January 29, 2025 • 38 mins
In this Pokemon interview, we are joined by Out of Context Pokemon, a Pokemon Trainers who creates Pokemon media that is presented out of context.
Out of Context Pokemon starts his journey as a young child watching the Pokemon anime. He dives into his interest in watching Ash Ketchum progress through the different regions.
It was until Hoenn where Out of Context had his first experience with the games. Out of Context Pokemon compares how different it was playing the Pokemon games compared to watching the anime. Despite playing until Generation 4, due to finances, he was unable to continue playing the Pokemon games and continued to engage with the franchise through the anime.
Eventually Out of Context Pokemon returns to the videos games with Pokemon Sword and Shield. He shares his experience at playing an open world game compared to the last pixel games he remembered. He also starts to slowly dive into the Pokemon TCG where he would collect certain cards.
Finally, Out of Context Pokemon gives insight into become the new owner of the Twitter account he oversees and what led him to taking on that type of role. He gives insight into the type of content he creates and his roles within the online Pokemon Community.
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Episode Transcript
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Out of Context Pokemon (00:00):
I am OutOfContextPokemon and this is
my Pokemon story.
David Hernandez (00:43):
welcome to As the Pokeball Turns, where we
interview people about theirexperience with Pokemon My name
is David Hernandez I'm joined byOutOfContextPokemon, here to
step out of the scenes ofTwitterverse And share the
Pokemon story.
Oh, Oh, see, welcome to thepodcast.
Out of Context Pokemon (01:01):
Ah, thank you, thank you.
Though, uh, I guess for, uh,simplicity's sake, you can refer
to me as Kazuhira.
David Hernandez (01:10):
So, you know, before we dive into things, for
those who don't know, you havean X or Twitter account that
posts Pokemon content that kindof mixes with like, I guess
we're world or maybe pastexperiences.
What made you kind of want tostart this content,
Out of Context Pokemon (01:26):
Well, funny story, actually.
I am, actually not the originalowner, but the original owner
themselves, which I'm not goingto name out of, you know,
privacy, they wanted out becausethey were so tired, or rather
they feel personally tired ofrunning the account and they
just wanted to give it away tosomeone who's willing to take
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over.
And Yeah, that would be me andmy co owner, Sammy.
David Hernandez (01:53):
since you took it over, did you have like a
connection with them at thetime?
And what made you kind of wantto step up into this role?
Out of Context Pokemon (02:00):
Well No, I did not have any connection,
but I was one of the people whomessaged out of, you know,
interest to keep the page alive.
And I guess what made me want tostep up with it is because
before that announcement wasmade, I was already running One
or two Pokemon Twitter pages atthe time, but as a moderator, I
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don't own them.
That would be Pokemon WorldTweets and Miju with Pokemon
Music.
David Hernandez (02:29):
Oh, that's awesome.
I didn't know you did that one.
Out of Context Pokemon (02:31):
Yeah, unfortunately the first,
unfortunately the first one gothacked last year, so, you know,
that's, that's pretty muchhistory.
David Hernandez (02:37):
No, I was going to say, it's kind of cool how
you kind of had differentavenues, I guess, to kind of
express the Pokemon interest.
Out of Context Pokemon (02:46):
Yeah, funny thing about that, cause it
used to have like, less than 2,000 followers, but by the time I
signed up to be a mod, well,look at it now, it's almost at
32, 000 followers, but yeah,tangent aside, yeah, I just
wanted to keep the page alive.
And, uh, I guess Sammy was the,you know, The original guy who
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was given the keys and then wehad the third guy coming with
us, which I'm not going to alsoname because, you know, they
want to be private, but therewere three of us.
We had a bit of a fumbling aboutbecause we were trying to, I
guess get a feel for what thecontent was.
And, uh, I guess after somepersonal disagreements with the
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original owner, me and Sammyjust took it upon ourselves to
run it on our own.
Uh, except, Sammy prefers to,you know, I guess stick as an
advisor of sorts.
And that gives me being thequote unquote main owner and
practically the public face ofthis page.
David Hernandez (03:53):
So we'll dive into more of the Twitter side of
things later, but I kind of wantto start like, When did you
first became interested in thisfranchise?
Where does it all start?
Out of Context Pokemon (04:02):
Huh, I guess even before I turned like
two years old I guess likebecause I was born at the time
when the anime series, theoriginal one, They, you know,
they released the 4Kids dub onour country's, broadcasting
scheduling.
And I still remember watching,the Indigo League on that, you
(04:26):
know, one of those old TVs thosesquare ones that if you try to
carry you definitely have to becareful otherwise you'll, uh,
crush your fingers underneath.
Heh heh heh.
David Hernandez (04:38):
We call that a box TVs over here where I'm
from.
And they'd be like the one giantones where you'd be like
sometimes two or three people tocarry.
Out of Context Pokemon (04:46):
Yeah, that one.
It was a Japanese TV too, sodefinitely one of the top of the
line TVs at the time.
David Hernandez (04:53):
So you said you started an anime, so you were
watching Ash Ketchum trying togo through his journey with
Misty and Brock and goingthrough the Indigo League, I
assume,
Out of Context Pokemon (05:01):
Yes, I was there since the beginning,
so anyone who, anyone who daressay that I wasn't there since
the beginning, well, I can sendthem photos of, you know,
myself, or rather, my one yearold self watching the anime
series, like I have it here,actually, under my bed.
David Hernandez (05:20):
really?
You the old VHS tabs and stufflike that.
Out of Context Pokemon (05:24):
Nah, no photos.
We're, you know, I guess, youknow, you know, we're, know, you
know, you know our parents.
They, they always want to takephotos of us when we were kids.
Even when we're not doinganything.
So, yeah, one of those photos isme watching the TV and
apparently Ash is in that TV.
David Hernandez (05:43):
So for me, when I grew up, you know, they had
the Polaroids and the like onetime cameras or Kodak's.
Did you have those?
Or is it kind of more you had togo digital at that point?
Out of Context Pokemon (05:53):
No, no, it was still at the time when
Kodaks were still the, you know,the dominating force in, uh,
cameras.
David Hernandez (06:00):
that's what I remember because I would always
take photos because back in theday when selfies were becoming a
thing and my mom would get on tome, but like, why are you
wasting all this film takingselfies?
She didn't understand it, but Iwas using her Kodak camera to
try to take a selfie because Ididn't have a phone back then,
Out of Context Pokemon (06:17):
Yeah, but yeah, that's the very first,
uh, exposure to the series,which is funny because most of
the experiences that kids inAmerica have something to relate
to are the games, you know,Pokemon Red and Blue, but not
me, not me, not me.
You know, my parents neverentertained the idea of giving
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me a Gameboy since, well, I'mone year old.
I mean, who, who, who would evengive a one year old a Gameboy,
let alone a cartridge?
David Hernandez (06:48):
That's fair.
So, because, you know, youdidn't play with red and blue,
you're basically washing ashthrough his journey for the
longest time.
When did you kind of, I guess,dive into maybe the trading
cards or the video game side of
Out of Context Pokemon (06:59):
Well, I guess video game, it really all
started in 2003 with PokemonRuby, when it was still brand
new and the cartridge just costlike 30 bucks with the original
box and everything.
David Hernandez (07:15):
Oh, I miss those
Out of Context Pokemon (07:16):
Yeah, though it wasn't my copy.
It was my cousin's actually.
you know, because we, we alwaysdo these, family visits on
occasions.
And one of those occasions,they, you know, my cousins, they
came in with their flashy GameBoy Advance SPs at the time.
And you know back then if youowned a Gameboy Advance SP
you're practically a walkingrich kid.
David Hernandez (07:40):
Yep.
Out of Context Pokemon (07:43):
Yeah, so they asked me like, do you like
Pokemon?
You know, you want to try it?
And you know, being the,impressionable child I was, I,
I, you know, I tried it and Istill remember that my first,
partner is Torchic actually.
David Hernandez (08:01):
Hmm.
Okay.
Out of Context Pokemon (08:02):
Torchic, and I still have vivid memories
of them making fun of my othercousin for choosing Trico.
David Hernandez (08:12):
Oh, why'd they make fun of them?
Out of Context Pokemon (08:14):
I have no idea, but I'm going to take a
wild assumption that it'sbecause of its
David Hernandez (08:23):
Uh, that makes sense.
Yeah.
Out of Context Pokemon (08:25):
Yeah, but
David Hernandez (08:26):
types.
They always get the made fun ofall the
Out of Context Pokemon (08:28):
I know, right?
But that's with the games.
TCG, I am, well, super, superlate.
I have never collected TCGs inthose years.
