was so much fun though, how could you not?

David Hernandez (38:00):
I know it's great, man

Glowl (38:02):
Listeners, if you've not been to a GoFest yet, try your
best to get to one, they're socool.

David Hernandez (38:06):
Yeah, or just any uh live

Glowl (38:08):
Yeah, any pokemon event.

David Hernandez (38:09):
zone or uh, the tour.
So if you can go to like thetours, if you can go to like a
safari zone, go fest, whatever,have, you can go to any Pokemon,
even a, any IC or regionals.
It's always worth it.
If you're a huge Pokemon fan,because you're around people who
are just like you, because ifyou're listening to this
podcast, you're probably aPokemon fan to

Glowl (38:27):
You probably like Pokemon, yeah, yeah.

David Hernandez (38:29):
I hope so.
If you're blogging for my voice,then, Hey, uh, for listening.

Glowl (38:33):
If you've made it this far and you're not a Pokemon
fan, you might as well just goget one of the games and start
playing, because I think youlike it.
I think into it.

David Hernandez (38:41):
I think we're on a hunch, you know, just
saying.
Well, Glow, thank you for comingon the show.
I want to finish on this lastquestion.

Glowl (38:48):
Okay, all right, we

David Hernandez (38:49):
If you had a, team of shiny Pokemon,

Glowl (38:52):
Okay, got it, got it, got it.
All right, Porygon Z, I wouldlike Palossand, Politoed,
Giraffarig.
Um, now we're getting a littlebit tricky here.
Let's do, oh, I mean, you knowwhat?
Let's go with Ampharos andBreloom.

David Hernandez (39:06):
Okay.
Any of those your favorite bychance?

Glowl (39:09):
It's like really tie up between Ampharos and Breloom as
my favorite Pokemon.

David Hernandez (39:12):
why either or?

Glowl (39:14):
Uh, I don't know, I have like weird, I don't really know
if I have great reasons for whyI like certain Pokemon.
Sometimes I just see one and I'mlike, yep, that's one.
That's one I like a lot.
Sometimes there's a story behindit, but with these two there
really isn't.
There really no, I just thinkthey look good.

David Hernandez (39:30):
Hey, that's fair.
For me, I always, love Ampharosbecause of Pokemon Silver with
Jasmine.

Glowl (39:35):
yeah, you gotta make it help, help it feel better.
Maybe that's it.
Maybe that is what it is.
Yeah.

David Hernandez (39:40):
could be, you never know, man.
But Glau, thank you for comingon as the Pokeball turns.
Before you go, if people want tocheck out your content, if they
want to connect with you, wherecan they go?
By all means, please plug away.

Glowl (39:50):
you can find me live on Twitch tv slash glo, every
Sunday, Monday, Wednesday, andThursday around 11:00 PM est.
Sometimes earlier, sometimeslater.
Depends on how my, how busy Iam.
Instagram, at it's glo you know,we got blue sky, we got threads
pretty much at its cloud.
You know, if you want watch someYouTube content Cloud.
Yeah.
That's about it.
Which TV is the place you canfind the most though?

David Hernandez (40:12):
Yeah, go check out his old 10 year old video
when he's like little camcorderon the

Glowl (40:16):
There's some of them up there.
They're still up there.
I left them up there.

David Hernandez (40:19):
I can testify.
I just watched him before thisinterview

Glowl (40:24):
Yeah, they're there.
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