So, I guess you can say that Imissed out on the real golden
age of trading cards for thePokemon series.
it all started in December 2021when I ordered, singles from a
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local shopping site.
One of those, cards was atrainer card of Hop.
And I guess, I just got draggedin, cause I really love the idea
of collecting cards and, myfirst set, real set, proper set
would be, uh, Sword and ShieldLost Origins.
And my very first, you know,what they call a hit or slash
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chase card is the Aerodactylactually.
and I only found out becausesomeone mentioned that I
practically, regained my onetime in quote unquote
investment.
Idiots.
David Hernandez (09:32):
Oh my gosh.
He's like, Oh, you made all yourmoney back from this arid
actopole.
Out of Context Pokemon (09:36):
Yeah, I mean, I had no idea at the time,
but I knew that, you know, itwas going to be a very
interesting hobby.
David Hernandez (09:45):
do you still collect the TCG nowadays?
Or is it kind of something youjust dabble in sometimes?
Out of Context Pokemon (09:50):
I recently went back actually.
In fact, I've been actively,publicly humiliating scalpers
left and right Cause, uh, youknow, they made it personal with
me when they, uh, flooded thesite when I was about to check
out one box.
Uh, yeah.
David Hernandez (10:08):
Oh, man, that's why I'm grateful that I'm not
that deep in the TCG right now,because that all would just ruin
it for me.
I think, you know,
Out of Context Pokemon (10:15):
Yeah, but thankfully I have, friends
and partners that I can rely onshould I really want a box or
two.
really, it's not a huge loss forme, unlike most people.
David Hernandez (10:29):
So, when you first started diving into the
video game silos, Rubin's halfwas your first game.
Were you still keeping up withthe anime at that point?
Like, were you just watching theanime like every day up to
access journey?
Out of Context Pokemon (10:38):
Mm hmm, yes, but I guess by the time
Black and White rolled out I,kind of stopped and diverged
from there because Funny story,because you you don't hear this
often but There was anotherseries competing for my
favorite.
That was Digimon
David Hernandez (10:56):
Oh, yes,
Out of Context Pokemon (10:58):
And you know, of course I loved it as
well in fact Jason Page's introis really iconic.
I still, still know the lyricsfrom heart.
But, if we're talking aboutendings, Digimon takes the cake.
especially the original endingfor Season 1, which is, uh, you
know, I Wish by Ai Maeda.
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Ah,
David Hernandez (11:20):
So going back to playing Ruby Pokemon, Ruby
and Sapphire, what do youremember most about playing
those first Pokemon games?
Did you feel like you were kindof living the anime world at
that point, or did you kind offeel like it was a different
adventure?
Out of Context Pokemon (11:31):
It was a totally different adventure.
And I guess the most memorablepart of the games really was the
music.
Yeah.
David Hernandez (11:40):
music that sticks out
Out of Context Pokemo (11:42):
Petalburg City.
David Hernandez (11:43):
Oh, yes.
Out of Context Pokemon (11:45):
that's one of the most memorable like,
themes for me in that game and,The Starting Town, I forgot its
name actually.
David Hernandez (11:53):
Uh, little Root
Out of Context Pokemon (11:54):
Little Road Town, yeah, that's forever
etched in my memory.
And, it wasn't, it was anentirely different experience
compared to watching the anime.
but, you know, but it's still asmemorable.
as it was when I first startedit.
David Hernandez (12:08):
for me.
The songs that stick to my head.
Is one for tree city.
Out of Context Pokemon (12:13):
Ah,
David Hernandez (12:15):
Yep.
I love that song the most.
And I always loved the secondone was the underwater theme.
Out of Context Pokemon (12:21):
the, what's his face, the dive team.
David Hernandez (12:24):
Yes, yes
Out of Context Pokemon (12:25):
Yeah, I mean, it's funny, unless you're,
I guess, IGN, which, you know,they're gonna stay away from it.
David Hernandez (12:32):
well IGN doesn't have good taste, but
that's me But I've always wantedlike the underwater theme as
like a lullaby because it's justso soothing I could literally
fall asleep to it.
That's how good it is for me.
So I play gen 1, but I'm a gen3, baby I love the gen 3 games
the music was one of the mostappealing parts besides the
whole world, of course
Out of Context Pokemon (12:51):
Oh yeah, I mean story wise and game
mechanics, it's really the musicthat sets it apart for me.
they never fail to, you know,amaze me with the music every
single time.
David Hernandez (13:02):
What did you think of the remakes?
You know, Omega Ruby and AlphaSapphire.
Did you get a chance toexperience those games?
Out of Context Pokemon (13:08):
Ah, unfortunately, I am one of those
people who have neverexperienced the 3DS era because
I was in college at the timeand, you know, being a, college
kid, I have no money.
David Hernandez (13:25):
Oh my gosh.
I mean, it's true though.
I mean, we're in college.
We're kind of broke.
So we don't really got the kindof money to put out for those
kind of games.
Out of Context Pokemon (13:31):
Yeah, but I was actively hearing about
talks of sun and moon around2016.
And, that's, uh, when it startedto up slowly but surely because
around the time Sword and Shieldwas announced, and I, I really
wanted it because, you know,they evolved from what I used to
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play in a Game Boy to theSwitch, it was really impressive
for me, so, you know, back thenI wasn't aware that behind the
scenes fans were actively, youknow, fighting each other over a
damn tree.
Yeah, it's pathetic, really.
Like, really, out of all thethings you could argue about.
Really?
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But, it took a while for me toget a Switch.
In fact, I guess it's meant tobe, because around January 2020,
I bought my first Switch.
And, funny enough, it's theSword and Shield Lite Edition.
David Hernandez (14:30):
Ooh.
You really dived into all ofsword and shield.
Like that really hooked you backin fully into Pokemon.
Out of Context Pokemon (14:37):
and I guess a few days later, my
friend gifted me a gift card tobasically buy shield and I guess
that's how it all started again.
David Hernandez (14:48):
Now I've got to ask you, cause you know, it's
two different legendaries.
Which did you prefer?
Did you prefer Zamazenta orZacian?
Out of Context Pokem (14:54):
Zamazenta.
David Hernandez (14:55):
Oh, the shield dog.
Hey, all right.
You're the only other personI've ever met who prefers
Zamazenta.
Out of Context Pokemon (15:01):
Yeah.
I made sure Zacian is useful forSingles and double battles, but
Zamazenta is my personal pickalways it just looks, you know,
it just Appeals to me really andA dog wearing a shield.
It looks funny to me
David Hernandez (15:19):
So you said, you know, you skipped out of all
of the 3ds era because you just,you know, broke college kid,
right?
What was it like to kind ofreturn to Pokemon's experience
sword and shield after your lastPokemon game before that?
Out of Context Pokemon (15:31):
Ah amazing it's like I guess it's
like jumping from the PS1 andimmediately to the PS4 or 3.
You know like everything aboutit was amazing and again as
always the music is what sets itapart for me.
David Hernandez (15:49):
was it kind of overwhelming to kind of be open
world to kind of see thegraphics and everything?
Out of Context Pokemon (15:53):
no, but it was definitely something that
I did not expect from Pokemon,cause It was linear when back in
the days, but you know for youto freely explore things and
unlock Routes as you go.
It was amazing I guess the onlything I didn't like was the
story because what's his facehere you do know solar power is
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a thing, right?
David Hernandez (16:18):
Yes.
Yep.
Out of Context Pokemon (16:19):
Yeah
David Hernandez (16:20):
in the Pokemon world.
It already does exist.
It was ahead of its time.
Out of Context Pokemon (16:24):
Yeah, and, you know, this is more of a
personal vendetta than acriticism of the game, but I
vehemently hate the Sword andShield twins, Swordbert and
Shieldbert.
God, I hate them.
I hope they, I hope they dievery soon.
David Hernandez (16:41):
Damn.
He really does not like thesepeople.
Okay.
Out of Context Pokemon (16:44):
Like, you know, the moment they op
they started speaking, I just, Iwhen they start when they
started to open their mouth, Iwas like, oh my god, shut the
fuck up and die already!
David Hernandez (16:59):
Wow.
So they just annoyed you fromthe get go.
Out of Context Pokemon (17:02):
Yeah, like, before Sword and Shield,
the last character that did thisfor me was, uh, and I mean this
with no, you know, toxic intent,Sans, from Undertale.
Like, you know, like, not theboss battle, but, you know, just
simply his existence irritatesthe hell out of me.
But, you know, Swordbird andShieldbird were, you know, were
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pretty much experts at this morethan sans.
So, yeah, they're, you know,they're still my, you know, my
most hated characters in prettymuch out of every franchise.
And, you know, I still hope Thatin in that world they die a
horrible and painful death
David Hernandez (17:43):
that's the third version where you get a
chance to torture him howeveryou want, okay?
It'll be Pokemon guillotine foryou.
Out of Context Pokemon (17:51):
Yeah but yeah, It really is a wonderful
experience to play shield whenall when all the games you
played on pokemon wasPractically just on a game boy
really so Personally, I feellike, you know, I mean, and I
mean no disrespect, but, I feellike Pokemon fans generally
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just, come off as rude andungrateful, really.
David Hernandez (18:16):
In what way?
Out of Context Pokemon (18:17):
I guess, you know, like, like, sure, no
game is perfect, but toactively, nitpick every single
thing, and worst of all,harassing other fans for simply
loving the game.
It's just, you know, insanity,really.
David Hernandez (18:33):
I think that's kind of something more recent
for example, people nowadays,they want the voice acting.
They want a more grittier plot.
Pokemon's never been either ofthose things.
You know, the grittiest plot weever get is Pokemon Colosseum
back in GameCube days.
If you know, you know, and eventhen it's kind of tame.
And even, you know, voiceacting, I know that's huge, but
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for me growing up, a lot ofpeople wanted the 3d graphics,
which we have now, people werelike, why are y'all still using
the bit graphics?
You know, Pokemon black andwhite was the last one where
they felt like, Oh, it's beyond,you know, they should have gone
to what we got that now themodels.
And for me, I look at it, I'mlike, I kind of missed the
graphics, but.
You know, I've been in Pokemon along time since day one.
So, well, not day one, but atleast, you know, early days,
Out of Context Pokemon (19:17):
Yeah, good, good, good, yeah, cause, I
guess I wasn't active in thecommunity until 2000 and late
2022.
So, you know, basically to startoff in 2023.
No, no, no, correction,correction.
It was late 2021 because by thetime March 2022 rolled out, I
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already joined the World Tweetsaccount as a mod.
David Hernandez (19:42):
Oh my gosh.
I'm sorry.
That's where your sanity went.
Out of Context Pokemon (19:46):
So, you know, back then, I, uh,
witnessed a lot of dramaticstuff, especially when Scarlet
and Violet came out.
Yeah,
David Hernandez (19:56):
still like people for some reason, still
dog on those games.
I'm like, yo, yeah, there's somegraphical issues, but that
game's honestly on at least topfive, almost to me, maybe even
top two.
It's that high that I love thosegames.
But like you said, a lot ofpeople look more towards.
What they didn't do right thanwhat they did right, if that
makes sense.
Out of Context Pokemon (20:15):
yeah.
I guess the only weird decisionfor me that I still don't
understand to this day was, whyEd Sheeran?
Like, what's, what's, what's thereasoning, you know?
David Hernandez (20:25):
I thought he was, I thought he grew up a
Pokemon fan.
Out of Context Pokemon (20:27):
I mean, aside from that, like, you know,
on, uh, I guess I'm just tryingto understand, out of all the
things they could do, why EdSheeran, of all people, do a
credit song, cause it, I, I, youknow, like, yeah, I just
finished, you know, the AreaZero story, happy ending, and
then Ed Sheeran just pops up andlike, huh?
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What's going on?
David Hernandez (20:51):
Hey, I'll tell you what, when I have Ed Sheeran
on the podcast, I'll ask himthat question for you.
If I ever, okay, I don't thinkI'll ever get him, but still,
you know, I can dream.
Who would you want though?
Who would you, if it wasn't forEd Sheeran, who would you have
wanted to sing a song instead?
Out of Context Pokemon (21:06):
Uh, well, he's dead now, but if he
was still alive, I guess MichaelJackson.
or if, we're talking aboutartists that are still active in
any way, Rick Astley.
because, you know, he has a veryrich voice that I think, Will do
well on a credit song like that
David Hernandez (22:14):
So, you know, you starting the Twitter
account, you took it over at thetime.
How has it been to kind of keepup with the content to kind of
put a tweet out for people tokind of enjoy?
Is it been challenging or has itbeen something that's kind of
easy for you to do?
Um,
Out of Context Pokemon (22:27):
It was challenging at first because I
guess you can equate this to adetective sifting through
folders of old cases.
It's like that, except I wasbrowsing through literal
hundreds and thousands ofpictures just to see which the
audience would like.
And I guess, slowly but surely,I started to branch out with
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just remaining out of contextonly.
I mean, I've been posting, youknow, intro songs, archive stuff
like the very first Pokemoncommercial for the US, not the
Red and Blue but the anime.
And, with the blessing of theowner, Reposting stuff that we
edited for media with pokemonmusic Like you know, repost our
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old edits as good morning slashgood night post.
Cause, you know, we want to,well rather, I wanted to, uh,
you know, start their day with,and end their day with a funny
video cause I, personallyspeaking, I wouldn't want to
start my morning on a very, verysour note.
as much as possible, I want totry and, Give the audience, or
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anyone, visiting the page,really, something to look at
before their day starts slashends, really.
David Hernandez (23:41):
You basically want people who visit that pays
it's the first thing they seekind of bring cheers them up in
a way
Out of Context Pokemon (23:46):
Yeah, because, I guess a bit of
backstory about the page and theoriginal owner.
The original owner, based on myobservations, They love to argue
with people and not justspecific ones.
it could be anyone that theydon't like, especially.
So, you know, back then theywere basically breeding hate on
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specific people.
No rather, any people really onthat platform.
Doesn't matter if you're IGN, anews company.
a transphobe person or simplythey just don't like you You
know, if you're on their side,you're very damn well expected
to show up on their profile andwith them making fun of you or
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something and you know when Itook over and we parted ways on
a very sour note Basically, Itook it upon myself to rebrand
the page away from theiridentity and their past and
basically just turn it intosomething where anyone
regardless whether they followus or not and whether they're a
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pokemon fan or not it is a pagewhere they can expect to see
stuff that will cheer them uprather than you know upset them
like what the previous owner did
David Hernandez (25:04):
What was the response once you decided to
shift, you know, away from abase?
It sounds like trolling orattacking people to be in, I
guess, more wholesome and tokind of make more engaging,
funny content.
Out of Context Pokemon (25:15):
Ah, well, there was a small group of
people me and sammy called theoomphies because
David Hernandez (25:24):
The old piece.
Out of Context Pokemon (25:25):
yeah because they were personally or
rather unintentionally sent outby the original owner against us
they were basically not happywith what we were trying to do
and
David Hernandez (25:37):
Oh, wow.
Out of Context Pokemon (25:38):
you know just took every opportunity
especially mistakes to like,criticize us or even downright
make fun of us But thankfullymajority of the people were like
shut the fuck up get out of here
David Hernandez (25:51):
Dang.
So the owner even was againstyou trying to rebrand it, even
though they gave it to you.
Out of Context Pokemon (25:56):
No, no like Like not against but like
they were actively making fun ofme and sammy even before we left
on a sour note like they thoughtthey're slick, but back then
when they still haven't blockedus, I was checking on their
profile from time to time andsometimes I'd see them co
tweeting one of our posts and,you know, just them making fun
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of us for it.
so, you know, I'm really gladthat, they block us and, you
know, I block him, block himback because really.
those, those types of people inthe fandom are the ones that,
you know, ruins the community ina sense, because all they do is
nothing but breed discord and,you know, so chaos amongst
community members.
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So, you know, for me to, youknow, practically erase every
single bit of their identity, itwas cathartic and I guess.
at the same time, I'm proud thatI practically turned it into a
page where anyone, regardless oftheir status and community can
feel welcome to and not fearbeing prejudiced.
David Hernandez (26:59):
Now you're in a situation to where you're kind
of a faceless content creator.
People don't really, you don'treally post your face at all.
What is it kind of like to beable to kind of observe the
community from that standpointto where you're posting stuff
and you kind of see, I guess thetalking heads around the
community around you.
Out of Context Pokemon (27:15):
It's very interesting'cause A lot of
people look up to the page.
In fact, where I live, monthsago, I found out that they
practically treat me like acelebrity here.
David Hernandez (27:27):
Really?
Out of Context Pokemon (27:28):
Yeah, I mean, there are artists that
personally knows who I really ambehind the scenes, but that's
because, I would visit their artstalls during conventions.
And after buying Pokemonstickers, keychains, you know,
anything really.
I would ask them to check theirDiscord for a special surprise,
and the last thing I would hearfrom them is, I guess, you know,
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they're just gleeing with joy.
David Hernandez (27:51):
Oh, you make their day.
Out of Context Pokemon (27:53):
Yeah, that was the reason why I did
it, but, you know, on a grandscale, nah, I don't go around
saying, hey, I'm this guy, youknow.
Like, that's stupid really.
David Hernandez (28:03):
I was going about to ask you, like, if you
go out, tell people you'reactually OOC.
So you kind of keep it privatefrom who you are in the public
sector.
Out of Context Pokemon (28:10):
Yeah, but if it's with, you know,
friends that really knows me.
And, you know, artists, locallyspeaking.
Nah, I'm okay with them knowing,cause, I trust them.
David Hernandez (28:23):
I was wondering, so why wouldn't you
want that notoriety?
Because clearly, you know,you're a celebrity in your local
area.
Do you not want that attention?
I guess everywhere.
Out of Context Pokemon (28:33):
I guess it just feels weird, cause I'm
not used to such status or, youknow, affectionate feelings from
other people, because That'spretty much it, really.
I'm just not used to it, youknow, being treated like a
celebrity because uh, I just dowhat I do out what I love,
really, and I'm not doing thisfor fame Um,
David Hernandez (28:53):
I think that's so great because sometimes.
When people taste that kind ofstardom, I guess, or that
attention, it goes to their headand they start kind of believing
their own hype.
They start thinking they're allthat it's easy to get kind of
arrogant and overconfident, butthen for you, you don't care for
it.
You just want to enjoy Pokemonand kind of be a part of the
community as a whole.
Out of Context Pokemon (29:14):
yeah, I have to admit, I did use that
platform to try and get a leg upin the job sector.
Cause, you know, I've beenmanaging social media accounts
for years now so, to basicallytell the company I'm applying
for that, you know, I run thispage, they'll definitely be
impressed and possibly wouldwant to hire me but that's
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pretty much it really.
David Hernandez (29:38):
we were talking about the social media side of
just.
Content creation in the earlier.
You said you had to kind of findout what your audience liked.
How did you go about doing thatcreating the content and finding
out people who follow you onTwitter or I'm sorry X liked
when it comes to what you donow.
Out of Context Pokemo (29:56):
basically observed as time passed by.
Oh, and I guess I did ask some,I did some polls, but that's,
those were more like community,focus in mind.
Like, what do you think is thebest game, best explorer, best
PMD game in existence and stufflike that.
And I guess from there, I justslowly caught on, on what they
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really like, like, aside fromout of context images and
videos.
You know, I just started tonotice that they really like the
funny, the funny stuff more.
And, the wholesome stuff, like,I've noticed that even though it
didn't get many, even though itdidn't reach like a thousand
likes or so, I've noticed that,there is a group of people that
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really enjoys, the morewholesome side of Pokemon, like,
say, Concierge, the Netflixseries.
as of recent, they're startingto like the more wholesome
content.
And, I guess, this is obvious,but, you know, seeing the
biggest, Pokemon fan slashgimmick page, publicly
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humiliating scalpers left andright 24 7.
David Hernandez (31:04):
You kind of become the superhero in a way,
Out of Context Pokemon (31:06):
Yeah, I mean, I'm not afraid to, call
out bad actors within thecommunity as OOC.
In fact, let them come, andI'll, you know, and I'll have
the, and I'll have the newsready for them.
Um,
David Hernandez (31:19):
what response have you ever gotten any like
private messages of peoplethanking you for some of the
content you post?
Out of Context Pokemon (31:25):
yeah, the most memorable for me.
Was, when I was still startingout as the public face and lead
owner of OOC, like, I posted agoodnight post and it was the
full ending of platinum.
And you know, just out ofnowhere, a follower messaged the
page they were basically saying,thank you for posting that,
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that, they always have a badtime and, you know, to see us or
see me posting the full endingand it appearing on their
timeline, it just, basically,you know, ended their day on a
much more positive note than itnormally is.
And you know, I still wonderwhat happened to that person to
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this day.
Cause it was really heartwarmingto receive a message like that
back then.
And it still is to this day.
I don't receive much of itnowadays, but that's one of the
most memorable fan DMs that Iever got as OOC.
David Hernandez (32:20):
It reminds me of that cliche saying nowadays,
but still kind of true.
You never know what people arekind of battling and sometimes a
kind word or a kind gesture inthis case, maybe a funny post.
Can kind of change things forpeople.
Out of Context Pokemon (32:34):
Yeah, that's why, you know, I always
make it a point and focus tojust, do what I love while at
the same time give the audiencewhat they'd like to see or what
I believe they'd like to seeand, you know, get a laugh out
of it.
Really?
David Hernandez (32:50):
My last question, just in regards to
OOC, you have Porygon as kind ofthe logo.
Is that also the favoritePokemon
Out of Context Pokemon (32:58):
It's my favorite too, but when the owner
was still the owner, it was aPorgon Z.
You know, I reverted it back tothe Porgon 2 one.
it's funny, because it wasn'tsupposed to be shiny, but I
said, if we gained a millionfollowers again, I will change
this into a shiny and I stuckwith my word
David Hernandez (33:19):
And now you've got the shiny Porygon too.
Out of Context Pokemon (33:21):
Yeah, it really is and we contacted an
artist to commission a newprofile picture for us.
like aside from what I normallydo We also do our best to help,
artists who I believe should bepopular more than most people.
And I'm also partnered with alot of shops and so many,
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wonderful people who, you know,who sells merchandise.
You know, like, a normal store,not those, idiots that sells
things at 300 percent above theMSRP.
the few ones that, uh, That hasbeen with us since the
beginning.
It will be Fun Lab and HobbyGenki.
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And if it wasn't for them, thenwe would have never attracted
the attention of our, you know,now existing partnerships with
other shops and people.
David Hernandez (34:18):
so you said Porygon2 is your favorite.
What is it about Porygon2 thatmade it solidified your
favorite?
Was it like a moment or was itjust something about it?
Out of Context Pokemon (34:26):
It's one of my favorites, I guess it's
because, you know, there's tworeasons.
One is because, you know, whywould you hate that little guy?
It looks cute.
David Hernandez (34:36):
True, true.
Out of Context Pokemon (34:37):
And the other is, uh, it was a VGC
moment when I was still activelyparticipating in Sword and
Shield Online Battles.
There was this Porgon2 that washolding some sort of item,
Eviolite if I'm correct.
David Hernandez (34:52):
Yes.
Out of Context Pokemon (34:52):
You know, it was, you know, I was
trying my best to like, youknow, knock it out, but it just,
stood it on its own two feet.
And I guess it really justdefined who Porgon2 is for me
aside from being cute.
And I guess the real star of thefavorites would be, you know
mainly fire types andspecifically the three starters
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Cinderace, Blaziken, andQuackoval
David Hernandez (35:18):
Well, OC, I want to close this interview
with the last question.
And since you love the firetype, I want to restrict you to
fire types only, If you had tomake a fire type Pokemon team
What six Pokemon would youchoose?
Out of Context Pokemon (35:31):
ah well definitely Cinderace is the lead
because speed and attack
David Hernandez (35:37):
Would you also use the G max form?
I assume.
Out of Context Pokemon (35:39):
yeah I love that one Incineroar,
because, you know, who wouldn'twant WolfieVGC on their team?
David Hernandez (35:48):
Wolfy, you guarantee you a win too.
Out of Context Pokemon (35:50):
Yeah! Who else?
Volcarona, because I find thatlittle moth funny looking.
Blaziken, because, you know, Inever leave any generations
without my original starter.
David Hernandez (36:02):
Hmm.
Okay.
Are you going to do mega?
Out of Context Pokemon (36:04):
And Mega too, yeah, because, you
David Hernandez (36:06):
So you can do the mega of bedzigan.
Okay.
Out of Context Pokemon (36:08):
They look cool, really cool, with
their mega evolution form.
Who else?
I guess for the fifth one itwould be Gouging fire because
I'm not sure if you've seen thisbut that little guy is a meme in
the VGC section The reason whyit's a meme because of a person
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named zova fire and they posteda clip of gouging fire sweeping
a team of six on its own exceptthe I guess the The, what's his
face here, the, the real joke ofthat clip was his name.
It's, practically named GayPorn.
David Hernandez (36:51):
Wait, what?
Out of Context Pokemon (36:53):
Yeah! Yeah, like, you know, like,
imagine your team being sweptwith no effort whatsoever by a
gouging fire named Gay Porn.
David Hernandez (37:03):
Oh, no
Out of Context Pokemon (37:04):
that's, that's not all.
It's also paired with a songthat goes like, He's bouncing on
my bootycheeks, I love it whenhe rides.
David Hernandez (37:17):
I'm dying here.
Oh my god.
Oh,
Out of Context Pokemon (37:19):
and yeah, last would be, actually
from Johto, Typhlosion.
Specifically, He's Human type.
David Hernandez (37:27):
Well, oh see thank you for coming on the
podcast if people want to checkout You know you on Twitter if
they want to contact you, wherecan they go?
By all means, please plug away
Out of Context Pokemon (37:35):
They can find me on Twitter, because I
refuse to call it as X.
Blue Sky.
And yeah, they can also find meon Twitch and, Discord Because I
have a Discord group It's on thelink tree if anyone wants to
join They're free to join
I am OutOfContextPokemon and this is
my Pokemon story.
David Hernandez (00:43):
welcome to As the Pokeball Turns, where we
interview people about theirexperience with Pokemon My name
is David Hernandez I'm joined byOutOfContextPokemon, here to
step out of the scenes ofTwitterverse And share the
Pokemon story.
Oh, Oh, see, welcome to thepodcast.
Out of Context Pokemon (01:01):
Ah, thank you, thank you.
Though, uh, I guess for, uh,simplicity's sake, you can refer
to me as Kazuhira.
David Hernandez (01:10):
So, you know, before we dive into things, for
those who don't know, you havean X or Twitter account that
posts Pokemon content that kindof mixes with like, I guess
we're world or maybe pastexperiences.
What made you kind of want tostart this content,
Out of Context Pokemon (01:26):
Well, funny story, actually.
I am, actually not the originalowner, but the original owner
themselves, which I'm not goingto name out of, you know,
privacy, they wanted out becausethey were so tired, or rather
they feel personally tired ofrunning the account and they
just wanted to give it away tosomeone who's willing to take
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over.
And Yeah, that would be me andmy co owner, Sammy.
David Hernandez (01:53):
since you took it over, did you have like a
connection with them at thetime?
And what made you kind of wantto step up into this role?
Out of Context Pokemon (02:00):
Well No, I did not have any connection,
but I was one of the people whomessaged out of, you know,
interest to keep the page alive.
And I guess what made me want tostep up with it is because
before that announcement wasmade, I was already running One
or two Pokemon Twitter pages atthe time, but as a moderator, I
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don't own them.
That would be Pokemon WorldTweets and Miju with Pokemon
Music.
David Hernandez (02:29):
Oh, that's awesome.
I didn't know you did that one.
Out of Context Pokemon (02:31):
Yeah, unfortunately the first,
unfortunately the first one gothacked last year, so, you know,
that's, that's pretty muchhistory.
David Hernandez (02:37):
No, I was going to say, it's kind of cool how
you kind of had differentavenues, I guess, to kind of
express the Pokemon interest.
Out of Context Pokemon (02:46):
Yeah, funny thing about that, cause it
used to have like, less than 2,000 followers, but by the time I
signed up to be a mod, well,look at it now, it's almost at
32, 000 followers, but yeah,tangent aside, yeah, I just
wanted to keep the page alive.
And, uh, I guess Sammy was the,you know, The original guy who
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was given the keys and then wehad the third guy coming with
us, which I'm not going to alsoname because, you know, they
want to be private, but therewere three of us.
We had a bit of a fumbling aboutbecause we were trying to, I
guess get a feel for what thecontent was.
And, uh, I guess after somepersonal disagreements with the
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original owner, me and Sammyjust took it upon ourselves to
run it on our own.
Uh, except, Sammy prefers to,you know, I guess stick as an
advisor of sorts.
And that gives me being thequote unquote main owner and
practically the public face ofthis page.
David Hernandez (03:53):
So we'll dive into more of the Twitter side of
things later, but I kind of wantto start like, When did you
first became interested in thisfranchise?
Where does it all start?
Out of Context Pokemon (04:02):
Huh, I guess even before I turned like
two years old I guess likebecause I was born at the time
when the anime series, theoriginal one, They, you know,
they released the 4Kids dub onour country's, broadcasting
scheduling.
And I still remember watching,the Indigo League on that, you
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know, one of those old TVs thosesquare ones that if you try to
carry you definitely have to becareful otherwise you'll, uh,
crush your fingers underneath.
Heh heh heh.
David Hernandez (04:38):
We call that a box TVs over here where I'm
from.
And they'd be like the one giantones where you'd be like
sometimes two or three people tocarry.
Out of Context Pokemon (04:46):
Yeah, that one.
It was a Japanese TV too, sodefinitely one of the top of the
line TVs at the time.
David Hernandez (04:53):
So you said you started an anime, so you were
watching Ash Ketchum trying togo through his journey with
Misty and Brock and goingthrough the Indigo League, I
assume,
Out of Context Pokemon (05:01):
Yes, I was there since the beginning,
so anyone who, anyone who daressay that I wasn't there since
the beginning, well, I can sendthem photos of, you know,
myself, or rather, my one yearold self watching the anime
series, like I have it here,actually, under my bed.
David Hernandez (05:20):
really?
You the old VHS tabs and stufflike that.
Out of Context Pokemon (05:24):
Nah, no photos.
We're, you know, I guess, youknow, you know, we're, know, you
know, you know our parents.
They, they always want to takephotos of us when we were kids.
Even when we're not doinganything.
So, yeah, one of those photos isme watching the TV and
apparently Ash is in that TV.
David Hernandez (05:43):
So for me, when I grew up, you know, they had
the Polaroids and the like onetime cameras or Kodak's.
Did you have those?
Or is it kind of more you had togo digital at that point?
Out of Context Pokemon (05:53):
No, no, it was still at the time when
Kodaks were still the, you know,the dominating force in, uh,
cameras.
David Hernandez (06:00):
that's what I remember because I would always
take photos because back in theday when selfies were becoming a
thing and my mom would get on tome, but like, why are you
wasting all this film takingselfies?
She didn't understand it, but Iwas using her Kodak camera to
try to take a selfie because Ididn't have a phone back then,
Out of Context Pokemon (06:17):
Yeah, but yeah, that's the very first,
uh, exposure to the series,which is funny because most of
the experiences that kids inAmerica have something to relate
to are the games, you know,Pokemon Red and Blue, but not
me, not me, not me.
You know, my parents neverentertained the idea of giving
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me a Gameboy since, well, I'mone year old.
I mean, who, who, who would evengive a one year old a Gameboy,
let alone a cartridge?
David Hernandez (06:48):
That's fair.
So, because, you know, youdidn't play with red and blue,
you're basically washing ashthrough his journey for the
longest time.
When did you kind of, I guess,dive into maybe the trading
cards or the video game side of
Out of Context Pokemon (06:59):
Well, I guess video game, it really all
started in 2003 with PokemonRuby, when it was still brand
new and the cartridge just costlike 30 bucks with the original
box and everything.
David Hernandez (07:15):
Oh, I miss those
Out of Context Pokemon (07:16):
Yeah, though it wasn't my copy.
It was my cousin's actually.
you know, because we, we alwaysdo these, family visits on
occasions.
And one of those occasions,they, you know, my cousins, they
came in with their flashy GameBoy Advance SPs at the time.
And you know back then if youowned a Gameboy Advance SP
you're practically a walkingrich kid.
David Hernandez (07:40):
Yep.
Out of Context Pokemon (07:43):
Yeah, so they asked me like, do you like
Pokemon?
You know, you want to try it?
And you know, being the,impressionable child I was, I,
I, you know, I tried it and Istill remember that my first,
partner is Torchic actually.
David Hernandez (08:01):
Hmm.
Okay.
Out of Context Pokemon (08:02):
Torchic, and I still have vivid memories
of them making fun of my othercousin for choosing Trico.
David Hernandez (08:12):
Oh, why'd they make fun of them?
Out of Context Pokemon (08:14):
I have no idea, but I'm going to take a
wild assumption that it'sbecause of its
David Hernandez (08:23):
Uh, that makes sense.
Yeah.
Out of Context Pokemon (08:25):
Yeah, but
David Hernandez (08:26):
types.
They always get the made fun ofall the
Out of Context Pokemon (08:28):
I know, right?
But that's with the games.
TCG, I am, well, super, superlate.
I have never collected TCGs inthose years.
So, I guess you can say that Imissed out on the real golden
age of trading cards for thePokemon series.
it all started in December 2021when I ordered, singles from a
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local shopping site.
One of those, cards was atrainer card of Hop.
And I guess, I just got draggedin, cause I really love the idea
of collecting cards and, myfirst set, real set, proper set
would be, uh, Sword and ShieldLost Origins.
And my very first, you know,what they call a hit or slash
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chase card is the Aerodactylactually.
and I only found out becausesomeone mentioned that I
practically, regained my onetime in quote unquote
investment.
Idiots.
David Hernandez (09:32):
Oh my gosh.
He's like, Oh, you made all yourmoney back from this arid
actopole.
Out of Context Pokemon (09:36):
Yeah, I mean, I had no idea at the time,
but I knew that, you know, itwas going to be a very
interesting hobby.
David Hernandez (09:45):
do you still collect the TCG nowadays?
Or is it kind of something youjust dabble in sometimes?
Out of Context Pokemon (09:50):
I recently went back actually.
In fact, I've been actively,publicly humiliating scalpers
left and right Cause, uh, youknow, they made it personal with
me when they, uh, flooded thesite when I was about to check
out one box.
Uh, yeah.
David Hernandez (10:08):
Oh, man, that's why I'm grateful that I'm not
that deep in the TCG right now,because that all would just ruin
it for me.
I think, you know,
Out of Context Pokemon (10:15):
Yeah, but thankfully I have, friends
and partners that I can rely onshould I really want a box or
two.
really, it's not a huge loss forme, unlike most people.
David Hernandez (10:29):
So, when you first started diving into the
video game silos, Rubin's halfwas your first game.
Were you still keeping up withthe anime at that point?
Like, were you just watching theanime like every day up to
access journey?
Out of Context Pokemon (10:38):
Mm hmm, yes, but I guess by the time
Black and White rolled out I,kind of stopped and diverged
from there because Funny story,because you you don't hear this
often but There was anotherseries competing for my
favorite.
That was Digimon
David Hernandez (10:56):
Oh, yes,
Out of Context Pokemon (10:58):
And you know, of course I loved it as
well in fact Jason Page's introis really iconic.
I still, still know the lyricsfrom heart.
But, if we're talking aboutendings, Digimon takes the cake.
especially the original endingfor Season 1, which is, uh, you
know, I Wish by Ai Maeda.
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Ah,
David Hernandez (11:20):
So going back to playing Ruby Pokemon, Ruby
and Sapphire, what do youremember most about playing
those first Pokemon games?
Did you feel like you were kindof living the anime world at
that point, or did you kind offeel like it was a different
adventure?
Out of Context Pokemon (11:31):
It was a totally different adventure.
And I guess the most memorablepart of the games really was the
music.
Yeah.
David Hernandez (11:40):
music that sticks out
Out of Context Pokemo (11:42):
Petalburg City.
David Hernandez (11:43):
Oh, yes.
Out of Context Pokemon (11:45):
that's one of the most memorable like,
themes for me in that game and,The Starting Town, I forgot its
name actually.
David Hernandez (11:53):
Uh, little Root
Out of Context Pokemon (11:54):
Little Road Town, yeah, that's forever
etched in my memory.
And, it wasn't, it was anentirely different experience
compared to watching the anime.
but, you know, but it's still asmemorable.
as it was when I first startedit.
David Hernandez (12:08):
for me.
The songs that stick to my head.
Is one for tree city.
Out of Context Pokemon (12:13):
Ah,
David Hernandez (12:15):
Yep.
I love that song the most.
And I always loved the secondone was the underwater theme.
Out of Context Pokemon (12:21):
the, what's his face, the dive team.
David Hernandez (12:24):
Yes, yes
Out of Context Pokemon (12:25):
Yeah, I mean, it's funny, unless you're,
I guess, IGN, which, you know,they're gonna stay away from it.
David Hernandez (12:32):
well IGN doesn't have good taste, but
that's me But I've always wantedlike the underwater theme as
like a lullaby because it's justso soothing I could literally
fall asleep to it.
That's how good it is for me.
So I play gen 1, but I'm a gen3, baby I love the gen 3 games
the music was one of the mostappealing parts besides the
whole world, of course
Out of Context Pokemon (12:51):
Oh yeah, I mean story wise and game
mechanics, it's really the musicthat sets it apart for me.
they never fail to, you know,amaze me with the music every
single time.
David Hernandez (13:02):
What did you think of the remakes?
You know, Omega Ruby and AlphaSapphire.
Did you get a chance toexperience those games?
Out of Context Pokemon (13:08):
Ah, unfortunately, I am one of those
people who have neverexperienced the 3DS era because
I was in college at the timeand, you know, being a, college
kid, I have no money.
David Hernandez (13:25):
Oh my gosh.
I mean, it's true though.
I mean, we're in college.
We're kind of broke.
So we don't really got the kindof money to put out for those
kind of games.
Out of Context Pokemon (13:31):
Yeah, but I was actively hearing about
talks of sun and moon around2016.
And, that's, uh, when it startedto up slowly but surely because
around the time Sword and Shieldwas announced, and I, I really
wanted it because, you know,they evolved from what I used to
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play in a Game Boy to theSwitch, it was really impressive
for me, so, you know, back thenI wasn't aware that behind the
scenes fans were actively, youknow, fighting each other over a
damn tree.
Yeah, it's pathetic, really.
Like, really, out of all thethings you could argue about.
Really?
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But, it took a while for me toget a Switch.
In fact, I guess it's meant tobe, because around January 2020,
I bought my first Switch.
And, funny enough, it's theSword and Shield Lite Edition.
David Hernandez (14:30):
Ooh.
You really dived into all ofsword and shield.
Like that really hooked you backin fully into Pokemon.
Out of Context Pokemon (14:37):
and I guess a few days later, my
friend gifted me a gift card tobasically buy shield and I guess
that's how it all started again.
David Hernandez (14:48):
Now I've got to ask you, cause you know, it's
two different legendaries.
Which did you prefer?
Did you prefer Zamazenta orZacian?
Out of Context Pokem (14:54):
Zamazenta.
David Hernandez (14:55):
Oh, the shield dog.
Hey, all right.
You're the only other personI've ever met who prefers
Zamazenta.
Out of Context Pokemon (15:01):
Yeah.
I made sure Zacian is useful forSingles and double battles, but
Zamazenta is my personal pickalways it just looks, you know,
it just Appeals to me really andA dog wearing a shield.
It looks funny to me
David Hernandez (15:19):
So you said, you know, you skipped out of all
of the 3ds era because you just,you know, broke college kid,
right?
What was it like to kind ofreturn to Pokemon's experience
sword and shield after your lastPokemon game before that?
Out of Context Pokemon (15:31):
Ah amazing it's like I guess it's
like jumping from the PS1 andimmediately to the PS4 or 3.
You know like everything aboutit was amazing and again as
always the music is what sets itapart for me.
David Hernandez (15:49):
was it kind of overwhelming to kind of be open
world to kind of see thegraphics and everything?
Out of Context Pokemon (15:53):
no, but it was definitely something that
I did not expect from Pokemon,cause It was linear when back in
the days, but you know for youto freely explore things and
unlock Routes as you go.
It was amazing I guess the onlything I didn't like was the
story because what's his facehere you do know solar power is
(16:15):
a thing, right?
David Hernandez (16:18):
Yes.
Yep.
Out of Context Pokemon (16:19):
Yeah
David Hernandez (16:20):
in the Pokemon world.
It already does exist.
It was ahead of its time.
Out of Context Pokemon (16:24):
Yeah, and, you know, this is more of a
personal vendetta than acriticism of the game, but I
vehemently hate the Sword andShield twins, Swordbert and
Shieldbert.
God, I hate them.
I hope they, I hope they dievery soon.
David Hernandez (16:41):
Damn.
He really does not like thesepeople.
Okay.
Out of Context Pokemon (16:44):
Like, you know, the moment they op
they started speaking, I just, Iwhen they start when they
started to open their mouth, Iwas like, oh my god, shut the
fuck up and die already!
David Hernandez (16:59):
Wow.
So they just annoyed you fromthe get go.
Out of Context Pokemon (17:02):
Yeah, like, before Sword and Shield,
the last character that did thisfor me was, uh, and I mean this
with no, you know, toxic intent,Sans, from Undertale.
Like, you know, like, not theboss battle, but, you know, just
simply his existence irritatesthe hell out of me.
But, you know, Swordbird andShieldbird were, you know, were
(17:25):
pretty much experts at this morethan sans.
So, yeah, they're, you know,they're still my, you know, my
most hated characters in prettymuch out of every franchise.
And, you know, I still hope Thatin in that world they die a
horrible and painful death
David Hernandez (17:43):
that's the third version where you get a
chance to torture him howeveryou want, okay?
It'll be Pokemon guillotine foryou.
Out of Context Pokemon (17:51):
Yeah but yeah, It really is a wonderful
experience to play shield whenall when all the games you
played on pokemon wasPractically just on a game boy
really so Personally, I feellike, you know, I mean, and I
mean no disrespect, but, I feellike Pokemon fans generally
(18:11):
just, come off as rude andungrateful, really.
David Hernandez (18:16):
In what way?
Out of Context Pokemon (18:17):
I guess, you know, like, like, sure, no
game is perfect, but toactively, nitpick every single
thing, and worst of all,harassing other fans for simply
loving the game.
It's just, you know, insanity,really.
David Hernandez (18:33):
I think that's kind of something more recent
for example, people nowadays,they want the voice acting.
They want a more grittier plot.
Pokemon's never been either ofthose things.
You know, the grittiest plot weever get is Pokemon Colosseum
back in GameCube days.
If you know, you know, and eventhen it's kind of tame.
And even, you know, voiceacting, I know that's huge, but
(18:54):
for me growing up, a lot ofpeople wanted the 3d graphics,
which we have now, people werelike, why are y'all still using
the bit graphics?
You know, Pokemon black andwhite was the last one where
they felt like, Oh, it's beyond,you know, they should have gone
to what we got that now themodels.
And for me, I look at it, I'mlike, I kind of missed the
graphics, but.
You know, I've been in Pokemon along time since day one.
So, well, not day one, but atleast, you know, early days,
Out of Context Pokemon (19:17):
Yeah, good, good, good, yeah, cause, I
guess I wasn't active in thecommunity until 2000 and late
2022.
So, you know, basically to startoff in 2023.
No, no, no, correction,correction.
It was late 2021 because by thetime March 2022 rolled out, I
(19:38):
already joined the World Tweetsaccount as a mod.
David Hernandez (19:42):
Oh my gosh.
I'm sorry.
That's where your sanity went.
Out of Context Pokemon (19:46):
So, you know, back then, I, uh,
witnessed a lot of dramaticstuff, especially when Scarlet
and Violet came out.
Yeah,
David Hernandez (19:56):
still like people for some reason, still
dog on those games.
I'm like, yo, yeah, there's somegraphical issues, but that
game's honestly on at least topfive, almost to me, maybe even
top two.
It's that high that I love thosegames.
But like you said, a lot ofpeople look more towards.
What they didn't do right thanwhat they did right, if that
makes sense.
Out of Context Pokemon (20:15):
yeah.
I guess the only weird decisionfor me that I still don't
understand to this day was, whyEd Sheeran?
Like, what's, what's, what's thereasoning, you know?
David Hernandez (20:25):
I thought he was, I thought he grew up a
Pokemon fan.
Out of Context Pokemon (20:27):
I mean, aside from that, like, you know,
on, uh, I guess I'm just tryingto understand, out of all the
things they could do, why EdSheeran, of all people, do a
credit song, cause it, I, I, youknow, like, yeah, I just
finished, you know, the AreaZero story, happy ending, and
then Ed Sheeran just pops up andlike, huh?
(20:48):
What's going on?
David Hernandez (20:51):
Hey, I'll tell you what, when I have Ed Sheeran
on the podcast, I'll ask himthat question for you.
If I ever, okay, I don't thinkI'll ever get him, but still,
you know, I can dream.
Who would you want though?
Who would you, if it wasn't forEd Sheeran, who would you have
wanted to sing a song instead?
Out of Context Pokemon (21:06):
Uh, well, he's dead now, but if he
was still alive, I guess MichaelJackson.
or if, we're talking aboutartists that are still active in
any way, Rick Astley.
because, you know, he has a veryrich voice that I think, Will do
well on a credit song like that
David Hernandez (22:14):
So, you know, you starting the Twitter
account, you took it over at thetime.
How has it been to kind of keepup with the content to kind of
put a tweet out for people tokind of enjoy?
Is it been challenging or has itbeen something that's kind of
easy for you to do?
Um,
Out of Context Pokemon (22:27):
It was challenging at first because I
guess you can equate this to adetective sifting through
folders of old cases.
It's like that, except I wasbrowsing through literal
hundreds and thousands ofpictures just to see which the
audience would like.
And I guess, slowly but surely,I started to branch out with
(22:48):
just remaining out of contextonly.
I mean, I've been posting, youknow, intro songs, archive stuff
like the very first Pokemoncommercial for the US, not the
Red and Blue but the anime.
And, with the blessing of theowner, Reposting stuff that we
edited for media with pokemonmusic Like you know, repost our
(23:10):
old edits as good morning slashgood night post.
Cause, you know, we want to,well rather, I wanted to, uh,
you know, start their day with,and end their day with a funny
video cause I, personallyspeaking, I wouldn't want to
start my morning on a very, verysour note.
as much as possible, I want totry and, Give the audience, or
(23:34):
anyone, visiting the page,really, something to look at
before their day starts slashends, really.
David Hernandez (23:41):
You basically want people who visit that pays
it's the first thing they seekind of bring cheers them up in
a way
Out of Context Pokemon (23:46):
Yeah, because, I guess a bit of
backstory about the page and theoriginal owner.
The original owner, based on myobservations, They love to argue
with people and not justspecific ones.
it could be anyone that theydon't like, especially.
So, you know, back then theywere basically breeding hate on
(24:10):
specific people.
No rather, any people really onthat platform.
Doesn't matter if you're IGN, anews company.
a transphobe person or simplythey just don't like you You
know, if you're on their side,you're very damn well expected
to show up on their profile andwith them making fun of you or
(24:31):
something and you know when Itook over and we parted ways on
a very sour note Basically, Itook it upon myself to rebrand
the page away from theiridentity and their past and
basically just turn it intosomething where anyone
regardless whether they followus or not and whether they're a
(24:53):
pokemon fan or not it is a pagewhere they can expect to see
stuff that will cheer them uprather than you know upset them
like what the previous owner did
David Hernandez (25:04):
What was the response once you decided to
shift, you know, away from abase?
It sounds like trolling orattacking people to be in, I
guess, more wholesome and tokind of make more engaging,
funny content.
Out of Context Pokemon (25:15):
Ah, well, there was a small group of
people me and sammy called theoomphies because
David Hernandez (25:24):
The old piece.
Out of Context Pokemon (25:25):
yeah because they were personally or
rather unintentionally sent outby the original owner against us
they were basically not happywith what we were trying to do
and
David Hernandez (25:37):
Oh, wow.
Out of Context Pokemon (25:38):
you know just took every opportunity
especially mistakes to like,criticize us or even downright
make fun of us But thankfullymajority of the people were like
shut the fuck up get out of here
David Hernandez (25:51):
Dang.
So the owner even was againstyou trying to rebrand it, even
though they gave it to you.
Out of Context Pokemon (25:56):
No, no like Like not against but like
they were actively making fun ofme and sammy even before we left
on a sour note like they thoughtthey're slick, but back then
when they still haven't blockedus, I was checking on their
profile from time to time andsometimes I'd see them co
tweeting one of our posts and,you know, just them making fun
(26:18):
of us for it.
so, you know, I'm really gladthat, they block us and, you
know, I block him, block himback because really.
those, those types of people inthe fandom are the ones that,
you know, ruins the community ina sense, because all they do is
nothing but breed discord and,you know, so chaos amongst
community members.
(26:38):
So, you know, for me to, youknow, practically erase every
single bit of their identity, itwas cathartic and I guess.
at the same time, I'm proud thatI practically turned it into a
page where anyone, regardless oftheir status and community can
feel welcome to and not fearbeing prejudiced.
David Hernandez (26:59):
Now you're in a situation to where you're kind
of a faceless content creator.
People don't really, you don'treally post your face at all.
What is it kind of like to beable to kind of observe the
community from that standpointto where you're posting stuff
and you kind of see, I guess thetalking heads around the
community around you.
Out of Context Pokemon (27:15):
It's very interesting'cause A lot of
people look up to the page.
In fact, where I live, monthsago, I found out that they
practically treat me like acelebrity here.
David Hernandez (27:27):
Really?
Out of Context Pokemon (27:28):
Yeah, I mean, there are artists that
personally knows who I really ambehind the scenes, but that's
because, I would visit their artstalls during conventions.
And after buying Pokemonstickers, keychains, you know,
anything really.
I would ask them to check theirDiscord for a special surprise,
and the last thing I would hearfrom them is, I guess, you know,
(27:49):
they're just gleeing with joy.
David Hernandez (27:51):
Oh, you make their day.
Out of Context Pokemon (27:53):
Yeah, that was the reason why I did
it, but, you know, on a grandscale, nah, I don't go around
saying, hey, I'm this guy, youknow.
Like, that's stupid really.
David Hernandez (28:03):
I was going about to ask you, like, if you
go out, tell people you'reactually OOC.
So you kind of keep it privatefrom who you are in the public
sector.
Out of Context Pokemon (28:10):
Yeah, but if it's with, you know,
friends that really knows me.
And, you know, artists, locallyspeaking.
Nah, I'm okay with them knowing,cause, I trust them.
David Hernandez (28:23):
I was wondering, so why wouldn't you
want that notoriety?
Because clearly, you know,you're a celebrity in your local
area.
Do you not want that attention?
I guess everywhere.
Out of Context Pokemon (28:33):
I guess it just feels weird, cause I'm
not used to such status or, youknow, affectionate feelings from
other people, because That'spretty much it, really.
I'm just not used to it, youknow, being treated like a
celebrity because uh, I just dowhat I do out what I love,
really, and I'm not doing thisfor fame Um,
David Hernandez (28:53):
I think that's so great because sometimes.
When people taste that kind ofstardom, I guess, or that
attention, it goes to their headand they start kind of believing
their own hype.
They start thinking they're allthat it's easy to get kind of
arrogant and overconfident, butthen for you, you don't care for
it.
You just want to enjoy Pokemonand kind of be a part of the
community as a whole.
Out of Context Pokemon (29:14):
yeah, I have to admit, I did use that
platform to try and get a leg upin the job sector.
Cause, you know, I've beenmanaging social media accounts
for years now so, to basicallytell the company I'm applying
for that, you know, I run thispage, they'll definitely be
impressed and possibly wouldwant to hire me but that's
(29:36):
pretty much it really.
David Hernandez (29:38):
we were talking about the social media side of
just.
Content creation in the earlier.
You said you had to kind of findout what your audience liked.
How did you go about doing thatcreating the content and finding
out people who follow you onTwitter or I'm sorry X liked
when it comes to what you donow.
Out of Context Pokemo (29:56):
basically observed as time passed by.
Oh, and I guess I did ask some,I did some polls, but that's,
those were more like community,focus in mind.
Like, what do you think is thebest game, best explorer, best
PMD game in existence and stufflike that.
And I guess from there, I justslowly caught on, on what they
(30:18):
really like, like, aside fromout of context images and
videos.
You know, I just started tonotice that they really like the
funny, the funny stuff more.
And, the wholesome stuff, like,I've noticed that even though it
didn't get many, even though itdidn't reach like a thousand
likes or so, I've noticed that,there is a group of people that
(30:39):
really enjoys, the morewholesome side of Pokemon, like,
say, Concierge, the Netflixseries.
as of recent, they're startingto like the more wholesome
content.
And, I guess, this is obvious,but, you know, seeing the
biggest, Pokemon fan slashgimmick page, publicly
(31:00):
humiliating scalpers left andright 24 7.
David Hernandez (31:04):
You kind of become the superhero in a way,
Out of Context Pokemon (31:06):
Yeah, I mean, I'm not afraid to, call
out bad actors within thecommunity as OOC.
In fact, let them come, andI'll, you know, and I'll have
the, and I'll have the newsready for them.
Um,
David Hernandez (31:19):
what response have you ever gotten any like
private messages of peoplethanking you for some of the
content you post?
Out of Context Pokemon (31:25):
yeah, the most memorable for me.
Was, when I was still startingout as the public face and lead
owner of OOC, like, I posted agoodnight post and it was the
full ending of platinum.
And you know, just out ofnowhere, a follower messaged the
page they were basically saying,thank you for posting that,
(31:47):
that, they always have a badtime and, you know, to see us or
see me posting the full endingand it appearing on their
timeline, it just, basically,you know, ended their day on a
much more positive note than itnormally is.
And you know, I still wonderwhat happened to that person to
(32:07):
this day.
Cause it was really heartwarmingto receive a message like that
back then.
And it still is to this day.
I don't receive much of itnowadays, but that's one of the
most memorable fan DMs that Iever got as OOC.
David Hernandez (32:20):
It reminds me of that cliche saying nowadays,
but still kind of true.
You never know what people arekind of battling and sometimes a
kind word or a kind gesture inthis case, maybe a funny post.
Can kind of change things forpeople.
Out of Context Pokemon (32:34):
Yeah, that's why, you know, I always
make it a point and focus tojust, do what I love while at
the same time give the audiencewhat they'd like to see or what
I believe they'd like to seeand, you know, get a laugh out
of it.
Really?
David Hernandez (32:50):
My last question, just in regards to
OOC, you have Porygon as kind ofthe logo.
Is that also the favoritePokemon
Out of Context Pokemon (32:58):
It's my favorite too, but when the owner
was still the owner, it was aPorgon Z.
You know, I reverted it back tothe Porgon 2 one.
it's funny, because it wasn'tsupposed to be shiny, but I
said, if we gained a millionfollowers again, I will change
this into a shiny and I stuckwith my word
David Hernandez (33:19):
And now you've got the shiny Porygon too.
Out of Context Pokemon (33:21):
Yeah, it really is and we contacted an
artist to commission a newprofile picture for us.
like aside from what I normallydo We also do our best to help,
artists who I believe should bepopular more than most people.
And I'm also partnered with alot of shops and so many,
(33:45):
wonderful people who, you know,who sells merchandise.
You know, like, a normal store,not those, idiots that sells
things at 300 percent above theMSRP.
the few ones that, uh, That hasbeen with us since the
beginning.
It will be Fun Lab and HobbyGenki.
(34:06):
And if it wasn't for them, thenwe would have never attracted
the attention of our, you know,now existing partnerships with
other shops and people.
David Hernandez (34:18):
so you said Porygon2 is your favorite.
What is it about Porygon2 thatmade it solidified your
favorite?
Was it like a moment or was itjust something about it?
Out of Context Pokemon (34:26):
It's one of my favorites, I guess it's
because, you know, there's tworeasons.
One is because, you know, whywould you hate that little guy?
It looks cute.
David Hernandez (34:36):
True, true.
Out of Context Pokemon (34:37):
And the other is, uh, it was a VGC
moment when I was still activelyparticipating in Sword and
Shield Online Battles.
There was this Porgon2 that washolding some sort of item,
Eviolite if I'm correct.
David Hernandez (34:52):
Yes.
Out of Context Pokemon (34:52):
You know, it was, you know, I was
trying my best to like, youknow, knock it out, but it just,
stood it on its own two feet.
And I guess it really justdefined who Porgon2 is for me
aside from being cute.
And I guess the real star of thefavorites would be, you know
mainly fire types andspecifically the three starters
(35:15):
Cinderace, Blaziken, andQuackoval
David Hernandez (35:18):
Well, OC, I want to close this interview
with the last question.
And since you love the firetype, I want to restrict you to
fire types only, If you had tomake a fire type Pokemon team
What six Pokemon would youchoose?
Out of Context Pokemon (35:31):
ah well definitely Cinderace is the lead
because speed and attack
David Hernandez (35:37):
Would you also use the G max form?
I assume.
Out of Context Pokemon (35:39):
yeah I love that one Incineroar,
because, you know, who wouldn'twant WolfieVGC on their team?
David Hernandez (35:48):
Wolfy, you guarantee you a win too.
Out of Context Pokemon (35:50):
Yeah! Who else?
Volcarona, because I find thatlittle moth funny looking.
Blaziken, because, you know, Inever leave any generations
without my original starter.
David Hernandez (36:02):
Hmm.
Okay.
Are you going to do mega?
Out of Context Pokemon (36:04):
And Mega too, yeah, because, you
David Hernandez (36:06):
So you can do the mega of bedzigan.
Okay.
Out of Context Pokemon (36:08):
They look cool, really cool, with
their mega evolution form.
Who else?
I guess for the fifth one itwould be Gouging fire because
I'm not sure if you've seen thisbut that little guy is a meme in
the VGC section The reason whyit's a meme because of a person
(36:31):
named zova fire and they posteda clip of gouging fire sweeping
a team of six on its own exceptthe I guess the The, what's his
face here, the, the real joke ofthat clip was his name.
It's, practically named GayPorn.
David Hernandez (36:51):
Wait, what?
Out of Context Pokemon (36:53):
Yeah! Yeah, like, you know, like,
imagine your team being sweptwith no effort whatsoever by a
gouging fire named Gay Porn.
David Hernandez (37:03):
Oh, no
Out of Context Pokemon (37:04):
that's, that's not all.
It's also paired with a songthat goes like, He's bouncing on
my bootycheeks, I love it whenhe rides.
David Hernandez (37:17):
I'm dying here.
Oh my god.
Oh,
Out of Context Pokemon (37:19):
and yeah, last would be, actually
from Johto, Typhlosion.
Specifically, He's Human type.
David Hernandez (37:27):
Well, oh see thank you for coming on the
podcast if people want to checkout You know you on Twitter if
they want to contact you, wherecan they go?
By all means, please plug away
Out of Context Pokemon (37:35):
They can find me on Twitter, because I
refuse to call it as X.
Blue Sky.
And yeah, they can also find meon Twitch and, Discord Because I
have a Discord group It's on thelink tree if anyone wants to
join They're free to join
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